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No one talks about how Reyna had 4 charges of her devour and dismiss. At this point it almost feels like it never happened and I'm gaslighting myself LMAO
The problem with viper was never that she was op or broken but the fact that she had no competition , no other agent was able to do what she was doing , she had no replacement .
@@schwerzeli well it does lol. Removing 1 snake bite already and decreasing smoke time a lot has already made it hell to play viper in ranked and add onto that the orb pickup and the agent is almost useless except on her main maps on breeze and icebox. Used to be a viper main for a long time but all of these nerfs stacked up has made it extremely difficult to play viper when you can even play brim who would provide better value right now in ranked.
@@Kat-y_L Actually no, if Viper has a competitor it needs to be an agent who has similar stall capabilities and can apply pressure on attack as she does. The problem is, if there is ever such an agent, everyone in pro play would pick both of them. Think about it, why wouldn't you want 2 Vipers on your team? If 2 agents like Viper were on a team, the attacking team would never break through your defenses and it would be busted af I don't know about ranked, everyone there is just braindead and every team comp ends up being Iso, Chamber, Clove, Jett Reyna or maybe a Gekko if u're lucky. But the problem it would create in pro play is insane
@@zeckex564 playing 2 vipers would be invalid cause viper is controller . She has the ability to lockdown one site like kj or cypher but that's not her main goal . In a map where dome smokes are needed , she'd be played for her stall abilities and another for smokes , why would they pick two agents with stall abilities who are controllers and not sentinels ? I was talking purely based on her smokes , two controller meta was already a thing where people picked viper with omen or astra or brim . In a larger map where wall smokes are primary necessity people have no choice but to go for viper because she can provide for stall as well as her wall . Harbor is too weak to be considered as competition for her .
Killjoy before there was a range limit to her turret and alarm bot, together with them being up when she died just like Cypher trips at the time. Literally unless you dedicated a smoke for it, you weren't flanking a team with a KJ turret
Riot is unironically so very terrible at understanding what makes an agent weak or strong in either ranked or pro play, which is why they keep missing with their balancing so often
Pro Play and Ranked are so fundamentally different that it‘s extremely hard to balance an agents abilitys for both simultaneously. They do try to not make a agent power creep by only buffing them slightly. However their reworks tend to overtune all the time
schwerzeli is right. Also keep in mind that a one-dimensional meta would be boring. I agree that they made an oopsie with keeping Astra, Viper and Chamber so dominant for so long but it made for some of the coolest metas IMO
@@troua2001Reyna they are goated in ranked but sucks in pro play. Or in the video kanga mentioned astra, who at her peak was crazy in pro play but was just average in ranked.
Thank you for pointing out the stuff regarding Astra's cooldowns. It was insane to me that when Riot announced that she was getting her 5th star back, people were worried that we would enter another period of Astra dominance, when in fact, that almost certainly won't be happening due to the nerfed cooldowns and suck. People also tend to forget that Omen used to just be terrible at the time, with a very delayed smoke travel time and slower TPs. Also maybe you just didn't want to ramble for too long so I totally get it, but it would've been worth mentioning the phase where she could sell her star to buy a stinger on pistol round.
I've played this game since you had to watch twitch streams and get lucky with a drop to play, and seeing how everything has changed overtime, and now getting a blast to the past, is definitely an amazing experience.
No one didn’t use viper until Early of 2021 or late 2020 when nAts pioneered Viper and Cypher with their underwhelming Util. Everyone followed nAts when he introduced to the world with his lurking skills and his gameplay about lurking and flanking in anyway. Viper is still considered as a must pick agent with cypher until the new map change on Sunset. I believe Cypher’s pick rate will go down or up depending on the effects on the new change.
I started playing when Jett meta was still ongoing and I didn't have any other agent other than the default agents because I didn't know how to unlock agents atm so I always picked Jett as I liked her design the most and my friends would get mad at me when I instalock her even though I play badly lmao
You forgot about how OP Sage was. The wall was infinite hp, the slows lasted so long and covered more area, you could heal yourself and your teammates to full health no matter what as well as the cool down for the heal being a lot shorter. And the rez was less orbs. The old Sage and old Raze on the old Split was legit a nightmare and still gives me the chills today…
A cool game mode in Valorant will be "Go back in Time" where like we can play as these broken characters again like a swift play or something . That will be cool and nostalgic for many players.
omen, clove and brimstone exist so unless you're at high level no one wants to play astra. i used to main her but after the cooldown nerfs she wasn't worth it
@@nostalgiatrip7331 yeah omen clove and brim need no brain to play anyway, except for omen you need to think where to TP and blind. And Astra on other hands needs many many imp decisions
You’re forgetting how busted Sage was. Being able to walk across the map, a full heal for yourself or someone else, and a revive made her a must pick on every team in ranked for a long time.
The ares accuracy was the best as someome like me who uses ares and odin a lot, I dont have good aim like most fps players im not good at one tapping with phantom, guardian, vandal or even using snipers thats why I use ares and odin and just spray. That meta was so op that a lot of player used it so much
If something like double nade raze is included, ehy not after death killjoy or cypher killcam? Every sentinel till deadlock had an ability that completely broke the game at least pre release. Like remember where sage revive had 7 ult points and her wall was super cheap? The times where everyone wanted to pick sage for grim walls and bug abuse with things like omen tp. Maybe unrelated but what about the times right after yoru rework?
I say we petition for RIOT to add a game mode where every agent is a version of their strongest self. Jett with 3 smokes of 7 seconds, insta dash, Right click Ult refresh Raze with 2 nades and 75 damage satchels Chamber with 2 TPs and 2 Trips Astra with 5 smokes Viper, and everybody else
I feel like seeing as how they've promised buffs to 3 agents (sage, harbor, phoenix), and nerfs to 2 (gekko, cypher), i think we might see another duelist meta in phoenix because he's been weak for so long and valorant never seems to know what will be broken when it gets released and i think phoenix has alot of potential buffs, possibly rework. We could also go back to a sage meta in her being broken again, possibly stronger wall, have her old heal back, slow orb buffs who knows. Harbor, idk what you'd really do with him, shorter cooldowns? idk. Deadlock could also be a potential meta agent, she's seeing hardly any play but her wr% is really high overall, i think it's the second highest? with clove having the highest wr% (in all ranks, for both of them), but deadlock isn't seeing play because she's misunderstood ig, I'm a dl main personally, and i think she's broken tbh, but i think that anyone else who plays her doesn't really understand what to do and i think valorant will take that as her being bad and buff her to an extreme. I mainly think this because she's had 2 really solid buffs already and her pr still hasn't budged, i think really small buffs would put her into the meta but i don't think valorant see's those sorts of things because i don't think they'd understand a deadlock mains pov, but to anyone else who wants buffs out of her who doesn't main her, i think the main want from her is to have a passive trip, i believe this would make her busted, better than peak chamber even. Mainly, i think a phoenix, sage or deadlock meta may come soon, because they're so bad atm and valorant never knows when to stop with the buffs or nerfs, like how they just destroyed skye from being the best initiator, how they destroyed astra to where she's the worst if not second worst seeing as harbor still sucks, and with what happened with peak chamber where he stayed meta for way too long with no changes because he was so op on release they didn't know what to do with him. And i think that if they buff deadlock, phoenix or sage into meta defining agents then they'll be too afraid to nerf them because they don't want them back in the position they're in rn.
I mostly agree with you; you make excellent points and I think you're right about Phoenix/Sage, but i do think Astra is really strong atm. I myself am an Astra main and have been playing her ever since I started playing the game. I admit that it was harder to play Astra during the time where she had 4 stars, but right now, with her five stars, she's really good. I think she suffers from the same thing you mentioned with Deadlock, where Astra just suffers from bad pr and people don't seem to realise how easy it is to get value with her kit. I could be very wrong tho, as my experience is heavily biased by the fact that I usually play with two, sometimes even four other people, which makes comboing a ton easier.
@@larryschutter the biggest problem with Astra imo is that she thrives in an organized setting, particularly when you have insight into how the enemy team likes to play, so the gap between her effectiveness in pro play vs soloQ is astronomical. You can have a really well thought out plan, but then your duelist will run in and die before your stun goes off then proceed to not listen to you again for the rest of the match
Buffs takes 1000hr of play time which is like a 2 whole year you will start earning money by the time you get 1000vp from buff So worth a try but dont hope
God remember when you could sell the free astra star and get a primary weapon in pistol round? I know this is about meta and not bugs but that was so funny
I feel like the Ares could stand to be a bit better? I don't think I've seen people use the Ares in a long time, preferring the spectre instead. I would like to see the Ares cost 1,500 or 1,400.
5:09 i disagree. The double updrafts provided a unique ability, and giving it back would make her a lot more fun to watch. Also, it wouldn't make her OP since she's overshadowed by Raze and Neon right now.
It was mainly a problem cause you could double updraft with knives and get a free kill at the beginning of a round from wacko angles and people would combo it with sage walls to get to broken angles where Jett could op. Every map had an angle you could get to with a double updraft or updraft wall combo and the angles were like all the ones you see being found on abyss. I was not fun to play against, the only ones who liked the double updraft were Jett mains.
Jett then: 3 cloudbursts with 7s each, 2 updrafts, dash without any activation timer, knives' refresh after right click kill Jett players then: Instalock Jett Jett now: 2 cloudbursts with only 2.5s each, 1 updraft, dash with activation time, right click kill doesn't refresh knives Jett players now: Instalock Jett
The main reason I believe is the way players play Jett. Cloudbursts, numbers getting reduced only has caused players to use those a bit wisely, but you don't lose something really essential. The reduced duration of cloudbursts doesn't take away any impact again if you always used those like escape/entry smokes to block enemy vision. If you used Jett as a duelist and not a controller cloudbursts Nerf don't actually feel like a Nerf. If you talk about the updrafts, yes I'd say that it was what made Jett really broken by giving her the reach to some unexpected cheesy spots and angles. Double updraft kills were something which actually was an unfair advantage over other agents. Hence, this Nerf doesn't harm Jett at the least. Now, about the dash, if you used Jett wisely you would know what are the situations where you might need to activate your dash. It was also a broken thing about Jett which allowed players to be casual since they knew they could get out of a rather impossible angle to escape easily. So it's also not a big Nerf. Use the dash more wisely! Finally right click knives, again, if you have good aim you may not need right click at all, but ofc in too close range you can right click. So use it as a last resort instead of spamming right click in combination with dash (to get in a sufficiently closer range). The only unfair Nerf I think is the 8 point ult instead of 7. I mean yes it's a real big Nerf to motivate players to not instalock Jett, but it is already ingrained in us Jett players, whatever Nerf you put or however unplayable you make her, we are still gonna instalock her ;)
Bruh Since Val came to console it has a bigger audience and i got to say some of this are just hilarious to me. Raze two nades is just insane 😂. And let's not forget Sage got nerfed to the ground
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No one talks about how Reyna had 4 charges of her devour and dismiss. At this point it almost feels like it never happened and I'm gaslighting myself LMAO
made her ult even less useful lol
I always think about how busted reynas abilities looked with all the slots 😂😂😂
I think the Skye Meta was really important in 2023 as well. Probably should have talked about that as well.
Riot deleted Viper from ranked without ever tackling what makes her strong in pro play
The Orb Pickup denial is a big Pro play Nerf but doesnt really affect Ranked as heavily
The problem with viper was never that she was op or broken but the fact that she had no competition , no other agent was able to do what she was doing , she had no replacement .
@@schwerzeli well it does lol. Removing 1 snake bite already and decreasing smoke time a lot has already made it hell to play viper in ranked and add onto that the orb pickup and the agent is almost useless except on her main maps on breeze and icebox. Used to be a viper main for a long time but all of these nerfs stacked up has made it extremely difficult to play viper when you can even play brim who would provide better value right now in ranked.
@@Kat-y_L Actually no, if Viper has a competitor it needs to be an agent who has similar stall capabilities and can apply pressure on attack as she does. The problem is, if there is ever such an agent, everyone in pro play would pick both of them. Think about it, why wouldn't you want 2 Vipers on your team? If 2 agents like Viper were on a team, the attacking team would never break through your defenses and it would be busted af
I don't know about ranked, everyone there is just braindead and every team comp ends up being Iso, Chamber, Clove, Jett Reyna or maybe a Gekko if u're lucky. But the problem it would create in pro play is insane
@@zeckex564 playing 2 vipers would be invalid cause viper is controller . She has the ability to lockdown one site like kj or cypher but that's not her main goal . In a map where dome smokes are needed , she'd be played for her stall abilities and another for smokes , why would they pick two agents with stall abilities who are controllers and not sentinels ? I was talking purely based on her smokes , two controller meta was already a thing where people picked viper with omen or astra or brim . In a larger map where wall smokes are primary necessity people have no choice but to go for viper because she can provide for stall as well as her wall . Harbor is too weak to be considered as competition for her .
I still remember playing Raze when u just have to double satchel on corner to kill somebody, i've tried that before and it's freaking OP.
Wow i wasn't expecting this kind of video from you! Unexpected but very welcome!
Glad you think so!
SAME
Kanga this content is amazing bro
Chamber nerf was the most heart breakin tbh
Killjoy before there was a range limit to her turret and alarm bot, together with them being up when she died just like Cypher trips at the time. Literally unless you dedicated a smoke for it, you weren't flanking a team with a KJ turret
Riot is unironically so very terrible at understanding what makes an agent weak or strong in either ranked or pro play, which is why they keep missing with their balancing so often
Pro Play and Ranked are so fundamentally different that it‘s extremely hard to balance an agents abilitys for both simultaneously.
They do try to not make a agent power creep by only buffing them slightly. However their reworks tend to overtune all the time
schwerzeli is right. Also keep in mind that a one-dimensional meta would be boring. I agree that they made an oopsie with keeping Astra, Viper and Chamber so dominant for so long but it made for some of the coolest metas IMO
@@schwerzeli can u provide and example of an agent thats hard to balance for pro n ranked?
@@troua2001Reyna they are goated in ranked but sucks in pro play. Or in the video kanga mentioned astra, who at her peak was crazy in pro play but was just average in ranked.
@@kingofthecort9578 ty
Reyna’s 4 orbs as well
Very cool video. I’m new to Val so I only lived thru iso meta lol. But the sound of his shield coming up still gives me ptsd lol
really appreciating the time stamps!
Another thing you missed about early Beta Viper is that you couldn't put her wall down through the walls of the map which was so dumb LMAO
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How so?
No it’s not I got 1000 vp from it idk what you mean
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@@the_gamerboy9208Also curious how long it took
Facts
BRO WHERE IS SKYE META
Skye forgotten as always.
skye was meta but never broken
omen is probably the most OP agent in the game right now but no one cares
@@axtra9561omen is not the best at all lol infact astra is better
@@davedaved8442 omen is the only agent that can one way on anything
@@axtra9561how is omen op
You forgot beta cypher when the camera could shoot
It was just a glitch
Thank you for pointing out the stuff regarding Astra's cooldowns. It was insane to me that when Riot announced that she was getting her 5th star back, people were worried that we would enter another period of Astra dominance, when in fact, that almost certainly won't be happening due to the nerfed cooldowns and suck. People also tend to forget that Omen used to just be terrible at the time, with a very delayed smoke travel time and slower TPs.
Also maybe you just didn't want to ramble for too long so I totally get it, but it would've been worth mentioning the phase where she could sell her star to buy a stinger on pistol round.
Always the best info thank you ❤
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I've played this game since you had to watch twitch streams and get lucky with a drop to play, and seeing how everything has changed overtime, and now getting a blast to the past, is definitely an amazing experience.
I know it was small, but Reyna Release deserves an honorable mention and def began the discussion of "Rank vs. Pro Balance".
it is good to have nostaligia like this, do you remember when cypher's cages did slow the enemies ?
No one didn’t use viper until Early of 2021 or late 2020 when nAts pioneered Viper and Cypher with their underwhelming Util. Everyone followed nAts when he introduced to the world with his lurking skills and his gameplay about lurking and flanking in anyway. Viper is still considered as a must pick agent with cypher until the new map change on Sunset. I believe Cypher’s pick rate will go down or up depending on the effects on the new change.
I started playing when Jett meta was still ongoing and I didn't have any other agent other than the default agents because I didn't know how to unlock agents atm so I always picked Jett as I liked her design the most and my friends would get mad at me when I instalock her even though I play badly lmao
I’m not sure if this counts as a meta, but the short period where cypher can had a gun was crazy op
You forgot about how OP Sage was. The wall was infinite hp, the slows lasted so long and covered more area, you could heal yourself and your teammates to full health no matter what as well as the cool down for the heal being a lot shorter. And the rez was less orbs. The old Sage and old Raze on the old Split was legit a nightmare and still gives me the chills today…
No astra marshal on first round
She could sell one of her free stars
Heyy Kanga!! Riot mentioned you in patch 9.06!! 😦🥳
A cool game mode in Valorant will be "Go back in Time" where like we can play as these broken characters again like a swift play or something . That will be cool and nostalgic for many players.
Astra got her 5 stars back but i never see her in any match
omen, clove and brimstone exist so unless you're at high level no one wants to play astra. i used to main her but after the cooldown nerfs she wasn't worth it
@@nostalgiatrip7331 yeah omen clove and brim need no brain to play anyway, except for omen you need to think where to TP and blind. And Astra on other hands needs many many imp decisions
Finally someone who mentioned the frenzy light shield on pistol
They should really give iso his kill reset back he is too weak now
Chamber was absolutely disgusting on Brind back when he had 2 TPs... His TPs was op on Split and any maps where the sites are near each other.
You’re forgetting how busted Sage was. Being able to walk across the map, a full heal for yourself or someone else, and a revive made her a must pick on every team in ranked for a long time.
I loved the stinger back then, me and my friend would just play entire games with a stinger because it was fun to us
u forgot the double sentinel meta
Killjoy and cypher every game, and their utilities would not deactivate even after they die. It was hell
The ares accuracy was the best as someome like me who uses ares and odin a lot, I dont have good aim like most fps players im not good at one tapping with phantom, guardian, vandal or even using snipers thats why I use ares and odin and just spray. That meta was so op that a lot of player used it so much
Hey mate! You forgot to include Reyna. Back then, she had 4 charges to either heal or dismiss and now, she only has two.
If something like double nade raze is included, ehy not after death killjoy or cypher killcam? Every sentinel till deadlock had an ability that completely broke the game at least pre release. Like remember where sage revive had 7 ult points and her wall was super cheap? The times where everyone wanted to pick sage for grim walls and bug abuse with things like omen tp.
Maybe unrelated but what about the times right after yoru rework?
If I remember correctly, there is a time that astra can sell the star and get credit and could buy a marshal at the first round
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I say we petition for RIOT to add a game mode where every agent is a version of their strongest self.
Jett with 3 smokes of 7 seconds, insta dash, Right click Ult refresh
Raze with 2 nades and 75 damage satchels
Chamber with 2 TPs and 2 Trips
Astra with 5 smokes
Viper, and everybody else
i love these long video
never knew old bucky was csgo nova that hit headshot on long range with exception in cs that it sometimes shit on close range.
Chamber also could kill on leg shot with his ult
I feel like seeing as how they've promised buffs to 3 agents (sage, harbor, phoenix), and nerfs to 2 (gekko, cypher), i think we might see another duelist meta in phoenix because he's been weak for so long and valorant never seems to know what will be broken when it gets released and i think phoenix has alot of potential buffs, possibly rework. We could also go back to a sage meta in her being broken again, possibly stronger wall, have her old heal back, slow orb buffs who knows. Harbor, idk what you'd really do with him, shorter cooldowns? idk. Deadlock could also be a potential meta agent, she's seeing hardly any play but her wr% is really high overall, i think it's the second highest? with clove having the highest wr% (in all ranks, for both of them), but deadlock isn't seeing play because she's misunderstood ig, I'm a dl main personally, and i think she's broken tbh, but i think that anyone else who plays her doesn't really understand what to do and i think valorant will take that as her being bad and buff her to an extreme. I mainly think this because she's had 2 really solid buffs already and her pr still hasn't budged, i think really small buffs would put her into the meta but i don't think valorant see's those sorts of things because i don't think they'd understand a deadlock mains pov, but to anyone else who wants buffs out of her who doesn't main her, i think the main want from her is to have a passive trip, i believe this would make her busted, better than peak chamber even.
Mainly, i think a phoenix, sage or deadlock meta may come soon, because they're so bad atm and valorant never knows when to stop with the buffs or nerfs, like how they just destroyed skye from being the best initiator, how they destroyed astra to where she's the worst if not second worst seeing as harbor still sucks, and with what happened with peak chamber where he stayed meta for way too long with no changes because he was so op on release they didn't know what to do with him. And i think that if they buff deadlock, phoenix or sage into meta defining agents then they'll be too afraid to nerf them because they don't want them back in the position they're in rn.
Holy yap
I mostly agree with you; you make excellent points and I think you're right about Phoenix/Sage, but i do think Astra is really strong atm. I myself am an Astra main and have been playing her ever since I started playing the game. I admit that it was harder to play Astra during the time where she had 4 stars, but right now, with her five stars, she's really good. I think she suffers from the same thing you mentioned with Deadlock, where Astra just suffers from bad pr and people don't seem to realise how easy it is to get value with her kit. I could be very wrong tho, as my experience is heavily biased by the fact that I usually play with two, sometimes even four other people, which makes comboing a ton easier.
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@@larryschutter the biggest problem with Astra imo is that she thrives in an organized setting, particularly when you have insight into how the enemy team likes to play, so the gap between her effectiveness in pro play vs soloQ is astronomical. You can have a really well thought out plan, but then your duelist will run in and die before your stun goes off then proceed to not listen to you again for the rest of the match
@@Ivan4o205frr no one ordered a yapchino
skye meta was crazy
Buffs takes 1000hr of play time which is like a 2 whole year you will start earning money by the time you get 1000vp from buff
So worth a try but dont hope
Can't believe we didn't see the cypher camera using guns meta. :(
God remember when you could sell the free astra star and get a primary weapon in pistol round? I know this is about meta and not bugs but that was so funny
They nerfed all of the fun agents. The only metas I considered bad for the game were Chamber, ISO and stinger. Everything else was fun.
yo Sage and Reyna in the early days were not broken in the pros meta but in the rankeds they were a nightmare
3:44 TEACH ME HOW TO DO IT
it was patched ages ago
@@Duckguy08 It looked fire :(
Cypher camera with a gun like wtf💀
How you MISS THAT
unrelated note but go to career and click the dropdown, are we getting a bunch of new game modes soon?
I feel like the Ares could stand to be a bit better? I don't think I've seen people use the Ares in a long time, preferring the spectre instead. I would like to see the Ares cost 1,500 or 1,400.
reyna orbs was insane
slightly surprised you didnt mention skye with how much she got played
I cant believe you did not include sage, the true broken agent.
I really think the prime reyna meta was the strongest. FOUR ORBS. that means a team wipe and you can orb for every kill
5:09 i disagree. The double updrafts provided a unique ability, and giving it back would make her a lot more fun to watch. Also, it wouldn't make her OP since she's overshadowed by Raze and Neon right now.
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It was mainly a problem cause you could double updraft with knives and get a free kill at the beginning of a round from wacko angles and people would combo it with sage walls to get to broken angles where Jett could op. Every map had an angle you could get to with a double updraft or updraft wall combo and the angles were like all the ones you see being found on abyss. I was not fun to play against, the only ones who liked the double updraft were Jett mains.
great video
Breach Triple flash isn't in the meta but it gives you a higher chance of knife kill.
I saw this and thought Chamber 2nd trip is coming back😭
skipping reyna having 4+ charges on her stuff i forget how many was a while ago
Hey bruh kanga when are we getting the valorant mobile???😢
ISO right now is super under powered
not talking about reyna and skye is insane
how about the phantom having same dmg with vandal, or the bulldog quicksce meta
Remember when kj turret and alarm bot had no range.
ISO and chamber seem oppressive until you look at oh Jett and raze lol
I still believe Chamber needs two tp's if he can't teleport from point A to B he will never be a solid character.
Cyper cam with pistol era
you can still get kill reset with iso double tap on console i hate it and idk why its still a thing
Ok but considering every agent best patch, what would be the best team overall?
I'd go with astra, viper, chamber, raze and jett just out of pure brokeness. Possibly switch raze/jett for peak skye/sova
What about phantom with almost 0 recoil, you could run and shoot all bullet straight
Neon too is pretty strong now no?
my favorite meta to ddate is still chamber beta
nailed it
When you talk about chamber just say he was Nerf I don't want to hear those harsh words
Bro forgot the most overpowered util reyna's 4 soul orb healing her after every kill
Reyna literally had 4 heals at one point that gave back 100hp each time
The only thing missing is gun cam and omen paranoia
No way u didn't mention skye with 3 flashes
you forgot the broken neon we have rn
Jett then: 3 cloudbursts with 7s each, 2 updrafts, dash without any activation timer, knives' refresh after right click kill
Jett players then: Instalock Jett
Jett now: 2 cloudbursts with only 2.5s each, 1 updraft, dash with activation time, right click kill doesn't refresh knives
Jett players now: Instalock Jett
The main reason I believe is the way players play Jett. Cloudbursts, numbers getting reduced only has caused players to use those a bit wisely, but you don't lose something really essential. The reduced duration of cloudbursts doesn't take away any impact again if you always used those like escape/entry smokes to block enemy vision. If you used Jett as a duelist and not a controller cloudbursts Nerf don't actually feel like a Nerf.
If you talk about the updrafts, yes I'd say that it was what made Jett really broken by giving her the reach to some unexpected cheesy spots and angles. Double updraft kills were something which actually was an unfair advantage over other agents. Hence, this Nerf doesn't harm Jett at the least.
Now, about the dash, if you used Jett wisely you would know what are the situations where you might need to activate your dash. It was also a broken thing about Jett which allowed players to be casual since they knew they could get out of a rather impossible angle to escape easily. So it's also not a big Nerf. Use the dash more wisely!
Finally right click knives, again, if you have good aim you may not need right click at all, but ofc in too close range you can right click. So use it as a last resort instead of spamming right click in combination with dash (to get in a sufficiently closer range).
The only unfair Nerf I think is the 8 point ult instead of 7. I mean yes it's a real big Nerf to motivate players to not instalock Jett, but it is already ingrained in us Jett players, whatever Nerf you put or however unplayable you make her, we are still gonna instalock her ;)
you forgot about cypher cam meta 😭
im miss when bucky can 1 shoot right click
when are we getting a knife meta
Where's the killjoy post death nano?
Iso meta still here, not playing valorant untill they nerf his shield.
riot really doesnt know how to balance agents all they really do is nerf an agent if its picked too much by pro players
Bruh Since Val came to console it has a bigger audience and i got to say some of this are just hilarious to me. Raze two nades is just insane 😂. And let's not forget Sage got nerfed to the ground
Idk man, cypher meta for the past few months has been pretty boring
Old photos of agents were gold lol
I peaked Dia 3 during chamber meta haha
Only original chambers know that the 2 tp were sigma
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Let it run in background crypto mining ahh moment
i know shes broken but just let me play prime jett one more time it was so fun