Lou, This was one of the best lectures I have ever watched on you tube. You didn't waste time with fluffy bull shit. You got striaight to the point, and showed exactly how measuring natural gas in "water column" units is done. Very Precise, well done & a very accurate presentation that I greatly appreciated and now fully understand why natural gas is not measured in PSI.You DID NOT DO what 90% of people on UA-cam do during tuturials, you DID NOT WASTE my time! VERY WELL DONE LOU, GREAT JOB.
I am a New York City, Department of Education plumber I've been in the business since 1985. I went through various schools of Plumbing instruction over the years. But, the concept of water column was only mentioned and not explained. In studying for a supervisory promotional exam, I noticed a question about gas pressure and inches of water column. I decided to get further instruction. Your video made it so simple to grasp. You took a scientific concept and made it visual both in word and practice. Please keep with these beautiful videos we need fine instructors like you
Been a general/remodel contractor, albeit one who always defers to the HVAC people to know their trade (my own business since 2007, years in the trades before then,) but I can finally grasp the basic idea of the water column measurement. Very helpful. Thanks.
Louis - I have absolutely no reservations or Pride issues in admitting that I am a New Jersey Licensed Master Plumber who...NOW understands Water Column Value as it relates to Gas Pressure just a little bit better than I did a moment ago because of YOUR very clear, succinct, simplistic and easy to understand tutorial. Better still, just as Richard Le commented below, the Bucket Illustration was instrumental in solidifying that understanding. I consider better and thorough Understanding to be Empowering and I fully plan to employ your Visual Aid myself moving forward when trying to inform and enlighten others. As someone who himself strives for clear concise communication always, You Sir ARE, in my humble opinion, an Excellent Instructor and I hope that you will continue to contribute and share your Experience. Thank You.
i agree with you i am retired HVAC tech and had forgotten about all of this and wanted to clear it up for myself and this helped me like it did to you LOL ,,,,,,keep on learning even an old dog in this case 65 can learn new tricks .
Thank you! What you show is so simple and obvious. This method beats the stars out of fooling around making a manometer with a board and tubing. Simply feed your barbecue hose into a bucket of fresh water until it quits bubbling, and measure. No high tech meter can compete for accuracy and no calibration required.
The problem with this method is the surface tension of water might make it less acurate. A little bit of soap will give you an even more accurate reading. Not that it matters
You nailed it. Thanks a bunch. That’s what I needed to see. I can figure the rest out for sure. I’ll use a clear water bottle and the gas line. Perfect
excellent excellent explaination. no unnecessary chit chat didn't go on any irrelevant stupid tangents stuck to the point and covered all bases for a basic explaination
I have worked as a natural gas service man for 38 years and we have always delivered 7'' wc to the customers house piping unless they have a 2lb system which has 2nd stage regulators installed on the house piping to reduce pressure to 7'' wc
ABSOLUTELY THE BEST explanation of WC I have ever seen! Made perfect sense. I AM impressed......btw....love the accent! hehe Thanks for your great work on this vid!
That's great! Thank you for your knowledge. I'm smarter than I was six minutes ago. Lou, you mentioned a house may have as little as 5" of WC coming into a house. So if my furnace is taking 3.5" I guess there would only be 1.5" left for other things like a hot water heater, stove, or gas dryer correct?
No, that is wrong. If the pipes are sized correctly, the regulator can deliver 6" WC to all appliances simultaneously while operating. The piping system needs to be sized to allow all gas appliances to function at the same time. If the piping system is undersized, you may have issues. This is why it is essential to hire a Licensed Gas Fitter to install any gas appliances being added to (or replaced in) an existing system so that he/she can ensure the system is properly sized for ALL of the new and existing appliances.
I did some research on line and measured my pressures. - From SoCalGas "Once inside the dwelling unit, a line regulator reduces the natural gas pressure to the traditional 8-inch WC." (US, California) *8-inch WC/.29 psi - "American Meter AC-250, 250 cubic feet/hr., differential pressure .5-inch WC." *7.5-inch WC/.27 psi after meter. Mine measures 7.5-inch WC/.27 psi, which means the input to the meter is 8-inch WC. (US, Michigan) - ICC IFGC 2012, the standard for designing pipe sizing, shows sizing the piping for a maximum of .5-inch WC loss at the appliance connection during operation. *7-inch WC/.252 psi at the appliance regulators while operating. - "Natural gas pressures in the building gas piping between the gas meter and the appliance regulator is typically about 7.5 to 8" wc (about 0.27-0.29 psi) and needs to be at least 0.25 psi to meet the standard appliance regulator minimum to insure unimpaired appliance output." *Which means I must size the piping in compliance with the ICC IFGC piping standard minimums or larger to achieve the minimum pressure required at appliance regulators. We've both proven a lot of equipment will run at less than standard pressures but the only way we can absolve ourselves and transfer the blame to utility is to design for the standard.
Hi Louis - I am designing a Bio Gas Digester (BGD) - it is 1.25 mtr x 1.25 mtr x 2.00 mtr - with a 4 sided pyramid apex measuring 25cm from the top line to the peak - A BGD produces methane gas and 'humus' - I don't know how to calculate what the gas pressure would be inside that tank given those calculations - any ideas ?- PS - thanks for the video -
You cannot tell what the gas pressure would be given some fixed sized container. That’s like me asking you I have a Gatorade bottle that’s empty and the tops on it. What’s the pressure inside? It can’t be determined with that information.
I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure as you use gas, any pressure drop will be compensated for by your regulator, you shouldn't get much any of a drop for your other appliances from the furnace.
One of my business partners recently lost everything due to a house fire. I have attached the link to a go-fund me page to help with the cost of repairs and everything that was lost because it was a total-loss. If everyone chipped in anything they could, it would be greatly appreciated! Here is the link: gofund.me/a31f7e45
And that why this country should get away from using the English system and get with the rest of the World & use the Metric System! (1/8 of a PSI give me a break, you people must love fractions!) mm of wc or mbar is easier to work with!
Thanks, man you made it so simple. All of the other people that are like scientists don’t know how to explain it as simple as you did
Lou, This was one of the best lectures I have ever watched on you tube. You didn't waste time with fluffy bull shit. You got striaight to the point, and showed exactly how measuring natural gas in "water column" units is done. Very Precise, well done & a very accurate presentation that I greatly appreciated and now fully understand why natural gas is not measured in PSI.You DID NOT DO what 90% of people on UA-cam do during tuturials, you DID NOT WASTE my time! VERY WELL DONE LOU, GREAT JOB.
I am a New York City, Department of Education plumber I've been in the business since 1985. I went through various schools of Plumbing instruction over the years. But, the concept of water column was only mentioned and not explained. In studying for a supervisory promotional exam, I noticed a question about gas pressure and inches of water column. I decided to get further instruction. Your video made it so simple to grasp. You took a scientific concept and made it visual both in word and practice. Please keep with these beautiful videos we need fine instructors like you
Great vid.
Simple.
No jargon.
No extraneous BS.
The bucket and hose thing is just brilliant.
Thank you.
Been a general/remodel contractor, albeit one who always defers to the HVAC people to know their trade (my own business since 2007, years in the trades before then,) but I can finally grasp the basic idea of the water column measurement. Very helpful. Thanks.
Louis -
I have absolutely no reservations or Pride issues in admitting that I am a New Jersey Licensed Master Plumber who...NOW understands Water Column Value as it relates to Gas Pressure just a little bit better than I did a moment ago because of YOUR very clear, succinct, simplistic and easy to understand tutorial. Better still, just as Richard Le commented below, the Bucket Illustration was instrumental in solidifying that understanding. I consider better and thorough Understanding to be Empowering and I fully plan to employ your Visual Aid myself moving forward when trying to inform and enlighten others.
As someone who himself strives for clear concise communication always, You Sir ARE, in my humble opinion, an Excellent Instructor and I hope that you will continue to contribute and share your Experience.
Thank You.
i agree with you i am retired HVAC tech and had forgotten about all of this and wanted to clear it up for myself and this helped me like it did to you LOL ,,,,,,keep on learning even an old dog in this case 65 can learn new tricks .
It's great when a guy can explain things so we can understand. Thanks so much.
Well done. You should be teaching our children, and me. I'm 80 and still dumb.
Great teacher very easy to understand..Thank you so much for making this video.
Awesome explanation before I go to school for my gas ticket.
Great simple & quick explanation of Water Column. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
the bucket example is a fantastic way of physically looking at the pressure units. thank you, Louis.
Thank you so much for take time to make this video. I wish you were my instructor when I did my g3…. God bless you…
Plain English, simple mechanics and excellent examples. Well done, and thank you!
Excellent Video Sir. I am glad you took the time to explain this. I know a lot more now than I did 5 Minutes ago.
I found this very helpful! I'm a process operator in a refinery and we have huge heaters that have shutdown limits that are measured by water column.
Great explanation! Thank you, Lou! 🇨🇦👍😀
Thank you! What you show is so simple and obvious. This method beats the stars out of fooling around making a manometer with a board and tubing. Simply feed your barbecue hose into a bucket of fresh water until it quits bubbling, and measure. No high tech meter can compete for accuracy and no calibration required.
The problem with this method is the surface tension of water might make it less acurate. A little bit of soap will give you an even more accurate reading. Not that it matters
You nailed it. Thanks a bunch. That’s what I needed to see. I can figure the rest out for sure. I’ll use a clear water bottle and the gas line. Perfect
Thank you very much! You have a good talent to explain/teach.
Thanks, I was doing some reading and didn't understand what was being said until I saw your video!
Thank you , a simple video solved some hard to read book problems
The only video you need to watch to fully understand water column.
excellent excellent explaination. no unnecessary chit chat didn't go on any irrelevant stupid tangents stuck to the point and covered all bases for a basic explaination
Thanks for the explanation better than my apprenticeship coach gave me cheers
Very informative, Thanks for sharing.
I have worked as a natural gas service man for 38 years and we have always delivered 7'' wc to the customers house piping unless they have a 2lb system which has 2nd stage regulators installed on the house piping to reduce pressure to 7'' wc
Does water baseboards require a circulating pump and another hot water tank in this system
What a fantastic explanation, Thank you Sir
Found this when learning automotive evap system testing. Really helped!
Thank you for the time to explain that. I understand it much better now. I appreciate it have a good day
love how he explains everything simply
Excellent explanation and example, many thanks
Thank you, I now know what water columns means and how to measure!
Do we have an adapter to connect a manometer to check bowel gas?
Very well explained and understandable. Thank you very much
Amazing explanation
ABSOLUTELY THE BEST explanation of WC I have ever seen! Made perfect sense. I AM impressed......btw....love the accent! hehe Thanks for your great work on this vid!
you are a great teacher. love the vids
thanks...what do u think of the reg round meter.....as good as water meter or not.../.bob
Great explanation
That's great! Thank you for your knowledge. I'm smarter than I was six minutes ago. Lou, you mentioned a house may have as little as 5" of WC coming into a house. So if my furnace is taking 3.5" I guess there would only be 1.5" left for other things like a hot water heater, stove, or gas dryer correct?
No, that is wrong. If the pipes are sized correctly, the regulator can deliver 6" WC to all appliances simultaneously while operating. The piping system needs to be sized to allow all gas appliances to function at the same time. If the piping system is undersized, you may have issues. This is why it is essential to hire a Licensed Gas Fitter to install any gas appliances being added to (or replaced in) an existing system so that he/she can ensure the system is properly sized for ALL of the new and existing appliances.
Very helpful explanation. Thank you, Sir!
Excellent explanation, Thanks Louis!
Thanks for the video lou
Great explanation! Thanks!
Excellent video, thank you!!!
Great video - really good explanation. Thanks!
thanks a lot ,,,,,now i understand its less then 1 psig ,,,,,,wow took me long to find this LOL ,,,,,,thanks for sharing
Great video. Very informative.
Good teacher
Louis You are the MAN! Thanx a lot.
Great Job
I did some research on line and measured my pressures.
- From SoCalGas "Once inside the dwelling unit, a line regulator reduces the natural gas pressure to the traditional 8-inch WC." (US, California)
*8-inch WC/.29 psi
- "American Meter AC-250, 250 cubic feet/hr., differential pressure .5-inch WC."
*7.5-inch WC/.27 psi after meter. Mine measures 7.5-inch WC/.27 psi, which means the input to the meter is 8-inch WC. (US, Michigan)
- ICC IFGC 2012, the standard for designing pipe sizing, shows sizing the piping for a maximum of .5-inch WC loss at the appliance connection during operation.
*7-inch WC/.252 psi at the appliance regulators while operating.
- "Natural gas pressures in the building gas piping between the gas meter and the appliance regulator is typically about 7.5 to 8" wc (about 0.27-0.29 psi) and needs to be at least 0.25 psi to meet the standard appliance regulator minimum to insure unimpaired appliance output."
*Which means I must size the piping in compliance with the ICC IFGC piping standard minimums or larger to achieve the minimum pressure required at appliance regulators.
We've both proven a lot of equipment will run at less than standard pressures but the only way we can absolve ourselves and transfer the blame to utility is to design for the standard.
Thank You For Your Clear Explanation!
Very nice! Thank you
Straight to the point... thanks
Hi Louis - I am designing a Bio Gas Digester (BGD) - it is 1.25 mtr x 1.25 mtr x 2.00 mtr - with a 4 sided pyramid apex measuring 25cm from the top line to the peak - A BGD produces methane gas and 'humus' - I don't know how to calculate what the gas pressure would be inside that tank given those calculations - any ideas ?- PS - thanks for the video -
You cannot tell what the gas pressure would be given some fixed sized container. That’s like me asking you I have a Gatorade bottle that’s empty and the tops on it. What’s the pressure inside? It can’t be determined with that information.
In south and central,eastern Pennsylvania we see 7” normally
Nice job thank you
In metric they would use millibar??
8.6 mb is 1/8 of 1 Psi.
Simple but i understood the point(s).
Dat accent doe.
Thank you for the video.
Excellent; I now understand. thank you.
I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure as you use gas, any pressure drop will be compensated for by your regulator, you shouldn't get much any of a drop for your other appliances from the furnace.
I finally get it after other videos watched
Thanks for the explanation.
god bless you Louis, great videos
One of my business partners recently lost everything due to a house fire. I have attached the link to a go-fund me page to help with the cost of repairs and everything that was lost because it was a total-loss. If everyone chipped in anything they could, it would be greatly appreciated! Here is the link:
gofund.me/a31f7e45
Now I understand.thanks
A million thank you
Writes Col... uh... fuck it.
Thanks!
Excellent!
Thank you
Thanks so much!
Turn on every gas appliance in your house, then do the test, To get a accurate reading .. The gas companies will do it for free....
Thank you sir.
column..(sp) sorry man.. great description though on a almost unknown subject.
I got your bubbles right here
That's interesting... So the diameter of the column makes no difference...
1 psi =27.6799048425 inch wc or roughly 28 inch wc :)
Perfect
"Column" is spelled with an "N". You are measuring the height of a column of water, not a "colum."
Does it really matter since he wasn't doing a spelling bee??
+Kim Neu
mann
+Gary Kolb
LOL
Yes, it matters. If he had actually explained anything about the column of water and why it is used to measure pressures under 1 PS|I.
no
And that why this country should get away from using the English system and get with the rest of the World & use the Metric System! (1/8 of a PSI give me a break, you people must love fractions!) mm of wc or mbar is easier to work with!
Thank You Sir.