How SAFE are Locomotives?

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  • How safe are the locomotives that pull North American freight trains? Well, as you might imagine, they're pretty tough!
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  • @daviskelley8611
    @daviskelley8611 Рік тому +49

    i’m a conductor for Union Pacific. crossing accidents sadly happen more than you think. usually depending on what you hit, repairs can be made. you definitely wanna duck though. and in some cases bail out or get to the second motor if you have it. also fun fact while passing other crews, out of curtesy we turn our ditch lights off

    • @stanpatterson5033
      @stanpatterson5033 Рік тому +11

      Most crews deactivate the ditch lights, and dim the headlights for oncoming traffic. The exception would be if they are meeting at a crossing. In some places where expressways run parallel to rails, some crews will dim down their lighting to avoid blinding the motorists. That maneuver is discretionary, depending on the situation.

    • @opiumextract2934
      @opiumextract2934 Рік тому +3

      Hello fellow UP conductor (im on the GCSU)

    • @benjlar1902
      @benjlar1902 Рік тому +1

      @@stanpatterson5033 deactivate? its just a knob you turn its not that deep lol

    • @swervingto
      @swervingto Рік тому +4

      Courtesy during the daytime and forgetting to turn the ditch lights on and headlights on bright is a good way to find yourself in a decertification event

    • @RailsofForney
      @RailsofForney 7 місяців тому

      I’m a teenager considering working for the railroad, so that’s some neat stuff to know there. Thanks for the share!

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 Рік тому +156

    Crashes and/or Derailments are a Daily Occurrence ALL over the US. RJ Corman, Hulcher and a few Other Restoration Companies can’t keep up with the Work.

    • @Train_Master_4014
      @Train_Master_4014 Рік тому +8

      Yep

    • @ATJonzie
      @ATJonzie Рік тому +14

      Not hard to believe with the shear amount of trains across the United States

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m Рік тому +25

      @@ATJonzie Also, the insane amount of people that try to beat the trains at the crossings. As we know, in the age old battle of car vs. train, the train always wins.

    • @sharonfieber6458
      @sharonfieber6458 Рік тому +5

      Derailment with dangerous goods makes the news! Trains hitting véhicules at level cross with fatalité.
      Train crew two fear collision fuel truck, school bus. School bus, crew wish they died also!

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 Рік тому +1

      Never happens here in San Diego because the only type of trains are stupid commuter trains lol

  • @ayayaybamba3445
    @ayayaybamba3445 Рік тому +136

    I learned the other day that the attempt at shooting the cutoff valve wasn't something made up for the movie, it was actually something tried during the "Crazy 8s" run away incident that the movie is based on.

    • @pavelslama5543
      @pavelslama5543 Рік тому +8

      yep, but they totally forgot that this button is supposed to be pressed for a long time, and not just pushed by a buckshot, or birdshot, or whatever they tried.

    • @Unknown_Ooh
      @Unknown_Ooh Рік тому +7

      @@pavelslama5543 Kind of dumb if you think about it. If that's your only option to stop a moving train do you really have time to press and hold the button?

    • @thatguyfrombandcamp
      @thatguyfrombandcamp Рік тому +7

      The button is a normally closed circuit and damaging the button will open the circuit and activate the safety feature, I found that out when I hit a fallen tree and it ripped the button off my locomotive

    • @unitytwins6652
      @unitytwins6652 Рік тому +4

      @@Unknown_OohNot totally, I mean it would be better in the end to probably have the button in the cab but it’s mainly to shut off the fuel pump for the diesel which only generates the electric for the traction motors that actually pull these units. This is mainly only in for protection for shutting down a runaway Diesel engine not the train itself.

    • @ryandavis7593
      @ryandavis7593 Рік тому +2

      @@pavelslama5543
      Actually it doesn’t. I am a locomotive master electrician and can say with certainty that a properly working EFCO should kill the locomotive immediately. If they actually get shot with a bullet they will shatter as they are made of plastic and brass.
      The EFCO works on the normally closed button switch. There are usually three but some locomotives have more. Rio Grande GP30s for instance. The EFCO supplies power from the local control breaker in series, x3, to the fuel prime engine start switch and an interlock on the fuel pump control relay. The FP/ES switch bypasses the FPCR interlock to pick up the coil on FPCR. When the FPCR coil is energized it connects the interlock creating a self locking situation. Any interruption at the EFCO buttons will shut the FPCR down.
      When FPCR drops out another interlock picks up D Valve in the govenor to cause the fuel rack to disengage. (On engines equipped with EFI it does the same electronically.)
      It will also cut power to the ENGINE RUN RELAY, cutting power to all other valves in the govenor.
      The problem with crazy eights is that the officers shot the fuel cap that is located just below the EFCO which was a bigger target and also painted red. It was an honest mistake.

  • @jerrysinclair3771
    @jerrysinclair3771 Рік тому +70

    I have been a railfan for many years, yet still learned a lot from this informative video. Thanks

  • @AnonOmis1000
    @AnonOmis1000 Рік тому +56

    The thing is, in the Crazy 8s incident Unstoppable was inspired by, they did shoot at the train in an attempt to hit the emergency shut off.

    • @Whitebassonly
      @Whitebassonly Рік тому +2

      Really not a bad idea. Blow an air line or the compressor tanks to send it into emergency or let the brakes lock up as they loose air.

    • @AnonOmis1000
      @AnonOmis1000 Рік тому +8

      @@Whitebassonly the air breaks weren't hooked up since it was just a yard move.

    • @mattrodgers4878
      @mattrodgers4878 Рік тому +3

      After watching that movie, I had to do some reading on the event that inspired the movie. I kinda shocked me to learn that they did attempt to shut down the train by shooting the fuel cutoff.
      My question, why not just shoot a bunch of holes in the fuel tanks? Granted, probably not the most environmentally friendly solution, but given the choice of the damaged caused by derailment I would prefer the fuel cleanup.
      Shoot a bunch of holes in the fuel tanks, the engines will shut down eventually.
      I know NOTHING about railroading, so maybe this is a stupid idea to those who do understand locomotives. Am I overlooking something?

    • @SpheroJr3289
      @SpheroJr3289 Рік тому +4

      @@mattrodgers4878 Shooting the fuel tank can actually cause an explosion, so that will become a problem. Plus, attempting to shoot the fuel cutoff was futile as the button actually needed to be held down.

    • @mattrodgers4878
      @mattrodgers4878 Рік тому +6

      @@SpheroJr3289 diesel fuel isn’t nearly as flammable as gasoline. You could toss a lighted match into a bucket of diesel fuel and the match will go out.

  • @jamiesuejeffery
    @jamiesuejeffery Рік тому +38

    A long time ago now, we lived in an apartment in Ohio that was less than 100 yards away from a main ConRail line and about the same to the crossing. This track would have 6-8 coal trains on it daily (12-14 if you count the return). I never saw the engineers, but I could certainly tell who was driving by how they blew the horns.

  • @CorpusChristiHouston
    @CorpusChristiHouston Рік тому +29

    Southern Pacific had a MARS headlight that rotated-oscillated. It appeared to “flash” and really caught your attention. It had many moving parts and was discontinued due to maintenance cost. The bean counters killed it

    • @robertgift
      @robertgift Рік тому +2

      I don't blame them. It should have just swept right and left. Much simpler mechanism.

    • @jordan6988
      @jordan6988 Рік тому +1

      The wig wag module is a much easier design and probably more practical you can find them everywhere. Old cop cars are the most common lol

    • @HoosierDaddy_
      @HoosierDaddy_ Рік тому +1

      Those old Mars type locomotive lights really do get your attention. We have a rural train that runs occasionally and it's very hard to tell the distance on the runs that only have regular headlights on.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 Рік тому +2

      RRs now use ditch lights which are far brighter, closer to the ground and have the ability to flash. Far more visible than Mars/Gyralights of the past.

  • @treinenliefde
    @treinenliefde Рік тому +104

    I've always found the American way of safety for trains really interesting. The large wide noses, the horns and various lights and bells. I think it would be interesting (maybe I'll look into that) for survival rare /injury comparisons between American and mainland European locomotives in crashes. European locomotives do not blow their horns at crossings (except for rail enthousiasts haha) and I doubt their windows are actually bulletproof. Our trucks are also smaller and probably weaker, so maybe things like that could be a factor why European trains have less noticeable safety systems and procedures?

    • @detroitdieselseries5071
      @detroitdieselseries5071 Рік тому +6

      Not to mention European railways do Not need PSR at all

    • @WNWMusic
      @WNWMusic Рік тому +19

      A lot of the times it's also idiots thinking they outrun a train, and cross as fast as possible. Which normally doesn't work as you can see.

    • @Ty-qx1ui
      @Ty-qx1ui Рік тому +34

      I think its mostly due to how long American trains are, costing drivers upwards of 10 minutes at the crossing so people are more likely to jump the gates. Lots of urban areas have quiet zones where trains do not blow their horns because of increased safety measures at crossings, but many rural crossings lack a gate or even flashing lights which is why many of our trains have the features you mentioned.

    • @bnsflover7062
      @bnsflover7062 Рік тому +21

      @@Ty-qx1ui not only that American locomotives Every since the 1900s Were always HEAVlY and MASSIVE for average height of main line locomotives were 15-16 ft tall, I tell you they are Massive compared to British and eoupern locomotives put them on British Rail lines or eoupern these heavyweight locomotives on those rail line and they will cause those rails to Sink in the ground that's Why Railroads in this country is more expanded and Can carry More loads than any other country.

    • @Ty-qx1ui
      @Ty-qx1ui Рік тому +2

      @@bnsflover7062 Thats very interesting! I never considered that

  • @eclipz4129
    @eclipz4129 Рік тому +22

    The exact reasons I love American locomotives! Nothing against other countries at all but I just love the way they look, sound, the way they operate and everything about our American locos much more.

    • @redpsycho90
      @redpsycho90 Рік тому +7

      Negative part is they can’t quickly change direction. This isn’t big problem with America’s long hauls but here in Europe we often change direction of the train. And a turntable would take too much time to turn the locomotive around.
      Americans locomotives are very efficient for American routes, but would be pretty useless here, and probably other way would be same. We also have smaller sidings, so having your huge strong locomotives would cost us a wagon length less cargo. But because our trains are shorter we also don’t need so many locomotives.
      I love both locomotives each their speciality.

    • @einar8019
      @einar8019 Рік тому +4

      Imagine not using electrified mainlines in 2022

    • @mbrproductions160
      @mbrproductions160 Рік тому +4

      @@einar8019 Electrification is a waste of money that we don’t need. Even Europeans are sick of paying to maintain all that catenary and are starting to look at battery and hydrogen locomotives as alternatives.

    • @mbrproductions160
      @mbrproductions160 Рік тому

      @@redpsycho90 that’s exactly how I feel too!

    • @redpsycho90
      @redpsycho90 Рік тому +2

      Not really, most countries are pushing to increase the amount of catenary lines. Reason for hydrogen and battery in cargo trains is for “last-mile” from main junction to the connecting customers. At our company we have some customers that only receive 2 trains per day. And no junctions close to it. So in these cases a hybrid or battery style locomotive would be great. Just before the switch towards the customer change over to battery or diesel.
      Personally I prefer driving our electric locomotives because they are much stronger then the diesels of same size (and quiet). For me no annoying fuel stops and for company no expensive fuel stops.
      Also maintenance wise are electric locomotives less needy resulting in more driving time and less chancing oil time. For infrastructure company they can ask more money for electric time schedule. Comparing the electric timeschedule prices vs diesel fuel usage in our company electric is still cheaper. Even now with the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
      Last reason why I prefer my electric locomotives is that I can do regeneration braking. Then I send electricity back on the line for another locomotive to use. In (most) diesel locomotives we don’t have any engine braking so the energy is lost in heat.
      But I don’t want to be the private company needing to pay electrification of the HUGE distances of Americans railway system. So I can understand your choices

  • @proudfoamer2
    @proudfoamer2 Рік тому +5

    That bnsf unit will be rebuilt after the insurance dept. Finish their investigation. And railroad terms, if the frame ain't bent it can be rebuilt.

    • @AbelG8781
      @AbelG8781 Рік тому +1

      That engine will return in no time. There was a UP SD70M that was demolished not long ago by run away cars at a yard north of me in Palestine TX. You should've seen it in person, whole back half was absolutely shredded to pieces. I watched it get scrapped on site. Of course they took important stuff of it.

  • @hakeemsd70m
    @hakeemsd70m Рік тому +18

    Excellent video, very educational. I learned quite a bit. Overall, I think the North American Safety Cab has been a success in saving crew lives. I never knew about the anticlimber, neat stuff. Keep up the great work.

  • @shashikantsingh6555
    @shashikantsingh6555 Рік тому +5

    Wow.. i always wondered where the bell sound is coming... Thanks... Great video🔥👌

  • @wfvideos4099
    @wfvideos4099 Рік тому +6

    The first locomotive is definitely repairable. It takes a crazy amount of damage to total a loco.

  • @ditchpatcher
    @ditchpatcher Рік тому +11

    I forgot about alerters, I think that would be good to talk about how it evolved from a deadmans pedal to a button. Note NS used a whisker as an alerter at least on their older units like a gp38-2

  • @fluxthelycanroc9603
    @fluxthelycanroc9603 Рік тому +7

    Y'know since I got into the business recently ngl derailments and such are alot more common than I'm lead to believe. But this videos made me feel a bit safer about the job

  • @-HDK-
    @-HDK- Рік тому +2

    Fumes from a ripe shitter filling the cab. If we don't address it, it'll never change.

  • @paulkoza8652
    @paulkoza8652 Рік тому +5

    I think your premise about safety is BS. The only reason Class I railroads have adopted these minimal safety standards is because they have gotten sued enough times by dead or maimed crew members families as to make it economically feasible to install them. The goal of freight railroads is to make money, and if crew safety gets in the way, then so be it, until it starts eroding into their profits. These measures are not about concern for their employees, otherwise they would have taken these steps long before now. Railroading is a dangerous, dirty, hard work. The upcoming contract negotiations reflect this, and rightfully so. I hope that the rail operating union membership get what they believe to be relief from oppressive operating rules, otherwise, I wish them will in the upcoming strike.

    • @bnsflover7062
      @bnsflover7062 Рік тому +2

      Maybe If THE HUMAN mind Would Try to cooperate And evebody would know how to operate Things To prevent anything from happening unless its Technology Problems than Nobody would get sued for anything

    • @yacaattwood2421
      @yacaattwood2421 Рік тому +1

      Agreed!
      I lived in Southern California, and commuted to work on Metrolink ( Southern California Commuter Rail). After a fatal accident in Chatsworth in 2008, Metrolink was among the first, possibly the first to institute Positive Train Control (PTC), a system to automatically stop a train under certain conditions, such as an engineer failing to stop at a signal
      As a commuter, PTC often stopped Metrolink trains between stations for no reason. There had to be integration with signals, changes in schedules and coordination with other railroads (BNSF, Union Pacific, Amtrak) whose trains operated along with Metrolink in parts
      PTC was very frustrating for railroad workers and commuters alike.
      As for railroads asymptotically caring about employees - talk to anyone whose ever been on an Extra Board…

  • @therealunklefreaky
    @therealunklefreaky Рік тому +7

    My 10 year old grand nephew and I just LOVE your videos! Thanks and be safe!

  • @kyleburns5772
    @kyleburns5772 Рік тому +3

    That first one is easily fixable. It’s also not unusual for railroads to rebuild a locomotive that was in a major accident and put it back into service with new numbers.

  • @nstrainfanyt
    @nstrainfanyt Рік тому +6

    Only accident I've ever seen was the Hiram Derailment. Had no idea about it till a person at Austell told me. All 3 units are at Juniata shops now. Speaking ofwhich, if you didn't know, NS 8099 is currently awaiting repairs at the Juniata shops in Altoona.

  • @amessman
    @amessman Рік тому +5

    Those comfort cab photos are fantastic!
    Cool to see CSX 9800 too, just caught that here in Michigan.

  • @ryanfrogz
    @ryanfrogz Рік тому +5

    The windows are no joke. Engineer friend of mine got shot at once, scared the crap outta the crew but the windows had no trouble stopping the bullets.

    • @tonyburzio4107
      @tonyburzio4107 Рік тому +1

      Cabooses also had to get bullet proof glass, which is why many cabooses had the windows plated over, cheaper than bullet proof glass.

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 Рік тому +5

    0:44 I'm pretty sure the locomotive is gonna be repaired, BNSF once repaired all but one unit from Kismet and repaired a locomotive that was involved in an accident in Cactus Texas that looked like a write off. The H2 paint probably won't survive but I hope the H2 paint survives.

    • @everettrailfan
      @everettrailfan Рік тому +1

      H2 is honestly the worst livery, but I guess it does add a bit of extra color. I really don't care as long as it's not a pre-production ES44AC, those things at least have some significance.

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 Рік тому +3

    Locomotives are Bigger and Much Safer than the vast Majority of Vehicles they Crush. 👍

  • @kevinamsteam7816
    @kevinamsteam7816 Рік тому +5

    There is a crossing near me that the crossing guard has the train horn in it. It sounds like a computer instead of a train horn but when the crossing arms drop, the horn starts sounding off until the front engine passes the roadway. It sounds weird and electronical, but I guess it works. The train horns are a LOT louder.

    • @devernepersonal3636
      @devernepersonal3636 Рік тому +5

      they call that a wayside horn, ten times more annoying then just letting a train do it.

  • @ebolduc4150
    @ebolduc4150 Рік тому +4

    6:47 mechanical problems can still occur to have the headlights not be on, in Canada the following applies:
    Headlight failure: if the headlight on a movement fails and repairs cannot be made, ditch lights may be used instead and the movement can proceed.
    If all headlights and ditch lights fail, such lights as available must be used to the point repairs can be made and must not exceed 10mph over private or public crossings without automatic warning devices unless it is known to be clear and will remain clear.
    Human error could also be a factor but lights do occasionally burn out for some reasons

  • @mikehowey4869
    @mikehowey4869 Рік тому +3

    A lot of towns have banned horns at crossings,stupid in my opinion. I've noticed several instances where the lead loco did not have headlights on.

    • @conductorcammon
      @conductorcammon Рік тому +1

      By law we have to have the headlight and ditchlights going over crossings.

    • @einar8019
      @einar8019 Рік тому

      Needing a horn at a crossing is even stupider

    • @locomotivesteam9334
      @locomotivesteam9334 Рік тому

      @@einar8019 How? With how many idiots try to outrun trains it's actually not a bad idea.

  • @ryandavis7593
    @ryandavis7593 Рік тому +1

    I have repaired very much worse. Nothing appears damaged on the frame and draft pocket. Everything else is more or less cosmetic. It seems a lot worse than it is. When they are wrecked on their sides as in a roll over is far mor difficult.
    Composite locomotive mechanic speaking here.

  • @nicholaslokos7949
    @nicholaslokos7949 Рік тому +3

    For those who have seen Unstoppable (specifically the bit with them shooting the fuel cutoff, note thay while the movie took some HUGE creative liberties with the "inspired by true events" that scene was pretty much ripped straight from what happened with CSX 8888. Where they did, in fact, shoot a rifle round at the fuel cutoff.

  • @lifeintornadoalley
    @lifeintornadoalley Рік тому +1

    What'll be the next everyday occurrence? A cop parking on tracks with a handcuffed suspect?

  • @freedomfan4272
    @freedomfan4272 Рік тому +3

    If you ever have a question about csx locomotives, djstrains is a friendly guy and is also a engineer for CSX. He recently posted a video of his opinion on 4 axle Locomotives and he is going to post one soon on 6 axle locos

  • @RoyalHudson2860
    @RoyalHudson2860 Рік тому +1

    I live in Canada and i live in a small town in Saskatchewan and i seen alot of CN and CP but i have only seen 2 VIA RAIL are very rare for me. Also very good videos keep up the good work

  • @thomascurcio1792
    @thomascurcio1792 Рік тому +1

    Unstoppable is based off of the Crazy 8’s incident. Police officers actually did try to shoot the cutoff button, but it did not work of course.

  • @TheTransporter007
    @TheTransporter007 Рік тому +1

    Is "Don't dump till you hear the thump" still the general rule for most railroads & engineers when it comes to collisions?

  • @CattleRustlerOCN
    @CattleRustlerOCN Рік тому +1

    Unstoppable was based on a true story. Iirc the attempted derailing and shot at the fuel shutoff were true. Also iirc the real train was 8888 in Pennsylvania

    • @roberthultman9691
      @roberthultman9691 Рік тому

      The CSX Crazy 8s runaway loco incident started in Walbridge OH, not PA & the loco headed southward towards Cincinnati...... May 2001 8888 was an EMD SD40-2............ Goggle is your friend.........

  • @Mybody4life
    @Mybody4life Рік тому +5

    Awesome. I wonder if you could do a video that explains how trains with DPUs work on mountains like Cajon Pass, where cresting the top say locos at the front have to slow up whilst DPUs keep
    pushing etc. could you explain how this is controlled?

    • @jason27swg
      @jason27swg Рік тому

      Google locomotive fencing

    • @r_mon_e
      @r_mon_e Рік тому +1

      DPUs are controlled by radio and can be synchronous with the lead or operated separately. The head end could go into DB while the remote is still pushing.

    • @benjlar1902
      @benjlar1902 Рік тому

      @@r_mon_e correct, this would be called putting the fence up and the engineer can control in certain situations

  • @trevorbeard6692
    @trevorbeard6692 Рік тому +2

    I was told by a road foreman several years ago that the most survivable space inside the cab was against the backwall in the center. But we always get In the floor before we strike trees/semi trucks.

  • @P90F55
    @P90F55 Рік тому +2

    Locomotives are safe. Railroads aren't. Railroads do nothing for safety. They just make a rule against whatever is dangerous instead of eliminating the danger.

    • @roberthultman9691
      @roberthultman9691 Рік тому

      Psgr 90's statement "Railroads do nothing for safety," is false. RRs adopted air brakes beginning as soon as the air brake was developed in the 1870s. Decades ago RR operating crew (engrs, flagmen, conductors, brakemen, firemen, etc) routinely boarded & deboarded moving equipment & RRs started prohibiting such actions because of excessive injuries to employees. Back in the early 80s, RRs started eliminating cabooses from most freight trains since conductors & rearend brakemen & flagmen kept getting injured from the train's slack action. RRs also adopted use of radio communications as a way to make operations more safe & efficient. So, Psgr 90's statement is false.

    • @P90F55
      @P90F55 Рік тому

      @@roberthultman9691 Railroads adopted air brakes because the govenment forced them otherwise it was cheaper to just keep replacing dead brakeman. The other things you mentioned were implemented to increase profits.

  • @barbararoberto1258
    @barbararoberto1258 Рік тому +2

    Interesting video good to know info thumbs up

  • @em2attic
    @em2attic Рік тому +1

    Thats too bad that wasnt the case in the recent collision on the UP's Yuma sub where the well cars punctured the front of the cab of the locomotive killing the crew inside. But yes regaurdless locomotives have come such a long way in a good way as far as safety goes.

  • @Frightshaker89FLclassicfan
    @Frightshaker89FLclassicfan Рік тому +1

    I fill like school buses and trains are the same because you always need head lights wile useing a bus and a train sick

  • @zeetrain9625
    @zeetrain9625 Рік тому +1

    As a railroader, it all depends on the speed and what you hit. Last month we lost two railroad brothers, they rear ended and empty stack train destroying the locomotives...

  • @nicksfuntv1281
    @nicksfuntv1281 Рік тому +1

    I have found wasp's nests inside of Steel bells before. Ones that have not been used in a long time.

  • @DV_Graph1cs
    @DV_Graph1cs Рік тому +9

    Great video, very educational. My personal favorite EMD cab is the one used on SD70ACC's. Just has a mean look to it that I like.

  • @michaelingram2492
    @michaelingram2492 Рік тому +2

    I took that train from Jacksonville FL to Macon Ga. I handed that train off to the crew in Macon. It is always scary to think about it.

  • @AlanMullen-w1f
    @AlanMullen-w1f 4 місяці тому +1

    Good morning.cool show. Thanks from n\e Oh. Al

  • @mcanderson0
    @mcanderson0 Рік тому +1

    when comparing/displaying various engines, its great to point out make & model, but i think itd be useful to point out a couple major distinctive features of each one perhaps? To most viewers, every single one looked like the one prior, so a couple comments regarding major distinctions would help us viewers follow along better. Just a thought. Cheers

  • @onlineconsumer9
    @onlineconsumer9 День тому

    This channel deserves more subscribers; just look at the quality these videos...both the b-roll and information are just amazing

  • @831zapata
    @831zapata Рік тому +1

    Question is how safe are the tracks not locomotives

    • @yacaattwood2421
      @yacaattwood2421 Рік тому +1

      Definitely!
      I worked for Conrail from 1979-1984, in various freight yards in the Philadelphia area. The tracks were pretty bad in and near the freight yards.

  • @BostonBurns-o9z
    @BostonBurns-o9z 6 місяців тому +1

    what about the SD70ACe

  • @690_5
    @690_5 Рік тому +1

    I'm a truck driver: Steel coils are extremely deadly for anyone. They're absolutely horrifying and should only be pulled by extremely experienced drivers.

    • @stanpatterson5033
      @stanpatterson5033 Рік тому +2

      Even better, ship them by rail. They have specialized, covered cars, just for steel coils. Could also load them on traditional flatcars. Yes, you're going to say that not every steel plant (shipping or receiving) has rail access. That could be addressed in the planning stages of starting up a business... build where the rails are.

    • @roberthultman9691
      @roberthultman9691 Рік тому

      @@stanpatterson5033 You're correct that rail transport of sheet steel coils is better than trucks. There have been many designs for covered coil steel cars over the yrs. However, RRs would never haul steel coils on a flatcar. The buff & draft forces experienced by the flatcar would toss the coils into the next car ahead or behind the car carrying the coils. No amount of wood blocking would keep the coil where it should stay. Thus the designs for coil steel cars over the yrs.

  • @johnr5252
    @johnr5252 Рік тому +1

    I find it interesting that they are called diesels but are actually electric.

    • @thomasmaughan4798
      @thomasmaughan4798 Рік тому +1

      They should be called diesel-electric; the prime mover is a diesel generator and the traction motors are electric.

  • @krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

    the fuel cutoff button controls the fuel pump control circuit - which controls the fuel pump control - which controls the fuel pump relay. its normally closed, so if those goons had shot it with some accuracy, it would have shut down.

  • @RailPreserver2K
    @RailPreserver2K Рік тому +1

    Finally enough Unstoppable is inspired by a major screw up on csx's part look up the Crazy 8 incident

  • @Traincop
    @Traincop Рік тому +1

    Train horns and the bells are awesome I just want to here it all day

  • @tonyburzio4107
    @tonyburzio4107 Рік тому

    What do locomotives and Star Fleet vessels have in common? No seat belts. :-)

  • @daveluehr8685
    @daveluehr8685 8 місяців тому

    I heard that not long after CN started to use the safety cab that UP (?) borrowed a set of engines to evaluate. They accidentally met head on with standard cab locomotives....Safety cab passed, standard cab failed.

  • @RLKRAILTIES
    @RLKRAILTIES Рік тому

    In Mexico, all locomotives are required to have metal bars also known as Security Bars in all windows and doors the moment any locomotive enters Mexico for example a Ferromex locomotive in the lower 48 states does not have to include the security bars installed as crime rate is lower here. In Mexico however, they must have the security bars installed regardless of which state the locomotive is in Mexico, i.e, Chihuahua, Tamaulipas, or Sinaloa as the crime rate is much higher there due to lack of infrastructure, lack of police presence, and the lack of space. I need to research more of Mexico’s railways. Also slandered gauge railways have no connections to Guatemala as Guatemala has only narrow gauge rail lines of which almost all but a few are abandoned in the country of Guatemala.

  • @RailsofForney
    @RailsofForney 7 місяців тому

    8:52
    You have to hold in the cutoff valve for it to do anything. They did this with CSXs ‘Crazy 8s’ incident, and it didn’t work for the same reason.

  • @solarflare623
    @solarflare623 Рік тому

    I can see why you would want the windows to be able to take a bullet. People will sometimes shoot a few shots at trains. Why? CUZ THIS IS AMERICA!

  • @benjlar1902
    @benjlar1902 Рік тому

    ill tell you, the SD75s are the best engines ever made for road power. they react how the engineer wants them to. the sd70m-2's are the worst. I cant stand them. loud, wheelslip alarm, drop their load constantly. just a piss poor product.

  • @markcarey8426
    @markcarey8426 Рік тому +1

    What's that three rail track at the beginning? Where it shows the damaged Loco by itself?

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Рік тому

    Supposedly the LLSL horn signal derives from the Queen of England. When she was aboard a ship it gave the "Q" signal for right of way. Railroads adopted it when she was on a train

  • @Viking88Power
    @Viking88Power Рік тому

    Definitely not a write off thats pretty superficial damage. I was a conductor for 5 years and felt very safe in those modern GE's, the old SD-40s not at all.

  • @MoodyBlue42..
    @MoodyBlue42.. Рік тому +3

    Another fine V12 production!! Love these topics Charles. Keep em coming 😁👍

  • @gloria6229
    @gloria6229 Рік тому

    I recreated the BNSF ES44DC #7714 Vs. Georgia Clay truck collision.

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 2 місяці тому

    Railroad crossing accidents happen too often because of one simple reason: People make dumb mistakes.

  • @SFCRambo60
    @SFCRambo60 Рік тому +1

    I here that the CEO'S of the Railroads want to do away with all humans? To me that's Ridiculous and the CEO or CEO'S need new jobs. There is no computers that are 100 % safe. Yes, humans aren't either but they can do more than be a computer.

  • @felicetanka
    @felicetanka Рік тому

    In USA trains carry product privately. In Europe product and people, privately and publicly.

  • @sashidharan1192
    @sashidharan1192 Рік тому

    The technology can't save human mistake. No technology can't stop trains like car.
    Only government can eliminate unmanned level crossings to make over pass or underpass.

  • @MortenK65
    @MortenK65 Рік тому

    Isn't 'long' noses more appropriate than 'wide'. Also, I think longitude and latitude is backward, so theres that.

  • @joedavis4096
    @joedavis4096 Рік тому

    A UP official told me that the average locomotive had more electronic safety built in to a locomotive than a Boeing 747..I call Bullshit

  • @BNSF4706
    @BNSF4706 Рік тому

    BNSF 7714 is a GE ES44DC from the number series and radiator. (I learned this in a stream last night)

  • @Elliottblancher
    @Elliottblancher Рік тому +1

    Cabs aren't really safe. One well known example was the Hinton accident in 1986, the Locomotives that were involved were completed destroyed since the impact was at track speed. Low speed accidents are a different story.

    • @AbelG8781
      @AbelG8781 Рік тому +2

      You're comparing locomotives from the 20th century to locomotives of the 21st LMAO

    • @Elliottblancher
      @Elliottblancher Рік тому +1

      @@AbelG8781 the Locomotives were gp40s which was new then with the Canadian comfort cab which still operates now

    • @ZombieSlayer-dj3wb
      @ZombieSlayer-dj3wb Рік тому +1

      And the irony off it the trailing sd40s had a safety reset while the geep didnt

  • @Fr33zeBurn
    @Fr33zeBurn Рік тому

    My friend love the video but please master your volume about 1/3rd higher when editing it is very quiet.

  • @leadslinger49
    @leadslinger49 Рік тому

    Good video thank you. The standard cabs we had were cold in the winter. We had to pack paper towels around the doors to keep our the cold air. Then repack them when we were done making a move.

  • @TrainMedia00
    @TrainMedia00 9 місяців тому

    This is probably my favorite video of your channel and not gonna lie these locomotives are safer than cars or trucks

  • @wideslammer
    @wideslammer Рік тому +1

    Another interesting video. It included some things I was unaware of.

  • @h2osmokey
    @h2osmokey 10 місяців тому

    What was the inspiration for grade crossing horn to be 2 long, 1 short, 1 long? It is the Morse code letter Q.

  • @CarlosZepeda-ov9fb
    @CarlosZepeda-ov9fb Рік тому

    I not 100%sure but how Georgia clay Covered is a bnsf locomotive?

  • @larryoneill7432
    @larryoneill7432 Рік тому

    PTC doesn’t prevent idiots from trying to beat the train. Retired engineer 30 years NSRR

  • @DoNotEatPoo
    @DoNotEatPoo Рік тому +3

    Good info. The next train I buy, will definitely be looking for that 5 star crash rating.

  • @001Redline100
    @001Redline100 Рік тому

    Нужно делать безопасность на железной дороги как в России и в странах СНГ, тогда будут меньше крушений.

  • @Bryson453
    @Bryson453 Рік тому +1

    My dad drives locomotives and he’s never complained about the safety at all

  • @RailPreserver2K
    @RailPreserver2K Рік тому +1

    You should have used the footage from operation Smash Hit where they literally wrecked a train into a nuclear flash to show just how much it could take, the footage is incredible to see

    • @leenettywilson528
      @leenettywilson528 Рік тому

      I have seen that mate its a class 36 I think and two carriages they put on too it the locomotive weighed 139 tonnes with carriages it weighed 220 tonnes that flask weighed 50 tonnes and it was in the 1980s in england they put the flask on a flatbed and they weigh about 40 to 50 tonnes why I say that is because that locomotive come out quiet good I seen a picture of it upright on some sideing also the track was took away just a few foot from the flask and flatbed so that train hit over 100 tonnes going 100mph I think the kinetic energy rebounded back at the train , I was about 7 years old lol wen I seen that video , godbless you,

  • @Spookster8178
    @Spookster8178 Рік тому

    2:11 it’s crazy to think I’m going to the southeastern railway museum on Saturday

  • @sys9208
    @sys9208 Рік тому

    They should block whole road instead of only one lane when train is coming.

  • @alaxandergw3245
    @alaxandergw3245 Рік тому

    Too bad the union has drove this country's rail system into the ground.

  • @djjamar
    @djjamar Рік тому +1

    Coils are killers

    • @schinbone0
      @schinbone0 Рік тому

      That and fuel trucks are the only thing that scared me.

  • @thomasmaughan4798
    @thomasmaughan4798 Рік тому

    "How SAFE are Locomotives?"
    About a 7.

  • @burtman12
    @burtman12 Рік тому

    How about those white boxes on top the locomotive, are those GPS boxes?

  • @claycoates5056
    @claycoates5056 Рік тому

    there is one take away form my time driving a truck and life in general that ANY TRUCK DRIVER GETTING HIT BY A TRAIN SHOULD NEVER GET TO DRIVE EVER AEGEAN THERE IS NO REASON THAT A TRUCK DRIVER SHOULD BE IN THIS POSITION
    THIS IS PUTTING THE LIFE AND PROPERTY OF THE DRIVER AND OTHERS AT RISK
    THIS IS FOR THE SAFETY FOR THE DRIVER AND THE OTHERS AROUND there are a need for the drivers to be as safe and the best at what the do if they are not aware of there surroundings they are just not safe to drive

    • @stanpatterson5033
      @stanpatterson5033 Рік тому

      As far as I know, trucking is an equal opportunity occupation. Any idiot can try his or her hand at earning a living doing it. They have a system in place that penalizes poor drivers, but it is up to the individual to prove his or her worth, and collect the appropriate prizes.

  • @QuadMochaMatti
    @QuadMochaMatti Рік тому

    Why focus on the locomotives alone? It's the railways themselves that are dangerous, and are crumbling apart due to mismanagement and corporate greed. Perhaps their rights-of-ways should be surrendered for failing to uphold basic principles of conducting their operations in a safe manner. How have any of these relentless mega-mergers over the benefited the average American citizen who is not amongst the privileged investment class?

    • @locomotivesteam9334
      @locomotivesteam9334 Рік тому

      Why only focus on the Locomotives alone?!?! Idk... Maybe because that's where the Train crew are? Also Railways are not dangerous, they can be but 95% of the time they're not.

  • @asquithmainlines699
    @asquithmainlines699 Рік тому

    Has anyone ever told you that you look a lot like Ben off of Sorted Food?

  • @AlexTheRailfan
    @AlexTheRailfan Рік тому +1

    Great explanation! This really interests me a lot how cabs are safe, this really saves alot of railroaders lives! Thanks for sharing! 👍

    • @jasoncutlip950
      @jasoncutlip950 Рік тому

      Unfortunately crews die in those cabs with an alarming regularity.

  • @trainwreck4198
    @trainwreck4198 Рік тому

    I can’t see a Southern Pacific’s T-2 as a wife but it was cool

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe Рік тому

    Grade separation and proper crossing geometry & maintenance of the track would prevent a lot of accidents…
    Bulletproof windows?
    Only in the US !

    • @roberthultman9691
      @roberthultman9691 Рік тому

      Not "bullet proof", the windows have to resist a specified ballistic impact............. better term is "bullet-resistant"

  • @jasoncutlip950
    @jasoncutlip950 Рік тому

    Safe enough that crews keep dying.

  • @FlaredRadiator
    @FlaredRadiator Рік тому

    2:03 oh my god 4048 has one good K3L or whatever it is

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014

    We should really improve crossing safety technology to make these accidents less frequent.

    • @ebolduc4150
      @ebolduc4150 Рік тому

      You can make crossings as safe as humanly possible however... humans being humans will still have a massive ton of incidents. A lot of the railway related incidents are due to drunk or suicidal people trespassing on tracks.

    • @AbelG8781
      @AbelG8781 Рік тому

      Sorry kid, all comes down to how stupid people are around trains.

    • @ebolduc4150
      @ebolduc4150 Рік тому

      @@AbelG8781 this exactly. Humans tend to not care about their own life and put themselves at great risk all the time. You remove one dangerous thing and they come up with a way to make it dangerous again

    • @AbelG8781
      @AbelG8781 Рік тому

      @@ebolduc4150 yup. Yesterday we had a fatal train VS pedestrian in Houston where a 17 year old girl was walking on the tracks. Her friends didn't warn her....

    • @ebolduc4150
      @ebolduc4150 Рік тому

      @@AbelG8781 yeh i have a few places around me thats bad, homeless encampments propped in the forest with the only access being that tracks is pretty dangerous. For my ~400 miles of track i dont think we have hit anyone since roughly mid august.