Introduction to India's Vedic Age
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- In this video, we'll take a look at what is arguably the most influential period of Indian history, the Vedic Age.
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Russian: "To vash dom, etot nash dom"
Sanskrit: "Tat vas dham, etat nas dham"
-"This is your house, this is our house"
Donkey waste
Dirty fellow
@@janmenjojanmenjo7566 what ?
@@janmenjojanmenjo7566 self description
Yea Russian sounds like Sanskrit so sanskrit came to India from Europe not the other way around.
This is pathetic.
White people accepting that their language has Indian or Iranian origin is the last thing i expect🤣
Fun fact : the reason temples were not a thing in ancient India was simply because temples are a fairly new concept. Earlier temples were houses of knowledge and essentially acted like schools. The God that was placed in the temple more or less decided the topic. - this is what i was told by some historians.
The epics mentions temples. Most likely they were made of wood , thats why they did not survived
Temple building shastras come more from Aagams than from Vedas ..... Aagams are complementary to Vedas and complete them , However there was a time when most of the India only practiced Vedas.
Nonsense! Sacrificial Brahmins (who offered to the Devas) and Temples were only invented in the second part of the Dvaparayuga after the Devas had defeated the Daityas and had thrown them into Patala. Before that in the first part of the Dvaparayuga the housefathers and their wifes offered at the oven of the house to the Daityas. And before that in Tretayuga only at the north pole ("navel of the earth") was offered to Brahma (the sacrifice of Daksha for example which Shiva disturbed). And before that in Satyayuga (which is the last part of Kritayuga when already humans = sons of Brahma existed) no offerings were made and worshipping of Brahman through the Jayas was only made through meditation.
I’ve learnt more watching your ~10min long videos then I ever did at school
That's faint praise, school sucked. Lol, and Cy doesn't cane me either.
So true. And I live in the Hindi/Hindu heartland. Even Hindu right wingers have no clue about the Vedic culture.
In fact, very few "Chaturvedi" have actually read the Vedas. They lay claim to the surname, due to their lineage,but ask them to name the four Vedas,and they'll fall flat. It's very strange really. A civilization which takes pride in the preservation of its culture, and the people have no clue what sanatan dharm is about.weird people. And that includes my mum. :)
Hey, I know very little about India myself but I think the out of india theory is without any mainstream scholarly support. I thought it's seen as a nationalistic-regligious view of a minority of scholars.
Hi! It's been a while since I've seen this video so not sure what I might have said in it, but I agree that Out of India theory is dismissed by most scholars. I myself also don't believe in it for I feel that the linguistic evidence is pretty clear that Sanskrit and the languages derived from it are Indo-European languages which have their roots further to the north in southern Russia/Central Asian steppe region, but I think at the time when I made this video I was trying to be fair to all sides and since I know that many Indians (not just nationalists) believe in the Out of India theory, I mentioned it in the video. Thanks again for your comment and if you have any questions please don't hesitate to let me know!
@@HistorywithCyCame across your video, and though the Aryan Migration theory is standard amongst Western academics, why do you only colour the Out of India theory as being loved by Indian nationalists? Should you also not care to mention the chauvinistic and colonial history of the Aryan Invasion theory, of which the migration theory is only a later modification?
You aren't being fair to all sides here as you then continue to describe what is essentially the Aryan Invasion theory (Horse, chariots, iron weapons etc..) in the rest of the video.
Damn. I still can't get over it how good and informative this channel is. You rock man!
Thanks so much for the compliment, I really appreciate it! More to come soon!
@@HistorywithCy No man. I thank you. Your channel is very inspiring and if I get my shit together some day I'm gonna start my own history channel
yes it even inspired me I have made a video on my channel already on the same topic
@@HistorywithCy what's Y-DNA marker of Aryas/Vedic? What's antiquity of Aryas' DNA in steppe? Which race did ride Chariot in Steppe?
One of my favourite eras in history, great job at covering it, I learned alot! thanks!
Hey, thanks for stopping by, appreciate it! Yeah it's a pretty fascinating time. This was an older video and since then, I've actually learned more about the Vedic period so will probably revisit this topic again. Hope all is well on your end and stay safe!
Ancient Indian civilization is fascinating.
true but that is exactly what causes poverty and low way of life in India today, due to this Indian can't accept modernism
That is a myth. No dating, no archaeological finding. No script.
@@jugg9140 please do not speak when you have no knowledge of the subject. You clearly have no clue about india's history and culture and no clue about the factors responsible for poverty in india today.
@@jugg9140 BS the so-called low life Indians and poor India had contribution of at least more than 1/4th of the world GDP for more than 1500 years. Same goes for the advances in the military technology and adoption of advanced warfare too.
The etymology is fascinating. Raja has the same root as rex, regent, regina, regiment and so on. Agni clearly has to do with ignite. And veda is akin to German Wissen, meaning knowledge
Regal as well.
And English Wise
that means indians migrated to europe to spread vedic culture
not to mention deva and divine/deity
In swedish 'veta' means 'to know"
Love it, rapidly becoming one of my favourite channels!!!!
Thank you, glad you're here and thanks for stopping by... more to come soon!
My grandma knows all the mantras I’m an indian
There are many many verses NP
Catura vivāhitā 👍
Proud Indian ♥️ our knowledge our culture is something out of the world 🔥💕 🇮🇳
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 evidence unesco valo se mang bhai . Unhone hi apni site pe dala hai.
Great nation of India .. nice to learn about its origin and culture which is ambiguous to me though i had to listen to the video few times to grasp every detail but it was worth it.
Thanks my friend, it's always great to have you stop by...glad the video was worth it!
Love the information. Thanks for the awesome video explanation!!! Respectfully...
Thank you for stopping by, I really appreciate it! More to come soon!
Thank you, Cy, for another informative video
My pleasure, you're welcome!
Wow, clear, concise, and to the point. Becoming addicted to you channel. Thanks so much.
Thanks so much, glad you like the style of the videos. More on India coming soon, stay tuned and stay safe!
I am really enjoying your videos about ancient India, and have learned a lot. You are easy to listen to, and I like your voice! Thank you for your videos! ~Janet in Canada
I think the "Out of India" idea is very hard to defend based on available evidence. The oldest vedas contain information about local plants found in central Asia (so in that case they must have gone there and back again, but it's simpler to assume they came from there). Also, there was a continued spread of Sanskrit and Sanskrit-based languages southward into historic times, continuing the wave from Vedic times. There is an ingrained idea within India itself that upper Vedic classes were "brighter" sometimes literally taken to mean lighter skin color (notice that you noted; varna could be translated as color). Having said all that, I do think that many key elements of India's religions actually predate the Vedas and come from within the subcontinent, Hinduism was a fusion of different ideas.
What are the evidence you are talking about
@@avijaiswal5819 See for instance the book India: The Ancient Past by Burjor Avari
@@avijaiswal5819 One is that Sanskrit is significantly less complex than several other Indo European languages, like Lithuanian, usually older languages are more complex.
@@deepaknagar6213 No one has definitively found the Saraswati. This out of India theory is just a high caste attempt to further demonize the lower castes, it has to be destroyed completely.
@@deepaknagar6213 stop name-calling people you don't even know in real life. It's because of arrogant people like you that the present society can't have healthy debates.
It is from one absolute reality (EkamSat/Brahman) everything in this universe came. Devas and Devis were also created like us. They are in our minds too. Only difference is that they do all the natural phenomenon in this observable universe. In Vedic times it was Indra who was omnipresent. Varuna was the keeper of cosmic law. Agni was inner desire or ambition of human mind to achieve great heights. Mitra is helper of Varuna. In post vedic times all this changed. Vedic Rudra become Shiva, Prajapathi become Brahma, Vishnu become more powerful and Sachi (Indra wife) become Shakti.
Vedic Gods - Indra, Mithra, Varuna, Soma, Savithr, Agni, Prajapati, Ashwins, Adithyas, Yama, Rudra, Vishnu, Dayus etc.
Vedic Goddesses - Sachi, (Indrani) Vaaruni, Saraswati, Prithvi, Ushas, Vaac etc.
Puranic Gods - Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Shakthi, Skandha & Ganapathi.
Everything in this universe comes from one truth/one absolute reality.(all planets, stars, galaxies, living creatures, gods and goddesses) - Vedas
Jeevathma and Paramathma are not different. If we abandon all loukika thrishnas such as kaama, krodha, moha created by maaya. We will attain moksha after death - Advaitha
Only way to attain moksha is through sampoorna sharanagati to Sriman Narayana. And this universe is not maaya, it is real - Vishishta Dwaitham
Hinduism is not a single religion. It is not based on a single god or single prophet. Neither it contain verses which says those who don't obey our god or prophet are kafirs (liars, pagans, sinners, disgusting sub humans) will be punished in hell. Their beliefs and worship places should be destroyed.
Vedas, Upanishads, Dharma Shastras,(including Manu) Puranas, Agamas, Thantras, Ithihasas, Advaitha, Dwaitha, Vishishtadwaitha and various tribal beliefs are what we collectively call Hinduism now.
Very informative esp. your info about the early Vedic and later Vedic . good work
Thanks for stopping by and the feedback, I really appreciate it! More to come soon!
Sad part is we south Asians care less about our actual history and more about our religions which have been twisted, corrupted and misinterpreted thoroughly over time.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 then you're just another secular atheist
@@xiuhcoatl4830 he is just saying truth.
We're brahmins and we still recite vedas after all these long years.
We believe saraswati river as origin of our civilization as rig vedas mention saraswati as source of civilization
is raamaayaana in vedas?
@@ctynwbraygalm ramayana doesn't come under vedas.
It comes under itihasa.
@@ctynwbraygalm yes king Rama is mentioned in one of the hymn i.e. hymn number 94 of book 10 🙂🙂along with some rulers of epics
@@shubhamkandhwayjaihind....7574
I know that King Divodasa, the father of King Sudas who fought in the Battle of the Ten Kings, was the brother in law of King Dasaratha, Lord Rama's father
Beautifully crafted video.
Thanks, glad you liked it! More on the way, stay tuned and safe!
Many thanks for the elucidation.
No problem, my pleasure. Thank YOU for stopping by!
DNA research support the Indo European theory, but it's likely that the cultures blended.
Just a small correction, the last Veda is atharva veda and not Arthava veda.. I know it’s just a small change but they probably mean different things. Great information though.
Hi, hope that all is well. Thanks for the feedback and info about pronunciation, I really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Always enjoying watching your videos, and this video is so good, i see so many similarities between ancient Slavs and vedic culture, no written records, tree built buildings and Veda simillar to Vid Slavic god, also Indra is totally simillar to Slavic Perun
Pls do on indian warfare ,battle tatics and how ot varied from regions
One day my friend, I'll do it... have to study it more first but it's a really interesting topic... thanks for suggestion!
Chess was a valued form of entertainment between the warriors of India.
Because it taught them to use logic and tactics in battle.
Wich is why Alexander of Macedon brought chess with him to every other side of the empire.
To train his soldiers in a more efficient way.
Just thought it was interesting to know.
@@HistorywithCy One interesting place to start would be the Yuddha Podcast by Anirudh Kanisetty
@@hermescarraro3393 he not brought chess but indians spreaded chess.only greek sources mention about him indian sources from that time not mention anything so its greek view.
great video ❤️
Pronounciation of Indian words were really good. I'm starting to think Cy might have some Indian blood
Great video! Always funny how nationalism injects in to historical study (both in the modern Indian context and how loaded the word Aryan is in the wake of Nazi Europe). This is why we need good scholarship to find the truth, not what is politically convenient. Truth must always win out. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback! More to come soon!
But what he said was a wrong criticism aimed at Indian scholars who mostly deny the theory. Most Indian scholars don’t believe that Indians were the source for all Indo European people, they just deny a nomadic people being able to write the most comprehensive work with no match for thousands of years even in the most settled civilizations. This is what most Indian scholars believe:
1) vedic civ descended from Indus civ, this is supported by the fact that there’s no material change, and no archeological site showing an invasion or change in religious, cultural or burial practices. Even architectural practices are almost exactly the same.
2) vedas were written from a time period spanning from Indus golden age to the dark ages and written by settled people, not nomadic savages. This should be obvious, since Vedic people know about Sarasvati river, and a barbarian people cannot write something like the Vedas. Mention of chariots isn’t a problem since golden age Indus Valley civilization has chariots contrary to popular belief.
3) the elephant in the room is obviously language, half of Sanskrit is Indo european based. Indian scholars simply think that this is a result of post collapse Indus Valley region being heavily influenced by Iranic people of Afghanistan, specially since unlike today, crossing from Indus Valley to Afghanistan was easy back then
IDUBBZZ you Indians underestimate the power of oral literature. The Iliad, perhaps the closest thing to the Bible in the ancient world, was transmitted through oral poetry for hundreds of years. How civtarded! Also there were many differences between the Vedic people and the Indus Valley people
@@idubbzz7899 Also, the steppe (semi nomads) proved themselves capable of great works exemplified by the fine craftsmanship of all the items in their burials, the fact that they invented the chariot and their massive burial mounds. The Scythians are descended from the Aryans( and largely preserved their lifestyle) and where repeatedly described as incredibly skilled in battle and able to field very large armies by writers in all the settled civilizations they encountered. You still have the problem of Sanskrit being an Indo-European language, the problem of the introduction of Indo-European material culture, genes(mostly male genes pointing to invasion) and culture. Denying the invasion of the Aryans is entirely based on trying to save face instead of admitting the truth
@@alexdunphy3716 saving the face smh one more European. Just last week one more research proved how climate change destroyed the civilisation but ignorant want to be ignorant no problem 👍
Great Video!!
Thanks!
It's so informative + learnt about vedic era ... and so initiative about it .... 💯 ...and knows about the religious and cultural activities and societies ....
Now no one is pure indo european. Most of the people are mixed- mix of dravidian and indo european. Even in north east part of india some mongoloid genetic influence is also present.
Thanks
It's really helpful for me.
Thanks, I'm glad it helped! More on the way, stay tuned!
@@HistorywithCy sure..☺️
It is very nice thanks for this video
Thank you for stopping by, I Really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Cy ... I am wondering about the 'Gypsies' and that they were said to have originated in India.
Bro i was searching for a video like this. Thank you . Im from NE India,Nagaland. Lots of love Vikepo Victor Koso
Good effort
Good job, my man!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
3:10 Ah, I love that art by Minna Sundberg.
Haha thanks for letting me know, I didn't know that was the artist...love the work!
They converted the varna to caste system .. and did horrible things.. and still doing horrible things to the lower castes ... what is being projected outside about india is completely different. .. inside india... it is all discrimination only..
Pronunciation of Veda on point
This makes me wonder 3 things. Who originated the wheel, were Sumerians from India, and how close did chariot use come to adoption of iron as well ... ?
Excellent video......lays out a foundation to better understand Indian culture/history in your usual easy to understand manner.You really excel at this.I must echo ajith sidhu's comment below on doing something on Indian warfare and battle tactics , weaponry etc.If in your study of ancient India you should ever run across a certain map I'd be totally indebted to you if you shared the source with me.I ran across it online years ago .....lost it....and haven't been able to find it since.It showed many cities involved in a major war and denoted what side they were on in squares divided by I think it was blue and green segments.Think....but not sure...it had to do with the Mahabharata.Perhaps it came from some book and is under copyright and thus not shown any longer on the web.If you ever need any help with researching anything I'd be glad to help.You seem to be covering a lot of ground of many subjects/area's.You must be busy as hell with research and making the video's.Don't hesitate to ask if you need.....be more than happy and honored to help.
Thanks so much for stopping by and the kind world, I really appreciate them. Yeah I think weapons would be interesting but to be honest it's probably a bit outside my area of expertise. If I do find such a map, I'll let you know. Was it a map that outlined the various janapadas? Thanks also for the offer of help, I appreciate it and will let you know...more to come, stay tuned!
@@HistorywithCy Looked to be individual cities or city-states.......thanks......thought I'd give it a shot to see if you had seen it somewhere in your studies
Ajit Sidhu is an amateur military historian and his work is crap and pure BS.
Loved it ❤fantastic job Cy thank you 🙋♀️ big fan from Tucson AZ
Thank you for continuing to watch these... so glad to have viewers in the Grand Canyon State!
Is there annother episode on India?
In Dutch “to know” is “weten” or “weet”, sounds much like veda or ved
So is it safe to say most of the writers of the Vedas were a genetic mix of the native people of the Indus Valley region and the migration people from the Steep ? I notice there are hundreds of Tamil words in the Vedas so I don't think it was just a foreign element which wrote the Vedas.
It was mostly the andronovo+ivc people
@@Magnonx Wrong. The Steep people who migrated to northern India were there for over 300 years before the Vedas were written. In that time they mixed with the local women and their off springs wrote the Vedas.
@@yodhin79 literally what I implied
Creeping me out how Every time you upload a video its about something I was just talking about the day before Cy
Cause he is a god...
I think
Glad we're all on the same page! Hmmm... have you been talking about the Mauryan Empire because they're coming up soon!
Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate and glad you're here!
Haha no, not a god... just some one who loves uncovering history and sharing with people... but thanks!
@@HistorywithCy i love you cy
@@HistorywithCy You should contact and bring Rajiv Malhotra to your UA-cam channel.
Liked and subscribed 🙏
very good films on indus valley civ, thanks. more of the same will be much appreciated!!
Thank you! Yes, I definitely have more in the works for India from ancient to the British Raj...this summer is when I plan to complete and release most of them. Thanks again for stopping by and stay tuned!
Interestingly Harappan Civilization seems older than Vedic period. Moreover the language (..and script) used by IVC was not Sanskrit.
Fantastic lecture, Cy! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words and stopping by, I appreciate it!
Love your videos. Can you do one on the coming of the Indo Iranians and the split between the Indian and Iranian tribes?
@@Golshanim Hi! Oh definitely, I'll be covering this in some depth in future. I actually come from a traditional Zoroastrian family and so when I would study Avesta, I'd also have to learn a bit about the workings of Sanskrit - the similarities between the two are astounding with words that have identical or similar meanings or, due to later theological reasons, mean the exact opposite. It's some really interesting stuff that I'll definitely go further into.
Thanks for stopping by and for the suggestion, I really appreciate it!
History with Cy my father was also a mobad and therefore I am also from a Zarthusti heritage. My son is studying Ancient History at Royal Holloway university and doing his dissertation on Mithras. I also do a bit of research myself. I am particularly interested in the blending of the incoming Iranic cultures with the indigenous people. Now I am looking forward even more to what you will provide.
Cy, would you consider making a video about the Elamite-Dravidian connection hypotheses. If true they would directly connect ancient Elam to ancient Harrapa, two civs that have always intrigued me.
Love the Tunaktunak Bg music 🎶
Yes
all those who think aryans invaded and brought vedas...just tell then how dravadian (part of southern india) believe in same religion and vedas...
Where's the next part?
Sir I beg u plz explain the whole course og clss 12 history 😢cuz no one explained in English only Hindi language I don't understand anything 🙏🙏plz sir my exm is still there
what about the oldest vedic scripture which found in northern syiria at mitanni kingdom, not in india ?
They weren't Vedic scriptures at all. The Mittani Indo-Aryans diverged from the rest of the Indo-Aryans very early on, before Vedic scripture really got going. The only texts we have are treaties and a horse training text, not really any Vedic scriptures.
@@chinmaybhogilal6459 ...they were the OLDEST, they said about Indra etc before india did...read about it...i forgot.
@@chinmaybhogilal6459 they have mentioned vedic gods
Shubham Mishra They mentioned Indo-Aryan gods. What does Vedic mean? It means something to do with the Vedas. The Indo-Aryans of Mitanni diverged before the composition of the Vedas.
@@chinmaybhogilal6459 You are missing the point. If there were no Vedas at that time, the Vedic gods wouldn't exist. The Vedas existed far before their written form, Indian religious texts were all oral before they were written down.
Just want to point out that the 4th veda called 'Atharva veda' was said as "arthava veda" here in the video.
It was so informative otherwise. 🤗
Please do more videos on India.
I hope to in the near future!
Thank you
Welcome
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, appreciate it!
Anybody can point me to a specific chapter/verse (mandala/sukta) of the quote at 06:42 ?
Thanks
It is from the Rigveda, Mandala IX, Hymn 112.
as an indian i know vedic has dominated india culturally and linguistically but i would like to know what is the Indus civilization has contributed to india culturally and linguistically that still exist in india today
Very nice I like it
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Cy, thanks for that one, Indian history is obviously undercovered in the anglophone world. I wonder, do you have family from outside the US? You sound to me like an American mostly but at times there is something in your accent that sounds differently
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it and glad that you liked the video! Yes, I am born and raised for most of my life in the US, but I have family ties to India and have been there 10-12 times in my life, so yeah, I guess the accent tends to vary at times haha. I get that a lot actually. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... more on Indian history to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I knew it! My great grandfather is from Kashmir, but we're a Swiss family eventually :-)
@@Crafty_Spirit Nice! My family is actually Parsi-Zoroastrian from Mumbai/Gujarat area. Been to Switzerland, one of the most beautiful countries I've ever visited! Nice to meet you, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy OMFG
I never saw a Parsi youtuber and never met a Parsi person irl. It's really good to see someone from the Parsi community making a video
Edit: I'm someone who studies Indian history just for hobby. If you want I can help you with video ideas!
Are you on discord?
Veda was wrote in the bank of ganges.And first person on earth originated around Mt.Kailasha ,modern Tibet .
I can see how Sanskrit is an Indo-European Language / related to English. Varna - Varnish in English. ect with many more examples. English often has more than 1 word for the same or similar thing.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 The PIE language is a re-construction. Indo-european languages all appear to be related to one another. You can use this to reconstruct the PIE language. There are also common mythologies from PIE cultures, which you can also use to reconstruct common mythologies / gods.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 Many languages are clearly related. PIE is the natural conclusion. The Mythologies and gods are also related. Its kind of like following evolution of related species back to a common ancestor.
@@Zodtheimmortal so 'white' Aryans invaded India 3500years ago and taught the indigenous population architecture,mathematics,metallurgy,and Sanskrit?Then why there is no 3500 old architecture,mathematics and Sanskrit in europe?
@@dharmrakshak6735 Sanskrit was derived from the Pro-Indo European language from modern fay Ukraine, just like many other languages. Language families are easy to follow their development. Its really indisputable. The other advancements are debatable.
@@Zodtheimmortal source
lets remember that rig veda has a universal indo european creation myth which is very similar with zoroastrianism (minus aten) i would also speculate that the area might be the homeland to europeans
Great chariot riders - aligned with egyptians/pharoahs.
What is the song that starts at 4:19
Ho would these Vedic texts have been disseminated and remained consistent among these diverse tribes in the early Vedic period?
They are clans not tribes.
What about Darth Veda?
What is the song at 4:19
It is well proven that India had developed agriculture, weapons, horse chariot before few refugees came here from outside
Watch Sinauli excavation
There was no invasion but flow if refugees
Migration yes merging of culture yes but no invation.
That doesn't refute the migration theory. Aryans were nomadic, and civilization already existed in Indus Valley. None of that refutes the theory
However even today, lower cast can not eat at upper cast brahmins restaurants.
Based
Seems probable to me that both happened at different points in history, but divining the past can be as dangerous and difficult as divining the future. Clearly it’s an opportunity for deception to attack us because our egos won’t allow us to admit there are things we just don’t know. So instead we determine history based on our preconceptions.
You explained all the casts, but didn't mentioned Dalit. Was there a concept similar to Dalit in vedic India?
Hi, thanks for your question. To my understanding in early Vedic society there was no specifi dalit/untouchable cast. That came later on as they moved southward into the subcontinent and absorbed other peoples into their society. I could be wrong but that's my understanding from what I'd studied. Thanks for watching!
@@HistorywithCy thanks! Your channel is great, I'm a fan!
@@HistorywithCy i mean original system was varna jati which was distorted by british which later started discrimination.
@@RafaelSCalsaverini there is not any dalit that word is born after Indian independence
Isn't it amazing how the priests who create the societal hierarchy always find that priests should be at the top of society, funny how that happens.
Garbage & BS
Varna system both in theory and practice has always been non-hierarchical. Varnas are categorisation and sections of people and are based on nature, character, qualification, capabilities and abilities. Both in theory and practice. Now Jaati is a different thing.
*Note: Varnas are not caste. Caste is a foreign label. Indian social structures are no castes but varnas, jaatis, janas, classes and other groupings. None of the Indian/Indic social structure is based on any religious scripture, race and skin colour.
That is a very uneducated idea on how societal relations are formed
Tbh, if I'm creating a social hierarchy, I'm smart enough to put myself on top. No I wonder why others couldn't have enough influence and power to create hierarchy according to themselves.
@drdeesnutts48 Humans are hierarchical creatures. The smartest, wealthiest, skilled, or martial always have a higher place on the social hierarchy. Higher social status often meant a greater responsibility to their subjects, with more responsibility being placed upon people who are more socially important.
Also, the priest class was the center for literacy and learning.
That’s history.
Extremely immature take
Good video🤩🌹🙏
Thanks, appreciate it!
VARNA is only professional Divide of works depending on skills
Still question and debate whether it was made by Aryans, Dravidians, Veddoids, Or Kiratas yeah
They were all one .. 🤦 there is nothing like Dravidian or aryan
Whether the vedic civilization was urban or rural is matter of debate. Some people believe that it was urban .
The Rg Veda has always seemed to be a Bronze Age work imo.
Ved (to know) sounds a lot like weet/weten (know/to know) in Dutch.
That's because they are both Indo-European languages
how you record screen
Hi. What do you mean exactly? Thanks.
Good Job Cy but you should of pointed out that despite the two theories of origin for the Vedic peoples, they themselves mention the geography of the rivers of northern India as their historical homeland. Also, If you look closer at the 3 Ancient DNA samples recently found in Afghanistan and the ancient BMAC civilization (including Fergana Valley where the horse was domesticated); It clearly shows that the "so called" Steppe Indo-European theory of an invasion is not taking into account that the steppe and BMAC and all of the northern lands were all Indo-Iranian (India), and the DNA found was the same as northern Indian DNA.
Hi, thanks for stopping by and your comments, I appreciate them! Yes, in the Vedas the major rivers in the Punjab and surrounding areas are mentioned. A whole several hour program could be made on this because it's a fascinating topic, but I just wanted to audience to know that at least within the Indian community, there are two main theories that are currently discussed. To be honest since I've lived in India for a bit, I've seen how this can be a very contentious issue, and I didn't want to go into the details of these and other theories here, especially since the focus of the video was more an introduction as to what life was like during the Vedic Age.
Again, thanks for your comments and feedback, they are always appreciated!
They converted the varna to caste system .. and did horrible things.. and still doing horrible things to the lower castes ... what is being projected outside about india is completely different. .. inside india... it is all discrimination only..
@@danny.odonoghu.8362 You learn speak gooder English not bad like some ref make fake profile and pretend to be gora
@@danny.odonoghu.8362 Looks rice bag convert,who are finding a chance to to humilate ur real father and like neighbours father so much...some how in today's india discremation occurs due to lower caste people who actually belongs to specially one caste, although their are several lower castes which are till hindu and proud to be indian, but a one caste people convert to neo budhinism which is far far away from old budhinism not at all related to real principle of budhism and some to Kristian hate most of the Hindus and they discriminate hindu gods and people by several ways.
@@HistorywithCy DNA evidence shows and influx of dna from the Andronovo culture through the BMAC Territory into India. And it's mostly male DNA. Which means invasion.
its an old video but i'd like to leave a comment saying atharva veda is not the youngest veda. that honour does belong to the sama veda, the atharva veda is the latest to be termed as a veda, as late as 500BCE according to some. a lot of the language of the atharva veda is comparable to the rig veda. this is to say that the hymns in the atharva veda, dealing more with personal things such as rituals for sickness and such, were not considered of the same class as the other 3, which are meant for large ritual activities undertaken by powerful priests under the patronage of kings. this is just the general theory widely accepted by most linguists and historians.
I thought the Aryans came from pre ice age arctic. Bal Tilak's Arctic Home in the Vedas writes about that.
generally most indians have dna from indus people but the second dna percentage is from indo arya (north india has this more than south indians generally ) but indo aryan is dominated india linguistically (north india), culturally, and religiously
You are very good but underrated sadly.
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words...more to come soon!
5:30 Is this still a debate? Dasas and dasyu were Iranian peoples in central asia not Settled peoples in India. There are numerous references to daha/dahyu and dahae in Persian and greek texts. Also Parni (the founders of the parthian empire later on) is cognate with sanskrit Pani, all mentioned with the dasas and dasyus are referred by the greeks to live with the dahae
When did Kama Sutra came into play ?
It's interesting that the Brahmins were decisively at the top of the Varna, considering the roughly equivalent European classes typically show the nobility outranking most clergy (aside from the Pope, until the Reformation). I wonder why that is
Because the vedic indians valued knowlege passed by the spoken verbe.
The brahmins were no different than other shamanistic figures and poets of those ancient times.
These figures were seen with high regard, because they passed all the knowlege of their culture and memorised it.
Wich is why brahmins were reveared and seen as more important than a raja, wich was elected by the people and not chosen by the gods like a mistic.
This is also why killing a brahmin was seen as the greatest sin.
Because by killing a holder of all cultural knowlege, you could have weakened culture and stability.
In all the cultures were shamans and storytellers are seen as the holders of knowlege and magic, they are seen as more important than the rulers of the tribe.
Like in Africa and in Australia.
The reason for the priests of other lands to be seen as lower than the rulers was because:
1) the kings were also priests, chosen by the gods (like the pharaoh)
2)The kings had ereditary positions and had way more material power than a priest.
The christian priests gained so much power because their tenples became the new bringers of civilisation after the empire collapsed.
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The idea of yogi and bogi became a thing.
A person who was detatched from the material world and was the holder of knowlege, was seen as superior when compared to a bogi, a person who valued material wealth more than spiritual wealth.
But these ideas came way after the vedic times.
After the indian religion evolved into a more spiritual practice and the brahmins and their rites began to lose favor amongst the people.
@Joe Blow
Yes I know.
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I meant to say that the idea of Yogi and Bogi took a way more drastic turn after the Vedic period.
Thank you for pointing this out.
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@Joe Blow
I agree with your comparison of brahmins and druids.
The similarities between the two are striking.
Especialy because the druids were seen as more important than the rulers of the tribes, and even them had to treat the druids with respect and reverence.
Andrew Fullerton in the original indo european society, there was a priestly upper class higher than the warrior class
The Chad Aryan VS The Virgin Dravidian
They converted the varna to caste system .. and did horrible things.. and still doing horrible things to the lower castes ... what is being projected outside about india is completely different. .. inside india... it is all discrimination only..
shut up whitoid, dont bring the divide here ok?
Danny. O'donoghu. His point proven
Not according to the Proto-Uralics. It seems that the Proto-Indo-Iranians and Proto-Uralics had some beef, and they used the term Aryan to mean "slave", as seen in Finnish "orja".
Very little of the art in the Delhi Archaeology Museum went back to 1,500 BC, most of it in the AD eras. I think it likely that the religion is not older than 1,500 BC. I thought the Indo European center of dispersal was either Anatolia or north of the Black Sea. If the language family originated in India seems like we could verify that genetically nowadays, but what do I know? Probably already has been tested.
Hyped
Thank you!
@@HistorywithCy ur research about this is lacking something nd it again supports a little bit eurocentric theory.
@@HistorywithCy do u know what is modern Hinduism. Hinduism is majorly an amalgam of vedic culture nd dravidian culture nd r two bases of Hinduism. For eg. In vedas d important gods r only brahma,saraswati,surya,vrtraghna(indra),varuna,yama nd share almost 90-95% same culture nd language with d Iranians. Vishnu nd Shiva had actually dravidian roots not vedic but later became very important part in mainstream Hinduism. Even yoga has dravidian roots actually. U can see evidences of proto-Shiva nd yoga in indus valley civilization. similarly iranian/zoroastrianism has angels/demi gods like vahistha,mithra,anahita/haravati(saraswati in vedic culture),yama,varuna,veretraghna(vrtraghna or indra in vedic culture).
@@HistorywithCy nd don't call them vedic aryans that is totally a derogatory word. Aryan comes from arya word means wise/noble irrespective of their race which is only related to d indo-iranians nd found only in veda nd zend avesta. It has nothing to do with Europeans nd other groups.
@@HistorywithCy yes migration was sure from a cold mountain place of d indo-aryan language speakers migrated from near iran afganistan to d gangatic valley. But they mixed with each other mutually nd formed a new civilization. Even d dravidian speakers also related with d elamites in iraq but actually their looks r not australoid but they r dark caucasians with new recearch. True dravidian features r only found in specially d toda nd irula tribes. Rest maximum r mixed.
Endogamy ànd the caste systen becomes prevalent in the Steppe culture with the coming of vedic practises in 100AD.
Can you make video about Turkic Bulgars?
This channel mainly focus on Antiquity history, I doubt he will do videos on Medieval history.
Actually that's interesting... I have been pretty much doing primarily more ancient history videos, but I actually love medieval history and want to get to it. The plan originally was to move more or less chronologically through time and eventually work my way up to medieval times. However, at this rate I'll still be stuck in the bronze age for the next 2 years. Therefore, I will be producing videos on medieval history, hopefully starting in spring or early summer... after I do some vids on the Roman Empire. Definitely will be doing a lot on the history of Central Asia and the various Turkic groups...stay tuned!
Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
I didn't know there is such an ethnic group as "turkic Bulgars".Recently it started a wave of a propaganda because of Kubrat, in which todays people of Khazahstan, Tatarstan and oth. are trying to say Bulgars and Bulgarians are ethnically different, something like the father(Kubrat,Hubrat) who was married for a Greek lady is from a different ethnic group from his son(Asparuh,Isper,Isperih) , who was also married for Greek princess.The orygin of Bulgarians needs to be prooved by more artefacts and less foreign political interests, please. It is visibly clear the genes of the Bulgarians(with many old names incl." Balkars" and "Bulgars") are predominantly European, the "mongol" image in Wikipedia is of a 89 years old man with deformed soft tissues and someone incapable or paid did the face reconstruction.
Dessi Marinova
Bulgars and Bulgarians are very different peoples
@@papazataklaattiranimam don't trust Wikipedia so much, I found quite a lot of wrong info inside.People just are jealous sometimes.Sorry, the truth will pop-up, archaeology is blooming.
Indra isn't necessarily the strongest as there is a Hindu trinity as well ( namely Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma), along with Shakti ( a feminine representation of cosmic power, similar to Brahman[Brahman and Brahma are different]) however is considered to be the king of Devas ( which are not exactly gods, same for Asuras as they are not demons nor are they entirely evil)
I like how hindusim blurs the lines of good and evil it makes you think.
@@spacebunny4335 no it's not like that. Hinduism doesn't work on black or white principles. You can see that in not all Devas are good or have done great deeds to be praised whereas Asuras are generally termed as evil but some are praised or worshipped more than Devas for their good deeds. It's your decision and deeds which earns you respect not your birth or power.
@@Amit-mt9ko What I mean by my comment. Is that in Hindusim like in many religions and mythologies the beings (devas, asuras ect) act like people. So they have humans like flaws. This is in contrast to religions like christianity were there are good beings and bad beings and not much in between exept humans.
Indra is the king of the "gods", because he was the one who first discovered that he himself is nothing compared to the all encompassing ultimate will.
So he is the one who essentially discovered that all his victories, defeats were not his in truth, but the bhramans (not bhrama, brahman is different).
Shiva, Bhrama and Vishnu are the forces of the universe,
Gods like indra, agni, vayu are earthly gods, they are the forces of earth, and among them indra is esteemed to be the strongest/leader.
@@cipher8400 yeah, he is the king of the gods as in the devas. But I wasn't talking about that. I was referring to his strength so to say. As the Trinity and the Brahman: Shakti duo surpass his abilities.
Who were Idno-European people?
English? German? Greek? Italian? , Russian? ....???
None of those. They were a group of people who originated on the Pontic-Caspian steppe during the Late Neolithic period, and migrated throughout Eurasia and mingled with the local peoples and spread their culture from Ireland to Bengal.
None of those. All those mentioned came AFTER Indo-Europeans and from them
6:24 so this is democracy