Dumbest Magic: The Gathering Thieves
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- Dumbest Magic: The Gathering Thieves
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I had a similar experience during the Battle for Zendikar set. I managed to collect 13 expedition lands from the set and went on vacation with my family. I got a call from my local store on the second day of my vacation only to be informed that my roommate was trying to sell my collection (including all 13 expedition lands). Thankfully I was what some might refer to as a “regular” at said store and they IMMEDIATELY knew that I wouldn’t be selling my collection, nor would I have my scummy roommate sell them for me. They told him it would take a few hours to price all the cards and that they’d need to go to the bank because they didn’t have nearly enough cash on hand. The manager then said that they’d call him when they ready. Well, they put my collection in their safe, called the police and then called scummy roommate to inform him they had his $ ready. Being the dumbass he was, he sped over to the store only to be immediately arrested. I was SUPER GRATEFUL to Mikey and all the employees at CM games in Chattanooga!!!! If anyone from CM games happens to read this, thanks again!
This warms my coldened heart. I'm glad there are LGS's like this out there!
That's funny, I actually live in Chattanooga as well and go to CM Games quite a bit. Are you talking about the one at Northgate Mall?
Eyyyy I lost it when the top comment is about my town. Mikey is the best, I haven't been to CM in a while but always have love for Mikey.
@Sam Yessir, they closed the Gunbarrel location a few years back, but I know Mikey is running the Northgate location these days. I moved away from Chattanooga shortly after Oath of the Gatewatch launched and haven’t been back in a while, but I still occasionally call just to chat with Mike. Amazing store, even better people! I can’t lie, I’ve been to about a dozen stores where I live now and not one comes even remotely close to CM Games. I’m thrilled to hear that others feel the same and I hope for nothing but continuing success and happiness for Mikey and CM Games! Thanks for the replies!
That's insane, glad to hear you were able to recover it and get due justice. I'm curious what their exit strategy was going to be there once you got back and your collection was gone. Like, say someone broke in and stole it or just like move out while you were gone? Not a very bright person its seems lol
A friend of mine was burgled. He had a bag with a $15000 collection in it. The thieves took the bag, but they left the collection.
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Sad he was burglarized but thank goodness they didn’t know what MTG cards are
But then the plot twist, this was a special edition LV bag worth 50k
@@Tacet137 For when you need to flex extra hard on your opponents
Wife and I had a friend house sit while she was in Florida and I was away for military training. This friend played magic with us, and thought we wouldn't notice over $1,500 in cards missing from our collection and DECKS! This person sold the cards to our other friends at FNM while we were away.
WOW, that's a -100 IQ play right there.
what happened? any karma aha
What did you guys do when you found out?
Sounds like a case of drug addiction to me
Jody probably stole more than that
They should have sacrificed the Black Lotus so the Steal Artifact fizzled.
would that mean mean ripping it up haha
@@dylanjohnson6481 And sprinkling the pieces in an actual graveyard
Funny that you mentioned the Mona Lisa, because the main reason it's so famous is because of the media frenzy that occurred after it was stolen from the Louvre in 1911. Before that, most people outside the art community didn't consider the Mona Lisa mysterious or remarkable at all. It was just one of many Da Vinci pieces on display.
Exactly. A lot of criminals or ultra rich would love to have the original Mona Lisa, purely for the Ego trip or infamy in their circle.
Which is exactly why that will indeed happen once again. Matter of time but believe me it will happen.
$3000, what did he steal a playset of Ragavans?
made my day :D
I love the direction you've taken with your channel. While I loved your gameplay as well, this brings something pretty different to the community that you can't get other places. Well done.
Thanks for being around since the gameplay days!
we still get gameplay on alt channel! best of both nikachus
I just found this channel a few weeks ago. I’ve watched almost every video and i know absolutely nothing about MTG. That’s when you know you’ve got good content
@@genericandre9159 Thanks!
@@NikachuMTG 1$ each? Alot are worthless :)
So just keep it in my collection!
The one that stands out to me is the guy stealing the cards, and then selling them right to the game shop down the road. It's like stealing art, and selling it to an art collector who knows the artist.
that is what drugs do to people
My LGS had a black lotus but only put a picture of it on display.
For security, the card was at a different location in a vault (not even the employees know where it's kept).
If someone was interested in buying it, then they would proceed to let the owner know and had a guard nearby.
At first I thought that's a bit overkill, but now I think that's a smart move.
Same with my LGS. A Black Lotus was opened during Zendikar as a Treasure. Owner bought it off of him and now has that Lotus in a Secure Location. It's the Mascot of the Store technically.
My favourite dealer in southern Germany just has a highend longbox for cards valued at 200 or more Euros, and there is some serious power in that box. The box is worth probarbly half a million. He has 5 or 6 employees working on his online single card selling, one of them is the grader, and a LGS, and currently 280K cards listed on Cardmarket. The longbox, containing all the highend-stuff double sleeved in toploaders, for all i know just sits in a shelf in a room only senior employees are supposed to enter. What he does have is 100% loyal and trusted employees, and a shitload of security cameras, obvious and hidden. No safe or vault to my knowledge. MTG tournaments are held just two doors and 5 meters from the valuables.
The awesome thing is i have access to a professional grader, he does not slab cards, he grades for sales on Cardmarket and Ebay, and he is ultra strict and extremely knowledgeable. Raw cards remain raw, but he can tell you precisely how different grading companies would grade the card and why, including subgrades. Prices on the singles are rather high, but i know how strict their grading is. Just in the process of picking up an International Edition Black Lotus from them, they listed it as nearmint but i know its pristine except for the tiniest fingernail mark on the back near the lower left corner. Not playable at all, but getting International Edition or Collectors Edition with perfect corners and near-perfect edges is rare. The only thing that annoys me, is that when i tell him "I think i am considering buying this card" he immediately sends it to me, with an invoice. But i always pay and keep the card.
My lgs doesn’t have a black lotus but they do have an alpha time walk and they give it a very similar treatment.
First thing is that you let the potential buyer put all the money on the table or validate the credit card ... then you can go over to show the card.
@@blakemamba2067 A nearby LGS just moved to a different location, and now they do display real highend power cards, like a Beta Time Walk. Its in a large display case, and you need to get past two security cameras to get there, and more cameras film the display case. Its all state of the art. Real-time alerts, live feeds, real-time cloud mirroring, all the fancy stuff.
I really think the black lotus was stolen for someone. By that I mean someone wanted that card for a personal collection so they either stole it themselves or for a buyer who was willing to pay big
He knew exactly what that lotus was. And stole it just to eat it.
Same thought, it was an order, otherwise like nikachu sad, you couldn’t sell it…
That was my thought as well. There were only 2 possibilities in my mind. He either wants it for himself or he sold it off to a high bidder who wants to own this unique card and has no intention of ever showing it to anyone outside of a trusted circle. Dude probably got paid for it or is an obsessed collector. That's the only thing that makes sense.
I thought that as well when the Mona Lisa comparison was brought up as thats what usually happens with mega-high priced art - someone commissions the thieves to get certain items at a art museum, they break in, then give it said person and receive their fee.
From the comments, looks like the guy hasnt recovered his double signed Lotus. That really sucks.
@@davidgreenhough1651 goddamn lotus eatets
The same thing happens in the art and antiquities market. One of a kind items are almost impossible to sell. Unfortunately though, there are still black markets and private collectors willing to purchase and hide away these stolen items in their personal collections. Chances are it won't ever re-surface.
Kinda begs the question: Is there some sort of collector out there rich enough to not just buy that one-of-a-kind Black Lotus? "Rich enough" is not just "can afford it" but also has to be "can afford to NEVER need to sell it".
If there is, though: it'd be a terrible kind of cool. Cool that Magic: the Gathering has achieved art and anitquities status; but also terrible that it'd be worth stealing and hiding away forever.
@@javierpatag3609 I pretty sure there are hundreds of MTG players willing to pay ten thousand dollar for an unsellable Black Lotus
@@jianhaogao7608 Its unsellable but also unusable as the signature goes over the text of the card meaning that it would be visible through the sleeve, so your basically looking at purely collector only status, however that is still a large number of people I would say.
As comforting as the idea of rich collectors hoarding valuable art or cards may be, the reality is that stolen items (especially easily-identifiable ones) are a liability for the thieves. Most theft is opportunistic rather than planned, and even in cases like the Black Lotus you'll often find they don't know much about the thing they are stealing... they just know it's "valuable". The sad truth is that being "one of a kind" becomes a problem that's often solved by altering/damaging the card to disguise it to sell (best case scenario)... in the worst case, it's thrown out or destroyed.
It wouldn't surprise me if we find out the black lotus thief panicked and destroyed the black lotus because of all the attention he has created, thinking he could destroy the evidence. A little bit sad because that card is a peace of history.
If I was him I would mail the card back to the store because, you can do it anonymously and it's like saying sorry and the store owner might drop the police report in relief that they got the card back. It would be a crazy story too.
No and no
@@guttyjip why not and why not?
Yea. Chances are he either destroyed it or hid it hoping the heat would die down at some point.
He simply wipes the signatures away trying to sell it as a regular black lotus only to destroy the card like an idiot. This is my guess.
Also he may just have the card framed somewhere for his own pleasure. It's a small world. An art thief who stole 3 mil in art and designer furniture over the years was located only a street away from my Mum's house. All of it just in his garage like a private collection.
Nah. IMO it'll pop up in 20-30 years when he hopes everyones forgotten about it. Might even pop up on a foreign market in 5-10 years.
If I was insurance, I'd be pretty upset at Finch and Sparrow. Their employee handed the customer the card to get a closer look at it. Zero vetting process.
Underrated comment, I'm no insurance specialist but "if" it was for an insurance scam good luck trying to collect that money.
Yeah especially a card that valuable and rare. It should never leave the display case without some sort of "security" in place.
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Anyone can walk into a dealership and test drive a brand new car worth 2-3 times the value of black lotus.
@@Ok_toker69 How is it ridiculous? I think your example is short sighted.
A new car is expected to be test driven to be sold. It also has a GPS tagged unit to quickly locate it if someone were to steal it. Plus you wouldn't be able to register a stolen vehicle. All of that insurance expects.
@@Ok_toker69 The craziest part is that a brand new car is only worth 2-3 Black Lotuses.
I was a regular at a local game store playing MTG. The owner's son (about 14 of age) played as well. I have a solid deck that included a Time Walk. The kid decided to try to steal my deck by hiding it above the refrigerator. Needless to say, we found it and he got roasted hard.
Nikachu, you've taught me so many interesting underlying things that have happened within a game I love so much. From the Drama, to the huge misplays, to the biggest top decks ever, or even like this one with some really dumb thieves, you've always delivered it in a top tier way that keeps me looking for another video I haven't seen yet. 👍
And I'll keep delivering!
The Black Lotus thief may be unblockable, but he isn't indestructible! Should have had haste and flying to catch him quickly! Jokes aside, having your whole collection stolen is one thing, but a double signed Black Lotus is kinda like stabbing at whole community (at least how I see it).
It really is
Unfortunately the thief apparently has shroud.
The black lotus thief must have either destroyed it to erase evidence or sold it a private collector. This is very common in the art world, and i don't see why this would be any different in the MTG community
I have a feeling that someday someone will open an old box that belonged to their great grandad and find it. Because of the time elapsed, they would probably be the legal owner at that point and would be suddenly very rich.
@@bipolarminddroppings That would be funny!
Wouldn't be surprised either way. Most high profile art thefts that usually go "unsolved" is because they can't trace the sale of the work or works because there was already a buyer set up and the heist was essentially commissioned or yeah they destroyed it because it's super rare and would be easy to identify.
@@bipolarminddroppings Nope they wouldn't be the legal owner as far as I know. The rightful owner would still be the store owner or closest living relative. Stealing something then having it for a while doesn't make you the owner of anything.
in the end the double signed Black lotus was what he meant with "some of the cards are Pricless"
I have no idea why and how anybody can have such an audacity to just steal a card like this. i mean this is clearly a piece of mtg gaming history. This card needs to get back to its place.
It belongs in a museum!
Seriously, memes aside, we may be reaching the point when Magic: the Gathering *should really be* in a museum.
@@javierpatag3609 yeah thats true
I’m surprised they don’t ask for an id or phone (or both) to see a card like that. My card shops ask for my id to look at the expensive cards. I know if I had 40,000 I want to make super sure they’re not running out the door with it.
Yeah the fact they did not block the door or ask to hold the person's license is their own fault
40k? are you a time traveller from 2006?
Years ago, Quinton Hoover's copy of "Proposal" got stolen too, despite being the epitome of unique cards, and it never resurfaced.
Sure, he might be never be able to sell it anywhere, unless he's incredibly lucky with a private buyer, but the thief very likely didn't even think about selling it, chances are he's a collector who just plans to sit on it for decades, just for the hell of "having" a BL.
Whether sold privately, kept as a personal "trophy" or destroyed in a panic, most likely we'll never hear about the card again.
I think they should all be flogged for the crimes of stealing people's hard earned collections... however, the bad thing about some of these cases, in particular the recent Black Lotus theft, is that once the theft starts gaining widespread media attention, the thief is very unlikely to come out of hiding with it. Unless they are EXTREMELY idiotic. So in my opinion, it's a double edged sword. You want to let the local MtG community aware of the theft, without the word getting out over news and social media.
could they clean the signatures off?
@@elijahwohlers9945 the ballpoint would be etched into the card. And chris rush’s signature I doubt could be removed without horrifically damaging what’s underneath
And also like, someone turns up with a beta black lotus to sell. “Where did this come from?” And they’ll take a scan and verify it’s not the same card
yeah at this point they're probably more concerned with not getting caught than with getting money off the card bc that's basically impossible now
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Saw the original post of the stolen black lotus on FB, so glad you shed light on this issue!
Imagine being that low stealing magic cards
The time travel story was the best! 🤣
Something similar to the first case in this video happened here long time ago (when first Ravnica block was released). Somebody stole an expensive collection containing playsets of dual lands from a guy who ran a local store. But he was not very smart either. He tried to sell those cards on the mtg auction web visited only by people in my country, and since we are small nation of about 5 million people, some of my friends quickly noticed what's going on. One of them bid, won the auction, and then arranged the meeting to make a trade in person. The thief was very surprised when he noticed that original owner of the cards came to that meeting, too.
Back in the day, there was never an event I went to where someone didn't get their power stolen. Wasn't uncommon to have the poor sap asking to check peoples bags on the way out of venues (I remember a specific sad chap at the Mirrodin pre release who lost his entire set of p9)
Thieves are the worst
Great Video! I especially liked how you went all unsolved mysteries at the end 😝
The sad thing is that the guy can just destroy this unique Black Lotus, having realized that he can't sell it. What's the point of keeping the evidence against yourself in the trade binder?
Had my entire collection stolen a couple of years back and I still haven't come close to rebuilding it. Worst part is I know who did it but the police could not be less interested. They didn't even believe me when I showed them exactly how much I paid for one of my EDH decks.
That really sucks.
Invest in a hitman.
the sooner people realize that cops and insurance companies don't care about us and usually fail to protect us the better. Get cameras and a gun, and learn how to use them.
@@Burger_pants You really don't want to murder someone over magic cards. I get that some cards are worth half a million, but killing someone is going to haunt most people for the rest of their lives.
Back when I was living in PA, the co-owner of one game store in my town walked in one morning like he was opening the store and ended up putting all the HeroClix figures in his car before driving off. Turns out he'd been embezzling the hell out of the store for months, and just went in for one last middle finger to his partner and customer base.
Back in 2016 I had my entire magic card collection stolen when I got up and used the bathroom back when I was a naïve kid. It sucks to have it happen to you. I hope they catch this theif but now it seems unlikely unless the guy is truly stupid.
Great video my friend. I hope they catch the guy who took that lotus. I know it has only been a few weeks but a card that rare isn't going to be able to be sold to just anyone and people with that kind of money that are into magic know about this incident. Don't you think?
This will be very hard to sell. You'll have to trust the buyer wont randomly squeal on you.
I'd had chased that guy with the black lotus out of my shop and to the ends of the world before I'd had just let him run off with a 40k card
Several months ago my local game store, also in Minnesota, maybe 20mins from the one in the video, was robbed but all they managed to steal was some booster boxes. They couldn't break into the singles display. Very sad none the less, so my gf and I bought several commander decks to help out the store
Sucks what happened to Finch and Sparrow, one of my favorite card shops and the owner is super genuine.
These are so entertaining, Nikachu! Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Great video! I would LOVE to see you make again modern opinions and tier lists!
I dont do it as often but I'm relegating that content to my Nikachu MTG News channel. Check it out in my channels tab.
Wow, South St Paul is literally in my neighborhood! Never heard about that until now.
Once played in a FNM where a guy got his card stolen. I can't remember atm what card it was, but it was a valuable one. The thief left before the tournament was over.
Ever since then, I suffer from a mild paranoia whenever someone has to shuffle my deck.
My eyes are then like: "Initializing High-Speed Recording."
My body: "Combat Modus Activated."
I remember when my lgs who had a black lotus and a few other power nine. It was broken into and had over 200k cards stolen. This happened a few years ago and they still haven't caught the dude.
I get so excited every time I see a new video come up on your page!
I think the British Museum would gladly buy that signed Black Lotus.
Are they known for buying stolen goods?
@@regirayquaza Yeah, I don't get that either.
@@regirayquaza Miss a few history lessons?
Just as long as you refer to it as an artifact - they'd be happy.
Seeing Chris Rush’s name brought back some memories. Another card artist was one of my college professors. Never asked him to sign the cards I had cuz it made him feel awkward.
His name is John Matson. He worked for Wizards as a card artist in the late 90’s/early 00’s. Off the top of my head, one of his cards was Gemhide Sliver. Great guy. Real down to earth.
I once got a binder stolen from me. I never saw it again, but I realized that a majority of meta relevant cards in there cost a penny a piece, so… Kinda became easy to replace. Though I need to buy a new binder.
I had a similar experience to the first one. I had left my backpack in the front seat of my car because when I got back from the game store one night it was downpouring so hard I figured I'd leave it in there and in the morning before it gets too hot, bring it in. In the morning my window was smashed out and backpack gone. Now, I only play limited, so the only card of value were some rares of the few most recent drafts, so really the backpack was the most valuable item, and I had worked hard to get matching basics for my draft set, so I text the local game store what happened. Not even a day later my friend from the game store texts me "got your cards, see you for draft night". As it turns out, they went to this game store (one of two in my area) to sell "our son's old cards, he doesn't play anymore" and my friend at the store just said, "I personally know who's cards these are, you can wait for police, or never come through here again, your choice, but I'm keeping the back pack"
There was a theft of mtg near me a while ago. They did the same thing as the first guy but went to another town to try and sell them. I was there when the store owner who was the victim and the store owner who was approached by the thief was taken away by the police.
Had someone steal about $2k worth of magic cards. I drove him 300 miles away from his house and took his shoes. Must’ve sucked to walk.
I go to Finch and Sparrow, and I remember that whole thing coming up. It was practically a manhunt in the MtG community locally, people were not happy.
YES! I needed some Nikachu stories today
When I played magic at Jeff's Cards and Comics in Peterbough Ont in early 2000's I had my binder stolen while I was in the rest room, I was gone two minutes. Was only valued at about 1500, nothing like a double signed black lotus, I knew the owners and whatnot as I ran their Yu-Gi-Oh turnements for the B league. I also worked at the local farmers market selling Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh singles. The theif brought my binder the farmers market to sell; I guess not knowning the binder was mine. My boss called the cops and I pretended to value the binder while we waited. I got my cards back, minus a few singles missing. I assume he sold to friends or kept for himself.
Lucky break! 🍀 honestly though, never leave your valuables unattended. Always take them with you to the washroom or make sure they are under the watch of a trusted friend.
@@NikachuMTG Sadly, it was a case of "I thought I knew everyone in the room" situations. I had a few friends at our table and I didn't even think about theft. I was pretty young and naïve and in PTBO we didn't have a lot of theft. Really, any at all, least not reported. I remember in high school a friend had their binder of cards taken, few slivers and what not. That was about it. We had more Yu-Gi-Oh theft, as the player base was a few years younger with less access to part time jobs and or income.
the playing edge of the black lotus you know that bad boy was played without sleeves for years
Fun fact, my dad sold 6 beta black lotuses in the 90s for a few hundred bucks each and thought he was getting an absurd price for them at the time. If only there was time travel...
The same thing happened to me and my team, a deck of 500 was stolen from us. Unfortunately the shopkeeper accepted the cards from the thief; when after a few weeks we saw our cards for sale in the shop the shopkeeper refused to tell us who had sold them to him.
When I was a kid me and my friend used to get our parents to drop us off at a place in Newark Delaware that had magic tournaments. Long story short, we get home and my friend had a new binder with him. He stole some ones binder full of rare cards. It had every rare you could imagine including alternate artist versions of certain cards. This was in the early 2000s and I felt so freaking bad. I have no idea what happened to that binder but I imagine it would be worth a million dollars today. I feel so bad for the person that had it stolen from them and often think about it.
My favorite deck was stolen, the part that bothered me the most was that I never committed the card list to memory or anything. Still only as far as an approximate recreation but it more or less functions.
I seriously hope they find the “artifact thief”. He may be “unblockable”, but that doesn’t mean he is immune to “lightning blot”.
Maybe the Black Lotus is like that painting from the 3rd Artemis Fowl book, where basically one guy steals it, and he's the "theif of the century" until someone steals the card (and the title) from him.
I used to play there when I lived in St. Paul! Great store. Very knowledgeable staff.
Had someone steal a holiday collector box from the Khans of tarkir set stolen and sold to a pawnshop down the road. Worst part was my name was signed on the box, went to the shop when I found out and called the police when the owner refused to hand over the box. The police involved said it was stupid it was just toys and I was told to leave. I lost over $700 worth of cards because of that and eventually the shop was closed due to the guy repeatedly buying stolen property.
gotta love crooked pawn shops, we had one that was bootlegging Xbox games and DVDs and stuff, they had a 24 hour return policy, I was kicked out for returning a fairly expensive new PS2 game because it sucked, which was why it was sold I imagine. The irony was that they assumed I had copied it as that is what they were doing. (I saw their PS2 once and it was obviously modded for hot-swapping discs.) funny how crooks always assume everyone else is also crooked.
seems kind of sus that they would just hand a customer a Beta Lotus. places that are insured to do that need to buzz you in the door then open the gage.
Not as worthwhile as some of these stories, but I had a card stolen out of my deck once. This was years ago and had a FTV:Legends Ulamog in my tron deck. I was at an FNM and was talking to someone about the deck and they asked to see the cards because they were curious about playing the deck at some point and I said sure (Strike 1). Strike 2 against myself was me putting my stuff away in my bag, so time of opportunity for them to yoink the card. I hadn't noticed it was missing until sometime later that night. I thought it was misplaced or something.
I go back to the game store some months later and see it staring at me in the case. It was still in my gold classic dragonshield sleeve I had the deck in at the time. I couldn't just say hey, that's my ulamog in the case because while I knew the owners, I was not on the grounds of starting shit and having to try to prove to them a card in the case was mine. MF'er sold it to the store for credit or cash. Wasn't his first time doing stuff like that either and he was banned from the store some number of years later.
Still haunts me.
if you still had the deck with the sleeves you easily could have shown it to the owners and gotten it back, I know every LGS owner I have ever played at and If I walked up with a 59 card deck in the same sleeves with an on-theme card missing I would have my card back after about 30 seconds talking to the owners.
Never be afraid to "start something" when you are in the right, chances are, your unwillingness to engage in uncomfortable conversation likely lost you your expensive card, just as much as the thief.
@@Burger_pants At the time, I was still really getting into magic play wise and (at the time) didn't wanna start something with the regulars and potentially the owners. Now I know better.
I definitely know now to start something sooner than later.
Even though he hasn’t been caught yet the guy guy that stole the lotus has to be the dumbest one. Like come on if any magic player so much as see the card you screwed. In his hands it’s essentially worthless and non tournament legal. Unless that guy knows some pretty shady people he will never see profit from it. Hopefully he doesn’t trash the card knowing that he can’t do anything with it.
I'd buy it 10k no questions asked, no police. The store got the insurance money, and I'd have an affordable collection peice. Win win
I'm almost positive that guy had a private buyer waiting. Even if that buyer can never show the card to anyone outside of a very small circle of trust (if even that), they'd still be willing to fork over big money for it. It's a one of a kind card from an extremely popular game. Collector's jizz over that sort of thing. If he didn't have a private buyer waiting, then he took it for himself and he's the crazed collector who wants to own it, just because it's one of a kind. Not being able to show it to anyone doesn't stop that from happening. It's weird as hell, but then again, people are weird as hell.
My car was stolen with my most expensive deck in the glove box. It was a sad day, since in addition to losing my car I had exchanged pretty much all my good cards to get the deck together and had no money left. I ended up stopping playing paper after it, except for limited :/
Had my backpack stolen during a draft at Gen Con 2011.
I was really sad, it was a Microsoft-branded backpack my dad gave me after a business meeting, and had a copy of the Resident Evil deck building game and my lunch in it. :(
I had no Magic cards in it. :/
I had my entire Myr deck stolen at school with one prereleased Sword of Kaldra, one prereleased Shield of Kaldra and one prerelease Helmet of Kaldra. Devastated me so much because it took a bit for me to get the prereleased cards. After that, my friends and I turned to EDH (commander before it was called that) and legacy decks (I specifically ran B/U/W reanimator).
*Edit:* Been really living your content. Haven't played MTG in over 10 years and I find myself wanting to run out and buy some cards to make a deck. Sadly, I probably won't as I sold most of my cards to start a different, expensive hobby
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Wow, the first case is right by where I live. Sadly that store is gone now, but at least it was replaced with a different LGS.
My FLGS has a revised lotus on display…..punctured right through the middle on a pin. The card was purchased extremely damaged. Whenever people say they haven’t even been seen a lotus in person, they’re always happy to whip it out and make people cringe.
Really miss level up games, there is a new store there now, but level up had so much going on as far as rare video games an arcade area and huge play area.
Got a small story from several years ago about a MTG card thief. Basically, he was hired to work at a card shop (he had a key). One night he took all the MTG cards and never came back. The next morning, the owner came in to find all the MTG cards missing and immediately checked the tapes, then called the cops as soon as he knew he had proof. They have cameras at this store so luckily they were able to catch the perpetrator. The police knew who he was cuz, like I said earlier, he worked at the store. So they got an easy warrant to search the guy's place (along with arresting him). Unfortunately, the cards were either already hidden away or sold off (and the money hidden) by the time police got there. To this day, the cards are still not found. I think the guy has at least 5-15 more years of jailtime before he can (theoretically) reap his rewards, wherever they are.
what a -150 IQ move
Based on years of research (I used to watch Pawn Stars) if the stolen Black Lotus was claimed on insurance, then the new owner should be considered legitimate, and free of any crime. (ie receiving stolen goods)
The dude who stole it is still in a lot of trouble... but the card wouldn't be returned to the original owner if they had already been paid out by insurance.
I believe insurance company would have claim against it.
That last guy could probably get away with using alcohol to dissolve at least one of the signatures and sell it as a regular unsigned black lotus.
I'm surprised you didn't cover the multi-store card robber that went through Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, and Texas. Dude stole roughly $100,000 in cards and tried to off load everything in Texas.
At first I was going to cover it because I thought it connected the robbery of Realms Games, but the guy you mentioned robbed Realms of Gaming (which is a totally different store). I scrapped the footage (making this vid a bit shorter than I wanted) but I will address that in another thieves video.
@@NikachuMTG I look forward to it. They hit one of my friends stores on their way through Kansas, and one of my LGS's O.G. location. It was a crazy couple days with all that happening. I do know of one store he didn't go in because the owner had it on camera and he was working late that night, but also he is armed at all times....so it's probably for the best that he didn't go to that location.
@@travisrose7164 I think he hit my LGS, They lost all their MTG pokemon and Dragonball product about a year ago and noone ever caught the guys. happened about 2 hours west of St louis Missouri.
You crack me up. I’m a freshly minted beginner. Trying to learn to play. Love your channel.
Thing about the last crime with the black lotus, before lockdown and covid someone walking up wearing a face mask would have seemed strange but during it seemed so normal. I really hope they find the card and get it back, it’s such a shame there’s people out there stealing unique one of a kind items.
Nikachu can you put tarmogoyf in merfolk if its blue green? If so what would you take out? Thanks
I've done it before! You can probably take out some tempo card or a lord, or removal.
Back in high school I used to play magic with a bunch of kids during free time.. one day at the end of the session i left my binder in the library where we played while I went to the bathroom and when I came back it was gone.. I asked everyone about it but of course got no answers.. I eventually went to the office who checked the cameras and discovered it was a kid named Ben.. they called him to the office and they asked him about it and he denied everything until they showed him the footage from the library and of him stashing it in his locker after free time.. I forgave him and told everyone else I had just misplaced it in the library and found it after double checking the area.. 3 months later and it turns out he was caught red handed by another one of the kids from our play group stealing a video game from his house.. After learning this I went ahead and revealed to everyone that I hadn’t lost my binder but it was Ben who got caught with it.. We shunned him after that and he never got to enjoy our 45 min of Daily Magic Pleasure ever again..
I live in the St Paul area....AND I'VE BEEN TO THAT STORE!!! Funny part is that this isn't involving me, when I had someone steal TWO Black Lotuses, 1 Library of Alexandria, and 3 different Moxen to only be able to sell them for their own profit and I've yet to find him since then. So knowing the same bs went down at a store I've been to?? Next Level Magic Shenanigans.
Which to give it more context, I bought both of my Lotuses at $750 a piece, so shows the time but still complete dick move by the dude.
To be fair, if you steal the Mona Lisa, you most certainly have an exit strategy
I live in St. Paul and am a player of magic, I’ve never heard of this happening. Only wish I could have seen it on tv
I had a alpha chaos orb I got 20yrs ago, it went missing about 10yrs ago and idk why it was beyond obvious which of my friend it was, but it wasn’t worth much (maybe 3-$400max then) and didn’t even notice it was gone for a couple years (stop playing magic was at college) just saw last nights it worth 3-5k+ lol kills me. Even if I confront the guy today it won’t get anymore. He was known for stealing card, money everything above. We caught him many times stealing other cards so good saying it was him.
One time I was playing at my local game store. Some kid came in and asked to look at a binder of some rarer cards. The owner got distracted with another customer and the kid closed the binder and said he was gonna check other places. He came back half an hour later and asked if the shop would be interested in buying one of his rare cards and the owner remembered he had that same card in the binder the kid was looking, opened the binder up and low and behold the card was missing.
I have no interest in playing MTG, but you make it super interesting to watch all your videos! Keep up the great content!
Thanks, I will!
That Level Up Games looked like they had some decent stuff, at least at the time of that video.
Somebody stole all of my most valuable Magic cards including multiple alphas of Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, and several moxes among others. It’s a devastating feeling.
Here in Singapore, we have even dumber thieves. Just last week, 2 military conscripts got caught stealing Pokémon cards sealed worth sgd $980. Those cards were sealed and they were stealing first from a mall, followed by 3 separate times at the airport mall’s Pokémon center. Dumbest thing, the Pokémon center were manned by the same staff those 3 occasions.
Glad he got his cards back.
Got my cards stolen and nothing from the stores or cops.
1st story was local … this is several years old … Bylander’s shop and Level Up SSP have been closed for probably 3 years
LMAOOOOO I lost it at "Steal Artifact"
The signature can easily be scraped off and the card sold, no problem. The thieves outsmarted you big time, Nikachu.
shhh dont tell the thieves
Ya but wouldn't the red pen signature have some impression? Gold sig easily scraped, anyone buying a 30k+ card is going to finely inspect it though and you'd think the red pen left an impression. Looks like a ballpoint pen
@@slowkugaming4945 , you just put a signature on some other cheap old cards and practice removing it from them first, until you’re ready to remove it nice and properly on the lotus.
Sorry, but it’s actually not too difficult to get away with, and a broken lotus is still worth more than 30k.
I had a deck that was reliably getting to at least semifinals in tournaments back during kamigawa block, but at the game store it was stolen while I wasn't paying attention to it for a moment. Bunch of rare cards in that deck...
I've tried to get back in to MTG since, and made more decks, but ultimately, I just kinda stopped playing...
Sorry, it’s a tough loss
I can't remember the name, but there was an NFL player that got a backpack stolen that had quite a bit in it. Multiple Commander decks multiple legacy decks. I remember the collection was worth around 25k
Cassius Marsh
My cards were stolen in the 90's... It made me so sick i only just got over it around khaldheim now i am hooked again! Lol! My only consolation is my dual-lands were all below NM except maybe three or four... I had a whole set of esper with red green and blue greensets and a few others it pains me to recall... Anyways it was a quarter million collection not the millions i was imagining lol so i can bear to play again...
Great video my friend. Catch ya on the flippity!
You know it!
So a few buddies of mine and i were in a car crash, while we were passed out in the car people stole our bags.. My binders and all my decks were in there.. About a week later we were still in the hospital when the manager at our LGS phoned me to let me know they had caught two sketchy looking to sell a collection and it was mine.. Man cried real tears that day, my collection was built up over the last 10 years of play and i thought I'd lost it all
you got lucky twice!
The difference between stealing the double signed Lotus and the Mona Lisa is that eventually people will have forgotten about the card being stolen, even if it is 10 years from now, and he will be much more able to find a buyer who has no idea of the background, one would think.
He’s probably going to do what I do with my reserved list cards. Open his binder and stare at it. 😂
I'm happy people were looking out for Jeremy
For that last guy, i'm pretty sure he could get away safely selling it on one of those anonymous darknet marketplaces. Heck, he probably already did.
I need that steel artifact art in my life
Man i got a friend who has a card shop and they enter and steal over 40k In cards. Thankfully the island is small and manage to find some cards, but the rarest were never found
Apparently some player somewhere has this thing on their wall in their home. I mean this double signed black lotus is beautiful and like the Mona Lisa while you cant sell it or play with it, you still very much can enjoy it. If I had it, that is where it would be. Like art stolen during WW2, good luck finding it until someone unknowingly tries to sell it. I bet in the end someone's mother tosses it sadly in the trash.