The Railway Series #22 Thomas & Friends: Tit for Tat ~ Mike's Whistle ~ Useful Railway "Never Overlook a Little Engine" instrumental music by UpsideNow
@@darkknight5541 I wasn't surprised either. It's just so intrusive and unnecessary. Where's Oliver, Donald or Douglas? Thomas should be on *HIS* branch line, not someone else's like the selfish prick he is.
I am so glad that you tackled small Railway engines as I was shocked to see these stories adapted for CGI and at the same time Andrew Brenner and his team did a great job adapting these stories. Beautiful work on this video
@@rayvenkman2087 And let’s not forget about the Culdee Fell Railway stories, Thomas and the Swan, Birdstrike, Thomas and the Twins stories, and that time when Thomas went to the National Railway Museum.
There’s another difference that you forgot. It’s how Willie realised that he was running late. In the book, he was startled by Rex’s whistle, but in the episode, he checked the time on his watch.
I was pretty much 100% sure you would skip this book, but how about that. Talk about a great video to wake up to on thanksgiving Sunday. Happy thanksgiving fellow Canadians!
In the book the small railway passenger coaches appear to have embedded faces similar to Annie and Clarabel, the Skarloey railway narrow gauge coaches, the Culdee Fell mountain railway coaches and Duck's GWR slip coaches. But they don't appear to have faces at all in the small railway episodes.
1:48 The Little Western was built under government order in 1916, but only ran skeletal services after the mines closed in 1946. From then until it was relaid in 1964 it ran only skeletal services. No engines were known to work the line regularly at that point but it is likely that several engines were trialed on the line upon its opening and were likely called up as needed.
One Very Minor Thing : The Clergymen's Car In The Railway Series Had The Shape Of A BMC ADO16 But In The TV Series, It Had A Shape Of A Generic Saloon Which Lacks The Thick C Pillar
He mentions that episode in the video Mike. You should know since I ASSUME you actually watched the whole video before commenting. Just go back to working on the Arsdale Railway Mike ;)
Awesome. Been ages since I read the book...and I've only watched the episodes once, but thanks for pointing out the differences. ...I know for one, Thomas wasn't in the book, when I wanted him to be. ...And I'm surprised you still used Willie Rushton's recordings, for the CGI.
Pretty neat how good Willie's narrations sync up to the CGI mouths talking. Wonder if they used his narrations as dialogue reference or just a happy coincidence?
QUICK THEORY: Mike said that with his red paint he looks like a pillar box, which are used to collect mail So what about a story where Mike gets to run a small railway mail train? Like Percy, but in a much smaller scale and covering just a portion of the Island (the Arlesdale Railway) I mean just think about it, mail has to be collected in trucks and we know that Mike likes working with trucks much more than coaches so overall I think it would be fitting enough
Something I want to point out, was that in the CGI series the small railway engines wheels are painted as their matching colours. Furthermore in the episode the 2 clergymen were driving their car on the other side of the railway track 5:25.
This is good. I did wonder whether you would cover this book because the stories were adapted in the CGI era, but it actually makes for a more interesting comparison.
If I had the money, I would buy the rights to Thomas and redo the entire series. Starting with new stories of when Thomas and Edward finished building the North Western Railway, and adapting all of the stories from the books in chronological order. I would also go back to using models and not CGI.
I wonder what Christopher thinks of this adaptation? Also, I can understand why this didn’t happen until the CGI era. These stories would, admittedly, be difficult (but not impossible) with models.
Perhaps adapting them during the hit era with the larger skarloey engine redesigns from S5 onwards could have been pulled off? The models could have been Narrow gauge sized?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral possibly, You know it’s understandable why adapting these stories/characters would’ve been hard, but characters like Wilbert, 16, Pip and Emma, Bear, and D199 would’ve been easy to make in comparison!
Today with the advancement in model railroad technology it could be done, but it would have been too hard in the classic series. It was hard enough for the Skarloey Railway in season 4.
@@charlessapp1835 Hit Entertainment probably could have pulled it off had they acknowledged Duck beyond a cameo in Navigation and the Scottish twins in Gordon And The Mechanic but given they tended to misunderstand the characters aside from a few such as Duncan and Peter Sam, probably the best they didnt waste their money on the model creation for them
In faulty whistles, (which is the loose adaptation of Mike's Whistle) Duck is replaced with Peter Sam, except Peter Sam loses his whistle, because it gets knocked off by a low hanging branch. In the end of the episode of the application of Mike's Whistle, Duck's whistle is finally cleared out and the small controller doesn't appear for the rest of the episode, and he also doesn't scold Mike at all.
I had recently discovered that in the CGI series the Thin Clergymen aka Rev.W.Awdry was voiced by Rob Rackstraw, secretly I would love it if they had Christopher Awdry do the voice instead. Doesn't anybody else agree?
Another thing I had noticed is that in the CGI series episodes the small railway engines each have lamps fitted on the top of their smokeboxes, but in the book they don't appear to have any lamps at all. Come to think of it those photos shown in this videos of the real Ravenglass and Eskdale railway engines aren't fitted with lamps either. Is that really the way they do things on the small railway?
Another difference I think should be worth to point out in 'Mike's Whistle', is that when the author describes Mike's safety valve to 'blow off', he didn't literally mean it broke. My experience in railway terms indicates that, when the boiler's steam pressure builds up at the start of the day, a blast of steam from the safety valve indicates simply that the engine has reached full working pressure to start away. Mike's driver, upon noting this in result of Mike being anger-triggered (though one is left to speculate just how the engine's face can trigger an effect on their boiler), notes that he is the first to be able to leave the shed. While the TV series' perspective is also applicable, I wanted to explain the real intention of the author. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Rex: They're silly, but they're really useful, too! Farmers sell their wool for people to make their clothes from. Ya know, those things that they wear instead off paint.
Another difference I noticed in useful railway is the trucks used to carry the wool as in the original book they are scaled down Bulkhead bogie trucks but in the TV series they were changed to scaled down 7 plank trucks
@@mack_r-s Yep. It would have been Donald or Douglas. However, Oliver still could have been used since he or Duck would be the ones to gather the trucks and get the train ready for Donald or Douglas to haul away.
OMG, the cg whistle blowing off looks so rediculous, while the illustration looks very dramatic. Also, the sequence at the end you did. yeah, that seems about right.
I guess given that they needed to flesh out the characters, maybe that's why they adapted these short stories. Could you imagine if the mountain railways was introduced.
Im see you vídeo "sir handel the purple engines" and ar you realy a color blind or was juts a joke? But from the vídeo im realy like im was waiting from this vídeo and then this...this is realy coll sooooo thanks for the vídeo:)
I prefer the book versions, as Thomas’s TV appearances felt not needed in my personal opinion. Duck and Oliver should have had his scenes in the episodes if you ask me, since they work with The Small Railway Engines.
Well, it kind of seems like they HAD to start including Thomas all the time, what with him being the protagonist. It seems like one of those situations where no one can win.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I know. I'm just saying that Thomas being included into a story he originally wasn't apart of, was likely a decision by Mattel. As this was produced during the post-HIT era.
So if Bert doesn’t get to take photographs for the thinn clerdegy man and the fat clergy man if only of the replaced names the rev ‘awdry and the rev’teddy boston's
If anyone has seen my previous comments about this video, something else that I had wanted to point out was that in the CGI series the 3 small engines are fitted with headlamps on top of their smokeboxes. But they don't have any lamps at all in the book.
More like HO scale. The models for Standard Gauge are in Gauge 1 and the Narrow Gauge models are in Gauge O, so the Small Gauge locomotives should be in HO gauge.
So something funny when I Originally watched this I was questioning why you skipped some books but then realised that Your looking over the episodes that were adapted and some books were not god I felt like a moron
Can I also add to this: In the illustration of ‘useful railway’ the tractor Willy is driving appears to be based on a Fordson (Recognised because of the Blue paint and rims) but in the episode it appears as a Fendt (Dark green with Red rims) I suppose this is because one of the animators preferred Fendt colours over the Fordson ones. Mind you they only bear resemblance to these tractors but aren’t specifically stated due to the fact that they don’t carry their brand names like other tractors do (Terence being another example)
Worst RWS adaptations ever. Mikes Whistle in particular added in a fart joke and stupid bird slapstick. CGI Thomas really doesn’t compare to the classic series. I don’t care what you say is the worst adaptation I think these are the worst adaptations. The only thing worse than these adaptations are some HiT era stinkers, The Absymal Miller Era, The BWBA Era and worst of all that unwatchable reboot.
I don't mind Thomas's addition to Tit For Tat in the episode, since its the only time he gets to directly interact with the man who created him.
Same. The other shoehorns though really ticked me off.
@@RoseSupreme Meh, by that point I'd learned to expect it.
@@darkknight5541 I wasn't surprised either. It's just so intrusive and unnecessary. Where's Oliver, Donald or Douglas? Thomas should be on *HIS* branch line, not someone else's like the selfish prick he is.
In Season 24 episode The Great Little Railway Show, Percy also interact with the man who created him too.
@@RoseSupreme ngl i chuckled when Thomas was imitating duck's whistle
It feels so weird to be reminded that that adaptations were made during season 20.
Coming from a near perfect but amazing season, I'm happy they did that. Even to this day.
@@BriceInkling138 agreed. The adaptations were still very good
@@BriceInkling138 And then....BWBA
I am so glad that you tackled small Railway engines as I was shocked to see these stories adapted for CGI and at the same time Andrew Brenner and his team did a great job adapting these stories. Beautiful work on this video
A shame that they’re the only RWS stories made in the CGI era. Super Rescue would have been great to see on TV.
@@rayvenkman2087 And let’s not forget about the Culdee Fell Railway stories, Thomas and the Swan, Birdstrike, Thomas and the Twins stories, and that time when Thomas went to the National Railway Museum.
@@saltbombcreations8336 Is Thomas in any situation where he is interacting with Bill and Ben under Brenner's time as head writer?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Only if the Els bridge needs repair and Thomas is too heavy for it
There’s another difference that you forgot. It’s how Willie realised that he was running late. In the book, he was startled by Rex’s whistle, but in the episode, he checked the time on his watch.
I was pretty much 100% sure you would skip this book, but how about that. Talk about a great video to wake up to on thanksgiving Sunday. Happy thanksgiving fellow Canadians!
The CGI background looks so much like the book, it's incredible
There were benefits to the cgi
I’m grateful and delighted that they adapted another RWS book after 20+ years.
*Still* wish Bear made it!!!
In the book the small railway passenger coaches appear to have embedded faces similar to Annie and Clarabel, the Skarloey railway narrow gauge coaches, the Culdee Fell mountain railway coaches and Duck's GWR slip coaches. But they don't appear to have faces at all in the small railway episodes.
Well this was certainly an unexpected surprise!
If Wilbert saw these episodes he'd probably say yesn't
So yesn’t means yes not?
@@saltbombcreations8336 yesn't
Bert: I don't wanna be a moving picture in a book! I just wanna stay as I am.
*laughs*
1:48 The Little Western was built under government order in 1916, but only ran skeletal services after the mines closed in 1946. From then until it was relaid in 1964 it ran only skeletal services. No engines were known to work the line regularly at that point but it is likely that several engines were trialed on the line upon its opening and were likely called up as needed.
Around the mid-Sodor
One Very Minor Thing : The Clergymen's Car In The Railway Series Had The Shape Of A BMC ADO16 But In The TV Series, It Had A Shape Of A Generic Saloon Which Lacks The Thick C Pillar
i went to the ravenglass and eskdale railway during the summer. I highly recommend going there
Mike's Whistle is actually the second time an engine looses his whistle in TV series. The first being Faulty Whistles
He mentions that episode in the video Mike. You should know since I ASSUME you actually watched the whole video before commenting. Just go back to working on the Arsdale Railway Mike ;)
Awesome. Been ages since I read the book...and I've only watched the episodes once, but thanks for pointing out the differences. ...I know for one, Thomas wasn't in the book, when I wanted him to be. ...And I'm surprised you still used Willie Rushton's recordings, for the CGI.
Pretty neat how good Willie's narrations sync up to the CGI mouths talking. Wonder if they used his narrations as dialogue reference or just a happy coincidence?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I'm not sure. Finest Cocoa must've done so well.
QUICK THEORY:
Mike said that with his red paint he looks like a pillar box, which are used to collect mail
So what about a story where Mike gets to run a small railway mail train? Like Percy, but in a much smaller scale and covering just a portion of the Island (the Arlesdale Railway)
I mean just think about it, mail has to be collected in trucks and we know that Mike likes working with trucks much more than coaches so overall I think it would be fitting enough
Something I want to point out, was that in the CGI series the small railway engines wheels are painted as their matching colours. Furthermore in the episode the 2 clergymen were driving their car on the other side of the railway track 5:25.
Verra wee engines brung yon ballast doun fra rhe hills.
Would I be correct in assuming that the “verra wee engines” must be some kind of magic?
This is good. I did wonder whether you would cover this book because the stories were adapted in the CGI era, but it actually makes for a more interesting comparison.
This is why I long to help save Thomas and make it great again someday if Mattel goes bankrupt.
If I had the money, I would buy the rights to Thomas and redo the entire series. Starting with new stories of when Thomas and Edward finished building the North Western Railway, and adapting all of the stories from the books in chronological order. I would also go back to using models and not CGI.
Never will ever happen.
That was so cool they put tit for tat mikes whistle useful railway in season 20 cgi era
Well done i’ve been thinking to myself how is it gonna fit it all together and now you finally bring it out and you’ve answered my question!
Thank you for making this video, and all of these comparisons, thank you for all of it
Finally, I was wondering when you'll get to that book and it's episodes based on that.
Yay! They're finally here!
I wonder what Christopher thinks of this adaptation?
Also, I can understand why this didn’t happen until the CGI era. These stories would, admittedly, be difficult (but not impossible) with models.
Perhaps adapting them during the hit era with the larger skarloey engine redesigns from S5 onwards could have been pulled off? The models could have been Narrow gauge sized?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral possibly,
You know it’s understandable why adapting these stories/characters would’ve been hard, but characters like Wilbert, 16, Pip and Emma, Bear, and D199 would’ve been easy to make in comparison!
Today with the advancement in model railroad technology it could be done, but it would have been too hard in the classic series. It was hard enough for the Skarloey Railway in season 4.
@@charlessapp1835 Hit Entertainment probably could have pulled it off had they acknowledged Duck beyond a cameo in Navigation and the Scottish twins in Gordon And The Mechanic but given they tended to misunderstand the characters aside from a few such as Duncan and Peter Sam, probably the best they didnt waste their money on the model creation for them
Thats a good question! I'd love to know what Christopher Awdry thought of the adaptations
In faulty whistles, (which is the loose adaptation of Mike's Whistle) Duck is replaced with Peter Sam, except Peter Sam loses his whistle, because it gets knocked off by a low hanging branch. In the end of the episode of the application of Mike's Whistle, Duck's whistle is finally cleared out and the small controller doesn't appear for the rest of the episode, and he also doesn't scold Mike at all.
Also, Mike is replaced with Duncan.
@@ciarangleeson2880 I know
That ending was amazing-
I had recently discovered that in the CGI series the Thin Clergymen aka Rev.W.Awdry was voiced by Rob Rackstraw, secretly I would love it if they had Christopher Awdry do the voice instead. Doesn't anybody else agree?
That would be interesting to watch.
@@robertrowley4929 Yeah it definitely would. I'd like that very much.
@@robertrowley4929 and maybe have Brian Sibley as the voice for Teddy Boston aka the Fat Clegryman.
@@joelcartagena953 I wouldn’t say no to that 😉
@@robertrowley4929 Brian Sibley is the Rev.W.Awdry's biographer. He had been a part of The Thomas The Tank Engine Man documentary.
Another thing I had noticed is that in the CGI series episodes the small railway engines each have lamps fitted on the top of their smokeboxes, but in the book they don't appear to have any lamps at all. Come to think of it those photos shown in this videos of the real Ravenglass and Eskdale railway engines aren't fitted with lamps either. Is that really the way they do things on the small railway?
Another difference I think should be worth to point out in 'Mike's Whistle', is that when the author describes Mike's safety valve to 'blow off', he didn't literally mean it broke. My experience in railway terms indicates that, when the boiler's steam pressure builds up at the start of the day, a blast of steam from the safety valve indicates simply that the engine has reached full working pressure to start away. Mike's driver, upon noting this in result of Mike being anger-triggered (though one is left to speculate just how the engine's face can trigger an effect on their boiler), notes that he is the first to be able to leave the shed. While the TV series' perspective is also applicable, I wanted to explain the real intention of the author. Regards, Samuel Farris.
The unlucky tug really likes the movie these engines were introduced in.
Rex: They're silly, but they're really useful, too! Farmers sell their wool for people to make their clothes from. Ya know, those things that they wear instead off paint.
This…
Is the finest cocoa.
I love those little engines.
NEVER OVERLOOK A LITTLE ENGINE
Another difference I noticed in useful railway is the trucks used to carry the wool as in the original book they are scaled down Bulkhead bogie trucks but in the TV series they were changed to scaled down 7 plank trucks
Final scene: gold
I was hoping you do this video!
Also, I think in Mike’s Whistle, instead of Thomas, it would’ve been better if Oliver was used
Or maybe Donald or Dougles. After all, in the book they were the ones who told the other engines about the wee engines.
Though of course they needed Thomas in every episode, so that couldn’t happen unfortunately.
@@mack_r-s They would make more sense
@@mack_r-s Yep. It would have been Donald or Douglas. However, Oliver still could have been used since he or Duck would be the ones to gather the trucks and get the train ready for Donald or Douglas to haul away.
It was a sort of unwritten rule by that stage that Thomas HAD to make an appearance in every episode, or almost every episode.
OMG, the cg whistle blowing off looks so rediculous, while the illustration looks very dramatic. Also, the sequence at the end you did. yeah, that seems about right.
I guess given that they needed to flesh out the characters, maybe that's why they adapted these short stories. Could you imagine if the mountain railways was introduced.
They mentioned Culdee Fell in a DVD extra for Blue Mountain Mystery.
Great job and I’ve enjoyed it. Thanks for accepting my request for this one that I’ve been hoping to see someday Jeffrey:)
They could’ve been adapted for Series 3 but they weren’t due to budget reasons and the popularity of Thomas as well as utilizing other characters.
They probably wouldn't have been made because of their small size. They had a hard enough time making the larger Skarloey Railway in season 4 work.
Best episode yet
FINALLY ITS HERE :D
I was expecting you to go to the cgi era after the last one
Can you do differences between The Adventure Begins? Also it is not fully adapted because Series 5 onwards just has filler episodes.
its was pretty sad they weren't able to get frank and jock to be in the cgi show
Don’t forget Sigrid and The Blisters.
Awdry being canon in both universes means that we as Thomas fans are canon.
Whoa. That’s mind boggling.
Mike: Whistles are important. Engines without whistles aren't proper engines at all!
Rex: Mike, do you know what I’d do if I had a whistle like yours? I’d lose it.
Can you do differences between The Adventure Begins?
0:58 is James afraid of his own creator? Because it looks like his face says it all.
He’s scared cuz at any point he could be written out go through a crash or be painted blue
11:03 They’re Rams Jeffery.
Some breeds of sheep have horns. Regardless how the illustrator drew them - the author says "Mike had trouble with sheep"
@@TheFinestCocoa i see.
Hey at least awdry is actually in the cgi episode of tit for tat
5:50 That’s hilarious!
Im see you vídeo "sir handel the purple engines" and ar you realy a color blind or was juts a joke? But from the vídeo im realy like im was waiting from this vídeo and then this...this is realy coll sooooo thanks for the vídeo:)
Didn't see that one coming.
It might be Shane the tractor from the extended railway series
Yeah that was where he came from.
I prefer the book versions, as Thomas’s TV appearances felt not needed in my personal opinion. Duck and Oliver should have had his scenes in the episodes if you ask me, since they work with The Small Railway Engines.
At least Thomas interacts with the Thin and Fat Clergymen in Tit for Tat. Be happy the book was adapted for the show.
I take it that Thomas' appearance was likely Mattel's decision, instead of Andrew Brenner.
Well, it kind of seems like they HAD to start including Thomas all the time, what with him being the protagonist. It seems like one of those situations where no one can win.
@@supermariof0521 Let's not leap to conclusions. Not every day a character interacts with his/her creator.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I know. I'm just saying that Thomas being included into a story he originally wasn't apart of, was likely a decision by Mattel. As this was produced during the post-HIT era.
So if Bert doesn’t get to take photographs for the thinn clerdegy man and the fat clergy man if only of the replaced names the rev ‘awdry and the rev’teddy boston's
Thank you for my request coco
never overlook a little engine
Never overlook a little engine
Stop spamming comments
Doesn’t Thomas’s carven accident in the movie seem similar to the Lindal railway accident (the real-life event for down the mine)?
Do you mean cavern
@@whovianhistorybuff Yes
Why did the engines get color wheels instead of black wheels
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What is your overall opinion on the Andrew Brenner seasons as a whole?
He said in his Q&A that he hasn’t seen all of them, due to not being a fan of Thomas these days, but the writing did get better in his opinion.
@@josephmarrison4606 Ah I see. Its been a while since I saw that Q&A.
If anyone has seen my previous comments about this video, something else that I had wanted to point out was that in the CGI series the 3 small engines are fitted with headlamps on top of their smokeboxes. But they don't have any lamps at all in the book.
@@supermariof0521 it's a shame the other small railway engines weren't in the CGI series you know.
Thomas: sorry rev
CGI like the adventure begins
and...?
I know what is the thin and fat guys is wilbert and his fellow
Wow and cool bert is a 0-8-2 steam engine Rex and Mike is a 2-8-2 Mikado
Haven’t you heard of what happened to Duncan? Mike
Imagion if the Arlesdale Engines were in the Model Era about 4 season like there were N scale
More like HO scale. The models for Standard Gauge are in Gauge 1 and the Narrow Gauge models are in Gauge O, so the Small Gauge locomotives should be in HO gauge.
@@user-ix6dm6tu4fI would pay top dollar for that.
So something funny when I Originally watched this I was questioning why you skipped some books but then realised that Your looking over the episodes that were adapted and some books were not god I felt like a moron
What did Christopher have to say about this
Happy.
Speaking of him I really would love it if he was the voice of the Thin Clergymen aka Rev.W.Awdry in the CGI episodes.
5:54 Where’s that footage from?
Laurel & Hardy.
Can I also add to this:
In the illustration of ‘useful railway’ the tractor Willy is driving appears to be based on a Fordson (Recognised because of the Blue paint and rims) but in the episode it appears as a Fendt (Dark green with Red rims) I suppose this is because one of the animators preferred Fendt colours over the Fordson ones. Mind you they only bear resemblance to these tractors but aren’t specifically stated due to the fact that they don’t carry their brand names like other tractors do (Terence being another example)
Ballast wasn’t adapted
Because of "Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure".
Isn’t a special also a movie?
Cool in cgi
Ravenglass & Eskdale railway
what about it?
Wait the tractor has a face
FINALLLY!
Huh neat
50 years
Bet you didn't think you would get into cgi,now did you?
So what is Duncan doing here
WOW
Andrew Benner
What does “verra wee” mean in English?
Wee is a slang word for little or small "verra wee engines" means very small engines.
Just try reading the book The Twin Engines for the first time and not get stuck trying to pronounce Donald and Dougles’ Scottish mumbo jumbo.
Verra wee would be Scots for very small. Not slag as some ignoramus here claims
Very small
Why just upload a Geoffrey Kitsch video?
Jeffrey, not Geoffrey.
Whats with postman pat
5:50 and 5:59 what is that from?
Laurel & Hardy.
Perkins
um what?
Worst RWS adaptations ever. Mikes Whistle in particular added in a fart joke and stupid bird slapstick. CGI Thomas really doesn’t compare to the classic series. I don’t care what you say is the worst adaptation I think these are the worst adaptations. The only thing worse than these adaptations are some HiT era stinkers, The Absymal Miller Era, The BWBA Era and worst of all that unwatchable reboot.
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