Dante's Inferno (1911) - One Hell of a Film
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- L'INFERNO (DANTE'S INFERNO) is the first feature film made in Italy, and is a relatively faithful adaptation of INFERNO, the first canticle of the 14th century epic poem THE DIVINE COMEDY, written by Dante Alighieri. The film, like the poem, follows Dante as he is guided by Roman poet Virgil through the nine circles of Hell during his holy mission to reach God.
This video study examines the film's relationship to the source material and its place in film history. We also take a closer look at Christianity's relationship to controversial subject matter.
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Clips:
► DANTE'S INFERNO. (2010). Dir. Jonathan Knight and Stephen Barry.
► THE HOUSE THAT JACK BUILT. (2018). Dir. Lars von Trier.
► L'INFERNO. (1911). Dir. Francesco Bertolini, Adolfo Padovan, and Giuseppe De Liguoro.
► "L'Inferno." (1911). Dir. Giuseppe Berardi and Arturo Busnengo.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
01:19 - What the Hell?
05:15 - Adapting Dante
07:18 - Into the Inferno
11:19 - Homosexuality
12:24 - Suicide
13:51 - The Prophet and Islam
17:54 - Dante's Narcissism
19:12 - Conclusion
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Love this period in italian cinema. Lots of impressive adaptations were made in the late 1900s and early 1910s by italian directors, stuff like Cabiria, Quo Vadis, The Fall of Troy and of course L'Inferno. I think they deserve as much credit for shaping the epic film as Griffith, bc despite not presenting new formal ideas like crosscutting, the italian epics were the first to prove that films could express levels of visual magnitude way beyond the stage like theater. Great video as always
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To me silent films are some of the best films ever made . Some of the modern indie and “ art” films are disguised as masterpieces but they seem phony and shallow in storytelling . DW Griffith, Eric von stroheim , Chaplin, George Melies are some of the pioneers whose works are not just great but when you watch them you know that every single film of theirs was genuinely 50-60 years ahead of its time . What an era that was!!
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I remember this movie from your video about horror movies that many might not have seen, beautiful movie, it's hard for me to believe that this movie is 100 years old, and I wonder if the original negatives are still survive, I would be glad to see it re-released in high definition
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I can't believe this story doesn't have more film adaptations
there's Clerks and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Great video
Interestingly enough, in the sabbione, the area where homosexuality Is punished, Dante meets his grammatic teacher Brunetto Latini, and toghether they discuss about the value of literature. Latini Is the only soul in the inferno not expicitely condemned by Dante's work, considering how the Divine Comedy Is inspired by Latini's "tesoretto". It May Be because of Dante's deep appreciacion for his teacher.
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Your point on homosexuality is actually somewhat incomplete (though I'm sure that's at least partly due to the constraints of being one part of a 20 minute video). While I don't think that homophobia is good or that it is consistent with what I would consider to be Christian values, I think a lot of people are too quick to overapply certain interpretations to avoid the challenging and sometimes fucked up parts of the Bible.
The pederasty argument has gotten pretty popular these days, and it does a good job of explaining apparent homophobia in the New Testament, and especially the Pauline Epistles. But the Biblical basis for homophobia draws from all throughout the text and from parts that were written, redacted, and edited at various times and in various cultural contexts. Pederasty isn't really the easy panacea to Biblical homophobia it's often portrayed as being. It especially fails as a response to arguments based on seeing non-reproductive sex as sinful lust. There is a fairly well-supported Biblical argument (though one I disagree with) that the purpose of sex is to "be fruitful and multiply" and that sex for pleasure is the sin of lust. While this idea obviously has its roots in a common interpretation of the Eden story in Genesis, support for it can be found throughout the Bible and even in the teaching of Jesus (depending on your interpretation of the relevant passages). Seeing as how most homophobic christians would likely deny the reality of trans people as well, this would basically rule out gay sex in their eyes (and honestly even if we make allowances for gay couples who have reproductive sex, we'd still be condemning a huge number of gay people if we accepted this argument, not to mention all the straight people who have non-reproductive sex)
On the other hand, many of the core stories used to justify Biblical homophobia have other (often better) interpretations. For instance, I would take your critique of the common interpretation of the story of Lot a step further. The story of Lot isn't primarily about sex at all. It's about hospitality. Various ancient cultures in West Asia and the Mediterranean World had myths emphasising the sacred rules of hospitality. A common motif was that of a god or divine messenger visiting a pious mortal to test their hospitality, and Lot's story in Genesis fits it pretty much perfectly. So for the people of Sodom, lust was the motive for their sin, but breach of hospitality was the sin itself.
Likewise, if we reexamine the Eden story (and the basis for one of the strongest arguments for Biblical homophobia) it becomes clear that the first sin had almost nothing to do with sex. Adam and Eve aren't tempted to sin by sex, nor is lustful sex what gets them in trouble with God. Their sin is disobeying God's command not to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. While they do gain a sense of sexual modesty and shame afterwards, the story is more about rejection of God.
There are serious problems in Christian culture, and the Bible gets used to justify some truly horrific things, but the simple solutions to those problems that often become popular are usually poorly supported arguments that don't apply well to the whole text, weak arguments that don't actually address the evidence for the perspectives they oppose, and a bad hermeneutical and theological practice that lets us off the hook instead of forcing us to seriously confront the challenging and sometimes frankly disturbing text that is the Bible.
When I saw a long comment, I feared it would be about the age of Aisha. Phew. Okay, this one is easy to handle because we are mostly in alignment lol. My point wasn't so much to refute homophobia being present in the Bible, but it being prominent in Inferno and that queerness and the depravity of Sodom of Gomorrah are completely different. I mention the Bible's homophobia is exaggerated because it's stripped from its context. That's not to say there isn't homophobia though. I'm pretty familiar with the "be fruitful and multiply" and chastity and so on and so forth. I was raised Christian and these passages really informed and held back my thinking. The pederasty is in reference to Sodom and Gomorrah (unless I'm mistaken about the historical details? So many sources go pull from). I know there is wayyy more to talk about on the topic but my concern is more to encourage Christians to rethink their relationship with Hell as a concept, queerness, mental health, and Islam. I'd like for passive bigots to look more into this on their own. Funny enough, one of these days, I would like to do a deep dive into every cited reference to homosexuality in the Bible and talk about it. I would also like to talk about the Bible in relationship to transness. One of these days.... No promises though. I do appreciate the comment for the sake of these points being raised for others, though I'm pretty familiar already. Hope you enjoyed the video overall lol. Check out the movie.
@@styleissubstance No Aisha debates here. Sorry for the long comment stress though.
I definitely think we're in agreement about the things that matter here. I also want to see people engaging with Christian scripture, practice, culture, and media more critically, and I'd love it if a more socially conscious version of Christianity became the mainstream version of the religion here in the US.
On pederasty specifically, I think you got some bad information. Pederasty usually comes up in the context of the New Testament. It was practiced in Greece and Rome during the first century, and was a big target for early evangelists like Paul. Looking at the story of Lot more specifically, I can see how you might interpret the attempted rape of angels as a metaphor for pederasty, but it seems like a stretch compared to a more general condemnation of rape and inhospitality. I double checked briefly, and the articles I looked at seem to use other rationales to reject Old Testament homophobia, such as those passages being anti-rape, anti-incest, and so on, and bring up Pederasty specifically in reference to I Corinthians, Timothy, and Romans. You might want to triple check, since I only took a cursory look to confirm.
I'd definitely be interested on your more extended take on this issue, and I wouldn't say no to a discussion of gender modality (though at least to my knowledge, transphobia is far less supported Biblically). Would you do it through a film lens?
I get a lot out of these comments sections, so I'm glad I'm contributing. I definitely enjoyed the video. You make very insightful content and I'm a big fan of the channel.
I might check out the film, although I have the book and I just finished what I was reading, so maybe I'll give the original another read.
@@Salsmachev You're good. I enjoy such comments. I've been interested in the topic for some time and will have to investigate further. I probably wouldn't look at it from a film perspective. I try to avoid apologetic rationalizations (towards Islam as well) though some things can still be learned from newer readings. If you want to re-read Dante's _Inferno_ please check out _Purgatorio_ and _Paradiso_ as well.
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