Phoenix Wright: Spirit of Justice #21 ~ The Magical Turnabout - Trial, Day 1 (8/8)
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Spirit of Justice
The Magical Turnabout
Trial, Day 1
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It is understandable why Retinz resents the other members of the Gramayre Troupe (sans Thalassa and Trucy), but I have no sympathy for him since he killed his apprentice who was genuinely a fan of his magic, unnecessarily taken his anger out on the grandchild of the magician, and threw away his career as a successful television producer down the toilet because he couldn't let go of his 13-year beef with the group.
At no point did Retinz become sympathetic for me in the least. He wanted to screw with no fewer than FIVE people as horribly as he did for increasingly arbitrary reasons. By the time we even learned he's the real Mr. Reus, he's well past the point where his revenge motive could do ANYTHING to explain his shit and he's only revealed to be even worse than what we already saw out of him.
+Elise Leon None of the characters there even know about that.
Mr. Retinz clearly exaggerated his past. as a Master Magician, Magnifi Gramarye was most likely only thinking of putting Retinz on temporary suspension originally, after all It's like what Bonney said Advanced Magic can be very dangerous if not properly perfected so Gramarye suspended Retinz because Retinz's magic tricks, even during rehearsing were getting far too dangerous and could not only destroy valuable equipment, but could also either hurt or kill innocent people in the audience as well as the troupe members, Retinz clearly overacted and chose to give into his own hate at his own peril and destroyed his own dream in the process, so it wasn't Gramarye that ruined Retinz's dream, it was Retinz himself.
His life and dreams were crushed. What he did was unforgivable. I find it cute that Trucy, in a way, made a little Troupe Gramayre of her own :D
Yeah, but as much ad he said that he still defeated them he didnt. Apollo is also a decendent and hes the one that exposed him.
9:12 "If not for that lawyer over there, you would be on your way to prison as we speak !
9:27 "In the end, Troupe Gramarye was defeated by the Great Mr.Reus !"
Somebody wanna tell him the breaking news that Apollo is the grandson of Magnifi, technically making him a Gramarye as well ?
Maybe Lamiroir could...
I was actually thinking that Lamiroir was secretly watching the trial then in the epilogue, she'd go to the detention center to talk with Reus basically telling him : "Oh btw that lawyer who defeated you is my son, joke's on you !"
not only that, but isn't his father in this game some kind of royal figure as well?
Shhhh, so I heard, but I haven't spoiled myself the details of this yet =p
Yeah, I was laughing the entire time, PLEASE someone inform him, he deserves the ultimate punishment of knowing how badly he lost.
If only he knew Apollo is technically a Gramarye.
right
Except the fact that... Apollo born under different dad, not same one with Trucy. Trucy is truly Gramarye while Apollo has different magic name.
True, but consider this. They both share the more relevant parent to being Gramaryes.
Zak, Trucy's father, only joined the Troupe later. Their mutual mom is Magnifi Gramarye's daughter. So they have about the same amount of Gramarye blood in them.
Apollo have 3 names
Apollo justice
Apollo gramarye
Apollo wright
@@AchmadBadra but he's also the adoptive son of derhuke (i don't know how to spell xd) so he kinda also has drhukes last name and the last name of amara.
The mask of his betrayed him, for he betrayed his Mask, bloodying his good name, avenging his true self.
Deep man
makes sense
How about this: *The final mask was actually Manov Mistree taunting him from beyond the grave, that's why there was blood on it.* Of course, if that's true, then this solidifies that breakdown was completely psychological, it's greatly implied in Case 3 that when a person dies their memory cuts off. But Reus doesn't know that, and because it was the position of Manov's fingerprints that served as the final nail in his coffin Reus might interpret it as Manov getting one over on him and mocking him for it. Reus clearly takes solace in thinking outsmarting Trucy is enough revenge towards Magnifi, which as far as he believes, fired him to save face(Rather than for doing something that could hold the Troupe both legally responsible and/or possibly, put a risk to Reus' life by acting rashly, saying anyone thinks Magnifi would've cared for Mr. Reus' life or well being on such a selfless level).
So Reus probably thinks Manov would be the same, Reus is too remorseless about killing Manov for it to be out of any sense of guilt. But hey, alternate interpretations, *LONG LIVE THE MAGNIFICENT BASTARD, THE GREAT MR. REUS!*
Is it me, or is this the most sensible the judge has EVER been in a trial?
It only took him 10 years but I think he's getting the hang of this whole judge business
i think thats because the prosecution was a bit too biased even in his opinion (and not nearly intimidating as some others like von karma and blackquill) to be swayed by them this time lol
I mean the judge has seen some shit in his career.
Mainly from the Wright Anything Agency
Never mind his common sense, what I would like to know more than anything...
... Is the Judge's full name.
God, the prosecution getting hit in the face like that was sooo damn satisfying
That shut him up reeeal good
Ice Kin Pyris Blitzkrice Holy fuck, it made me feel so damn good
Like eating an ice cream then getting to munch the cone
Like beating Dark Souls 3 for the fifth time while your friends still have trouble with Bloodborne
You two have issues
Isn't Reus the only AA villain to have achieved a supposedly perfect crime? His reasoning and his manner of conducting the murder were flawless, I would say -- it was only a twist of fate that its demise would be caused by the mere random mistake of a third-party character which, if I recall, was not aware of his scheme.
Florent L'Bell's and Kristoph Gavin are a few Ace Attorney villains who came close to pulling off the perfect crime but were defeated because they didn't bother to anticipate something that can unravel their plans and prove their guilt.
It would have worked WITH the mistake with in mind if he hadn't been such a sadistic douchebag. Instead, he put the Wright Anything Agency in that ridiculous debt just for being associated with the Gramaryes, with something outside the damn murder plot itself, and that is what ultimately got him linked to the carbon paper, establishing his motive and ultimately outing him as the actual Mr. Reus.
He's pretty remarkable for having absolutely no identifying characteristics of himself at the scene. Other killers have taken away, or left behind something that pretty obviously places them there. On the other hand, it means pinning a killer based solely on the position of someone else's thumbprint is a *really* impressive trick on its own (and I'm not belittling the logic - it actually makes perfect sense).
Yeah I agree about Gavin, I don't remember about L'Bell's :D
What about Simon Keyes? You can use almost nothing but logic and conjecture, and if it wasn't because of Dogen's passion for chess and Justine Courtney's lion lilies we wouldn't ever get evidence that would point out to his guilt. Since he was acting cleverly and choosing words so nothing would cause a conviction, it was pratically impossible to bring him to court, possibly harder than Quercus Alba, Di-Jun Huang and Blaise Debeste.
Betty was a tsundere the entire time!
That makes Bonny the yandere
I refuse to believe
I ship Betty x Trucy now
+Ice Kin Pyris Blitzkrice (Pyro the Medic) Bonny is the dandere.
expected for this comment :v
During that breakdown, the bloodied mask was a nice touch. Showcasing how Retinz basically tarnished his whole legacy as a competent magician by throwing it all the way for a petty revenge, and destroying the life of an innocent man who only had praise for him as anyone would have had for Trucy.
I can only imagine Phoenix and Thalassa telling Apollo he's a Gramarye, only for him to make a beeline to the Detention Center just to tell Retinz he DID get defeated by a Gramarye.
"Apollo, you're a Gramarye. You're half-siblings with Trucy."
"...Okay, give me a moment."
...
"HEY!! ROGER RETINZ!!"
"What the- Oh, it's you meddling lawyer. Here to laugh at my face?"
"More than that, actually... I am a Gramarye on my mother's side, and you have been bested by a Gramarye!"
@@aelsaellie i find it ironic. That he had a grudge against trycy grandfather but his grandson is the who put him in jail for good
@aelsaellie a small part of me imagines him setting Apollo's vest on fire, a few small ones though, out of spite and him attempting to put them out as he leaves. XD
Ganondorf Retinz: CURSE YOU APOLLO
CURSE YOU TRUCY
But Most of all
CURSE YOU GRAMAYYYYYYYERRRREEEE!
CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!
Heinz Doofenshmirtz already took disgust at another Phineas And Ferb villain's plans, and Roger Retinz makes both Rodney and Parallel Heinz combined look cuddly.
I think Mr Sadmadhi is the one who has strayed. He claims to want to create the finishing rites, but becomes angered if his idea or position is challenged and starts calling people names, which is not something Miles or Gavin have done. He wants to be right.
He also seems to forget the fact that he's NOT in Khura'in.
Considering why he's a prosecutor, him being right is the only thing that allows him to push forward, SPOILERS, but Nahyuta is being forced to be a prosecutor by the current Queen of Khurain, it's not what he wanted and being right is the only way he can feel like what he's doing is right.
@@nathanevans1382 it honestly would have worked better if he was a klavier esque prosecutor outside of khurain, purely seeking the truth but as a prosecutor had to doubt trucys innocence at all times until he ultimately there isnt any room for doubt. And then be a von karma esque prosecutor in khurain. So against apollo and athena hes jist doing his job and only does his bead thing when they are under distress or too hotheaded to force them to re evaluate what they know, this would interact when it seems like they are about to give up. As a way for him to push them to grow. But against phoenix in khurain he pulls insults and is more aggressive because he's being blackmailed and has to keep a clean record in front of the queen
@@nekoluxuria7721 Nah, he's fine the way he is, making him a combination of Klavier and Von Karma would be awkward and repetitive.
Yeah, let's stop talkig about Apollo's past.
("Guitar's Serenade" plays)
Oh, Capcom...
that breakdown of reus was so well done
Couldn't agree more.
BEST BREAKDOWN IN ALL THE GAMES SO FAR
Bye Bye Mr. Reus, See you in magician hell
Luckily for you, pyro magic abounds
Most satisfying, indeed, but the best one is still L'Belle's one, where she's getting skin and lung cancer at the same time.
And turning into basically a windy old bag with the wind knocked out of it
TheEmeraldboy100 I have to point it out l'belle is a guy
I thought it was anticlimatic when he just fainted.
At least burn himself.
Technically Apollo is a Gramarye through his mother... So technically Retinz DID get figured out by a Gramarye.
that’s
that’s not
Nahyuta K.O.- nice! I almost thought Renitz was going to escape using a magic trick... Bonny making that mistake in the show really helped save the day. Fun case!
But Reus didn't actually fool Troupe Gramarye with his trick. Apollo, as the grandson of Magnifi and son of Thalassa, saw through Reus's stunt. Thus Gramarye still came out over Reus.
Very late to the game, but Apollo being able to figure magic tricks without real proper training (except for being Trucy's assistant) really did show his mother's bloodline of magician talents. Since it takes a magician to recognize another, right?
If it wasn't for that mistake Bonny did, Roger would've got away with murder and that's creepy.
Trucy would've probably noticed the blood stain and then not placed the sword in
The bloodstain was put there after the "corpse" was found
@@jorgecaimanque6951 No it wasn’t
@@crypt5129 did we not just watch the same case
Oof, pay attention to the revisualization again, will you?@@crypt5129
3:46 - Apollo should have pointed out that the theater was evacuated immediately after the incident and then Trucy was arrested. She had no time to go back and tamper with the scene--much less to the extent of lowering a body, retrieving the murder weapon, and fiddling with the coffin.
When I saw Trucy run off stage and then the shadow flew up, I was like "How did you expect that to be Trucy when she JUST RAN AWAY!!" And she went back there because Bonny called her back, so you would think she would notice if she went flying back there.
I'm guessing this will be my favorite case in the game just because of the witnesses. The Bonny twins are great, and Retinz is interesting (I didn't fully see the other parts he was in, but he pretended he was killed, and got an innocent man killed as a "prank" to arrest Trucy).
Also, I admit, I kept watching his (Retinz's) breakdown SOLELY because of the music. It's beautiful.
Also I freakin love magic, and this felt like one of the most satisfying breakdowns ever
The murder is genius honestly. I don't really care about villains in video games or killers (that's why I usually spoil myself) but I love trying to uncover how they did it, and this was genius. I think it's on the same level as the last case of Apollo Justice (or of the fourth muder in Danganronpa 2). I don't get this vibe often (and I didn't get it in Dual Destinies) so it's very pleasant to have a case like this. Cases that have markes me:
1) Last case of AA 1
2) Third case of AA2 (with the circus)
3) Last case of AA3
4) Last case of AJ
5) Fourth/Fifth case of ME1
6) ME2's third and fifth cases
Lunyoo The fourth murder of Danganronpa 2 gave me a headache because I'm a Spanish speaking boy, and all that was happening at the time was too much for my brain to process
Just remembering it... ugh
*@kirby1781* ~ Bonny Twins? More of "De Famme" Twins to me.
And so ends the career of the Two-Faced Con artist. An internet celebrity who only cared for money, causing scandal even for the innocent. The one that even hates even his fans and plays the Victim card when he's found guilty.
Holy Shit! Roger is Keemstar
No, Roger is KILLER Keemstar
Tom Rom I'm ashamed i didn't think of that
Xain Reaper lel
Capcom was watching youtube when they made this character
And he sets up extremely mean-spirited and unfunny pranks that exist only to shock and rake in views. He's like an unholy combination of Keemstar and Sam Pepper.
So, he wants revenge against the Gramaryes and decides to target an innocent girl and kill an innocent man, aka, the man that he trained himself, to do it. That's horrible, but what makes it worse is that his motive is so outdated. He successful and rich now and could easily start his own career as a magician since he runs a TELEVISION business and could easily make his own show that would rival Trucy. He had everything and decided to give it up over something that happened years ago, not to mention . He may have had a clever murder plot, but he was an idiot.
Retinz was an incredible sadist, simple as that. The sort of material on his TV network? Girls in bikinis mud wrestling each other. The reason he attempted to foreclose on the Wright Anything Agency? Simply for being associated with fucking Zak Gramarye. The "trust" toward Manov Mistree? A sham to turn him into a pawn to throw away later on, as Retinz doesn't even truly trust anybody with his secrets, even admitting to it on the stand, in non-optional dialogue and with Apollo having a response in an inner monologue about it. Retinz even has a pyromaniac pose you see at several points including when he does his Evil Laugh, which was an old criteria for being a sociopath.
Yes, that is exactly what Retinz is: a sociopath. No empathy or conscience? All the crap he pulls and he has the gall to claim he's not the victim here. Check. Casual lying? He never sets off Apollo's bracelet, which Kristoph Gavin and the phantom both actually did do, something I don't think the developers would have forgotten, and we also know there's a lot of manipulation to go around. Check. Pleasure at any cost? Take-2 TV's trash and the fake contract business. Enough said. Check. Arrogance? He claims his magic is exactly that and also thought squeezing the fake contract business into his plot was a bright idea. Check. Cares nothing about anybody else? What do you think? CHECK, CHECK, FUCKING CHECK!
Now being a sociopath wouldn't get him onto the Complete Monster trope. No, what does is that yes, he is heinous enough without any redeeming qualities. The only Ace Attorney villain who I can think of pulled similar crap that was twisted enough in that the frame-up was the goal of the entire plot rather than simply self-preservation effort by covering up the accommodating murder is Manfred Von Karma, who still has more of an excuse and more resources. Let that sink in. Seriously, we don't even see any signs that Retinz had Von Karma's absolutely extreme OCD. Add to it that Von Karma at least gave no indication that he would have been interested in convicting Yanni Yogi, even if he actually didn't care about the guy's welfare, whereas Retinz turned Betty de Famme into a potential scapegoat. Manfred Von Karma, can you please be our Case 2 killer for Spirit of Justice? PLEASE?
I don't know how vanilla TV Tropes thinks Retinz isn't heinous enough for the trope. Then again, at this point, I'm basically pointing and laughing when they similarly believe Chaos Kin, Kyosuke Higuchi, and Orson Krennic without tie-in material all fail to qualify. The only possible explanation I can see is the weight of the Investigations games. Based on what I played of them, that argument is flawed, because first off, they're clearly darker, arguably darker than Spirit of Justice in fact and that says a lot. That would be expected in hindsight when they're from Edgeworth's viewpoint, but it just says that the mainstream games are a LOT more optimistic even in Spirit of Justice, which just brings up Retinz being a Knight of Cerebus who manages to rampage in what should have been a Breather Level.
Okay, so I should just play through the Investigations games, I shouldn't care that I could very well get desensitized to future candidates in later game. What I have read on spoilers about them still doesn't suggest that Retinz gets eclipsed. One particular villain in the second game is somebody who doesn't it's mentioned treat his chosen family well and I wouldn't doubt if he pulled similar crap toward his wife that Retinz did to Mistree, but the Wiki is too damn vague about what the villain does to his wife and why, and I expect I2 itself is equally so. Not to mention that the villain ALSO has more resources than Retinz and it's not like killing Mistree so arbitrarily is the only thing Retinz did.
Yeah, I had to say a lot there.
Updated Motive Report
@@MasterKnightDH woah
Reminds me of von carmen except von carmen already got his revenge so he is even dumber than this guy
I laughed my ass off when i saw Apollo in the box
I thought Trucy was gonna have a rigged seat that would float up high in the air when Apollo sat in it.
Yeah
CJG G we should had known
@@cjgg4885
I thought they were going to pull a Bowser's Inside Story, to be honest.
@@cjgg4885 6 year old comment but holy shit that would've been hilarious
One thing gets me.
Valant is still alive
Lamiroir is still alive, but does anyone know about her identity outside of Phoenix?
Valant is unknown, all we know is that the last time phoenix spoke to him he said he was gonna turn himself in at the police station. I assumed he's behind bars for fabricating evidence at the scene.
Lamiroir is definetly still alive as she sent flowers to Trucy's show here. I know phoenix said he found someone that can help with her blindness but other then that I assume only Phoenix still knows as Apollo and Trucy still don't know.
Valant was arrested, so his career is probably ruined. And Lamiroir changed her identity herself, so even if Retinz knew, it's not like anything changes as she stopped working as a magician anyways
@@pissmaster8859 Since Trucy inherited the rights from Zak, he realized he lost everything, so he had nothing to lose. So that's why he turned himself in for tampering with the crime scene.
@@pissmaster8859 why was valant arrested?
@@turquoiseninju7 He confirmed he tampered with evidence and like he admitted he was gonna kill Magnifi. Something along the lines of that, Valant isn't exactly memorable
I miss the stream comments from this case lel.
#DeppIsEvil #SaveBonnyDeFamme #SaveTrucyWright #ItsJustAPrankBro #PrankGoneWrong #BettyIsBatty #Objection
Ikr the stream was great
Wow, when Apollo saw the boards as the grim reaper and a guy falling to his death, he saw this whole thing coming...
Actually, more like he ROSE to his death, but
9:30 I was really waiting for Apollo to shout:
"OBJECTION!!! Sorry to disappoint you, but I am also, like Trucy, Thalassa Gramarye's child. So technically I am also a Gramarye. Meaning that you just got rekt by a Gramarye, bitchhh!!!"
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.
.
.
.
But I guess that's impossible since Apollo and Trucy themselves are not aware that they are half-siblings.. *sigh*
Imagine Phoenix in the crowd just shouting that and then Apollo and Trucy are like *“hUuUUhHH?”*
That would've been amazing to see his reaction to learning THAT! XD
Kurniawan Aryanto Famili wasn’t trucy a enigmar though
@@sepabyte9418 nope.
@@turquoiseninju7 Well, she is an Enigmar. I mean, Zak's real name is Shadi Enigmar. That's her surname on AJ's Case 4 during Zak's trial, if you look at the Court Record.
The final breakdown brought me flashbacks to Dual Destinies last case final breakdown.
That breakdown really left a huge impact on me man ...
Retinz's breakdown was actually pretty creative.
hooray for Apollo, Wright sempai acknowledge his talents
Still it makes me wonder if Phoenix would of gone full daddy rage mode if he was handling this case?
supersaiyannaruto1 I'm sure he would
During the first case, when his life is on the line, he goes: "There's also Maya to think about in all of this".
I mean, if Phoenix gets executed, he cares more for Maya than his own FREAKING daughter?! Or his subordinates and friends?!
@@Aego384 Maya was most immediately on his mind. Also, the game had not introduced Apollo, Trucy, and Athena yet at that point in time, so it would have been VERY confusing to a new person to the games.
I think he would have punched Retinz in the nose for insulting his daughter
@@Aego384 I mean, yeah, he knew Maya much longer than any of the others.
This is a GREAT epilogue to "Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney" or "Turnabout Succession". What an epic and heart-felt story!
Apollo: You've really changed Nahyuta. Telling me to "let it go" and stuff. What happened to you.
Me: You know I wouldn't have been surprised if he had just said "FROZEN HAPPENED!"
HE EVEN LOOKS LIKE ELSA!!!!!!!
OoOooh...
the fact that the judge asked trucy to do her smile again and cheer her up just massively increased my respect for him even more
Retinz was such an great villain. Become my favorite with Gant.
To me there are so many great villains ... But those who stuck the most were :
1) Callisto Yew/Shih-na (that laugh)
2) Gant (obviously)
3) Dahlia
I raise you this: Ga'ran Sigatar Khu'rain.
retinz or rather mr reus is vilain tragic. it want become magicia but unfortunely zack grimary kicket out me and want revenge humilation for not famous magician.
@@lime8857 Ah yes, keep spoiling the game. Thanks bro
"Final heir' heh
heheh
HAHAH
Best breakdown in the series? Best breakdown in the series.
Can I just say how sweet it was of the Judge to ask Trucy to smile as he handed down his ruleing?
He knows how hard it must’ve been for her, she is still a high schooler after all, getting accused of murder and getting verbally attacked by the true murderer had hit her hard. Still, the troupe gramarye creed still holds strong, “a true entertainer always keeps a smile on their face.”
I just love the fact that Apollo's ringtone is Lamiroir's song!
roger retinz: *tips fedora*
Mu'rder
Holy molly they really are working on these breakdowns, all of them epic so far, including the prosecutors!
Best confession I've ever seen. Really, that was an absolute gem. Capcom you did a good job.
I just love Roger Retinz's breakdown
So Apollo proved 3 impossible things in this case:
1. The witness was at 2 places at once
2. The killer was away from murder scene
3. The killer was the victim
And it was first Nahyuta case in this law system. Could you imagine how he felt?
Capcom is making Trucy's family messed up.
Only if you are a girl magician, you won't have a problem. (Like Trucy and her mom (If forgot her name sorry....))
You forget the Fey family is pretty messed up too. Just look at what they did to Maya and Pearl
Ice Kin Pyris Blitzkrice Morgan Fey’s line was the one that was really messed up - with Dahlia and all
SHSL Trash Except for Pearl. She’s the exception.
Pearl is a certain kind of bubblegum that makes your teeth have a cavity while looking at it.
9:52 well, Apollo is technically a Gramarye so, YOU FAIL, GET OUT OF MY PLANET
And to the moon!
...or further
Actually, Betty's a tsundere.
Yep
actually they're both adorable help
*What gave it away?*
Agreed
At first I hated her, but now I just find it adorable.
Evil magical fedora Johnny Depp breaks down with his amazing theme playing in the background. Gr8 breakdown m8
Retinz really rubbed it on that last jab
Oh and imagine Retinz is in prison and just suddenly runs into Valant.
Considering how big the trial seemed to be in the public sphere, Valant would probably punch him in the kidneys.
@@hootax8980nah kick his nut
Athena: Apollo, how do you know Nahyuta?
Apollo: Well, when I was nine, I was on trial. A class trial...
You know it’s funny: No one under the Grammarye name committed any murders. Were they close calls? Hell yea, but no corpses were made directly by them.
You know who did?
The only person kicked out of the group.
Wow, they dodged a bullet on that one...
If only they had managed to dodge two bullets.
Well, technically that's not true, Magnifi directly made a corpse, granted, it was his own, but he made one.
That breakdown, at first, was some Danganronpa level shit. Woah.
And so, the similarities between Sahdmadhi and Edgeworth just keep on growing.
The only thing missing is an updated autopsy report.
I do enjoy a good nervous breakdown. All of them are very unique and enjoyable
damn , I did NOT expect Retinz to be THAT evil
I now hate Retinz
Yeah he was already evil to begin with as a con man.
But wanting to sentence Trucy to death, put the agency she works for out of business, and silence the Troupe Gramayre family for good all because of an accident is just plain insane maaan!
Retinz: And i would've gotten away with it two if it weren't for you meddling kids and your stupid mask.
Yeah, what I was expecting was that Bonny's mistake had caused Mistree and Mr. Hat to get drawn up to the same cushion and that Mistree was impaled on the sword that Mr. Hat was holding, so the whole thing was an accident after all. I didn't think Retinz would spend years training someone as a magician just to waste them like that.
He didn't just not give a damn. He planned it from the start. He mentioned that he trusts NOBODY with his secrets. That means Retinz would have offed Mistree sooner or later for having knowledge he had given Mistree under the pretense of making him his successor. That is BEYOND hideous.
Somebody tell me how Retinz is NOT a Complete Monster. Redd Black got in with less standout bullshit and more resources.
0:23 The Panels Were Switched!
0:47 The Fingerprints
3:30 Objection
4:54 The True Culprit 5:23
5:51 Breakdown
7:15 Confession
8:22 Bad Attitude
10:31 The curtain is about to fall on this episode
11:15 NOT Guilty
*Lobby*
11:46 Celebration 🎉
14:20 Trucy 16:00
18:08 Ema Skye
18:55 Prosecutor Sahdmadhi
20:57 Phone Call, Apollo gains Respect
*Back At The Penrose Theatre 🎭*
22:56 Real Magic
The most satisfying moment of this case was seeing Apollo roast Sadhmadi about going to hell. That was some good old fashioned justice right there
I just love everything about this breakdown, from osts to the animation its simply beautiful
4:30 That was the most savage shit I've ever read oh my god
5:53 This theme song is gold, and the breakdown is even better. GOD I absolutely love this game, and ESPECIALLY this case.
WHEN WILL APOLLO AND TRUCY FIND OUT?
+Anthony Smith NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Really that they did already found out before
So sad that i found out the truth ;_; was considering a ship between them ;_;
+CamperN00b47 i laughed way harder at that than what i should have
The next game?
Just finished this case for myself; what a great villain Retinz turned out to be!!
A semi-sympathetic motive, a particularly ingenious method and subsequent cover-up, a superb identity twist, and a super-satisfying breakdown ;D
13:48
Okay, this pretty much sells it: *Betty is a tsundere*
I can't believe Apollo is ****ing dead
4:20 the sickest of all the burn, it burns even hotter than hell itself.
That... is coffee
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@@Aego384 Wait-
What I really liked about this case was that, in the end, Retinz still lost to a Gramarye. For those that didn't play Apollo's game or just forgot, he is also a descendant of Troupe Gramarye and is also Trucy's half-brother (although they don't know this yet). So by trying to get revenge on Troupe Gramarye, Retinz revealed himself to them and lost to them again for one, final time.
Trucy adapted to Bonny's mistake. Retinz didn't.
Imagine Retinz' surprise when he finds out that Apollo was also Magnifi's grandson lmao
By far my favorite breakdown in the series. So symbolic, so fitting and so, so, so good.
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omg this breakdown was one of the best!
Yes, I've been wanting to see that prosecutor squirm like that.
As adorable as the Judge can be, it was honestly really wholesome, even for him, to ask Trucy to smile before giving his verdict.
It was really warm to see imo.
So the first case was another locked room witness-did-it tutorial case which happened to feature a blackout
And the second case was a defend-the-loli situation involving an overly abrasive prosecutor with a hitherto undisclosed past with the protagonist
I'm getting way more deja vu than usual for one of these games, even with all the weirdness taken for granted
Wait for Case 5...
The Breakdown is legendary
Yep. We even actually Retinz shake in fear to the uselessness of doing so. So. Fucking. Satisfying.
No No no no this guy needs more defeat. Where's the epilogue with Lamiroir trolling him and saying : Syke Retinz Apollo is a Gramarye too boy!!
So they never even bothered to acknowledge there was no blood on the sword when Trucy pulled it out of the coffin, and only that there was blood on the sword on the scene afterwards? They literally left out the most obvious detail in the beginning to Trucy's innocence.
Hmmmm yeah you have a point there.........oops
I think Trucy actually uses the rubber sword in the coffin trick. That explains why there's no blood in the sword that Trucy used.
The real sword however..... you see there's this remote murder thing where you see how Apollo explains how it works (its on the previos part). Too bad that real sword is somehow "cannot be found" or gone somehow. It could be the crucial thing to make Trucy innocent but somehow Nahyuta said its not there.
Very convenient i must say.
I was thinking this the whole time.
I'm more concerned about "Trucy's Note" being absolutely overwhelming evidence when it clearly could be easily linked to the carbon paper.
Also, what about the stab wound's position? Trucy inserted the sword from the side, but it seems they never bring up the fact that the victim was stabbed in the back.
4:19 Nahyuta got knocked da fugg out!
5:34 Roger Retinz's/Real Mr. Reus' breakdown
11:06 i swear this is the best judge
The best breakdown of that game for sure and one of my favourites from the series. Usually murderers turn less lovable when they are found out but Reintz gets just so cool with his casual magic tricks
I love LOVE SOJ even though the culprits were a bit obvious but I seriously forgot how amazing the breakdowns and music were. I know people criticize it but Cornering together is one of the best themes to come out of AA imo
Retinz plan was on a whole new level of crazy.
Like _Nagito Komeada crazy._
Reus had one of the best plans in the series ever. He didn't kill the guy with his own hands, heck he wasn't even there, and it was not a convoluted mess (ace attorney standard anyway). It took a bumbling assistant to even implicate him, and a silly mistake of leaving his gimmicked clipboard behind (which should never happen because he knows as a magician that gimmicked props will give the secret away if given to the spectator). Capcom had to literally make a renowned magician forget one of the most basic rules of magic for him to be seen as guilty.
He was seen as guilty because Betty made a mistake, not because of the clipboard, but okay
@@crypt5129 well, the whole reason they started to suspect him was because of the clipboard tho
Kinda ironic Mr Reus says he defeated Gramarye but technically he did lose to a Gramarye
Visually the best breakdown of the series. Reus' motives were very unjustified
What was his primary motive for murdering his own fracking loyal successor anyway? Because revenge on Troupe Gramarye is the only possible one that could _POSSIBLY_ explain it, and oh look, it's still a shitty motive, AND he's still an abhorrent piece of shit in general anyway.
Somebody had better tell Apollo and Trucy they're related before Capcom forgets and ships them any harder.
Right, bcos this was dang shipping fuel for ppl who havent seen AJ!
So Retinz talks smack to Trucy and acts a total braggart, yet Sahdmadhi doesn't make him suffer with the rosary?
You'd better turn this around in the next three cases Capcom, because so far this prosecutor's not winning me over.
Freeter2k the last case will
I saw the last case. It still doesn't excuse how much of a jerk he was 24/7.
So I noticed that nobody pointed out that Betty de Famme is technically guilty of involuntary manslaughter. She was the one that sended Mistree to his doomed, although unaware of the fact, because she voluntarily agreed to ploy against Trucy and thus basically making her an accesory. She lawfully deserves punishment, as light as it may be though, considering all the facts, but punishment nonetheless.
Those who plays Apollo Justice knows that Apollo is part of the Gramarye family and seeing Mr.Reus talking about he defeated them it is just funny as we know the real plot twist.
That's one hell of breakdown, 10/10
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Whatever helps you sleep at night, pal.
I KNEW HE WAS THE MURDERER!! I mean think for a moment, why would he make the signature on a contract that forces Apollo to pay 3 million dollars if something would occur during performance time? He was either an accomplice or the murderer.
And all because of an accident that ruined his career. Pathetic.
Ice Kin Pyris Blitzkrice yeah that isn't a really good reason for murder, he couldn't learn to move on even though he was like 30-40 years old.
Even Apollo lampshades it, and the judge can see when it got out of hand, especially when he threatened to burn the courthouse and his cell down
Trucy and apollo talking after the case melts my heart. They make for such an amazing friendship, im very glad soj had so much more of them together after dd had so little
Love the fact that he used his mother's song for his phone's ringtone 😁
*confetti comes raining down*
Prosecutor: "What the fuck?! Is this NORMAL in this country?!"
also im calling it, HE WENT TO THE MOON KINGDOM AND THAT SASH IS MAKING HIM FORGET ALL HIS EXPERIENCES ON THIS EARTH!!!
XD
Im just saying...it's like that one Japanese story okami made awesome
Quoting myself from another video and because it bears repeating:
So Retinz was another victim of Magnifi's dickery, wasn't he? Boy, even from beyond the grave, that old douchebag is nothing but bad news for the Wrights and their associates.
Sahdmadhi now has my favorite prosecutor breakdown in the entire series.
Magnifi had been dead for 7 years at the time of Apollo Justice. He's completely a Posthumous Character.
He shouldn't even be blamed for what Retinz pulled anyway. Retinz pulled so much bullshit for varying reasons that his revenge motive couldn't even hope to explain it all.
Magnifi kicking Retinz out of the trope was what lead the Ratings Rajah to be consumed by bitterness and desire for revenge after having his dreams crushed into fine dust.
But again, as Trucy stated, maybe Magnifi did have a good reason for ousting Retinz due to the latter's reckless usage of magic and overall arrogant, dismissive attitude towards the unwritten rules of stage magic-dom.
Magnifi kicked Retinz out of the troupe because Retinz went on stage with ill-practiced _FIRE_ magic. Retinz knew how dangerous fire magic is too as made clear by the basic script for Trucy's show indicating that the fire could get out of hand:
"11:00 AM : Mr Reus's fire trick.
:This will be dangerous. Make sure the fire bucket is ready!"
Retinz's motive is a load of bogus hitbox anyway. He stated preferring to be a solo act, seeing any assistants as nothing more than a potential liability. That implies that he had used Manov Mistree from the start. If his goal was simply to kill Manov Mistree for being his successor, then guess what? Retinz chose to make the guy his successor. If he was instead intending to have a tool with which to get revenge on the Gramaryes, he's a God forsaken TV station owner who could control the material that could go on the airwaves, and he could have used it to discredit Zak and Magnifi Gramarye specifically, AND he still found a loyal fan of Mr. Reus, NOT freaking Troupe Gramarye.
Whatever the Gramaryes did, no matter how much we will celebrate Kristoph Gavin konking Zak Gramarye on the head, none of it changes the garbage Retinz pulled. What we are left with for his atrocities, in addition to insulting magicians and airing trash TV involving girls in bikinis wrestling each other, is insurance fraud, burglary, harassment, mass incitement, evidence tampering, and of course, particularly hideous first degree murder.
I was Really shocked when Apollo turned out to be in the actual act! 🤣🤣 That was too hilarious!
Honestly Retinz just fooling himself to a cuckoo-insanity. But I do love that sibling moment between Trucy and Apollo. ITS SOOOO PRECIOOOOUUUS! TWT
so far...BEST BREAKDOWN EVER!!
The case ending be like:
Trucy: Don't worry, Polly! You won't even die horribly!
And another proof that Apollo is the most interesting lawyer of them three. I mean, at least he is the one I prefer to play with, I prefer his sarcasm over Phoenix's goofiness or Thena's fits. His rhetoric answers are soooo enjoyable.
(Well to be honest I prefer the investigation series, because Edgeworth is the master of sarcasm, but I'd love me some Apollo Justice 2)
And that grandfather Gramarye was such a jerk, honestly. One of the worst villain of the series
None of Zak and Magnifi's Gramarye's bullshit even remotely Retinz for HIS. There's barely a connection between both, seriously.
@@MasterKnightDH Magnifi shouldn't have killed himself. Period. He was on his death bed anyways, and his suicide sparked the whole mess with Phoenix's disbarment and all.
Looks like this game has a penchant for dramatic breakdowns.