Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Fold 16 (2024) Review
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Lenovo’s back with an all new 16.3” foldable PC, the ThinkPad X1 Fold 16 Gen 1. It has a flexible 2560 x 2024 OLED display that morphs from laptop to big screen desktop. Thanks to our sponsor Trend Micro's Premium Security Suite that offers complete device and identity protection for up to 10 devices. Check it out here: 2ly.link/1w1W6 and use code LISA10 (case sensitive) for 10% off your purchase! The X1 Fold 16 runs Windows 11 on Intel processors, has up to 32GB RAM and a 1TB SSD. The detachable keyboard can connect via Bluetooth or USB-C and it’s compatible with the Lenovo Precision Pen 1 and 2. It has a 5MP Windows Hello camera, fingerprint scanner on the keyboard and 2 battery options. It competes with the Asus Zenbook Fold and HP Spectre Foldable PC. Pricing starts at $2,500, making it currently the most affordable folding screen Windows PC.
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Hat off for Lisa for being as informative, as enthusiast as I saw in videos almost 10 years ago.
You are a blessing to the people.
Hi. Recently found your channel. I wished I knew this existed.
Excellent review. Concise. Complete.
Lisa, thank you for keeping us informed about the updates of the computer market. You are a blessing, as always!
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
@@eddieneyman4035 Hi! Thank you for this information! This is very sad about the people who lost their jobs in the past couple of years. I also read about new big factories are being launched and will be launched in China in the planned future. So, I hope that good professionals will find new jobs with good conditions and salaries.
You have detailed a fantastic amount of detail for this machine. Thank you
Lisa, Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you for your awesome, one of the most relevant reviews on youtube.
I am hoping that you will be doing a review for X1 Carbon Gen 12 soon.
Hi Lisa, thanks for the review! Did I miss it, or did you showcase this unit's drawing capabilities?
"Iffy dubious" - I'm stealing that!
Love the new look ❤😍
Great review thanks!
Oh snap!! Haha Thanks for showing this!❤
The original was supercool but felt to me like a prototype, this looks like a huge improvement!
So glad to hear it's got pen support! And LTE SIM OMG!
Not sure where they would go, but I always find 'MS Surface/Asus Z13 Kickstands' the best, maybe they'll fit them in Gen 3🤞
I thought the keyboard charging was really cool on the first model, but you're right, the keyboard barely sips any battery.
I think closing flat is better, and helps it feel more solid too, and in your shots of the hardware and build overall, the new model looks super!
I've discovered so many unique devices that can wear many different hats through your channel! You show the coolest devices and show them the best!!
Thanks again Lisa & Co!
Damn you, Lisa! I was quite happy with my Lenovo Yoga Book 9i, and now I want this instead!
Great review.
I didn't see 2 battery options on the site. What is the weight differences?
It looks very good for people who are mobile and need a good sized screen. I just cant be productive on 14 inch screens. I am not bothered by the thickness or weigth since it will be in my backpack.
That shirt is giving me some That’s So Raven vibes
What is the stylus use like?
The fact this is fanless is just amazing!
I wouold love to see on of these with ARM technology.
Your videos are perfect ASMR
For me the biggest issue is that is still a kind of this mix transformer with only upside is a bit bigger screen in “big screen” mode. With so many clunky downsides
This sentiment is the same I have on
folding phones. Yes I can get a bigger screen on demand but I don't want it to come at the cost of literally everything else I actually need.
Love the shirt! Lisa, do you think it's ok to but a laptop now of wait for lunar lake?
Meteor Lake just came out, it's a fine time to buy.
Did they send this free to you? I'm curious.
sounds like it's worth another look in the *next* generation. That keyboard is tempting by itself though - does it *work* over usb C or only charge?
Charge
Really interesting piece of tech. Would never ever buy this but I nonetheless appreciate the review!
The only thing that prevents me from considering foldables is the crease. Not matter how minimal it is, it’s still a giant parted pump that interrupts the flow of a pen stroke, and as a designer and an artist I really can’t deal with that. I’m waiting on someone to solve the crease issue. If someone solves it, I’d want a 20" foldable with Core Ultra 9 and Intel Arc graphics.
Anyone know the SKU for the keyboard?
I haven't watched in a moment, but love the new hair!!
Wish the keyboard cld fit in-between. They increased the downsides.
I wonder how long until you get a fold in the screen like the Samsung phones.
Wasn't this supposed to come out 2 years ago?
Fantastic review Lisa!
This 2nd gen model was originally supposed to release in November 2022.
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@@PSYCHOV3N0M Yes that's what I thought. 2022. Guess it was towards the end of that year though.
Disappointing to see 12th gen intel here. Latest CPUs from Intel come with Arc graphics, which is a significant improvement in performance. The Asus Zenbook Duo released this month isn't a foldable, but it is dual screen, and has Arc graphics, so it isn't a thermal issue. Probably just Lenovo using old Intel chips to save on costs.
Yup. Lenovo dropped the ball on their CPU choice.
Whered you get that shirt?
I generally like the idea of it. I just know I'd break it. The sand/dust rating is a promising step forward though. Definitely one of those devices to have a premium warranty for.
In the meantime, I'd probably opt for the XPS 2-in-1 for similar portability and versatility. With more than enough money remaining to buy that even better something that is always coming up in the near future.
What is strange is y have this when they make the yoga book i9
Can you make half of it a touchscreen keypad instead of having to have the big keypad?
Yes you can make the bottom half a keyboard.
Showed you puttong the keyboard on and swinging the screen to my blss and she went "that makes my head hurt" lol. She also guessed it started $500 less
I really wish it is cheaper, the day when they came down to 1200 bucks is the day I'll consider this type of products seriously
Maybe used in about half a decade.
Maybe in widespread mode it stays cooler, so the battery lasts same or more. Weird.
At 2500$... Im good
I was expecting her to say $800 - maybe $1000. When she said $2500 - $4000 💔
@@laska907 as soon as she said the screen was OLED I knew my hopes of owning one was up in smoke.
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I remember using TrendMicro in a web browser and it taking like an hour. It was legit back then though.. that’s like 20 years now 😮
U didnt mention the weight...
Asus made one. Still on sale in India but I think it's like $2500 even now
Would be nice to include an outside camera. I mean, I wouldn't be that guy holding it up at a concert, but still.
Digging the new haircut Lisa! Keeping it fresh.
Thunderbolt?
This is a big improvement compared to the first version. At the current prices I would not buy one. If the next iteration improves battery life, includes some more onboard ports and has a lower price then I would probably buy one.
The problem is, Lenovo doesn't stick with their ideas. They come up with so many unique products, but where are they now... The ultra thin yoga book is one of many with the touch keys, that was way before the foldable phones. They dished that. Incidentally, I have one, the android version.
I think you missed that this size as a tablet works worse than the gen 1
At least Lenovo is trying, but I don't think this form factor has a strong use case. I got a P1 gen 5 with a i7-12800H and Nvidia A1000 (hey, nice to have) for $1100 in Dec. 2023.
No mention of the quality of the webcam...
I have no interest in buying this. But you do the absolute best tech reviews.
These are super cool.. just can’t think of a use for it where I could justify. I really like my boring old m1 MacBook airs look.. it’s simple and intuitive. Not very delicate. This seems like when it breaks I’m SOL
Are they serious with actually releasing it? They first announced this in 2022 didn't they?
7:03 and ... the USB-C charging connector supports up to 73-75 plug in-out cycles, that is enough to keep you going for almost 2 months before throwing it away.
your hair looks great!!!!
With the extra folded height, plus the extra keyboard, it's funky folding stand and the weight (3lbs+ with keyboard), I'm not sure I'd opt for it over a thin and light 14" or even a 15.6" conventional laptop.
For compact on the road work my old high-spec old i7 Macbook 12" is lighter, more compact, sounds great and runs MacOs, Windows and Linux very well. Using an iPad like an M1 Air for a second display when needed for productivity is handy, and you have two separate devices one a tablet if needed. all for the same weight and and same or smaller form factor. With a USB power brick (1lb) I can run both all day and then some. That package to me seems a more practical and functional option for a lot less cash outlay.
I wish PC manufacturers Like Apple and Lenovo would focus more on the super light and thin 12 to 12.5" form factor and offer an external monitor.
I use an ROG X13, 80% of the time folded up (screen facing me, the keyboard behind) and put on a tray.
I would be in the market for such a laptop if they could back up the gorgeous display with a higher refresh rate and a dGPU.
Both ASUS and Lenovo missed the mark for this generation unfortunately.
Thinkpad lady is back :)
Thirst thought, looks interesting. Watched until the specs were shown. 12th gen? Lost interest. Good thing is that they at least offer a 32Gb model.
Where is the GPU?
There is none. But you can use of the of the two Thunderbolt 4 ports to use an eGPU for superior graphics.
Who are the target user base for this? 4 hour battery life? A ton of parts to set up would make using it while traveling difficult. Oh! Did I mention, 4 hour battery life? Again, making travel usage difficult.
Lisa great review short hair don’t care rock it girl.
they should make a more useful device by using a SOC and dual boot with android
people could stop carrying both laptop and phone and only one device
YOUR HAIRRRR😊
And then you look at the Asus Zenbook Duo and think, hmmmmmm, that works better or at least as fine for a lower price
Yeah I can see the appeal of unifying the screens, but it's not worth another thousand dollars for half the capability. Also software pretty much knows how to handle a multi-monitor setup by now, but a single screen that changes size and shape seems to just confuse windows too much for the experience to be anything resembling seamless.
Not the update I was hoping for to be honest. I was a huge fan of the 1 gen, but the keyboard has no place to chagre anymore? Cmon Lenovo, that was a huge selling point. The design of the original was better. Next: No fan, risky decition but alright lets see if it can do at least light gaming. No headphone Jack, as a artist: Now I can never buy it.
Lenovo really made all the wrong decitions :(
Great Refresh on your hairstyle Madam )
zephyrus g14 for the price
I'll buy it in 2029 when its $200
Do not slam your laptop shut.
I mean, aren't all laptops folding 🤔
Interesting, however I think the "folding fad" will come and go without much fanfare. After all, we've been already folding laptops and flip phones for years. Thanks for the review Lisa, always appreciate your excellent content. Always well presented.
That's not what a foldable is.
Those old devices don't have foldable displays.
A dual-screen laptop is NOT a foldable.
A 2003 Motorola Razr is a FLIP phone. NOT a foldable phone.
Learn the difference. 🤣🤣🤣
Foldables aren't a fad at all. You're just ignorant.
Even Apple might be releasing a foldable phone in around 2026 or 2027.
@PSYCHOV3N0M I know the difference. The joke's not on me obviously.
I feel like they'll remain a relatively small part of the market, but become more popular as the tech improves. For the moment foldable computers are very low powered and fragile for ridiculous amounts of money, so I doubt anybody will use one as a primary machine and only the richest will get it as a novelty. But now that the concept has been proven, if they work out the issues with creasing and refine the software behind it and bring the internals up to par with other lightweight laptops, a few years down the line it would become just another option for form factor, like the laptops with 360 degree hinges to use them like tablets.
Meme machine.
💕 'Promosm'
Less video of the presenter, more video of the actual product please!
Intel 12th😂
I've never understood the appeal for these
It's okay, it's not for everyone anyway.
You're NOT the target audience for this. Move on.
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It means you can have a truly massive tablet without dealing with the inherent portability issues such a thing would have, or effectively a 17-inch laptop but with the portability of a 12-inch.
I don't think the tradeoffs are worth it in the current generation. You could buy a 17" *and* a 12" laptop for less money than this one, and they would both be more powerful and more durable. But five years from now? The successors to this could be pretty cool.
Too much talk for a review... show rather than keep talking... we can read
Not for me, feels like a prototype, expensive, clunky and fragile.
another pointless one for the gimmick bin like all folding screen devices so far
Silly device
I still don't understand why these exist...
Someday, they may be able to be just as good as other Chromebooks or better in terms of performance. For someone who always uses a bluetooth keyboard anyway, for example, it might look appealing. I think that the market for these will develop over time, but we first need to go through a bunch of ugly, clunky, and buggy preliminary iterations before we can get there. The same goes for software. They also need to adapt Windows to work seamlessly with this new form over time just like tech companies like Xiaomi and Samsung did with Android for folding phones. They have to make money in the meantime as well as make mistakes (and a lot of them at that) before they can get to the point at which buying these (for those whose needs align) is a no-brainer because they might as well get the most versatile of two or more equal products.
For people with more money than sense.
@@jamesgerber4658It's a much more versatile computer and has been working great for me. I guess I have no sense and alot of money. Ah, I'll take it.
It's a big screen when you need one and a more normal screen size when you don't.
Are you seriously THAT SLOW???
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It's a bigger screen when you need it and a smaller screen laptop when you don't which also gives you even better multitasking by running 2 or more apps side by side, etc.
Don't like the price?? Buy a cheaper dual-screen laptop like the 2024 Asus Zenbook Duo.
Lenovo is not IBM, and it sucks. Period.
Folding screens are the dumbest tech ever. The screen is made of soft plastic, you can scratch and dent it with your fingernails (which is great for a touchscreen)
Before junping on board the stupid train, spend 10 minutes reading the samsung galaxy fold customer support forums, and you'll see the nightmare garbage that these screens and especially their hinges are.
And of course, warranty doesn't cover s reen damage. There is a reason companies are happy to sell flawed tech with easily breakable screens: if your screen is damaged, and you want warranty service (lets say the battery is a dud, and you want a replacement battery) : if your screen has dents or scratches or your hinge is damaged, Samsung \ Lenovo (whoever) can refuse to fix the issue because the screen is damaged, and they don't fix screens. Because, you see, in order to replace that battery, the screen must be removed.
Samsung (unlike apple) does NOT OFFER warranty device replacement. They offer warranty device REPAIR, which they can choose to do or not to do, and if they decide your screen has too many scratches, they won't replace the battery or do anything else.
Read the forums, I've done the warranty dance with samsung.
Foldable tech is an excuse to sell brokeb tech to hipsters who:
1) can afford to buy a new device any time ANYTHING goes wrong OR
2) can't afford a new device whenever it breaks, but DON'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK regarding how fragile and prone to failure these devices are.
I repeat: the screen on foldable tech WILL break down at the hinge, during normal use. It WILL fail, just with daily use, and screen repair is not warranty covered.
I find this channel is part of the problem, not discussing the hard questions regarding this flawed, anti-consumer SCAM technology properly.
Now i click "don't recommend this channel"
Bye forever, lazy tech "journalist"
Samsung folding phones are actually a pretty great example of how the tech's been advancing. The first two generations were complete garbage. The third didn't scratch up, but the screen started cracking after 6-8 months of daily use. The fourth has gone strong for the year since it was released, but I doubt it will be much longer. The fifth and sixth haven't existed long enough for real world data, but they've got higher *rated* durability at least.
I remember when the first 2-in-1 convertibles with their 360 degree hinges came out, and fell apart if you looked at them wrong. I remember when they started putting touchscreens on laptops, with disastrous results. I'm not quite old enough to have been buying computers when trackpads were first introduced, but there's a reason almost everybody used a little nubbin in the middle of their keyboard to control the cursor instead. Every advancement has been overpriced, unreliable crap when first sold, and then if it survives a few years it suddenly becomes just another decent option, or even on rare occasions the industry standard.
Of course, that isn't always a good thing (I despise companies treating Bluetooth as the default and using that as an excuse for taking away audio connectors).