Tig Welding/Brazing with Silicon Bronze
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2014
- a more detailed article about tig welding with silicon bronze is at goo.gl/N890GI
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Making some piggy banks for Christmas and using some threaded pipe couplings for pig snouts. Welding with the Furick bbw cup as well as a #4 tig cup. some tips for using AC and DC. - Навчання та стиль
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Your quality of videos of welding, have always made the difference to me.
Gives people a real feel of how to move in real-time.
Tig Welding & Brazing tips using Silicon Bronze filler rod. Comment, Enjoy, maybe even Subscribe.
Can you do a Shop Tour? And all the different equipment you got? Because it seems like you have everything!
TheSquidPartol I'd love to get my hands on the Strong Hand table, Everlast 255ext welder, a couple of his welding helmets and of course a half dozen more TIG FINGERS! Alas, my Christmas list will probably only get partially filled this year. Merry Christmas everyone.
weldingtipsandtricks bought a tig finger xl and love it. what kind of alumina cup is that the big one you were using?
I watch all of your videos the first day they come out! They are so informative and have such good "action" shots! Keep up the GREAT work!!
Please don't ever apologize for trying to sell some of your wares! Your videos are freaking amazing and have helped me and I am sure many other welders (whether pro or hobby). I bought some tig fingers a while back and they are one of the best investments I have ever made! I know for a fact they have saved me from cursing and jumping around with burnt fingers.
Keep up the amazing work!
I really like this tutorial, I have been wondering about this process for some time. I must try this now I have a better idea as to how to go about it. Many thanks, cheers from John.
some really good videos by someone who knows a great deal of information with doing tig welding
This is something I should try with my powertig welder. It sounds very useful.
Hi Jody,
Practical ways to stick difficult to weld materials together.
Thanks,
Pierre
Flat Stanley ! So nice to see you in the shop !
I sure hope we are going to see the finished piggy banks! lol Thanks Jody!
I do plenty of oxy-fuel brazing and don't know why I haven't tried the TIG braze, this may have changed my entire outlook on this! :-) thanks for the vid!
I look at your brazing and then I look at mine and I cry. Hello from Pierce college welding shop.
Thanks Jody for another informative and awesome video! I´m learning tons from watching your videos. //Jens from Sweden.
Thanks for the information, good job keep working to your followers from Dominican Republic
Flat Stanley(sp?) is awesome. That really put a smile on my face. My boy just turned 4, I can totally relate. Ian rules!
Flat Stanley is still around?!?! We took Flat Stanley on a tour of Seattle in the late 1980's or early 90's. I know it's not the same Flat Stanley, but still, it's nice to see him continuing his journeys.
I dig the videos. I'm a retired Navy Vet who is changing careers to welding.
Great Video Jody !! how can i prevent air bubbles, i had problems with the joint weld
on instrument steel (x20cr13) tig weld with argon i am not a welder but after the grind and heat treat i had some small spots like air bubbles we used the laserweld for that, and is it necessary to temperaturing the spot weld with a torch ?? i hope you can follow me a little bit with my bad english .thank you
Very fine, thaks for video. I'm doing some welding by TIG and will try do with silicon. Just fo hobby. Thanks.
thanks Jody great video.
Aww Man I could have used this upload about a month ago... I had to weld brass fixing brackets to bronze plate. I figured it for myself but those silicon bronze filler rods weren't cheap. Steep learning curve and plenty of ballz, but I got it done. Its the first time I ever had to weld those and I bet I'll never have to do it again lol. It was fun though.
The tig finger is the best thin I ever bought.
Love the videos and am subscribed. What would you suggest for welding 16 oz copper sheeting joints? Brazing? The finished product would be in a barbecue so soldering wouldn't cut it. Thanks!
Bring on those MIG & Stick welding videos!
I do a small amount of TIG - silver solder tacking at my job. Not much for lengthy welds. I have to try some silicon bronze brazing with TIG. See what I can do.
How do you properly match the sizing of your filler rod, tungsten, & cup with the material you are brazing? Is there a handy chart to link to & print out for reference? Thank you.
I'm using silicon bronze for small metal art projects. Which settings works best to get shinier finish?
Many thanks for your videos
Hi Jody I am new to Silicon Bronze,, as in I just got my first pound of Rod, I do not have an inverter machine but an older Syncro wave, My project is filling some metal plugs that helps a Smog pump in a 1984 Chevy in line 6 and are no longer needed, I thought filling these with Sil Brz would look nice,, What kind of electrode should I run and should I use AC or EN- Thanks in advance
Can you make a video to show us your technique and tools for welding bandsaw blades ?
Is Tig with Silicon bronze or aluminium bronze better than silver soldering them ?
Thanks in advance !!!
What dipstck added that you used in weldir , thank you.
When you do tig brazing do you still get the capillary attraction like with oxy-fuel brazing????????
hey Jody, what are your thoughts on silicon bronze mig wire?
Complete newby here - thanks for posting such interesting videos - what's a reccomended path for someone like me who has zero experience to start doing some simple metal repairs - I'm thinking brazing using aluminium or bronze - but is it better to start with TIG, MiG or Oxy Acetaline for example? What's a good minimum set of kit to start off with?
Hi Jody, I just bought a 10" logan lathe and, unfortunately, the two back gears each have a broken tooth. If I were to succeed in tig brazing the missing teeth with silicone bronze and re-machining them, will they be just as strong as the remaining cast iron teeth on the gears?
Malleable iron is a form of cast iron. It is heat treated to change the flake form of carbon changed to a spherodized form. Malleable iron is also referred to as ductile iron.
Jodi, where do you get your tig welding gloves (not tig finger, I have one but it's gonna need replaced) thanks
I have a question i need 100%Argon for this weld ??????...thanks
Damm your good at what u do
Where do you buy the endcaps?
Thanks
Could you use this process to weld a bike frame together ?
How many amps were you using on AC and the DC rule of 33? Looks far better than my experimental welds. Appreciate the videos!!
Is brazing stronger than tig steel rod welding of heat treated CrMo, High Ten, or CRS steel tubing?
Hi there, can you show how to tig weld/braze two pieces of bronze? Thanks
Without doubts, this best video about welding!
Love the video's, but I don't think you mentioned what size wire you were using..
Only tried silicon bronze with oxy - acetylene ? It works great. Might try to TIG it some time?
How much gas do you flow using that large cup with the defuser?
Flat Stanley can weld too? Awesome!!!
jody please reply with a yes or no can i tig braze silcon bronze 304 stainless steel
Can you make a video on the differences of when NOT to use Silicon Bonze VS. Aluminum Bonze. If that makes any sense. Thanks, and I appreciate the videos by far!!!
Jody,a little off topic, but on the subject of TIG brazing, my buddy the sculpture restorer does lots of repairs and on some funky brass and bronze will use ERCuSn-C, Also called Phos Bronze C. he says there is a mild cleaning action because of the Phosphorus....have you ever used this stuff? Best Regards on another Tips and Tricks Video that is well done, Paul
Paul Brown ahh wished he would of read your comment... im doing research on this subject .
i tried some Silicon Bronze today with a miller syncrove 250 DCEN thorated and the pure and i got a pretty fair amount of sputering for lack of a better word? when feeding the Silicon Bronze it spuwed bad. what could i be missing in my set up? aty recomendations for setting the welder? i set it like i would to weld steel. i was needing to braze ended up useing alluminium bronze. thanks pan
Thanks again Jody! As always, I wear my black "GO KNOCK IT OUT" t-shirt with pride! My wife recently caught me wearing my "TIG FINGER" and glove while cooking a T-bone on the grill! Did you know you can pick-up a burning charcoal with that TIG Finger?
love your work. i had a guy tell me you cant braze cast iron maniflod , is it possible with this set up?
You can braze cast manifolds and yes you can use this set-up you can also weld it with some good old 7018
Brian Wynn perhaps it cracks again after you do becuase they insisted it cannot be done even when i didnt agree, it was on a boat inboard
i tried si bronze tig. i tried it on angle iron, gound off scale and cleaned with solvent. cant get bronze to stick. i also tried on some 16 ga plate, solvent cleaned, got a blob to melt but wont wet out. not sure what i am doing wrong
Have you tried to tig braze with mag bronze? Is it possible?
TIG brazing looks like a really useful method of joining things. My question is, does it need an advanced TIG welder with HF start with all the functions I don't understand what they are for (pulsing and slope and perhaps more)? Or can you TIG braze using a simpler stick/tig welder that uses lift-tig start?
I've done it on my esab miniarc 161 Lts. It worked but after doing it...old grey cast repair i would def want ac control if I had to re do it to help clean oxides out of the puddle. Took a few tries of grinding out the bad so I could finally get nice clean metal to flow.
Hello, please help me. I want to weld 1mm brass and copper sheets. Today I have tryied to weld with silicon bronze rods, but it wont stick. When I set amps to 120, brass sheet was with burning holes. Please share your experience. It's very important to me. Thank you very much!
can this be done with titanium?
What if this wasn't silicon bronze, but rather the kind of bronze rod that's normally for gas-torch brazing? What would happen if the silicon weren't there?
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Why do you work with silicon brons. And does you not work with a normal filler rod.
Have you ever mig,ed with sil-bronze?seems like it would be good if ya need to keep the heat down.
chetyoder I know this is old but mig welding sil bronze reminds me of bubble gun the way it welds I use it often on galv
very very nice thanyou very much sir
Why TIG braze versus oxy-acet braze? Why braze instead of welding?
At 7:40 it feels like a how its made product intro lol
Could we see the finished piggy's? :)
I'm kind of surprised that nobody has asked about the flapper adapter. I went to the website for them and wanted to order one but my antivirus program blocked a suspicious download. Can't seem to find them anywhere else except Amazon and they say they are unavailable and one other tool supply that said they had one left.
I got a couple questions, I got a thermal arc lift tig. I would like to weld silicon bronze at some point using lift tig, is this possible? I am not sure what kind of versatility my machine has for different applications, I didn't buy the machine with the Tig torch. I just bought one today and have zero experience tig welding. I am going to practice and learn. Thanks for the videos! I subscribed and can't wait to learn. Cheers!
I'm amazed how delicate tig welding is. Once you get your ducks in a row it's almost automatic. Thank God for Tungsten! Got lucky and picked up a Miller syncrwave 350 for $1k. So my tig setup is complete. Ac and DC tig. Going good!
Greetings. Absolute novice here: What's the point of brazing that joint? What real world applications would require a brazed joint over a welded steel joint? Does it offer a strength or corrosion resistance benefit over just welding it?
Cheers
isnt pre heat required for welding cast to stop cracking from thetmal shock?
I think it's not as necessary if the cast itself is not ' melted '.
It's the molten cast iron that contracts as it solidifies. That's why you ' peen ' it to hammer expand it as it is contracting.
At least that's how I heard it explained.
Very nice video Jody, good arc-shots as always! One question though, how strong is a joint like this compared to a "normal" tig-weld on steel? Is it reasonable strong or will it break with a blow from a hammer? /Jonathan
He melts the Silicon Bronze filler rod around to make the two pieces "Stick" together. It's like a weld that doesn't mix with the base metal. The Silicon Bronze and the base metal he is welding on does not melt together like it would in a normal weld.
FN FlexorWolf
Yes, I know. But the question was how strong it got with this method?
sjowe I will try to do some destructive tests to show strength in a future vid
I've used silicon bronze quite a bit to join sheet metal. It allows you to use less heat which can be valuable in sheet metal repair. When I first started I did a bunch of destructive testing on my joints so I'd be sure I was using good technique and to have confidence in my welds. I found that in lap and butt joints that when I was using good technique that the base metals would rip on one side of the bead. The welds also showed good malleability and crack resistance when worked, how ever, I can't help but imagine things would be different on metal of any weight much above 20 gauge, but I've never seen any reason braze heavier steels. Keep in mind that it many ways, bronze is every bit as strong as steel, and the only reason the "Iron Age" is an advancement over the "Bronze Age" is that iron was strong enough, and far cheaper and more plentiful than the metals needed to make bronze, making decent metal tools available to far more people. With an ultimate tensile of 85,000 psi and and a yield of 55,000 psi, silicon bronze is stronger than A36 structural steel.
member548 Thank you for the detailed answer to my question. I could guess, as you mention above, that this method works good on sheet metal. I do some bodywork on cars from time to time and will sure try this braze-method next time. As most welders know, the problem with thin sheet metal and welding is distortion. You want a completely airtight seal but at the same time keep down heat buildup. /J
copper, bronze, braze, what's different between these things? im not English..
Is that a scratch start torch, don't see a button?
remote foot pedal
Is there any kind of rule of thumb for tig brazing amperage settings. Is one amp per .002" a good place to start or?
maintmech1245 I would say that would be a decent place to start. whatever amperage it takes to barely puddle the steel is pretty close.
weldingtipsandtricks Thank you sir! You're a huge help!
May I please ask, what's the easiest and cheapest way to braze small copper wires at 90 deg angle without a welder?
MRrwmac Will the copper wires need to flex any after joining?
No not at the braze done ting joint. It's for what's called a "Marble Machine". The copper is the track that the marbles run on similar to a Roller coaster. The joints I'm asking about doing are the small 1/8 dia copper rod supports connecting to same dia copper track. Hope that's not confusing and Thanks for any help.
MRrwmac At first I was thinking electrical wire. Now I get it. Good job with the word picture!
You might investigate 5-15% Sil-Fos or even 5-15% silver solder with the corresponding flux.
It looks a bit expensive at first look, but a little filler goes a long way, especially on 1/8" diameter materials. Look around on Amazon, MSC, Brownells or even eBay for good deals.
With the correct flux, the low temp versions will usually flow without too much difficulty using an inexpensive handheld propane or MAPP gas torch.
There is a UA-cam video called "Brazing Copper to Copper with Sil-Fos" that may give you some insight.
Glad to be of any assistance. Good luck with your project!
Try silver solder. Get it from a jewelry supply store or on-line at Rio Grande. You need to use a flux - I like Dandix. I use a very small propane torch. Remember to heat the metal, not the solder. (Silver solder comes with different melting points - hard, medium, easy and very easy. This is for complex jewelry fabrications. For what you are doing, you should stick with hard or medium for strength.)
Sounds good. I'll give those a try. Thank you all for your help and advise!
I understand Harris has been fabricating motorcycle frames for 30 or more years for street and racing.They use a british high manganese T-45 aircraft tubing with a specific bronze welding rod with both having a tensile strength of 85,000 psi. They are welded using a a gas aircraft torch; one big advantage of this is much smaller chance of grain growth and stress, brazing at 1600 to 1800 degrees F compared to tig fusion welding at 2500 degrees and up particularly with chromoly which should never be brazed. Both T-45 and 4130 chromoly were designed during WWII for the same purpose: engine mounts for Fighter and Bomber aircraft. Tig welding wasn't perfected until after the war. For chromoly to achieve its maximum strength of over 100,000 psi it must be stress relieved and heat treated after welding. As a bladesmith well versed in forging, grain growth, normalizing and heat treat I think a lot of people tend to give the british practice of bronze welding short shrift. After all the Land speed record Car Thrust II was built of T-45.The only similar steel available in the US is Reynolds 631 a steel used in high end steel framed bicycles. I don't why a US steel maker doesn't make a US version of T-45 It's much more forgiving than Chromoly.
why does that look so damn pretty? I wish those welds held up better than normal ones. But one weird question, could you do a tig weld, and then after go over with silicone bronze with a nice pattern without damaging or weaken the other weld underneath? Or am I stupid for asking? :)
LOUDPIPES SAVELIVES some chopper builders go over a tig weld using silicon bronze for pure aesthetics. It looks cool but if a crack develops in the weld underneath, you wouldnt see it for a while.
Quiet pipes save eardrums. What?
if i dont have a tig , can i stick weld stainless steal ???????...if so what rod or special equipment needed ...............
u can buy a rod for stainless steel and using stick welding to weld. it work but it does look not so beautiful.. that's why they normally use tig for welding stainless steel..
What type of tungsten is the best to use For bronze welding?on a tig torch
+Alambique Mejico Use a lanthanated tungsten
+MechV thanks..buddy
You were moving your thumb on the filler material hand twice per dip. Are you advancing the filler material in your hand by moving your thumb? Do you discuss this in another video?
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Where do you get the aluminum bronze? Everytime I ask about it I get a funny look.
bikefreek you probably wont find it at a welding supply store. but I have ordered aluminum bronze a2 tig rod from Amazon
bikefreek My Airgas store carries Harris Aluminum Bronze A2 rod 1/16, 3/32 & 1/8 in 10# boxes, pricey, but you can many times sweet talk them into selling smaller quantities by the pound.
Online shopping (Amazon or others) may be easier and cheaper than getting some wholesalers to sell over the counter to you as a walkin consumer without an account or proof of business license and tax ID.
My Airgas store is where I get the funny looks...lol
is it possible to weld this metals with 6013 electrodes ?
i have many of them .
+toolman talal 6013 electrodes are for steel. They won't work very good on cast iron, your weld will crack
+MechV thank you
How come the last one did not have the stack of dimes look like your practice shots? Was that due to the gas coverage as well?
IIIsticksone yep, I am pretty sure it was the cup along with using pulse. the small cup allows for quite a bit of oxidation and that also increases need for more amps to flow the puddle....once you get to a certain heat, ripples disappear. but good enough for a piggy bank and made my near empty tank of argon last longer.
weldingtipsandtricks Thanks! I have had trouble getting the stack of dimes look with silcon bronze and this will hopefully help.
I can't find the equivalency of silicon bronze in french
found a typo on you site.
tig welding copper to steels
Silicon bronze works for joining copper to stainless steel as well as stainless steel.
oops
Timothy Jones thanks bro, its fixed now
what are the chances of a video to go over welding brass to copper? tig? oxy/acc?
Oink oink. I bet they turned out just fine. Like ur idea about tack welding the only way to get the money out.
in all youre videos you try difrent settings but the resoults are, almost the same... that rezoults that the welder make the difrents not the setup... I thik that you even on the badest setup you shurly can make a good weld
I don't understand why you keep calling it welding Silicon Bronze, it's not because people call TIG brazing welding that it's welding! Regards, Matthew
old habits....like saying TIG instead of GTAW
Interesting, as a Brit, I've always said TIG. Having dabbled in welding and brazing for over forty years, it's always seemed essential to explain to people the difference between welding and brazing, I may be nit picking but it seems fundamental to me! Thank you for all that you've taught me my subscription to you channel has been extremely useful to me. Regards, Matthew
How about keeping your tungsten out of the weld for educational videos? No touchy touchy! bad bad