Every Bible Reference in Fontaine's Archon Quest! | Full 4.2 & Focalors Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Did Mihoyo just retell the Easter Story? Terry explains Furina's links to the crucifixion and so much more! Join her in going through each reference to the Easter Story, plus some bonus Noah's Ark connections in Genshin's 4.2 Update.
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TimeStamps
00:00 Intro
00:44 Other Regions
1:33 Noah's Ark
2:12 Original Sin
3:33 Palm Sunday
4:08 Plotting to Arrest Furina
4:35 The Garden
5:22 Devil Aether
5:54 God on Trial
7:40 God's Plan
8:13 Focalors Execution
9:08 The Crucifixion Connection
9:50 The Holy Spirit
10:10 Surviving the Apocalypse
10:30 Supernatural Events
11:43 The Resurrection
12:04 The Ascension
12:44 Outro - Ігри
The fact that Furina can walk on water is just so perfect
The very name of the Opera: "Épiclèse", is French for Epiclesis which is a very important part of the Eucharist aka the Holy Mass. It is during this part, where the priest prays to the Holy Spirit to turn the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ, the Lamb of God, through whose shedding of his blood humanity's sins have been washed away. So Focalors' line "I suppose now you understand why your court is called Opera Epiclese" makes so much sense now.
Immediately after the quest I made such a connection: Egeria - God the Father (creator), Focalors - Holy spirit (divinity), Furina - God the Son (human)
Egeria has mote in common with eve, created by the heavens, the first mother, o herited the original sin to her children, focalors would be Mary, the holy mother that trought divine power would give birth to the savior (Furina)
Yes I found that aspects of the trinity were not isolated to one specific character. The only easy one is to say that Furina is Jesus. Focalors lack of physical form and link to the power of the hydro archon definitely implied a connection to the holy spirit. And while she was also the one to create Furina suggesting a connection to Mary or God the Father. She also said the famous phrase "be not afraid" to Furina. Putting Furina in the role of Mary in that moment. Even though in the rest she is very much Jesus.
i think Neuvillette would fit the father being the one to forgive their sins
@@Kurukururin12 That's definitely a way to see it too! I just felt like he had to little control over defying the prophecy to be linked to the one in charge of everything.
I think it more like Christ's Nestorian natures, one divine nature and one human nature that are separated.
I love how at 5:50, Aether is beside a trident/pitchfork, and Furina beside a light and some fish. Very Satan/Jesus indeed. Also, Paimon is a demon very loyal to Lucifer, and Lucifer means 'lightbringer', of course! And the Traveler is literally a fallen angel/star (morning star?) They're Satan more often than just here :P
holy fuck youre right
I caught on to a few of the references, the great flood, the fact Furina can literally walk on water. I didn't know it was this deep though, very nice video.
haha deep. Because water.
I'm planning a speedpaint series. Many of my fellow Christians would quickly call Genshin Impact demonic, writing it off that way. But Genshin Impact brought me closer to God and Christianity. Nowadays many christians fear the devil more than they love God, and so they are looking for the devil in things rather than the God in things.
Each of the Archons, in my eyes at least, relate back to God in some way... at least im my mind. Venti, god of freedom relates to the Christian God's desire for free will, and Venti has been very active, but because he wants to maintain free will, he acts in the background. Zhongli reminds my of God keeping his promises and covenants, never flooding the world again, promising to send his only son, leading Moses's people out of bondage; even the faked death of Morax reminds me of the shift from old to new Testament, how God acts with more subtlety. Ei is a perfect example of not easily understanding God's mind, no one understood why Ei revoked visions, but it was a conclusion she came to for her people.
Nahida is a perfect example of God's love and capacity for love. Nahida did the most to protect and ensure the safety of her people despite heing imprisoned and not even being seen as abgod worth worship. Much like how God still loves his children and is always there to help as soon as you turn to him. And Focalor/Furina is peak Jesus; Focalor splitting her humanity and soul from her divinity, sacrificing herself, need I say more.
Genshin Impact is an amazing game
I am glad Genshin has helped you on your journey. It is true some Christians might see these references as coming from a harmful place. It's why I worried about offending both "sides" with this sort of video. Many do not want to be told when Christianity or any religion is in the media they enjoy. While others are offended the media would dare to reference "their" religion. If there is a wrong way to represent the stories in the Bible I do not believe Mihoyo is doing it.
Genshin in my opinion is an attempt by a Chinese Creator to summarize as many cultural philosophies and beliefs as possible for an isolated chinese young adult demographic. To start conversation and intrigue about the world outside of China. In that context it is nice to see Christianity included. Christians should Want the Bible referenced in a game reaching millions of people, not just in China but across the Globe that have never had or bothered to have access to a bible.
Another commenter mentioned it, but the 7 Archons can be lined up with the 7 spirits of god. Which are said to be 7 parts or aspects that come together to create the holy spirit. So not just the gnostic demons people usually point to. So you connecting each Archon to an Aspect of God is an accurate way to look at it.
funnily enough venti's real name, barbatos is taken from the 72 demons in the lesser key of solomon
@RandomDrizzile not sure abt bu'er and focalors, but it's true for the rest
@RandomDrizzile never knew abt that
I wonder what aspects Muretta and Tsaritsa embody. 🤔
Some other things:
1. The sign of Jonah with the Narwhal.
2. Wriothesley's similarity to Joseph son of Jacob. He's like a mishmash of multiple characters. His fighting style is similar to Jacob's and of course his Noah's ark.
3. The Harrowing of Hell would be paralleled with how Neuvillette and Traveler fight the Narwhal.
4. Satan literally means Accuser. That was on point the Traveler in this case.
I suppose most other things are covered really well by the video already. Great video!
Really well done by Hoyo's writers!
I'm 6 months late lmao but to add to 1), Childe is straight up Jonah; since he fell into the abyss and saw the whale, then emerged after 3 days. Also there's an achievement for killing the knight (which is implied to be a memory/remnant/phantom of childe) in the whale's mouth without getting hit by its phantoms that's straight up titled Three Days and Nights in the Belly of the Great Fish
I think some of the references you draw are questionable but all in all I love how Hoyo intertwined all these topics into the quest. The fact that there are many references to christianity is undisputable, but so are references to French revolution and to game's own story. Hence the blade that killed Focalors is both a cross, a guillotine, and an Oceanid.
And I'll be honest I love that Hoyo did it this way. Christianity is unseparable part of European history and culture and I think that despite some creative freedom they used to mix things up, they represented it very well in the story.
Yeah there are definitely some that are more clear cut than others. But I wanted to mention all the possible ones that I could for sure find sources for. I actually left out Jonah for this reason.
I never studied the French Revolution and I personally banned myself from ever trying to pronounce french words I only ever read as text. So other than the obvious guillotine and Furina's love of cake. There wasn't anything I felt like I could bring to the table on that front.
It is very true Christianity is heavily linked to European kingdoms post the Roman empire. I'm just happy to see Mihoyo was confident enough to include it in more than just the architecture. They could have just done the cross tombstones and left it there. But they worked it into the main story wonderfully.
Its been there from the beginning. All the archons are demons, and the Traveler is literally Lucifer.
@@nathanpapp432yes!! Genshin impact is demonic
@@Faith_saves7 Bro, chill. The devs are big NGE fans.
Furina being a perfect human said by Focalor is also matches this theory
and how she walked on water 😩🤌
@@jadengalicia7719 kokomi: objection!
@@jadengalicia7719she is technically the Hydro archon, and it makes sense that the Hydro archon should walk on liquid.
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But she has no archon powers,she is actually doing it ONLY with her vision which makes her more Jesus
@@Among-Us-logo-wi6nb LMFAO yeah it’s like a jesus situation
i knew somehow the concept of the biblical crucifixion was implemented in this story but i didn't realize how some points and situations in this archon quest is very much told in the holy book as well. all those aside, as for my opinion, i find it enjoyable that somehow, my religion is to be implemented in this game, as to show how such stories can be inspiring and meaningful. thank you for making this video and making it not just enjoyable but also educational. ❤
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yes my main goal was to show that Christianity was included in genshin, but to also show it was done with respect to the source material. This wasn't done as a joke or to "get points" for referencing the Bible. But because they believed the story fit the discussion of justice and sacrifice they wanted to tell.
@@dougligamingThat's exactly why I, as a Christian, enjoyed it so much! Usually in fiction many biblical references are either taken out of context or just in very poor taste, it's one of the rare situations where I've seen an actually respectful reference that showed the writers understood the main messages of Christianity (about love and redemption) and implemented them in such as nice way - that's what makes this Archon Quest so amazing!!
not just christian. they also use other religion as a reference, like a place in sumeru being name after yajuj and majuj (if i remember correctly), al-haitham which is actually a very known muslim mathematician and scientist, so on. also in their other game (honkai impact) some aspects of the game are inspired by christianity like a cross being used as a weapon, usage of saint, churches, characters like theressa dressing like a nun, etc.
@@Pokedeus i guess you should try to get into smt.
@@Hymn_ What you described in the other message is unfortunately exactly what I don't like: crosses, people dressing like nuns are just objects empty of their meaning - when I see this, I actually frown upon these kind of "references". Why Genshin was better was because 1) it was subtle about the reference (more in the names than in the obvious objects themselves) and 2) it understood the meaning of those objects or situations, and then proceeded to carry it over to the game - THAT is the important part, the message you carry together with the symbolism!
Not biblically related but I also like to point out that Focalors specifically also has some connections with Marie Antoinette, and the sword above her represents the guillotine and how she died. Focalors removing her position as the Hydro Archon (and the seat with it) also parallels to MA being the last queen of France. Additionally, their hair, Focalors has longer, fuller hair and Furina (Ousia form) had short hair, prior to her execution, Marie's hair is cut short and in Furina's splash art, she is shown in her ousia form which is the short hair.
Excellent work. Only someone with a great understanding of Christianity and Fontaine's Arcon Quest could see so many of these similarities. Some might object to the Father and Son being potrayed as females, but the parallels cannot be dismissed. The writers of Fontaine's Arcon Quest tapped into a timeless story of love, sacrifice, and salvation. There's a reason why millions of people around the world find hope in the overarching story of the Bible.
Because people love imaginary friends and archetypes. That's it.
In every culture there's also a story about a bread or a cookie that ran away, so there's that.
@@AA-cf4es Someone's fishing with those words. Not interested. Besides the only story I know about food running away is a song about a meatball that fell off the table and rolled out the door.
Nah. I dont really care if The Trinity was portrayed as females (only extremists would). As long as His acts and love were retold well, Im not gonna object.
Pretty clear that both genshin and bible took their inspiration from old folklores so you will feel Dejavu when you read their stories.
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Considering how many non-Christian elements Hoyo put in the game, most notably using the word “god” too lightly, I was pleasantly surprised when playing the Fontaine aq and seeing so many genuine references to Christianity, and your video was very good, covering some aspects which I also missed, but also I’m surprised you didn’t mention how Fontaine is the nation of trials, and after everyone dies they also get suscepted to trial (kinda like Navia did except not about dying or being brought back). Overall great video, you definitely deserve more than 100 subs!
oh shit that's such a good observation!! thank you for sharing ahhh
I've been trying to find this video for the last week - only it didn't exist yet! Thank you for making it!
Also is the underwater prison secretly Hell/Purgatory and Wriosthesley a reluctant lucifer, a fallen angel to rule over it? The symbolism of Up/down Light/dark Water/Fire etc is so strong there.
Lol I was planning to post it last week, but then left for thanksgiving holiday things. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Possibly! I'll admit I haven't done Wriothesley's Character quest and assumed it just hinted at the Noah narrative some more. But with how positively Mihoyo tries to spin Prison life I struggle to see it being meant to be a hell on earth. If that makes sense? Like it's definitely being cast down at god's judgement and the Captain in Neuvillette's character story could definitely be seen as the casting out of a fallen angel. But the prison itself doesn't feel like a hell. . . Tho the cylinder/ring design is sus now that I think about it. Like I know there aren't 7 rings or levels. But if there were. hmmm
@@dougligaming "Like I know there aren't 7 rings or levels."
if you go to the interactive map or the in-game map, there are 6 pieces of map that are part of Meropide if you click on it: the Reception Area, the Dorm Block, the Admin Area, the Upper Production Zone, the Lower Production Zone, and the Abandoned Production Zone... which leaves us one short... until you remember... there's also the abandoned area from Wriothesley's Character Quest...
also, there's something worth noting about Wrio both having Cerberus as a motif while also being a Cryo character (in Dante's Inferno, the lowest circle of Hell isn't fiery, it's frozen)...
just food for thought
It's not the first time hoyo did this too, they did it on Honkai Impact 3rd too, mainly Elysian Realm. I love the Jesus in my games, Elysia and Furina/Focalor ❤
I did not know that! I will admit I never got into Honkai Impact 3rd. But I am curious about what hints they will put in star rail down the road.
ah yes, pink elf jesus
@@Kurukururin12 Yup
the Perfect Human - Furina
the Pristine Human - Elysia
otto literally used a cross as a weapon
Truly a "god and anime on my side" moment
Now that I think about it, the scene where Furina walks out of the opera with her hand on the pillar kinda reminds me of the famous painting of Jesus rising from the dead with his hand on the frame of the cave opening. Although it might be too general of a pose to be called a reference
I definitely felt a connection to walking out of the tomb into the light with that shot. It's why I included it in it's entirety and why I didn't consider the resurrection completely glossed over. It just felt hard to put into words? Like the parting of the clouds also gave off a religious vibe, but it's not easy to explain so I just let the images speak for themselves. Which i assume was the writers intent as well. Keep it vague but those who recognize it will know.
This was such a lovely video! I love videos like these, they make me really think and go bacj and contemplate. You did an excellent job!
I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet. I felt like it was a pretty huge part of the Fontaine archon quest.
Yes I was honestly worried I was posting this video too late. But then no one else has made a full video on it yet to my surprise. It was mostly reddit posts lol. I used them to make sure I didn't miss any major one's, but i'm also sure I mentioned some that weren't on any of those posts.
@@dougligaming Actually I've already seen one but it's for Furina and not Fontaine's archon quests
@@dougligamingyou did an amazing job! Didn’t even realize this channel had less than 10k subscribers.
I myself am not Christian (atheist/agnostic) but I always really, really enjoy how Hoyo brings the real world into Genshin! It’s just really cool seeing references to real life and learning more things, and honestly, not in a disrespectful way or anything, Furina’s/Focalor’s sacrifice is what made me understand why people respect Jesus so much.
as a muslim, i too agree
As an atheist, I agree about the connections.
Wow, what an excellent video! Very entertaining and informative, with clear points and good editing. I truly learned a lot
I'm glad I was able to keep it entertaining! Informational videos like this can be dense at times so I at least try to avoid them being a boring 13 minutes.
this is actually so so fun. im so proud that i thought of some of this while playing through the quest. but some of this? i never would have thought of. its awesome
Let's not forget that there are multiple thesis that stated that The Bible may serve as a basis to every, or most, dramatic texts/ theater plays
TRULY AMAZING WORK, THE ANALYSES ARE VERY WELL DEPICTED. So it wasnt only me drawing these paralels.
My jaw dropped the entire time you explained these parallels so well
Nice! I didn't think of half of these! This was a really well done video with great organization. By the way hint hint nudge nudge, if you make a Christianity and Sumeru video like you mentioned in the intro, I would love to watch that as well!
this video was so good, i hope you can make more with biblical references in the future, because those are always so interesting to watch
Traveler being a Judas allegory here isn't THAT surprising/evil sounding when you consider that their backstory and stuff kinda points to them being Lucifer in the naming conventions of the gods of Teyvat
just means Mihoyo is being consistent I guess lol
so crazy!! i definitely caught a few of these while playing, and i really don't even pay a lot of attention to archon quests. didnt know there were just so MANY references!! and at the end, i never knew that Furina could walk in water til now!😂 great work
yeah you don't learn the walking on water bit unless you got her from the banner. I didn't so I had to use another players footage of them running across the ocean.
no freaking way u having less than 200 subs this must be a joke bc this is prolly the best researched genshin lore video of the recent region!!
u actually showed evidence. bc i was noticing it too while playing. can i ask if u for urself believe in god?
i hope u got more to come maybe on narzissenkreuz jewish cabalah or the abyss maybe resembling the hell and what i hope the most is the primordial one
im just stoked rn haha ur knowledge is amazing u even talked about torah and the temple just wow. creating and editing those videos are truly complex so the biggest respect to u fr.
much love from germany
forgot to mention but ur voice is really relaxing too!
There is a quest called Book of Esoteric Revelations lol. Alchemical, esoteric, gnostic, kabalah stuff is all arround the world of Genshin. I first played this game thinking it was another cute anime girl exploration rpg, but no. It's full of references to religions and sects and philosophy. Its crazy and really entertaining to be honest.
They know what they are cooking.
Very good video. Shows ur understanding of scripture. Fontaine's story is super poetic, and now I know more why and how they did it. I cant believe I missed these. Good job
Thank you! Finding the right passages took the most time when making this video. And I'm glad I was able to help point out how mihoyo built fontaine's story to be as good as it was.
ngl I'm so hyped now! controversial or not, those parallels are insanely cool. thank you for this videk!
This game is literally demonic. The “church of Barbartos”??
Excellent video! While I think some of these points could be debatable to some people, I think it's hard to argue that the overall theme of this archon quest wasn't going in this direction, especially with how much Hoyoverse regularly pulls from the Bible, Torah, and related religions, especially in Genshin.
I'd also like to add that this "retelling" of Jesus' story had a lot of touches inspired by the more gnostic interpretations of this particular story especially in the relationship between Jesus & Judas.
I'm glad you weren't put off from making this type of video given it's potentially touchy subject matter. Regardless of religious beliefs, I think it's cool to analyze and point out parallels between stories like this, especially ones that mean a lot both historically and to many people. Again, great video, I'd love to see more of these types of videos in the future!
I've looked into Gnostism when it comes to the Archons, like most. But I admit I did not think to check it's version of the crucifixion. I was jumping between all four gospels when looking for verses. It made me assume they had watched an adaptation that used these references instead of actively pulling from all four versions. And I had simply never seen that adaptation. (I've never watched the Passion of the Christ) But I'll have to check the gnostic version. thank you!
I will admit i was nervous and that is why the disclaimer is there. But I had hoped that if I respectfully provided all the information including the sources I pulled from I could avoid offending most people. And I'm happy to say it seems to have worked. With most of the comments being respectful discussion. Which is all I want. I love discussing world building and cultural references like these. Stories shouldn't be afraid to build from what came before and healthy analysis of those connections is just part of reading and interpreting literature.
I miiiight me making a Nahida Christmas video in the coming weeks. We'll see if I can respectfully poke a sleeping bear twice lol.
This might be my favorite Genshin lore video. 😊 As a Christian, I really appreciated you showing all those references, a lot of which I had missed. Great content! God bless you ❤
But it’s blasphemy, isn’t it? Look, the “church of Barbatos”? Really? That’s so demonic
@@Faith_saves7 Bruh it’s just a game, a piece of fiction, that church doesn’t exist in real life. It’s not that deep. If anything, the Christian references have been strengthening my faith. 🙏 But you do you
I've just subscribed because of this video.
Thank you! I worked very hard on it
Very well put together! I grew up in a Christian school but don't remember a whole lot. I knew about the references in the Fontaine story but didn't realize how far it went!
I was actually kind of surprised you didn't bring up how Neuvillette is probably supposed to be Leviathan, though I get how it didn't really fit with the theme of the rest of the video. Also how when Furina first meets "Mirror-me," Focalors introduces herself the way angels and God usually introduce themselves ("Be not nervous. Be not afraid. I am before you"). I thought those were super on the nose when it comes to Biblical references.
Also, I was wondering if you have any insight to the connection I've heard about that Furina and Neuvillette have to the Whore of Babylon and the beast that always accompanies her. The connection being that the beast in the Bible is either the same thing/described the same way as Leviathan(?). Said beast would eventually betray the Whore of Babylon (like how Neuvillette sentenced Furina guilty).
I thought it was kind of ironic given that Furina is our Jesus metaphor, but Genshin's never shied away from flip-flopping story lines. Revelation in general is really cool sounding and really confusing. The connection is a lot more vague because a lot of stuff I see conflicts or draws from different interpretations. I thought it was interesting and figured you might be able to untangle that a bit.
I know that further Biblical references are in the Fontaine story, though they're kind of scattered everywhere, like the presence of a big whale that swallows you (Jonah (yeah it was technically a big fish but that's not stopping pop culture)). Pretty cool how dedicated they were with all this.
I honestly forgot the Leviathan one. I noticed it back in 3.8 that the hydro dragon was being linked to Leviathan, but we didn't even know who Neuvillette was at the time. And the Hydro dragon hasn't been called Leviathan since. I got distracted by Apep at the time lol
The beast in Revelation being described like the Leviathan is because they are the closest references to dragons the bible has along with the Behemoth. Tho I swore when I was reading those passages the Revelations one was called the Red Dragon? I could be misremembering. Either way the "whore" of Babylon was supposed to be the nation itself and not one specific ruler. Babylon like Egypt was described with she/her pronouns in the bible. I can't say if Neuvillette being a dragon and being the one to betray Furina is intentionally connecting to these verses. As Mihoyo's references to Babylon have been firmly rooted in Sumeru lore.
Revelation is something actual christian scholars have huge debates about. So I'm not surprised any intentional references to it are kept to the basic "end of the world". There is an achievement called "Do you believe in Rapture?" that came out with Fontaine in 4.0. But I only just obtained it and so didn't have footage or knowledge of it to include it in the video. If they do reference Revelation more I will not be surprised if it's during the battle against Celestia. So in link 2 more years I'll probably be making a video about that lol.
I actually had a version of the outro that included Childe and the whale being a Jonah reference. But when looking back through the footage I realized he did not leap out from its mouth like I had originally assumed. He leaps out of the portal behind it. But because the portal and the whales mouth have a similar blue effect at a quick glance I assumed it had swallowed him for a second. The whale trying to eat Fontainian's felt like to quick of a thing compared to the entire Flood narrative to be worth mentioning without the Childe bit, so I cut it instead of rerecording it.
With the release of this archon quest I had 2 observations that I loved in the first few weeks:
1. People started debating on whether Focalors and Furina were the exact same or completely separate entities, and well, this had very "first 4 ecumenical councils" energy. As people started calling each other stupid, illiterate, I'm like, damn, so this was what sitting as a member of the councils felt like XD
2. The large change of attitude by parts of community towards Furina, even among the strongest haters, really does have a Peter the Apostle and the start of the "Jesus cult" that would become Christianity XD
I like how both made me feel like I saw some insight into historical mass conversion events.
Damn Mihoyo, first the Sumeru Akademia being an Iranian theocracy allegory, now this, truly incredible.
WTF will they be doing for Natlan?
From the little info we've heard, are they doing the Aztec Flower Wars?
Is an external force going to topple the battle dome?
If they tackle the Spanish conquests, oh boy, I do not look forward to being on the internet.
Mihoyo kept it vague on if Furina is Gnostic Jesus or Bible Jesus. And that vagueness has led to fans recreating the 1st century theological debate around that very subject and I am living for it. If they keep at it I might have enough to write a dissertation on it lol
All I know for Natlan is the Aztec version of a Dragon is terrifying and if that's how the Pyro dragon sovereign looks we are screwed. They also already did human sacrifices in Inazuma with Ruu. So they're going to have to come up with a new shock factor for Natlan.
Man how do you do such great videos with so little views and subs
I have been waiting for someone to compile these! As a Christian myself, I noticed the Biblical references immediately. I’m so glad someone finally covered them. ☺️
as a Catholic, I spotted a lot of these biblical references while playing through the quest and afterward and I'm glad someone has made a video about this! A thing I want to add: the story of Noah and the flood is a "type" (google's definition: a person, a thing, or an action, having its own independent and absolute existence, but at the same time intended by God to prefigure a future person, thing, or action) of baptism. So, it's quite appropriate to link Noah's story and the baptism of the people of Fontaine.
On a bit of a side note, i think there's a note near the teleport at the tower in the new Fontaine area that mentions something about baptism...I don't quite remember tho...
Anyway, great video! o/ Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents here....hehe
i had this in the back of my mind omg
Great video! Interestingly, water can also be used to explain the Trinity. It can have the form of a gas, solid, or liquid, but it’s still water. In the same way, we have the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit - God in three persons. One flaw of this analogy is that water cannot exist in these three forms simultaneously, while that is true of the Trinity. He is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit all at the same time.
I've never made that water connection before, but true! It's unfortunate gas (Anemo) and solid (Cryo) are already other elements in the game. It would have been cool to see Furina manipulate water in all 3 of it's forms. I know in other magic systems water mages are sometimes allowed to manipulate Ice to an extent.
Very nice video, many details and precise citations de the Bible - it's extremely professional! I'm currently trying to write a post on my personal blog about the subject, and I have an alternative take on Focalors being God the Father vs Furina being the Christ. Actually, when meeting Neuvillette, Focalors insists a lot on having "separated her divinity (Focalors) from her humanity (Furina)" so if we were trying to for dogmatic comparisons, actually it's really the non-split Focalors who is like the Christ, as He contains both divine and human nature in one body (cf. A lot of heresy discussions in early christiniaty), so basically Furina and Focalors are Jesus only together. But obviously from the thematic (and not dogmatic) point of view, Focalors behaves like the Father because she sends Furina on the earth to suffer.
I mean it makes sense that hoyo would put a lot of biblical references in a region inspired by France. France was heavily catholic Christian for a long time
even though i'm not christian, i'm so down with easter egg video like this! thanks!💕
happy to provide the easter eggs!
I'm sleepy so this is short, but I find it fascinating the way the Narzissenkreuz arc (and many other parts of Genshin) draw heavily from Gnostic texts, while the main archon quest follows closer to mainline Christianity
Nice! I picked up on most of these references, except the ones a layperson like myself may not recognise, like Gethsemene. I also didn't make the connection of the Traveler being Judas! Just goes to show that the long tradition of religion inspiring works of art continues unabated to this day. From the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to Chinese gacha mobile games. XD Speaking of, I wonder how recognizable all of these references would be in the Chinese market. I doubt these references are quite as difficult for the Chinese Genshin audience to recognize as the Chinese references are for us, though.
Yeah Christian imagery has been common in Japanese anime for a while. So I assume any Chinese players that also consume foreign anime might be able to pick up on the bigger pieces. I've been told the creator worked these sorts of references into Honkai Impact 3rd and Star Rail. So I can only assume there's Chinese lore nerds like me who are used to digging through all the references. Or at least know to keep an eye out for them.
THANKS, I just thought of all the references just now. How is this theme not touched so much? Genshin community goes crazy over cultural references.
I feel like the sword was supposed to represent Damocles rather then a cross.
Ah I had not heard of the Sword of Damocles, but I looked it up after your comment. And that does seem to be where they got the idea of the floating sword from. It's cool to learn of another thing they pulled from to build this scene! Obviously the crucifixion and the french revolution didn't have many swords used in the executions. I had assumed the sword was a censorship choice but it seems they did have meaning behind it as well!
It's freaking hilarious how the similarities between the Traveler and literal SATAN keep piling up xD
yeah i find it funny that this is not the first time Traveler has been linked to Satan. Like how many more references can they possibly hid in here? Oh wait I should probably see if Satan is linked to the fall of Babylon Prophecies. Cause Traveler did help Jeht kill Matriarch Babel.
I LOVE how Hoyo made our Hero the Satan in this story. It makes it so much more interesting than the typical hero=jesus analogies you always see
When I played the game, it really reminded me the trial and sacrifice of Jesus.
I'll be honest I didn't start putting it together in my play through until Focalors' speech. at which point I thought back on the trial and went ohhhhhhh
came back here bc i just remembered the theories of teyvat being hell, and like, the traveller being represented as satan there at least for a moment idk kinda makes sense also bc of them coming from somewhere else and falling from the sky- my catholic-raised-ass doesn't remember much but wasn't him sorta a fallen angel?
peak writing
5:23 What was Edgetho's line again? Oh yeah! "Companion of that tyrant, 'fate,' the traveler known as 'calamity'!" Is he correct? Or something else is fishy... What about the root cause?
Well i am glad i am not the only one that noticed this. The walking on water. The sacrifices of the god, the sin
good interpretation
thank you!
Bruh when i first saw the thumbnail i thought it was an ad lmao
i apologize lol. tho i'm curious about what sort of genshin ads you're getting
@@dougligaming not just genshin ads, any ads in general and they're usually as colorful as this.
it looks like a sword of Damocles
Yeah I had another comment point me towards this sword. I'll admit I didn't know floating execution swords were already a thing in myth before making this video.
I've been saying Furina is jesus ever since I saw her walk on water, everything just fits so perfectly
I had noticed that there were biblical references in this archon quest, but I’m glad someone was able to break down all of it.
Also, I have to agree that the ending was a bit rushed. Genshin has phenomenal story telling, but it suffers from pacing issues.
Makes sense the Traveller is Satan, since he seems like the closest character we have to Lucifer.
I mean, look at their names
Lumine and Aether
Which both allude to light
Like Lucifer
And could also represent adam and Eve
The "fall" like how they fell into teyvat
@@tirramasu7948 exactly & dont forget satans truest companion is literally called paimon
this makes me question how mihoyo is possibly goin on here bc i feel like the real real primordial one has to be inspired by god the father then or am i wrong? i need answers haha
@yumi2k Hmm, what if Teyvat is also an allegory for the Garden of Eden
And knowing what we know of Descenders
The traveller fell but then tainted the course of fate in Teyvat
im only familiar with the big general ideas in the bible but it’s crazy how i didn’t make the connection at all, when i saw the ark and the bird i was only thinking of before sun and moon
The sun and the moon? I'm sorry but I've not heard of that connection before. Now I'm curious about what other things they were referencing with this scene. Which story has the sun and moon reference you mentioned? I'd love to go look it up!
@@dougligaming oh, “before sun and moon” is a book in genshin found in enkanomiya. if you played through the quest, it was that book that enjou, the abyss pyro guy tried to steal because it contained forbidden knowledge. that book has a lot of information on how teyvat itself was created, and at the start there was a major reference to noah’s ark. if you wanna know more about it i suggest watching ashikai’s videos on the topic!
Ohhhhhh I thought there was another story outside of genshin. Yeah I at least knew the timeline of events from that story even if I hadn't sat down and read the in game text. I knew Enkanomiya was a reference to Atlantis getting swallowed by the sea and then being forgotten until Greek scholars found text describing the disaster in Egypt. But I didn't know it was also alluding to the Ark! That's cool!
kinda out of context, but in one of hoyo's other game, honkai impact 3rd. there are few characters that used a cross as a weapon.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw all these references. But you saw a lot more. Dang, I feel bad, now, being the 'Judas' in the story. It actually goes along with many theories that say the Traveler is Lucifer, as the Bible says that Judas was used by Satan to betray Jesus. Ugh~ Say it ain't so!!!
It's not much, but I wanted to add that two of Neuvillette's battle lines immediately reminded me of Bible quotes: "Be sanctified" and "Let the mighty be humbled!" Speaking of which, I don't know how I think of him as being the 'Leviathan', as many Christians view that creature as the Devil himself; though some just think of the Leviathan as a beautiful, mighty creature that only God could create. Whenever I read that verse, I just assumed it was describing a dinosaur.
One of the things I really wanted to touch upon in my own videos but never did was something called "The Genesis Gap". Not too many believe in this concept, I've only heard it spoken of by one preacher who says dinosaurs never existed: This theory explains why God is floating over the waters with waters above him just before he created Earth and everything on it; because the entire universe had a Great Flood to kill all the evil that had run rampant. In other words, space was flooded and that got me thinking: Is the Primordial Sea in space? That would explain the narwhal breaking through what looks like a glass dome; the glass dome being the fake sky or 'Veil'. Continuing the Genesis Gap story, what evil that was running rampant was thought to be . . . Dragons. Ruled over by Satan. (All those dinosaur bones are actually dragon bones!) This also sounds a lot like what happened to Teyvat when the Usurper came down, taking the Dragons' powers away in order for humans to live there.
Of course, I didn't want to talk about this, because it kinda implies that the Usurper is God and the Heavenly Principles - which many players view as the true evil. Being a devout Christian, I didn't want people to get the wrong impression of my faith. More than usual, anyway. I don't really know if Hoyoverse would use such a story as inspiration, however, but I couldn't help but think of it while doing the Fontaine archon quest.
Back to add a few more things that have to do with the game over-all, perhaps you or someone has mentioned it already but it's been on my mind for a while. God is said to have seven spirits and has been called many things such as: The God of Wisdom, the God of Eternity, the God of Justice, the God of Free will (or Freedom), the God of War, the God of Love, and the Rock. It's poetically sad that in Genshin it is said that people stopped loving the God of Love as that is what has happened in the real world. People have stopped believing, trusting, or loving God. Although I do still find it hard to believe that Hoyoverse is going that deep with their game. For Fontaine and Sumeru, I can see it, but the whole game being inspired by the Christian faith?
Finally, going to Fontaine again, there is a Teapot voice line that Neuvillette says about not fretting about possible poverty, food rations, and such for he would be waiting for 'me' in the outside of that world. This immediately reminded me of the Bible lessons where Jesus says to not worry about being poor, clothed, or fed for He will be there with me and we would see things through together. It really threw me off hearing Neuvillette say that. (Of course, it's paraphrased.)
Well the overarching "God mythos" in Genshin is heavily Gnostic. All of Teyvat's Gods, Archon or otherwise, are named after Ars Goetia demons. The game pulls from many myths, legends, religions, and historical events and figures to weave a new world and story out of ours.
Each region has a story heavily inspired by its own region's basis but can also pull from unassociated aspects, as well. For example, Enkanomiya is based on Atlantis, which has nothing to do with Japan despite Enka being related to Inazuma.
@@effortlessfury While I don't know all of Genshin's lore since I missed out on a lot of the limited-time events, I do know that the game is inspired by what you said. Growing up, I read a lot of folktales, fairy tales, and myths; with anime and manga teaching me about Japan's legends and beliefs. History was my favorite high school subject and I wanted to become an archeologist at one point, dreaming of exploring ancient ruins, discovering new ones, and puzzling out the past's mysteries. I recognize many of the game's influences, so I know it isn't just based on one faith or one culture. I'm surprised with myself, though, that I didn't see that Enkanomiya is based on Atlantis. I was obsessed with that mythical city in my youth, I wanted to find it and tried to figure out where it could have sunk. I guess since Enkanomiya is located in a region inspired on Japan I just didn't see it being Atlantis. (of course, there was an event there that I missed out on which I know had some lore attached to it, so . . .)
Yes there are many references to Gnostism! Some of them like Gnosis meaning knowledge were planned to be in this video. But Gnotism became it's own rabbit hole and I decided to stay focused on the biblical references instead. I might do a video on it in the future.
As for Enkanomiya going from reading Japanese names and phrases to suddenly Greek words and phrases was the weirdest whiplash in my poor nerd life. Like I honestly know more Greek words than Japanese. I just was not expecting Atlantis there lol
Fun fact many believe Atlantis to be the Egyptian retelling of the sudden destruction of the Minoans (the group before the Greeks). So Atlantis was the Island Crete and the destruction was caused by a mudslide from the volcano and a tsunami hitting the coast because of the volcano eruption. Of course people still debate this because of the measurements Plato provided but there is no way they were accurate writing the story down hundreds of years after it had happened.
So the Lucifier connection definitely goes deeper than just tempting Furina. I just didn't cover it because it wasn't Fontaine related and felt like old news? Basically Aether being cast out of Celestia in the opening cutscene, losing his wings, and then the theory that the game will end with us destroying the Heavenly Principles (trying to destroy god).
There are definitely battle lines that sound biblically based. For example the Abyss Heralds say things like "Grace be Upon you" and "Be Sanctified". and there's literally one called the Baptist.
I have never heard of this Genesis Gap. I have just always been under the assumption that one can not measure a day before the sun is even created or a planet to rotate around that sun. So the "days" were just a period of time where God created one item and then the next item. Those items did not have to each be created in under 24 hours because hours did not even exist.
As for the sky being a sea even the egyptian's believed that. They called the primordial sea Nun and out of that sea came Ra who then created everything else. The earth being a rock floating in that sea.
It's funny that you should mention dinosaurs actually being dragons, because i've always seen it in reverse. That the dragons (at least the European variety) were actually descriptions of dinosaur bones. No ancient culture could look at a t-rex skull and not tremble at the assumption that it might still walk the earth.
I do not believe Mihoyo is aiming for the usurper god to be the christian God Almighty. The mythos makes if very clear that humans and dragons and gods all existed on Teyvat before the arrival of the Usurper. The Christian God created all things. The Usurper simply arrived and changed things and created their own laws (the Heavenly Principles). Mihoyo has been smart about what they hint at and what they keep vague in order to not get in trouble with Chinese censors but also not alienate players of all backgrounds. I believe they will keep the true creation of the Teyvat universe vague and are intentionally making the Usurper not that person. So as to not imply killing any religion's creation deity. (Jesus is different because killing him is kind of the point)
-Sorry this got long
They're using them merely as reference imo. Which led me to think, does it happens so people could feel "relate" thus make the story as whole would showered with praises?
Depends on you
All of this to say: we were the bad guys?
well seeing as we're building up to the climax where we destroy the heavenly principles. Yeah i think we might be the bad guys. But I don't know how intentional it is on the travelers part. They truly wanted to help Furina and also stop the prophecy. They also were the push needed to make sure the prophecy happened.
Remember what Ayato said in his quest???
"I have a plan, *_but it needs a villain"_*
So traveler is not just Lucifer(which we have known for a long time), but Jesus too...while Furina is also Jesus XD
not the first time ...they even make the pink jesus in HI3.....
Someone else mentioned Honkai Impact. Unfortunately I worry that story is too far along for me to jump in now. But it's cool they've been making references like this the whole time!
also furina can walk on water like jesus
Did he do it fr tho lol
@@Mujisu5102I mean if youre an aethiest no?
As a devout Christian I learned a couple things in this video that I didn't even know about my own faith lmaoo. Great analysis!
But this game is blasphemy?
It was only a matter of time before Jesus is turned into an anime girl. And here we are.
I'm pretty sure there's a waifu mobile game out there that has already done it. . . shit i just described genshin. okay i'm pretty sure there was a Different waifu mobile game that did it before genshin. tho i think he might have still been a husbando in that one.
i dont play fate grand order but may i suggest fate grand order?
There was strawberry Jesus in Honkai Impact called Elysia, Herrscher of Human
They also have Bible reference in Honkai impact and Honkai star rail
for honkai I have not played it yet. For Star Rail i feel like it's too early in the story to confidently point to any bible references other than the surface level names and imagery.
@dougligaming3559 yea. Honkai Impact had their Jesus Christ in a form of Elysia, dying for humanity and resurrecting, etc.
Converse of how the World is God's bride, Elysia (daughter of God) is the unblemished Bride to Humanity. (The groom)
All these comments are so nice and open minded ☺️
Yes I am very surprised and very happy that everyone is being polite. Maybe because I asked nicely? lol
Do you have one for jeht world quest?
I do not have one breaking it all down yet. But a video on Deshret's kingdom is on the to do list! Dirge of Biliqis is a little bit harder to break down. All of the titles are linked to Babylon verses in the bible, but the story of Gurabad we learn from Liloupar is Persian (The empire after the Babylonians). I'd just have to research Persian myths along with the torah to make sure i pick out everything and don't assign things to the wrong source. But it's definitely doable
There's a bunch of christianity stuff in Mondstadt. Barbara even has a cross symbol on her.
Yes, they’re calling the “church of Barbatos” and this is the Archon name of Venti and they took it from a demon..
if I may add Furina’s title Regina of All Waters, Kindreds, Peoples and Laws is probably a reference to Whore of Babylon: “Then the angel said to me, 'The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages” (John 17:15 NIV)
Another commenter mentioned Furina being possibly linked to the whore of babylon along with neuvillette being the dragon. But I think those verses were from Revelations. It seems like you found another point to add to that theory!
Watching the video, I'm sure most of these are questionable and stretchy... but at the same time, it does explain why I feel so attached to Furina since i'm catholic. Still love these similarities that you've shown nevertheless.
➡️ There are other religions too in Genshin.
There are Islamic Harut and Marut angels teaching black magic in Sumeru. Those 2 cats in Sumeru.
Ah yes I actually wrote a few posts about the Egyptian gods referenced in Sumeru. But I figured it's been too long for folks to be interested in a video about that sort of thing. Inazuma also has heavy Shinto references and Liyue's Yaksha's are from Hinduism.
Ok I realised that the focalors being the lord and Furina being Jesus made sense, but I did NOT think that there would be THIS MANY references
Thats blasphemy, they took a demon name to represent Jesus??
8:20 nooooo!!!! not this AGAIN !!!
I think this video might make me read the bible. I just have to imagine all the characters in the bible as anime. I think I can do it.
The bible has some wild stories and battles in it. King David has so much family drama. It's just hard to give a highlights reel list and I haven't really looked around youtube to see if there's an OSP styled recap series anywhere. But I will say some parts are definitely more interesting than others. And there's nothing wrong with just jumping in at the interesting stories
mano, toda essa pesquisa e associação ficaram incríveis, bem que eu desconfiava que tinha uma pegada católica nessa Quest de Fontaine, especialmente com a parte da inundação e a arca, e até a parte da morte pra salvar a humanidade do "pecado original ".. vídeo incrível
Estou feliz que você gostou! Sim, houve muita pesquisa. Tive que encontrar muitos versos.
-desculpe, google tradutor
I thought i was the only one notice this similarities with biblical story. Traveler more like Judas sending Jesus to the cross. And the connection between Focalor and Furina is like Father and Jesus, Jesus is the representation of Father in the flesh. Just like Furina is the representation of Focalor's in the flesh.
And I think Neuvillete is the church as the witness.
Off topic but there's a real person reference in genshin. There's an ex lshawoman called Zaha Hadi
Great cultural references.
Not a game teaching me more about the bible than the bible itself
You would learn more about it if you actually read the Bible and not only read the Bible but also read the church fathers and listen to homilies.
@@lowrhyan567 i barely understand the fathers so do my sisters and my parents
The game only teaches more of the Bible if you have someone who knows the Bible like the originator of this video. I suggest the Gospel of John if you want to learn more. While it has symbolic language, it is easy to read.@@usleepy_ok
@@user-gx2hl2zd1hbut this game is satanic, right?
Your video is more informative.
1000th like pog
That day Jesus was reborn as an Anime French Grill
In Orthodox Christianity there is a big emphasis to become „like Christ“ or try to be very similar to him and the way he lived.
I guess Furina has gone many steps into that direction
As a Catholic, The Hypotasis is The 7th Archangel
im not a christian, but this is nice.
I'd argue that Furina is both the Son and the Holy Spirit, as Focalors explicitly states she has both her spirit and body in Furina.
Father: Neuvillete
Son: Furina
Holy Spirit: Focalor
the traveller represents Satan/Lucifer in the entire game, not just this archon quest
yeah I forgot the whole falling from heaven and losing their wings bit. It's not a surprise to others that they're connected to satan again. I just forgot this wasn't folks' first rodeo when pointing out the new satan connection I found.
@@dougligaming also they're reffered to as the light bringer several times plus in the Ars Goetia, Paimon is a demon known for being the closest demon to Lucifer, so the connections were there pretty much since 1.0
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@@dougligaming :]D
Heyyyy thank you so much for making this!!
Any other Christian genshin players here lol
The thought of people being uncomfortable talking about Christianity is hilarious to me, what is going on
The very first to experience death in the Bible is Abel and not Adam and Eve.
I think the point is that the first sin brought death into the human experience, but you are correct that Abel is the first human mentioned in the Bible to die.