Furina's Mental Health Deep Dive / Why Furina is the Most Important Character in Genshin Impact
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Furina suffered for so long in order to save Fontaine and this video goes into why her story is so important to mental health representation! SPOILERS FOR FONTAINE ARCHON QUEST ACT 5 !!
For 500 years, Furina pretended to be Focalor and didn't let anyone, not even Neuvillette or the Traveler, in to help ease her burden. How can her story be helpful for us in the real world? This video will answer this and more in our continued series talking about Genshin Impact's well... Impact on the underrepresented people in their audience!
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Correction about Queen Maria. She didn't say the quote "Let them eat cake" This quote was made by a random princess way before Maria even born. Why this became her quote? Because it's from a random princess with no origin... Historian was VERY extremely biases over Maria that even after her death rumours still created infinitely... Yeah, even after her death she still get slander...
It's one of those random case of similar to our society too. With random chat massage and the people "forge" that massage saying the victims lied. Maria suffer that like way ahead of us...
Also, Queen Maria didn't actually show off how she uses her wealth too. This is also a bias by historian... The accountant of that time even clearly shows 99% of the budget went to the military... France was crazy at war with Britain. The subject saw Maria eating in Luxury despite it being just 1% of the nation budget? They got jealous and joke about how she devours the nation's budget...
No she didn't... The military commander spent them all while she's did NOT know anything. She loves house riding, arts and music. She "hates all politics and war"
Due to her hates she's ignorance to war completely... This is her true down flaw because she basically give complete freedom to the military supreme military to spend money without any budget caps...
She didn't know she just accidentally give unlimited budget to her military commander just because she hates war...
To combat this budget crisis the treasury advisor spends ton of money an equalance to our world as "market shocks"
It would give him a lot of money if it's in "peaceful era"
Sucks for him cause the military commander is a warmonger... Peace never came so all his invested stocks basically lost too... He has the right idea because it WOULD be stupid to continue the war! But the commander was that stupid! He should have declared a truce in war!
He's ahead of his time... If he were in our era he would be as rich as Microsoft...
So did Maria did anything at all that ruined France? Surprisingly her only sin is she "did nothing" Because she hates war and politics... Even all the luxury claim was false...
Had to edit this in….the ppl of Fontaine may not be celebrating he because they’re dealing with the reality that they’re sea slugs. I feel like there’s going to be a quest line addressing that. Perhaps someone who wanted to be an oceanid and not human.
She was archon for 500 years, but she really didn’t do much in actual resolution of the plan. In the End, Neuvillette saved their lives. Focolar is a distinctly separate entity from Furina. The Archon are separate from their human host. There’s just a lot for the public’s to sort out….not to mention reconstruction
No one is who they appear in Fontaine
Spoiled brat Furina
Neuvillette was supposed to be this high and mighty, arrogant, classists noble
Wriosthly was supposed to be some hard nosed warden….
Fontaine has been taking a huge fucking dive into mental health and trauma, and I’m so fucking happy for it, it’s good to be heard and talked about.
True. Like the newest event quest.
I agree❤❤😭😭
YES. first we have lyney panicking over his siblings during the 4.1 archon quest, the frem event, and along with furina, there's also neuvillette's fear of losing the people he loves (carole and vautrin, his panic over focalors) I love fontaine and i have since I knew of its existence
fontaines main quest is what made me start playing. i watched my bf playing and he often spoke about references to esoteric old religions which also sounds pretty fun! im bitter about missing her banner though :•\
@khilafologi1866 oh yh that feels truck
I think the line that broke me was when she begged and screamed straight from her chest "PLEASE! I AM YOUR REAL ARCHON" amber istg you put your whole SOUL into that
It hit even harder once we found out that she wasn’t pleading out of ego but to save her people. To fail to convince them meant all of their deaths.
That emotion in her voice then resonated so hard. It was tugging on my heartstrings. Poor girl 😢
bro amber did SO WELL for her voice omfg
I was literally going emotional during the trial. It hurts to watch Furina break each minute.
i love it when her voice cracked, makes me feel like she's real
Furina is such a relatable character to such a big part of the fanbase. From what I’ve seen, a majority of the fanbase is still in Highschool/college and are constantly struggling through their days with tasks that don’t seem related as part of the “bigger picture”. Furina experiences something similar through her 500 year cycle. Love her to death for being so relatable
as a second year uni student I get her. sometimes I wonder when my assignments would come to an end. Or there are nights I wonder if I'm even trying hard enough.
@@Blossom_6655exactly! I’m so glad hoyo wrote a character that many people find relatable and may find comfort in
@@Blossom_6655 It's the same on the other side. I'm an autistic PhD student and every time I teach a class, I have to put on this facade of a somewhat respectable university prof. And there is always more homework to check, more messeges from students to respond to... And you never feel like you're trying hard enough
@@Ren7397 Ah, I wish we could all give each other a hug. And some treats and talk about our stuff. I want to get tested for adhd but don't know how.
@@Ren7397 I'm not a PhD student but I started teaching after a master's degree (I specialise in English as a foreign language and theoretical linguistics to an extent, nit teaching - at first). I also suspect I might be neurodivergent, because so many experiences throughout my life seem to fit much more into the experiences of other people with autism, ADHD or both. And I cannot agree more. I used to pull off 40 academic hours of classes a week at two workplaces but had to quit both jobs because now I can barely do 10 - with all the materials ready. And I'm mentally drained. And I relate to the episode of Furina crying in public from a breakdown so much, because I remember all the times I put on a happy face, actually managed to fool myself and make myself think I was happy only to break down on public transport on the way home. And then doing all the homework checking, messages, losing nights of sleep and weekends to all of that... I just relate to Furina so much that it overwhelms me. And I finally felt understood somehow when I did the Archon quest and her story quest. This experience of "what if I'm not doing enough, I'm already doing so much I'm unable to walk 10 minutes without a break, but I should probably be doing more...or should I?". Furina actually made it like a champ
"Archon" or not, Furina was able to keep Fontaine on tracks for 500 years without using any power. She'd always put her nation above herself, despite any desires to give up.
Even if it was a role that she was given to act as, she fulfilled her position perfectly.
I feel bad bc of the way it feels like she was somehow "forgotten" by others after the archon quest. At least Neuvilette will keep looking after her, she really needs to rest after everything.
tbf she had neuvillette carry the heavier lifting in terms of operations. nevertheless she underwent mental torture for 500yrs. no one can take that away from her.
(SPOILER)
At the very least, not everyone forgot about her. Iirc, Chlorinde is the first person who visited her in her home, helped her unpack all her things, and even invited her to a tea party. (In her profile iirc)
Im looking forward to her story 2 or events related to fontaine!
She should still be honored as an archon.
What she did isn't regular-level sacrifice, it's Archon-level sacrifice.
Even Raiden Ei agrees with this; as she said, "her willpower has indeed reached the level of a god".
She was not forgotten after the archon quest in fact the npc praise her still since they know what she has done for fontaine
In a way, Furina revealed to many, how people, who don't understand or have never experienced mental issues, see people with them. Everyone were quick to judge Furina for how terrible and obnoxious she was without knowing how she truly was underneath and that's how people who don't understand mental illnesses feel towards such people on a daily basis, they see them as useless, weak, pathetic, obnoxious, attention-seeking, weird or dumb. Because they can't understand they judge based on how they understand themselves and what they know about themselves is that they wouldn't do what those weird people do, it's all they can know and even explaining it or showing it doesn't really reach that understanding, much like explaining a cube in 4D space doesn't exactly allow a person to understand and see what 4D space looks like.
I was like that initially too. I saw her as a brat, just meh as a character. But after all was revealed, I immediately realized she’s like me, and that like a normal person I fell for her facade. It was so well done that it was sad. I understand fully the situation and I relate to her a lot. What’s really sad and aggravating though is seeing how many posts are still made after the end of the archon quest that people still don’t understand the extent of her suffering and the trauma she went through. They still call her an obnoxious brat and a horrible excuse for an archon. Like bruh, obviously she was never the archon fully to begin with and now it’s Neuvillete who holds all the cards thanks to Focalors sacrificing herself. It’s one of the best quests in the game so far and the fact that people still mischaracterize the crap out of it makes me mad 😭😡
Edit: Upon rereading my comment, I realize it may be insensitive and I have not been in such a situation myself so I may npt even be qualified to say such things. I will still leave my original comment just in case anyone can provide any insight into what it’s like to be in that situation
While it is true that people shouldn’t judge based on what they see on the surface… alll you do see is the surface. Furina especially didn’t give any clue as to what was going on, and for a long time too. People’s tolerance has a limit too and that’s something you should keep in mind. Even Neuvillette, a person shown to be level headed throughout the entire quest got fed up with it at some point.
This also highlights an important role the person facing the mental issue has. While in furina’s case, she literally couldn’t talk because of focalors plan, in real life, there will always be an opportunity to open up to someone about it. Nobody can read your mind and they’ll only know as much as you tell them, so keeping everything to yourself expecting someone to magically appear to relieve you of all your pent up emotions will not end well.
And another thing, even after the quest, while I love furina now and can sympathize with what she had to go through for all those years, it doesn’t mean I suddenly like her bratty personality now. It’s important that we don’t encourage toxic behaviors that are associated with bad mental health. We can’t blame people for some attitudes they display as a result of their mental health, but that doesn’t mean we should act like their actions were good.
In all, I’m not trying to attack the victim, don’t get me wrong, but I just find it weird seeing people saying those who found furina annoying at first were mean or something (not targeted at the original commenter)
@@aperson6562we dont expect people to relieve us of our burdens. Not anymore.
I, and many others, have become our burdens.
An attempt to rip the mask of our faces will leave us with the misearable truth;
“I have become nothing more than my mask. The skin and features that were supposed to be my face have melded into the cheap and ugly plastic i have worn all this time.”
Furina is very strong. Im already dead haha
Very mentally ill here and I indeed never saw her as that, instead projecting on her that she was traumatized and was full of coping mechanisms. It feels hard to live in society where the people who are "functional" and "normal" often can't fathom just how vastly different it can feel inside someone else's brain. I just actually wouldn't judge any real person the way people memed on Furina
maybe it's because i played in cn, but furina to me has always been one of those burnt out college kids who's trying to keep it together but failing to. i never really got the brat jokes
Another fun fact is that Marie Antoinette never actually said "let them eat cake". That was attributed to "an Austrian princess" and people just decided it was her, but in Reality it was recorded a few years before she was born
I was looking for this comment:))
Yeah but the world likes to headcannon things
Yeah! She definitely has a much worse reputation than she deserved. And France's finances were already poor, she wasn't the only noble/cause of revolution.
Thank you for that ! Really the misinformation on this subject is too much-
it's really a typical arab telephone story
@@Chrysalid. ironically marie was one of the few nobles to do some charity work. Which definitely wasn't enough, but at least showed that she cared more than the other french nobles at the time.
My head cannon is furina's demo is her true personality when her mental is not a mess from being fried for 500 years and not have to pretend to be a pompous jerk
She's energetic, loud, loving the attention but also cheerful, charismatic, funny and extroverted and also friendly and genuine with her art... she's a good person deep down there, even kinder than most genshin character I will argue, as we see her in her story quest when she helped a struggling theater troupe, for litterally nothing. No mora, no fame, she didn't even want her name to be credited or mentioned at all. Yet she forced herself to step out of her own comfort zone and to act again for their sake, not her's
I suspect her story 2 will give her some recompense that allows her to have some more agency in her own life.
Roses and Muskets has all but proven your assertion to be true. And it's adorable how shy she can get when accepting adoration now.
That's director furina for you. Such a lovable and selfless character. She's slowly regaining confidence in herself with each update, and hell* now with 4.7 she is now capable of defending herself, as when confronted with a stone golem devorator, even though she was clearly scared, she stood there and summoned her "guards" to fight back, instead of running away like she always did before when against a threat. She probably has a lot of combat potential that she hasn't yet realized, part of it coming from her one of a kind dragon vision.
We must be proud for her.
Furina has had to put on a facade for 500 years. And that would be the equivalent of masking. She has had to shoulder a burden and could go to no one for help. when we have mental health problems we realize something is wrong but no one to turn too. She was the main lead in Foucalor's play to deceive Celestia. She could only cry on her shoulder.
Bruh, Freminet’s Thelksie’s fantastical adventure is another storyline delving deep into mental health. It’s so wonderfully done!
The way that event said and did so much in three short acts,... I loved it
Well now I gotta play it! Lol
No because I literally just finished that event and watched this video. (Tell me why I was crying when the mom hugged her son)
@@2triedforthis830 for me it is because my mom passed away and it felt like the words were said by my mom.. gee, why am I crying now just writing about it haha. My love for my mother, is bigger than the distance between us..
My y escapist self was like "okay, that's whenm my escapism in Genshin actually ends". But yeah, I liked how it was about mental health and also, if you finished it, there was an episode when the Traveler put on Freminet's helmet....oh boy did I cry
Honestly I believe that furina going onto the stage again wasn’t a boundary being ignored. But a fear being conquered, I believe that it was another step in her founding out who she really is, it helped her realize that she can be herself while acting on the stage as well
THANK YOU, someone sees that!
Indeed. I see it as her trying to shed Focalor, but mistakenly trying to cut out the bits of Furina that overlapped as well.
True but paimon and traveler still are jerks tho.
@@EdgeLie traveler saw what she went through, they should have already put together that she would be uncomfortable with it, and told paining to shut up when she was insensitive/ let her in on furinas baggage
her reinventing acting for herself was actually quite a hopeful message. like if you are traumatized by something doesn't mean you will or should just avoid it for the rest of your life. healing ang changing context of experience and going through it again without getting triggers is actually very freeing. i think biggest problem with sq is that we assume it takes place right after aq, then it works better as a follow-up quest somewhere in the future, when she actually got some room to breathe.
Also paimon being paimon and the english dub getting terrible voice direction.
I personally saw her story quest as overcoming her trauma. She managed to play the part of an Archon for 500 years. She was able to make a persona for herself on the spot in front of an audience during her first speech. She is truly talented when it comes to acting, which is the reason she was even able to make it so long, even through her suffering. to me, she got the vision for appearing in a performance despite her fears of what they would think of her, and rediscovering her passion and talent when it comes to different roles.
now it is a bit of a rushed way to overcome such a huge event in her life, I would prefer it this arc was over two story quests (if she even gets a second story quest like all other archons, Neuvilette is more likely to get it), but i guess that's just because of constraints like Hoyo needing her to get her vision in story as soon as she's playable.
Yeah, I kinda understand it. But the rushing seriously undercuts whatever they were talking about mental illness. Especially the fact that she was revealed to be part of the play, especially when we have no idea whether the people of fountain understand what she went through. Also the absence of any visible apology from anyone, like the traveler literally exposed her to one of her major traumas. Needed or not that deserves an apology, they really fumbled her in that aspect. Like yeah it's cool to see someone dealing with this type of stuff why is the world that surrounds her garbo tho?
Just to reference the video "Its taking away her agency when the whole problem was the fact that she had no agency"
@@lolhellogod6892they also still haven’t talked about how corrupt Fontaine is lol. Furina’s story and the oceanid twist doesn’t change how shitty the system is. Meropide especially is horrible concentration camp propaganda.
@@wilburforce8046Wait can you explain what exactly you mean with „concentration camp propaganda“? Like those from the second ww?
@@thegreenflowers3807 Fontaines laws are ass and send innocent people into exile essentially. Once they are down there they are away from the law and are at the mercy of those who control it. Good thing wrio is nice right. Just like the commercials Germany used to advertise their camps lol.
But anyway the actually fucked part is the idea that people who spend time there don’t want to leave afterwards. That the time they spent there was actually meaningful and fun, and that carrying out a full sentence is just whatever for the traveler. Why we even stay there after our mission is complete is utterly stupid. Why a kid can even be there PERIOD like in caterpillar’s quest is nonsensical at best. Basically Hoyo’s writing a CC like environment to be just kind of…neat and healthy. A place people want to stay in cause “it’s not that bad”.
China btw has real CC’s. The FoM could have very well been a generic evil prison and it has all the telltale signs of one, but with this weird hoyo seal of approval on it constantly screaming “it’s not that bad bro”.
Even before act 5 I knew that there was something more to Furina, that the egotistical and confident attitude she had was a mask she was putting on for her people. I obviously didn’t the full extent of why she was acting this way until later, but even then it bothered me that so many people seemed to take her at face value and write her off as annoying. This archon quest was amazing and I’m glad so many people now appreciate Furina and her character
I was like "she's annoying and her behaviour is annoying, but she's actually interesting and I wonder why", instead of just writing her off. Maybe the first time I saw her I did, but then I was like "wait a minute" all the time haha. And in act 5 I realised that she was the most relatable character for me in the entirety of the game. Pulled her and even fished for the pipe sword. She's in my top 3 archons now, that's for sure. I was pretty neutral at first but as soon as I did the quests and everything I almost fell in love 😂😂😂
It was painfully obvious she was just acting and I knew that once the new archon quest dropped people would do a 180° and be like, "omg she's actually amazing!"
It was predictable honestly.
same, actually right before the trial i made a theory that the archon part of her was trapped somehow, so i wasnt completely off course 🤣
I saw some people not understand why what she went through was a painful experience, and I realized that some people either don't know what it's like to have to wear a mask or they have one so deep on themselves, they're desensitized to it.
The archons are all suffering characters, alot has happened well before the events in the game and it shows in each of their characters in their own ways. Furina though, even if she's a clone in Focalor's image, her preserved humanity, the way it shows is real in a genuine, horrifying way. No choice but to grit and bear. No way to cope, with no one to turn to.
But then after, her rekindled spirit as she goes back to a "normal". She can live her own life, have a passion.
Was a wonderful performance. Tragedy can be beautiful.
I wouldn't say shes the most important lore wise but shes differently the best written character till now.
And we still have natlan and snezhnaya imagine how much more “impact” they would do (see what I did there)
I don’t think they mean most important character lore wise, I think they’re saying most important character mental health representation wise
@@Autchoiiy lol
@@amochikaay true.
Actually she might be among the most important lore-wise. Focalors (and the Hydro archon before her) accomplished something huge with Furina's help. She rebelled against Celestia completely. Not only did she create her own people without their approval, but she tricked Celestia and saved them from being reverted back to their original form. AND even more than that, she completely destroyed the throne of the Hydro Archon forever and gave their stolen power back to the Hydro dragon. This is HUGE. There has to be some sort of repercussion for it when they realize what she's done. It also shows something very important, Celestia can be tricked and defeated. Keep in mind how they absolutely destroyed Khaenri'ah, an extremely advanced powerful nation from what we can tell. She did the forbidden and then won against them at their own game. Even though most of the other Archons have shrugged off their connection with Celestia, this is the first time we've seen someone crack through their system. She might actually be one of the most important characters in the game.
I'd like to say something about her story quest, it's unfortunate the weird translation/voice direction hurt the story about her.
In her demo Furina is presented as Fontaine's most beloved actress, her updated drip marketing paints her as this great figure people continued adoring long after her passing, a one of a kind talent. And she loves the opera, she lives for it even.
Her story is one about staying away from an activity she loves, it's her learning that yes, being the spotlight hurts her but there's a way for her to still partake in it not as the actor, but as the director.
At the end of the archon quest she leaves the opera believing her greatest play had failed, thinking that her people hate her, that people like Neuvillette look down on her for her faults. But her story quest through the little oceanid play teaches her that her love is corresponded, like traveler said there are people that are willing to share her burden and they don't care if doing so would doom their nation.
She takes the spotlight in the end not because of duty but because of love, she loves her people and wants their stories to be known if she sometimes has to be the actor then so be it, that story is being completed no matter what.
And she still struggles, she doesn't feel worthy of recognition but she's still given it. Both in the form of the troupe thanking her for her directing and Neuvillette giving her a vision as a reward for her hard work, to remind her that her 500 years of suffering are being acknowledged, that her people are grateful for all she did.
Opera is something that makes her happy, that's the one fact about Furina all fontanians and traveler know well, with the story quest she learns whether she was to return to the opera as an actor or director she'll still be loved
I am glad someone though about it in a similar way i did! Most opinions i saw was "She HAD to do it, It was her Duty to go on stage again!"
I hope that in her second SQ she gets a bigger apartment or tells us about more dishes she's been learning to cook 🥺
@@KaagKagamine5 same, she deserves it all
@@KaagKagamine5 she can now cook spaghetti
one correction, nuevellette didnt give her a vision, archons dont give visions, dunno how this is still a misconception, it was debunked in the main quest literally 2 years ago in inazuma
Just think of how the hilichurls felt. Furina was a human burdened with nigh immortality. Her torment lasting for 500 years.
This gives us a glimpse of hilichurls' torment.
weren't the hilichurls the lucky ones who had their minds sealed away when their bodies were cursed? it's the pure-blooded khaenriahns that are most similar to her
@@PatriciaKerriI wonder if Dain will talk about Furina the next time we see him. If he does, I wonder if he'll respect her for playing the acting part
21:06 I can understand the confusion and the easy to misunderstand part with her storyquest here, but I think I could give a different perspective on what Hoyo was trying to tell with this arc of Furina's 'rebirth'.
I'm an artist, I love to create, I love to imagine and write stories and consume stories etc. But when it becomes taxing it can feel like the most awful thing in the world and I would wish to never have to draw again; I'd would go into long periods of either burnout, procrastination or hiatus from all of it. It's during those times I feel closest to my lowest points, because I still love to make art, I just hate it during those stressful times when it's for someone else, when it's on a deadline or just not 100% how I want it to be.
It's as Neuvillette says in her story quest and Furina in her Vision voiceline. She always loved to act and perform and be on stage, she just hated it when she was not performing as herself. The play she put on for 500 years was a front both on and off stage, she had to act non-stop towards a deadline that seemed to stretch forever with no end in sight. The one time she gets her break from all of it, she goes into hiatus mode; pulling herself away from it because internally, she might've feared it would drag her back to a role mirroring what she lived through already, had she went to start a show again.
This kind of experience also happens with real performers who suffer through abusive environments related to their craft, like Opera; (shout out to MarcoMeatball he describes this better than I could.) people whose passions are their job can still fall into bad experiences that would make them believe they want nothing to do with what they once loved. It's not until that spark is reignited by something that somebody can realize and relax, that they can still do what they love and consume what they love so long as they're careful not to allow themselves to be dragged back into toxic environments/experiences again.
This is another reason I resonate with her story quest, despite knowing where the plot was going ahead of time and the few insensitive moments in it.
Had I watched a lil longer I would've noticed you p much said my points already lmao sorry, ik it seems like a very "but still, why tho?" moment I relate heavily to it as a creative who makes being creative my whole being for all my life since it's what im good at and rolled with since forever so- It seemed very fitting to latch onto it considering the circumstances.
once again i find you in youtube comments lmao XD
@@artsysparks Gasp a wild encounter!
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@@sundalosketch4769lmaoooooo
i loved her girlfailureness so much when i first started the archon quest. but her story is genuinely so sad and so unimaginably painful, and lonely and i found myself drawing parallels to mental health isssues too. thank you so much for the vid e!
Another thing I always take issue with is when people in the fandom call Furina an archon or the hydro archon because she isn't and she never was, that was just a role she was forced to play for 500 years. So to me, when people call her an archon it's kind of insensitive because it was something she never wanted. All she ever wanted was to just be a normal human being and yet she couldn't. I think that's part of what makes her character so tragic. At least now she can finally be just a normal person and live her life freely the way she wants to:) So calling her an archon feels kinda wrong to me.
Also, it’s like they almost missed the point of the end of the archon quest, Furina’s divinity literally makes the point that archons shouldn’t BE archons bc their powers were stolen from the og dragons. She expresses ‘archon’ is only a title and sets up a 500 year elaborate plan to rebel against Celestia and destroy the position of ‘hydro archon’. Genshin in general seems to be building up to an “overthrowing celestia” thing and each archon so far has pretty much been fine with their gnosis’s being taken away.
I have never before resonated with a video game character as much as with Furina.
I struggle with gender dysphoria and unfortunately I have not been able to transition in the timeframe I'd like.
This resulted in me having to slog through university and putting up a mask for years.
It's no surprise that this resulted in chronic depression and anxiety.
I have literally experienced the scene where Furina had to smile as she cried firsthand.
She is an incredible character and the writers have done an extreme service to people who struggle everywhere in silence by showing out in the open how it feels.
Trans guy here, that's exactly my experience with Furina too. She resonated so much with me, I loved her since 4.0 till her story quest. My favorite character of all time
a little headcanon of mine: Furina is diabetic. In her demo as she is sitting on the scene she says "Blood sugar replanished" which meant she had lower blood sureg some time ago most likely duo to rehearses. I just think its really adorable small deatail
I interpreted that in Furina's quest she gets her vision as a final goodbye to acting as someone else, and is ready to move on to what she likes, the quest doesn't specifically says she will keep acting and such, it leaves it open, who knows maybe next time she will have her own restaurant as a chef :)
She literally expresses that she wants to return to to the stage at the end of the quest.
@@massivenut3282 As a form of self-expression rather than suppression
Turns out she did stay in the perfoming arts, but now as a director instead of an actress
The way i feel about how she got her vision is i think it was implied that she did love the stage but was scared of how the public would act if she went back alongside how she felt about acting as the archonfor those 500 yrs. Her one love during those centuries was those plays and musicals , her hobby voiceline is about musicals. so she deserves to have that passion rekindled. Also i took her quest and demo as her transitioning from an actor on the stage to the director of her own play that is her life ( and maybe actual plays too).
Furina is such a relatable character, i feel so much like her but not in the masking my sadness and having this big happy personality while masking, for me its the opposite, masking this big energetic personality and covering it up with a quiet one, i love her so much ajhgdhjkjhbhedfggdk
As a Navy Vet who has been struggling with PTSD on top of my autism, I hated Furina at first. But as she started to stutter and struggle I started to see something in her. After 4.2 she become my favorite character in the game, if not currently my favorite character in all media. There was something about her story that even now makes it hard not to tear up every single time I think about it.
After listening to your metaphor analysis, it really struck me. Even if her character is not indented to directly represent a certain mental illness, like you said, it no doubt does represent certain aspects of mental illness well. I can't watch her sitting on her bed at the end of the day without shaking. But then on the flip side, seeing her smug, happy smile during her burst animation gives me a kind of joy I can not describe. I want her to be truly, genuinely, happy. Like I want to be.
The only thing I will say about her vision...
I was a photographer in the Navy. I was not one before I joined, but I grew to love photography. Unfortunately the stress of doing it under pressure and documentation of certain events ruined it for me. It was three years out that I first picked up a camera again, the idea of taking photos again terrified me. It wasn't until my company needed a photographer for an event and provided the camera that I stepped up and am now regularly looking for a good deal on a DSLR.
She could very well love performing and only be shielding herself from it due to negative associations. Do I think her being pushed into is good? No. But they have a narrative they need to move along, and I think this was their way of showing that is was in fact a passion she had, or grew to have, as Furina the human. Something like that, an self-defining activity that was thrust upon you, can feel like a cage, but it can also become a home. Both abusive and welcoming. Its... complicated. But I will tell you, when I took those pictures of the event for my company, I immediately told everyone in my family and any friend that would listen. I felt like I had earned a vision.
I could go on forever about this, but at that point I should probably just make my own video. But great video, first of yours I have seen but I am already digging through your channel for more.
furina and nahida are definitely two of the most important characters and gods. furina literally sacrificed her life to save everyone, and nahida took care of her citizens despite being treated so terribly. she even took care of the children while being kept in a prison. I love them both sm
For the curious:
No, Furina did not return to acting at the end, in the character's descriptions it says that she did chose to continue working at the opera, but behind the scenes
and her vision is not like the others (a response to ambition) her vision is a gift for everything she had to endure
In fact the best written character
The introduction to Furina left me cold & determined not to waste my wishes, I didn't care how strong she was as her character grated so much, but after the 4.2 Archon quest...
Basically that was me 12 years ago, after masking for 30 years (totally unaware that I was) it was torn away & I crashed & have been rebuilding ever since. Needless to say, guess who has a level 90 Furina roaming my little slice of Teyvat.
A thing that hit hard for me was when the knave told paimon and traveler to eat cake because they've worked so hard while leaving furina out of it, and tbh If I would've been furina i would've cried on the spot, I've been in that situation before and it's not fun. Some people forget that while others have an easier time doing things, while others don't. While people were making fun of furina after getting roasted by the knave she just sat there the same way I did when I get insulted or yelled at for being lazy or having a lack of response in certain situations.
Exactly, and I'm desperate for what the Knave now thinks of Furina after it all went down
On topic of boundary setting..
I struggle with mental illness and I see it both ways. There are some boundaries which got crossed , but this was better for me. Some of my boundaries in the past were extremely stupid. (For example "When I was at a certain street in my neighbor town, I learned my mom got cancer. I will never visit that street again".) On other times, my boundaries got crossed which really just did harm to me.
In the story, I think it was rather harmless. Furina was not forced or bullied into stuff she refused to do. But people negotiated with her. And I think, yes. there is a freedom to say no. But there is always also a freedom to ask.
This is why I say Furina deserves all the hugs and kisses in the world because she's the embodiment of "damned if I do damned if I don't" like just the struggle of wanting to talk to someone but knowing if it'd be okay. I have severe depression so seeing Furina go through that loneliness. To feel so alone that you could scream but no one would hear you and not being able to talk to anyone. It sucks and it can be really damaging and learning to undo that much mental agony would take it's toll on anyone.
Just a little thing about Marie-Antoinette, speaking as a french who heavily reseached French Revolution in my studies, she wasn't sentenced to death for being out of touch but for pleading to her family (the rulers of the Austrian Empire) to send troups to France in order to crush the revolution (her letters were found and intercepted), although the royal couple had sworn to be on the side of the nation against external foes. So she was tried and sentenced to death for betrayal, and nothing else.
That said, it's true that she was the victim of a huge smear campaign, both from revolutionaries, who criticized her opulent lifestyle and her links to foreign dynasties, and from conservative royalists, who blamed her influence for the faults and bad decisions of her husband.
As often in history, things are not black or white. Marie-Antoinette certainly was not the malicious and luxurious queen that was depicted for a long time, nor was she just a sweet and naive girl as she is nowadays presented. But she was a woman, in a relative position of power, in a troubled time who tried to make the best decisions for herself. Unfortunatly for her, these decisions cost her dearly.
I think furina getting her vision while acting is a good decision, tbh.
The troupe's story of losing their director to the serial disappearances case touched furina's heart so much that she was willing to overstep her boundary she had previously set. On top of that, the story of the little oceanid musical parallels furina's own story (sacrificing herself for the good of the people) and that likely resonated with her which further impacted her decision. After she got her vision, she made the decision that although she didn't want to be on stage anymore, she would still want to help direct performances, similar to what Focalors did, but this time it would be to help others tell their stories and pursue their dreams. I think furina playing the lead role in the little oceanid was her "reclaiming" acting from her trauma, as her vision character story says her heart was "filled once again" by the performance. Since visions are "gifts" to people with powerful ambitions or desires, I think this moment fulfilled that criteria very well, and it symbolizes Furina overcoming that aspect of her past and pursuing her passion despite all the pain associated with it that she went through in the past.
As someone who suffers greatly with depression, Furina as a character not only feels genuine, but the people behind the story also really did their research when it comes to trauma and the topic of mental illness; especially in her character story where we see Furina's character a bit more intimately. Amber Lee Connors, her voice actress, does such a good job portraying the pain and anguish that I'd imagine 500 years can really do to a person.
It's heartbreaking to watch all of this unfold, even more so when you can personally relate to the struggle in some capacity. And I think that deserves so much credit to the writing team behind Genshin. 💜
Tbh, that might be really headcannon-ic? ig? however, I tried to grasp why the scene with Furina receiving a vision doesn’t hurt me as much, as a description of her finally doing something different, only to been put back and applauded, despite how truly painful it was, should’ve.
And that answer for me is interpreting the scene more emotionally, than metaphorically. I want to think that the vision, she was given is not “okay, continue that” but more of a “thank you. It was only you who was able to do it”. Having in mind that it is Neuvilette who gives her the vision, and in the story quest he seems understanding of her situation, I hope it was what they were going for. She deserved this vision EVEN before all of this, but her efforts were left unnoticed. So this one thematical return to the theatre is sending her back to the times she did it every day. She did act, and she acted good. She doesn’t have to anymore - she proved everything
An aspect of Furina receiving her vision some people overlook is the fact that Neuvillete is the one giving out Hydro Visions now. And him giving her a vision is far more meaningful than if it weren't. Because him giving her a vision is an acknowledgement of her indomitable spirit, admiration of her character, and respect that she is willing to pick up the pieces and move on. It's not out of any kind of pity. He's known her for 500 years.
Which is something I've noticed that the Fandom is missing the point on. Infantalizing Furina, and treating her like she's just a victim to be coddled, is a disgrace to her and her efforts. That's why I appreciate her story Quest. Because it doesn't do that.
Acting may be related to Furina's trauma, but it's also the thing that she can most take pride in, the quality she likes most about herself. If it wasn't for her acting, Fontaine wouldn't be standing. So seeing her with people that likewise value that quality, and giving her a chance to act on her own terms, as opposed to her being forced to, is a great way to showcase her emotional growth. Besides which, the Traveler and Paimon really aren't that pushy when it comes to getting her to join the troupe. They ask her twice to join, and then they ask her if she knows anyone else. Once she puts her foot down, they give up and drop the issue completely. Afterwards, Furina, completely of her own volition, follows them back.
(And I dont understand the beef with Paimon. As is usual, most of Paimon's supposed maliciousness is just her having not much of a filter or messy attempts to lighten the mood)
Besides which, many people in Fontaine still have a lot of respect for her as a celebrity (which really isn't any different from how they've always seen her)
Aren’t visions given out directly by Celestia? In the Inazuma archon quest, Raiden had no idea that electro visions stopped appearing in Teyvat, which implies that she was not the one giving them out.
@cobblegen1204 Neuvilette's Vision story confirms that visions do come from Archons, it's just not something they're consciously doing. It's more of an automatic process
@@MiyaoMeow588 If it's not being done consciously, can you really meaningfully say that they're giving them out? It still sounds like a principle beyond the control of archons even if it is connected to them. Since the office of archon is transferrable and possible to destroy, as we see in the archon quest, it seems reasonable to conclude that celestial influence is more important than the individual will of the archons.
I love Furina, she is such a real character. She is, in my opinion, the best character they have ever written and as a result she is the only 5 star I have ever pulled constellations for and gotten her signature weapon. Also I don't think I ever wanted to knock Pimon out of the sky more in my entire time playing Genshin Impact than during Furina's story quest.
Paimon was utterly detestable
furina is such a good example of masking your mental health and how far it can go
I felt the same about her story quest. The way they kept not taking her boundary seriously didn't sit well with me. I think it would have been better if they'd simply respected it from the start and then Furina came to her own realization about her love for theater in her own time. I get that's what they were trying to convey, that realization that she did genuinely enjoy theater was significant because it meant she was starting to find her true interests. But I also agree, I wish it hadn't been tied in with something that had been traumatic for her. I feel like that realization should probably have taken years of healing first rather than a few weeks or however long the story quest was meant to last. Baking definitely would have been a better alternative, and still fitting for her character.
Personally I saw it as something different. Sometimes when you reach those depressive lows, it can feel like your trapped, that your stuck in your limited mindspace. You know you cant stay like this but you cant bring yourself to take any steps towards getting out of it. In times like these, sometimes the best thing is to have a support figure to drag you kicking and screaming where you yourself are too scared to go. Furina loves acting and theater, but in her current headspace she would have never rediscovered that passion without some situation forcing her hand. Respecting boundaries are important, but if you leave them to handle things alone, nothing will change.
nahida is a fantastic comparison, they both went through extremely similar things to a extent as they both was isolated to a extent in one way or another. BUT nahida had escapism in dreams ect i love how it seems that they’re almost like parallels to eachother and different coping mechanisms. They both had a element of imposters syndrome but nahida felt sad about that while furina took over and made her insecurities and used it to fuel her act.
As someone who has suffered with severe depression, I relate to Furina on such a deep level. Her backstory is genuinely heartbreaking, and seeing not only in game characters, but also some members of the fandom STILL ridicule her makes me upset
I actually like the decision of the writers to have Furina act again at the end. You can tell that it’s actually her passion. But the magic of a passion fades when you have to do it for work. Seeing her rediscover her passion and be rewarded for it felt nice.
I also don’t see Furina’s condition as a sort of trauma. Everyone has to deal with the hand they’re dealt with in life. This means going out of your comfort zone and tackling life even if that means doing something that your mental illness doesn’t make easy. What always comes to my mind is that Furina now has a limited life span. She spent 500 years working and now has less than 100 to enjoy her retirement. Because of how long she’s already lived, it’ll pass by in the blink of an eye. I think Paimon pushing her forwards towards the end there was a message to her that she should enjoy the time she has left with her head held high, doing things she loves with the people she loves, rather than locking herself away eating macaroni all day.
About her story quest, I think it's nice but personally I would prefer if she found a purpose and got her vision in the position of directing plays instead.
Think about it, she put such a harsh boundary on herself because of the trauma, but by doing so she also gave up something that she seem to actually enjoy - acting in musicals that have a beggining and an end to it. Acting (besides the role in the Focalors plan) is something she chose to do with the little agency she had at the time. She wasn't required to do that to be an archon.
Her coming back as director of a troupe, not being the center of attention but instead being the main person behind the scenes directing the actors and story, would be a perfect way for her to find purpose again in what she loved to do without actually breaking the boundary she set for herself. And wouldn't feel like her agency got taken away, but rather she found a purpose for herself
I always enjoyed Furina. Characters like her, Yoimiya, and Hu Tao always strike me as characters that have a deeper and more complex side to them, where it's implied for the two latter I'm glad they really went in with Furina, it shoot her up to one of my favourite characters.
I'm so glad others are noticing the insensitivity and f*ck up in her story quest writing on breaking her boundaries she so clearly set multiple times.
As an autistic person esspecialy late diagnosed (at the age of 16 not soo late but still somewhat) Furina is very relatble to me in the masking aspect esspecialy. It hurts like hell realising that made me also realise I have no idea of where my lie ends where am I my true self? I can't tell well sorry I don't have a resolution for that when I do I might tell you all but for now Im still on that stage still puting up an act I might be able to escape one day I hope I can but its fine for now Im hurting less now then before and thats good enaugh for me for now....well that was a lot more poethic than I wanted it to be well what ever thanks for reading it sorry for rambeling a bit bye.
I believe her vision was more granted over her wish to listen and aid people in telling their stories.
("But from now on, I want to spend my time learning real stories about real people, and how they touch the lives of others around them. | I want to watch them blossom and wither, see them refined on the page, retold on the stage, and remembered long into the future") [Source: Her story quest, near the absolute end]
So her vision seems to be granted by that desire, not by stepping on the stage into acting again. The lead couldnt perform, their tale was about to go unheard, and she couldn’t let that happen.
It is the perfect ambition, the perfect wish. I'm so glad to share this desire with her.
The way she just sits down and accepts her fate is such a sad scene. She suffered so much that she just doesn't care anymore
Tbh I wasn't focusing on the entire vid I was memorised by that body pillow❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love Furina's character so much, she's my new favorite character in the game and probably will always be
I love Furina from the final feast trailer and love her even more throughout the story. Her snarky, boastful attitude is so loveable and fresh. Then the real stuff happens and I feel so bad and so relatable, I want to give her a hug (and that's why I hate how Paimon and MC act on her story quest. The guilt-tripping is INSANE!)
From now on, I'll always follow her story onwards. Favorite nation, Favorite travail characters (Lyney and Lynette), and finally, Favorite Archon
IN FURINA WE TRUST!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I also was very icky when Paimon was PUSHING about the acting favor despite the Traveler's attempt to stop it. However, I think that's the point they wanted to show. People will be very very pushy and not actually be helpful with regard to someone's struggle.
But at the same time, I think her SQ can be a little help for people who's struggling on doing a thing they actually love. Furina's forte is acting - even she knows about it since despite the duo letting her rest, she went her own way to see if she can help still in any way. Of course, in reality, this won't work all the time but I'm taking it as an inspiration for people to not give up. Remember, she's already revered as an actor then fell from grace yet she found new meaning and understanding both on what happened to her and to something she really likes. She's still hesistant to do another play again at the end but Neuvillette also thinks its alright. She will still heal her own way.
Finally finished the archon quest yesterday. ( Trying to understand the greater Honkaiverse through all 3 games is a grindy task)
Once the "a look into Furina's mind stage play" happened, I could relate SO HARD. Feeling the need to mask in order to discipline myself . HER mask has been on for so long. You can just feel her cracking as the long years passed.
Did anyone read her character profile?
because quite a lot of time has passed and the first person who visited her was clorinde and it's the cutest thing ever
I do appreciate that Furina takes control of her artistic choices in the end and decides she's going to be a director instead. Yeah the Vision coming during acting was weird, but she didn't go "well ok fine ill act". She did genuinely enjoy helping the troupe as a director - aomeone who *directs*, but in a more genuine way than as a Fake Archon.
I think her getting a Vision makes perfect sense. From one of your previous videos, you mentioned getting a Vision means "getting marked" by Celestia; as she gets back on stage, back in the spotlight, right after Fontaine and her was supposed to get punished was Celestia saying "we see you now"
Also she is best girl second to Keqing fr. Definitely not biased.
I think, after reading Neuvillette’s character stories, He probably gave it to her, because of the little claws and it seems as he’s the one granting visions now. But otherwise yeah, it’s like his mark k of recognition and kind of his apology.
I loved her since the first encounter, something about her reminded me of Venti -my favourite archon- and I became so curious to know about her, what was the duality she had all over her design about.
Fontaine as a whole had this Mondstad nostalgia over it- since the place of reference isn't that far apart.
No u so right for this! I never realzied but she reminds me so much of Venti and Fontaine gives me that nostalgia feeling Mondstadt gives. Guess thats why she became my sec fav archon (behind Venti of course)
my favorite youtuber covering my favorite character let’s goooo!! ❤
LETS GOO!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
The fact that you can make so many history comparisons is SO respectable
GI always dealth with these kind of themes but very subtly.. in Fontain, I think they're being much more explicit! I really loved your analysis on Furina!
I liked Furina the first time we met her and My love and respect for her character grew as I was doing the AQ and SQ. Many still downplay her role and the suffering she endured.. saying that she is childish, immature:')) and believing " Focalors is the mature one, the real one, Furina's mother /sister 😂" yet failing to realize that divinity is also part of Furina. They are the 2 sides of the same coin. Furina/Focalors is too harsh on herself. Be it as a Divine or as a Human, she always put her Nation, her people and her justice above herself. She is strong and flawed, she suffered and still have the kind heart to love and move forward! I am glad how wonderfully they managed to show it in her character in the AQ and SQ and present the mental suffering many of us endure. heck even Paimon and Traveller's insensitive and rude attitude was realistic 😂
Anyway,Thank you for making this wonderful character analysis video. Being able to relate to a character and being understood and seen.. is a very cathartic experience.
One thing that broke my heart, was the scene that played as Neuviette gave the guilty verdict (before the death sentence)
Furina was in the void and she saw Nev, she tried to reach towards him, as a way to beg for him to stop, to see her hurt and stop tearing her act apart. But he turned and walked away. She looks to Us, the traveler and paimon, seemingly going to reach to them too, but they also turn and walk away. This is two (or three) people who have told Furina to tell the truth, and she still didn’t. These are the two opportunities she had to spill, and she had a sliver of hope that their willingness to listen meant they actually cared a little: probably the only time in those 500 years she’s experienced that.
But they turn away, they react to her act with anger instead of trying to understand why.
And when Nev finishes the line, declares her guilty, her heart shatters into glass pieces, broken and unable to be put back together. And all she can do is sit, and disappear.
The people, even those closest to her, reacted to her lie with anger and resentment. They never asked “why?” They just judged and walked away. They even LEFT HER on her throne CRYING for a while before the Oratrice started to do the execution. They wrote her off, she wasn’t important. Even to Nev, and the traveler, she was just a liar.
And this is what it’s like to struggle with mental illness. If you speak, you risk being shunned and judged, but if you chose to hide it and you get caught, it’s always “how dare you lie to me I thought you cared?” “How dare you lie you are a horrible person”
Truly, you can never live without judgement when you are mentally ill in the world, nothing is ever enough, but my god am I proud of Furina for making it through. Everyone Involved in that trial needs to apologize or at least ACKNOWLEDGE her heroism. She deserves the world.
this video hit me so incredibly hard, i feel like i’ve been hit by a truck. hearing that you, someone i idolise, goes through the same kind of shit that i do makes me feel so much more.. normal, i guess? you’re an awesome creator ily
22:09 what the story means is probably that her trauma shouldn't take away the sole career path she would have absolutely love if not the trauma. that is why I like this ending it is complex rude yet helping furina to make a first step into realizing acting is good and not traumatizing anymore. I know such moves should be done after some therapy yet it is not like teyvat has lots of them running around and asking sad people if they want to heal ==^
The way you've been so consistently putting out amazing content needs to be studied you're the Content archon frfr
I saw Furina gaining her vision when she was singing as Neuvillette acknowledging her wish to be able to enjoy something she loved without it feeling like was tied to her past. I saw the boundary she set as a reactive thing mainly because Ive done that. I no longer have that boundary myself cos I SHOULD be allowed to enjoy those things.
I saw the end of the quest as her realizing that isolating herself like she was wrong and she still enjoyed the stage life.
i just found this channel, i really like these kinds of topics, please continue making more deeptalk videos like these, it really resonates with me and maybe other people as well. Especially because being lonely playing genshin, the game's story line is really a nice treat for me, and it heals a small part of my broken soul. Even if its just a game
As someone who spent their entire life masking, Furina has become my favorite character in anything, ever. Everything in this video is peak and absolutely validating to hear. (Also I was wondering what Alhaitham was doing there the entire video until you pointed it out lmao, I know you secretly have a soft spot for him don't hide it)
SO SO SO EXCITED FOR THE VIDEO 🥹😆🥹😆🥹😆🥹😆🥹😆🥹😆🥹😆
I can't decide between Neuvilette and Furina as my favorites! And really lovely video, thank you.
omg love the makeup its so cute also its so mad like one of my top 10 characters came from genshin they really stepped up the writing like damn
I can already tell this'll be good
Idk about the vision. I really hope that it was meant differently bc now the hydro visions are being given by Neuvillette. Let's hope he knows what he is doing. 😢
i mean in her vision story its stated that her vision wasn’t acquired bc of an ambition but was given to her as a reward for her past deeds. I see this as neuvi opening up a new path in her life, because she states that she feels useless and has no idea where she’s going. Now she’s the first sovereign given vision holder in teyvat which is rlly wholesome
@@rllyb0red719 oh thx i didn't know that. Hopefully he will also tell her that in person.
you are incredible, I love your attitude towards the videos I can swear you define comfort and I hope you also are proud of it all
I enjoyed your re-account of Fruina!
Good video!
What a great video, as someone that shares a lot of things in common with furina (including bday) I feel like this was a great deep dive I to her character. Even learned about new things from this video like the spoon theory for example (I probably heard about it before but didn't pay it much mind).
I want her to be happy, just like I wish I could be.
Edit: I would also like to add that while everyone was making fun of her up until act 5 I knew there was more behind her facade, so if I ever did laugh about her it wasn't in a mean way because I related to her even before knowing the truth. I'm terrible with words so I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say.
To me Furina was always a traumatized character full of coping mechanisms, I just didn't trust hoyo would display that properly since ig my expectations were very low (even tho sumeru was good, imo inazuma was such a flop and it shaped my expectations). It was kind of shocking for hoyo to be like haha she's actually even way farther traumatized than you were hoping. Wanderer and Furina are my favorite trauma characters because of where they are in their healing - still very dysfunctional but brimming with potential in a way that I quite relate to and project myself on to. They wrote Furina for me too, they wrote Furina for us fr
girl, your makeup is so pretty!!! also the video itself was great, I really do see myself in furina and I'm so glad she's here for us to enjoy. she's an incredible character
damn this video is basically telling me how much I relate to furina 🤣
No really, as an E lurker that hasnt really been up to date with your videos, this was a really *really* good deep dive on the character herself and dare I say a really good commentary on how some human brains work. It seems well-researched and open-minded, so thank you for putting your time and effort to this!
Thank you SO MUCH for making me feel so seen. I felt Furina's story so dear to me, and it's all because her whole existence to me is a metaphore to what was being autistic for me, masking for years in order to fit society and ending up with a whole mixed bag of trauma and mental illness as a consequence. I felt a bit crazy for pining my autism/neurodivergence on her, but this video made me feel so seen and understood. Furina and Wanderer are both too close to me, too special to me.
omg i had the same thoughts ab the ending of her character quest 😭 i feel validated
PD: marie antoinette never truly said the "let them have cake" quote, it was propaganda made up by the revolutionaries, but ur point is still valid
girl i cried so hard while playing the archon quest and soon as i finished it i watched your video…. i relate to her alot
there’s one part about the original scene that I thought was genius. When she makes her speech and you’re guiding her you are given the option to do the same thing and be humble but now you know the context of what is at stake and what will happen. It’s a tiny detail but it really fastens the bond between you and the reasoning behind her choices and persona.
I really wanted to give Furina a bit hug after the Archon Quest. I had a good feeling she was acting a bit from first Fontaine quest, you know, that one gut feeling you get sometimes. Since you were so open about your mental health, I want to give you a salute for being so brave to sharing this and actually not caring about how some people think about you sharing this... unless you were and I'm sorry about assuming this. I hope you have a good one and make sure to take good care of yourself :)
UGH E!!!!!!!! Another banger!!!!! I'm glad we got your point of view! As I am a person who loves silly goofy characters like Furina, but I 100% understand Furina's Irritability, especially in EN, BUT the EN language has the most range and acting perfection throughout the story. Amber Lee Connors does SUCH a good job and her screeching voice echoes in my mind when Furina gets upset. UGH I'll be eating good watching this during work today!! Great work GAYMER!!!!
Thank you for the video! i loved it and i really appreciate it! Can't really add much in regards to most of the video since you and a lot of ppl already said what was needed to be said so instead i will talk about her story quest.
I personally have a different outlook on her story quest than a lot of people. I was kinda lost aswell for few days and didn't know what to truly think about certain things until recently. Despite some issues i have with it like Paimon and Traveler being insensitive at the beginning, i very much loved the direction her story went.
Furina never truly hated the stage. She does have her trauma but she not only decided to abandon acting(fairly so) but also decided to turn her back from performances and that entire field in general. She had weeks to think it over and decided to at least set boundaries for herself.
in the story quest she is a parallel the director of the troupe, since director was the one who this play called "Little Oceanid" was made for and who Little Oceanid Clio was a in certain parts parallel to. This director brought the troupe together and gave them future, just like Furina gave people of Fontaine their future. Troupe characters even state that their director's struggles were unseen and that she was hiding them(again just like Furina).
For the troupe, their director was their hero and they made this final play/performance as their farewell to her, as their gratitude for her, hence Furina who parallels the director and plays role of Clio(who is the homage to the director) receives the vision at the end of the performance as her reward(gratitude from Neuvillette) aswell as her saying farewell to her past and moving onto the future with new ambition. This is both symbolism for the play of her farewell and her acceptance of her new role as the director.
Her future ambition It is to hear,see and feel people's true and real thoughts and feelings.
in her character description it is also stated that she will take the role resembling that of a director.
Taking a paragraph from her vision description:
"Visions are usually objects that appear in response to humankind's most fervent wishes, but this one, in particular, seemed more like a reward for her past deeds.
As Furina grasped it, its reflected radiance seemed to contain her heart, filled once again by this performance.
Performing had, in the past, brought her much pain, to the point where she had turned her back on the stage, but she indubitably understood the glory and brilliance of the stage best of all, and could give those who chase their dreams on the stage her matchless guidance and support.
As to the question of what to do next, which had plagued her for so long, she now had a clear answer:
To see this world from the perspective of the audience, and create the greatest performances without stepping onstage.
No longer would her attention be focused only on musicals - as long as it's related to performance, Furina is interested in taking part from behind the curtain."
I think stuff relating to performances and stage was really the most impactful and personally resonating way the story could move forward for Furina in the future. Baking or anything else wouldn't really work here in my opinion, both in the story writing sense and for her own character. Besides she will not perform on stage anymore so it's not like she will relive her traumas all over again with PTSD here and there.
Also some people say that the way she gained her vision wasn't grandiose or special because she had no reaction to it, but in my personal opinion it was very very special because gaining a vision doesn't require an insane reaction from the holder, visions themselves are a reaction to the holders wishes(not the other way around) and what a response it was! besides Furina did have her own personal thoughts on the matter of gaining a vision which she partly shares with the Traveler if you talk to her after you complete her story quest. i just wish we saw image of Neuvillette looking at her performance so give more homage to him giving her the vision, instead of getting it from his Vision description and hints but oh well!
I would love to see a video on Story Telling and the Live Service Model.
It feels like an aspect that's isn't discussed very often are how these are characters but also products
I like that Furina at every turn established what her boundaries were and had enough self reflection to know that leaving the door open would lead to a backward Spiral
But I do wonder if her quest was not only a deeper dive into her trauma but also a means of not having her wallow In her negative space
You could read it as inspiring or detrimental but it does feel like she was pushed into a new head space instead of being given the time to self discover
Most Genshin characters have gone through the Arc but Furina is a different take we see her story unfold
Which brings up a question Does having a non idealized version of a characters ruin the appeal of gambling
I would want to say no but I feel like Characters rarely have somber moments because it would ruin there image as a product
Raise your hand if you wanted to kick Paimon into the sun during the Story Quest ✋
Furina has, by far, my favourite character development we've seen from the playable characters. To see her mask slowly fall apart during each act of the Archon Quest was genuinely heartbreaking. Her hopelessness, helplessness, and 500 years of mental anguish was incredibly well-portrayed.
I WISH I COULD LIKE THIS VIDEO ANOTHER THOUSAND TIMES!!!! U AND FURINA DESERVE IT 😭😭😭😭
THANK. YOU. for mentioning the boundary stomping in her story quest. I actually REALLY like how the story quest started, the fact that she put up that boundary and that (though after some pushing from paimon -_-) we accepted it and she was able to help them in another way. I was HEARTBROKEN when she was forced to do it anyway in the end. Im disabled and autistic. Ive had to mask a lot of different things for a lot of different reasons in my life. from the moment we met furina I could tell there was gonna be a MUCH larger story with her. when that header came up in the archon quest that was like "scene 18 0000 smth smth" with all the tally marks, I gasped so hard I almost started coughing. she deserves a break. something that really stuck out for me as well is that, when we later ask Neuvillete about Furina he mentions she had said she "was just very tired" or smth of that affect. and idk just that singular sentence. nothing more. nothing less. it just shows that she was finally able to let the mask down for a bit. I woulsnt be surprised if, in a later quest or smth we found out she actually slept for like a month straight in between the archon quest and her story quest. she deserves to rest
HOLY SHIT SHE IS THE maria antonieta
This was some beautiful content. I agree completely & Furina is one of my favorites now.
First of all i love your videos because you seem so genuine, just because you're hiding you inner struggle doesn't mean you're pretending to be something you're not, that's just another side of yourself, it's a part of who you are, you are not your mental illness and i think that's something a lot of us struggle to understand. People love you for who you are even if you don't show them everything. The side of you that you show them is as much a part of you as the side that struggles. Of course we do have to act sometimes because society requires it but it's important to understand that you're so much more than your mental illness, that's just one part of who you are, it doesn't define you.
That said, it doesn't really apply to Furina because in her situation she was literally forced to act as someone else and hide everything about her true self and people didn't even like who she pretended to be, that's so damn sad... I actually liked her from the beginning and i'm not saying this like "oh ho ho no i'm not like all of you who made fun of her, i don't make mistakes" (actually a big part of it is that i really wanted to like her because i love her design so much and from the moment it was leaked i was like "oh my god i love you"), i just thought it was obvious that there was something much deeper underneath her high and mighty and honestly petty attitude. Of course i had no idea just HOW deep it was but it was obvious it all came from a place of insecurity and to me her attitude just seemed like a coping mechanism (a really bad one but who am i to judge how other people cope). Besides, the whole fontaine arc including the teasers and trailers was so full of metaphors about acting and stages and performances that i was positive what we were seeing was all an act and there was something much bigger going on behind the stage. And yet, her story still caught me off guard and brought me to tears, i really wasn't ready for the extent of it. She's just a mere human with no special abilities until she got her vision but to me she's by far the strongest character in this entire story and i love her SO much.... as for what's yet to come I can't wait to see more of Navia (and her relationship with Clorinde bc that's SO my cup of tea you don't understand), she was another amazing character who was forced into a position she wasn't ready for and does her best to be deserving of it but feels like it's never enough, and while Furina was all about mental illness Navia's story is all about coping with loss and balancing it with so many responsabilities and expectations and i think that's beautiful, fontaine is really delivering a cast full of deep and complex characters 💕 (oh my god i'm SO sorry for the wall of text, i got really carried away but now that i've typed all that i'm posting it, if you've read it all know that you're very brave and strong and i am truly sorry)
Wow that did not feel like 30 minutes... awesome video, I loved how you picked out all the little layers of how you can interpret furina's character, she truly is one of the most complex characters in all of genshin. Awesome vid! See you next time ^^
21:07 I also felt the same way when I originally played through the story but reading more in her character story it makes sense and now I’m gonna ramble abt it in the comments because I love furina so much
The reason why furina got a vision is because it was more like a reward for her past efforts and I think the reason why Nuevi chose to give it to her in that moment was because it was the moment she broke out of her shell and became less fearful off acting
In one of her lines, furina talks abt how she used to be scared of the stage and scared of playing a role in an opera ever again but then at that moment in the story “the little oceanide” that fear was gone and she stopped associating her trauma to acting and can enjoy it as a hobby or passion. Furina was scared of going up to the stage and be judges ruthlessly by others once again, scared that her every move is gonna be watched and criticized, because that was her big source of trauma is being put in the spotlight again to be judged, especially now since she thinks everyone hates her after everything, but then at the end she realizes how this time, everyone was applauding her performance and no one was judging her. This time, she can be herself without being judged and she stopped seeing the stage as something to fear and seeing how everybody was smiling around her ignited her passion for acting
I also first didn’t like how the story forced to do something she clearly didn’t want to do and didn’t like and thought furina should never act again, but I think her facing her trauma and overcoming it is even better (I still believe furina has a long way to go to fully heal but the first step is the most important to get better) but I still prefer furina to be more like a director rather then an actor, so she can feel like she’s more in control this time while taking acting gigs from time to time
I interpreted her getting the vision during the performance less as her acknowledging a love of acting (though I think that was implied) and more as a recognition of her efforts in helping others who need her. Like she didn't have to follow up with the troupe after turning them down or fill in to act, but she did those things so that she could help people who need her, like she did when she played the role of archon. And this desire to help others, sometimes at the detriment to the self, is also a trait I notice in myself and in the neurodivergent people in my life