Gotcha! I thought its damage was increased based on the opps attack but it straight up just uses the opps attack STAT, gotcha gotcha, Ty for the correction!
Another common mistake is not looking up egg moves before breeding. Most of the time it will make or break the pokemon, making them less viable in competetive if it doesn't have that egg move. A few examples of important egg moves; Mach Punch on Conkeldurr. Dragon Dance on Salamence. Nasty Plot on Togekiss.
Yo I literally started breeding last night for a scizor (my favorite mon) so this helps a bunch. I'm on a budget so I've got to focus on not making a mistake like this. Thanks for everything you do.
I ran a 3x31, ATK, DEF, SPEED that did well in PVP, but I'm now using a 5x31 and it is performing slightly better. Sometimes 2/3x31 is enough to get you by.
Video is fresh enough that some people can use this extrar tip. Don't get 31 Attack IV on your Sp. Attackers, it actively makes them worst. Confusion (the status) deals damage based on your ATK vs your DEF, and Foul Play uses your ATK stat to determine damage. If a Mon doesn't use ATK, it's actually better if it has Zero.
Ghost and Psychic types, as well as Glass Cannon archetype/weak defense pokemon tend to be affected by this the most in PVP. Foul Play can hit a lot of those mons hard by having the 31 ATK when it's not needed and create a situation where you could have a Pokemon who can check your mon where they otherwise wouldn't have as much leverage; or it being the difference between a OHKO vs a 2HKO. I'm a fan of Foul Play Mandibuzz because you really can get some unexpected kills if the player didn't take this into consideration in team building. Cofagrigus is a popular physical wall in OU and takes noticeably more damage from Foul Play with perfect 6IV's vs 5x31, 0 ATK. You want your wall to be as "wall-ish" as possible and this oversight can make a difference.
So here's a recent story about my firdt 5x31 breed. I decided to breed a 5x31 Jolly Sneasel simply because Weavile was one of my favourite Pokémon EVER. I got everything prepared, the breeders, the everstones, all the calculation done and even accidentaly got a particle mixed into the breed lol. I also had in my mind that I DIDN'T (I'll say again, DIDN'T) want to make it 100% perfect for PvP because I don't play any PvP at all and just wanted to have fun whilr breeding a cool Pokemon, especially after seeing so many 5x31 linked in the global chat... So while I bred it, it came out very nice, 5x31 except sp.atk, correct nature, just needed to evolve and train it. In my happines, I shared my newborn Sneasel in global chat, just to a CM come and say that "it needed Pursuit and Icicle Crash as egg moves". Now I said earlier that I wasn't thinking about PvP AT ALL. I knew about the egg moves but just wanted to breed without egg moves for more of a casual play... So yeah, that made me very mad and sad, even if it is a simple thing... But now I have a good and happy Weavile
Thanks for sharing your story, im glad you love ur weavile :) other people are always gonna critique and they stink for that >:( Global chat especially can be brutal and unfair. Im super happy you made ur perfect icey boy. Hope you have fun playing PokeMMO and find some more positive people to show off your weavile to :D
I never knew there was so much more to pokemon.... im just gonna ignore it and have a good time. All this minmaxing is going to make me grind instead of just having fun
One huge mistake no one ever mentions in new player guides is that dropping off your pokemon in the daycare doesnt have to do with breeding, you gotta talk to an old guy that only appears outside the day care AFTER the elite 4. Each times your pokemon levels in the daycares will cost you $1000 and i had no idea until an admin told me. So i lost 20k for two patrats i thought would be there for free. Its really dumb that they dont tell you before hand and can ruin everything.
Ive been watching your channel for quite a while and I must say you are totally amazing at what you do especially when you explain certain things, and I must say your very convincing and out going and I love the positive outlooks, Keep up the good work :😁👌
Alright time for a epic breed fail tale It was about 3 am while I was breeding a perfect gengar i was at 5*31 when I accidently bred a litwick instead of gastly that cost me like 1.7m for a breed worth 400k 1.3 Loss
Idk if u remember me or not but I've been watching you since the start and suddenly I remembered of pokemmmo and searched it on yt and I see ur channel is doing really good, congrats! And keep it up!
I like watching PSA videos like these that educate the community. Sadly a lot of PokeMMO (and Pokemon players in general) suffer from lack of common sense and don’t often know why they’re doing the things they do, but do them anyway. A lot of people also don’t breed for battling, but because 4/5/6x31 IV Pokemon look really nice, so they do it to be a bit of a completionist or to brag. I bet a lot of it is for Pokeyen, too. Either way, this was a good video and I’d like to see a “Mistakes new PokeMMO players make” type of series just like this!
I've got almost 300 hours into one account. I'm finally on the last region. But I've never went to breeding. I figured if I could grind for whatever pokemon I'm looking for and with some patience and luck, catch a pokemon with good IV's.
YES! its usually objectively beneficial for every pokemon to have 31 hp, def and sp.def, but it definitely becomes less important on certain pokemon (like sweepers that are so frail they wont live 99% of attacks anyway) so it comes down to budget mostly, ALTHOUGH there are niche situations like belly drum azumarill where u actually need to make sure u have an even HP value so u always proc ur sitrus berry upon using belly drum, and if u dont want to have to invest a small amount of HP EVs to make sure its even, u might have aim for a below 31 HP IV, Hope this explained everything clearly :) Lemme know if u have anymore questions!
I’m trying to make a 6x31 dratini but now that I think about it I’m not sure if I want to since I’m not thinking of selling to make profits or anything or really doing pvp
so does having that "unnecessary" 31 IV still raise its value or no? cause i would assume as much as not every pokemon is a mixed in terms of physical attack or special attack that say umbreon had foul play AND special attacks and such that 31 would make the one attack still do more yes? along with the other special attacks ofc
yes and no? it raises it VERY slightly cuz ppl will pay more for the 6x31 green aesthetic even if it’s useless, the umbreon example doesnt rly work because ur not usually running special attacks on it and foul play uses ur opponents attack stat. But yes the unnecessary iv can still raise the value but not more than what it costs to put the iv onto it. Hope this made sense :) let me know if u have anymore questions!
@@patrouski thanks much! honestly beena great help so far and one of the most responsive youtubers out here. thanks for the help with me and everyone else you make these for!
they are still important but u can go 20-25+ in them and usually be fine, for example for jolteon, going 31 Speed+sp.atk with 25+ in hp,def, and spdef is still very competitive.
I almost just bred corphish to have 31 Special Attack and looking at the most expensive Crawdaunts, they all don't have 31 SpA and have movesets with just physical moves. I'm just not sure what gender to breed for if I am looking to sell?
@@patrouski thank you for the help I appreciate it :) People in global were saying female which I wasn't too sure about but I guess it depends on the market
I just started this game so this is great to know, but what if I just want to get all 6 IV’s to 31 because I want to perfect my Pokémon? I really like glaceon and wanna do that, but is it a bad idea to do all 6 just because it looks cool?
Great question, absolutely feel free to make 6x31s of pokémon u love even tho it may “objectively useless” if it makes u happy then its effectively useful 😎
This video should help you: ua-cam.com/video/PB9kUyShC60/v-deo.html i cant remember if extreme speed is an egg move or special. If its egg you have to breed it with a pokemon within the same egg group that knows extreme speed (make sure the dratini is female in the breed and the other poke is male) Usually u can just google "how to breed X on X" for egg move mons cuz they are all so specific. I cant log on to check atm unfortunately but i hope this helps you find the answer!!
You don't need Attack when using Foul play since it uses the opponent's attack
Gotcha! I thought its damage was increased based on the opps attack but it straight up just uses the opps attack STAT, gotcha gotcha, Ty for the correction!
You're a legend. I'm watching all your vids as i grind through kanto. i just started 2 days ago. This game is elite
I'm literally doing the same thing :)
Nice tip, this would help lots of players not waste money on making a Gengar have 31 atk IV
Ye thats a great example i see a lot!
Great example, Mandibuzz's Foul Play has a high chance to 2HKO w/ 0 ATK IV, vs a guaranteed OHKO at 31 ATK. It really does make a difference.
The odd focus punch is the only reason to have a 31att Gengar.
Another common mistake is not looking up egg moves before breeding. Most of the time it will make or break the pokemon, making them less viable in competetive if it doesn't have that egg move.
A few examples of important egg moves; Mach Punch on Conkeldurr. Dragon Dance on Salamence. Nasty Plot on Togekiss.
Yo I literally started breeding last night for a scizor (my favorite mon) so this helps a bunch. I'm on a budget so I've got to focus on not making a mistake like this. Thanks for everything you do.
Make a 2x31 3x28 if ur budget
Btw don't ignore nature
I ran a 3x31, ATK, DEF, SPEED that did well in PVP, but I'm now using a 5x31 and it is performing slightly better. Sometimes 2/3x31 is enough to get you by.
Video is fresh enough that some people can use this extrar tip. Don't get 31 Attack IV on your Sp. Attackers, it actively makes them worst. Confusion (the status) deals damage based on your ATK vs your DEF, and Foul Play uses your ATK stat to determine damage. If a Mon doesn't use ATK, it's actually better if it has Zero.
That’s good to know! Thanks
Ghost and Psychic types, as well as Glass Cannon archetype/weak defense pokemon tend to be affected by this the most in PVP. Foul Play can hit a lot of those mons hard by having the 31 ATK when it's not needed and create a situation where you could have a Pokemon who can check your mon where they otherwise wouldn't have as much leverage; or it being the difference between a OHKO vs a 2HKO. I'm a fan of Foul Play Mandibuzz because you really can get some unexpected kills if the player didn't take this into consideration in team building.
Cofagrigus is a popular physical wall in OU and takes noticeably more damage from Foul Play with perfect 6IV's vs 5x31, 0 ATK. You want your wall to be as "wall-ish" as possible and this oversight can make a difference.
So here's a recent story about my firdt 5x31 breed.
I decided to breed a 5x31 Jolly Sneasel simply because Weavile was one of my favourite Pokémon EVER. I got everything prepared, the breeders, the everstones, all the calculation done and even accidentaly got a particle mixed into the breed lol. I also had in my mind that I DIDN'T (I'll say again, DIDN'T) want to make it 100% perfect for PvP because I don't play any PvP at all and just wanted to have fun whilr breeding a cool Pokemon, especially after seeing so many 5x31 linked in the global chat... So while I bred it, it came out very nice, 5x31 except sp.atk, correct nature, just needed to evolve and train it. In my happines, I shared my newborn Sneasel in global chat, just to a CM come and say that "it needed Pursuit and Icicle Crash as egg moves". Now I said earlier that I wasn't thinking about PvP AT ALL. I knew about the egg moves but just wanted to breed without egg moves for more of a casual play...
So yeah, that made me very mad and sad, even if it is a simple thing... But now I have a good and happy Weavile
Thanks for sharing your story, im glad you love ur weavile :) other people are always gonna critique and they stink for that >:( Global chat especially can be brutal and unfair. Im super happy you made ur perfect icey boy. Hope you have fun playing PokeMMO and find some more positive people to show off your weavile to :D
@@patrouski Thank you! :3
I never knew there was so much more to pokemon.... im just gonna ignore it and have a good time. All this minmaxing is going to make me grind instead of just having fun
One huge mistake no one ever mentions in new player guides is that dropping off your pokemon in the daycare doesnt have to do with breeding, you gotta talk to an old guy that only appears outside the day care AFTER the elite 4. Each times your pokemon levels in the daycares will cost you $1000 and i had no idea until an admin told me. So i lost 20k for two patrats i thought would be there for free. Its really dumb that they dont tell you before hand and can ruin everything.
Let em rot there forever and use another daycare xD
Ive been watching your channel for quite a while and I must say you are totally amazing at what you do especially when you explain certain things, and I must say your very convincing and out going and I love the positive outlooks, Keep up the good work :😁👌
Personally, I always breed my Pokemon 6x31 regardless, just because if I have an IV that is not 31, I feel like I am loosing out.
I’m in the same boat. Even if it doesn’t matter I just like the looks
Alright time for a epic breed fail tale
It was about 3 am while I was breeding a perfect gengar i was at 5*31 when I accidently bred a litwick instead of gastly that cost me like 1.7m for a breed worth 400k 1.3 Loss
:'c
your Mic quality over the years has gone to the moon . ya love to hear it :)
Eevees in particular are an extremely expensive pokemon to breed. Where the females only have a 12.5% chance at spawning, breeding a female costs 21k
This makes sense. I'm not knowledgeable with breeding, but I definitely asked "why the 31 on both att and spc?"
So yay for me for understanding that!
BRB making a 6x31 natured HM friend.
Idk if u remember me or not but I've been watching you since the start and suddenly I remembered of pokemmmo and searched it on yt and I see ur channel is doing really good, congrats! And keep it up!
Yeah, my first breed was an all 6 Mankey. It was more of a flex than anything.
I like watching PSA videos like these that educate the community.
Sadly a lot of PokeMMO (and Pokemon players in general) suffer from lack of common sense and don’t often know why they’re doing the things they do, but do them anyway.
A lot of people also don’t breed for battling, but because 4/5/6x31 IV Pokemon look really nice, so they do it to be a bit of a completionist or to brag. I bet a lot of it is for Pokeyen, too.
Either way, this was a good video and I’d like to see a “Mistakes new PokeMMO players make” type of series just like this!
Thanks for the video man. I'm really new to the game, you've been a huge help so far.
I've got almost 300 hours into one account. I'm finally on the last region. But I've never went to breeding. I figured if I could grind for whatever pokemon I'm looking for and with some patience and luck, catch a pokemon with good IV's.
I'd add the PSA about the adding of the EGG moves BEFORE you get your mon multiple 31 ivs
So I have been thinking shouldnt hp ivs be a must for almost every pokemon to make it have more hp? Or am I thinking this in a wrong way
YES! its usually objectively beneficial for every pokemon to have 31 hp, def and sp.def, but it definitely becomes less important on certain pokemon (like sweepers that are so frail they wont live 99% of attacks anyway) so it comes down to budget mostly, ALTHOUGH there are niche situations like belly drum azumarill where u actually need to make sure u have an even HP value so u always proc ur sitrus berry upon using belly drum, and if u dont want to have to invest a small amount of HP EVs to make sure its even, u might have aim for a below 31 HP IV, Hope this explained everything clearly :) Lemme know if u have anymore questions!
@@patrouski what is your discord cuz I have some questions
@@nickferguson8265 linked below every video
I’m trying to make a 6x31 dratini but now that I think about it I’m not sure if I want to since I’m not thinking of selling to make profits or anything or really doing pvp
Instructions unclear gonna try and farm shiny Squirtle and figure out how to give it water spout and max IVs
Even umbreon you don't want attack ivs, foul play deals damage based on your targets attack stat, not your own.
Also, before breeding, check for egg moves, it has happened to me that I bred a 5x31 Marill, without Belly Drum & Aqua Jet
Dude that’s so sad :(
Just to let you know, foul play uses your opponent's atk, so, you just need 31 in all 3 defensive stat.
so does having that "unnecessary" 31 IV still raise its value or no? cause i would assume as much as not every pokemon is a mixed in terms of physical attack or special attack that say umbreon had foul play AND special attacks and such that 31 would make the one attack still do more yes? along with the other special attacks ofc
yes and no? it raises it VERY slightly cuz ppl will pay more for the 6x31 green aesthetic even if it’s useless, the umbreon example doesnt rly work because ur not usually running special attacks on it and foul play uses ur opponents attack stat. But yes the unnecessary iv can still raise the value but not more than what it costs to put the iv onto it. Hope this made sense :) let me know if u have anymore questions!
@@patrouski thanks much! honestly beena great help so far and one of the most responsive youtubers out here. thanks for the help with me and everyone else you make these for!
Could you do catching ghastlies or shuppets for 1 hr? Ghatlies for pvp and shuppet for amu farmer
Are 31 ivs important in S.def and Def stats in Pokemons that are not walls and are used offensively ?
they are still important but u can go 20-25+ in them and usually be fine, for example for jolteon, going 31 Speed+sp.atk with 25+ in hp,def, and spdef is still very competitive.
What pokemon is good to train before elite four?
krookodile and scrafty are my go to’s! but here’s my top 5 list: ua-cam.com/video/UmQZwcd2Y7k/v-deo.html
I almost just bred corphish to have 31 Special Attack and looking at the most expensive Crawdaunts, they all don't have 31 SpA and have movesets with just physical moves. I'm just not sure what gender to breed for if I am looking to sell?
If your selling it as a crawdaunt comp, gender shouldn’t matter. If your selling as a breeder, id go male.
@@patrouski thank you for the help I appreciate it :)
People in global were saying female which I wasn't too sure about but I guess it depends on the market
it's good for breeding for field mix attacker but ye there are only limited field mix attacker pokemons
like infernape blaziken
i have infact made this mistake while breeding
I just started this game so this is great to know, but what if I just want to get all 6 IV’s to 31 because I want to perfect my Pokémon? I really like glaceon and wanna do that, but is it a bad idea to do all 6 just because it looks cool?
Great question, absolutely feel free to make 6x31s of pokémon u love even tho it may “objectively useless” if it makes u happy then its effectively useful 😎
Yo big dog what item do I need to give dragonite to get extreme speed through the breed
This video should help you: ua-cam.com/video/PB9kUyShC60/v-deo.html i cant remember if extreme speed is an egg move or special. If its egg you have to breed it with a pokemon within the same egg group that knows extreme speed (make sure the dratini is female in the breed and the other poke is male) Usually u can just google "how to breed X on X" for egg move mons cuz they are all so specific. I cant log on to check atm unfortunately but i hope this helps you find the answer!!
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Very helpful! Thanks a ton
What if i just want all the pokemon on my team to have 6x13 ivs
Go for it :)
A very good tip and information for new players, it'll really help them!.
How get move yawn on eeve
Great video to this day!
Ty🙏🏿
good morning pat. have a good day as well.
I hit the lottery with my tynamo
Nah Foul Play only uses the foe's attack stat so no need for attack IVs on umbreon
yeah but 6x31 pokemon are hilarious
UR A NICE GUY
no u