Criminal Lawyer Breaks Down The Apple River St*bbing Trial & Verdict
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Criminal Lawyer Bruce Rivers Reacts to The Apple River Stabbing Trial & Verdict
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Whoever raised these young people should really be embarrassed.
This pack mentality starts way earlier and is never addressed, even in kindergarten. I am glad it's caught on camera more and more.
Yup absolutely. I’ve been in groups of friends when I was in high school and college and NEVER would have acted like this and neither would my friends and we played collegiate rugby so we weren’t a bunch of tiny little 120 pounds who just didn’t bully people cause we were small. We had respect for people. This is a pack of grown toddlers raised by other adult toddlers. These parents failed miserably. This entire case is so hard to watch because now this trash behavior is encouraged. “Hey look! We can get away acting like a bunch of wild animals and totally fine!”
I think this dude acted terribly, but this is one of those situation I don't feel sorry for the victim. "Fuck around and find out" is perfect fit for him.
Yep these total shit bags have done this before this aint the first time. They recorded this one this time and it fuck them too
@@lukycharms9970 They didn't act like animals. Animals are usually pretty nice, and just try to avoid problems whenever possible. They acted like a bunch of loud, drunk and douchey, humans.
Edit: But if I had to compare them to a pack of animals, it would be a pack of hyenas. That's actually one animal that is somewhat similar in a way. The thing is when hyenas act like that it is because they are hunting to survive. None of them had any valid reason to act like that.
In a parallel universe, Miu says he's looking for a cellphone and the teens help him look for it...
If they aren’t drunk and high teens, maybe.
@barrydehatchett8692, Yes, you have made an interesting comment. I'm 74 and I was recently visiting Thailand for a month and that's exactly what would have happened there. They would have helped me look for my phone, no question about it.
If only Miu told them he lost a phone and they would look for it too
He lied about looking for the phone. He chased them down after grabbing his knife bc he wanted a conflict. It’s why he is guilty. If you believe he told the truth there, it would be literally the only thing he didn’t lie about.
He assumed they took the cell phone which is what caused him to run into them and stop them and then not say a word. In another universe he asks non aggressively if they have or have seen the cell phone and goes about his day.
Camera guy proceeds to cry like a toddler rather than help out when he was the biggest instigator shame on these kids and their parents
Camera boi weak weak weak .
Ofc “CONTENT FIRST” for Snapchat or TikTok 😂, in his head “oh shit this going viral”
I feel like he belongs in prison more than the defendant. if the defendant hadn't lied to the police I think there's no way that jurycould have convicted him. I feel bad for him. lying to the police was f**king stupid but he doesn't deserve to go to prison for defending himself. always keep your mouth shut. there's no situation that can't be made worse by calling or talking to the police
bobbing4snapples Wether miu blatantly lied or not he was the AGGRESSOR and he would have ABSOLUTELY been sent to prison for the MURDER and VIOLENT ASSAULT(S) he committed 🤡
@@eriv4735he was the aggressor??? 🤡
Typical case of bullies playing victims after realized they abused with the wrong person.
exactly 10 drunk teenagers surrounding a drunk older man who is being verbally and physically attacked
Dude the old man approached them and attacked them. They repeatedly told him to go away and he keeps approaching and following them and attacking them. The full video is literally in UA-cam. No excuse to be this dense
@@DumbAsh00the first “attack” we have irrefutable proof of is them pushing him though, no? That’s what I saw…
Alcohol
@@mikecarol3485 did they surround him? Or did the boomer approach them, go into the center of the group, refuse to walk away, punch a girl, and then start stabbing people after he got pushed down and slapped. And instead of walking away when he has the chance (which he had several opportunities) he kept coming back to stab more. He is a piece of garbage and that is why he was found guilty
"You wouldn't expect someone to have a knife" You're right! This is America, I'd expect them to have a gun.
Right on!
That's what I was thinking, in fact they should be thanking their lucky stars he didn't.
I bet the survivors never get in anyone's face putting their hands on anyone ever again trying to hold them down in the water and punching them!
You kind of would expect people doing outdoor activities to have a knife though I mean it's an incredible tool and anyone who spends time in the woods or on the water knows
@@ticket2spaceyeah, I’m definitely shocked so many people wouldn’t expect most of the dudes out there to have knives.
All the victims sat on the stand and cried about how they were so scared. The video doesn't show that. They were laughing and taunting Nic. The only time you see them fearful is when they see blood.
And they completely changed stories multiple times. I'll never live in a non stand your ground state.
No shit lol. If course they got scared when someone gets stabbed
@@26michaeluk Don’t forget the guy with the knife changed his story multiple times as well… he went from “I saw the fight, I didn’t know anyone got stabbed”, to “I took the knife from one of the kids”, to yeah that was my knife but this was in self defense”… you can’t call the kids liars without calling him a liar as well.
Really??? seeing someone stabbing multiple random people is a scary situation lmao
But atleast according the Mr."i did it in self defense" he wasn't there 😂
you think he was justified for stabbing a teenage girl who was WALKING AWAY FROM HIM!? what is wrong with you!?!?
Miu is originally from Romania. When he was a child, police were executing civilians for political reasons. I’m not surprised that he doesn’t navigate police interactions well. The average American cannot seem to comprehend that.
Agree
Yeah. Romania has a rough history as do most ex Soviet countries. Life and death are very real there. Not abstract.
Ok but... Is this relevant to anything about the case or are you just sharing fun facts from the internet?
@@robertpatter5509 I'm Russian and while I do agree that ex Soviet countries have a rough history, police in general is far far less intimidating in the ex-USSR space than in the US, and police brutality is uncommon (if we exclude edge cases of political persecution, which I don't think even happens in Romania). Regardless, this does not excuse his actions. While the kids' behavior was terrible, I fail to see how his life was so in danger that it required him stabbing people with a knife.
Here in America, the Police are still executing people.
Bruce should have represented Mr. Mui. I am fully convinced that the video was being taken because the teens thought it was hilarious as hell. Had Nic not defended himself and this video would have been uploaded to UA-cam before the teens got off the river. Clearly the guy filming was filming for entertainment purposes. It was amusing until it turned against them. The state allowed this bunch of disrespectful, drunk underage teens walk away with zero accountability for their role in this whole incident.
*Note: I am not saying the injuries and death were without punishment, but this whole incident was preventable.
If the teens just kept rolling down the river regardless of whether Nic was there or not. Instead, they saw an opportunity to be funny at another person's expense.
Absolutely, you know they had this planned to go start trouble with some random person and then not only that but accuse him of horrendous things before surrounding him confusing and then assaulting him. Dude had so many things running through his mind
I watched the trial his lawyer did an awesome job and picked the teens apart. Even his closing statements were so logical. I think the verdict came down to a small town mentality. Christina Randall said they had a memorial for Isaac and over 500 people showed up and the town was small.
This guy was CLEARLY the aggressor, committed MURDER, and SEVERAL counts of ASSAULT..he was going to prison no matter who defended him 🤦♂
HaphRound He had the opportunity to leave the kids alone but decided to go get a knife and return and initiated contact with them by grabbing one of them out of his their raft..you clearly didn’t watch the trial 🤦♂
MareMarMarie The verdict came down to the FACTS and the FACT is Miu was CLEARLY the aggressor 🤡
People are so used to disrespecting other people on the internet these days that they've forgotten about reality. Treat people how you'd like to be treated.
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Yeah this stuff never happened before the internet, everyone just skipped around holding hands
@@danielnorth9902 not at all. These types of incidents used to happen before social media but kids these days are living in a different world. The fact the cameraman started saying this isn't real proves that. Society is on a decline because people these days are not held accountable for how they speak on the internet and by the time they face reality, it's too late. Not saying this was the case but it's highly likely. Add booze and weed to that and you have a cocktail for chaos. The real problem stems from a lack of guidance from the kids' parents. Old school men got no time for that shit.
@@lionel170 exactly the problem comes from a lack of guidance not whatever problem you have with message boards, the internet is allot bigger than people arguing on websites like Twitter, to contribute this much nonsense to “the internet” is just a cop out at best, grow up
@@danielnorth9902 I don't have a problem with message boards or social media. It's the accountability that's lacking. Those kids learned the hard way unfortunately.
Never ever talk to a cop without a lawyer.
Solid advice. Cops will twist your words around and straight up lie.
Yep stop self snitchin.
This was the worst case of self-snitching I have ever seen
You know, unless you’re guilty of murder or something. Unless we’re looking out for them too
Truth
Self defense, disrespectful youth is becoming a real problem. Online as well
That’s an understatement. Societal norms and morals are gone. It’ll only get worse from here
Not self defense. Those little shits might have had it coming, but given what I saw in the video, that was not self defense.
@@Romanus-Roman's and greeks were saying the same thing 4000 years ago. Every generation gets old and Says the next generation is awful and will ruin civilization
It's been this way for thousands of years. We simply can't ever experience it all first hand.
We like to say the world is going downhill, but it's really not. Do you think the ancient Romans had a culture full of tolerance and respect? Do you have any idea the kind of dehumanization and violence minorities face around the world, today and throughout history?
Everything we do is bigger now, yes, but we are no different than the people of the past at our core.
Were the same pople, only we have bigger and more powerful tots now.
The fact that this concerns you so much really says something about the culture you live in. This level of disrespect and violence is quite literally child's play in many places around the world.
Don't take the safety and peace you have for granted. You have no idea the things people have to face daily.
No. Miu walked up to them. Stopped them. Harassed them and wouldn’t leave. He didn’t even say “get back I have a knife” nothing. Just started stabbing people like a 115lb woman lol he was in the wrong.
Bruce, i truly loved to hear that you and your son do this together to do something together everyday. What a badass loving father.
Love the videos and love hearing your take on things.
I wonder how his daughter feels, never being gushed over and complimented, like he does with his son constantly. If I were his daughter, I would think I was absolutely worthless.
@@HollyMacNaughton maybe she wants to be private? And he's respectful of that. Not a lot of people want to be all over the internet and want to live private lives, especially with having a loved one in the public.
Am I the only person who felt disturbed watching those "kids" knock Miu off his feet, push his head in the water more than once, & finally put their hands on his neck? And nobody came to help him? What kind of society have we created?
YES BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN HAS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED - THEY PUSHED HIM DOWN AFTER AFTER AFTER HE PUNCHED A FEMALE!!!!
DID THAT NOT DISTURB YOU OR ARE YOU THE TYPE THAT HITS FEMALES??????????????
One that tolerates white kids doing that. Dude looks ethnic? Obviously not American. He's a immigrant... If he is white he's eastern European and other Europeans don't really consider them white....
By the time there's hands on Miu's neck, he's already stabbed at least two people. Watch the uncensored video. He gets pushed into the water initially, slapped once by a kid, and then pushed from behind by yellow trunks. As yellow trunks tries pushing him again, he stabs him in the stomach. Everything after that, he's the armed aggressor. Miu seems to cut the girl immediately after he's up without her coming at him. Then someone pushes Miu by the neck, can't tell if he stabs that person or not. I'd say yellow trunks had it coming since he did initially push Miu toward the water as he was trying to get up. Doesn't seem like anything except that was justified to me.
One where you shouldn’t ran at a group of kids and start being physical with them while armed with a deadly weapon.
They kept attacking him so it's all self defense in my book. They all started a fucking mob for no reason. He had no obligation to even say he was looking for his phone they just decided he was weird and the guy with the phone literally caused everyone to freak out and attack him. Idc it's messed up to just put blame only on one person. They guy with the phone was laughing all the way through the video he loved it
Hi Bruce! We went to law school together. I was WMCL class of '97. I just found your UA-cam channel. Love your content. Keep up the great work! So good to see another Mitchell classmate on UA-cam!
Proof?
@@snorky222222 he's not trying to get clout, relax
Wish I was a Bruce Rivers classmate
@@snorky222222It’s a comment. Is he supposed to upload his degree? Ridiculous.
@@GabrielTheMagolorMainlmao right
The lesson here: don't do drugs or drink to get drunk. You're already stupid enough.
That's not the lesson , Mormon
Yeah and the evidence is right here in the comment section.
Heard that 😂
Yes thank you. More people need to read this
@@azbacnikorange found the drunk
Watched the Squeeze Benz react, and then watched this one and automatically subscribed when you said "Grandma was on the river selling meth" haha
Imagine filming yourself while your friends are bleeding out. These kids are disgusting.
everyone has a suture kit with them on a river
Yep
Ya I noticed that when they were all ganging up on the guy they were all running their mouths but when the shit hit the fan they stood there and didn’t even help their own friends.
Yep the kids are the problem not the psycho who stabbed them
@@Boyso5407The Asian guy did at least . He seems the only one who has learned his lesson .
I work as a swift water rescue technician. Even when I’m not working I have a knife on the river.
Well he peft and came back to the group with a knife lmao
Nobody should ever have to justify why they carry a knife.
@@anopoabednego6173 nope but they need to justify it when the stab 5 ppl killing 1 almost a 2nd and seriously injuring the others.
A lot of people carry a knife on the Apple River to cut the rope at the end otherwise you need to try and carry while attached up a long hill onto a bus then have to get those attached tubes onto to old buses. It’s easier to cut and carry so the knife’s not weird but who stabs 5 kids!
I’m a “leftist” and couldn’t imagine telling someone not to have some thing to protect themselves with on them at all times. Or having to justify that.
WHAT?? The jury definitely got it wrong here. He gets shoved to the ground by a crowd of drunk teens, gets hit in the face, and stabs people in that crowd, and that's not self defense? As far as an inaccurate statement to police, everyone gave inaccurate accounts, so to me, that would cancel out. From the video alone, it's clear-cut self defense.
At 10:37, you can actually see him make the first jab as he's getting up from being pushed down, and 2 more jabs with the knife at the 10:56 mark of this video.
He 100% should not have made ANY statements to the police. His lies made him looks very guilty
Dude sliced through the diaphragm of a girl who was standing still doing nothing after being pushed to the ground after approaching a group of teens and fumbling around their tubes without saying anything about what he was doing, once he pulled the knife after being pushed to the ground and maybe taking a gentle slap he proceeded to stab 5 people, plunging his knife into the fucking heart of one, killing him instantly. Then, he ditched the weapon, and tried to get away with it, he IS GUILTY.
Every teen lied on the stand.
His Romanian background affected the way he speaks & reacts, but true, he absolutely should have remained silent & pulled a Ruby Franke!
@@Connordrs1123 how can anyone possibly stab five people? Because after the first stabbing the other four would run away… Unless they were surrounding him to attack him and then they would be within stabbing distance. So thanks for your shitty little story clarifying he was stabbing in self-defence. Clown. Don’t become a lawyer coz we will tear you a new one.
@@Connordrs1123 You're out of your mind.
They are ALL at fault here. And absolutely no winners.
The worst side of human nature being played out here.
Bullying , taunting , violence, lying , cowardice.
So many lives ruined forever
Oh there’s worse out there you ever heard of Brazil ?
If you watch the 1st aired video, this whole thing started with a young man named Juwan shouting " He's a Raper!" Twice, and then the other boys all calling him a Pedophile and saying he was " looking for little girls". Juwan then films, and narrates the whole scene as it escalates, while never leaving his tube. It will take an older person being killed by drowning, or worse before this mob mentality these kids have, will stop, if ever.
Several football players pulled this crap in an A& W restaurant 5 years ago to my then 90 year old MIL. When I stepped in front of her, one of the boys Mothers had the audacity to jump up and start screaming at ME.
I calmly told her to back the f up , or I was calling the Police for battery on an elderly person. She walked away, then. I CAN say, that we raised 6 kids without dui's, without the Police involved, by allowing them natural consequences when they were very young. They were also taught compassion for others( especially elderly people) and my now grown 13 Grandkids were taught the same.
Parents need to start spending time with their kids, and teaching g basic morals, values, and manners. This entire scene would never er have gone shit sideways if these young adults weren't drunk off their assessment, and just plain mean. They FA, and FO that not everyone will put up with being bullied, and a victim. I don't think he should have gone as far as he did when defending himself , but who knows what anyone of us might do when 13 people are shoving us down into water repeatedly, and all shoving & screaming at a person.
@@Vater1 No I never heard of Brazil. Where is that ???
Is it a place in China ? Or maybe Africa ? Or maybe England?
Or maybe somewhere else ?
You sound really smart , so you should know.
@@reneet5858 I don't want to come off as rude but it is absolutely unfair to try and place all the blame for what happened on these kids. Everyone can see they're being asses and if they weren't nothing might've happened that day (Probably). However, we have to look at what happens next as being truly the problem. "Kids being kids" as Miu describes it to the police when he lies about his involvement. Kids being kids doesn't warrant the brutal stabbing of 4 and the killing of 1. I can empathise that it is scary when a whole groups starts yelling and shouting, but if you have a deadly weapon on you and shits going a little bit south you remove yourself asap. We don't really see in the video who threw the first punch but judging by how quick Miu was to stabbing I wouldn't be shocked if it was him. These kids were aggressive and definitely frightening but not life threatening by any means. It's the same kind of scary as when you see some teens in front of a store or something. You don't want anything bad to happen but youre not gonna blow their brains out at the first sign of interaction. I wish people would stop spreading the narrative that this was some little feeble old man who really wasn't up to much. This was a killer who threw away the murder weapon, tried to disguise himself from being identified to the crime and lied to police in order to try and be free. Without the video evidence he would probably be free to this day and it is disgusting that people will downplay this for what it really was.
Yep, so many of the worst qualities of human nature on display here in one form or another. Maybe not the full Fogo de Chao of bad human behavior like in Brazil, but definitely a smorgasbord ;)
💯 Another 💯 brilliant 💯 video 💯 thanks 💯 Bruce 💯
oh man, I've been waiting for Bruce to do this one.
That's why you don't F around with people that you don't know, you have no idea what they're capable of.
this does not apply to law and what's legal. But I would agree with you in a common sense way.
He's from an Eastern block country, judging by name and accent. Possibly a lower trust society where survival sometimes requires violence. He pulled that knife after plunging it for max damage.
Having said that....I think this was a bad charge.
But I do think the overkill should be addressed... certainly not a murder charge.
Mutual combat, maybe?
Thats why told him to leave..he didnt..nothing else could do he ran over to them
when my husband starts to get mad at another driver THAT ^^^ is exactly what I remind him of.
@@gracejones2831Yea. My boyfriends father too. It’s scary.
The guy really didn't do himself any favors by going to toss the weapon after the fact, putting on clothes to make himself less recognizable, tried to avoid police, pretending that he did not know what went on during the altercation, and lying to police like when he said he took the knife he used from one of the teens. All those things scream someone who knew they did something wrong.
So foolish of him. I assume he just has no faith in the justice system. But he really made his case so much worse with the follow up choices.
He Was Very Scared im Sure...
@@ryancasey919he fail him self not the system like you like to claim.
Yes the kids where in the wrong for touching/ pushing him but the way how he pulled his knife and goes of like a ninja stabbing and killing in just a couple of seconds. Is not normal.
This has noting to do with stand your ground. And hiss best friend was more concerned about his shoes then his friend who he claims never see weird behavior
@@FrasssIetss
Oh good Lord...
Can ANY of you tell the event that happened without embellishing facts or totally making stuff up?
It all happens under 25 seconds because he DIDN'T go on some "ninja stabbing" spree!!
@@ryancasey919
I agree. But his lies and choices were so bizarre I do believe it stemmed from fear and shock. Not malice.
What people don't understand is the self defense already happened before everything he did after.
The defense won until the judge threw that piss poor prosecutor a lifeline and dropped anchor on Nic Miu.
It's horrible all around. There are no winners in self defense, but those youths will never be held accountable and likely will give victim impact statements. I swear I'll throw up if that happens.
It's disgusting and this case set dangerous precedent for self defense moving forward as our country continues to crumble into chaos!!!
New favorite channel! Finally, someone with a logical pov that i agree with
It’s almost like yall don’t hear them telling him to leave them alone after he just started flipping over there shit.
Crazy how quick laughing, making fun of and picking on someone you think you can gang up on can change to crying and screaming in seconds…
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Agreed
The same thing that can make you laugh is the same thing that can make you cry.
They make a big deal about a knife and they lucky he wasn't carrying which is also legal..
They FAAFO real quick!
They asked for it and it was given unto them, Old Testament style.
Bruce, you have the only channel where I don't skip the sponsorship because you're grandma stories are great
I had a grandma in my basement too! Great stories
At the point at which you spotted the knife, I'm pretty sure at least two people had already been stabbed. The guy in yellow is already on the ground grabbing his stomach, surrounded by blood, and a girl is grabbing the side of her stomach.
He should have sent them an email to warn them, but he had no phone because they stole it, so yeah...
He stabbed bro in the yellow after he got push down and punched the first time. He stabs dude in the yellow as dude in the yellow was LITERALLY pushing him down again😂😂😂.
Great content! You remind me of Better Call Saul 😂
The only thing worse than talking to the police is lying to them.
Having your smart-ass daughter tell one she was rooting for Rambo the whole time is a close third. So I've heard.
He lied through everything 😂
He did what he had to do there is something wrong with anyone who says different
Yeah he's been an idiot. If he hadn't lied to the police I think they would've accepted the self-defense theory.
@@phillophotographer7366 and the kids lied, too.
You should never go in a river without a knife. You can get caught on old fishing line and hooks, ropes, roots, and all kinds of other stuff
Or a drunken mob can attack you
Don't go anywhere without a knife
And a gun.
Gonna use your pocket knife to cut a root? Now you're just reaching for excuses
A knife isn't cutting a fuckin root gtfoh
Look at the whole court case before coming to conclusions.
At 10:55 when the guy says you hit a woman, you can see the girl in the back is all ready bleeding, he has the knife out later too but he’s already used it when Bruce is talking about him just having it out
Thank You, Exactly! Is Nobody else seeing this & realizing. He stabbed that girl 1st(they thought he just hit her but she is screaming in background the whole time), then they punch him & then he stabs someone & double stabs another guy after.
By the time this video says he has the knife...the girl is already Screaming & Stabbed, there is blood in the water. Then he stabs more people but she was 1st & some of the boys didn't even realize yet.
Yes -if you slow down the video you see look up, horrified with blood on her side.
This attack, although certainly horrible and unproportional to the circumstances, does not excuse their disgusting behavior. They ALL went along with unprovoked, bullying, depraved degrading actions. Not one of them decided to stand up for what was right. Whoever raised them should be ashamed. ALSO, I wouldn't call them "kids" ... they are old enough to know better. Miu's violent reaction most definitely requires some punishment, but he was 100% provoked by their ugliness...imo
I mean yeah stabbing kids is bad BUT GET A LOAD OF HOW IMPOLITE THEY WERE GAWSH
As long as we're calling the ex-President's adult offspring "kids" these folks under 30 are "kids"
And by cornering him, hitting him, shoving him under the water, and all around tormenting the guy! I’m shocked! You can literally SEE him stumble when he fell toward the tubes!
I completely agree. They got violent with him - who knows what would’ve happened if he didn’t have that knife. They very well could have killed him, especially pushing him down in the water like that. It was what, 13 on 1? FFS, the guy had a right to defend himself. Seems he went too far but that’s part of the point. 1) Don’t fuck with strangers and 2) treat people how you would like to be treated. Those kids are fuckin brats. You’re right - their parents should be utterly ashamed and embarrassed.
I totally agree.
YOU'VE GOT 10 SECONDS ! 😳
Went from laughing and talking trash to screaming and crying, voice cracking like a middle schooler, real quick. They fucked around and found out.
They were seeing their friends disemboweled and dying before their eyes. “Voice cracking like a middle schooler” is a little callous.
@AlisonWarren That's called reality. When you attack people, they tend to defend themselves.
Aka they found out. Sucks to suck. Don't attack people. Absolute miscarriage of justice that the man who defended himself was convicted.
@@EnderPearlRs But he went ballistic and stabbed the girl Ariel, a 120 LBS unarmed unaggressive bystander. He was justified stabbing the boys that attacked him, but that's it ... just randomly stabbing everyone in sight is ridiculous ... that's not how these things work
@@EnderPearlRshe walked away and then walked back into the group with a knife… of course he was convicted. This was an easy case.
Lol FAFO is about as overused as "literally" in the intraweb😂 The guy is about to FAFO when he spends the rest of his life in prison.
I feel so bad for this man. A total exemplary life is destroyed by bullies. How this jury came to this conclusion i do not understand.
Mr. Miu charged at the the group of kids floating in tied together rafts and put hands on their rafts reaching over the kids legs saying nothing so the kids all jumped off the rafts and started heckling him and questioning what he was doing. Two older young adults from another group came over and confronted the man and tried to get him to leave but he stayed put still saying nothing he then slapped/assaulted one of the young women who was in his face so one of the boys pushed him in the water and he also got slapped. He then stood up and stabbed 5 or 6 of the kids with a knife killing one of them and eviscerating another who survived. In the mayhem. Mr. Miu finally left the scene, discarded his knife, disguised himself w/hat, sunglasses, and clothes and when confronted (by police at the scene down the river - and later at the police station after he was identified) LIED about what happened acting like he was not there.
Exactly, what was this guy thinking?
@@ingrid_inthesky The lawyer in this video missed a detail. He drew the knife earlier than he assumed. At 9:29 in this video, he is already reaching in his pocket and working the knife out. He keeps his arm stiff, concealing his intent.
You asked what he was thinking. At 9:33 he turns to the camera smiling. In that moment, he was thinking: "Thank God! I finally get to use my knife in self-defence."
Watch that smile again. He's smiling as he's quietly drawing a knife out of his pocket.
At 9:38 he's already holding the knife as he speaks to the orange-haired girl. And it's only at 9:45 he is knocked into the water.
They were yelling at him to leave. He didn't like their tone, so he decided to arm himself, and stay.
Ohh now you think judges all the jury are dumb
@@abovethevlog9024yes
If you go into a river and you don't have a knife on you then you're asking for trouble... There are literally MILES and MILES of fishing lines caught on rocks and logs under water that people fishing just cut the lines when the hooks get tangled... Those lines can EASILY tangle you up and make you drown... And if you think "its just string bro... I'll just snap the string." Then you have NO idea how strong fishing line is.
That is appalling! Don't they care what it does to the wildlife?
Seriously. As a kid whenever my family went to the river or lake my parents both had pocket knives in case anyone got snagged on something. It’s pretty basic water safety.
I never thought of that and am going, this weekend, camping and fishing on the Kern River. Thanks for the heads up!!
Our society is made up of basically whimps....men who think like females!
It's been a long while, good reminder, thank you!
The person filming should be held accountable too.
Juwahn Cockfield.
Why???
@@2wheels42 Cuz the dumb 🥷🏾er started the whole thing
@@2wheels42are you that dumb to see why
@@2wheels42the stupid 🥷🏾er started the whole thing
Bruce I love you beacuse you are SO REAL❤👏 Michael, youre all our CONTENT GENIUS❤
Hear me out!
If someone comes into my personal space and we both speak the same language, and a full grown ass man is not speaking just continuing to enter my space, I would immediately leave from potential threat. Unfortunately this group decided to stand their ground. But why did he feel entitled to not owe an explanation to entering another's space and just stare..idk
He was looking for a phone, not a little girl. That was explained. Why would you push him and knock him around
i bet he did explain before video. he was explaining himself to the lady when the camera man made a false claim that he said he was looking for a little girl, which caused the mob to push his head underwater.
Uh, no, he was looking for his phone and they were surrounding and assaulting him. They could have just continued on their way.
Did you not watch the case?
Let's look st from the other side:
(Note: I may not have the story completely straight)
So, you're a grown man who lost your phone in the river and you need to retrieve it. You go to the spot to search for your phone and you see there's a group there. For whatever reason, perhaps you were flustered or aggravated because you lost your phone, you don't clearly communicate to these strangers your intentions. Why should you though, they're strangers?
So you go to the place to look for your phone and get a little close to some of the people and they start focusing their attention on you. They guy was clearly feeling very awkward and probably a bit confused, but now we have a group of people focusing all their attention onto this man, a man who already felt out of place.
So you're trying to think about where to find your phone, meanwhile, these teenagers are being extremely obnoxious and are beginng to surround and humiliate you. Keep in mind, you really haven't said anything at this point. They start screaming crazy stuff at you, mocking you, getting in your face, and finally they push you and begin to assault you.
Gang assaults are not to be taken lightly. A 2v1 could easily result in serious injury, now imagine you're on the ground surrounded by 10+ people who are tellong at and assaulting you for no real reason. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to feel threatened and in danger at that point.
Even after the man pulls the knife and tries to stand up they continue to assault him. When a man just let's you assault him, you best not push him far. At no point did they stop to consider why they were attacking they guy, nor the potentially serious damage they could inflict upon him. They were simply beating a man that was down because they could.
If he punched the girl, then it's not the same, of course. This is simply the story as I saw and understood it.
“Hey sir, what are you doing?”
“Looking for my friend’s phone, he dropped it in the water. Have you boys seen one?”
“Sorry, no… but we will keep an eye out.”
“Ok, thank you.”
“No problem, sir.”
*a few moments later*
“Hello again, I saw you guys holding a phone up in the air. Did you just find that in the water? Thought you might be trying to get my attention.”
“Sorry, no. This is my phone. But we will head over to your group if we do find it.”
“My bad! Thanks boys, enjoy your afternoon.”
“No problem sir, you do the same.”
That’s really all I got to say about this mess…
Exactly he still had a chance to walk away
Exactly... words, mutual respect, avoid violence. Easy.
This is the way but sadly alcohol was involved
Exactly
Yeah I've done a 180 on this. I was Team Nick until I saw the first video.
These girls caused this, the Madison one holding a phone right in his face begging for a smack. I believe she was allowed to submit her evidence by a statement? This 'Riley' one doesn't remember their provocation. IDK... they're victims!! Thing is he stabbed all the quiet ones didn't he... the real instigators escaped harm?
Wonder if she talks to her 'friends' now?
Young kids being totally disrespectful to their elders, leave people alone is the lesson here!
I mean that goes both ways the kids were being ignorant but then the grown adult chose to act exactly the same way which is what then led to the escalation. Any rational adult would have just carried on with what they were doing not tried to one up the immaturity by touching the teens and their tubes splashing water at them. You expect drunk teens to act immaturely as they are still immature you expect more adult behavior out of a 52 year old man....
You'd expect a 52 year old man to know well enough to leave people alone as you say but he chose not to leave the kids alone and ended up taking a life and harming 4 other people atleast 2 of which never did anything to him.
But yea respect your elders even when they don't know how to act their age I guess?
@@tylergartner4069who are you? Their sister-wife? Bunch of rednecks who should’ve been put in their place a long time ago.
It’s been bad ever since they wouldn’t leave Britney alone
Considering HE started ALL of this, it would be the ADULT who needed the “lesson” 🤡
@@eriv4735 No, he did not start it. Watch the tape, clown. He was minding his own business looking for his friend's phone. Quite frankly, if his dumbass friend didn't lose his phone none of this would've happened.
1 thing of note. 0 emotion from miu. Not during the incident, not after, never.
I read he was from Romania. That explains a lot to me.
I, personally, did not agree with that jury. It was all absolutely a tragic mess.
The jury failed us all.
Most reasonable people who aren't blind disagree w/ the idiot jury. I'm sure even some of the blind people too
Definitely
Hopefully the jury gets their lives ans their kids' lives messed up by one of those bratty teens in the future. I hope all those scoundrels that bullied that man, end up paying for their mistakes terribly for the rest of their shitty lives
The fact that he lied to the police and pretended not know what happen shows he knew he did something wrong. He would have been better off to say nothing or say hey I feared for my life and I defended myself. The other thing is he never said a word to those kids like "I'm looking for a cell phone." The other thing is you can't use deadly force if you can get away. He didn't try. If he tried to leave and the kids prevented him from leaving, it would have been justified. The other thing is he didn't have to stab that girl. She was no threat to him he's a grown man. Sad all around. Someone lost a child and he lost his freedom.
As a mother I would be so embarrassed of my child behaviour if any of the boys or women were mine!! The women?!!? I know that they were drunk…Why on earth were they screaming, grabbing & pushing at a complete stranger?!!? It was a mob attack! 😳🤬
So if it was your teenage boy, you'd be okay with some older creeper running up and grabbing their legs, and wondering around looking all weird and not leaving them alone? You wouldn't watch an adult to come over and try to get the creeper to leave?
@@AFloridaSonYou do know they interacted before the video started, right? He told them he was looking for a phone. After he walked away, they showed him (taunted) a phone in a waterproof bag that he thought could have been his friends phone. That is when the video starts. He says he slipped on a rock and fell into them. I don't know what happened for sure. There is testimony from teens admitting to showing him a phone. The teens were punks. That's when they started yelling that he was looking for little girls and that he was a rapist. As you know, it escalates from there.
The point of the original comment is embarrassment for the parents if their kids were on video behaving like this. While I’m pleased with the verdict, if my late-teen brothers were out there on video for the whole world to see acting like THIS?!! I think it’s easy to forget that, while it might seemingly be a rare occurrence nowadays, there are kids out there who are actually raised to NOT engage in such behavior. EVERYONE was a bad actor here, they’ve admitted it and will live with this nightmare forever.
@@AFloridaSonThey knew he was looking for a phone and then dropped his snorkels and googles so of course he wasn't just going to walk away.
@@mrsjprichI don't know what video you watched but at the beginning I saw him walking away and that kid yelling rapist at which point he ran back to the kids and started messing with their tunes. I don't condone the behavior from those drunk kids but he went over there to begin with, left and came back, and was the first to throw a punch. Regardless, at no point did those kids deserve what happened to them. Did he tell the cops my God these kids were all over me I couldn't get away? No, he told them he knew nothing about what happened.
When you see that eforms logo pop up you better be ready for the most egregious grandma story you re about to hear
You need to look closer. He pulls the knife out just before he gets pushed down. You can also see him feeling around for it for a few frames before he pulls it from his pocket.
But then the guy on orange shorts runs right into the knife when he tries to knock miu down a second time
@@campfirestories6681 they were drunk oblivious kids, they were probably not looking for a knife in this guys hands. If you watch their reactions, it takes a while for them to notice.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.. “this isn’t real!” Says it all.. stupid kids completely detached from reality and the fact their actions have consequences.
Wtf are you talking about you nut lmao - he created the situation and was the one acting creepy. had he not explained himself there wouldn't have been a problem.
Amen
Only an innocent man who defended himself is now in prison
The victim is now the guilty! Our social values are upside-down. And none of those that assaulted Mui will be held accountable. We live in a woman's world!
So crazy, and none of them are doing any time for assault or perjury. Aboslutely insane. You only go to jail if you win the fight. If you lose you get to play victim.
The fact that they say “Is this real!?” Only shows how out of touch with reality these kids are. They seriously thought that what they did would not have any consequences. Parents please teach your kids the lesson of mess around and find out before someone else teaches them for you.
Yea, they're so used to GTA and RESPAWNING they didn't take into consideration that the old man dont play those games......
Exactly. Like my friend says “People are so living online that they have forgotten what it is to be punched on the face”.
Consequences? Yeah. This guy is going way to prison for the rest of his life probably. Six guilty verdicts.
Miu guilty and in jail for the rest of his life going "is this real" shows how out of touch these boomers are
@@goodcitizen3027the 'consequences' he was talking about was one dead kid, another who had their guts spilled out, and the rest traumatized, but y'all are looking at this as a victory since the guilty verdict... like the dead kid is meaningless
Those people are the worst LIARS ever!! Total self defense!!
🤡
10:56 looks like the first stab. He stands up with the knife, his eyes straight forward, thrusts his right arm forward twice, and gets pushed into somebody behind to the left of him.
At 10:54 the girl is already bleeding
I really respect you for saying out loud that once alcohol is involved it often ends up badly but with weed nearly never !
Same he’s pretty chill about weed it’s refreshing : )
Agreed ❤ 100%
Agreed! I wish society would stop normalizing and glorifying alcohol and alcoholism. It does contribute to so many lives lost and ruined
Maybe you don’t know the dangers of Mary Jane. My uncle told me all about it, and he would know. Because he is an alcoholic.
To those that say weed has never killed anyone. One time when it was still illegal, an airplane was dropping bales of it from the air to the ground. Two people were struck by the bales killing both of them.
Those kids were all a-holes. They made a game of harassing and attacking him.
and he didnt acted on selfdefence now he rots in jail
He literally punched one of the girls first and admitted in court
Not a taunting expert. But to me, it sounded like they twisted his words. "He is looking for then "insert joke". .. Its an old joke.. You know exactly what is going on, but your twist it up to embarrass him.
He was the adult though. You said it yourself, they were kids. He should have talked to them like a man.
@@lustrazor44no he didn’t
I want to propose a new law. If you are going to review and watch a video, YOU NOT PAUSE EVERY TWO SECONDS. YOU MAY ONLY OAUSE ONCE. It took 13:42 to get through a 3 minute video. Let it play all the way at least once.
Im a dad ... I would be going nuts if my daughter called me and say "daddy I've been stabbed and he's stabbing other people"
@beenbenson
Because you are a mature and sane individual, unlike these frightening stabby folks.
Making someone scared for their life, then acting shocked that they went into survival mode is just silly af
Do you also punch women when you get scared? Should probably see a professional about that
But he made the kids scared first by creepily and silently approaching them and encroaching on their space.
@BronzeBellaBria Public property. If the young adults were uncomfortable they should have left the area, not incite. I'm shocked you think its okay to walk up to someone minding their own business, film screaming atrocious insults into their face, and gang up on them.
@@TimeSage434 Hell yeah. What do you call a woman with 2 black eyes? A bad listener
@@BronzeBellaBriaexactly 😊
This whole thing is too sad. I raised five children. If they ever treated anyone like this I would be horrified. I hope they didn’t. These kids acted atrocious. the taunting makes my blood boil. Sickening. And then Isaac died. I personally wouldn’t have voted for 1st degree.
There are so many freaking sheep anymore. That's another thing that is atrocious.
So why didn't the grown adult man walk away? Kids told him to leave, he could have ended the situation! He wanted trouble! 😮
That was so unfair , that man is gonna die in prison because of those loud mouth trouble makers and that's what they are , they could of helped him look for the phone , but they were looking for a fight and wouldn't shut up ! And I don't believe that he punched that lady , not at all , the only person I saw get punched and pushed around was Nicolae , and it was 13 punks against one man and he gets first degree murder charges , the justice system there is a joke and the jury must of been asleep to pick a guilty verdict, oh that's right it was said that a man on the jury did keep falling asleep , so how's that fair , it's not ! And why is it alright for all of them to lie? He did too but maybe he was scared and didn't want to get into trouble and just said the first thing he could think of , I mean none of this was ok , but first degree murder, that's wrong and I hope there is someone that will get the verdict over turned because he didn't deserve to be found guilty , those punks should of left him alone and they started it all , 13 punks and one man and now his life is ruined because they didn't know how to act like a normal person , they were only looking for a fight and wouldn't stop and then when he had enough they ran like cowards and their laughter turned to cry's and they acted like they didn't do anything and they did , and this just shows you how unfair the justice system is , I hope someone helps him and he gets to go home to his wife and precious little dog 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Taunting is nothing. But when the mob lays you out and pushes/punches you twice or three times into the water where you could drown - well that is serious “self defense” territory.
@@misstigerlilly7353 He was convicted by a jury of his peers. He was the adult in the situation, and could have walked away at any time. He was the only one there with a weapon. He instigated the interaction. If you think he did not commit a viscious murder you seriously need your head examined.
10:45 This film changes from a film about bullies straight into a horror film.
I feel like I’ve been waiting forever for that hat 😆
YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYONE ON THE RIVER INTOXICATED TO GIVE AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF ANYTHING.
Miu was drunk himself so now what
@@ThatsCrazyBro3752idiot teenagers not figuratively, literally are on camera doing everything they're lieing about. Now what?
@ThatsCrazyBro3752 The inaccuracy of his statements are to be expected. So now what?
If you are guilty you need a lawyer; if you are inncoent you REALLY need a lawyer. Do not speak to police in an interrogation room without a lawyer. Ask for a lawyer immediately if you are arrested. Don't answer any questions; stay silent. Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you in a court of law. 🤐⚖️
Amen!
Most will bow down to the Bar's wishes over the clients perhaps?
If they wish to continue in their chosen career.
This is the best free advice you'll ever get right here
How this guy was found guilty and sentenced is absolutely disgusting
I sincerely think that he talked himself into a guilty verdict by lying to the cops. never ever talk to the cops
Guilty doesn't mean you did a crime just means a group of random people of questionable intelligence came together and believed you did a crime.
So another innocent man goes to jail…well done the 12 people who are too stupid to get out jury duty
Because he MURDERED a CHILD and violently stabbed several others 🤦♂
bobbing4snapples He MURDERED his way into a guilty verdict 🤡
This could may have a Freudian component but I feel so reassured when Bruce puts his glasses on 👨🏻🏫
In general... I'm really tired of hearing about people defending themselves and winding up in jail.
I'm tired of people thinking they can jump straight to deadly force and get away with it.
He could’ve ran. He could’ve used his fists. He used a knife. His fault.
@@Ty.88he couldn't run. They were blocking him from escape. The open water you see in the video is towards the deep end of the river and unswimmable without a floatation device.
@@Ty.88 THEY attacked HIM. Have you ever been in a situation like that? Or even in a fight? I promise it's not the time you light up a pipe, and have an intellectual debate as to what the proper course of action is.
@@mvfusionIm tired of people who think pushing, punching and kicking someone doesnt equate deadly force, especially if you slip underwater.
Never voluntarily put yourself in a group with a bunch of rowdy drunks.
I watched several body language expert. They all agree with the man. He was no threat until he started getting hit
I can't stand being around drunk people.
Seems like common sense to
me.
They were all inebriated , after that " voluntary " was mostly out of the question ?
Or be stupid enough to approach them hoping for a fight 😂
Miu initially approaching their water tubes and lifting them looking for his phone without saying a word would disturb the hell out of me too. I think that's why they're upset. It seems like she came over to their tubes without asking permission and started turning them over to look for his phone
i really hate lawyers who think they're on stage.
This incident recalls my own stepmom's complaints about Lake of the Ozarks (different water, similar behavior). Drinking in the sun all day, on the water- which can be tiring in itself- really isn't the greatest thing for any of our brains.
One more time; When day drinking eat every so often and drink plenty of water!! Mardi Gras.❤
So you can get attacked by a group of people and then not be able to defend yourself!!?? This is unreal!!!
If you provoke people, get attacked, then react with excessive force you will go to prison.
I agree that people should defend themselves but unfortunately he messed up when he lied to the cops, that’s what sentenced him in my opinion
@@paulserna7191 lying to cops doesn’t make him innocent or guilty. (My opinion). The video should decide.
@@Velazquez4life-xf7ts point taken but I didn’t see that on the Vid. I never saw him attack the group first. It appears to look like they started with him.
@@brandonbattle9359he ran up on the boys. Never left. Struck mady before anything actually physical had happened. And pulled a knife before that and didn’t say anything or try to take himself out of the situation. Everyone made mistakes but Miu by far the worst
Bruce and Michael, you have one of the best channel's out there, funny, serious, informative BRILLIANT !!!👍👍THANK YOU X
He started to walk away. He should have kept going. 😮
If he gets prison, all those closely involved should get prison as well. They provoked and escalated the event!
Escalated, sure. Provoked? I'm not entirely sure about that. He was acting pretty odd, so it's not unreasonable to be creeped out by him. He also lied about basically everything to the police, so it's not a huge leap to think that someone who stabbed 5 people (killing 1 and disemboweling another), could've been trying to hide the fact that he'd thrown a punch in response to being berated while the camera wasn't on him.
Ideally, he just says what he's doing near them, and none of this ever happens. If he really was looking for his phone, that's probably the one thing a group of drunk college-age kids could empathize with, and they'd probably have helped him find it.
@@RaptureSR You are so unreasonable !!!!!!!!!
He could have thrown a punch but it is reasonable to believe he did not.
The rules when deciding guilt are not maybe, it is to take only what is PROVEN.
everyone talking ab how they keep a knife in the river because their job or because of fishing lines are missing the point. you didn’t bring those as tools of self defense and this guy did. he is saying a REGULAR person on the river not some professional diver or fisherman but a regular civilian on a relaxing day in the river would not bring a knife with them. you can disagree all you like but that is his point and yall pointing out the reasons why you keep a knife are missing the point especially since all of yall are stating you bring the knives for non self defense situations
@@NinjaSamurai-jm9sx The problem you run into is that who started the altercation isn't the only issue with his self-defense claim The number of people he stabbed, the extent of their injuries, and his failing his duty to retreat because there were accounts and other video evidence of him going back into the group also make his claim hard to buy.
If you couple that with accounts that he threw the first punch and his attempt to conceal his involvement from police, there it's not unreasonable to believe that his actions weren't self-defense.
Some component of what he did might have been self-defense, but like Bruce said, you can't claim self-defense if you started the fight. At some point, the force goes beyond self-defense too. At what point do you stop thinking a man stabbing people is self-defense? The 3rd victim? The disemboweled lady? When someone dies? The 5th person? Take all of the factors into account, and what the jury did doesn't seem outlandish.
The best things that can result from this is:
1) more awareness of how alcohol can be dangerous as it impairs judgment.
2) more awareness that there are consequences for bad behavior. Regardless of which side you believe was the more responsible for the altercation, both sides exhibited bad behavior which resulted in severe consequences.
This type of brutal altercation is just sad all around. All their lives are irrevocably affected by alcohol abuse. The kids have to live with knowing that their drunken behavior and inappropriate mobbing of a man for “laughs” resulted in a death and serious injuries to people. The man has to live with knowing that his alcohol impaired judgment resulted in him violently attacking others, resulting in one death and multiple injuries that he caused as well as the sentence he will serve.
There are no winners here. Both sides of this behaved inappropriately and played a part. Every person involved needs to take accountability for their piss poor behavior.
Underrated comment right here
Yeah agreed, everybody was acting like big ol idiots in this situation.
Nobody learned anything from this incident. They all think they're victims.
If Miu was convicted here, then all the young adults present should be charged with inciting violence and assault. Yes, Miu struck out in self defence, yes he was intoxicated, but so were the young adults. They pushed him into the water and punched him while he was down, which could've resulted in his drowning. They need to be charged too
@@sarajuanaict: I think that is the crux of the case? The prosecutors said Mui started it when he rushed over to the tubes? In Wisconsin you can Not use self defense if you start the altercation.
That man had every right to defend himself
As a middle aged guy in today’s world, this was a tough one for me. They’re so brazen and indiscriminate with their harassment and bullying. We didn’t want that kind of attention coming up. ESPECIALLY doing something like drinking underage! If anything comes from this case, I hope it’s an eye opener - you never know who is straddling that line of sanity.
"Use your words" definitely applied here
Verbal harassment/bullying, even though hurtful towards your feelings, doesn't justify stabbing someone. Nor does underage drinking.
These are the same generation of "young uns" who got their anuses reamed by the Taliban! Tough guys indeed picking on an old man. I have faced a crowd of drunk teenagers twice in my life and I was minding my own business when they started coming my way. I was able to get away.
What happened to being stoic and letting it roll off you?
@@TheBigMeme67-I Mean Kalling Someone A Pedophile For Fun Is Not The Business.
Poorly prepared by his lawyer
"this is not my scene"... no shit! lol :-) love ya Bruce!
"We're doing a lot of cases in Wisconsin." I suspect Wisconsin Man is trying to dethrone Florida Man.
LOL, so true ❤😂🎉
They have similar open records laws regarding bodycam video, court proceedings, etc…
Wisconsin is where Florida sends it's unwanted citizens.
he gotta go through ohio man first
lol I was thinking the same thing for a few years now!
This is a great example of why we should all mind our own business and stay out of people's space.
Teach your kids to avoid and respect strangers, not harass them to their breaking point.
🧐 If being called out for creepy behavior escalating to him punching a female and being called out for that is something that's going to push a person over the edge they should be in a mental institution and not three sheets to the wind with a deadly weapon on a rafting trip
I agree about today’s kids unruly behaviours and entitlement! I’m also a middle aged woman.
He should’ve just walked away!!! He should’ve called the cop himself against these teen bullies!
Now, he’s gonna be behind bar for years!!!
@honeybadger3570 in nicks defense he is Albanian and served in the military. He's probably sent numerous people to the afterlife
@@Velazquez4life-xf7tshow is that a defense lmao you need help
and your mentally ill husbands/parents
@Mr.Rivers Is there any substance to the adage "there's no such thing as self defence in a bar fight".
I guess based on the assumption of being under the influence?
Thanks
Look, did the kids behave badly? Yes. But, so did Miu! That man, the adult in the room had every opportunity to walk back to his group and leave that whole situation but he didn’t period. As a result 5 people were stabbed killing one of them, and others with serious injuries. He was so afraid for his life that he sat in the back of that cop car and lied through his teeth! And continued the lies at the police station. Did 2 of the boys have knives as he stated? No! And why did the person who was afraid for his life lie? Because Mr. Miu knew that he was the only person with a knife and used it to stab 5 people. He knew that he didn’t walk away from the situation. He was mad! And when he found out one of the victims died, he knew his life was over as he stated at the station “ my life just went down the tubes” yep that’s what happens when you decide to use a deadly weapon to inflict harm. Not in the leg, not in the arm, the torso! The girl that was screaming at him and he allegedly punched? He didn’t stab her, no, he stabbed the one near her that did nothing. He knew what he did was wrong and he was in serious trouble period!! I know a lot of people think that the verdict was unjust and I just don’t understand that. He could have walked away from a situation that was escalating and go back to his group but he didn’t. Why did he stick around? Only he can answer thst.
The parents of all those ‘kids’ must be so proud of their children’s behaviour. Well done to them for raising such upstanding members of society.
Behavioural learning starts in the home, remember that.
Yeah it’s hard to feel sorry for them
Still don't deserve to get gutted!!
@@Fasteddie-op6sd They could have killed the dude by shoving him over, plus it looked like their aggression was going to keep escalating. The only reason it didn't escalate is because he defended himself with the knife.
@@PiousSlayeron top of that he was just coming off triple bypass surgery being kicked punch and thrown around had the potential to be fatal in his situation. It was really strange he didn’t try to verbally de-escalate the conflict it probably wouldn’t have helped. These kids were very viscous and cruel remember being a teen it was normal to bully other kids but can’t imagine bullying an adult.
@@Fasteddie-op6sd I agree to a point. Isaac was lunging at him which changed the trajectory of the knife as Mui was pushed back. Just a horrible tragic thing to have happened. But it doesn’t change the fact those kids started the altercation.
Mui’s certainly not 100% innocent in his reaction in regards to what he told the cops, but 1st degree murder is insane in this case
I will say this, my boyfriend carries a small steel pocket knife everywhere he goes, when we go tubing he puts in a safe place in a bag somewhere, specifically to cut ropes & I was always raised that someone should have one. My sons carry one everywhere they go.
Pocket knives are handy, especially the Swiss Army knife.
Yes!! Bruce questioning the man carrying a knife was one of the few Dumb moment he's had.
@@JohnDoe-qz1qlnot just that but he's playing dumb. well apparently everyone wants to act like lying to the cops is equal to murder. So dumb. That's a separate charge. It doesn't change ANYTHING about what happened during the self defense.
@@TheCollapse410 I fully agree!
Carrying a knife is fine, stabbing 5 unarmed kids is not
The older man was 100% defending himself, at no time prior to being approached by a mob of 13 drunken and high kids did he become the aggressor. They pushed him down in the river when he could have drown due to the kids unprovoked aggressive behavior. The older man had no idea just how far these kids were going to take their violence. Thirteen young, strong, mostly males, drunk and high can do alot of damage. The older guy was lucky to even have a knife; otherwise he could have loss his life. Moral of the story, you do not get to measure how I should protect myself against a mob who starts the attack and continues the attack against me.
I hope a good attorney helps Mr. Miu appeal this decision, and also I hope they go after these hooligans for mobbing him and causing this horrific outcome.
This was clear self defense and every single witness for the prosecution was caught either lying on the stand or recanting their original testimony.
And if he didn't lie multiple times he probably wouldn't be going to prison 😂
He fully pulled his knife before anyone touched him. Defending himself in a situation he caused. Now if he was minding his own buisness and they surrounded him and threatened him it would be a much different case.
@@jaredswords313 people surround me I'm reaching for my weapon too rather they touch me or not, 13 physically fit young teens against 1 heavy set old man who just had triple bypass surgery, how is that fair? He was minding his business they all started screaming at him and falsely accusing him of being a pedophile and you could clearly see he wasn't trying to acknowledge them, but they all got in his face and you can also clearly see he doesn't pull the knife until after they knocked him in the water and he stood back up, you can see he told them to get back. They didn't, they advanced then people got slashed. Clearly self defense.
@@fluffywuffykins9269everyone one lied, the teens lied to the cops and on the stand. He lied to the cops but told the truth on the stand and even admitted to lying to the cops and explained why.
@Mississippikid292 they have slowed down the video where he fully drew his knife before ever getting pushed in the water. And you portray him as minding his own business except he wasn't and ran up to those kids and touched them.
Crazy how fast they go from screaming and acting big and tough and knocking someone around to crying that this cant be real.
Big and tough?? Lol he was the one acting big and tough. Running up on them. Pulling a knife.
He won't be so big and tough when he gets beat in prison for killing a minor and stabbing girls
Yeah it’s ridiculous how they claim they were scared meanwhile the footage shows every single one of them laughing and making fun of the guy while they push and hit him…. Unbelievable. All this does is justify absurd behavior by young adults that they still keep calling kids. These are COLLEGE students, not kids.
@@yehheapsmadaybutdid…. Did…. You watch any of this case? Did you even watch the video?! Hellen Keller would be more up to date on this case than you
You lack empathy narcissist!
@@Juke582lack of empathy?! This is the law. Its facts. Your feelings and emotions mean literally nothing. Yes a mother and father lost their son but in NO WAY should this have been Nui’s fault. 10 college kids ganged up, pushed down and slapped a 60 year old quadruple bypass patient. You F AROUND and you FIND OUT. Stupid games were played a bunch of stupid prizes were won.
He shouldn't have snitched on himself. All he had to do was say, "I will not give a statement without my attorney present." If the cops want info, let them interview the witnesses!
the man was attacked by 15 people. This sentencing is SICK
I can tell you....I was in a situation much like this, but a bit less.
I was a camp counselor. My cabin had with grade girls. I was 22.
They said they were doing a celebration to finish up our two weekends of camp. They said they had a cake and wanted me to close my eyes while they got the cake out. Instead, they dumped a bucked of water 💦 very my head. Then they tried shoving me into a running cold shower. There were only eight of them and one of me. To push me in the shower, they had to hang up on me like these people did to Mr Miu. Even though nobody had a weapon and there were only eight of them, I still remember the fear that I had. I had no idea what their intention was, they were screaming and yelling and pushing me. I only remember swinging my arms at anything and anyone that I might be able to move out of the way so I could get outside and away from the girls. Now, I'm not a screamer. But, they tell me I was screaming at them to leave me alone. It took only a few minutes to get out the door and away from them. But, I remember terror going through my mind. And, now....almost 40 years later, what I remember is as clear as it was that day. I still scares me to think of what they might have done...and/or wanted to do all in the name of "being funny" when really they were being huge bullies! They were mocking and seeing how much they could humiliate me.
I was terrified .....for a short amount of time. But, out of "fight or flight", it was fight until I could flee. If I'd have had a weapon, even a small one, I probably would have done some damage to one or more of those girls.
In my mind, the kids started everything by taunting and teasing.
I hope they learned their lessons and never do anything like that again. It NEVER ends well, even if it looks like that t does!
@taramcgavan7654not true - they may have loved her and thought she could “handle” it like they got the idea from the boys or something.
When girl campers don’t like you, they mostly don’t get physical, they spread the nastiest rumours about you.
Horrible story but they entrapped you, they were telling him to leave multiple times and he wouldn't go. He had plenty of opportunities to leave the dangerous situation x
I’m so sorry you had to endure horrific bullying like that. Were the girls held accountable for what they did?
My heart breaks for Miu. Those teens and the 2 girls started the whole thing. They are the reason their friend is dead!
@taramcgavan7654 untrue statement, I was in child counseling for years, they tend to dislike the people who will demand they follow rules or someone who is new at it either way I've known people who were involved in nasty physical interactions with children who became excellent social workers. Bullying is a learned behavior no one is born with it
@@swampyankee8806precisely
Had a cousin come in to visit from another state. He threw rocks at a bees nest and got stung. His dad whipped his ass and did nothing to the bees. Lesson learned about being responsible for his own actions.
What almost all kids today are lacking while growing up. ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. Cause & effect. Also known as FAFO
Did nothing to the bees? What was he supposed to do
@@Velazquez4life-xf7tsSome might remove the nest to prevent further stings. I say bully that, they were no threat until some dumbass started chucking rocks.
@Jared-qf1tj Bees are more important than your kids. I'd rather have honey than your privileged kids.
@Jared-qf1tjactually it's very seldom an unprovoked attack, considering how many bees are out there.... I know innocent people get stung, I have been many times... but seriously are you saying kill all the bees and wasps ?? If you look into it a little their benefits far outweigh some random stings....
Bruce and Content G, I’m addicted to listening to your content. First guy I’m calling if I ever need a criminal defense attorney! HAPPY FATHERS DAY! As far as this case, you poke the bear, your gonna get bite!
This is another reason as to why gun control doesn't matter. This guy (in self defense or not) was able to stab 3 people in seconds; And before anyone knew it was even happening.
@erisacierno3479
I hate guns with a passion
but yes,
the mental disturbance is the
problem .
Disturbed people could just use
their hands if they wanted.
However guns make people
more disturbed
guns create negative energy and
that negative energy
infects people.
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I feel like people need stop taking sides. He never should have threw the kid off his floaty, they shouldn't have hit him, he shouldn't have escalated to assault with deadly weapon (especially since he wasn't at risk of death, I wouldn't have thought they were going to kill me in his situation), he shouldn't have stabbed the innocent bystander (you can't just attack EVERYONE around because you feel threatened), it goes all around. I'd say my opinion is he should be charged for manslaughter or third degree because he never should have taken it that far, he could have punched back, also he instigated from the vide9 we see, but they are also not innocent.
personally i think everyone there should have gotten charged for being reckless, or no one at all charged, everyone there should have handled it differently, not just the old man
Sticks and stones my friend.
52 isn't really old, is it?
No knives and bodies @@calliew311
If you watched the testimonies everyone lied. They lied about the kids screaming help. They lied about Madison getting hit/punched/slapped. Everyone one of the teens tried to downplay their part. The people who got that teen killed was Madison and that black kid.
Only 1 person there used a weapon to kill.
These kids were rude, and embarrassing to watch, but their stupidity isn't a death sentence.
Once he ran up on their tubes and grabbed at them, he lost a lot of credibility of self defence.
Thing is, he even knew he went way overboard with it, judging by his every action after.
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