How to Correct Protein Overload | Protein vs. Moisture 101
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2020
- How to achieve a balance of protein and moisture in your curly hair? What is protein overload, what are signs, and how do you correct it?
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I put together a cheat sheet of common protein ingredients and which ones are best for each hair type, on the blog post here: www.getglammedup.co/2020/05/video-how-to-correct-protein-overload.html
Hope that helps!
I've finally found someone who I can listen to. Straight to the facts not a bunch of filler and minutiae! So happy to have found you.
God bless you for all this information. I just turned 25, buzzed my hair off because that's how little I understand my own curly hair. I feel more confident with your videos to take care of my hair as it grows out again!!
Omg your timing is perfect!!! I've been working on my curls this quarantine with some help from your videos. This explains exactly why it went south! Lol. My hair has been dry even though I've been using very specific products that follow the curly girl method. Thank you so, so much!!!!!
You’re welcome! Sometimes a simple moisturizing deep conditioning treatment will do the trick!
Thank you.. One of the best videos on explaining protein. A lot of the other videos are confusing.
This is my first time ever coming across someone with hair just like mine!! Love your videos, thank you!!
I have been using the shea moisture curl and hibiscus line (which contains silk protein in every product) for the past 6 months and in the beginning it looked amazing and i have never been so happy with my curls before. A few weeks ago i started noticing that my hair was changing and kinda weird, less shine, definition, brittle and shattered and i thought i need moisture so i bought a deep conditioner but i was still horrible and i was getting kinda worried. Now it makes so much sense! I have protein overload due to using excessively and repeatedly silk protein in my hair! I will try to fix it! Thank u!
The same happened to me. I realized that every single one of my products had either a lot of protein or coconut oil. Every single one.
I am going to have to buy more so I can alternate between them.
@@any8574 I used my old products that still weren’t finished and i am starting now to reintroduce the shea moisture curl and hibiscus products in my routine again but slowly. Hopefully it will look as good as it looked before!
So much information! Thank you! Always feel so lost, as I am just starting my curly hair journey.
the best video explaining protein and moisture for curly hair on youtube ever!! hands down !!
Aw thanks so much!
I’m not getting too excited yet, but I followed this wash routine and my hair is way less frizzy than it usually is. I’m going to follow the routine in your calendar and hopefully I can turn around this crazy hair of mine. Thank you!
Protein in hair=Keratin. This video is so useful I’ve been dealing with this lol. My hair likes it then it doesn’t. Idk🤦🏼♀️ Hopefully the progress gets better! Thanks so much, such useful info!❤️
My hair is same dry, brittle and shedding now I know how I can save it... Thanks so much 😀
Proteine overload can easily be confused with very damaged protein. Hair that ist over processed with dye, bleach or relaxer will brake very easy, is not able to bind moisture to it and therefore feels extremely dry. So how can you tell if it's an overload or a severe damaged hair?
thats my hair
well i suppose you know if your hair has reasons to be damaged? if you constantly apply high heat to it, dye it etc then its damaged but if you havent done anything to ur hair it cant be severely damaged only from rubbing on pillows
if uve applied more protein products lately, you would know it’s overload
Yes, what the people above said. I have severely heat damaged overprocessed coily curly hair for example, so if you know that it is that, then that's what it is, and then if you haven't had anything that can cause damaged hair, and just used too much protein then it's protein overload. I had protein overload once, it was very sticky and was very hard like a rock. Damaged hair lost curl at this point, and needs to go through transitioning process to return back to curly hair/itself again. For me it looks like I have 3-4 hair types (2 at front 2 at back) (I have 2 types) due to extreme tangling that also happened due to me never learning how to care for my coily/curly hair after 15 years of heat damage, had to cut it all off at the back, but yea I hope that explains that.
Severely damaged hair is very brittle and weak and isnt curly anymore.
Am I the only one what wishes Gena would specify what "a little bit" of time means lol? Timing examples for each step would be wonderful
Wow thank you for this video I JUST went thru a protein overload and lost a handful of hair as a result of it and I'm still a week later trying dealing with it. Ugh 😒
Thank you so much, I've desperately been trying to find the reason for the breakage I'm experiencing, horrible. Discovered that my deep conditioner, who I thought had no protein in it, actually has a "strong one" in it (idk how to say that, english isn't my first language sorry). Hope it gets better when I switch to another one without protein :)
bought the deep conditioning mask and shampoo that u use and i cant wait to try it out
I never went through the same but I appreciate this vídeo so much. Thank you for the information
It's like you read my mind. I needed this. Thanks!!
🙌🏼💗💗
This is very helpful! Hello from Switzerland
What an amazing helpful video. I love!! Thank you.
This was the most informative video.
My hair has been dry for the past week but I couldn’t figure out why. This helped so much, thank you!
I'm so glad!
This is so helpful!
Do you apply styling products to soaking wet hair or to damp hair? So if my hair breaks when stretched, it has protein overload? This was a great video.
I have high porosity. Thank you for your valuable information
Omg i needed this video
Thank you so much ♥️♥️
How often should we use the clarifying shampoo and deep conditioner?
I’m so excited to see your review on the innersense line. I’ve been very hesitant to purchase them because depending on what website you look at, they have some ingredients that may not be curly friendly. However, I am curious to know how your hold was with the gel and if you had to do a lot of refreshing.
The hold is great! It holds up well through day 2. By day 3 I have to refresh
Gena M did you feel any dryness after using the gel? Your hair looked great!!
Should my leave in contain moisture or protein? Mine currently contains a lot of protein and I feel like thats what causing my protein overload
@GenaMarie Hello. Wonderful video. Super informative. I THINK this is what’s happened to my hair (low porosity and fine). Your link isn’t working anymore. Do you have an updated list of low protein brands? Thanks! 💜
My deep treatment mask has a vegetable proten.do you have a diy mask for this situation? +why did you deep condition your hair twice?in the beginning of the shower and in the end!should i do this too?
Do you prefer the Miche Oil or the Briogeo Dont Despair Repair Oil? Please could you make a video about all your favorite deep conditioning masks. I adore the Briogeo Dont Despair Repair Mask and the Miche Indulge with heat for 20min without heat it wasnt as good as with heat :)
Awesome and very informative video!! I believe my hair needs more protein so i will be trying gout the olaplex treatment this weekend.
Olaplex 3 doesn’t have any protein in it just FYI. Their shampoo, conditioner and styling cream have protein.
so informative. thank you!
hello. My experience was similar, i bleached my hair which already had moderade damage to it, and then i went overboard with protein treatments, and i got protein overload and my hair is literally breaking off and i really dont want to cut it. I have some questions. Is there some kind of pre-poo treatment to help get rid of protein overload? I ve been using olaplex no0 and no3 (technically they said that it s not a protein treatment but i see my hair getting worsw from it) so i stopped. I got a clarifying shampoo and some masks. How long should i focus on moisture and when should i start integrating protein again? I heard that apple cidre vinegar helps get rid of protein overload, and also pinnaple juice, what do you think i should do?
What do you think of the neutral protein filler. To add to other products when need to add protein.
What is the appropriate amount of hair protein for a person 12oz,32oz,,please answer me..
Very helpful, and very interesting! Thank you. :)
So I have low porostiy hair, I never damaged it with heat or color. I think I have a bit too much of protein. It is brittle, dry and easily knots. But when I put a deep conditioner in, a light one, my hair is just hanging straight and I loose my curl
Omds same I deep conditioned and my hair just turned flat and straight and lost my curl pattern ;(
same
What deep conditioner do you use?
Sameeeeee
@@albanianpurplegirl I used the Kevin Murphy Young Again Mask (and shampoo and conditioner), it transformed my hair to the worst. Whereas Kevin murphy's Repair me line did so good to my hair before. Now I am back with repair me, however, it's not the same as before unfortunately.
Such a helpful video
Thank you! Your channel is amazing! 3a/b fine /high porosity hair! 🥴 But I’m in the UK so I’m struggling to find the right products; sometimes I can order from the US amazon but it’s expensive. What do you think Eco styler gels? They work but are a bit heavy for my hair... and can dry it out! Curl keeper andJessie Curl gels are good but way to expensive ... 😝 thank you ❤️
I have never tried EcoStyler gels, but I have heard that they contain proteins, so you could start with a moisture base like a curl cream and/or leave-in conditioner to keep the hair balanced.
Thank you so much. This Video was very helpful. I just discovered the curly girl method and it works great but I have a lot of Problems with frizz and my curls don't really come together. This could also be because of course I just started. I don't have Problems with a lot of breakage but when I did the test the hair immediatly broke😅I hope I will find a good new shampoo or at least Alternative. There are already so many things I need to look for😅
I’m new to this & found out the hard way I’m low po & my hair hates protein!!
I’ve always colored my hair so assumed I had high porosity.
Thanks for the video! I dealt with protein overload for about 4 years. I didn't know it was a thing. I was using all one brand that had protein in every product, which made my hair dry, tangly, and frizzy. Wash day was always a nightmare for me back then.
I can’t imagine!
That's like me, my hair is overloaded with protein. OMG I just got to know.
How much protein do u use now?
And now how often did u use protein?
In your opinion protein last on hair If i wash only with water hair?
I have no idea what porosity hair I have, I’ve never used heat or dyes on my hair. It’s always really frizzy and it’s feeling super dry right now. I used a moisture mask thinking it would help and it didn’t really help. I tried the stretch test and it stretched a little then broke I’m not sure what to do I have to wash my hair today. For now I’m not gonna use products with protein and hopefully it works
I have low porosity hair but its only wavy not curly. Do I still need a gel product or would a mousse or serum be better?
Hello, just wondering why you deep conditioned twice? Especially the one before the clarifying wash?
Hi so what if I don't want to style my hair after showering, what do I do???
Hi Gena. Any tips on how to keep the curls off my face?
can anyone tell me how can I moisture my hair? I need a Diy moisturizer. without any butter
I believe I have high porosity hair but I might be protein sensitive because my hair gets very frizzy even when it’s wet, it breaks easily, when it’s dry it has no elasticity, it gets tangled immediately after brushing it again even when wet, it looks dry specially the ends, it falls out a lot. I don’t use heat of color on my hair either.
Hi!
Do you happen to know the flip side..aka how to tell if your hair doesn’t have enough protein in it? I’ve been told that your hair can look frizzy when your hair is overmoisturized or has protein overload as well. It’s very confusing because I can’t tell the reason behind my frizzy hair!
I know for me personally, when my hair needs protein or if I’m suffering from hydral fatigue it gets really mushy almost like slimy. Limp, it won’t hold much of a style/curl and I’ll get an unusual amount of tangles & frizz
Ok so the shampoo you used the Carols Daughter. Feels horrible when I put it in. Not the slippery feeling like you say it’s more dry feeling. Is that normal? Someone told bc of the Aloe in it. Should I use it or try a different kind?
I didn't know that having curly hair is sooo hard to maintain than straight hair huhu but still love my curls! Also I noticed when my curls are healthy is when i jump then it bounced.
Can i use the shampoo every time is wash day? O can I use this routine every time; and should I use the as I am leave in if I have high porosity?
I’d have to say everyone needs protein. Our hair is mostly protein. You just gotta find the right protein type for your hair.
Totally!
Protein moisture balance is a bit of a challenge. Straight hair is also a sign of over moistured hair. Excessive shedding can also be due to the hair being over moistured. So it's a bit tricky.
So true!
@@GenaMarie I always appreciate your videos 💝
Wow so how do you know if you have a need for protein or too much protein if that's the case? So confusing. And speaking to how hair that needs protein is dry and brittle, isn't under-moisturized hair brittle and dry as well?
Love it!!
In your opinion, how last protein on hair after wash them with only water?
Thank you!
Thanks for this video. Right now it is so hard to determine what is causing my dryness. With the stay at home orders there is a lot going on. My hair desperately needs a trim, it needs color (I have too much gray...and always color my hair), and I have been testing products. So I think that I am just in the "really dry" phase but not protein overload. Usually a deep conditioner with protein, will get me back on track, but last week and this week, I didn't get good results. I am thinking of alternating my weekly DCs - one week with protein and the next week with moisture. I definitely want to try out these tips. Thanks again for all your research!
You’re welcome! Glad it helped. I have the same issues going on, and I need a trim. I typically experience overall dryness and just need to do a good deep conditioning treatment with heat to get my curls to bounce back. I also alternate protein and moisture deep conditioners
is home made flaxseed gel provide protein or moisture?
Thank you so much for this video, Gena! Very helpful! Can you suggest an oil and deep conditioner (first two steps) other than Miche? I need to get this done quickly and those products could take quite awhile to ship according to their website. Thank you!
Unfortunately I haven't experimented with very many oils, since the Miche one lasts so long. This is another one I have and have liked: rstyle.me/+oK74jzVrw0W1E94D20v_Fw
Here are other protein-free deep conditioners I love:
rstyle.me/+oK74jzVrw0W1E94D20v_Fw
rstyle.me/+D3fmsBBgw-mv7cPsI3dTuA
www.bouncecurl.com/collections/shampoo-conditioner/products/ayurvedic-deep-conditioner?aff=6
@@GenaMarie Thank you very much for taking the time to respond! My curl pattern is similar to yours and your videos have been very helpful to me. I’m going to try your full regimen to get rid of this protein overload.
Is glycerin a protein?
Quick question, do oil treatments before shampooing penetrate the hair if you have products like mousse or gel in it? 😮
Great question! I'm not sure. I think it depends on the products. I imagine if you have products that are heavy in sealing oils, heavy butters, etc that it may not penetrate. However using an oil first will still help give slip and prevent shampoo from drying out your hair.
Is it important to do the products after the “not your mothers” product you used? The cream and the gel?
Not for deep conditioning/protein, but it is important for styling.
I did a mymanebio and low porosity hair turns out needs proteins but only hydrolyzed ones cause they are small
More on this pleaseee
You look so youthful without makeup 😊
After the DevaCurl scandal (thankfully I didn't seem to have any damage, but I stopped using their products just to be safe), I switched over to the NYM Curl Talk line just to have something safe while I look for my new go-to products. I noticed that most of the Curl Talk Products have keratin and something called Rice Curl Complex. I think I may be having protein issues since I do feel the ends of my curls are acting weird and seem to be losing their curl even one day after wash day. If someone is using the suite of Curl Talk products like me could they be at risk of protein overload? I have virgin 3B hair, never colored or heat treated, so my porosity is probably on the low side. Thanks for another great video!
Have you tried clarifying and deep conditioning? The Curl Talk line could cause some buildup because of the polyquat ingredients (sealing ingredients that help prevent frizz in humidity). I've found that clarifying once a month or so is ideal when using that line.
I am still confused though, because I have very little protein in my products, but then when I actually do a protein treatment, it will become extremely extremely soft and lengthened (so the symptoms explained with moisture overload occur when I use protein)😂
If tou have healthy undamaged hair is using protein even necessary? I used a tiny bit of a leave in conditioner with proteins and my hair feels like straw and is all puffy. Maybe i should stay away from it?
Pleaseeee I need help, on my crown area I Have alot of hairs that stick out they look thicker and darker than my natural hair and itss soo hard like straw they stick out and they they have werid shapes and they could never get down idk if its overload of protein can you please tell me what it is and how can i get rid of it ill dm u some pics on instagram
This explained what I've been going through thank you! You mentioned that it's good to wash hair less often but i usually get dandruff in like a day or 2 and I don't know why, I have a dry scalp and hair and it happens even when I oil it. It's so confusing I don't really know how to treat protein overload with dandruff.
I heard that cowash can help with that. It’s most likely not dandruff but tiny pieces of your scalp falling because of how dry it is. Of course, you know your own hair, but I said that because that can also be the cause. Maybe you are using many harsh products
Cowash would be great, Aloe Vera as well
I’ve never used any protein treatments in my hair before. I have very thick, dry, curly hair. My hair does feel dry and sometimes brittle, which confuses me because that is the symptoms of too much protein in the hair. I do use moisturizing deep conditioners- i want to add a protein treatment deep conditioner, how many times would i use it? Thank u!
Do you feel that your hair needs protein? If it’s lacking structure or damaged, you could incorporate a protein deep conditioner once a month or so.
Gena M yes! It definitely needs something extra. Thank you so much!
i know you mention that your ends might have trouble curling up but what does it mean if my ends curl find but i can't get any clumping or definition closer to the root?
don’t know if this helps but your hair products might be to heavy and you might be brushing down when you detangke
Whenever I wash my hair 2 days after (2 sleeping) it gets really dry could that be lack of moisture?
Yes, are you using shampoos/conditioners that contain any sulfates? If so, that could be the reason.
If is high porosity is probably because you didn't lock the moisture in properly in your washing day.
You can easily fix it refresh your hair with a mix of water and conditioner or coconut oil and then try to lock in with some sealing oils. This obviously is just if you hair is high porosity
Or a gel that seals in
This might sound obscured but your pillowcase, if it’s made of cotton, could be sucking out some of the moisture out of your hair, use a satin or silk one, or a bonnet.
@@saratami89 what are some good sealing oils?
Is your before on next day hair before you refreshed and your after is on a wash day once you finished styling? Or are both the before and after on wash days?
Both before and after from the same wash day. The after is my results after the wash day routine that corrected it. 😊
@@GenaMarie Ah okay! I've recently been experiencing my ends straightening too and know about protein overload, but didn't have much knowledge on it. Thank you for the detailed info 🙏🏼 I'm excited to give this a try and find some balance!
So I def chopped my hair off to above my shoulders because I thought it was my only option and I was so frustrated at what looked like super damaged hair, no matter what I did. Its dawning on me that it was prob protein overload and I could've fixed it. I'll be in the corner crying, yall 😬
Has anyone had individual strands of hair loose their curliness? I’ve got fairly low porosity 3b/4a hair and I’ve been mostly moisturizing it - haven’t done any protein treatments . It’s never done this before it’s so weird
Limp curls can also be a sign of moisture overload, so doing a protein mask every once in a while can help those curls shrink up 😊
wish I could get the not your mothers hair mask in the UK without having to pay so much
I put honey in my hair every week and within time I stopped (I only put honey in my hair for 3 weeks meaning I put it in 1 once week) and now I have so much oily stuff sitting on my scalp and I literally can’t get it off and I think it’s causing hair loss or something???? Btw I have wavy straight hair, can someone give me any tips please :(?
Can you use this shampoo everyday? I'm still learning about this protein overload stuff and I heard someone else say you only wanna use the clarifying shampoo just once during this protein overload because I dnt wanna strip my hair. Make sense? I'm looking for an everyday shampoo and conditioner without protein and coconut oil and I'm wondering if this Carol's daughter one you used on here could be it or if I can only use it just this once. It's blowing my mind how nearly every damn product has protein and or coconut oil! Feel like I'm going crazy trying to find these products, and at a decent price.
Yeah, it's definitely tough. I love the Carols Daughter Shampoo. They say its gentle enough to use each wash, but I wouldn't necessarily wash every day. I would say it could be used 2 times a week. It's not drying, but I always follow up with a deep conditioner.
@@GenaMarie Ok cool. No I meant for every wash day. I only wash once or maybe twice a week anyway. Never more than that. But ok I will purchase this. Thank you so much for responding. I dig that you actually respond.👌
This isnt relevant to anything but you have a gorgeous jawline
Thanks Gena! it was very informative and helpful. Just wanted to check if there is any protein in the below ingredients. Thanks :)
Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Water, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Cetearyl Alcohol, Isopropyl Myristate, Microcrystalline Wax (Cera Microcristallina), Polysorbate 20, Cetyl Alcohol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Polyquaternium-37, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, Stearic Acid, PPG-1 Trideceth-6, Tapioca Starch, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance (Parfum).
Glad it helped! I don't see any protein ingredients :)
Gena M Thanks a ton! :)
@@GenaMarie coconut is a protein and probably soybean is too
Why is the top of my head only dry and brittle
I thought NYM mask has rice protein in it?
I have experienced some products(not protein) causing my hair to feel really brittle sometimes.
Me too! Sometimes just having that moisture layer as a base from a protein-free leave-in conditioner or cream does the trick!
@@GenaMarie I noticed that my hair reacts better to a no-protein leave-in and the rest of my style products can have protein but doesn't bother, like you said a layer.
I don't know if is real or just my imagination but when I use the leave-in with protein in it my hair shrink as hell
It’s coconut stuff for me, it just makes my hair really dry and brittle. I also heard from people having problems with aloe Vera, etc. Apparently they are protein mimickers? and some hairs react badly to them.
Do you feel that ouidad advanced climate control gel is high in proteins?
It does have protein but it's never given me a negative reaction.
Hey, is it possible to have moisture overload in just one part of your hair? All of my hair feels fine except the top feels mushy and tangled :/
Yes! This is likely due to different porosities and textures. Try using a protein mask just on the top section to balance it.
Gena M thank you! That makes sense since my hair pattern is tighter at the top, I’ll let you know how it goes :)
My hair is damaged at the ends due to bleach but I’m not sure if I need protein or moisture. My hair doesn’t stretch and it usually snaps if I try to stretch it. However, it is also frizzy and very dry.
Snapping immediately means you need moisture :)
@@GenaMarie Are there any products you recommend?
Does "hydrolyzed" always mean protein? What about the ingredient Hydrolyzed vegetable oil, is that a protein?
I thought innersense is a protein line?
i couldn’t imagine detangling my hair dry, more breakage for me
girl same I have too much hair and it’s too curly (mine is 3c)
luzia stern same and my hair sheds a lot anyway
Are these products coconut oil free too???
Yes, they are!
Whoop! Whoop! Thank you!!!!😘
Damn my hair is spirally
Hello, how are you? I visited your channel and liked it a lot I already left that like I activated Tinker bell and
You are so pretty.
I thought honey was a protein. No?
Yay 1st comment!!!
Not all high porosity hair is damaged. Some hair is naturally higher porosity and perfectly healthy. A licensed stylist or trichilogist can help a person better asses their porosity and also troubleshoot issues of breakage and excessive dryness that may not be addressed by just guessing.
Also, it's important to respect the struggles of people of color by not appropriating the term *Natural Hair* . The Natural Hair Movement is very significant to people of color and does not apply to others. It's more appropriate to simply speak about your *curly hair* or *wavy hair*.
Definitely curious to check out the Innersense line now: appreciate the mini review 👍
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