all SETTINGS are here: bit.ly/3Fpu8zu Oct. 23: updated the 3d printed parts! check out my "Dolphin tips video": ua-cam.com/video/yVI1kMEs8o8/v-deo.html
looks amazing to fly, got some great shots of the other dolphins, its such a beautiful plane, half su 27 and half klingon warbird hehehe.... ps. i dont personally relax till i'm sitting in starbucks with my coffee and twirl bar looking at my gopro footage.
Yep, the forward swept wings and the nice looking canopy... Check wikipedia for the Su47. It even had forward swept wings - but not a real beauty. If I fly often enough with a prooven platform, I can relax rather quickly - but never 100% - that's right. But with Autolaunch and RTH, cruise mode... it's less stressful than it was a few years ago... greets and have a nice weekend!
This is why I've moved on from quads to wings. Flying formation in HD is an incredible experience especially through the clouds. I wish the Dolphin had a wider wingspan though to stabilize and add lift and maybe even add some lightweight EPS foam
Awesome chase footage! Thanks for sharing the inav settings! My Dolphin is slightly heavier, with a 2317 motor and a 10000mAh 4S li-ion pack, it also flies great with that setup.
Congratulations! That is really a great and efficient plane, good piloting and also thanks for the beautiful images on the end. Schöne Grüße aus München!
Since I don't use affiliate links these kinds of comments are golden for my sponsors ;) they need to know that the genuine fun and joy I have with their products jumps over to you guys ;) good luck for the maiden and have lots of great flights with it!
Brilliant take off, Mario! 😃 That's a really sweet model! It has sooo much space inside! Amazing flying and review, as always! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks Mario! I will forward your compliments for the nice start to the FC (I'm always using autolaunch so all the credit should go to the INAV defs) Have a nice weekend!
The Dolphin is so natural in flight! It has to be the best FPV plane I have ever owned. It flies like my larger FMS Futura EDF but without all the high amp draw.
Great video just found you my dolphin will be showing up 😊 But I will be flying old school no camera No Inav ! Just motor battery ESC and pito tube speed sensor 😊
The Dolphin is such a great plane to fly even just line of sight, but after watching this I'm looking forward to fitting an FC and flying it FPV. Love the aerial footage, great video. thank you
Phenomenal chase cam shots. Absolutely beautiful. Head tracking pan/tilt? Or drone with object tracking??? A couple of the 360 tracks were blowing my mind. Like 11:50 really? OMG...very nice...all the way around.
@@Rcschim One more question, my friend. My favorite US dealer has version 1.0 in stock. Would I be disappointed if I didn't get the 1.1? Thank you for your insight.
@@LiftVector hi again, not 100% sure about the differences between v1 and v1.1 I think the newer version has the INAV installed flightcontrol board and the v1 had no FC? please check the shop to see if it has the FC already installed. If you know how to solder up and install the FC yourself, you can buy something like the SpeedyBee F405 wing FC (great and only 35$ - just installed it in my ARWing this morning).
Beautiful place to fly. I am homesick. I've had two flights with my stock Dolphin. It flies very well but my side-toss autolaunch is extremely dramatic. I've tried recommended idle and launch throttle settings but the Dolphin just rolls to the left . I have had hundreds of successful side-toss autolaunches with a variety of wings but this one reminds me of the torque roll problems during launch with the AR Wing Pro which ended up in the trash. I don't want to have the Dolphin end up the same way. BTW, after a painful mishap once long ago, I swore to myself that I'll never again launch a pusher with my fingers anywhere near the prop.
7:26: How did you do that? I have been avoiding the Dolphin, even though it has all the other characteristics I always look for, because it's said to be hard to launch -- guys steeped in vulnerable, labour intensive balsa scratch builds like I am will never be comfortable with hand launches. Still, it's getting ever harder to watch one of your videos without adding a new item to my bucket list. Thanks for all the much needed inspiration you provide. And my local eagles still perch on my shoulder to watch your videos in awe. Daumen hoch!
Thanks for the nice comment. With the stock settings and some correct settings in inav it's really an easy start. I don't know if it also is easy to manually launch and I will probably never find out, since autolaunch works so flawless for me.
Mario, danke für das Video, Thorsten hat auch sehr gut den Flug gefilmt! Darf ich um einen Tipp fragen? Ich habe die Kit-Version von Dolphin bestellt und ich kann noch nicht richtigen Propeller auswählen: einerseits sagt man es muss unbedingt ein spezieller FW-Plane-Propeller sein, z.b. wie 7x6EP APC, aber manche benutzen einfach die Quadkopterpropeller, wie z.b. Gemfan 7042, und nach deiner Beschreibung kommt PnP-Version auch mit einem? Eine dumme Frage vielleicht, aber es ist mein erster RC-Flugzeug.
Hi, einige Freunde hier fliegen mit klappropeller, aber ich sehe den großen Vorteil oder unterschied nicht. Ich verwende den pnp prop, ein 70x40 oder 42 bin nicht ganz sicher. Ich habe aber am esc per blheli configurator die motorbremse aktiviert.
Hi Mario. I’ve enjoyed all of your Dolphin videos. I’m in a build right now and following your tips. How did you secure the DJI O3 air unit in the fuselage?
Hi, what flight footage do we look at in the end? Is this onboard footage through gyroflow? And is this auto settings or already some more fixed with ND filters? Other than that thanks a lot for the follow-up videos with more experiences after more flights👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Mario, Thank you for making this video. Lately, I've been quite interested in getting one of those planes or getting the Talon Pro. Could you please share your opinion? Essentially, I would love to fly a medium-long range with the plane, LI-Ion 4s2P 21700. What would you say, the Dolphin or the Talon Pro? Thank you
Hi, I don't know the TalonPro - but I have the MiniTalon - which is similar in Size. Between MiniTalon (also INAV) I like the Dolphin more. Maybe the Dolphin is a bit more affected by the wind? I also have the Mars FPV Warrior - not bad either. Good for longrange!
I should have done an overlay with telemetry... I will check it tomorrow and tell you. It of course depends on wind, with a slight breeze against me I could fly 30kph. With an airspeed sensor we could answer this more accurate ;)
Just getting into RC planes ✈️ myself and was wondering something. If you took some Teflon packaging (the tear proof stuff Fedex uses) and glue it to the bottom, would that make the plane glide across the grass better upon landing?
It's been some time but wasn't hard. In the ports tab you setup the peripheral to be vtx msp or something similar, I always mix it up with betaflight...
It really is a very good plane. My Dolphin v1 could use a new structure :) I also very often reverse the servos during setup. I am waiting for stock in Europe, do you have any information from atomrc? thanks for the video
Cool video! Do you use WtfOs and msp osd package? I already have Vista and rooted Googles v2 and I'm wondering how it will work if I will buy my first O3. I know that I have to switch between modes but I'm still wondering how much pain it is to do that. I heard that you might need re-bind every time you switch. Do you have any hints there?
Hi, yes I use wtfos on arwingpro and others. Dolphin is o3 and there the osd works kinda good, only some symbols are missing. So here Vista is better. Switching is a bit inconvenient but you get used to it. From o3 to Vista works without re- binding, but the other way round needs new binding. So I have a little pin in my goggles protector foam. You only need to re- bind one of your Vistas then all work (until the next switch to o3). But the advantages of o3 are there! Super image, good 4k cam with no extra weight... I heard the rumor that o3 will be cheaper soon, then I will buy 1-2. Greets Mario
- 3d printed latches for securing the canopy bit.ly/3AoxRKA I drill a little hole in foam and glue in a bowden tube from rc antenna and use a screw with the 3d part linked above
thanks, you're not to first to ask for those latches ;) I had them hidden unter settings in a zip file. now you can find them directly here: bit.ly/3AoxRKA greets, Mario
Thanks, i am also scared about the o3 heat problems, i was wondering if the heatsink is better or the 12 v minifan on top of O3. I tried today a first flight but sadly its was 50km h wind gust :))
@@eparustefan After my self built heatsink I've als added the iflight one (8$ - you can see it in my dolphin tipps video). It's still quite hot after a flight - but I get no warnings in the OSD about overheating. I will order some cheap fans and try them - I think it's the best way... I checked my 3d printed files list, and you're right - the servo covers were missing, added them there and here: Dolphin Servo-Covers: www.thingiverse.com/thing:5420328
Would like to see less drone shots of the airplane flying, and more video from the actual airplane pov. Is it not as good as the drones video quality? Which kit is this that came with electronics pre-installed? The one I just got PNP, came with all the electronics, but nothing is installed.
but I think the dolphin looks amazing from 3rd person (or rather 3rd copter view). onboard footage looks decent from O3 - once it's stabilized - I still don't like shakey plane footage (unless it's a really calm day, planes will always shake in the wind). greets, Mario
Either that, or you mount the lens high enough. I dont mind a little bit of the nose in the view. It's also an indicator if you have stabilized or raw video ;) and you also see how much the plane bounces around. For a friend I modified a funjet Nose, where the O3 Lens is in the front. I can share the link if you're curious (it's in onshape)
Oh absolutely! I'd love to see your nose design. I've got dolphin coming in the mail soon so I'm already planning what 3d prints I might need. Thank you!@@Rcschim
@@daniel.pendzich I ended up designing the nose for funjet new, and I think I can adapt this design also for the dolphin. Will just take a few more days. For the dolphin I’d print: closing helpers for canopy and back lid. Servo protectors, and some cooling options for the o3. Best to use a fan mount on the o3. Send me a quick mail at rcschim@gmx.at so I can reply as soon as I have the nose for the dolphin. Greets, Mario
Can go quite slow, but eventually will stall below 30kph. With stock setup you can get up to 130kph if you have some tail wind or a little dive, 100kph horizontal. Next I will install bigger motor and 6s pack. Then it will be even more fun...
Sehr cooles und informatives Video, danke dafür. Bei mir steht am Samstag der Erstflug an, kannst du mir diesbezüglich deine Inav 6 Autolaunch Settings zeigen?
Danke, meist findest solche Infos bei meinen Videos in der Beschreibung. all SETTINGS are here: bit.ly/3Fpu8zu Aber hier nochmal rausgesucht: set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300 set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863 set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 90 set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 1000 set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100 set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100 set nav_fw_launch_end_time = 2000 set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 0 set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000 set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 0 set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 25 set nav_fw_launch_manual_throttle = OFF set nav_fw_launch_abort_deadband = 100
Die geflügelte Banane geht ab wie ein Korken. Aber hast du auch genug Zeit deine Hand weg zu ziehen? Ohne in die Finger zu hacken? Oder kann man den auch über Kopf werfen? Oder würde er mit einer Autolaunch Motor Verzögerung von 0,8s trotsdem noch gut hoch ziehen?
Hatte beim werfen noch keine ungewollten Berührungen mit props, bei keinem meiner inav Flieger. Wenn der prop in der Hand schon mit idle Gas läuft, hilft das auch beim Wurf gleich mit an zu schieben…
@@Rcschim falls der Mini AR Wing etwas sagt, bei dem hatte ich mir mal im den Finger geknallt. Aber der ist auch kürzer. Unglaublich dass es den damals PNP bei Banggood Flash deals damals für nur 35€ gab. Jezt kostet alles PNP 100€
When you make the flight footage, can you show the DVR rather than the stabilised video. The stabilised footage looks nice but it doesn't tell us anything about the flight characteristics of the aircraft.
I agree now - but during cutting the video, I wanted to have nice looking footage. It's always a battle in me: tech review or beautiful flight footage? will consider your feedback on the next such video! Thanks!
Nope, that's not a problem with P factor, rather with your handlaunch? or too high motor throttle (that causes Motor torque). See my settings here (Autolaunch settings) but I think it was 85%. Higher motor throttle is not always better in that case (because the wings don't have aero effect yet, because too slow, you're wings control surface cannot counter the motor torque). Could also be a problem that your plane is either too heavy, the motor too weak... the prop too small?
My dolphin weight 880g, set throttle at 1780-1800, 2306 motor 2500kv, 5045 propeller, angle launch 18deg, fw level offset 2 deg, ....it always turn and roll to left during auto lunch..
@@YT-qp3xw Yes, as long as it doesnt crash on launch - it's ok ;) Definitly feels more save with autolaunch now, than with manual launch. My successrate in manual launches was terrible on wings ;)
Hi, after my stock motor burnt out, I tried to replace it with some drone motors I already had. None of them really worked. Burnt another one since the 7x4.2 biblade is really large... Lastly I went for this combo: T-Motor F90 2806.5 Long Range 1500KV T-Motor F35A ESC 2S-6S BLHeli 32Bit And this works great. Would even work with 6S packs, but I don't have the right props. Some 6 x 4 x3 didn't work, it stalled and made weird loud noise around 80% and up. Also it was slower with this than 4cell and the 7x4.2 biblade. Will probably make another video about this.... greets, Mario
Yes, here you'll find the specs of the AtomRC FC used: atomrc.com/products/atomrc-fixed-wing-flight-controller-f405-navi and of course this plane flies awesome with Ardupilot. It's something that I want to dive into this year. Sounds a bit more complicated to set up than INAV, but friends keep telling me how great it will fly then, eventually ;) greets, Mario
@@Rcschim Well, I don't know if it will fly better than with inav, since inav is based on the cleanflight project which has always had better flight characteristics than the ardupilot core... but for sure with AP you should have access to fancier things like python scripting and a greater range of autonomous capabilities.
Check my link and find good setting. I will update inav 6 to 6.q soon and revisit the tune, maybe I can get it to fly even better, but it is already a real joy to fly. My next video will show some of the fun ;)
@@tubamanandy2 From my notes it came with a pretty basic setup - but INAV preinstalled - which you don't see too often. There's not a lot to tune (at least to my understanding) on planes. Last week I tried to pid tune an old frame with 12x6 props and modern FC (speedy F7V3). This took quite some time ;) still flies like crap. On the planes (Dolphin or Mars1200) I think they have more "shakes" in gusts - but you cannot get rid of this fully (the servos reaction to wind gusts is always too slow / late). ultra fast RPM changes on copters are a much better measure against windgusts! Still I love flying planes now as well! As I said - stay tuned as I will update my dolphin to INAV 6.1 and also try to get a better, smoother setup...
10mins was only with my old, small lipo. With 3000mah 4s liion I fly closer to 30 min if I cruise around. 20 with speed flying. If I need max flying time for long range I could use way more battery capa
@@dronepilot260rc Awesome endurance. I've noticed that it's a pretty efficient plane already with stock setup. If I was to fly for range or endurance, it would mostly use 2-3amps in normal cruise mode. I have 5 of these 18650 packs, 3Ah/4s with the VTC6 cells, they are not outstanding - but good allrounders! And for most flights it was ok to swap the pack after 20-25mins - I find it quite exhausting to fly longer in one flight ;)
yeah, I got an TMotor f90 now (which also can go 6s) on first tests with a 6x4x3 prop, the prop stalled (loud noise at 80% thr) so I didnt get more speed with 6S vs. 4S (4S + 7x4.2x2 prop) overall I've learnt that bigger props (6 or 7" are important for worry-free launches)
Stimmt, da könnte man das flugverhalten besser bewerten, aber das wackeln find ich halt sehr störend als copter pilot... werde beim nächsten Video ein paar dvr Szenen von dolphin mit einbauen...
@@Rcschim Danke für die Antwort Schimmi. Genau darum geht es... wie fliegt der Flieger wirklich. Glattgebügelte Videos gibt es genug im Netz. Und genau das ist der Pferdefuss. Um sich ein echtes Urteil erlauben zu können, sollte wenigstens ein Teil des Videos RAW sein. Das könnte Deinem Kanal sogar zuträglich sein, weil er dann noch mehr Objektivität widerspiegelt. PS: hast Du noch einen Black Bullet oder Black Snapper Mini? Die vermisse ich an Deiner Kopterwall ;-9
@@Rcschim ;-) nene, hab ihn entdeckt, der kleine Snapper hängt links unten, links neben dem Controller der Avata ;-) PS: Ich hab die damals entworfen und produziert. GF ware nur der Verkäufer
Aja stimmt! Den kleinen snapper gabs ja auch! Das war noch zu naze32 Zeiten ;) flog aber gut der kleine! Damals halt. Kann mich noch erinnern dass ich ein Video "magic carpet ride" getauft hab. Den großen snapper1 hatte ich ja leider in den Dolomiten verloren, unvorsichtig im Gebiet eines Adlerpärchens geflogen und sehr unsanft aus der Luft gerissen worden ;) Später hab ich dann für einen Freund einen 2ten aufgebaut, der wollte ihn dann irgendwann nicht mehr und hat endlich eingesehen, dass ein Phantom 3 besser zu ihm passt. Vielleicht stell ich den dicken snapper mal noch auf inav oder ardupilot um. Mit DJI naza fliegt er wie ein Bus ;) Lg, Mario
Atom rc ordering is a mess. I had to contact my credit card company to get a refund for product I didn’t get. They never had any intention of sending me my parts, but dragged it on for months. I’ve bought 4 planes from then, but I am done :(
all SETTINGS are here: bit.ly/3Fpu8zu
Oct. 23: updated the 3d printed parts!
check out my "Dolphin tips video": ua-cam.com/video/yVI1kMEs8o8/v-deo.html
Is there a way to assemble it with the configuration that came in the box? i bought The RTH fpv Version, i need help
thank you
First time I see one of my designs in a youtube video (ESC cover), danke! :)
Hey, die Welt ist klein. Danke fürs tolle Design, die neuere Version passt super.
looks amazing to fly, got some great shots of the other dolphins, its such a beautiful plane, half su 27 and half klingon warbird hehehe.... ps. i dont personally relax till i'm sitting in starbucks with my coffee and twirl bar looking at my gopro footage.
Yep, the forward swept wings and the nice looking canopy...
Check wikipedia for the Su47. It even had forward swept wings - but not a real beauty.
If I fly often enough with a prooven platform, I can relax rather quickly - but never 100% - that's right. But with Autolaunch and RTH, cruise mode... it's less stressful than it was a few years ago...
greets and have a nice weekend!
I chuckled at “I’m not relaxed yet”. Been there.
Great chasing footage! The dolphin looks like a space shuttle ☺️
This is why I've moved on from quads to wings. Flying formation in HD is an incredible experience especially through the clouds. I wish the Dolphin had a wider wingspan though to stabilize and add lift and maybe even add some lightweight EPS foam
Awesome chase footage! Thanks for sharing the inav settings! My Dolphin is slightly heavier, with a 2317 motor and a 10000mAh 4S li-ion pack, it also flies great with that setup.
Must fly forever with 10ah ;)
Congratulations! That is really a great and efficient plane, good piloting and also thanks for the beautiful images on the end.
Schöne Grüße aus München!
This is my ultimate FPV machine. I have three of them.
fantastic flight shots well done TJ
Yep, he was really passionate about getting the best shots. Also during our formation flying on that same day (will be the next vid)
Very nice plane. After watching your video I went ahead ordered this one. Thanks for the video.
Since I don't use affiliate links these kinds of comments are golden for my sponsors ;) they need to know that the genuine fun and joy I have with their products jumps over to you guys ;) good luck for the maiden and have lots of great flights with it!
very impressive! great stuff from atom rc !
Thanks again for your help with the external shots!
Brilliant take off, Mario! 😃
That's a really sweet model! It has sooo much space inside!
Amazing flying and review, as always!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks Mario! I will forward your compliments for the nice start to the FC (I'm always using autolaunch so all the credit should go to the INAV defs)
Have a nice weekend!
The Dolphin is so natural in flight! It has to be the best FPV plane I have ever owned. It flies like my larger FMS Futura EDF but without all the high amp draw.
So beautiful footages!
Great video just found you my dolphin will be showing up 😊 But I will be flying old school no camera No Inav ! Just motor battery ESC and pito tube speed sensor 😊
The Dolphin is such a great plane to fly even just line of sight, but after watching this I'm looking forward to fitting an FC and flying it FPV. Love the aerial footage, great video. thank you
Thanks Billy!
Wow. Great chase shots at the end. 🤓🤘🏼
Great review, thank you. And the external flying shots... just amazing!
Thanks, check today's video, similar plane and also great external shots from a friend chasing my plane
Phenomenal chase cam shots. Absolutely beautiful. Head tracking pan/tilt? Or drone with object tracking??? A couple of the 360 tracks were blowing my mind. Like 11:50 really? OMG...very nice...all the way around.
Thanks go to my friend TJ. He chased the Dolphin with his Chimera7 drone. Gopro11 in highes res and then keyframe tracking the subject if necessary.
@@Rcschim I assumed it was a quad after watching it again, but damn...that is really good control chasing it. Impressive.
brilliant
Nicely done, especially the 3d printed parts! Great video to.
Looks good in the sky.
Great review!
Great video! I hope to add one of these to my hangar soon.
Yes, you should, I still fly this the most! Easy and capable flyer.
@@Rcschim One more question, my friend. My favorite US dealer has version 1.0 in stock. Would I be disappointed if I didn't get the 1.1? Thank you for your insight.
@@LiftVector hi again, not 100% sure about the differences between v1 and v1.1
I think the newer version has the INAV installed flightcontrol board and the v1 had no FC? please check the shop to see if it has the FC already installed.
If you know how to solder up and install the FC yourself, you can buy something like the SpeedyBee F405 wing FC (great and only 35$ - just installed it in my ARWing this morning).
Beautiful place to fly. I am homesick.
I've had two flights with my stock Dolphin. It flies very well but my side-toss autolaunch is extremely dramatic. I've tried recommended idle and launch throttle settings but the Dolphin just rolls to the left . I have had hundreds of successful side-toss autolaunches with a variety of wings but this one reminds me of the torque roll problems during launch with the AR Wing Pro which ended up in the trash. I don't want to have the Dolphin end up the same way. BTW, after a painful mishap once long ago, I swore to myself that I'll never again launch a pusher with my fingers anywhere near the prop.
7:26: How did you do that? I have been avoiding the Dolphin, even though it has all the other characteristics I always look for, because it's said to be hard to launch -- guys steeped in vulnerable, labour intensive balsa scratch builds like I am will never be comfortable with hand launches. Still, it's getting ever harder to watch one of your videos without adding a new item to my bucket list. Thanks for all the much needed inspiration you provide. And my local eagles still perch on my shoulder to watch your videos in awe. Daumen hoch!
Thanks for the nice comment. With the stock settings and some correct settings in inav it's really an easy start. I don't know if it also is easy to manually launch and I will probably never find out, since autolaunch works so flawless for me.
"Give me 5 minutes" awesome, lol...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
Mario, danke für das Video,
Thorsten hat auch sehr gut den Flug gefilmt!
Darf ich um einen Tipp fragen?
Ich habe die Kit-Version von Dolphin bestellt und ich kann noch nicht richtigen Propeller auswählen:
einerseits sagt man es muss unbedingt ein spezieller FW-Plane-Propeller sein, z.b. wie 7x6EP APC,
aber manche benutzen einfach die Quadkopterpropeller, wie z.b. Gemfan 7042,
und nach deiner Beschreibung kommt PnP-Version auch mit einem?
Eine dumme Frage vielleicht, aber es ist mein erster RC-Flugzeug.
Hi, einige Freunde hier fliegen mit klappropeller, aber ich sehe den großen Vorteil oder unterschied nicht. Ich verwende den pnp prop, ein 70x40 oder 42 bin nicht ganz sicher. Ich habe aber am esc per blheli configurator die motorbremse aktiviert.
Is there a way to assemble it with the configuration that came in the box? i bought The RTH fpv Version, i need help
Good times👍
Hi Mario. I’ve enjoyed all of your Dolphin videos. I’m in a build right now and following your tips. How did you secure the DJI O3 air unit in the fuselage?
On a foam block that was hot glued in. Onto the foam I used 3m dual lock hook and loop tape.
@@Rcschim thanks Mario.
Hi, what flight footage do we look at in the end? Is this onboard footage through gyroflow? And is this auto settings or already some more fixed with ND filters?
Other than that thanks a lot for the follow-up videos with more experiences after more flights👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Mario, Thank you for making this video. Lately, I've been quite interested in getting one of those planes or getting the Talon Pro. Could you please share your opinion? Essentially, I would love to fly a medium-long range with the plane, LI-Ion 4s2P 21700. What would you say, the Dolphin or the Talon Pro? Thank you
Hi, I don't know the TalonPro - but I have the MiniTalon - which is similar in Size. Between MiniTalon (also INAV) I like the Dolphin more. Maybe the Dolphin is a bit more affected by the wind? I also have the Mars FPV Warrior - not bad either. Good for longrange!
Hi Mario, great video, really like the setup and maiden went well. Do you have a link to the 3d printed hatch locks?
thanks, I dont find the orig link, but check it here bit.ly/3Fpu8zu there's a 3dprinted parts. zip filed... the thing is called "verschlussnupsi"
Very very nice.
Mario, finally does Atomrc improve flight characteristics in v1.1, for example stalling speed? In the end, what was the stall speed?
I should have done an overlay with telemetry... I will check it tomorrow and tell you. It of course depends on wind, with a slight breeze against me I could fly 30kph. With an airspeed sensor we could answer this more accurate ;)
@@Rcschim oh, I forgot, that you do not use air speed sensor, sadly( without airspeed it is absolutely not accurate information.
@@Pukkaras maybe I move on to ardupilot some point and get more sensors...
Just getting into RC planes ✈️ myself and was wondering something. If you took some Teflon packaging (the tear proof stuff Fedex uses) and glue it to the bottom, would that make the plane glide across the grass better upon landing?
Yep, that's for sure a good idea!
Amazing! How do you get the iNav OSD on the O3 though? Didn't see that in video description
It's been some time but wasn't hard. In the ports tab you setup the peripheral to be vtx msp or something similar, I always mix it up with betaflight...
Looks real nice wonder if it's a good flyer 🙂
it sure is!
It really is a very good plane.
My Dolphin v1 could use a new structure :)
I also very often reverse the servos during setup.
I am waiting for stock in Europe, do you have any information from atomrc?
thanks for the video
The shipping from China, directly from AtomRC was quite speedy (~1week?)
Hi Mario, nice 😉
Cool video! Do you use WtfOs and msp osd package? I already have Vista and rooted Googles v2 and I'm wondering how it will work if I will buy my first O3. I know that I have to switch between modes but I'm still wondering how much pain it is to do that. I heard that you might need re-bind every time you switch. Do you have any hints there?
Hi, yes I use wtfos on arwingpro and others. Dolphin is o3 and there the osd works kinda good, only some symbols are missing. So here Vista is better.
Switching is a bit inconvenient but you get used to it. From o3 to Vista works without re- binding, but the other way round needs new binding. So I have a little pin in my goggles protector foam.
You only need to re- bind one of your Vistas then all work (until the next switch to o3).
But the advantages of o3 are there! Super image, good 4k cam with no extra weight...
I heard the rumor that o3 will be cheaper soon, then I will buy 1-2.
Greets Mario
On 3d printed latches at 5:59. You say bowden tube. Is this the normal bawden tube we use on 3d printers ? it looks like filament to me? Thanks
- 3d printed latches for securing the canopy bit.ly/3AoxRKA
I drill a little hole in foam and glue in a bowden tube from rc antenna and use a screw with the 3d part linked above
Amazing model, it's my favourite. We're the canopy latches 3d printed that you used? If they were, do you have a link please?
thanks, you're not to first to ask for those latches ;) I had them hidden unter settings in a zip file.
now you can find them directly here: bit.ly/3AoxRKA
greets, Mario
@@Rcschim Thanks Mario, Printing now! Great stuff :)
Great review❤ What print have you used for servo covers ? :D i didnt find it in the description.
Look again I think there was a zip file with the stls. I will check tomorrow if needed.
Thanks, i am also scared about the o3 heat problems, i was wondering if the heatsink is better or the 12 v minifan on top of O3. I tried today a first flight but sadly its was 50km h wind gust :))
@@eparustefan After my self built heatsink I've als added the iflight one (8$ - you can see it in my dolphin tipps video). It's still quite hot after a flight - but I get no warnings in the OSD about overheating. I will order some cheap fans and try them - I think it's the best way...
I checked my 3d printed files list, and you're right - the servo covers were missing, added them there and here: Dolphin Servo-Covers: www.thingiverse.com/thing:5420328
very cool. Liked!
The one camera nose and holder 3d parts are created with PLA?
no, with TPU...
Would like to see less drone shots of the airplane flying, and more video from the actual airplane pov. Is it not as good as the drones video quality? Which kit is this that came with electronics pre-installed? The one I just got PNP, came with all the electronics, but nothing is installed.
but I think the dolphin looks amazing from 3rd person (or rather 3rd copter view).
onboard footage looks decent from O3 - once it's stabilized - I still don't like shakey plane footage (unless it's a really calm day, planes will always shake in the wind).
greets, Mario
Shoot I was really hoping that the nose wouldn't be visible with that o3 mount. Is the only other alternative sticking it into the nose?
Either that, or you mount the lens high enough. I dont mind a little bit of the nose in the view. It's also an indicator if you have stabilized or raw video ;) and you also see how much the plane bounces around.
For a friend I modified a funjet Nose, where the O3 Lens is in the front. I can share the link if you're curious (it's in onshape)
Oh absolutely! I'd love to see your nose design. I've got dolphin coming in the mail soon so I'm already planning what 3d prints I might need. Thank you!@@Rcschim
@@daniel.pendzich I ended up designing the nose for funjet new, and I think I can adapt this design also for the dolphin. Will just take a few more days.
For the dolphin I’d print: closing helpers for canopy and back lid. Servo protectors, and some cooling options for the o3. Best to use a fan mount on the o3. Send me a quick mail at rcschim@gmx.at so I can reply as soon as I have the nose for the dolphin. Greets, Mario
Hello friend, sorry I was not clear about the point of loss. Is it a plane that needs to go fast? thank you
Can go quite slow, but eventually will stall below 30kph. With stock setup you can get up to 130kph if you have some tail wind or a little dive, 100kph horizontal. Next I will install bigger motor and 6s pack. Then it will be even more fun...
@@Rcschim Thank you my friend for the prompt response, your information is very useful to me. I send you a hug and thanks for your videos
Sehr cooles und informatives Video, danke dafür.
Bei mir steht am Samstag der Erstflug an, kannst du mir diesbezüglich deine Inav 6 Autolaunch Settings zeigen?
Danke, meist findest solche Infos bei meinen Videos in der Beschreibung. all SETTINGS are here: bit.ly/3Fpu8zu
Aber hier nochmal rausgesucht:
set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300
set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863
set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 90
set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40
set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 1000
set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100
set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100
set nav_fw_launch_end_time = 2000
set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 0
set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000
set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 0
set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 25
set nav_fw_launch_manual_throttle = OFF
set nav_fw_launch_abort_deadband = 100
Die geflügelte Banane geht ab wie ein Korken. Aber hast du auch genug Zeit deine Hand weg zu ziehen? Ohne in die Finger zu hacken?
Oder kann man den auch über Kopf werfen? Oder würde er mit einer Autolaunch Motor Verzögerung von 0,8s trotsdem noch gut hoch ziehen?
Hatte beim werfen noch keine ungewollten Berührungen mit props, bei keinem meiner inav Flieger. Wenn der prop in der Hand schon mit idle Gas läuft, hilft das auch beim Wurf gleich mit an zu schieben…
@@Rcschim falls der Mini AR Wing etwas sagt, bei dem hatte ich mir mal im den Finger geknallt. Aber der ist auch kürzer. Unglaublich dass es den damals PNP bei Banggood Flash deals damals für nur 35€ gab. Jezt kostet alles PNP 100€
When you make the flight footage, can you show the DVR rather than the stabilised video. The stabilised footage looks nice but it doesn't tell us anything about the flight characteristics of the aircraft.
I agree now - but during cutting the video, I wanted to have nice looking footage. It's always a battle in me: tech review or beautiful flight footage? will consider your feedback on the next such video! Thanks!
Bro, do u have any problem with P factor during auto launch? How to counteract if our aircraft roll/turn to left during launch?
Nope, that's not a problem with P factor, rather with your handlaunch? or too high motor throttle (that causes Motor torque). See my settings here (Autolaunch settings) but I think it was 85%. Higher motor throttle is not always better in that case (because the wings don't have aero effect yet, because too slow, you're wings control surface cannot counter the motor torque).
Could also be a problem that your plane is either too heavy, the motor too weak... the prop too small?
My dolphin weight 880g, set throttle at 1780-1800, 2306 motor 2500kv, 5045 propeller, angle launch 18deg, fw level offset 2 deg, ....it always turn and roll to left during auto lunch..
So, is it normal behaviour?
@@YT-qp3xw Yes, as long as it doesnt crash on launch - it's ok ;) Definitly feels more save with autolaunch now, than with manual launch. My successrate in manual launches was terrible on wings ;)
Agreed...im bad in handlaunch...but my new sky surfer x8 doesnt have so much to tweak as much as dolphin...thanks buddy
Hi, can i use 2207 1750kv for this 30A setup? My dolphin came with 23xx 2000kv (version 1) thanks.
Hi, after my stock motor burnt out, I tried to replace it with some drone motors I already had. None of them really worked. Burnt another one since the 7x4.2 biblade is really large...
Lastly I went for this combo:
T-Motor F90 2806.5 Long Range 1500KV
T-Motor F35A ESC 2S-6S BLHeli 32Bit And this works great. Would even work with 6S packs, but I don't have the right props. Some 6 x 4 x3 didn't work, it stalled and made weird loud noise around 80% and up. Also it was slower with this than 4cell and the 7x4.2 biblade.
Will probably make another video about this.... greets, Mario
@@Rcschim can you recommend a cheaper motor than the T-Motor F90 2806.5?
Can this be flashed with Ardupilot?
Yes, here you'll find the specs of the AtomRC FC used: atomrc.com/products/atomrc-fixed-wing-flight-controller-f405-navi
and of course this plane flies awesome with Ardupilot. It's something that I want to dive into this year. Sounds a bit more complicated to set up than INAV, but friends keep telling me how great it will fly then, eventually ;)
greets, Mario
@@Rcschim Well, I don't know if it will fly better than with inav, since inav is based on the cleanflight project which has always had better flight characteristics than the ardupilot core... but for sure with AP you should have access to fancier things like python scripting and a greater range of autonomous capabilities.
Does it come with a decent tune ?
Check my link and find good setting.
I will update inav 6 to 6.q soon and revisit the tune, maybe I can get it to fly even better, but it is already a real joy to fly. My next video will show some of the fun ;)
@@Rcschim But does the F405 come with a good tune - not your tune
@@tubamanandy2 From my notes it came with a pretty basic setup - but INAV preinstalled - which you don't see too often.
There's not a lot to tune (at least to my understanding) on planes. Last week I tried to pid tune an old frame with 12x6 props and modern FC (speedy F7V3). This took quite some time ;) still flies like crap.
On the planes (Dolphin or Mars1200) I think they have more "shakes" in gusts - but you cannot get rid of this fully (the servos reaction to wind gusts is always too slow / late). ultra fast RPM changes on copters are a much better measure against windgusts! Still I love flying planes now as well!
As I said - stay tuned as I will update my dolphin to INAV 6.1 and also try to get a better, smoother setup...
@@Rcschim Thanks
obviously people want a plane with more lift and that can fly slower for longer. 10 min. is pretty lame. looks cool.
10mins was only with my old, small lipo. With 3000mah 4s liion I fly closer to 30 min if I cruise around. 20 with speed flying. If I need max flying time for long range I could use way more battery capa
@@Rcschim Painless-360 is getting 30 min on his setup
Can get closer to 60 mins with an Emax Eco II 2807 1300kv with 4s 5000 21700 lithium ion pack 🥂
@@dronepilot260rc Awesome endurance. I've noticed that it's a pretty efficient plane already with stock setup. If I was to fly for range or endurance, it would mostly use 2-3amps in normal cruise mode. I have 5 of these 18650 packs, 3Ah/4s with the VTC6 cells, they are not outstanding - but good allrounders! And for most flights it was ok to swap the pack after 20-25mins - I find it quite exhausting to fly longer in one flight ;)
@@dronepilot260rc what prop size on this combo ?
6s and bigger motor!
yeah, I got an TMotor f90 now (which also can go 6s) on first tests with a 6x4x3 prop, the prop stalled (loud noise at 80% thr) so I didnt get more speed with 6S vs. 4S (4S + 7x4.2x2 prop)
overall I've learnt that bigger props (6 or 7" are important for worry-free launches)
@@Rcschimtry the tmotor t6143 prop. Very good imo.
Also azure 6145.
Schade das Du nicht das Raw Videobild zeigst, sondern eine stabilisierte Aufnahme.
Stimmt, da könnte man das flugverhalten besser bewerten, aber das wackeln find ich halt sehr störend als copter pilot... werde beim nächsten Video ein paar dvr Szenen von dolphin mit einbauen...
@@Rcschim Danke für die Antwort Schimmi.
Genau darum geht es... wie fliegt der Flieger wirklich. Glattgebügelte Videos gibt es genug im Netz. Und genau das ist der Pferdefuss. Um sich ein echtes Urteil erlauben zu können, sollte wenigstens ein Teil des Videos RAW sein. Das könnte Deinem Kanal sogar zuträglich sein, weil er dann noch mehr Objektivität widerspiegelt.
PS: hast Du noch einen Black Bullet oder Black Snapper Mini? Die vermisse ich an Deiner Kopterwall ;-9
@@FpvFreak die Bullet liegt leider unerreichbar in den Bergen, einen snapper hab ich noch, aber der ist ein wenig groß für die Wand ;)
@@Rcschim ;-) nene, hab ihn entdeckt, der kleine Snapper hängt links unten, links neben dem Controller der Avata ;-)
PS: Ich hab die damals entworfen und produziert. GF ware nur der Verkäufer
Aja stimmt! Den kleinen snapper gabs ja auch! Das war noch zu naze32 Zeiten ;) flog aber gut der kleine! Damals halt. Kann mich noch erinnern dass ich ein Video "magic carpet ride" getauft hab.
Den großen snapper1 hatte ich ja leider in den Dolomiten verloren, unvorsichtig im Gebiet eines Adlerpärchens geflogen und sehr unsanft aus der Luft gerissen worden ;)
Später hab ich dann für einen Freund einen 2ten aufgebaut, der wollte ihn dann irgendwann nicht mehr und hat endlich eingesehen, dass ein Phantom 3 besser zu ihm passt.
Vielleicht stell ich den dicken snapper mal noch auf inav oder ardupilot um. Mit DJI naza fliegt er wie ein Bus ;)
Lg, Mario
Уххх!!! Супер!!!
you need to get more drones ? lol
Only good ones from now on will be allowed on that wall ;)
These pegwalls from Ikea are to expensive for cheap drones ;)
@@Rcschim lmao..the hook kits can even break the bank ha
@@BrainDeadEngineering ha, not anymore, I print them now to my likings, there are so many 3d printing guys with Ikea pegwalls ;)
Atom rc ordering is a mess. I had to contact my credit card company to get a refund for product I didn’t get.
They never had any intention of sending me my parts, but dragged it on for months.
I’ve bought 4 planes from then, but I am done :(