Ron Dennis and Alain Prost about Senna's Accident Cause

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  • Ron Dennis and Alain Prost talk about what they think happened to Ayrton Senna.
    Ron Dennis e Alain Prost falam sobre o que eles acham que aconteceu com Ayrton Senna. Legendas em português, clique no ícone para selecionar o idioma.
    Thanks Mulsanne from reddit.com/r/formula1 for helping translating what Prost was saying.

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  • @timmckenzie-mcharg2227
    @timmckenzie-mcharg2227 Рік тому +173

    In the last few months of his life Senna was on very friendly terms with Prost. After Senna's death, Prost defended him like he would a true friend.

    • @Aramis_Production
      @Aramis_Production Рік тому +27

      Prost even said that prior the Imola race, Senna was passing by him in the padock and stopped and saluted him amicably, signaling with his hand "We talk after the race.."

    • @nigelkelley3004
      @nigelkelley3004 9 місяців тому +9

      I don’t buy all this “friend” stuff. Ayrton called Alain a coward for writing a clause excluding Ayrton from joining Williams. He manipulated Balestre to disadvantage Ayrton several times. Alain tried to discredit Ayrton at every opportunity. After his death Alain claims they were friends. Unfortunately, we don’t have Ayrton around to confirm it. Basically I don’t trust Alain.

    • @timmckenzie-mcharg2227
      @timmckenzie-mcharg2227 9 місяців тому +49

      @@nigelkelley3004 'I want to say a special hello to my dear friend Alain, we all miss you Alain'. Senna's radio message to Prost on board his Williams while preparing for the fateful San Marino GP.

    • @nigelkelley3004
      @nigelkelley3004 9 місяців тому +3

      @@timmckenzie-mcharg2227 you’re right he did say that for the cameras. So maybe I was wrong or maybe Senna was the bigger man. In any case it was a big change from where they were.

    • @ridingdriving
      @ridingdriving 8 місяців тому +1

      well said....very well said

  • @RomanCityCobra14
    @RomanCityCobra14 2 роки тому +110

    They both know EXACTLY what happened.

    • @sef_halabi
      @sef_halabi 5 місяців тому +32

      steering colom failure

    • @surebrec5113
      @surebrec5113 4 місяці тому

      @@sef_halabi You're not going to convince the conspiritards by bringing facts like that into it.
      Bizarrely, it's more convenient for them to believe Frank Williams, who had the highest regard for Senna, to the point where he'd get rid of each and every other driver on his books, precisely to get him in one of his seats, and pay a ton of money in the process, just to murder him.
      Conspiracy theory nutjobs will see a conspiracy in everything.

    • @DimitriMoreira
      @DimitriMoreira 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@sef_halabi Steering column broke AFTER the crash, not before. Ergo, it couldn't have been the cause of the accident.

    • @GaryKari
      @GaryKari 4 місяці тому +8

      @@DimitriMoreira No-one ever crashed in that "curve" of Imola on F1. If they did, the have a mechanical failure of the car. All professional racing-drivers have said that. If you drive a flat-out corner streering a bit to the left, there is not a change you "lose a car" doing that. You only crash when there is something wrong in the mechanics.

    • @nixxxon18
      @nixxxon18 4 місяці тому

      @@DimitriMoreira Steering column malfunctioned before the crash, the onboards show it

  • @frankiekl87
    @frankiekl87 10 років тому +194

    Dont hate Prost, hate Ballastre. Prost helped make senna a legend, he fed off the competitiveness between them. And plus Senna wouldn't want you too. Good that both of them can ignore what hill said and say what has not been told.

    • @rodrigoeale
      @rodrigoeale 10 років тому +7

      ***** > Scoring more points is all he could do because he never had Senna's talent. Prost passed his life waiting for a thing break down in Senna 's car. Big deal! Senna was faster than he was, that's why he had more victories and a hundred times more poles. And fastest laps? hahaha, don't make me laugh! That's what I call an insignificant data! Fastest laps were acquired when pilots had better tyres in the END of the race: Prost' drive! Senna used to waste his tyres right in the beggining, to open edge! That was his style...Senna's pure drive!

    • @rodrigoeale
      @rodrigoeale 10 років тому +2

      ***** > Hahahaha. Less power with the same car? Don't be laughable, please. Stop lying one time in your miserable life too. They had both same cars. And percentage of wins must be considered only when they both had equal or similar cars, and not the entire career, because as you well know, Senna drove more bad cars in his career than Prost. Had he not died, he would have 2 times more wins and he would have had more titles also.

    • @rodrigoeale
      @rodrigoeale 10 років тому +3

      ***** > Just a big lie held by a sick person like yourself. The cars were identical. And yes, Prost drove more champion cars than Senna in career. He had cars to be champion in 83,84, 85,86,88,89, 90 and 93. Senna had champion cars only in: 88,89, 90 and 91. He was robbed by Prost and his french friend in 89, otherwise he would have won 100% conquers in championships. In 90 was pure justice for the robbery of 89.And your old weap about the points system in 88 bores me.

    • @douglasfulgencio
      @douglasfulgencio 10 років тому +3

      ***** > Senna was robbed in 1989, plain and simple. There was no such thing of more power of Senna's car engine. They both had identical cars. Its a big lie and big weep of losers like yourself...About the setup's issue, its another giant lie, because Senna and Prost were declared foes in 1989, and Prost would never allow Senna to use his setup. Senna won 6 races in 1989, and would have won seven, if wasn't for Ballestre's shamefull help.

    • @rodrigoeale
      @rodrigoeale 9 років тому +4

      ***** > " so called fans"? No problem at all.. Prost himself used to complain and cry that even the FRENCH FANS cheered for Senna, hahahahaha.

  • @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN
    @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN 10 років тому +753

    HERE'S WHAT KILLED SENNA.... Its all political like Aryton always said. Ron knows what happened, Alain knows what happened and most of all Adrian and Frank know exactly what happened. Sennas steering column showed EXTREME degradation during analysis and ultimately suffered a stress fracture on an illegal and poorly welded last-minute modification on Williams part before the race in an attempt to adjust the steering position more to Arytons liking. Even, Adrian.N would later concede in 1997 that the column was badly botched together. When the component inevitably broke this resulted in a complete steering loss. His blood will always be on Williams hands and anyone whose followed the Italian prosecutions evidence from both the original trial and the retrial knows this. The whole events following the accident also stink of a team trying to cover up an obvious case of gross negligent manslaughter. From the car being whisked away and hidden by the team to the black boxes mysteriously being taken away by Williams mechanics (contrary to FIA regulations) then losing crucial telemetry data and being deemed 'unreadable' when track marshals would testify under oath that the box was no more than "scratched". RIP Aryton, you deserved more justice.

    • @riobow1897
      @riobow1897 10 років тому +99

      100% correct...

    • @MEDEIROSJR007
      @MEDEIROSJR007 9 років тому +11

      Parabéns pela resposta.

    • @brav0wing
      @brav0wing 9 років тому +81

      Car failures happen almost all the time and can cause accidents. Some drivers get lucky and don't get hurt, some don't.
      Still, that does not excuse the FIA and the Imola organizers for not changing that corner after Gerhard Berger's horrible and brutal crash in Tamburello in 1989. Berger was very lucky to be alive.
      The truth is, never in the history of F1 a team was pursued from a legal point of view for killing a driver, until Senna.
      Pursuing the Williams team was political, from my point of view, to take away the total blame from the organizers and FIA who did a huge cock-up with safety in that particular corner.
      Even Senna complained about it and was worried about it after Berger's crash and warned that someone might die in that corner. The drivers saw the danger and FIA didn't.
      Are the engineers at Williams responsible for doing a shitty job on the column to blame? Of course but they share the blame with the Italian organizers and FIA.
      It's motorsport and its dangerous and that's the harsh truth everyone has to accept.

    • @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN
      @IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN 9 років тому +37

      brav0wing For me its far less to do with the safety of a particular corner and far more to do with a steering column in an F1 car being welded together outside of parc ferme rules with a high school welding kit. If you took your honda civic to the garage and the guy repaired your steering column in such a way that it severed on first use resulting in fatalities, then the garage owner would be looking at a gross negligent manslaughter charge.
      Hell yes, mototsport in dangerous. But this wasn't an unforeseeable brake failure or loss of traction into a corner. It was a failure on an ILLEGALLY modified component of the car which Adrian Newey described under oath as "a poor job". That's in a the legal world described as NEGLIGENCE.

    • @brav0wing
      @brav0wing 9 років тому +12

      IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN Of course and you are absolutely right but you just can't whisk away the responsibilities of FIA and the Italian organisers which seems that were ignored by everyone.
      I mean, they changed that corner AFTER a fatality, although they had a near miss 5 years before. You could say that if they did a good job with that column Senna would not have died and I agree.
      I say that if Senna would not have died that day, someone else would have had a serious crash in that corner eventually with serious health repercussions.
      What I'm saying is, part of the blame goes to the FIA and the Italian organisers as well for poor safety conditions, which translates in a poor job from their part.
      The drivers and Senna saw the dangers of that particular corner and no-one did anything to make it safer.

  • @chrisfleming443
    @chrisfleming443 6 років тому +52

    This man is one of the very greatest formula one team leaders of all time if not the greatest.
    I'd love to meet him.

    • @olgalawyerabogado9642
      @olgalawyerabogado9642 2 роки тому +4

      I agree, he is very calm and smart. It is a pleasure to listen him. Honestly, I prefer him a thousand times rather thatn other Ayrton had to deal with.

    • @Lutonboy
      @Lutonboy Рік тому +2

      Read his book. How he got into the business is pretty amazing.

    • @maxster10
      @maxster10 4 місяці тому +2

      Team leader who after Suzuka 89 defends one of his drivers and stands on his side but the other driver in the team just won them championship?! Dennis was too much on Senna's side in 88 and 89 season. Prost was neglected altough he outscored Senna in those two seasons.

  • @henriquemendes57
    @henriquemendes57 6 років тому +219

    Senna should not have left McLaren, today would be a great team leader, Willians took our greatest hero from us, I cried a lot on May 1, and today I miss, rest in peace Senna. we love you

    • @jakejbarnett
      @jakejbarnett 5 років тому +2

      Willians? Twat.

    • @cream2257
      @cream2257 5 років тому +12

      Vwbolfgti sim racing are you really gonna drag that one typo instead of facing the comment?

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 3 роки тому +12

      Agree, and I am rather sure that he was regretting already his decision to leave McLaren.
      Not based on the car performances but on the two teams. It's known that he struggled to fit in the new team while he had built a very special bond with Dennis and the whole McLaren team. Looking what happened next in history of F1 with Mika and Mercedes engines in McLaren we can say he for sure could have the chance to win one or more chapionships not long after he left the team.
      Besides the ultimate responsability for his death, we can say he finally paid with his life the pursuit of his 4th championship and the obsession to get the best possible conditions to compete. R.I.P. Ayrton

    • @housesports000
      @housesports000 3 роки тому +6

      @@zoebedford7014 no, Williams was dominant in ‘93 but after Senna had signed with Williams they made major body restrictions and they restricted technical assists to the car and this forced Williams to design a poorly made car that was redesigned after the ‘94 Spanish Grand Prix which was beneficial to Damon Hill cause unlike Senna he didn’t push the car to the limit obviously for reasons

    • @WaRLoKWYATT
      @WaRLoKWYATT 3 роки тому +2

      @@zoebedford7014 I find it asinine that you would blame the team for a fluke mechanical failure. It wasn't anyone but the FIA's fault for changing the regulations at the last minute to fuck over Williams and Ayrton. You people make me sick.

  • @ernestomartinez4090
    @ernestomartinez4090 7 місяців тому +55

    "They made the steering column different". Alain Prost. Say no more.

    • @joesaric1
      @joesaric1 5 місяців тому

      but why changing something that works ?

    • @ernestomartinez4090
      @ernestomartinez4090 5 місяців тому +6

      @@joesaric1 senna wanted the steering wheel closer to him. So they made the steering column different by adding a piece of "column". Clearly they added poorly that piece on the steering column. Thats why Senna was suddenly with no direction that day at Tamburello

    • @joesaric1
      @joesaric1 5 місяців тому +3

      @@ernestomartinez4090 a part such as the steering shaft must be made from one piece from the factory and not bolted on by a mechanic under the hood. After all, these are enormous vibrations that can break bad and cold welding.

    • @sef_halabi
      @sef_halabi 5 місяців тому

      @@joesaric1 but they clearly didn’t , and they did the easy thing.

    • @sef_halabi
      @sef_halabi 5 місяців тому

      @justifiedfreely6715 he was mid corner and he only had a track width to stop at best 12 meters from 300kph
      Edit: once he got to the track edge the car lift up.

  • @burtpanzer
    @burtpanzer 6 років тому +104

    The Williams team was entangled for many years in a court case with Italian prosecutors over manslaughter charges, ending in a guilty verdict for Patrick Head. The Italian Supreme Court, on 13 April 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control".

    • @maurosexy
      @maurosexy 4 роки тому +8

      Thats the truth.

    • @olgalawyerabogado9642
      @olgalawyerabogado9642 2 роки тому +1

      I guess no sentence is pronunnced unless the determination of the car failure was cleary probed . I also believe that if that steering column had to break, unnfortunately Tamburello curve was the closest and exigent of all of the Imola circuit for the steering column

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 2 роки тому

      So can Patrick Head be arrested if he goes to Italy?

    • @heremes8915
      @heremes8915 2 роки тому +2

      @@BobbyGeneric145 unfortunately no, since the verdict came in too late

    • @ridingdriving
      @ridingdriving 6 місяців тому +4

      the thing is, certainly very important people tried to manipulate the fundamentals saying senna's crash was due to aerodynamics and NOT a broken steering column

  • @jacobmanitowabie-cooke6141
    @jacobmanitowabie-cooke6141 Рік тому +18

    Damn you can see that Prost loves senna like he loves a brother.

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Місяць тому +2

      Lauda described Prost as "warm friendly and straightforward" There are very few people who would be as forgiving or generous towards erstwhile team mates on whom they had not been on best terms. Just consider Villeneuve and Pironi who would not even speak to each other after a breach of a pre race agreement.

  • @nleighton7110
    @nleighton7110 8 років тому +80

    Senna died doing what he loved. R.I.P

    • @iyzyz
      @iyzyz 5 років тому +7

      He loved racing not crashing.

    • @drazenbudis7881
      @drazenbudis7881 4 роки тому +1

      Yazeed Saber Crashing will always be part of racing, Senna knew it and he didn’t mind the risk in the slightest.
      So its correct to say that he really did died doing what he loved.

    • @ABlockBeats
      @ABlockBeats 2 роки тому +3

      No he did not. He died in a crash. Caused by Williams.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 Рік тому

      @@ABlockBeats Senna Died Crashing he loved doing that he did it well!

    • @joevarga5982
      @joevarga5982 7 місяців тому

      @@mylanmiller9656 Why are you such an ass?

  • @asacarrick1385
    @asacarrick1385 4 місяці тому +3

    National Geographic confirmed what was said at the time. A flaw in the weld of Ayrtons steering column which caused it to snap is the reason the best driver F1 has ever seen died.

    • @jimbosc
      @jimbosc 4 місяці тому +1

      I would say Clark, Schumacher and Hamilton were every bit as good as Senna. Wasn't until Senna had the best car that he dominated (and even then he had a heck of fight with Prost). Senna was great - no doubt about - it. For whatever reason his legend has gotten quite robust since his death. I'm OK with that - helps F1 grow and I am for that happening. We do have one driver that is working on being better than all those mentioned right now but let's see how it how he does after the new car/engine formula rolls out.

  • @Stephen.C.
    @Stephen.C. Рік тому +51

    The man who's job was to weld that steering column together, must have nightmares realising he's directly responsible for the death of Senna.

    • @MagicAyrtonforever
      @MagicAyrtonforever 7 місяців тому +9

      I would need therapy for the rest of my life if that was me 😞

    • @ridingdriving
      @ridingdriving 6 місяців тому +13

      he was told to do it by an engineer..they dont simply chop up a steering and weld it without due process

    • @leightonsteven7059
      @leightonsteven7059 5 місяців тому +1

      The set up was how Senna wanted it

    • @Stephen.C.
      @Stephen.C. 5 місяців тому +7

      @@leightonsteven7059 apart from the shoddy welding that broke easily

    • @leightonsteven7059
      @leightonsteven7059 4 місяці тому

      @justifiedfreely6715 why it’s true , senna wanted it changed, the rest is history

  • @azynkron
    @azynkron 4 місяці тому +2

    The fact that Williams was allowed to let the blackboxes disappear says it all. How is that not a criminal act?

  • @sef_halabi
    @sef_halabi 4 місяці тому +5

    if prost said its a steering column failer then what are those people in the comments are talking about

  • @FloridaManRacer
    @FloridaManRacer 9 років тому +12

    imo it was the steering column failure. you cant save a race car you cant steer....

  • @JG54206
    @JG54206 11 років тому +11

    there is no oversteer, ive seen plenty of footage, from plenty of angles and there was no correction made by Senna, nor did his car bottom out as hard as it had the lap before around Tamburello..... if you ask me, the seemingly abnormal steering movement (which wasn't there in the previous lap), Williams retrieving the black box and most likely wiping it out, and the shabby welding job all say to me that they knew they were to blame....

    • @mateuszmazurek7991
      @mateuszmazurek7991 2 роки тому

      they should not give the car to Williams
      in that case they would be convicted for manslaughter in due time

  • @vukrankovic6533
    @vukrankovic6533 8 років тому +45

    In Imola, May 01, 1994 Formula 1 died. Ayrton, you are the best F1 driver ever. Thank you for everything you did. R.I.P. dear Senna. Greetings from Serbia, we love you.

    • @jigglediggle29
      @jigglediggle29 7 років тому +6

      What a load of BS. F1 died because of Senna's death? Lay down ypur crackpipe and stop that nonsense.

    • @rafaelferreira7113
      @rafaelferreira7113 7 років тому +1

      vuk rankovic agree totally with you!

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 6 років тому +4

      F1 didn`t die with Ascari Clark, Rindt, Peterwen, Villeneuve or any of the other 22 drivers that died. It did not die with Senna.
      Some of these drivers were better than Senna.

    • @rafaelferreira7113
      @rafaelferreira7113 6 років тому +1

      Barrie Rodliffe that is not the opinion of Schumacher, Hamilton, Alonso, Mansel and many others. I prefer to go with who really undertand about the subject. They think Senna was the best. Remember the Schumacher himself told that.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 6 років тому +3

      Who is the proper Schumacher? Niki Lauda, Keke Rosberg and Sir Jackie stewart all rated Prost very highly, Niki Lauda and Rosberg in the same team as Prost, both new how good Prost was and for that matter still is. Stewart said Prost was a better driver than Senna, Rosberg said Prost is the best driver I ever raced against and he is bloody quick. I would think world champions who raced before Senna would know and understand the subject very well. Mansell once said that following Prost was like following the master.
      If you look at the team mates Prost had compared to the team mates Senna had, it is obvious Prost had better team mates most of the time including 5 world champions. Who did Senna have apart from de Angelis who left Lotus because of the favouritism given to Senna and Prost who left McLaren because of the favouritism given to Senna .

  • @karimkekhia4369
    @karimkekhia4369 4 місяці тому +2

    hi guys. just walked in on this and yes i absolutely agree with both ron and alain.
    i remember days and weeks after aurtons accident that various period had come up with various insane response to why he suddenly veered off the track in the way he did…and it was completely bonkers what was suggested as a possible coarse of this accident…both alain and ron were and are consummate professions in their roles and careers in motor sport and they know 100% what they are talking about and suggesting and i have every reason to stick with their theories.
    as we hear from this documentary, unfortunately it was so simple, and as devastatingly sad as it was…what happened with ayrton… as well as roland too…it was a very straightforward mechanical
    failure of their cars.

    • @frankwittwer3141
      @frankwittwer3141 4 місяці тому

      Roland had lost the front wing. That can you see and it is not comparable wit Ayrton's steering column failure.

  • @crusherbmx
    @crusherbmx 10 років тому +37

    Prost says that he has to be careful about what he says, and Ron Dennis blames a car problem then gets vague. Nobody wants to come out and say that somebody at Williams is to blame, but that's the implication. Both have been team owners, I can see why they don't want to go down that road.

    • @crusherbmx
      @crusherbmx 10 років тому +3

      ***** If Williams is to blame, then all team owners can now be blamed for accidents, and things would get stupid. Best to be vague and pass it off as a freak accident in a sport where death is a very real consequence to an accident.

    • @crusherbmx
      @crusherbmx 10 років тому

      ***** So true.

    • @dazburnside7340
      @dazburnside7340 10 років тому +4

      @john - obviously the crash killed senna the crash caused the suspension upright to break off and hit him in the head which killed him. If you watch the footage he is mid turn then all of a sudden the car goes straight which indicates a steering failure if there had been a puncture then the car would of oversteered 1 way then span the other way as he tried to correct it. It's blatantly obvious that the steering column broke before the crash but the black box was removed and damaged so the last moments of recorded data were gone same as the camera footage. This is a massive cover up that will probably never be fully opened out somebody somewhere has that data or footage that proves me right

    • @rohan9376
      @rohan9376 10 років тому +1

      well tell me einstein , did you know there was a trial do you know there was a 600 page report from the team of fractures mechanics metal urgists , there , centered around the steering column , you know them poindextors that do air crashes , o but hang on you are a aircraft designer race car driver ??

    • @dazburnside7340
      @dazburnside7340 10 років тому

      ***** because in all the videos they say a rear tyre failure

  • @vincentleech2156
    @vincentleech2156 4 місяці тому +1

    The simple fact that he instantly braked, instead of steering into the slid as all drivers said it all

  • @sef_halabi
    @sef_halabi 4 місяці тому +3

    i respect alan for saying that

  • @8-bitsteve500
    @8-bitsteve500 5 років тому +34

    Alain nailed it.. the steering column weld failed and that tragically lead to the crash and then pure bad luck for the suspension arm on the wheel to hit him in the head, but if it hadn't broken, then he'd still be with us today. Tragic and Williams (mainly Patrick Head and Frank Williams) are to blame for his loss. RIP Ayrton.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 3 роки тому +3

      You are a fool the Steering Colum was modified because Senna wanted it done, There fore Senna was as much to blame if there was a problem with it as any body. But then again Senna's style was to blame someone else for his problems that was normal!!

    • @8-bitsteve500
      @8-bitsteve500 3 роки тому +12

      @@mylanmiller9656 Calling someone a fool because they have a different opinion? Well, I guess there's no point even discussing this with you, bye.

    • @heremes8915
      @heremes8915 2 роки тому +3

      @@mylanmiller9656 senna wanted but didn't know the engineers we're such incompetent fools

    • @Account_CB
      @Account_CB Рік тому +5

      @@mylanmiller9656 Most idiotic statement ive ever heard!!
      So i suppose if you took your car to a mechanic & asked them to fix your brakes but they screwed it up & you died...your family would be blaming you for your death & not the garage?? 🤔🤫🙄

    • @Tg18460
      @Tg18460 3 місяці тому

      @@mylanmiller9656there’s no blame on Senna in terms of the steering column, he made a request and it was accepted and the responsibility for the poor workmanship and ultimate fracture of the column lies on whoever welded it and Patrick Head

  • @meerkatandpug
    @meerkatandpug 9 років тому +8

    Welding a steering column at the circuit was not a good idea. On the other hand, Senna must have known that Williams had done this..

    • @Troylito
      @Troylito 8 років тому +7

      +John Smith Senna REQUESTED that the steering wheel be modified.

    • @meerkatandpug
      @meerkatandpug 8 років тому +8

      Troy Davila Yes, but I think he assumed it would be done at the factory and flown out, which was standard practice..

    • @deadmanwalking1930
      @deadmanwalking1930 2 роки тому +1

      @@meerkatandpug But Senna would have still been told that, but they all went ahead with it.

  • @TMJ32
    @TMJ32 7 років тому +25

    The onboard video shows a textbook steering column failure. He was into the corner and then suddenly the wheels snapped straight.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 7 років тому +2

      The wheels snapped straight because Senna was counter steering to compensate for the loss of traction, when the rear of the car bottomed out!
      When the car bottomed Senna's car lost all down force and also lost control!

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому +1

      @@mylanmiller9656 If that were the case every car would have flown off the track during high speed corners.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 5 років тому +1

      @@JoRgEChavez-to2xd There was a bump in the Corner, Senna's Car bottomed because the Tires were not up to temp because it was too early in the race. The reason the other drivers never had a problem was they were not over speeding there tires like Senna was!

    • @noobednatherium4082
      @noobednatherium4082 4 роки тому +1

      @@mylanmiller9656 wow, youre an idiot, the steering column broke causing the accident, get a brain

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 4 роки тому

      @@noobednatherium4082 prove what your saying the steering broke when the car hit the wall!

  • @Aramis_Production
    @Aramis_Production Рік тому +6

    I was an avid McLaren F1 fan, even so that this marked my life. Two major events still give me chills today when I remember: 1. Senna's death and 2. Mika Hakkinen's retirement.
    I was devastated as a fan and for me these two events were the major turning points in the history of McLaren. Mika's departure was the last chapter of McLaren supremacy, after that nothing was the same. Ron Dennis was not the same guy, you could see how he tried with Kimi but Kimi was not Mika...

    • @fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044
      @fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 4 місяці тому

      ????? McLaren LITERALLY won tons of races and even a championship (with Hamilton) after Hakkinen's retirement. Hakkinen was one of my favorite drivers, but your statement is factually wrong. Embarrassingly wrong.

    • @Aramis_Production
      @Aramis_Production 4 місяці тому

      Hamilton was a sellout, give me a break

    • @fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044
      @fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 4 місяці тому

      @@Aramis_Production Your response doesn't discount the FACTS. Do you have a head injury? You don't seem to be thinking clearly.

    • @MrPrajitura
      @MrPrajitura 4 місяці тому +2

      Bruh, you serious? Kimi was a beast in his McLaren years but the car kept failing him. Kimi literally almost won 2003 with a 2002-spec car, as Newey and McLaren stumbled the 03 car.

    • @Aramis_Production
      @Aramis_Production 4 місяці тому

      @@MrPrajitura Prietene, tu nu erai nascut cand Kimi era la McLaren si eu injuram in fiecare duminica cand i se strica masina.Dar. Kimi nu a fost la nivelul lui Mika niciodata. Mika era perfect

  • @marcosfrancisco7046
    @marcosfrancisco7046 3 роки тому +4

    Prost realmente sentiu a morte de Senna , apesar de na pista serem inimigos declarado, com certeza foi isso o que ele falou que aconteceu com o carro de Senna naquela corrida maldita onde teve 2 mortes e não cancelaram a corrida.

  • @tombukto
    @tombukto 5 місяців тому +11

    The steering column issue was the final end in a chain of causes that ultimately finished in the crash. The first issue was FIA taking out all the technology that made cars more stable and not diminishing the speed after doing so. That made Williams have to reinvent it's car from 93 to 94. Secondly, after Barrichello's and Ratznberger's accidents, it was clear that Imola was not safe and the GP should be cancelled. Third, the Bennetton team was cheating and put a lot of pressure on Senna, which pushed him to take even more risks (which he shouldn't). So there is a lot of responsibles for the accident, FIA is the major one, in my opinion.

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes. Benetton occupied the FIA love space now taken up by RBR. Ferrari also had sone good special FIA years with planks, acceptable tolerances etc,but no one died rip Ayrton

    • @lilianakarapas9112
      @lilianakarapas9112 4 місяці тому

      The whole episode is like a Greek tragedy.

  • @markuseggstein8349
    @markuseggstein8349 3 роки тому +1

    I agree 100% with both!

  • @CoughingPig
    @CoughingPig 10 років тому +49

    There's no way such an experimented driver would slip in a flat-out corner like that, even Alesi told us so ! Especially when steering wheel was bouncing all around a couple of laps ago and knowing that the team had made 'adjustments to it the night before the race' too odd to be only odd.

    • @dazburnside7340
      @dazburnside7340 10 років тому +15

      On the footage you see the steering wheel move about in all direction at all angles the steering column was fucked and that's what caused the crash definitely

    • @CoughingPig
      @CoughingPig 10 років тому +2

      ***** He had no choice to keep going on because of the two prior dnfs and a chance to bounce back in the championship (as well as the high Williams expectancies back then...especially with Senna in). Anyway everyone at Williams that day knew the stakes and denied everything once the shit had hit the fan and blamed the driver somehow.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 6 років тому +2

      Didn`t Damon Hill drive for williams? He said that Senna was trying very hard and maybe too hard on cold tyres. How many experienced drivers have gone off on that corner? from memory there have been a few.

    • @TheMomotarosu18
      @TheMomotarosu18 6 років тому +2

      Damon didn't have Ayrton's car though, he would have no idea that the steering column was broken. Even if you watch the onboard you can see that he is still turning when the wheels straighten up.

    • @stewartgrindlay9760
      @stewartgrindlay9760 5 років тому +1

      Barrie Rodliffe if that was the case all the drivers would have went off after the SC was brought in. They had cleared a lap and a bit. More than enough to bring the tyres up to temp

  • @AllahAkbr666
    @AllahAkbr666 6 місяців тому +5

    Senna himself insisted on changing the steering bar, the williams crew did not want to do so, but Frank told them to do anything Senna would order.

    • @leightonsteven7059
      @leightonsteven7059 5 місяців тому +2

      @justifiedfreely6715it’s true what he says

    • @raymundomartinez7469
      @raymundomartinez7469 4 місяці тому +4

      100% and it’s a stated fact that Senna himself had requested for the steering column to be modified since there was so many issues with the car . The problem is that someone on the team did a half ass job and as a result we lost one of if not the greatest driver of all time.

    • @chrisroberts5668
      @chrisroberts5668 4 місяці тому

      Pity nobody said no to doing any welding on the steering column at the time, and tell Ayrton it would need to be a properly fabricated one from the factory and we can have it done for the next race, but this was senna maybe nobody wanted to speak up against him.

  • @MrNiceKnife
    @MrNiceKnife 5 років тому +14

    A truly tragic Imola GP. We lost the greatest ever since Jim Clark.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 2 роки тому

      @@zoebedford7014 Senna too intense? surely not the great Senna. he made mistakes of course but that is to be human. Senna obviously cared about other drivers or he might have pushed Prost into the pit wall or crashed into the back of Prost's car at high speed. Oh wait?
      One thing I do say is that Senna could have killed himself or other drivers before but when he killed himself it was an accident and not Senna's fault, another thing I will say is that Senna before he died became more concerned about safety in F 1. he talked to Berger and Prost about it.
      Senna made Prost an enemy for whatever reason but after Prost retired he wanted Prost as a friend.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 2 роки тому

      Guess when Senna said "Alan we miss you" it was in 1994 or after Prost retired.

  • @Minx5892
    @Minx5892 6 років тому +6

    The fact that the tv camera failed for a split second cost us the answer. I personally think the steering broke. I don't see how even with cold tyres you can skid off that far, he didn't even seem to understeer, rather turn into the wall. I don't blame Williams however, why should they be blamed for something natural in Motorsport? A car failure? That happens all the time.

    • @rahulmalik51296
      @rahulmalik51296 6 років тому +6

      FIA would have the onboard till the moment of impact ,but they will never show it

  • @tusb0l
    @tusb0l 2 роки тому +1

    What film were these interviews from? IIRC there were a few other drivers/ f1 figures who also had their opinions shared. Thanks

  • @macury6159
    @macury6159 3 роки тому +3

    A f1_acabou .nesse dia .mas você Ayrton Senna da Silva é eterno . sempre campeão dos campeões
    Não tinha mais adversários e os circuitos estavam pequenos pra você! Foi correr com os deuses em outra dimensão .Ayrton Senna da Silva o eterno campeão dos campeões
    A f1_acabou .the end day f1_ never more !

  • @ricardodepaiva6195
    @ricardodepaiva6195 3 роки тому +3

    Tanto o Prost quanto o Ron Dennis tem razão.

  • @chikitof1
    @chikitof1 10 років тому +5

    it was steering column faliure for sure i can tell by the way the car reacted when it went right while Ayrton steered left.I had a bmw m3 in 1992 i had changed the entire steering mechanism and the mechanic didnt do a good job because the parts that join the steering column to what ever controlled the wheels fell apart while i was waiting for a traffic light ..When the light turned green i heard something go blingg and the steering wheel was lite and the car was going to the left on its own and i tried steering to the right but like i said it (steering wheel) was lite and when i noticed i hit the breaks and the steering wheel was spinning on its own while the nuts fell off of what ever was holding it in place..

  • @Carlos_RodriguesS2
    @Carlos_RodriguesS2 5 місяців тому +4

    BS! Everyones know that was the columm of the sterrimg wheel that broked.

  • @seamusblack5876
    @seamusblack5876 4 місяці тому +3

    Steering column bent on lap 6 and failed on Lap 7

  • @orndorf
    @orndorf 11 років тому +4

    Pretty obvious the steering broke as from the moment the car veers off it never deviates from its line till it hits the wall.

  • @janbonsema5888
    @janbonsema5888 4 місяці тому +1

    a jerry-rigged steering column did him in. And it's all on tape, Ayrton's on board camera ran until the moment of impact. A few seconds before you could see how his front wheels centered in the middle of a high speed curve, Tamburelo. I saw 2 or 3 replays of that footage, together with many millions of viewers, a few minutes after the crash. After that, that tape disappeared forever.

    • @qwertqwert99999
      @qwertqwert99999 Місяць тому

      Eddy Baker, he was the tv-director in imola , stated in court, he switched to another camera, therefore none of footage exists.

    • @janbonsema5888
      @janbonsema5888 27 днів тому

      @@qwertqwert99999 did you see that on board footage that I'm talking about, yourself

    • @qwertqwert99999
      @qwertqwert99999 27 днів тому

      ​@@janbonsema5888 the only camera I got to watch ended exactly 1 sec before impact.

  • @kerrykelaher2607
    @kerrykelaher2607 4 місяці тому +1

    " steering broke !" " senna turned left ( but car went straight )

    • @janbonsema5888
      @janbonsema5888 4 місяці тому +1

      that was recorded by his on board camera. Why don't more people point to that definite proof ? the tape disappeared, a bit of a shame but the big guys had to cover themselves up.

  • @lilianakarapas9112
    @lilianakarapas9112 4 місяці тому +1

    Ron Denis had to choose his words carefully, but it is clear that car killed Ayrton Senna. It simply failed. I am sure like me everyone wishes Ayrton had not gone to Williams but stayed with McLaren. That was his misfortune that they suddenly changed the rules just as he was getting into the car Prost won a championship the year before. So, if Senna had any bad luck, it was just that. The timing was wrong. Having said that I feel sure no one wanted this to happen at Williams. I am glad to know Senna & Prost made up & were good friends before he died. Senna is immortal & forever young but it would have been better to see him win many more races & championships. Remain alive & with his family & friends. It was a tragic end for such a gifted natural racer.

  • @Faisal__1998
    @Faisal__1998 5 років тому +11

    1989.. F1 World Driver Championship is Balestre..

    • @SenseiDenax
      @SenseiDenax 5 років тому +3

      Senna used stewarts to re-start his car...

    • @livingbeing1113
      @livingbeing1113 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, and 1990 is Prost's then.

  • @ysgol3
    @ysgol3 6 років тому +4

    Damon Hill, Sennas teammate of course in 1984, in his wonderful autobiography argues very powerfully and IMHO persuasively that Senna's fatal crash was caused by a combination of aerodynamic problems because the car's tyre pressures had fallen due to going slowly behind a safety car for several laps, a bump on the tight line into Tamburello which Senna insisted on taking, and Senna simply pushing too hard to stay ahead of Schumacher just behind him, who he believed was driving a car which breached F1 regulations.
    Damon particularly demolishes the 'broken steering column' theory, His book is definitely an essential read for anyone interested in what happened that day, and is brilliant in many other ways too.
    BTW Senna was so so unlucky, he was killed not by the impact - his body below his head was undamaged - but by the horrendous bad luck that a broken spike of metal from the suspension somehow pierced his helmet and his head. Had he walked away, like others who crashed there did, the whole incident would of course have long been forgotten.

  • @perman66
    @perman66 2 роки тому +2

    I read that the crash itself didn't kill him..the right front tire flew off and hit him in the head. Is that true??

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 2 роки тому +1

      It was part of the suspension which hit his helmet, it was still attached to the wheel and tyre so quite a bit of weight

    • @peterjohnson8935
      @peterjohnson8935 6 місяців тому +3

      The wheel slammed his head back into the head rest and also part of the suspension pierced his helmet. There was also another piece of the suspension that penetrated the visor of the helmet. Fracture to base of the skull and massive heamoraging from the two severe wounds from the suspension parts. He lost nearly five litres of blood in a short space of time. He basically was killed the instant he hit the wall.

  • @lolhalse
    @lolhalse 12 років тому +3

    I was referring to the posters in the comments section as idiots, MrKinghit. Not the people talking in the video. Ron Dennis and Alain Prost are legends of the sport.

  • @lordsuch5762
    @lordsuch5762 10 років тому +4

    Whenever I see the car footage, post crash , I can see what looks like a large fracture on the left side of the tub next to the dashboard .If that is what I am saying it is, then , on impact , the tub would have deformed longitudinally . This would have put forces on the steering column in a split second for which it was nt designed !

  • @matthewdrake9699
    @matthewdrake9699 4 місяці тому

    I miss these great characters.. Senna, Maradona, Seve, Best, the list goes on… where are the characters these days…

  • @MrJoromekiq1
    @MrJoromekiq1 2 роки тому +3

    Because of poorly managed contract negotiations Williams lost Mansell and Prost, and then Senna died. In the space of 2 years, Williams lost the 3 best drivers, which left Schumacher with no real competition

  • @andrewashmore8000
    @andrewashmore8000 4 роки тому +17

    Regarding the hole in the helmet visor , while giving some credence to maybe a bullet, if that was the case the bullet would have been found by surgical staff no mention of that ever existed. Despite any external intrusions by foreign objects Senna hit a concrete wall sideways it seems at approx 130 mph withno barrel roll or cushioning to scrub off any speed whatsoever. Live tv commentators knew this was very serious instantly and compared the crash to Rolland the previous day it would be almost impossible to survive. The weight of Senna head with helmet on moving relative to his strapped in body was eneough to kill him alone , combine that with also probably hitting concrete wall , and possibly the wheel also hitting him. He didnt stand a chance regardless of anything piercing the helmet. If only there was a tyre barrier there he may have survived.

    • @maurosexy
      @maurosexy 4 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately we do not have a video that shows this crash details. I agree with all. But Id like to see it.

    • @Yukanhayt-Mhenow
      @Yukanhayt-Mhenow Рік тому +3

      I saw his helmet after the crash it looked like the sharp ends of the control arm had pierced it.

    • @andrewashmore8000
      @andrewashmore8000 5 місяців тому +2

      @justifiedfreely6715 senna was a smart man , he knew the risks , however he couldn't outsmart the ringmaster , who had decided a different team needed to win , Benetton were the new source of money and it was there time to win , Senna smelt a rat , with illegal traction control , and was driving over the limit in order to win , if this was Niki Lauder he would have backed off , and waited for the following season to win , unfortunately Senna went balls to the wall , and it caught him out. But yes if only was a tyre wall there , and better suspension design with teethers he may have made it.

    • @JohnFerguson-pp5hc
      @JohnFerguson-pp5hc 4 місяці тому +1

      You both talk utter rubbish

    • @dannycolverson6944
      @dannycolverson6944 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't talk utter nonsense. It was a freak accident due to the wishbone piercing the helmet. Without this he would have walked away easily, there were no other injuries. You know nothing about crashes, nor tyre barriers either.

  • @kayejeyeracer
    @kayejeyeracer 12 років тому +2

    Please folks look at the firewall inside the cockpit it truly shows the white firewall as the steering column is starting to break! It comes down in his hands, he pushes it back up while turning which in itself was a superhuman feat in desperation he was fighting for his life at the end. Even when the car bottomed out you would still have some type of wheel turn but the car didn't even react while he was fighting the BROKEN steering column! Go 2 him testing the williams earlier before season

  • @individual1977
    @individual1977 2 роки тому +5

    A old friend who used to work with carbon fiber told me if dust gets in the drying process(back in the day at least) the carbon fiber loses strength. Apparently the steering assembly on Senna's car
    was part carbon fiber and was involved in a repair during the Imola weekend. Many have speculated the assembly broke due to contamination.

  • @martinmhs4173
    @martinmhs4173 6 років тому +3

    I live in grove. The village Williams are based at. I took my stepson to an open day event about 2 years ago. I spoke to a member of staff there an I think they all must have an obligation to say that a slow right rear puncture caused the accident. After he said this, I knew there was no point even saying anything to him. He was younger than me. I was 9 when it happend an had also been to the museum in Didcot, where they were based in 94 to see the cars. I looked in the cockpit of the probably 93 car painted in the rothmans scheme. I'ts a memory that haunts me.

    • @alexchiddle5091
      @alexchiddle5091 6 років тому +2

      Martin Rowlands hope, broken steering rod. Williams nicked the data ffsk and gave the people in charge a load of stir data.. we know it broke

  • @dragondaze
    @dragondaze 3 роки тому +4

    Hey Ron, What happened to the telemetry box? How did it get so damaged in the accident, considering the placement of it? The damage it had sure didn't look like it happened from the crash! Just asking for a friend...

  • @safakirveli5482
    @safakirveli5482 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for your documentary on the suspicious/intentional death of Senna, the most honest driver in F1. It's really frustrating when Damon Hill says "I don't remember, I don't know" to every question asked by the prosecutor, "we never talked about the car" despite being with Senna many times, and the williams team members use unclear statements in court. It is certain that Williams and their defenders are hiding something from the public... Senna already shows from his facial expressions that he was uncomfortable with many things when he was in the williams team. Senna also said that the vehicles would be very dangerous if the traction control system was banned. With Ratzenberger's death in qualifying, the race could have been cancelled. The 89 season title was unfairly taken away. Senna has repeatedly criticized F1's bosses for being political... It was also revealed that although the traction control system was banned in the 94 and 95 seasons, some deceitful drivers used it. Those who killed Senna were the ones who put the "worn and thinned steering column" there. Senna is a huge loss to the motorsport community. If he had lived, we could watch less political races today... I can't imagine a motorsport organization headed by Senna, it would be great. Senna forever...sempre..
    www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-teammate-says-schumacher-cheated-in-1994/415378/

  • @PeterKKraus
    @PeterKKraus 5 років тому +4

    ...caused by cheap welded 2 piece extended steering column instead of a 1 piece longer shaft.

  • @10DKJUMP
    @10DKJUMP 9 років тому +9

    Just looking at the video evidence of the crash from Senna's car it is very obvious that the steering column failed at the moment which the car understeers and veers to the right at Tamburello.
    The causes of Senna's accident are plain to see, the theories of downforce or chasing Schumacher are total distractions from the plain facts. There is plenty of evidence during qualifying of Senna driving through Tamburello and the videos show the steering wheel moving in a fixed rotation proving that it wouldn't have moved down so much unless it was broken as during the point of leaving the track.
    Ron and Alain are saying this as clearly as possible to extent that commercial reality of F1 permits them to. No question that steering column failure caused Senna's fatal crash.

  • @Feuerbasis
    @Feuerbasis 11 років тому +2

    Steering column was about the break before Tamburello.
    Watch the wheel being all wobbly before...and it just snapped in Tamburello.
    Easy and fatal as that.

  • @pierovittori1076
    @pierovittori1076 3 роки тому +2

    As a Ferrari fan I always 'hated' Ron, sportly speaking of course.
    O judged him a cold and merciless reckoner.
    Well I had to change my mind after seeing this interview. Profession is profession, and he'll keep showing his iron coated external side to press and opponents. But I do believe the man has a big heart too and deserves my absolute respect. Unlike Frank.

    • @chakko007
      @chakko007 3 роки тому +3

      Dunno about that. Ron Dennis always seemed pretty cold, arrogant, and complacent to me. Also in this interview.

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 4 місяці тому

      @@chakko007 maybe it's you lacking a bit of empathy

    • @chakko007
      @chakko007 4 місяці тому

      @@pierovittori1076 Maybe it's you lacking knowledge of human nature.

  • @ProjUltraZ
    @ProjUltraZ 9 років тому +10

    I believe it's "Michael in the Benetton" Michael Schumacher. And he was not in pursuit of MS at the moment as he was leading the race and MS was right behind (and witnessed the accident). He was in pursuit of Michael on points, having scored zero pts in the first two races and MS winning. keep fighting Schumi.

    • @snappycruise
      @snappycruise 6 років тому +6

      Scumacher was cheating with Benetton. And he was still behind. Btw, Senna knew since the previous Grand prix that they were cheating, but...Frank Williams refuse to say anything. WHY?!

    • @TheKestevon
      @TheKestevon 6 років тому +3

      snappycruise He cheated for other 6 titles as well.

    • @joshimura1995
      @joshimura1995 6 років тому +6

      Salty senna fans are always a pleasure to watch!

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому +2

      @@snappycruise Because the whole of the F1 community is in on it. They needed to get rid of Senna so that they could fix every every season without having to worry about him fucking up their plans. The FIA is the worst thing to have happened to motorsports as well as the automotive industry. The death of Dale Earnhardt was exactly the same. Both were premeditated murders for the sake of monetary profit.

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому

      Fuck Schumacher. He got what he rightfully deserves.

  • @elabel07
    @elabel07 10 років тому +16

    Desabafo!!! Não entendo o argumento de algumas pessoas quando dizem que os pilotos elegem o Senna como o melhor só porque ele está Morto!!!...é surreal este argumento.....tem vários ótimos pilotos mortos...para citar só um e dos melhores, com morte "recente" e em um acidente super dramático = Gilles Villeneuve.....A inveja mata...gostem ou não...ele foi eleito o melhor de todos os tempos pelos entendidos (pilotos, engenheiros, chefes de equipe, repórteres, etc - atuais e anteriores)....Se você vê de outra maneira...Legal!!!!...Ótimo....Até porque, concordo, discutir quem é o melhor de todos os tempos é muito, mas muito complicado....é como discutir o sexo dos anjos....Tem o melhor eleito pelos "entendidos" e o melhor para cada um de nós....Só digo que se é para argumentar....usem argumentos mais concretos e respeitosos...simples assim!.....Antes de dizer que ele foi eleito só porque está morto, vão pesquisar direito cada uma das corridas (e as classificações também), mas vai fundo.....aproveite e verifique, quais os pilotos que o tinham e o tem como um ídolo máximo..e quantos destes pilotos se inspiram nele ainda hoje (após 20 anos) ....Antes de morrer ele já era um "mito" (e não era devido a manipulação de mídia - era pelos Shows!!)....

    • @rodrigoeale
      @rodrigoeale 10 років тому +3

      Mas é isso aí mesmo que você disse. É inveja e falta de argumentos.

    • @rafaelferreira7113
      @rafaelferreira7113 7 років тому +3

      La. Bert pura inveja, se fosse assim já teriam dito que o Alemão foi o melhor! Na verdade, devemos observar apenas a opinião de quem entende do assunto, ou seja, os pilotos! E falando nisso, tem um vídeo no UA-cam onde a maioria dos grandes pilotos atuais, e muitos dos antigos, como Nick Lauda, Alonso, Hakinnen, Kimmi Raikonnen e até mesmo o Schumacher, Barrichello, Coulthard dizem que o melhor de todos os tempos foi o Senna. Qualquer imbecil pode ver isto nos vídeos.

    • @Steelintel
      @Steelintel 7 років тому

      @La. Bert
      Senna era muito carismático, mas isso não faz dele melhor do que os outros.
      www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/26521267
      Fangio, Clark, Vettel, e Schumi são PELO MENOS tão bons quanto ele.

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому

      @@Steelintel As estatísticas não são tudo e costumam mentir desde que são facilmente manipuladas. Não se esqueça que a FIA sempre foi totalmente contra Senna porque ele não era europeu e eles sempre querem um campeão europeu branco.

    • @rafaelottoschneidewind4699
      @rafaelottoschneidewind4699 2 роки тому

      Ignora os tais comentários, vileuneuve está morto e nimg7em fala isso dele, a inveja ao Senna é absurda o Brasileiro não consegue entender que o Brasil fez o maior jogador e futebol e o maior piloto de todos os tempos, simples assim o resto é conversa fiada pra causar

  • @pedemeyer
    @pedemeyer 5 років тому +4

    Ron..., this guy will say whatever it takes to come out on top!
    Make no mistake about that!

  • @michaeljamieson3582
    @michaeljamieson3582 4 місяці тому

    Ways to say it was the steering column without saying it was the steering column.

  • @balloakz9857
    @balloakz9857 10 років тому +30

    Senna was an outsider, F1 in those days was very political. Everyone on the grid was scared of Senna because he was a real threat and extremely good at psyching out the opposition. Just watch the interview with Senna, Burgher and Mansell and see how Mansell agrees with what he has to say about Prost and it'll give you a clue. Prost was good Senna was better. IMO.

    • @balloakz9857
      @balloakz9857 10 років тому

      In My Opinion......

    • @akseli9
      @akseli9 10 років тому +2

      ***** Very long comment but very true and very interesting.

    • @Pantha242
      @Pantha242 10 років тому +6

      ***** Yes, if all points had counted, Prost would have won by 11 points in 1988, clinching the title with the win in Adelaide, and in 1989 he would have clinched the title with his 3rd place in Spain, and would already have been 4 time World Champion before the fateful race in Japan. And there would have been no arguments about who was better :P
      Have to disagree with you about Prost having 5 champion team-mates though, Mansell and Hill only became champions AFTER being his team-mate ;)
      But the only time he lost championships to his teammates, both times it was due to losing points because of the points system. In 1984 when he lost by half a point, it was because he only got half points for the shortened Monaco GP, and in 1988 it was because of the stupid 'dropping points' system :/

    • @JezebelBoy88
      @JezebelBoy88 10 років тому +7

      ***** It's not about passion. Or being greatest to watch. Usually it's wiser to drive with your head than with passion. Like in Monaco or Monza in 1988. And in the long run only the points matter, not the style how you got them. Like Fangio in Nürburgring 1957. He stopped pushing and taking risks immediately after passing for the lead. Because, what's the point of pushing on that position at the end of the race while leading?

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 7 років тому +4

      People had a good reason to be afraid of Senna He run into every body that ever tried to pass him! Both Prost and Schumacher were better drivers than Senna! Both were a lot better at setting up a car and they were fast with out being hard on a car!

  • @sef_halabi
    @sef_halabi 4 місяці тому

    how hard is it to weld a steering column ?

    • @frankwittwer3141
      @frankwittwer3141 4 місяці тому

      On track side verry hard. and the used to diffrent diameters too...

  • @AussieClogWog1955
    @AussieClogWog1955 4 місяці тому +1

    Surprising to see all this speculation and rumour persisting, even though Ayrton's team mate at the time, Damon Hill, had the most plausible explanation for his accident corroborating the outcome of multiple court cases that there was no failure with the car itself. Damon observed that the car had a tendency to bottom out in an uneven section of the high speed tamburello curve which Damon therefore avoided. Ayrton did not, and due to cold tyres after the restart his car bottomed out on this section causing him to lose steering long enough to leave the track. It was proven in court based on facts and telemetry data that the steering column broke as a result of the accident, not before the accident.

  • @yuna-1971
    @yuna-1971 Рік тому +1

    The G.O.A.T

  • @MrBusunglueck
    @MrBusunglueck 12 років тому +8

    the steering column broke

  • @powersliding
    @powersliding 5 років тому +19

    the greatest cover up ever of the worst motorsport mistake ever

  • @Troylito
    @Troylito 9 років тому +4

    What was the point of that video and those interviews? They said the same things everyone has said since May 1, 1994. The fact is nobody knows precisely what happened. The telemetry says what Senna did as he tried to control the car before it hit the wall but not even a court case proved anything. Steering column breakage? Low tire pressure? The car bottoming losing downforce? Was it the car or was Senna being too conservative because of his mindset that morning. Watch the video of the guy in his car before the race. He's scared. He doesn't have the look of a ready to go Senna. To me he was in no condition to drive a race car that morning.

    • @wiredsk8r
      @wiredsk8r 8 років тому

      +Troy Davila shit driving

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 8 років тому

      Flipping heck
      How many drivers have gone off at Tamburello?
      Why did Senna go off, was it the steering column or was it the fact the tyres were not fully warm or even the loss of downforce from hitting the bump.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 8 років тому

      Flip H
      Patrese, Piquet and Berger just to name three. Notice they are all top drivers.

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому

      @@barrierodliffe4155 And none of them were remotely close to Senna in terms of will, skill, and knowledge.

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому

      Many people know, but they say things to intentionally create doubt where it shouldn't exist in order to cover their own asses.

  • @peanut71968
    @peanut71968 6 років тому +9

    There are those who may have considered Senna a prima-donna. Perhaps due to Senna being a religious man or due to his quest for equality in sport and recognition as his roots were essentially that of a colonist to a former European power country. Or perhaps he offended some because of his talents and subsequently his suggestions regarding the handling of the race car 🏎.
    People get lazy and irritated 😤 when they believe someone has stepped on their toes, even if the intent was not malicious. All people are guilty of this, but especially those who believe for what ever reason they are of the elite blood lines and therefore have a license to kill.

  • @Saidakine
    @Saidakine 2 роки тому +2

    The steering column broke. Aryton had modified the steering column to his liking and it failed. Telemetry shows he braked very quickly but no steering correction made from the man with the quickest reflexes in racing.

    • @marcmillis3867
      @marcmillis3867 4 місяці тому

      Physics 101 : a scratch will divide by 100 the force necessary to cut the column , exactly as in glass, you make a scratch & it becomes easy to brake the glass. Adrian newey was supposed to go to jail for this gross incompetence causing death.

    • @frankwittwer3141
      @frankwittwer3141 4 місяці тому

      "Aryton had modified the steering column" bull shit, Ayrton asked to...

  • @lolhalse
    @lolhalse 12 років тому +4

    Indeed it did. But did it break during the corner, causing the accident, or did it break as a result of the contact with the wall? That was never determined.

    • @noobednatherium4082
      @noobednatherium4082 4 роки тому +2

      WOW! It was determined, it was williams fault and the fia's fault, it broke causing the accident, we both know that

    • @lolhalse
      @lolhalse 4 роки тому +1

      It was? We do? Yikes. You wouldn't happen to have a credible source to back up your claims by any chance, would you?

    • @noobednatherium4082
      @noobednatherium4082 4 роки тому +1

      @@lolhalse Yeh actually, I would, watch the series, 'the death of Ayrton Senna, what natgeo did not tell' there's more than enough proof its Williams fault

    • @noobednatherium4082
      @noobednatherium4082 4 роки тому +1

      Ill send you the link if you cant find it, watch all five parts

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 Рік тому

      @@noobednatherium4082 That is one man's opinion
      One said it was caused by the broken column, the other said the column broke when he hit the wall. In Sennas race history a Crash was not anything new.
      it was never proven. That was the third race of the season and Senna had Crashed out of the other two.

  • @AceDeclan
    @AceDeclan 12 років тому +1

    Amazing! Nice. Good to see Prost again and he is not carefull of what he says lol.

  • @barrierodliffe4155
    @barrierodliffe4155 7 років тому +6

    At the speed they go through here it takes very little to upset the car, tyres not warm or loss of downforce or a failure on the car.
    there has been a suggestion that the removal of electronics caused the accident, that is just silly.

  • @nelsonbarbosa8503
    @nelsonbarbosa8503 6 років тому +2

    AYRTON SENNA, THE BEST (TINA TURNEY).

  • @googlreviews7813
    @googlreviews7813 3 роки тому +19

    Williams legacy is not how many championships they won but killing best driver in F1 history.

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 3 роки тому +1

      Just as well that Williams did not kill any driver and the best driver in history is not something that anyone can claim. At most Senna would be one of the best but there were better drivers even when Senna was racing.

    • @florencemodina6293
      @florencemodina6293 Рік тому +1

      ​@@barrierodliffe4155 senna is the best.

    • @bigdeal6336
      @bigdeal6336 Рік тому

      ​@@florencemodina6293i dont feel it's possible to pick 1 driver to be "The Best" Grand Prix driver I'd say Juan Manuel Fangio, Alberto Ascari are definitely top of the list without a doubt Senna is one of the greatest of all time but with different aspects of the evolving world of F1 you cant compare

  • @coyy9106
    @coyy9106 6 років тому +2

    We will get the truth. As technolrgy advances we will learn more anyway. And people will slowly come forward.

  • @adamrobinette6832
    @adamrobinette6832 6 місяців тому

    I watched a video that showed that the on board 'black box' that essentially read every minute detail of the car's performance suggested that Senna made no attempt to turn the wheel. It read how much force the driver was using to turn the wheel. There was no sideward pressure at all. Nor did it suggest the column broke, which it would have. It actually makes me wonder if he fainted or something. We will never really know. But they did debunk the steering column theory.

  • @fanssolperez3430
    @fanssolperez3430 Рік тому +1

    unfortunately, with the death of frank williams, justice could not prosecute the person responsible for this totally avoidable tragedy.

  • @MrMiD.Life.Crisis
    @MrMiD.Life.Crisis 6 років тому +1

    Has anyone ever heard an explanation as to why the last part of the in car footage cuts before impact?

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 6 років тому +3

      because someone screwed with the tape, there was something that they didn't want you to see!

    • @MrMiD.Life.Crisis
      @MrMiD.Life.Crisis 4 роки тому

      @mugsy that seems like a super rational and convincing explanation. Just out of curiosity, have you heard anyone talking about seeing the last moments including the milliseconds before impact - apparently they do exist (or should I say allegedly). That's the problem for me, i don't know what or who to believe.
      Hope you're good and staying safe.

    • @maurosexy
      @maurosexy 4 роки тому

      @@MrMiD.Life.Crisis yes. Brazilian journalist Roberto Cabrini. He was there and say that one day this video will appear. The official video is clearly eddited.

    • @mitchiegxxr350
      @mitchiegxxr350 3 роки тому +1

      @mugsy I was watching the race and I remember the onboard footage. It did not cut out like all the video's you see today. You could see senna turning the wheel and the wheels not responding... The steering collum broke. It was covered up to save face for Williams racing and all the people's job working for them.

    • @mitchiegxxr350
      @mitchiegxxr350 3 роки тому +2

      @mugsy I clearly remember saying the steering broke to my friend right after the crash. I get your point tho

  • @fulcrum76
    @fulcrum76 6 років тому +4

    In the 20th anniversary of Imola BBC special Damon Hill basically said what Ron Dennisdismissed ---- it was driver error. The safety car wasn't fast enough and the tyre pressure dropped. Senna simply pushed the car too far after it was bottoming out badly. No one associated with Williams at the time (incl. Coulthard) thought it was mechanical failure.

    • @PhilipReeder
      @PhilipReeder 6 років тому +1

      Others have also stated In side by side video comparisons of Hill and Senna that Hill took a tighter line despite Sennas warning to Hill to NOT do that . That Hill went through with no problem is "proof "that Sennas car was "sabotaged" by Williams in their mod to Sennas steering column. But in actuality, Hills settings were NOT identical to Sennas. At the moment where Sennas car slipped out (oversteer) he catches it, then the car goes into understeer, in Hills onboard video, his car reacts to the same bump in the turn, but his softer settings with more wing, got him through unscathed. Senna being pole man, had to give 150% to stay ahead of Schumacher, while Hill as the perpetual number 2 man at Williams could be content with just a podium result. Sennas failure to score points or finish in Brazil and Japan increased pressure for race results. At any cost. That was a price Senna believed he had covered. So he drove over the limit one last time and it bit him. That's all. The steering wheel broke AFTER the impact and Italian prosecutors assumed it caused the accident when in fact it was a skittish car, with handling issues mixed with Senna not being willing to "let the team down" that killed him. Yellow button be damned.

    • @JoRgEChavez-to2xd
      @JoRgEChavez-to2xd 5 років тому +1

      @@PhilipReeder You're yet another inbred imbecile who refuses to watch the in car footage and goes along with what he's told to believe because his eyes are as defective as his dried up pea of a brain.

  • @richardbradbury9105
    @richardbradbury9105 6 років тому +2

    All Formula One teams make last-minute batches to adapt cars to the drivers in this case sadly all the bad things join together in one go

  • @justgjt
    @justgjt 4 місяці тому

    Very disturbing actions occured within the Williams Team after the crash which took the life of Aryto Senna. A trial and a re-trial and nothing. Money talks and bullshit walks. $$$$ makes things just go away.

  • @daveydavey-ci8vm
    @daveydavey-ci8vm 3 роки тому +1

    Alain says it the way it is, and it is just a part of racing. He knew it and they all do , you might gotta be willing to pay that price to race. He was thinking about it and you'd have to be blind not to notice, and the old saying is. Don't get in the car if you don't feel right! Ayrton Senna paid the price. Forever champion. R.I.P

    • @RM-os3oh
      @RM-os3oh 3 роки тому

      He said it was mechanical failure. Are you dumb?

  • @DavidPhillips-o5q
    @DavidPhillips-o5q 2 місяці тому

    If Frank Williams hadn’t of forcefully senna to drive that weekend he wouldn’t of died

  • @Troylito
    @Troylito 8 років тому +7

    Ive read many things since his death and there is no concise, definitive answer to what happened. Williams claims that the steering wheel was giving telemetry input right up to moment of impact, which calls into question the broken steering wheel theory. Now that wheel might have snapped and still have been sending telemetry back but I guess the answer will never be known. Damon Hill has said that he did NOT think it was a mechanical failure, and that his opinion was that Senna was pushing the car too early on not ready tires. Lots of opinions, no definite answers. Nobody wants to admit that Senna may have made a mistake that killed him, by pushing too hard on colder tires with a car that was very, very difficult to handle. But that's Hill's opinion, who was in the same car that day.

    • @Troylito
      @Troylito 8 років тому

      starting at 10:00 in the above video

    • @tech4dummies584
      @tech4dummies584 8 років тому +3

      +Xiolablu3 There was a piece of copper pipe soldered in between the two ends of the steel column. It wasn't even welded, check out pictures, you can tell the column was soldered back together. I've soldered copper water pipes together a dozen times in my house, that's exactly what Senna's steering column looks like in every bit of documentation (pictures) concerning the analysis of the column during the court case. His car had other failures before he hit the wall though, aside from the column...every time I go into detail about it on the internet someone comes along and denies everything I'm saying and calls me insane, etc., so fourth, but I'll elaborate if you wish.

    • @Jojos25
      @Jojos25 8 років тому +1

      what other failures?

    • @barrierodliffe4155
      @barrierodliffe4155 8 років тому

      Tech Dummy.
      You really are not too bright

    • @rohan9376
      @rohan9376 7 років тому

      verdict 15050 senna death

  • @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
    @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab 5 років тому +1

    Steering does break when u hit a wall at that speed...it was a slow tyre pressure loss caused by debris picked up after first corner shunt. Car bottomed out, lost downforce = went straight on. Similar to Berger's crash at same spot in '89. (his front wing failed). You can also see photos of debris shed by other cars on approach to that bend that Senna was first to run across. Race should have been stopped straight after the big start crash.

  • @seanbonella
    @seanbonella Рік тому +1

    well then ALL teams principals kill their drivers so in the past. its about faith and trust. they all know this, ALL

  • @felineprime4228
    @felineprime4228 7 років тому +1

    I am very happy to see all of the people below who have their own opinions on what happened. Many watched the Nat Geo special and simply took that info as gospel. You cannot mess with evidence, pull and destroy video and modify or lose info from telemetry and still expect fans to believe that one of, if not the greatest driver of our time let his car porpoise right into the wall. If they DID expect that then they should have cut and burned a lot more of the video so we couldn't see that is front tires remained straight up until the end regardless of steering input.
    Seconds after impact Ross Brawn is heard saying "power steering"....Did he see P.S went out on telemetry? Was he guessing?
    I know about the political thing and I know about the gay thing and all of the other conspiracy theories but to me, If we had seen all of the footage up to impact I think we would have seen some strange stuff indeed. RIP Ayrton, and hopefully Ron, or Berger, maybe Prost writes a tell all book one day. Better yet perhaps one of the Williams mechanics. Strange after all these years none of these people have come forward, how about the guy who performed the welding?
    There was no need for Frank to reduce the car to a stack of sheets, It should be on display somewhere.

  • @allanhughes7859
    @allanhughes7859 3 роки тому +2

    I am fed up with this blame society Mr Senna was my hero he was the best of the best without doubt and I can not tell you how sad I was or still am for that matter but not one single person
    would have done anything intentionaly to hurt him its life things happen I ran a buisnes when a member of staff fell out of my lorry and they took me to court I lost costing me several thousands
    I was told I was neglegent what does that mean I might not be the best but I always tried my best for staff and customers This sport is dangerouse beyound beleif do we blame someone
    for everything that happens or do we say they know what they are doing they know not everything is perfect tyres can fail metal can fail engines can fail etc etc etc Not a single person
    on this planet is perfect so mistakes will happen sadly if we admit to them these days that will be the end for us as it was with me all my staff lost their jobs I lost my future and the customers
    lost some one that cared for them ie total loss no gain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This needs to change a balance needs to be put in place otherwise no one will take risks and the whole world
    economy will come to a halt !!!!!

  • @durathad8770
    @durathad8770 5 років тому +2

    Williams is on the very last place for years now. Maybe human justice couldn't get the truth out, but there's a God above all!

    • @MrGoogelaar
      @MrGoogelaar 4 роки тому +1

      I presume the day Ayrton was killed was god's off day...

    • @MrGoogelaar
      @MrGoogelaar 5 місяців тому

      @justifiedfreely6715 You misunderstood my comment, I was one of the biggest admirers of Senna and have the utmost respect for his abilities etc, what I have it against is the ever on going preaching and god praising stories.
      A man was tragically killed yet we must hear that there is a wonderful god, where was this god when a man with so much talent and empathy for the street children in Brazil was killed?
      As I already said, I have the utmost respect for Senna, do not water it down with god stories.

    • @MrGoogelaar
      @MrGoogelaar 4 місяці тому

      @justifiedfreely6715 There is no god, sorry...

  • @MrDannyboyhall
    @MrDannyboyhall 4 місяці тому

    I tend to agree with Damon Hill on this and say Ayrton was taking a slightly different line through tamburelo and he did indeed hit a large bump there is footage of other drivers hitting the same bump in previous years and having a huge moment I think hitting that when the tyres weren’t at full temp and the ride height being so low it just beaches and even the greatness of senna couldn’t save it in time the telemetry was reading steering input through the front wheels after he lost it the steering broke from the impact I mean the impact broke the Tub so of course it would break the steering arm that was pretty poorly welded

  • @dompit9535
    @dompit9535 6 місяців тому

    Broken steering wheel is literally besides Senna when doctors are inspecting him. What else do you want to know?

  • @yallowrosa
    @yallowrosa 2 роки тому +1

    what does he really say?

  • @apmirkin1481
    @apmirkin1481 9 років тому

    the adjustment on the steering column put stress on doffermet points of the the suspension. i imagine turning at that speed and the suspension trailed the pressure up the column and it gave way. too bad it was not six inches higher. Senna would of not had a more than a few sever bruises then.

  • @edsonbuturi7726
    @edsonbuturi7726 2 роки тому +1

    SENNA FOI SURPREMDIDO PELA QUEBRA DA SOLDA DA BARRA DE DIREÇÃO SOLDAR UMA BARRA DE DIREÇÃO DE UM CARRO QUE ANDA A 350KM POR HORAS E AINDA USARAM MATERIAL INFERIOR .QUANDO SENNA PERCEBEU QUE O VOLANTE SUBIA E DECIA DE MAIS DA CONTA JÁ ESTAVA DENTRO DA CURVA E O CARRO NÃO OBEDECEU RESOLVEU PARAR MAIS ESTAVA A 320 POR HORA. SENNA MORREU NA PISTA SEU CERREBRO ABRIU COM O INPACTO.

  • @CraigBickerstaff
    @CraigBickerstaff 4 місяці тому

    Adrien Newey thinks it was a slow puncture, that he ran over some debris during the safety car. I'm inclined to believe him since he spent a lot of time investigating what went wrong and was involved with the design of the car. Ron Dennis and Alain Prost know what they are talking about but neither of them was with the Williams team at the time.

    • @dannycolverson6944
      @dannycolverson6944 4 місяці тому

      Adrian is talking utter nonsense I'm afraid. Don't listen to anyone who was employed at Williams at the time.

  • @click6427
    @click6427 10 років тому

    Damon Hill, que era compañero de Senna en Williams y término segundo ese año, en ese mismo auto (tan criticado), siempre ha dicho que cree que lo de Senna fue un error de conducción.

    • @gt362gamer
      @gt362gamer 7 років тому +1

      Porque tiene que cubrirse las espaldas.

  • @StukaUK
    @StukaUK 4 місяці тому

    Alain is correct