I too was impressed by Trusova's quad toes. They are getting very good spring off the ice and are not just her rotating quickly. I see nice improvement there. Knierim and Frazier are doing this well already in part because they have years experience doing high quality pair elements (albeit with differing techniques that need to be merged) and because they have a natural athleticism and look that is so well suited for pairs. They look great together for a brand new pair. Most new pairs aren't nearly as cohesive as this, and they have jumps, so it's all right there. They can modify lifts as they get more used to lifting together. They are progressing quickly, but they're also progressing smartly and aren't rushing to get everything down right away.
I don’t mind if kamila wants to wear more conservative costumes. I have a problem with them being so hideous to the point of distraction. What she wore for the test skates was better. Don’t put a busy costume on a skater where you want to emphasize her long lines.
I could not believe that Kamila was in the middle of a spin when the big key change in Bolero hit! Even if Michelle's Bolero was not her best, she still knew to rip down the ice with some dramatic footwork there.
Lipnitskaya posted a story about Trusova after the short. Maybe she will be joining Ilinkyh after all🤔 Either way it seems like plushenko could use a good spin coach
Lipnitskaya is such a big name in the anri-Eteri camp, and a former Olympic champion. If she can bring any valie at all, I think Plushenko will keep her. Also, due to her outspokenness regarding the issues with Eteri she was never invited to be part of the Moscow figure skating elite... meaning no invitations to present the Rsf here and there, lead the Ice age show, comment on TV... she should be delighted by the opportunity to work for Plushenko.
I was actually so pleasantly surprised by the improvements Trusova has made so far. Still a lot of work to be done but I actually enjoyed her performances here, which I sadly couldn't say before. But GOD DANG Big Sis Shcherbakova is right, Plushy's nose should hold up the dang mask, cover it or dont wear a mask at all!!!! Also I feel so bad for Kamila. Star of Tutberidze (supposedly) and she recieves THOSE dresses? Yikes Edit: the conspriacist that replied to me is just a bot or a really stupid person. Dont waste your energy engaging with it.
People need to eat healthy diets, use herbs and/or colloidal silver and other natural sources to bolster their immune systems. Washing hands is also good. Wearing a mask in public when you have a cold is polite and helpful to others. Mask wearing by the healthy is really unhealthy because you are breathing in carbon dioxide (bad for the brain) and creating an environment for viruses and bacteria that you are breathing directly into your respiratory system and sinuses.
@@jerirogers2592 You're full of crap. What you say about wearing a mask is completely untrue. As an ICU nurse in an infectious isolation ward, who has worn them day after day, for years, I can categorically say you are 100% full of BS you read on FB or some stupid right wing anti science blog.
The videos of her practice look impressive! The jumps are immaculate and she even worked on her flexibility so her extended spins seem really fluid now
Rachel Bordeaux her lutz edge was always great...check 2017 videos if you want. BUT! She know has an outside edge on her flip now out of no where. :( and it got called “ ! “
Valieva's Bolero interpretation is portraying a snake. She said it herself in an interview btw and it was hinted rather transparently by the cobra picture on her dress back. It has nothing to do with flamenco, Spain or romance themes at all. From that point of view her "cluttery" program full of infinite movements from beginning to end does make sense. I suppose the program goal is to immerse spactators in a state of hypnotic trance just like snakes do. That, and being able to move this much - with arms, legs, torso and head - always and incessantly, between the jumps too when most skaters would try to prepare for jumps instead - just highlight how insanely difficult this program is. So much so that I wasnt even surprised when the falls occurred. Still, the only one capable to skate this snake program perfectly is Kamila Valieva. I don't see any other skater who could do it even physically - one should have exceptional stamina and flexibility for it. Many people criticize this program for being too mature for Kamila and advise to wait couple of years for it - yet they fail to realize that it would become impossible to do exactly that interpretation of Bolero with more older body. it's perfect fit for her now IMO. Also, it's amazing how the strongest and most beautiful pefrormances in that tournament artistically - Kamila's short and Usacheva's free - weren't deserve even a word from you yet you have tons of praise about Trusova's quads which you criticize so strongly last year. I wonder why.
When you take a famous work of art, you cannot complete divorce yourself from its cultural context and meaning. Bolero is erotic and militaristic. The music carries these vibes in it. It is also by definition a Spanish dance. Deciding to portray a snake with that music as your theme could be acceptable of you synchronize this with the emotions which the music evokes and if you have a performer who can blend it all together artfully. Snakes, conquests and eroticism are not mutually exclusive. Valieva is undoubtedly very talented young skater. But even she being a 14 year old Muslim girl, cannot turn this mess into coherent performance and compelling story, because she does not have the experience and cultural understanding. Next time I suggest Eteri do the snake piece on something more Russian in its original- may be Anna Karenina or perhaps War and Peace. Being Russian she may be able to do that and Kamila may be able to play it. Or may be not. One thing is certain however- Kamila's Bolero is a mess. Additionally I find it funny how defensive Russians are when it comes to Eteri... it is a sign of maturity to be able to take criticism and make constructive changes. This is how athletes, performers, artists and people in general grow.
@@evamasters5028 To say being a Russian meaning that person must be good at interpreting Anna Karenina is rather stupid, if not racist. Zagitova is also Muslim, why it's appropriate fo her to interpret a sexy woman with African music at the age of 15? You don't sounds logical at all. You just want to show your anti-Muslim sentiment.
@@TheSkatingLesson so cute! I have a friend who has a nephew who looks just like him too! BTW, agree that Trusova's music is not asking for Frick & Frack moves. 😂
Happy Birthday, Jonathan! All the best and bless you for what you do here, these videos are just my cup of coco to enjoy weekly)). I am just LOLing so hard at the results of the ladies event. Especially with Trusova and Usacheva performing to the same music... Such "Bring it on" vibes and drama! I am russian and just like 🤯🤯🤯 at what I saw.
I agree with you on the loop technique. However, in the interview after her FS, she stated that she didn’t know what happened because looking at the statistics in training (she always makes it), she doesn’t understand why she missed it
I have been listening to Billie Eilish instead of being the snobby classical singer I am. 😂😂😂 Thanks, Kostornaia! I actually have broadened my mind due to a few of her programs. 😁
I wish you dedicated some words to the fact that the Kamila's Bolero program is very much alike a Pllushenko's Bolero program!!! Making an emphasis on the movements of the hands and with gloves highlighting them. What do you think about it? Is it on purpose?
I like what Jonathon said about Plushenko's seriousness when by the side at these events. I think it's his first official year as a coach, and he's got serious talent in his team. You got the qaud innovator & the senior with the best skating skills. Also, it must be odd to not have full control of what his students will do out there on the ice.
I found Plushenko to be really impressive and it does look like he's taking it very seriously, even down to some of the lesser known skaters. And most of the coaches throw a fit when the skater messes up on a jump and he just claps and seems pleased with what they did.
@@rop888 the only reason trusova and kostornaia came to his academy was because they were provided bigger rink, more resources, money, and attention, and plus the amazing coaching staff also went there because of money so basically power of money
@@spicy_kitty7983 that's very selfish right now the spread is still very fast and until they develop a vaccine we need to wear masks properly, it seems stupid that you're another one of those anti-mask people who clearly have no consideration for the health and safety of others
@@karlsamohin3282 I was surprised too. I did not expect more than 65 points. The first quad was under rotated and with a fall, she missed a combination and the last jump was repeated...I mean what happened lol
Сднемрождения comrade Jonathon! Just remember that Russian figure skating drama is just like matryoshka dolls... it's layers upon layers of never ending drama (with a beginning, a middle, and no end)!
Re hot Sergei - don't know if it's true but reportedly Trusova and parents fell out with him over Kostornaia's transfer, he'd orchestrated Sasha's switch to Plushenko with the promise she'd be the no 1 Grand Dame of the rink and suddenly in comes one of her main rivals. That's why he's not at the boards. / coaching. Allegedly.
Funny thing is he supposedly advised Alyona to overthink the transfer more aka not to come, but the headstrong little devil came anyways (no shade here, I love the girl)
Happy Burpgay Beyer!!! May your high notes never b sharp, may your vases always have elegant variety and may your eyebrows continue to dazzle us with their expressiveness!
Mio dio, as much as I appreciate the availability of figure skating “commentary” (and I assure you I do), your preening, posturing, and flailing are legitimate distractions. Jonathan is infinitely more palatable ... when he is allowed to finish a thought without interruption.
Looking ahead to the Grand Prix series, it's kind of funny how with some big federations we've by this point seen most of the skaters competing or otherwise skating programs (Russia, USA, France Japan) in some way or another, whereas with others (Canada, China) they've been pretty much completely radio silent.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Sasha's 71 PCS in the free. If this were last season people would be going crazy about it. And no one is talking about her PCS being higher than Daria's? I would have Kamila and Daria both higher than her. Yes she's improving but she's still miles away from them. Kamila made mistakes but her body movement, skating skills, and just the speed ice coverage are far superior.
It's because she left Eteri so she has fandom good will and everyone forgets how bad her skating is. Her SS, ice coverage, speed, spins and everything BUT jumps were noticeably worse than Daria and Kamila's. I think Sasha was also much better at the test skates. I think her crop top covered her stiff back and here you can see it more.
As much as i love Trusova, to me Daria R&J is more lively and enjoyable. I think her PCS just too low. Kinda surprise though, this is the first time i really pay attention to her. I don't even watch her test skate. To know that she's there as Zhenya replacement... get my respect more. But her and Kamila costumes for FS are cringey XD prefer the SP. I love Trusova dress both SP and FS. And she obviously have a lot of improvement... Now i just cant wait for Zhenya and Alyona.
Kamila and Alina are Tatars and the majority of Tatars are Muslims, but that's not what Kamila's dresses are longer. She has had much shorter dresses in the past, as has Alina. This is a stylistic choice, and not a good one.
Actually I did wonder if the length had something to do with being a Muslim, assuming she is a practicing Muslim. ( I believe Alina said in the past that her family does not observe any religious practices-Muslim or otherwise.)
@@kcesca Her dresses at junior worlds were much shorter and that was only a few months ago, where she was already visibly in puberty. Anyways, Kamila has never expressed her religious beliefs.
@@Helen-me1vn she skated to Muslim version of song “hallelujah”. Had she been a Christian or a non Muslim she would have skated to something else, it’s a very weird choice to skate to the Muslim version of a Christian song. Anyway her skirts were never super short and she wore coloured less skin revealing tights more than once
Is there anyway we can see Papadakis/Cizeron's new programs? I've heard so much about them and can't find them anywhere. From what I can tell it was a pay for view event but I didn't know it had happened until afterwards???
OMG the Dolly doc was fabulous! If you want more DOlly goodness ya gotta listen to an 8 episode podcast called "Dolly's America" and it touches on so much stuff in more in depth than the netflix doc did. So good. Also delves into the Lesbian undertones of "Jolene"
I really enjoy Billie Eilish’s music but Crown is one of my bottom 3 songs of hers, though I do enjoy the choreography of that section in Kostornaia’s SP and think she performs it really well. I really wanted to see the Lovely FS. :( I can’t imagine Johnathan listening to Bad Guy. lol
Thank you Jonathan for saying what I always think about Kamila's programs -- they are just so CLUTTERED. like you have 2 beats of music and she's already done 10 arm positions and leg positions. Its why every time I watch her, yes, her extensions are beautiful, but she just doesn't seem musical to me, she isn't letting the music guide her, its as if she makes the program and then plops any music to it!
I feel like she is one of the most musical right now which is apparent in her short, especially at test skates - her every movement matched the music. The bolero and her free from last season are just poorly choreographed which she doesn't have a say in
They really demand too much of this poor child. How could a shy Muslim girl of 14 interpret a music piece rooted in the fiary Spanish tradition? They want to force her to mature for next year's Olympics and you can see she is trying to cooperate but somethings are better left to their own course. A wiser choreographer would have chosen something more relatable... even Romeo and Juliet would have been a better choice. Kamila's skating at its best has a certain otherworldly, ephemeral quality. Bolero is the exact opposite--lavish, extrovert, worldly.
Johnathan Emma Tang added all her instagram stories to a highlights on her insta so it wasn't deleted. I think someone tweeted some things from her but it was misquoted and she asked them to take it down or something
Great episode guys! New merch idea. Items with Dave's picture as he's glancing to the side and saying some Russian skater's name -- you could put the name of various skaters underneath the picture like "Trusova!" Also, I know you guys love H/D, but I don't get it. I see all of the things you guys rave about (speed, deep edges), and I think, "they are very talented skaters who have just delivered a well performed program." I just never feel like I've seen anything special in terms of interesting choreography or a distinct style. I feel I do with teams like P/C, H/W, or G/P. Just an opinion, for some reason, I felt putting out there. Thanks for doing all you do. Hope to make it to CYA Live tonight. Have a great week ahead!
Can someone please explain, why are two different girls skating to the same music cut of Romeo and Juliet? If both sides knew they were using the same music, why didn’t they just change it?
Well Plushenko announced first that Alexandra will show a new side of her skating abilities by taking on something completely out of her comfort zone, namely Romeo and Juliet. Next thing you know about a week or two later Usacheva comes forth with the same music... knowing Eteri it is pretty clear what happened. She probably thought she will easily score against Plushenko by giving the same piece of music to one of her junior skaters, who is completely in her element with this sort of emotional and mature music. Eteri probably thought Alexandra will look immature and inept compared to Daria.
@@evamasters5028 , It wasn't planned for Daria (still junior) and Trus to compete in the same competition. Daria participated at Cup of Rus instead of Evgenia who was hospitalized than.
My opionions: Favorite Senior, 1) Aliona Kostornaia. Next favorites in order (Have changed recently): 2) Daria Usacheva 3) Kamila Valieva 4) Kseniia Sinitsyna 5) Anna Scherbakova 6) Alexandra Trusova Favorite Junior: 1) Elizaveta Berestovskaya Next favorites 2) Maria ..... (Don't know her last name, she just placed 3 rd at the cup) 3) Maria ..... (Also don't know her last name, she placed 4th at the cup) 4) Zhilina sisters 5) little girl with the French outfit with red skirt (don't know her name) someone help me out with their names!!! Please
The soft music part in Trusova‘s free was a m a z i n g. She actually moved gracefully and all her moves were on point with the music. Also I loved that costume for her. Poor Valieva was glorious in the short and fell apart in the free. In the short she actually looked confident and relaxed in the end. It was kind of heartbreaking to see her confidence crumble with every fall in the free. I have noooo clue why and how she always falls so scary on the first quad then delivers it perfectly in the combo after, but sooner or later she‘ll get hurt and they should take better care of her Usachyova was beautiful in the short but both her and Valieva were dramatically overscored and I feel like she will fall short in comparison to Sasha with the R&J. Anyways she looks amazing this season so far and I hope she will continue to grow more confident. Her dresses don’t do anything for her though. The colors are so sad and serious while she skates like a butterfly
@@triplea_qgb1963 ,i've just read that Valieva was skating her LP with a cracket shoelace- " сломаннои шнуровки" > as i understand russian, a little; but she didn't want to make drama because of that problem
@@nenavujicin7882 why? she could get injured. If it happened during performance she (most likely) would've be given an opportunity to skate again later
Can Jonathon explain why he doesn't seem to care too much for Calalang & Johnson? I think this year they have improved a great deal. They seem to skate together as a team better, have good flow/speed, phenomenal twist, beautiful lifts, and although the throws have little distance they at least seem consistent. It's just the jumps that are a disaster. But Jonathon thinks they have zero chances with the international judges? And he compliments Cain-Gribble/LeDuc, whom I really like as well, and thought they had so much potential. Now not so much. I'm not sure if the competition has gotten better or they have gotten worse, but their skating seems "heavy and labored". Their lifts are not smooth, they are strained. Their moves are not very finished and often look sloppy. And forgive me for saying, but I just want to go out on the ice and help Tim lift her, he seems to be having such difficulty. The way his feet shuffle on the lifts do not seem steady to me, it's something I see in Novice and Junior men just learning.
Yes but if your program layout has a planned lutz and you perform the jump with an inside or flat edge it will probably incur a deduction. Not sure if that’s what u were asking haha~
juliette rue you can only perform a limited amount of each jump (I believe you can only perform two triple lutz jumps in a freeskate for example). Lutz and flip being valued the highest, skaters will oftentimes try to maximize both jumps even if that means they haven’t mastered their edges, maximizing base value while risking deductions :)
I don't know if it was sarcasm, but I don't think TAT does better job at commenting than Ted. She sometimes has difficulty speaking (which is understandable considering her age, but it's sometimes hard to listen to her) and says some very controversial things (like, "they shouldn't have stopped" when Sinitsyna was obviously too in pain to just move, or saying that Kamila totally understands the Bolero thing lol)
Great episode! If it werent for the russians we would be borred out of our minds. I have a feeling that Eteri wants to become the diva that TAT is when she grows up. But TAT won't leave the spotlight easily. Lol. Also love the idea for the Navka show. Regarding the pronounciation - is it Gospodi pomiluj or Hospodi pomiluj? In southern slavic languages it's Gospodi. You could fit in Russia pretty easily with that good pronounciation Dave :) keep up with the good work!
Eteri is more of the puppeteer behind the curtain... she cannot ramble for hours and spread drama the way TAT does it. TAT is a natural. These past two days I thought TAT overdid the theatrics and drama... But she is the drama queen and I do not see anyone in the next generation who could possibly come close to her or replace her.
Did you, guys see the medals ceremony and Plushenko getting a medal as a coach? I have to give him (and Yana) that he knows how to rub it in Eteri's face. And pay the right people to get the opportunity! He is not subtle at all, but I have to say, I still like better his brass, in-your-face, ego-centric ways better than Eteri's public persona of a hard-working, God-abiding, strong but vulnerable woman, who in fact is ruthless and uses all kinds of covert tactics to smear, discredit and destroy whoever she perceives as a threat to her hegemony... at least now that Medvedeva is back with her, Tarasova was given her old job back... my point is, behind the drama of the skaters who left her for Plushenko there are layers and layers of politics and blows under the belt...
@@evamasters5028 Well, that was really stupid. You can like Plush all you want, but honestly, he's in it only for commerce and attention. The guy's so afraid of oblivion, he's ready to disrupt and wreak havoc in Russian figure skating. And his son is just another puppet. A puppet he aims to make a champ, but the way he pushes him to people' faces, it's annoying, to say the least. He's not as loved as he's hated. And all because of daddy.
@ Svetik: Everything in this world with very few exceptions is a shade of grey. So are Eteri and Plushenko. I applaud that Plushenko had the audacity to challenge her and to break the monopoly in Russian women figure skating. I also appreciate the fact that he attempts to bring more sustainable skating techniques (judging by the improvement in Sasha's quads), and I also like his comprehensive approach to her skating. Many people have labeled Alexandra "athletic and unfeminine", criticize her skating skills and artistry. He obviously works on both, which I cannot say about Eteri. This is a mark of a good coach. He is certainly not perfect and his need to dominate the space and prove he can be the best coach probably has something to do with him going to Moscow by himself at age of 11 to train with Mishin. I am sure Mishin for all his abilities as a coach encouraged competitiveness and probably used Plushenko's insecurities to drive him farther on the winning path. I feel compassion for Plushenko. Eteri is also full of competitiveness and insecurities, but her methods are different and as I said, much more covert and viscous. I also feel compassion for her, but also recognize that along with bringing some progress in the sport of figure skating she had also destroyed the long term prospects of the female skaters by exploiting yet another loophole in the ISU rules by setting a conveyer belt for 14, 15 and 16 years old girls who practice unsafe techniques and have to retire at 17 or 18, because these techniques are not sustainable. I admire the coaches of Rika Kihira, Tuktamisheva and now Trusova and Kostornaia for looking for ways to provide longevity in the sport. Plushenko is not perfect, but I appreciate what he has achieved and continues to work for. I also prefer his methods to those of Eteri. You certainly do not have to agree with me. We all share our opinions and understanding here to enrich each others views and hopefully to support the positive development of figure skating worldwide.
Eva Masters Tarasova was commenting at Europeans. Nobody have taken her job away from her. She’s not gonna comment at every Rissian cup because she us old woman and not gonna travel around Russia during pandemic. Also even last year she didn’t comment at all GP events . Yu’re really spreading nonsense round here in comments, inventing stuff from your head, like Yulia speaking about Eteri and getting banned from events because of it, when not only she didn’t say anything at all but that she had recieved treatment for anorexia, but also she is deliveratly low key, introvert and no young people have received the Ice Age job before Zhenya and Alina, please speak about something you know.
@Malvina: When the facts are speaking, there is very little one can add😉 I am glad TAT was able to comment during the 2nd stage of the Russian cup, although I do not always agree with her. Fortunately for me, although I am not Russian, I speak very good Russian and I have followed this sport for a while, and I can read between the lines. Hence, I understand some of the political nuances and want to enrich the English speaking audience here with some insights 😊 Free speech is a founding principle in the country I currently live in😊 i understand that as a diehard fan of Eteri, it is hard for you to acknowledge that she currently dominates figure skating and that she uses this political leverage behind the scene. A great man once said, you can deceive some people all the time, and you can deceive all people sometimes. But you cannot deceive all the people all the time. When people follow certain developments over a year or two, they begin to understand the dynamic😊 you of course are welcome to present an alternative point of view. The readers can decide for themselves😄
@Bennettgirl: I was finally able to check for other award ceremonies at Russian finals and did not see any of them including medals for coaches... may be you can attach a link or two of past events where the coach of the winner was awarded? This will help me believe you😎
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0:30 Happy Birthday!
1:54 Trusova 3A
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2:50 Monument Ice Rink Pair Situation
- 14:35 Surya Bonaly
16:30 Russian Cup
- 16:30 Eteri
- 18:40 Ladies
- 33:09 Dance
(35:09 This Season is the season that never happened)
44:30 ISP
- 44:30 Ladies
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Thank you so much ♥️
Time stamps are back! Thank you so much!
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Can we take a moment please to acknowledge how frigging cute Dave's nephews are?
THEY REALLY ARE!!!!
Yes! Adorable! One is a mini-Dave!
Agree. And, my teen daughter thought Dave was posting a childhood photo of himself earlier today b/c the older one is a mini-Dave.
I thought it was his son
16:37 eteri
22:22 + 23:57 plush
28:55 kamila
31:52 evgenia
34:26 zhulin
I too was impressed by Trusova's quad toes. They are getting very good spring off the ice and are not just her rotating quickly. I see nice improvement there. Knierim and Frazier are doing this well already in part because they have years experience doing high quality pair elements (albeit with differing techniques that need to be merged) and because they have a natural athleticism and look that is so well suited for pairs. They look great together for a brand new pair. Most new pairs aren't nearly as cohesive as this, and they have jumps, so it's all right there. They can modify lifts as they get more used to lifting together. They are progressing quickly, but they're also progressing smartly and aren't rushing to get everything down right away.
So much improvement from Trusova!
I cringed so hard when Romeo&Juliet came on for the second time, but I lowkey love the drama....Happy Birthday to Jonathan!
LexyMay ❤️
I don’t mind if kamila wants to wear more conservative costumes. I have a problem with them being so hideous to the point of distraction. What she wore for the test skates was better. Don’t put a busy costume on a skater where you want to emphasize her long lines.
I could not believe that Kamila was in the middle of a spin when the big key change in Bolero hit! Even if Michelle's Bolero was not her best, she still knew to rip down the ice with some dramatic footwork there.
That Galina message seriously made me laugh!
I am so glad!!
54:25 love to Kostornaia is all I needed today thank you
Just picturing Eteri going up to her daughter's ice dance coach and saying "THEY SHALL SKATE TO MICHAEL JACKSON... "DIRTY DIANA"!
YAAAS
So sweet w the Lease family..Have a wonderful birthday, Jonathan!
the devil works fast, but Dave and Jonathan work faster ♥️ and Happy Birthday, Jonathan!
I am dying to finally watch Kostornaia’s free. I’ve enjoyed all of the clips we’ve seen on instagram and am a fan of the music!!
Me too!
Yes, join the club. The only other free program I want to see performed as much as I want Kostornaia's is Medvedeva's, assuming she can do it clean.
@@TheSkatingLesson wait where are the clips of her free? I thought we didn't even know the music yet?
@@susannahkatz7351 it's the same music as Evgenia 2016 program from W.E. Ost.
My biggest issue was the god awful dresses they gave to Kamila. Just WHY.
p.s. Happy Birthday Jonathan!!!!!!! We all love you!!!!!
I liked the short but the long was good awful
@@biggestgymfan7230 I truly think the short was just as much a mess. She drowned in it.
Her dresses were awful, just like Sashas were horrible before, but I also find that Anna's do not do.much for her slender frame, too boxey and long.
They were both too long and the design choice is 'difficult'
Lipnitskaya posted a story about Trusova after the short. Maybe she will be joining Ilinkyh after all🤔 Either way it seems like plushenko could use a good spin coach
They really could use her!
Ohmygod please please please!!! Would be one of my favorite twists in 2020
Why not? He 's already hired and fired 17 coaches in a year and a half
Lipnitskaya is such a big name in the anri-Eteri camp, and a former Olympic champion. If she can bring any valie at all, I think Plushenko will keep her. Also, due to her outspokenness regarding the issues with Eteri she was never invited to be part of the Moscow figure skating elite... meaning no invitations to present the Rsf here and there, lead the Ice age show, comment on TV... she should be delighted by the opportunity to work for Plushenko.
Wow I hope she can teach exactly what she used to do!!
Sashas 3A in the worm up was not rotated but the one in the actual competition was clean, and overrotated causing the step out
Wasnt it a 4lo?
@@THATREALBREW nope
On a lighter note, whenever Dave brings out his Tessa doll - all I can think of is Jack and his Cher doll in Will and Grace 😂
Hahahah Made my dayyyyy
It is indeed the reference I am going for!!!!
“It’s not clean jump. It’s cheated” - Gallina 2020
The one in the worm up wasn't rotated, but the one in competition happily was :)
@@karlsamohin3282 It was over rotated actually!
@@purrformance yeah, true, I wrote that in another comment ;), that's why she couldn't stick the landing
@@karlsamohin3282
Beware Yzu, 4.5 is coming from Sasha (joke, but i hope 5 T for her).
Be respectful to this hardworking athletes!
The family singing happy birthday to Jonathan was SOOOOO CUTE I SQUEAKED OMG!!!!!
happy birthday Jonathan!!
Happy BIRTHDAY, JONATHAN!!!
Dave, you need to set that "it's cheated" audio as your ring tone.
I do!!!
I was actually so pleasantly surprised by the improvements Trusova has made so far. Still a lot of work to be done but I actually enjoyed her performances here, which I sadly couldn't say before.
But GOD DANG Big Sis Shcherbakova is right, Plushy's nose should hold up the dang mask, cover it or dont wear a mask at all!!!!
Also I feel so bad for Kamila. Star of Tutberidze (supposedly) and she recieves THOSE dresses? Yikes
Edit: the conspriacist that replied to me is just a bot or a really stupid person. Dont waste your energy engaging with it.
Don't worry about the mask. Keeping a virus out with the kind of mask people are wearing is like thinking a chain fence will keep mosquitoes out.
People need to eat healthy diets, use herbs and/or colloidal silver and other natural sources to bolster their immune systems. Washing hands is also good. Wearing a mask in public when you have a cold is polite and helpful to others. Mask wearing by the healthy is really unhealthy because you are breathing in carbon dioxide (bad for the brain) and creating an environment for viruses and bacteria that you are breathing directly into your respiratory system and sinuses.
@@jerirogers2592
You're full of crap.
What you say about wearing a mask is completely untrue.
As an ICU nurse in an infectious isolation ward, who has worn them day after day, for years, I can categorically say you are 100% full of BS you read on FB or some stupid right wing anti science blog.
@@biscuitcase83 it's just a spam bot, dont worry
Valieva actually prefers those competition dresses more than her test skate dresses.
Omg, every network should use that Galina soundbite to acknowledge cheated jumps lol Loved it!
Btw, Kostornaia will be skating to a Abel Korzeniowski medley for her free skate which includes yet another R&J theme.
Cannot wait!
The videos of her practice look impressive! The jumps are immaculate and she even worked on her flexibility so her extended spins seem really fluid now
Can you tell me which Instagram account you saw her FS practice on? Thanks in advance!
@@kthy31
Where are those clips?
@@biscuitcase83 Linked them above!
Sashas jumping technique is so rock solid and good now 🤯😱🤩
Her lutz edge looked very good.
Rachel Bordeaux her lutz edge was always great...check 2017 videos if you want. BUT! She know has an outside edge on her flip now out of no where. :( and it got called “ ! “
@@alexandraantonovitch428 Okay I'll check that out! That is disappointing about the flip.
oh my goodness i’m so excited! i’ve been waiting for this since this morning!
Hope you like it!
Valieva's Bolero interpretation is portraying a snake. She said it herself in an interview btw and it was hinted rather transparently by the cobra picture on her dress back. It has nothing to do with flamenco, Spain or romance themes at all. From that point of view her "cluttery" program full of infinite movements from beginning to end does make sense. I suppose the program goal is to immerse spactators in a state of hypnotic trance just like snakes do. That, and being able to move this much - with arms, legs, torso and head - always and incessantly, between the jumps too when most skaters would try to prepare for jumps instead - just highlight how insanely difficult this program is. So much so that I wasnt even surprised when the falls occurred. Still, the only one capable to skate this snake program perfectly is Kamila Valieva. I don't see any other skater who could do it even physically - one should have exceptional stamina and flexibility for it. Many people criticize this program for being too mature for Kamila and advise to wait couple of years for it - yet they fail to realize that it would become impossible to do exactly that interpretation of Bolero with more older body. it's perfect fit for her now IMO.
Also, it's amazing how the strongest and most beautiful pefrormances in that tournament artistically - Kamila's short and Usacheva's free - weren't deserve even a word from you yet you have tons of praise about Trusova's quads which you criticize so strongly last year. I wonder why.
When you take a famous work of art, you cannot complete divorce yourself from its cultural context and meaning. Bolero is erotic and militaristic. The music carries these vibes in it. It is also by definition a Spanish dance. Deciding to portray a snake with that music as your theme could be acceptable of you synchronize this with the emotions which the music evokes and if you have a performer who can blend it all together artfully. Snakes, conquests and eroticism are not mutually exclusive. Valieva is undoubtedly very talented young skater. But even she being a 14 year old Muslim girl, cannot turn this mess into coherent performance and compelling story, because she does not have the experience and cultural understanding. Next time I suggest Eteri do the snake piece on something more Russian in its original- may be Anna Karenina or perhaps War and Peace. Being Russian she may be able to do that and Kamila may be able to play it. Or may be not. One thing is certain however- Kamila's Bolero is a mess.
Additionally I find it funny how defensive Russians are when it comes to Eteri... it is a sign of maturity to be able to take criticism and make constructive changes. This is how athletes, performers, artists and people in general grow.
@@evamasters5028 To say being a Russian meaning that person must be good at interpreting Anna Karenina is rather stupid, if not racist.
Zagitova is also Muslim, why it's appropriate fo her to interpret a sexy woman with African music at the age of 15? You don't sounds logical at all. You just want to show your anti-Muslim sentiment.
Happy birthday, Jonathan! Have a fun, covid-free, safe one!
Awwww, Dave's mini-me singing to Jonathan!
If anyone, ANYONE knows about having a long skating career, its Plushy!
@@TheSkatingLesson so cute! I have a friend who has a nephew who looks just like him too!
BTW, agree that Trusova's music is not asking for Frick & Frack moves. 😂
The family singing Happy Birthday to Jonathan made my Sunday.
Happy Birthday, Jonathan! All the best and bless you for what you do here, these videos are just my cup of coco to enjoy weekly)).
I am just LOLing so hard at the results of the ladies event. Especially with Trusova and Usacheva performing to the same music... Such "Bring it on" vibes and drama! I am russian and just like 🤯🤯🤯 at what I saw.
Ah David, you're just too good at investigative reporting. Some people appreciate it thus all the thumbs up. Keep up the good work!
Much appreciated
The was the best TSL!! Thank you, Dave and Jonathan!
Good for you contacting Safe Sport. Definitely the right thing to do.
It’s crazy that the culture is still to protect people who are molesting kids and attack anyone who speaks up about it.
"Climatically spazzing out" . . . love it lol
Happy Birthday Jonathan!
Dave your nephew is a mini-mi of you lol so cute
Surya coaches at a rink I used to skate at, she is wonderful!
Only heard great things!
I agree with you on the loop technique. However, in the interview after her FS, she stated that she didn’t know what happened because looking at the statistics in training (she always makes it), she doesn’t understand why she missed it
I have been listening to Billie Eilish instead of being the snobby classical singer I am. 😂😂😂 Thanks, Kostornaia! I actually have broadened my mind due to a few of her programs. 😁
Rock on!
You never keep us waiting. Spasiba.
Enjoy!
I wish you dedicated some words to the fact that the Kamila's Bolero program is very much alike a Pllushenko's Bolero program!!! Making an emphasis on the movements of the hands and with gloves highlighting them. What do you think about it? Is it on purpose?
I like what Jonathon said about Plushenko's seriousness when by the side at these events. I think it's his first official year as a coach, and he's got serious talent in his team. You got the qaud innovator & the senior with the best skating skills. Also, it must be odd to not have full control of what his students will do out there on the ice.
it's called the power of money
I found Plushenko to be really impressive and it does look like he's taking it very seriously, even down to some of the lesser known skaters. And most of the coaches throw a fit when the skater messes up on a jump and he just claps and seems pleased with what they did.
@@lillian2376 power of Yana, I agree xD
@@rop888 yeah that's called bad coaching, you shouldn't applaud someone for their flaws but instead have a more serious approach
@@rop888 the only reason trusova and kostornaia came to his academy was because they were provided bigger rink, more resources, money, and attention, and plus the amazing coaching staff also went there because of money so basically power of money
Happy Birthday Jonathan! All this messy Russian drama is quite the birthday present lmao
As good as a decorative vase!
That comment from Anna's sister about Plushenko 😂😂😂
But, seriously, wear your mask correctly!
Yes the terrible flu with a 99.8+ survival rate in the U.S. Be afraid very afraid. Obey.
@@jerirogers2592 yep, ppl like u are the problem
@@karlsamohin3282 it's a spam comment, dont worry
@@helenaprout1061 :)
@@spicy_kitty7983 that's very selfish right now the spread is still very fast and until they develop a vaccine we need to wear masks properly, it seems stupid that you're another one of those anti-mask people who clearly have no consideration for the health and safety of others
How on earth did Kamila Valieva get 78 points on the technical ?? Even she was shocked about the points she got in the free
Yep, that was really overscored, I was like, what just happened lol
@@karlsamohin3282 I was surprised too. I did not expect more than 65 points. The first quad was under rotated and with a fall, she missed a combination and the last jump was repeated...I mean what happened lol
@@Ardit-kq4bt you know russian judging, rusfed has chosen her to be the Olympic hopeful for 2022, it obvious...
they have some weird scoring system where they add points for complex elements to encourage athletes to develop this sport or smth like that
Мария Бондаренко ok thanks, now I understand. But why Sasha did not have any bonus
Reagarding Bolero by Dani G, he could *still* start slow & increase the arm/leg flapping as the music gains power. 😁
I have been looking forward to your discussion on Cup of Russia all weekend!!! Thank you!!
Сднемрождения comrade Jonathon! Just remember that Russian figure skating drama is just like matryoshka dolls... it's layers upon layers of never ending drama (with a beginning, a middle, and no end)!
Happy Birthday, fellow Libra! (Mine's tomorrow)
Happy birthday!
Re hot Sergei - don't know if it's true but reportedly Trusova and parents fell out with him over Kostornaia's transfer, he'd orchestrated Sasha's switch to Plushenko with the promise she'd be the no 1 Grand Dame of the rink and suddenly in comes one of her main rivals. That's why he's not at the boards. / coaching. Allegedly.
That is what has been the word on the street for some time.
@@TheSkatingLesson god I love Russians.
Funny thing is he supposedly advised Alyona to overthink the transfer more aka not to come, but the headstrong little devil came anyways (no shade here, I love the girl)
kathlita but he still let her come lol
Presumably Plushenko/Yana had the final say, so it seems odd that Sergei would take the brunt of the blame?
Happy birthday, Jonathan!
Less than 3 minutes in and there’s already too much birthday and nephew and Galina goodness for me to handle!!! 🤩
🎉
I loved the energy in the last 10-15 minutes of this pod
I adored the Hubble/Donahue Hallelujah program!! Gorgeous beautiful big skating
So good!
Happy Burpgay Beyer!!! May your high notes never b sharp, may your vases always have elegant variety and may your eyebrows continue to dazzle us with their expressiveness!
Thank you so much 😀
I’m so happy you love Kostornaia’s SP now! She is the only Russian girl with real personality on the ice. I’m obsessed 👑
Mio dio, as much as I appreciate the availability of figure skating “commentary” (and I assure you I do), your preening, posturing, and flailing are legitimate distractions. Jonathan is infinitely more palatable ... when he is allowed to finish a thought without interruption.
Looking ahead to the Grand Prix series, it's kind of funny how with some big federations we've by this point seen most of the skaters competing or otherwise skating programs (Russia, USA, France Japan) in some way or another, whereas with others (Canada, China) they've been pretty much completely radio silent.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Sasha's 71 PCS in the free. If this were last season people would be going crazy about it. And no one is talking about her PCS being higher than Daria's? I would have Kamila and Daria both higher than her. Yes she's improving but she's still miles away from them. Kamila made mistakes but her body movement, skating skills, and just the speed ice coverage are far superior.
yes, that;s true, Kamila didn't have a good day, but these two movements compared to Sahsa is much better.
It's because she left Eteri so she has fandom good will and everyone forgets how bad her skating is. Her SS, ice coverage, speed, spins and everything BUT jumps were noticeably worse than Daria and Kamila's. I think Sasha was also much better at the test skates. I think her crop top covered her stiff back and here you can see it more.
As much as i love Trusova, to me Daria R&J is more lively and enjoyable. I think her PCS just too low. Kinda surprise though, this is the first time i really pay attention to her. I don't even watch her test skate. To know that she's there as Zhenya replacement... get my respect more.
But her and Kamila costumes for FS are cringey XD prefer the SP.
I love Trusova dress both SP and FS. And she obviously have a lot of improvement...
Now i just cant wait for Zhenya and Alyona.
Kamila and Alina are Tatars and the majority of Tatars are Muslims, but that's not what Kamila's dresses are longer. She has had much shorter dresses in the past, as has Alina. This is a stylistic choice, and not a good one.
Actually I did wonder if the length had something to do with being a Muslim, assuming she is a practicing Muslim. ( I believe Alina said in the past that her family does not observe any religious practices-Muslim or otherwise.)
Interesting!
Muslim girls don't typically start dressing more modestly until puberty, which would explain why her dresses in the past were shorter.
@@kcesca Her dresses at junior worlds were much shorter and that was only a few months ago, where she was already visibly in puberty. Anyways, Kamila has never expressed her religious beliefs.
@@Helen-me1vn she skated to Muslim version of song “hallelujah”. Had she been a Christian or a non Muslim she would have skated to something else, it’s a very weird choice to skate to the Muslim version of a Christian song. Anyway her skirts were never super short and she wore coloured less skin revealing tights more than once
Is there anyway we can see Papadakis/Cizeron's new programs? I've heard so much about them and can't find them anywhere. From what I can tell it was a pay for view event but I didn't know it had happened until afterwards???
Здравствуйте! Happy Birthday, Jonathan! 🧁
Not clean jump needs to be copyrighted!!
GREAT IDEA!!!
someone please tell me what the sponsor in the kiss and cry was!! I've been trying to figure it out all weekend its driving me crazy
If I remember it was an ice cream «Чистая линия» (I think it can be translated as “clean line”)
How many programs did Scott Moir choreograph? Or was it just H/D’s FD?
Not sure, maybe someone else knows?
TheSkatingLesson He also choreographed Nic Nadeau’s FS & Nik/Laurence’s FD. Also worked with Marjorie & Zach.
@@Adnamavm Thanks! Can’t wait to see them 😊
OMG the Dolly doc was fabulous! If you want more DOlly goodness ya gotta listen to an 8 episode podcast called "Dolly's America" and it touches on so much stuff in more in depth than the netflix doc did. So good. Also delves into the Lesbian undertones of "Jolene"
I loved that podcast!
@@TheSkatingLesson Dolly is a national friggin' treasure!!!
Rumor is, hot Sergey was asked not no work with Trusova as he chose to invite Kostornaya to Plush. Now they have separate everything.
Correct
Daria skated to the same music back at the test skates in august though
Happy Birthday Jonathan! Also, that CYA live was a gift! Lol.
does anybody has the link to see the new hubbell and donohue short?
usfigureskatingfanzone.com/watch/?Archive=1718&type=Archive
@@TheSkatingLesson thank you so much!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONATHAN 🎊🎊🎊❤️❤️
Your family are delightful, Dave! And happy birthday, Maestro!
Thank you kindly!
That thumbnail- Plushenko would be one of those people who wears their nose flopped out of their mask 😂
100%
Es que no le cabe la nariz ahí
With a delay but still super honest Happy Birthday to our lovely and amazing Jonathan. I hope your day was amazing. Sending lots and lots of love 🥳🎉🎊
Thanks so much!!
I really enjoy Billie Eilish’s music but Crown is one of my bottom 3 songs of hers, though I do enjoy the choreography of that section in Kostornaia’s SP and think she performs it really well. I really wanted to see the Lovely FS. :(
I can’t imagine Johnathan listening to Bad Guy. lol
I just like the irony of her skating to Crown and envisioning herself as the queen of RusFed!
TheSkatingLesson I didn’t realise she was such a diva before this season. I love it!
Thank you Jonathan for saying what I always think about Kamila's programs -- they are just so CLUTTERED. like you have 2 beats of music and she's already done 10 arm positions and leg positions. Its why every time I watch her, yes, her extensions are beautiful, but she just doesn't seem musical to me, she isn't letting the music guide her, its as if she makes the program and then plops any music to it!
oh, and happy birthday!
100%
I feel like she is one of the most musical right now which is apparent in her short, especially at test skates - her every movement matched the music. The bolero and her free from last season are just poorly choreographed which she doesn't have a say in
@@spicy_kitty7983 yah, not a fan of zagitovas skating at all.
They really demand too much of this poor child. How could a shy Muslim girl of 14 interpret a music piece rooted in the fiary Spanish tradition? They want to force her to mature for next year's Olympics and you can see she is trying to cooperate but somethings are better left to their own course. A wiser choreographer would have chosen something more relatable... even Romeo and Juliet would have been a better choice. Kamila's skating at its best has a certain otherworldly, ephemeral quality. Bolero is the exact opposite--lavish, extrovert, worldly.
Jonathan's freak out at 1:21:49 has me ROLLING hdhdhhd
Johnathan Emma Tang added all her instagram stories to a highlights on her insta so it wasn't deleted. I think someone tweeted some things from her but it was misquoted and she asked them to take it down or something
Happy Birthday Jonathan!!!! Love de Lease family cheering you!
Love this! BUT...Jonathan's mic/sound is sooo muffled. Hard to hear him and I don't want to miss a word.
Great episode guys! New merch idea. Items with Dave's picture as he's glancing to the side and saying some Russian skater's name -- you could put the name of various skaters underneath the picture like "Trusova!" Also, I know you guys love H/D, but I don't get it. I see all of the things you guys rave about (speed, deep edges), and I think, "they are very talented skaters who have just delivered a well performed program." I just never feel like I've seen anything special in terms of interesting choreography or a distinct style. I feel I do with teams like P/C, H/W, or G/P. Just an opinion, for some reason, I felt putting out there. Thanks for doing all you do. Hope to make it to CYA Live tonight. Have a great week ahead!
Great idea!
Happy birthday Jonathan have a great day
Can someone please explain, why are two different girls skating to the same music cut of Romeo and Juliet? If both sides knew they were using the same music, why didn’t they just change it?
p sure they _did_ change it --- to match on purpose
Well Plushenko announced first that Alexandra will show a new side of her skating abilities by taking on something completely out of her comfort zone, namely Romeo and Juliet. Next thing you know about a week or two later Usacheva comes forth with the same music... knowing Eteri it is pretty clear what happened. She probably thought she will easily score against Plushenko by giving the same piece of music to one of her junior skaters, who is completely in her element with this sort of emotional and mature music. Eteri probably thought Alexandra will look immature and inept compared to Daria.
@@evamasters5028 , It wasn't planned for Daria (still junior) and Trus to compete in the same competition. Daria participated at Cup of Rus instead of Evgenia who was hospitalized than.
My opionions:
Favorite Senior, 1) Aliona Kostornaia. Next favorites in order (Have changed recently):
2) Daria Usacheva
3) Kamila Valieva
4) Kseniia Sinitsyna
5) Anna Scherbakova
6) Alexandra Trusova
Favorite Junior: 1) Elizaveta Berestovskaya
Next favorites
2) Maria ..... (Don't know her last name, she just placed 3 rd at the cup)
3) Maria ..... (Also don't know her last name, she placed 4th at the cup)
4) Zhilina sisters
5) little girl with the French outfit with red skirt (don't know her name) someone help me out with their names!!! Please
Maria Zakharova, the daughter of Anna Tsareva
@@ДенисВасилич-ь7щ thank you. Who is the little girl that got 4th? It's Maria something. She was amazing too
@@pugrad2011 Maria Paramonova
@@ДенисВасилич-ь7щ Thank you!
Cdid you see the picture of Amber's eye from the cryotank, it was terrifying. No way she could have skated safely with that
We never said otherwise!
The soft music part in Trusova‘s free was a m a z i n g. She actually moved gracefully and all her moves were on point with the music. Also I loved that costume for her.
Poor Valieva was glorious in the short and fell apart in the free. In the short she actually looked confident and relaxed in the end. It was kind of heartbreaking to see her confidence crumble with every fall in the free. I have noooo clue why and how she always falls so scary on the first quad then delivers it perfectly in the combo after, but sooner or later she‘ll get hurt and they should take better care of her
Usachyova was beautiful in the short but both her and Valieva were dramatically overscored and I feel like she will fall short in comparison to Sasha with the R&J. Anyways she looks amazing this season so far and I hope she will continue to grow more confident. Her dresses don’t do anything for her though. The colors are so sad and serious while she skates like a butterfly
Hasn't changed for the better at all
actually trusova was overscored in my opinion should have had lower pcs
Valieva experienced what Yulia went through at Sochi.
@@triplea_qgb1963 ,i've just read that Valieva was skating her LP with a cracket shoelace- " сломаннои шнуровки" > as i understand russian, a little; but she didn't want to make drama because of that problem
@@nenavujicin7882 why? she could get injured. If it happened during performance she (most likely) would've be given an opportunity to skate again later
Happy Birthday.
Plushenko looked like a fool wearing the mask incorrectly. Every shot it really annoyed me.
Me too
@@TheSkatingLesson Me too!!!!!! :-) :-) :-)
Can Jonathon explain why he doesn't seem to care too much for Calalang & Johnson? I think this year they have improved a great deal. They seem to skate together as a team better, have good flow/speed, phenomenal twist, beautiful lifts, and although the throws have little distance they at least seem consistent. It's just the jumps that are a disaster. But Jonathon thinks they have zero chances with the international judges? And he compliments Cain-Gribble/LeDuc, whom I really like as well, and thought they had so much potential. Now not so much. I'm not sure if the competition has gotten better or they have gotten worse, but their skating seems "heavy and labored". Their lifts are not smooth, they are strained. Their moves are not very finished and often look sloppy. And forgive me for saying, but I just want to go out on the ice and help Tim lift her, he seems to be having such difficulty. The way his feet shuffle on the lifts do not seem steady to me, it's something I see in Novice and Junior men just learning.
hi i'm new to figure skating - if a lutz has an inside edge, isn't that just a flip? same idea as a flip with outside edge? thanks!
Yes that's right x
Yes but if your program layout has a planned lutz and you perform the jump with an inside or flat edge it will probably incur a deduction. Not sure if that’s what u were asking haha~
@@alemoreno3655 yeah! this might be a stupid question but then why don't they switch planned lutzs for planned flips, and vice versa?
juliette rue you can only perform a limited amount of each jump (I believe you can only perform two triple lutz jumps in a freeskate for example). Lutz and flip being valued the highest, skaters will oftentimes try to maximize both jumps even if that means they haven’t mastered their edges, maximizing base value while risking deductions :)
@@alemoreno3655 oh that makes sense! interesting to see how the risk vs reward balance plays out with different judges/comps. thanks!
Zdravstrvyite!
Happy birthday 🎂
Happy birthday, Jonathan!😊
I don't know if it was sarcasm, but I don't think TAT does better job at commenting than Ted. She sometimes has difficulty speaking (which is understandable considering her age, but it's sometimes hard to listen to her) and says some very controversial things (like, "they shouldn't have stopped" when Sinitsyna was obviously too in pain to just move, or saying that Kamila totally understands the Bolero thing lol)
I would much prefer the theatrics of TAT. You have to take her as a dramatic performer. You cannot take her commentary literally. She is pure camp.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONATHAN 🥳🎂
Great episode! If it werent for the russians we would be borred out of our minds. I have a feeling that Eteri wants to become the diva that TAT is when she grows up. But TAT won't leave the spotlight easily. Lol. Also love the idea for the Navka show. Regarding the pronounciation - is it Gospodi pomiluj or Hospodi pomiluj? In southern slavic languages it's Gospodi. You could fit in Russia pretty easily with that good pronounciation Dave :) keep up with the good work!
Eteri must commentate in the future.
Eteri is more of the puppeteer behind the curtain... she cannot ramble for hours and spread drama the way TAT does it. TAT is a natural. These past two days I thought TAT overdid the theatrics and drama... But she is the drama queen and I do not see anyone in the next generation who could possibly come close to her or replace her.
Did you, guys see the medals ceremony and Plushenko getting a medal as a coach? I have to give him (and Yana) that he knows how to rub it in Eteri's face. And pay the right people to get the opportunity! He is not subtle at all, but I have to say, I still like better his brass, in-your-face, ego-centric ways better than Eteri's public persona of a hard-working, God-abiding, strong but vulnerable woman, who in fact is ruthless and uses all kinds of covert tactics to smear, discredit and destroy whoever she perceives as a threat to her hegemony... at least now that Medvedeva is back with her, Tarasova was given her old job back... my point is, behind the drama of the skaters who left her for Plushenko there are layers and layers of politics and blows under the belt...
@@evamasters5028 Well, that was really stupid. You can like Plush all you want, but honestly, he's in it only for commerce and attention. The guy's so afraid of oblivion, he's ready to disrupt and wreak havoc in Russian figure skating. And his son is just another puppet. A puppet he aims to make a champ, but the way he pushes him to people' faces, it's annoying, to say the least. He's not as loved as he's hated. And all because of daddy.
@ Svetik: Everything in this world with very few exceptions is a shade of grey. So are Eteri and Plushenko. I applaud that Plushenko had the audacity to challenge her and to break the monopoly in Russian women figure skating. I also appreciate the fact that he attempts to bring more sustainable skating techniques (judging by the improvement in Sasha's quads), and I also like his comprehensive approach to her skating. Many people have labeled Alexandra "athletic and unfeminine", criticize her skating skills and artistry. He obviously works on both, which I cannot say about Eteri. This is a mark of a good coach. He is certainly not perfect and his need to dominate the space and prove he can be the best coach probably has something to do with him going to Moscow by himself at age of 11 to train with Mishin. I am sure Mishin for all his abilities as a coach encouraged competitiveness and probably used Plushenko's insecurities to drive him farther on the winning path. I feel compassion for Plushenko. Eteri is also full of competitiveness and insecurities, but her methods are different and as I said, much more covert and viscous. I also feel compassion for her, but also recognize that along with bringing some progress in the sport of figure skating she had also destroyed the long term prospects of the female skaters by exploiting yet another loophole in the ISU rules by setting a conveyer belt for 14, 15 and 16 years old girls who practice unsafe techniques and have to retire at 17 or 18, because these techniques are not sustainable. I admire the coaches of Rika Kihira, Tuktamisheva and now Trusova and Kostornaia for looking for ways to provide longevity in the sport. Plushenko is not perfect, but I appreciate what he has achieved and continues to work for. I also prefer his methods to those of Eteri. You certainly do not have to agree with me. We all share our opinions and understanding here to enrich each others views and hopefully to support the positive development of figure skating worldwide.
Eva Masters Tarasova was commenting at Europeans. Nobody have taken her job away from her. She’s not gonna comment at every Rissian cup because she us old woman and not gonna travel around Russia during pandemic. Also even last year she didn’t comment at all GP events . Yu’re really spreading nonsense round here in comments, inventing stuff from your head, like Yulia speaking about Eteri and getting banned from events because of it, when not only she didn’t say anything at all but that she had recieved treatment for anorexia, but also she is deliveratly low key, introvert and no young people have received the Ice Age job before Zhenya and Alina, please speak about something you know.
@Malvina: When the facts are speaking, there is very little one can add😉 I am glad TAT was able to comment during the 2nd stage of the Russian cup, although I do not always agree with her. Fortunately for me, although I am not Russian, I speak very good Russian and I have followed this sport for a while, and I can read between the lines. Hence, I understand some of the political nuances and want to enrich the English speaking audience here with some insights 😊 Free speech is a founding principle in the country I currently live in😊 i understand that as a diehard fan of Eteri, it is hard for you to acknowledge that she currently dominates figure skating and that she uses this political leverage behind the scene. A great man once said, you can deceive some people all the time, and you can deceive all people sometimes. But you cannot deceive all the people all the time. When people follow certain developments over a year or two, they begin to understand the dynamic😊 you of course are welcome to present an alternative point of view. The readers can decide for themselves😄
@Bennettgirl: I was finally able to check for other award ceremonies at Russian finals and did not see any of them including medals for coaches... may be you can attach a link or two of past events where the coach of the winner was awarded? This will help me believe you😎
Omg I love your take on Dolly! Totally on point. Catching those flies with honey!
I hope it's Amber Glenn's year. GET IT GIRL
YESSSS vidéo from Dave an jonathan❤️❤️❤️❤️