Moscow in Exile - with Julia Ioffe and Amie Ferris Rotman
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2022
- Seven months after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin’s mobilization order has sent shockwaves through a society that had previously still been able to ignore the fighting.
“If you were in Moscow this past summer, you wouldn’t know that Russia was fighting a costly, bloody and totally unnecessary war in Ukraine,” Russian-American journalist and author Julia Ioffe tells New Lines’ Amie Ferris-Rotman. “It was easy for Russians to push it off to the edge of their minds, but now it has come home to them.”
As security forces battle protests across Russia, about 700,000 Russians are estimated to have fled the country. Traffic jams at border checkpoints, Ioffe explains, have been visible from space. “When they’re asked to actively participate in the war and asked to go into the trenches themselves, they don’t want to take part in it.”
For Ioffe, watching Russia’s civil society implode since the invasion has been particularly painful because of her ties to the country - and to Moscow especially. “It was my favorite city in the world,” she says. But now, its once-vibrant society has been driven into exile by the regime. “How long will it take to rebuild a new Moscow, a new Russia, after this one collapses?”
But, she adds, it’s nothing compared with what was done to Mariupol and other cities across Ukraine.
Produced by Joshua Martin
I really really appreciate this woman. I can't even describe it. It's like listening to a very good friend. And every word she uses is there for a reason. She's thoughtful, intelligent, kind, but on the other hand, she's not stuck up, and if she drops an Fbomb you shouldn't be surprised. Thanks for posting this.
Continued incredible insights from Julia Ioffe
Another exquisite podcast with Julia Ioffe. Well done.
Can someone please get Julia Ioffe and Steven Kotkin together? That would be an overload of intellectual entertainment in all the best ways.
I wish Julia would publish her interviews on her own UA-cam channel.
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ohhhh HOW I WISH SHE WOULD !
Excellent sketch of what Moscow was like for many of us who lived in the Russian capital in the late 90s and 2000s... and the nostalgie we feel for that era coupled with the shock and sickness we feel today. I like the "shit and jam" joke. How true! And I've found a better translation in English for the quip: "shit and clover."
More Julia! Thank you.
Julia is awesome!!!!
2nd comment wonderful to hear Julia and her person insights , not taking anything away from our host . Still gives me a feeling of doom even as an expat middle aged English man living quietly in New Zealand . What are we to do ?
Flee into the woods (Israel, my case) and focus on building family. If motherland is not an option, family is what motherland will be for you.
This is one of the best interviews I've listened to this year. Well done!
Thanks for this insightful interview.
Excellent interview, well done.
A realistic appraisal by two intelligent people which leaves a feeling of sad nostalgia as to what is in the near offing for Russian citizens as a consequence of political indifference to tyranny bred by terrorising your citizens with the tyranny by the state
Пожалейте себя!!! Отстаньте от России! Что вы все беспокоитесь о нас!!!???
Excellent thank you
Ms Ioffe is always interesting and informative.
Julia 💙💛
i love Julia
+1 why hasn’t the state department hired her already?
Excellent insight . But shocking all the same .
Ioffe’s voice is nice
She's softly-,spoken, an expert scholar on an incredibly interesting subject and very, very pretty too. Such a brilliant, beautiful woman.
As soon as Russia was repelled in Kyiv Putin’s rantings grew ever louder about using Nukes. Now when someone brings it up from Putin’s inner circle it’s almost funny!! Lost its power, no shock factor. It’s desperation!
It is desperation.
Russia isn't crumbling because of this war in Ukraine. It invaded Ukraine because it was crumbling.
For example, why did they go in right after the pandemic? Sheer panic about demographics.
The war is not going to save Russia.
@@henriikkak2091 - You are correct! The war will accelerate the crumble!
Julia is amazing she is sooo clever you both are.
How a human being if u can count Puttin as a human being can celebrate by raising a glass to his Soldiers how have murdered innocent women and children is beyound coprehension.
How he is still able to do so in plain sight of the world, still able to walk around unincumbered is also beyond comprehension OMG!
Discussing either Putin or any Siloviki here omits glaring facts:
1. They had NEVER ceded control during the 1990s. The efforts to introduce some form of capitalism immediate unleashed the former Soviet bureaucrats who were in charge of Soviet industries. These latter were the Oligarchs. As Putin and security/intelligence/military forcibly controlled, their profitmaking, this was evident.
Silovik means enforcer, man of force. Think clearly: organized crime, as not only the structure, but as the state itself. This remains.
2. Not only the obvious paranoia exhibited increasingly by Putin, but the purest rejection of the value of human and any life, was hallmark of those who established this criminal state. We can look at Yeltsin, who slid into submission to this element in his 8 years.
The blossoming of pure chaotic disinformation culture, exceed the Soviet by far.
These were members of the state most educated in information management - the use of information, and disinformation, to develop confusion as to reality within all minds incessantly subjected. This was KGB, GRU, FSB, SVR skill. "Hybrid" refers to the use of ALL resources as weapons. THis, from the viewpoint of a cognitive scientist, differs not at all from the mind and actions of Primary Psychopaths. You who may know one or more, CAN recognize the exact individual and coalescing grouping of "con artists."
Perhaps you may have familiarity with any criminal organization - even the youth gangs quickly form, coalesce, around use of force and threat of force.