Shaq Shares Why Kevin Durant Doesn’t Belong In GOAT Debates

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  • @TexasWreckShop
    @TexasWreckShop 10 місяців тому +835

    If Duncan aint in it, KD for sure isnt in it. Duncan should've pounded his chest more and done more media ass kissing

    • @Stej-i7m
      @Stej-i7m 10 місяців тому +143

      If Duncan danced to rap music and showed up to media press conferences with a bunch of chains and diamonds on the media would rank him higher

    • @Maja-hs5pd
      @Maja-hs5pd 10 місяців тому +19

      @@Stej-i7mnot true

    • @SudoSaiyanGod
      @SudoSaiyanGod 10 місяців тому +25

      @@Stej-i7mno centre or power forward will ever be the goat anymore unless they can dribble ,shoot , pass and athletic

    • @Stej-i7m
      @Stej-i7m 10 місяців тому +6

      @@SudoSaiyanGod Nah this current era outlaws defense and physicality. People who weren't old enough to remember pre-2015 NBA won't know the difference, but everybody else does

    • @travisstrickland7270
      @travisstrickland7270 10 місяців тому +14

      Bro Shaq mentioned Curry. 😅. If that's the case KD definitely in GOAT convo. KD was clearly better than Curry even on his own team.

  • @queyoung6597
    @queyoung6597 10 місяців тому +316

    “He’s one of the greatest 7 footers, that plays like a 2 guard.” Well damn Bellamy he is the greatest if you create his own category for him. Might as well have added “who don’t bench press, or comb his hair.”

    • @beastboy9472
      @beastboy9472 10 місяців тому +14

      spitting

    • @KB33441
      @KB33441 10 місяців тому +11

      😂

    • @Travvv94
      @Travvv94 10 місяців тому +17

      Gotta show some respect to the greatest player to ever make multiple burner accounts

    • @Denzel191
      @Denzel191 10 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GarbageMan144
      @GarbageMan144 10 місяців тому +1

      Get a life lmao

  • @UPxYOURs2
    @UPxYOURs2 10 місяців тому +1000

    That Warriors move single handedly takes him out that conversation

    • @tbjb009
      @tbjb009 10 місяців тому +84

      People fail to always mention this though: The Warriors went for him, not the other way around!

    • @dontbescared512
      @dontbescared512 10 місяців тому +44

      @@tbjb009 who cares bro that just beat him hell naa

    • @MmaMadman85
      @MmaMadman85 10 місяців тому +168

      If you honestly believe that then the moment Lebron went to Miami and teamed up with Wade and Bosh, that takes him out of the conversation as well.

    • @jaredm5625
      @jaredm5625 10 місяців тому +11

      He lost to them in the conference finals shut up

    • @dontbescared512
      @dontbescared512 10 місяців тому

      @@MmaMadman85 its not the same clown be original and come up with your own thought process instead of sounding like a npc

  • @jakepalmer8201
    @jakepalmer8201 10 місяців тому +171

    The issue is they're sitting beside someone that no one has ever seen before in Shaq. And Shaq doesn't put himself in the conversation

    • @jbssmith100
      @jbssmith100 10 місяців тому +3

      Because he couldn't shoot

    • @jakepalmer8201
      @jakepalmer8201 10 місяців тому +4

      @jbssmith100 There are more people that have existed that could conceivably do what KD does with enough practice and support then there are people that could effectively do what Shaq did.

    • @Querymonger
      @Querymonger 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@jbssmith100who cares if you still cant stop him. Shaq's dunks give you the same points as all KD or Kyries long middies

    • @jbssmith100
      @jbssmith100 10 місяців тому +3

      Being dominant inside and an all around great are two different things. Shaq missed thousands of points on free throws alone which are some of the easiest shots in the league hence the word "free" in it. KD can score in the paint, mid range, from 3, and take you on the dribble. This is why Shaq doesn't include himself in the debate because he was just dominant inside. Not enough for GOAT consideration. Top 3 big men all time no doubt but he lacked many CORE BASKETBALL SKILLS.@@Querymonger

    • @Vennnnnnnnnn
      @Vennnnnnnnnn 10 місяців тому +2

      ⁠​⁠@@jbssmith100u realize teams had to have 3 people foul out of the game to slow shaq down right? regardless of his ability to shoot freethrows or not, being so dominant that youre forcing teams to throw players at you as a strategy is insane

  • @generalfeed123
    @generalfeed123 10 місяців тому +223

    Kawhi did it with Toronto. Everyone forgets Wilt, he had the best one line ever when he was going back and forth with Jordan, “The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules so l couldn't dominate. They changed the rules so that you could.”

    • @JaeSproo
      @JaeSproo 10 місяців тому +23

      Mike was dominating WITH hand-checking! He only played a few years without that rule. They had to change the rule because defense was making games UGLY. They were just mugging people.

    • @elderesquire
      @elderesquire 10 місяців тому +19

      This is Cap. Kawhi had 1 year left on his contract and was traded to Toronto. Won a chip then left. Not the same ha all.

    • @elderesquire
      @elderesquire 10 місяців тому +27

      @@JaeSprooyour a casual as well. Illegal defense was created so Jordan can dominate. You clowns say anything that Jordan says as Gospel. #goeducateyourself

    • @RIPJoeRogan69
      @RIPJoeRogan69 10 місяців тому

      bozo@@elderesquire

    • @biggeneral1979
      @biggeneral1979 10 місяців тому +23

      @@elderesquireThat’s true to be real nothing Wilt said was a lie or wrong Jordan definitely benefited from the rule changes and had the refs in his pocket he was great but he was also pushed by the agenda of the NBA to make him a mega star Wilt was not

  • @IgnorancEnArrogance
    @IgnorancEnArrogance 10 місяців тому +53

    KD is KD, but he doesnt inspire a struggling team to win, he just wins for them. Like chuck says, he doesnt drive the bus.

    • @atrain_7300
      @atrain_7300 9 місяців тому

      💯

    • @Ccdssdgvbbbb
      @Ccdssdgvbbbb 4 місяці тому

      I would think I would see a Charles Barkley 🍆 rider . Kd took struggling teams to the playoffs and atleast the 2nd round . Not many has done that so shut up

  • @Professor_BuddyLove
    @Professor_BuddyLove 10 місяців тому +183

    He doesn’t belong in that conversation… He doesn’t have the accomplishments to be there. Talent and ability alone doesn’t put you there

    • @MmaMadman85
      @MmaMadman85 10 місяців тому +36

      So team accomplishments put you there? Because KD is the most decorated Olympic player of all time, 2nd in scoring titles only to MJ, 6x all-nba 1st team, 4x all nba 2nd team, 14x all-star, MVP, 2x FMVP, 2x 50-40-90 club member, he tore his achilles and his shooting stats went up. Saying he doesn't have the accomplishments is admitting that the GOAT is a team award.

    • @Dom2.0
      @Dom2.0 10 місяців тому +7

      Why not? The goat should be based on the individual not tge TEAM accomplishments. Some players had more help than there's so why would you even think of a team accomplishment in a individuals title lol

    • @rogerdread38
      @rogerdread38 10 місяців тому +3

      Duran is better than LeBron queen

    • @W3althy_Burrito
      @W3althy_Burrito 10 місяців тому +7

      Needs more than 1 mvp otherwise you could argue kawhi belongs in the goat convo@MmaMadman85

    • @Dom2.0
      @Dom2.0 10 місяців тому +1

      @w3althyburrito792 how many does Kobe have? Voted awards domt really mean anything because of the politics behind them. Yall cry snub and this n that every single year on mvp and all star stuff but you can understand? Weird...

  • @riccoharris8991
    @riccoharris8991 10 місяців тому +152

    I’m a KD fan but he not in the goat debate he’s close but I remember he said he left OKC because he was “Tired” of being the guy Jordan would of looked at him crazy 😂

    • @smokesmitty1
      @smokesmitty1 10 місяців тому +4

      U don’t understand what he saying unless u had his experience

    • @vinjoned7081
      @vinjoned7081 10 місяців тому +7

      He was tired of having coaches that let Russ do whatever the fuck he wanted without any serious accountability

    • @dxtremecaliber
      @dxtremecaliber 10 місяців тому +12

      @@vinjoned7081lmao as if hes not the one isoed his way to choke the 3-1 against the Wariors lol

    • @vinjoned7081
      @vinjoned7081 10 місяців тому +3

      @@dxtremecaliber okay and I watched Russ completely ignore him and take contested threes or long twos just as many times.Its always been known that Russ did things his way granted he’s gotten a lot better as the years go.Theres a reason he was easily able to mesh with Steph and klay clown

    • @riccoharris8991
      @riccoharris8991 10 місяців тому +4

      @@vinjoned7081 so u go too a team with 2 dudes who shoot 10+ threes a game if he had a issue with Russ which I have never seen anything about I’m sure they would of talked it through

  • @Poweboy
    @Poweboy 10 місяців тому +255

    No kd is not in the debate

    • @fashionlife5348
      @fashionlife5348 10 місяців тому +10

      He is the goat

    • @JPK169
      @JPK169 10 місяців тому +1

      L

    • @gillroygarlic3616
      @gillroygarlic3616 10 місяців тому +7

      He is. People keep whining cause he went to the warriors and got support from all stars.
      Lebron got kyrie, the big three
      Kobe got shaq
      Jordan got pippen and rodman
      Etc
      Kd joined a white hot team and should’ve got a 3peat. That’s goat status convo.

    • @LinkTheKink
      @LinkTheKink 10 місяців тому

      how is that goat status u joined the best team in the league what r u going on about kd has 2 fmps in like 16 years in the league hes trash all he can do is score midrange pullup or 3 its not impressive u should see how many 34 ppg seasons mj has or 37 ppg hes not even a better scorer than luka LOL luka averaging 28.5 for a career w 73 point game kd is 27.2 with 55 highest scoring game hes not a better scorer than kareem, embiid, wilt, mj, kobe etc@@gillroygarlic3616

    • @rankyb8088
      @rankyb8088 10 місяців тому +7

      He wanted to be in th convo, he got in and the people said NO

  • @johnhill762
    @johnhill762 10 місяців тому +11

    Shaq’s opinion is actually reasonable here.
    Shaq is in the special category “one of the most dominant players” (along with Wilt). And KD is in the special category “one of the most prolific scorers” (along with MJ and Wilt).
    I can agree with that.

  • @ktdagoat1289
    @ktdagoat1289 10 місяців тому +6

    Its not JUST that he lost and joined GS.. Its the fact that GS was LITERALLY the best team EVER record wise BEFORE he joined them..
    Between Steph realizing what happened to them vs Cleveland, and KD wanting to stop losing to LB so much.. They both made a decision to get over him and it honestly only killed KDs legacy..

  • @davidwilliamson8502
    @davidwilliamson8502 10 місяців тому +53

    Kobe and Mike were first team all defensive like 12+ times each.

    • @McRib_Bck12
      @McRib_Bck12 10 місяців тому +1

      Kobe wasn’t

    • @abrahamasseffa386
      @abrahamasseffa386 10 місяців тому +24

      Kobe holds the record for most first team all defensive selections and the most amongst gaurds in total selections. Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Garnett and Bryant share the record for most NBA All-Defensive first team selections with nine. Kobe Bryant has made a total of 12 All-Defensive teams, more than any other guard. Wiki it.

    • @lazndora2026
      @lazndora2026 10 місяців тому +2

      *9

    • @Kalinbuggs
      @Kalinbuggs 10 місяців тому +4

      @@McRib_Bck12both weren’t Kobe & MJ 9x 1st team all d and Kobe has 12 total

    • @2kgrindtime
      @2kgrindtime 10 місяців тому

      No not true

  • @jonathanblaze1648
    @jonathanblaze1648 10 місяців тому +20

    Denver is the reigning NBA Champions with 1 superstar. That era is not over. A few years ago Milwaukee did the same.

    • @Patton001
      @Patton001 10 місяців тому +6

      You crazy if you think Murray isn’t a superstar. Same with Parker /Ginobli/ Kawai, I consider all nba defense players superstars

    • @TheRulersBack18
      @TheRulersBack18 10 місяців тому +16

      @@Patton001 murray ain't made an all-star team, much less an all-nba team. he's a really good player tho

    • @josephokorie3642
      @josephokorie3642 10 місяців тому

      @@Patton001thats an all star caliber player but he hasn’t made it yet now bucks is different being that middleton was also an all star

    • @MeTakingAStand
      @MeTakingAStand 10 місяців тому +3

      one superstar yes but the entire team is so good and so deep. also Murray is close, particularly how he plays in the playoffs.

    • @joshuajap
      @joshuajap 10 місяців тому

      Facts anyone who disagrees is ignorant

  • @blinkonce29
    @blinkonce29 10 місяців тому +58

    If you look at KDs teammates over his career... We've never seen him by himself ever

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 10 місяців тому +9

      If you didn't just roster watch you would know he's had more injuries to his roster than any all time great.
      In his 17 year career that is 16 years played because he missed one entire year due to the ACL.
      He's had 1 or 2 starters injured in the playoffs 6 different seasons and missed 3 playoff years basically.
      So in 16 years he's really only had 7 years to win a chip. 2-3 of those were when he was under 22 years old.

    • @Imightslapyou
      @Imightslapyou 10 місяців тому +22

      No one is ever by themselves tbh it’s a team sport 😂

    • @blinkonce29
      @blinkonce29 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Imightslapyou I know , that's my point I've never seen what he looks like with out a stacked roster. Jordan and Kobe were putting up God like numbers. LeBron was dragging subpar teams to the finals. Durant hasn't done anything spectacular or note worthy outside of the finals run with OKC and the Warriors. He has no real playoff moments whatsoever. His toe being on the 3 point line ?? Maybe lol like seriously Durant hasn't done anything memorable. He has no iconic moments

    • @blinkonce29
      @blinkonce29 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Christopher._M You are missing my point, Durant doesn't have any memorable moments in the playoffs or anything spectacular whatsoever. All you did was list a bunch of excuses. I'm those moments are what I'm talking about when he didn't have a loaded roster he didn't over come it. He didn't do what Jordan, Kobe and Bron did and literally beat the odds. 2 of the worst Rosters ever to make the finals had LeBron on the team. Jordan was winning everything but a title. We watched Kobe drop 81 and literally ball his Achilles off getting his teams in the playoffs and going to the finals. Durant has no signature moment in his NBA career other than going to the warriors. What's his career defining moment.

    • @blinkonce29
      @blinkonce29 10 місяців тому

      @@Christopher._M And I don't just roster watch buddy I watch basketball. You didn't even address what I said just listed an career injury report instead of addressing what I said. We never seen KD have to carry a team ever.

  • @melvintolbert8345
    @melvintolbert8345 10 місяців тому +20

    KD is one of the greatest basketball players to touch the basketball. Lead the league in scoring for many years as a new player in the league.

    • @Melanated1ne
      @Melanated1ne 10 місяців тому +1

      That simple 💯💯

    • @ekeneedebeatu2595
      @ekeneedebeatu2595 10 місяців тому +3

      They just making excuses to not put him in that conversation

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ekeneedebeatu2595 KD doesn't have many excuses to be in the conversation.

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому

      True. But he not a goat 😂

    • @slamdunk2270
      @slamdunk2270 10 місяців тому +1

      LeBron compared to KD has:
      - a better point per game average
      - a better field goal percentage
      - on more games played (so more difficult)
      … and yet he’s not seen as much as a great scorer as KD ! 😂 KD is just the eye test: scoring on jumpers with this height and fluidity, got everyone thinking he’s unstoppable while the only time he was truly unstoppable and proved it to be until winning the chip was with the Warriors when opponents had to guard Curry and Thompson on the same floor 💀 KD is no where near the GOAT debate. Not even top 15 in my book.

  • @viciousjerm
    @viciousjerm 10 місяців тому +38

    Russell’s loyalty/respect over shadows KD’s goat

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому +5

      AND how many playoffs series russ won when kd move n bro?

    • @hddh3221
      @hddh3221 10 місяців тому

      @@ojoj5194tell him again😭😭

    • @archieherrington9955
      @archieherrington9955 10 місяців тому +14

      How many did durant win withought being on a 73 win team exactly he has won jackshit withought the warriors so your argument is stupid especially considering he went to the team that beat him in the playoffs ​@ojoj5194

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому

      @@archieherrington9955 the same 82-0 team that blow 3-1 haha keep goin. now my question how many curry won without klay rapstors and green cavs? make sure ur master make the play-in. buy the way no starting on ASG

    • @hooprealm
      @hooprealm 10 місяців тому +1

      Just saying shii atp… Russ isn’t even in the discussion

  • @TheRealMichaelP
    @TheRealMichaelP 10 місяців тому +24

    People act like George Gervin never existed…..

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 10 місяців тому +7

      -- Craziest shot? The Iceman's finger roll.
      Kareem has the most unstoppable hook shot.
      Best footwork? Hakeem.
      Curry? Has the range.
      MJ? The Goat.
      KD...he's talented and is a Top 20 player, but nah bruh. He's Charmin soft.

    • @jan279
      @jan279 10 місяців тому +6

      KD taller with better handles and better shooting than Gervin, stop it.

    • @TheRealMichaelP
      @TheRealMichaelP 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jan279 Gervin wasn’t allowed to carry the rock either

    • @jan279
      @jan279 10 місяців тому

      @@TheRealMichaelP Yeah, and he played against dudes who sniffed coke, drank beer, and smoked cigarettes before games that were tape delayed. Try again, oldhead.

  • @TeamDreg
    @TeamDreg 10 місяців тому +2

    Met Bill a couple months ago at my work. Super cool dude and was exactly the way he is on camera, off camera. Salute to a cool dude!

  • @tbjb009
    @tbjb009 10 місяців тому +39

    Shaq should the last one calling anyone sensitive....😂

    • @Carbinatedfartt
      @Carbinatedfartt 10 місяців тому

      Lmfaoo kd get off that burner man, it’s obvious.

  • @edwinbrown2148
    @edwinbrown2148 10 місяців тому +4

    Shaq right on the money. If every superstar player join a team that just beat them in the playoffs, it would be the same thing KD did.

  • @52inchvert
    @52inchvert 10 місяців тому +17

    Shaq and Mike is crazy let’s start there. 🤩🤩🤩🔥🔥🔥 8 rings

    • @FearVampToons
      @FearVampToons 10 місяців тому

      Shaq over whoopin

    • @user-xb4fm5rx8h
      @user-xb4fm5rx8h 4 місяці тому

      @@FearVampToonsJ Mane got me sayin “let’s start there!” Lol😂😂😂

  • @distinctgaming8717
    @distinctgaming8717 10 місяців тому +6

    imagine going to the best team and being the best. Wild to think that

  • @Spud_E_Buddy
    @Spud_E_Buddy 10 місяців тому +11

    KD is a bad man, no debate there, but he hasn’t played enough elite level defense IMO for me to consider him in the GOAT conversation. Same thing for Steph.

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому +3

      Defense lmao you narrative shifters make up any criteria

    • @TheMidnightSun33
      @TheMidnightSun33 10 місяців тому

      Neither has Lebron lol Lebron gets scored on a lot btw

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому

      @@TheMidnightSun33 tell me any great player in history of the entire game that doesnt get scored on? This is the NBA can we stop acting this isn't normal. We act like every great player got defense like Ben Wallace. LeBron has the most iconic defensive plays in the most critical moments in the playoffs he is not a liability.

    • @Spud_E_Buddy
      @Spud_E_Buddy 10 місяців тому +2

      @@kelahamutenya3217 “Narrative shifter”? 😂 Why, because my reasoning does match yours? You have your opinion, and I have mine. It’s okay to have different opinions my friend.

  • @damienjones3970
    @damienjones3970 10 місяців тому +4

    Did anyone notice when asked about Payton and Malone Shaq said “Yea I did forget”😂 Shots fired!

    • @DontWannaBe
      @DontWannaBe 10 місяців тому +6

      Idk how that guy called it a superteam though... Malone was 40, Horace was 38, Payton was 35.... These guys were all way past their primes. And this is in an era where most guys were retired by that age.

    • @dimas.408
      @dimas.408 10 місяців тому +2

      @@DontWannaBejust because they were past their prime doesn’t mean they weren’t great, Karl Malone was averaging 20,7,4 before joining the lakers & Payton 19,3,7, that’s literally insane for old dudes at the time but they got injured which caused them a title

  • @user-yd7jb9qg5h
    @user-yd7jb9qg5h 10 місяців тому +5

    Shaq won 4 championships and was one of the main reason he won. Golden states won a championship before KD and after KD and KD didn’t win shit without golden states

  • @hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749
    @hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 10 місяців тому +107

    😂 these fools always downplay the cowardly move KD made

    • @lvpradagucci5539
      @lvpradagucci5539 10 місяців тому

      Is wasn't goofy he wanted to for golden state who cares get a life and stop hating its lame goofy

    • @realrocg2509
      @realrocg2509 10 місяців тому +11

      So what was lebron move??? 😂

    • @taylor860gang
      @taylor860gang 10 місяців тому

      ​@realrocg2509 I hate LeBron but did he join a championship team????

    • @Kev_-qm1je
      @Kev_-qm1je 10 місяців тому +29

      @@realrocg2509Bron has WON 🏆 every where he’s played… can’t say the same for KD

    • @davidrichards3255
      @davidrichards3255 10 місяців тому +34

      @realrocg2509
      The heat were trash the year before bron went there. KD went to a dynasty.

  • @sleezzo
    @sleezzo 10 місяців тому +9

    i agree with lou, it was the timing & my problem was you went to a team that beat you

    • @DANNYxBOY9089
      @DANNYxBOY9089 10 місяців тому +2

      Timing aside he went to a team that broke the regular season win record. Not a GOAT move

  • @pedroramirez0824
    @pedroramirez0824 10 місяців тому +4

    Funny how they say he’s one of the most dominant prolific scorers but yet his career highs or scoring stretches don’t say the same. Kobe 6 straight 50 point games, 2 60 point games in a week, 81, averaged 45+ for a entire month. More 40, 50,60,70 point games than KD

    • @thegoatproduction6054
      @thegoatproduction6054 10 місяців тому

      As far as efficiency kd is one of the best, he barely misses.

    • @michaellewis9490
      @michaellewis9490 9 місяців тому

      Because he doesn’t need 35 shots to do so he gets 40 on 17-19 shots regularly 😭😭 like it’s actually common sense top 8 scoring all time not even top 25 missed field goals all time but you can guess where Kobe is on that all time missed shots list 😭😭 numero uno by faaaar

  • @marvinmccoy6836
    @marvinmccoy6836 10 місяців тому +5

    No one could ever do it themselves, there was never a person to win a championship in a team sport by themselves

  • @lovetownsend
    @lovetownsend 10 місяців тому +4

    Shaq is right, KD in a different category. Plus his achievements kinda diminished by the fact he had the 2 best shooters in history on his team

  • @Pashhhh456a
    @Pashhhh456a 10 місяців тому +78

    Imagine KD being ur goat 😂😂😂😂

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому +11

      KD is the goat for his fans, stop the hate
      here my best players ever: 1Bobby sura, Mj, Kobe, Sprewell, shaq, AI, Hill, Penny,Mcdyes, Kemp, Bron, Kd, payton.

    • @2kgrindtime
      @2kgrindtime 10 місяців тому +12

      He's mine

    • @albertdaley9093
      @albertdaley9093 10 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂facts lebron to imagine sayin lebron your goat 😂😂😂 him kd def not no goats

    • @LinkTheKink
      @LinkTheKink 10 місяців тому +5

      1 league mvp 2 rings 2 fmps because joined top 3 team all-time in 16 seasons lmfao kd is trash dude has played with ibaka,harden,westbrook,kyrie,steph,klay,dray,dbook and has that to show for it hes not even top 10 wtf there are like 5 players with 5 rings who are all ahead of him

    • @Untitledt
      @Untitledt 10 місяців тому +4

      If you appreciate basketball he is

  • @3MUnique
    @3MUnique 10 місяців тому +3

    He’s right; We’ve never seen a guy with his talent be up 3-1 to a team in the playoffs, lose and then go join them. FOH!!!! That killed ur ascent from jump. Talking about wrong time to go to GS like he got traded there or he wasn’t in control of the narrative.

  • @Patroclus
    @Patroclus 10 місяців тому +5

    Shaq played for damn near half the teams in the NBA. What does he mean "if I knew I could jump around.."

    • @themoviereviewwarriors939
      @themoviereviewwarriors939 10 місяців тому +2

      He played for them once he was over the hill. He did not go any place in his prime.
      Also Shaq is not calling himself the goat.

  • @dexterjsullen
    @dexterjsullen 10 місяців тому +4

    As a kd fan i feel like he has under achieve of what hes capable of doing, the man can drop 40pts every game, if he demands the ball or you trash talk him.

  • @MrColeBeans
    @MrColeBeans 10 місяців тому +6

    They said if KD win next year it changes the convo? I don’t think so, he’s on another super team with the suns and Devin Booker is arguably the #1 shooting guard in the league. Beal is also top 5.

    • @gumption2967
      @gumption2967 10 місяців тому +2

      Stop moving the goal post yall said if curry had to win one more to get in that convo an he did he deserves it just admit it yall hate kd because he beat lebron twice in the finals and I hope he win one more so yall can hate even more

    • @Jp2timezz
      @Jp2timezz 10 місяців тому

      @@gumption2967 on god😂😂

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@gumption2967curry won as the main dude. And without KD. Multiple times 😂

    • @michaellewis9490
      @michaellewis9490 9 місяців тому

      @@colinnixon7739 i think Andrew Wiggins was the main dude that year they almost missed the layoffs without him 😂😂😂

  • @lovetownsend
    @lovetownsend 10 місяців тому +3

    The last point is 10000% correct "Everyone's too good now" its true, everybody is a beast now coming out, you need superteams to win (unless u 2016 caliviers)

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 10 місяців тому +3

      The players are worse than ever today.
      A super-team hasn't won the championship in 5 seasons.

    • @lovetownsend
      @lovetownsend 10 місяців тому

      legit don't have any idea what ur talking about@@penkima4923

    • @themoviereviewwarriors939
      @themoviereviewwarriors939 10 місяців тому +1

      Most of these guys are not half as good as we think. No one can lay a pinkie finger on them. Let them play in the 80s or 90s and it would be a different story.

    • @iank3924
      @iank3924 10 місяців тому +4

      Cavs had Lebron, Kyrie, and Kevin Love. All 3 were top 10 players in the league at the same time. Are you high or a small child?

  • @gratitude8959
    @gratitude8959 10 місяців тому +5

    i know i didnt just hear shaq call someone else sensitive

  • @kouleeofficial
    @kouleeofficial 10 місяців тому +5

    All of what he did in the way he did it eliminated his goat convo. He was in the thunders and had a 3-1 lead over the GSW in the playoffs. They came back and won, and the very next year, he went to their team.

  • @jumpingonoffthejet9377
    @jumpingonoffthejet9377 10 місяців тому +13

    1 or the greatest HELL YEAH ! Before the Warriors he was already 1st ballot Hall OF Fame.

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +1

      HoF and goat are unrelated.

    • @jumpingonoffthejet9377
      @jumpingonoffthejet9377 10 місяців тому

      @@colinnixon7739 Who cares he’s still one of the greatest to touch a basketball. Allen Iverson is considered one of the greatest and he had ZERO RINGS. I can go down the list. You’re a moron if you think other wise.

  • @MySaviorJesus7
    @MySaviorJesus7 10 місяців тому +4

    I didn't know Shaq and Bill Bellamy are cousins! 😂

  • @michaeljamesflores1645
    @michaeljamesflores1645 10 місяців тому +27

    Definitely, KD is the GOAT of the weakest mind in NBA History for going to the Warriors. Period!!!

    • @MuwopDuwop
      @MuwopDuwop 10 місяців тому +2

      Nobody saying lebrons move to Miami don’t put him in the Goat debate so why isn’t KD talked about lmao

    • @michaeljamesflores1645
      @michaeljamesflores1645 10 місяців тому +2

      @Muwopduwop cuz miami back then was not a 73 wins team and a team that came back from a 3-1 lead against KD a yr b4. Pay attention my man. So you won't sound so ignorant.

    • @MuwopDuwop
      @MuwopDuwop 10 місяців тому

      @@michaeljamesflores1645 lebron did the same thing tho it don’t matter if he went to 73 win team or not and if LeBron don’t join Miami you would never see KD in a warriors jersey you can blame lebron for that nobody being ignorant it’s straight facts Lebron joined a team that was already a championship contender once he joined that put the icing on the cake they didn’t need lebron lebron needed them same thing with KD we could’ve still won ships without KD we would’ve still had the best bench for years to come but we got rid of the entire bench if anyone sound ignorant it ain’t me

    • @michaeljamesflores1645
      @michaeljamesflores1645 10 місяців тому +1

      @MuwopDuwop 🤣🤣🤣 Not gonna waste my time on you man. 23 likes means 23 got it but you🤣🤣🤣. But I got you dude. Really... Another Lebron hater...tsk tsk have a nice life bro😉

    • @MuwopDuwop
      @MuwopDuwop 10 місяців тому

      @@michaeljamesflores1645 they both did the same shit your just a miserable keyboard warrior bro 😂

  • @Taytay_moneyup
    @Taytay_moneyup 10 місяців тому +4

    Shaq in Chicago 😳😳😳 would’ve been crazy

  • @AsianCajunCaucasian
    @AsianCajunCaucasian 10 місяців тому +5

    I wonder if the Drexler's and Barkley's would've been in the GOAT conversation if they one a chip as the bus driver & another as the co-bus rider vs. Jordan's 6. Individual talent aside, winning chips in a team sport should mean something unless it's 1v1 goat. Part of being it is bringing the team there in a team sport.

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому +3

      Drexler and Barkley are the reason MJ was the GOAT in the 90's they were the easiest rivals any GOAT has ever had.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 10 місяців тому

      @@kelahamutenya3217 Drexler and Barkley were equally good with KD. MJ faced both once in the finals, so I wouldn't call them rivals.

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому

      @@penkima4923 what other players in his size were really his rivals ?

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kelahamutenya3217 As a team, I'd say the Pistons was the biggest rival. It was in the late 80's and early 90's. Joe Dumars might've weighed almost the same, and was possibly as strong as MJ, but was shorter. Mark Aguirre and Adrian Dantley were MJ's height, but I think they were matched up with Pippen. Not sure if the Jazz was a rival team, but at least they faced the Bulls twice in the finals. Bryon Russell was the closest to MJ's size.

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому

      @@penkima4923 no dispute you are correct my brother. The point i was trying to make was the names you mentioned dont jump off the page, that is why I was of the opinion that MJ didnt have competition at his position for close to a decade,

  • @hodgelive
    @hodgelive 10 місяців тому +11

    idc. kd is the best offensive player in history. his career hasn’t lived up to the likes of lebron or mj, but 1on1 he beats anybody.

    • @jaobille79
      @jaobille79 10 місяців тому +1

      MJ beats him 1on1. Kawhi can too

    • @anirudhranjan2934
      @anirudhranjan2934 10 місяців тому +1

      Too bad, cuz Basketball is a team game. He can be the best Iso player but he can still lose. Cuz its a 5 man game.

    • @Enzo-tg8uo
      @Enzo-tg8uo 10 місяців тому +1

      best offensive player in history ??? Lmao 🤣

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +3

      Jordan and wilt are literally better scorers 😂

  • @EternityReal
    @EternityReal 10 місяців тому +7

    AI could’ve been in this conversation too if he joined the Bulls or Shaq 😂

    • @Marcus-xu7hn
      @Marcus-xu7hn 10 місяців тому

      ….you say that like he’s not AI lmao

    • @fashionlife5348
      @fashionlife5348 10 місяців тому

      Ai is top 15

    • @enochbeats5313
      @enochbeats5313 10 місяців тому +3

      @@fashionlife5348AI not top 15 lol

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +1

      Unlikely. He joined melo in Denver (a team that was in the west finals) and AI was still averaging 30 the year he was trade there. Then 26 ppg two seasons soooo....

  • @artgrad
    @artgrad 10 місяців тому +1

    All KD needs is ONE where he's the bus driver and he's in that conversation??? We're really diluting our standards to have anyone in the GOAT conversation at this point.

  • @livefromthemotherland
    @livefromthemotherland 10 місяців тому +5

    If bron didn’t get disqualified for joining Miami then playing with kyrie and k love , then kd isn’t disqualified from the convo. He’d just have to get more championships

    • @enochbeats5313
      @enochbeats5313 10 місяців тому

      KD joined a team that wit 73-9 and knocked him out of the playoffs, Lebron joined a Miami and a Cleveland team that was garbage the year before he went there, no comparison lol

    • @LouiHimDuncan
      @LouiHimDuncan 10 місяців тому

      @@enochbeats5313 exactly niggas always want to bring Bron up lmao 😂. People don’t even realize by time Bron joined Miami wade was already on a downward turn due to injuries. Bron & Bosh kept wade in the league a couple more years imo 🤷🏽

    • @livefromthemotherland
      @livefromthemotherland 10 місяців тому +5

      @@enochbeats5313 that straw man argument y’all use doesn’t work anymore. Fact is he stacked the deck. And the heat won a championship. Wade got injured so they were below 500 and he came back and they were a playoff team. Enough of the narrative that bron dragged trash to the finals. He builds a all star squad wherever he goes and beats weaker competition

    • @Melanated1ne
      @Melanated1ne 10 місяців тому +3

      @@livefromthemotherlandon top of that wasn’t kd and steph the new school to lebron and if he teamed up on both of them it makes sense for kd and steph to show lebron a lesson and team up on him what goes around comes around

    • @livefromthemotherland
      @livefromthemotherland 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Melanated1ne facts. Kd was getting his get back for that thunder loss against the heat

  • @checkanr138
    @checkanr138 10 місяців тому +1

    outro is WAY too loud, pls fix, thx

  • @Rico_Flamez
    @Rico_Flamez 10 місяців тому +11

    Kd so talented that kobe had to figure out that he couldnt guard him , come on man the numbers he was putting up on that golden state team is ridiuclous i salute him a ribg is a ring

    • @JAYSPLASHMUSIC
      @JAYSPLASHMUSIC 10 місяців тому +4

      what does that have to do with KD being in Goat convo? Hes never lead a team to a championship...

    • @HARVEY_1988
      @HARVEY_1988 10 місяців тому +4

      @@JAYSPLASHMUSICwarriors wasn’t beating Lebron again after 2016.. you forget Steph Clay Dray Steve Kerr and the GM flew to the Hamptons begging him to join their squad… They needed him

    • @JAYSPLASHMUSIC
      @JAYSPLASHMUSIC 10 місяців тому +1

      @@HARVEY_1988 again, what does that have to do with the goat debate? The Warriors took them to 7 and were up 3. Who knows what would happen next season w/o KD.
      Point is KD doesnt have enough post season success as the LEADER every team he LEADS he gets beat. Just facts hes a top 11-15 player alltime

    • @quartpurp9798
      @quartpurp9798 10 місяців тому +1

      A ring is a ring yet y’all discredit Lebron’s bubble ring lmao

    • @andrewhudsonthegreatest9923
      @andrewhudsonthegreatest9923 10 місяців тому

      You’re proving nothing

  • @MeTakingAStand
    @MeTakingAStand 10 місяців тому +1

    KD is both one of the most skilled and talented players we've ever seen, but also he's one of the luckiest. He goes from a team with MVP Westbrook and Harden to the arguably greatest team ever assembled to a team with Kyrie and Harden to a team with CP3 and Booker to a team with Booker and Brad Beal. It's so hard to say any player is the GOAT when they've consistently had one of basketball's best casts around them.

  • @playamade100
    @playamade100 10 місяців тому +3

    KD is some special but we had many of Him...bron, kobe Jordan is à different breed ...

    • @andrehoward558
      @andrehoward558 10 місяців тому +1

      What😂😂😂😂

    • @Melanated1ne
      @Melanated1ne 10 місяців тому

      @@andrehoward558many of Kd’s? Lol 😂

    • @andrehoward558
      @andrehoward558 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Melanated1ne ppl just be saying any thing

    • @Sadsmileyfaceproduci
      @Sadsmileyfaceproduci 10 місяців тому +2

      We have not had many of KD at all, in fact no 7 footer player has had his level of abilities yet

  • @lightsout49
    @lightsout49 10 місяців тому

    Great convo fellas got my sub 💪🏾

  • @airjoshy
    @airjoshy 10 місяців тому +4

    Could you imagine Shaq and Mj!?

    • @K-xb2qz
      @K-xb2qz 10 місяців тому

      2 3 peats without Shaq so I'd say 6 in a row with Shaq. 😊

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +1

      It wouldn't happen. Jordan contract was too big. They couldn't get both under one roof.

  • @jawaunHayes-fb4pe
    @jawaunHayes-fb4pe 10 місяців тому +2

    Lou made a great point. Not the fact kd went to golden state. The timing of it.

  • @KDogduval
    @KDogduval 10 місяців тому +11

    Most ppl...esp BRONstanians (LeMedia included)..hate on KD bcuz he went to GS and helped beat the breaks off of Bron 2WICE. Slammin the door in his face w/them clutch daggers while doing it. It's that simple💯

    • @Fatta007
      @Fatta007 10 місяців тому +4

      go look how bron use to do before the warriors and after

    • @mrandithankyou
      @mrandithankyou 10 місяців тому +6

      YEah steph had to go recruit KD to beat JUST lebron. Not the cavs...but Lebron lol. And Lebron was the better both loses. You are a casual lol

    • @KDogduval
      @KDogduval 10 місяців тому

      @@mrandithankyou Right on Q...u one one them whining azz Mfs I'm talm bout.🤣 "But...but..Steph had to recruit KD to beat Bron". Butcha azz ain't talm bout how Bron recruited KD to Clev too huh? FOH...idgaf bout dat shyt u talkin. All these years later and u STILL mad KD went to GS and went to work on Bron'nem. If he joined Bron instead ya azz woulda been clapping like a lil school girl.🤣🤣🤣

    • @kelahamutenya3217
      @kelahamutenya3217 10 місяців тому +5

      what you are basically saying is that LBJ would have had more chips if they didnt come together I think that is the highest compliment you can give to Bron. You are most likely an MJ psychophant so this was also good in stoping Bron from eclipsing 6 chips I see your reasoning well done.

    • @KDogduval
      @KDogduval 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kelahamutenya3217 Whatever helps u sleep at night hamute boy.🤣 ya man has had more help than any superstar in the history of NBA ball and is STILL "Chasing the Ghost that played in Chicago"..his own words. So continue to chase w/him.

  • @MmaMadman85
    @MmaMadman85 10 місяців тому +1

    Lets just put it this way, there are a lot of players that don't have certain team achievements and that is supposed to keep them out of the conversation when there are a lot of players that are severely overrated simply because of the teams they were on or the time period they played in.

  • @mitchellleavell4263
    @mitchellleavell4263 10 місяців тому +4

    The NBA players who say that KD ain’t this & that because he went to Golden State after they beat him. Like Rodman went to the Bulls after the Bulls took over the Pistons so that hoping teams been around💯

    • @jairwest5
      @jairwest5 10 місяців тому +6

      Not the same thing at all tf 😂

    • @mitchellleavell4263
      @mitchellleavell4263 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jairwest5 why not?

    • @taylor860gang
      @taylor860gang 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mitchellleavell4263lmfao because Rodman was a rebounder and defensive player.

    • @AuthorLothian
      @AuthorLothian 10 місяців тому +2

      Let's try Chris Paul, he was up 3- 1 with the Clippers and the year after went to the Rockets.

    • @mitchellleavell4263
      @mitchellleavell4263 10 місяців тому +1

      @@AuthorLothian that’s a good example too

  • @Brocman
    @Brocman 10 місяців тому +1

    "Ain't no one superstar winners no more" ... Giannis: "say what?!"

  • @MadTokes
    @MadTokes 10 місяців тому +29

    KD is no where close

    • @JerryWest-b8y
      @JerryWest-b8y 10 місяців тому +3

      Why cause you have feelings for lebron

    • @quartpurp9798
      @quartpurp9798 10 місяців тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@JerryWest-b8yget off brons jockstrap😂 dude joined a team he lost to, argument out the window

    • @4thqtrmarlomarlo831
      @4thqtrmarlomarlo831 10 місяців тому

      Kd played his self

    • @JerryWest-b8y
      @JerryWest-b8y 10 місяців тому

      @@quartpurp9798 lesweep

    • @oliveranthis9069
      @oliveranthis9069 10 місяців тому

      Shaq would he ahead of KD in this discussion.

  • @becomingthenext6904
    @becomingthenext6904 10 місяців тому +1

    Man even if he wins with his current situation it don’t count bro on a crazy team again

  • @TafariTalk
    @TafariTalk 10 місяців тому +3

    If KD is in the convo than AI is too

    • @Jp2timezz
      @Jp2timezz 10 місяців тому

      Fuck no 😂😂

    • @TafariTalk
      @TafariTalk 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Jp2timezz exactly. Fuck no

    • @Jp2timezz
      @Jp2timezz 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TafariTalk ai not even in KD class bro be fr ai not even top 25 & im not hating that’s facts💯

    • @andrewhudsonthegreatest9923
      @andrewhudsonthegreatest9923 10 місяців тому

      @@Jp2timezzwithout the warriors, KD’s resume is similar to AI’s….both only have 1 MVP and 4 scoring titles

  • @emmanuela7528
    @emmanuela7528 10 місяців тому +1

    I will never understand why Americans talk about basketball like it’s a one-on-one sport. KD didn’t lose to GSW; the Oklahoma City Thunder lost to GSW. It’s not tennis or boxing.
    The team or organisation you are on has a lot to do with how your career turns out. Jordan didn’t win until Jerry Krause started putting good teams together. If Kerr and Paxson don’t hit those clutch shots, who knows what would have happened? Kobe didn’t win post-Shaq until the front office brought in Gasol and Odom and Artest plus Bynum’s maturation. Steph couldn’t win without Dray and Klay and Iggy. In 2022, they needed a totally out-of-nowhere performance from Andrew effing Wiggins to win.
    Absolutely no one wins any team sport by themselves. OKC kept surrounding KD with non-shooters in the pace-and-space era. The Warriors, on the other hand, gave Curry his pick-and-roll dance partner (Dray), defenders who could shoot (Iggy, Barnes, Wiggins), and a fellow flamethrower in Klay. San Antonio kept finding the right guys to pair with Duncan outside Manu and Tony.
    No individual player can ever outperform his team’s incompetence, and KD couldn’t outperform playing heavy minutes with Dion Waiters and Andre Roberson. It is what it is.

  • @srtghost3842
    @srtghost3842 10 місяців тому +4

    KD raised Steph higher on the GOAT list and bumped himself down. The GS state move was the worst possible decision at that time, if he would’ve went to another top team and won 2 rings he would be ranked higher than Steph.

    • @peezydabeatmonster8112
      @peezydabeatmonster8112 10 місяців тому +3

      steph raised himself on the goat list Steph got disrespected more with kd til he won again without him Steph raised kd higher in every conversation he dont belong in without Steph kd is in the ringless conversation

    • @Project_N89
      @Project_N89 10 місяців тому +1

      bro KD cannot win anything without being carried by the warriors and their amazing team. it is a fact unless proven otherwise!

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 10 місяців тому

      KD and Steph played on the same team in their primes, and KD turned out to be the better player.

    • @Project_N89
      @Project_N89 10 місяців тому +5

      KD is only even in any nba convesation, forget about GOAT , because of steph and the warriors. He never was in the GOAT list. Only KD fanboys put him there. Also, KD cannot win without warriors. He still has not. People acting like he would have won anywhere else are delusional at best.

    • @peezydabeatmonster8112
      @peezydabeatmonster8112 10 місяців тому

      @@Project_N89 facts idiot's like to compare what KD look like on Gsw while needing Curry help but forget he choked 3-1 to curry when they had they own teams

  • @Julian-rt9qs
    @Julian-rt9qs 10 місяців тому +1

    You don't have to do it alone, just don't fail to do it after being up 3-1 in the conference finals...don't expect credit for doing it when you join the team you blew the Conference Finals lead to...don't expect credit when you do it playing alongside the winningest regular season team ever + the first unanimous MVP in league history.

  • @theloxfamily2862
    @theloxfamily2862 10 місяців тому +3

    I put kd in conversations with Bird, shaq, hakeem etc......not quite goat status.....but transcendent and better than everyone else

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +1

      All their careers are done. If they not already your goat they can't be.

  • @livefromthemotherland
    @livefromthemotherland 10 місяців тому +2

    KD gotta get two clean rings (the opposing team isn’t injured ) as the head guy to be in the Goat convo

  • @D15-b8j
    @D15-b8j 10 місяців тому +5

    Shoutout Lou will

  • @TheJourneyofAll
    @TheJourneyofAll 10 місяців тому +1

    KD is gonna forever be tarnished by the GS move. If he wins another chip or 2, it's not gonna diminish what he did before. The off the court internet stuff doesn't help either

  • @jawaunHayes-fb4pe
    @jawaunHayes-fb4pe 10 місяців тому +3

    How they give kd a hard time aboit goin to gs but nobody say shit about lebron goin to miami? Smh

    • @pernellgary2403
      @pernellgary2403 10 місяців тому

      😂 mind bad

    • @quartpurp9798
      @quartpurp9798 10 місяців тому

      Cause it ain’t the same doofus, nba fans are dum😂

    • @alexescutia4805
      @alexescutia4805 10 місяців тому +1

      Lebron was burned to the ground after that move until he started winning after Miami while kd aint been out the second round since golden state

  • @lvpradagucci5539
    @lvpradagucci5539 10 місяців тому +1

    I know kd he was going to golden state even if okc won the chip because he said the goldenstate system was hes dream to play for steph klay just a all round team that passes the basketball thats unguardable

  • @busterdog321
    @busterdog321 10 місяців тому

    Shaq is one of the MOSTA sensitive guys around. People have made slight jokes or even random comments about things he has loose ties too at best and he just jumps right on it like people have directly attacked him.

  • @blbl3696
    @blbl3696 10 місяців тому +3

    Anyone saying Gary Payton and Karl Malone along with Shaq and Kobe where a Super team is beyond ridiculous Karl and Gary where not even all Stars at that stage of there careers they where beginning to ride of in the Sun set

  • @adeadele-nz6xt
    @adeadele-nz6xt 10 місяців тому +2

    Dude Thanks for checking shaq . He played on superteams

    • @ownthelibs
      @ownthelibs 10 місяців тому

      Not in his prime

  • @justineebourgeois3420
    @justineebourgeois3420 10 місяців тому +3

    KD is def part of the GOAT convo. 2 back to back rings as the best player, on the best team 🤷‍♀️

    • @saiyaninfuture
      @saiyaninfuture 10 місяців тому +2

      He joined a team that beat him bro

    • @gumballwaterson1957
      @gumballwaterson1957 10 місяців тому

      Every other top 10 player except for Duncan and Wilt can say the exact same thing and more. GOAT means greatest of all time. How tf KD got a case for best player in the NBA has ever seen when he hasn't accomplished more than at least 10 other players?

    • @justineebourgeois3420
      @justineebourgeois3420 10 місяців тому

      @@gumballwaterson1957 KD is much more skilled than Duncan, & Wilt faced farmers and plumbers 🤷‍♀️.

    • @justineebourgeois3420
      @justineebourgeois3420 10 місяців тому

      @@saiyaninfuture The Warriors needed KD to defeat LeBron 🤷‍♀️

    • @gumballwaterson1957
      @gumballwaterson1957 10 місяців тому

      @@justineebourgeois3420 The current NBA finals MVP brags about being a farmer. So a farmer is waxing the league right now. KD can't beat the big slow white farmer right now. At least Wilt beat the ones he played against since we trying to play that game.

  • @S1MEONTV
    @S1MEONTV 10 місяців тому +2

    Shaq been on like 10 nba teams talm bout I didn’t know that was acceptable

    • @cheetahturner4576
      @cheetahturner4576 10 місяців тому +1

      6teams least few he was old just lookin for ring but his prime 3teams orlando,lakers,heat

    • @ownthelibs
      @ownthelibs 10 місяців тому +1

      When he was old

    • @alejandrorojas2253
      @alejandrorojas2253 10 місяців тому +1

      😂

  • @Snaparachi
    @Snaparachi 10 місяців тому +3

    KD should be in this conversation

  • @Miguel17764
    @Miguel17764 10 місяців тому +2

    I like how outta nowwhere Lou Will is gone and they got Shaq’s cousin.

  • @BigDawgBoy
    @BigDawgBoy 10 місяців тому +4

    Everybody focus on his decision making . That has nothing to do with talent. He a goat . Because he would give your favorite player 50 .

    • @davidwilliams5854
      @davidwilliams5854 10 місяців тому +1

      Not if your favorite player is Tatum I saw Tatum shut him down in the playoffs 😂😂😂

    • @sleyterdelacruz1965
      @sleyterdelacruz1965 10 місяців тому +1

      He only dropped 55 1 time lol

    • @BigDawgBoy
      @BigDawgBoy 10 місяців тому +2

      @@sleyterdelacruz1965 drop 50 9 different times what are you saying?

    • @colinnixon7739
      @colinnixon7739 10 місяців тому +1

      So could AI. So could melo. So could wilt. So could tmac. Scoring is like the main thing most hof do 😂😂

    • @BigDawgBoy
      @BigDawgBoy 10 місяців тому

      @@colinnixon7739 okay what’s your point? Because I’m taking KD over all of them you just name?

  • @yousefreno2089
    @yousefreno2089 10 місяців тому +1

    Him joining the warriors and joining back to back to back super teams to ring chase ruined his entire career. KD is someone you want to play like but you don’t want to follow his footsteps

  • @severenowoods5471
    @severenowoods5471 10 місяців тому +3

    To say KD is not one of the greatest is not hating. Plain and simple he doesn’t deserve goat status.

    • @lvpradagucci5539
      @lvpradagucci5539 10 місяців тому

      Then lebron doesn't either he lost to kd twice in the finals u sound stupid fool

  • @tommyjoe136
    @tommyjoe136 10 місяців тому +1

    Y'all on crack. KD wouldn't have a ring without GSW. He is NOT in the conversation. Until he wins with his own team he is just a good player. Shaq did it, Kobe did it, LeBron did it. KD??

  • @kennethanderson2988
    @kennethanderson2988 10 місяців тому +1

    KD is great. But, he doesn’t deserve to be in that convo. He took the term you can’t beat em join em to a new level.

  • @JBthe3rd
    @JBthe3rd 9 місяців тому

    Some Notabale Names from Shaqs 05-06 Miami Heat Championship Team: Stan Van Gundy, Pat Riley,Bob McAdoo, Erik Spoelstra, Jason Williams (White Chocolate), Antoine Walker, Derek Anderson, Gary Payton, James Posey, Udonis Haslem, Alonzo Mourning, Dwyane Wade and SHAQ 😅

  • @TheRulersBack18
    @TheRulersBack18 10 місяців тому

    crazy how ppl are committed to misunderstanding shaq lmao. if shaq left the magic to join the bulls after the 96 season, or if lebron left the cavs to join the celtics after the 2010 season, or if mj joined the magic after the 95 season, these would've been comparable to what durant did. that's why it's nuts and not the same as kg/allen coming to boston or lebron/bosh going to miami, etc.

  • @chenrayen
    @chenrayen 10 місяців тому

    Oh boy I haven’t clicked a vid so fast in a while

  • @auronedgevicks7739
    @auronedgevicks7739 10 місяців тому +1

    Yea sure this is the "me too" era, everyone gets a prize. Everyone is special even if they have no accolades

  • @will3pr
    @will3pr 10 місяців тому

    Kevin Durant is the reason why we’re seeing big men handle the ball like guards now, if that’s not impact then idk what is I guess. He definitely deserves to be considered at least Top 10 along with Curry and Bron somewhere in there.

  • @jordanwilliams5245
    @jordanwilliams5245 10 місяців тому +1

    Saying someone ain’t the goat ain’t disrespect. And we got to stop putting everyone on the goat debate
    Cuz everyone adding someone just cuz they do something different
    Goat debate
    MJ v.s JORDAN
    That’s it

  • @mdelg030
    @mdelg030 10 місяців тому

    If KD is in the conversation, Shaq is in the conversation. And KD hasn’t surpassed Shaq yet. Shaq is underrated.

  • @karzanrundownn
    @karzanrundownn 10 місяців тому +1

    Before yall say shaq don’t like kd you wrong he don’t respect his decision as a dominant player

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 10 місяців тому +2

    You get removed out of the GOAT conversation when you need to jump from team to team to ring chase... Sorry KD, Sorry LeBRONZ... GOATS don't jump ship like cowards do.

  • @mambalevel1017
    @mambalevel1017 10 місяців тому +1

    The fact the warriors drafted those guys and paid KD the same as what Harrison Barnes signed for….. Only proves the lebron fans are salty as fuck. His 2 moves were worse than KD but he’s a born choke artist!!! Even with team USA he got bronze

  • @jaypream162
    @jaypream162 10 місяців тому

    Shaq also went to the Heat after they already won a chip. He also went to the Cavs to try to win a ring with Lebron after Kobe won without him. He’s beating his chest talking about he did it within the rules, but KD didn’t break any rules. He was a FREE agent, meaning free to go wherever he wanted to.

  • @DB-dc4ig
    @DB-dc4ig 10 місяців тому

    The next question, when talking about the GOAT, is in what setting? Blacktop, where nothing matters but skills, or a League with accolades definds greatness?

  • @idrisrichardson
    @idrisrichardson 10 місяців тому

    That’s why i love Lou will man yall can hate that man all yall want but he’s definitely one of the greatest of all time 🤷🏾‍♂️💯

  • @sp3ckogaming831
    @sp3ckogaming831 10 місяців тому

    When Shaq speaks it makes me want to clear my throat. Mf make me think "I" have mucus in my throat LOL

  • @seshadhri_s
    @seshadhri_s 10 місяців тому +1

    "We''ve never seen anything like it" is not a real argument. By that logic, we have never seen anyone like Wemby before. Should he be in the GOAT conversation already as a rookie? STFU.

  • @prettycatlick4373
    @prettycatlick4373 10 місяців тому

    1st lemme ask if you got Timmy in the convo.

  • @TheMayimbe1
    @TheMayimbe1 10 місяців тому

    One of the most iconic moments in KD careers was when he told Draywond while shaking his head: that’s why I’m out. Naaah .

  • @melkadyo
    @melkadyo 10 місяців тому

    greatest of all time - like what charles said. there are tiers.