In Germany there has been an "E" committee for many decades which focused on OTC and herbal supplements to make sure that they are safe. The USA needs to do the same.
The US Government tried to do just that! But the natural dietary supplement companies put up a large aggressive lobby to stop it!! Through the agressive fear-mongering TV, etc Adverts, intense gov't lobbying, they implied that the gov't wanted to take away their vitamins! Absurd notion! Yet, it succeeded, public was outraged and supported the companies that didn't want to be regulated! The Gov't felt huge public, etc pressure to stop and abandon their helpful new law to regulate! People can be ignorant! Human Safety has to take priority over lobbying!
Unfortunately we have a lot of people in the US who don't believe that any business should be regulated in any way. They sure will gripe when they get ripped off, but cannot connect the two pieces.
I took Losartan for years. At two separate times in 2018 my pharmacy notified me that my bottle of Losartan was from a batch that was contaminated (with jet fuel) and made in the Phillipines. The contamination had cancer causing ingredients. I was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer named Muscinous. My concern about the current drive to make our prescriptions in the US less expensive is manufacturing in other countries who may have issues with lack of inspection or the like.
Cheap meds don't affect quality look at the UK with the NHS I don't pay anything up front I pay tax but it's a lot less than the us and supplements are regulated here just like medicine
@@Sierraomega1991 Do you not pay for your prescriptions? I pay all my taxes, I'm a private patient for my dental care because the NHS waiting list is 4 yrs. I still have to pay for my prescriptions. I have to pay for each item individually even if the doctor gives me one green prescription form.
It blows my mind that they kept referring to this as a “disease” and blaming tryptophan. This was a poisoning. Tryptophan was not the cause. The substance in the tryptophan caused it. As soon as they realized there was a 2nd case, why didn’t they immediately compare the brands, and test the bottles each patient had? Finally at 34:30 it says researchers contacted the victims to find out what brand they had been taking. The video says this was “weeks after” this had started. Should have done this immediately.
That was my first question when the 2nd victim was found. And why no tests on all the bottles of supplements they were taking. And why not compare the brand names of the victims. I would have done it differently.
It's to do with the way this doco presents the info. We know it's tryptophan very early; what we don't see are the many other equally plausible theories put forward, the many other factors in common with the patients (they're all women around the same age, for instance, and it could have been something which caused the insomnia that LED to the use of the tryptophan), or the process by which things were ruled out. This actually happened incredibly fast for a study and discovery of the actual contaminant.
It is a disease though. Any disorder of structure or function is a disease. If you are not in "good health" you have a disease. The type of disease was due to poisoning.
I was working at a natural food coop in 1989. I had the supplements section. I remember people clamoring for the stuff after it was yanked. Great to hear the explanation for this now.
I always list the supplements I take, to give the doctor. Just fyi. Name, doseage, size of portion. I check with Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, and one other great source I can't remember! 🤦♀ Sometimes I look at other sources ... it's amazed me that so many doctors have created websites with half-as*ed advice. I've found one doctor tho, I like, when I backchecked on him I found out (among other things) that he'd graduated first in his class at med school. This only takes a few minutes on the 'Net.
@@veramae4098 It's not convenient to the "health" industry that people get healthy naturally. I believe this was designed to scare people off from trusting the use of natural supplements. See, it hurts them where is most vulnerable for them: their huge pockets (that comes from keeping people sick).
Scary thing is, in the US the supplement market still isn't regulated to this day (2021) and they've had other incidents. I can't exactly remember all the details but I do remember reading about an incident during the early 2010s that people were poisoned by green tea extract supplement that either contained arsenic or lead. Things really need to change, nothing that we consume should be allowed to slip through bureaucratic loopholes and end up killing or sickening people.
I was taking a supplement and turns out when I switched stores that I was buying it from the lack of any real quality control in the market meant the product I believed I was getting was counterfeit leading to me developing acute liver failure.... We really need to get supplements more regulated
my brother got into the green tea craze. So its good for you, more is better, and he drank a lot of it, until his kidneys began show distress. He stopped drink the green tea, and the kidney issue cleared up. (as for me, I have ckd due to a rare kidney disease. And I never drank the stuff.)
My friend's dad, he pasted at the age of 93, used to go to the doctor, got the medicine but never took it. When ask why the effort and expense and than not using it he said: the doctor have to live, the pharmacist have to live and he have to live as well.
Just because doctors and pharmacists earn a living doing what they do, does not mean the entire medical field is nefarious. Millions and millions of people possibly billions in the world are alive and many well because of medicine. I am one of them. And I'm very very grateful for the medical field and for medicine
@@michah321100% it’s amazing to see a FULL CURE for some diseases. My kitten got fip which was previously a fatal disease in days, weeks, or maybe a year with a lot of supportive care. It’s not legal here yet due to testing not being completed, but there is a treatment. It’s a big deal and pretty expensive but it works. There’s a Facebook group that will get you the right thing and dosage. My baby was within hours of death, 6 seizures in an hour and a half every time he fell asleep. 3 months of really painful shots later, he’s a very happy, healthy, chunky boi. I’m actually shocked he doesn’t even seem to have any lasting brain damage, he was falling over when he turned his head, could barely use his back legs, and his eyes were all messed up but now he’s completely fine and not on any meds at all. His blood work wasn’t wonderful but he was really sick as a baby when I got him as a foster and presumably has some inbreeding so it’s not all that surprising. He has a checkup in a few weeks but his ultrasound was perfect. We visit the ER staff who saved him when we go to the neurologist so they get to see a healthy pet for once. I thought I’d be safe bc all of my cats are shelter cats so they’re mutts which should prevent things like this but we’re pretty sure there’s a white Tom impregnating his relatives and having beautiful but very often sick babies.
Why you thought this comment was pertinent to a video about a tainted, unregulated health supplement is beyond me. While I agree with not over medicating yourself with unnecessary pharmaceuticals, I also think it's silly to refuse all medical interventions.
You don't take a supplement that has been used for a decade and all of a sudden start dieing from it unless something different is put in to that supplement!
I had a very similar proplem ,white blood count continuing to climb, seen a blood specialist every 2 mouth to monitor while I got sicker and sicker. One night I sat up at 2amfrom a sound seep and said it's my pain medication. I spoke with my specialist and she did not believed my dream. As test I told her we should change this med and she allowed this to please me. Within 2 mouth my white count had fallen greatly to the high side of normal and continued to fall to normal. I think this surprised a lot of people what ever made up that pill had something in it that my body found toxic and turned my amune system against me.
Dreams are amazing things. You were smart to listen to yours. My spiritual path, Eckankar, places a very high value on dreams. And this is how I’ve had great protection, healing, love, and more. I chant the old word for God, HU & it opened the doors to my dreams of the future, as well as past lives.
Always monitor you health closely when starting a new medicine! Sometimes it is even necessary to keep a diary of events so you don’t forget a few important events.
My dog had renal failure, developed weak legs unable to use them, oedema from Onsior, Tramadol. I did not made the connection. Antibiotics made holes in his flesh, skin fell out. I lost him to murder also by the vet, not even sedating him first. I csn write a book about doctors. Furious i feel.
I feel like the first half could have been shortened to just a few sentences...... Filling time by stating the obvious...... Also, I feel like a contamination issue isn't an "outbreak" of a disease.....
This is a very old story, it happened in 1989, over 30 years ago. Now we know what happened and we know L-Tryptophan is not the culprit. L-Tryptophan has been back on the American market since 2005. Keep in mind that the Japanese manufacturer produced L-Tryptophan with genetically modified bacteria and the contamination resulted in the production of D-Tryptophan which is an optical isomer of L-Tryptophan.
Actually, it _was_ the culprit. More specifically, the contaminant called "peak E" and since 2001 identified as 1,1′-ethylidenebis[l-tryptophan] was the culprit. The terrible effects appear to be an allergic reaction to that contaminant, explaining why not everybody was suffering so badly.
When 'just fibromyalgia' is mercury poisoning from vaccines and fillings and other stuff try removing it. Iodine drops and chromium picolinate (bluebonnet is 30 % better for me)and much later I added vanadyl sulfate-20 and improved it more. Of a 3 drop Trace brand recommendation I took a dropper full in water. The next morning I was at 20 or 25% reduced pain. Only 12 hours of relief, so I dosed 2x daily, all at 7 drops and a cap of chromium. That got me to zero pain by about day 10. I was not able to work down to 4 drops 1x daily until about month 7 or 8. This should wreck my Thyoid but it got me off that thyroid med or my intermittent fasting killed that parasite. I could walk 10 yards, now I go hiking. I had near tears to get up mornings and now I rarely remember that. Another great detox is Floressence tea 2x daily 3 or 4 months. Make with water that didn't touch plastic or Floride and refrigerate. . See letters in the back of the book The Essiac Report...shocking what symptoms it reversed including my Lupus when GMOS and pesticides were dropped, plus a 6 week sever keto diet to kill the Lupus parasite. My friend did this all in the same 6 weeks and was cured according to blood test and symptoms at day 42. Sleep well by day 14. We had both been at the spontaneous falling stage. The mercury poisoning shocks were gone week 3 or 4 I think. But that was 20 years ago. The proper iodine use is paint the red one (Lugols) on your stomach in a 5 by 10 inch rectangle every morning until it is not slurped up by your body by evening. Then skip for 2 or 4 weeks. Floressence tea gently removes pesticides and heavy metals. Do it yearly for the same 3 months because you still have the same life. God Bless
Sounds like toxins in the muscle and possibly fat, this reminds me of the listetia episode. Pineapple and strawberries help with muscle tension. Cranberries help with detox and so does blueberries.
Monopolies discourage small businesses in America from making any drugs or supplements. If we buy our drugs and supplements from other countries, we had better be on good terms with them. I think it's important for National security to make at least the most essential drugs here.
Steven Believe me none forces USA to use China as labor work.Only the cheap manpower it enough reason for that and who cares If Congo sell politicaly corect good diamond or uranium depleted
It's a sad state of affairs when a companies right to profits is put before the lives of the people. As soon as they suspected that supplement they should have issued a warning to prevent anyone else from being harmed while they were working on testing it.
This is old... L-Tryptophan is back on the market in the US and has been for years (since 2005). One manufacturer in Japan was producing L-Tryptophan with genetically modified bacteria, but contamination resulted in production of D-Tryptophan, an optical isomer of L-Tryptophan.
I remember when this happened. I was 19 or 20 at the time, and occasionally taking tryptophan for sleep. It worked well, and I was disappointed when it was withdrawn from the market due to a manufacturing error. (This was suspected even way back when.). It’s interesting to view this tragedy in light of some more current “treatments”…how many victims is “too many”? I guess it depends on how much money is to be made/lost.
It's a TV show that's been put on YT. It wasn't made by the uploader, they just upload loads of great TV shows, like diagnosis unknown, fbi files, new detectives etc
@@markmitchell450 I respect your point of view. I pay for UA-cam premium, so it’s no skin off my back. But, there are people, millions, if not billions, that cannot watch these programs in their country. The uploader is providing these programs for them. Half of the time, a copyright strike is given, and if the uploader agrees, the advertising money on the video, goes to the originating production company that created the program itself. If they do not copyright the video, the uploader is making maybe $10/USD per 10,000 viewers.
It sad how you see people suffer from these horrible disease and they die it just show how short life can be and how we much appreciate as much as we can
This happened in 1989, this post should have included when. At least post that in the description. Currently we are dealing with the coronaviruse. Post about that.
EccentricSage, Yes... *Recalls,* after they did *much* research and testing meds, but, by then, lives were lost. I'm talking about warning people of the dangers, ahead of time. 👍I understand the concern for causing a panic, but, a little panic may save lives. IJS. 😕
EccentricSage, I personally, have never been comfortable with seeking supplemental assistance for my health. As a child, mom began us on vitamins, but as an adult, I avoid all medications, unless absolutely necessary. Better safe than sorry. 👍😉
I remember this happened when I was really little. I was 5 years old but I paid attention to the news even back then. But I didn’t understand everything, so I thought tryptophan was always poison. My parents were surprised when they mentioned the natural tryptophan in turkey and I said I’d thought that was a dangerous chemical. They were surprised I remembered the tainted tryptophan.
Kathy Myers That one happened a year before I was born. Though it wasn’t the Tylenol itself...it was the cyanide someone put in it. (The perp STILL hasn’t been caught from that, BTW...)
Robert Gardea Nah, my parents just made sure I watched the news at an early age unless a story had graphic stuff that wasn’t age-appropriate. Most medical stuff I could handle though. I’m not sure exactly but I got my first kids’ epidemiology book probably 4 years afterwards.
Half way thru and I'm thinking why aren't they checking the bottles of tryptophan, the batch numbers, the contents? See if the connection is the actual product and not just the amino acid. I'm frustrated at this point. YES FINALLY almost at end of show they look at which bottles the victims used and the manufacture process. A company in Japan using raw tryptophan from a bacterial process and genetically tinkering with it were finally to blame.
Yep a smear on all tryptophan from the pharmaceutical company's who kill thousands every year year after year. Side effects and combo effects. Rediculois propaganda.
Not the first time this happened. Tryptophan was banned years ago. And after being one of America's biggest fads for a decade between 1979 and 1989, it afflicted as many as 5,000 people with a rare blood disease and killed 38 of them. The pill was L-tryptophan, an economically priced amino acid once readily available in health food stores around the country. Now it is banned.Jan 4, 1996 Sun Sentinel › news › fl-xpm-1... 'MIRACLE PILL' OF '80S TURNED OUT TO BE DEADLY - Sun Sentinel
@@crisbrackett2067 Guess they forgot deaths in 1980's. And after being one of America's biggest fads for a decade between 1979 and 1989, it afflicted as many as 5,000 people with a rare blood disease and killed 38 of them. The pill was L-tryptophan, an economically priced amino acid once readily available in health food stores around the country. Now it is banned.Jan 4, 1996 Sun Sentinel › news › fl-xpm-1... 'MIRACLE PILL' OF '80S TURNED OUT TO BE DEADLY - Sun Sentinel
solisium...Monsanto has been taken over by nazis. They are making biological warfare to use worldwide. Our waterways are poisoned already. The fish are being eaten by a mysterious toxin or bacteria...it is spreading from the Chesapeake bay and the surrounding waters and heading north. Don't eat fish or any seafood that is fresh caught. This is a deadly killer of fish and also attacks fishermen and affects them neurologically. It's very deadly. Sorry I don't have a link, but it's on you tube.
@Jacqueline Campbell The veil of secrecy is lifting, but not fast enough. It's mind blowing...we don't know whom to trust. We have entered a dark tunnel, with a long way to go, before we reach the light at the end. We are being manipulated, used, lied to, and intimidated with fear tactics. Our constitutional rights are being spat upon by greedy, corrupted monsters.
Well that depends, if they where cremated, probably not, even if they where buried, well still probably not, considering the decomposition of their bodies, but they would be lying down. Not sure how long dead bodies have eyelids for, but for a start they would probably be closed. Sorry 😞 but that is the truth and reality of death. At least they are no longer in pain. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
*XX* "would of" *XX* It's "would have'" or "would've" (the latter being oft mistaken for the nonsensical "would of", by children and the under-educated).
I totally agree, it’s driving me nuts watching this. I keep saying “test the product, test the product’. It’s not until 75% into the video that they start to talk about doing that testing. When you hear the statement “to increase the yield, the manufacturer tinkered with some of the genes” it really does get scary. 🐿🙂
They could have just examined the L-tryptophan pills right away if those were tainted without going through door-to-door to find out if there are other victims.
Hi Bill. I was so excited to see your story here because I was still living in Albuquerque at the time & heard of your role in this discovery. I saved my own bottle of rarely used L-trytophan as a souvenir when I moved back to California, before finally tossing it out.
@@jacqueline8559 I kept my that bottle because I worked with one of the doctors who discovered the connection. I was glad I only used the L-tryptophan once or twice.
They never tell you what the contaminant is. It’s isolated and its molecular structure read, but we’re not given any information about it. GIVE THIS A PASS.
WOW.....they said to this day the contaminate has never been identified. I'll give L-Tryptophan a miss! I'd rather eat foods which carry the essential amino acid such as: Bananas Cheese Chocolate Dried dates Eggs Milk Fish Oats Pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds Soy Tofu Tree nuts, including peanuts and peanut butter
This is dramatised and does not represent reality. They do it so you and other can get this feeling that you realise something before everybody else. On the downside, it creates an unreasonable suspicion towards experts. Don't take your knowledge from entertainment.
@@pixibelle3282 i believe they said their testing was inconclusive. maybe something like the current drug removal where outside the body there is not thing dangerous but once in the body chemical reaction produces same drug they use to induce cancer in lab rats.
Should be taken off the counter. My mom had survived the effects of this poisoning but she was riddled with serious symptoms from taking this and was in touch with other survivors. She was about 68 at that time and many years ago. She passed at 89. I found a lot of paperwork that she kept about this .. but at the time not many medical personnel heard of it .
@@sargentsakto9236 I know that's what they said, but do a search on line and you will see they sell it everywhere in the U.S. so they must have lifted the ban.
When they said supplements I immediately knew it was the eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome outbreak that is associated with the consumption of L-tryptophan supplements.
So why did they ban L-tryptophan ? The problem was in the binder. Note: There is no greater genius than what it takes to be an organic chemist. You have to be versed in chemistry, physics, and mathematics. They are the unsung heroes in our society.
I’ve never heard Organic Chemistry praised, but it was my favorite subject in getting my degree. It’s something you can apply sensibly to every day life. I’m no genius nor hero, but I sure appreciate the kudos for them, Mr. Ted Phillips 👍
Because there's no proof. there have been cases of EMS associated with L-tryptophan supplements - from the Japanese firm and from other unrelated firms - that weren't contaminated with the contaminant that was thought to be linked with EMS. there were also cases from unknown sources and one case of someone eating too many cashew nuts that contain tryptophan naturally. No one really knows what caused it, the first theory was the contaminated batches from a Japanese company that changed its filtration method by reducing the activating charcoal used for filtration by half, but it doesn't explain other occurrences that happened before and after the big outbreak. That and the fact that L-Tryptophan exploded in popularity right before the big outbreak points to L-tryptophan itself- either alone or in combination with some other contributing factor - being the culprit of EMS in susceptible individuals.
I bet the “cooperative” Japanese company probably paid off the investigators to find nothing. If you isolate a chemical compound, you can tell exactly what it is by doing mass spectrometry and gas chromatography. Why didn’t they tell us what the chemical was???!!! That would be a simple test. Also, they didn’t test the tryptophan sample for biological activity for Bacterial or viral DNA. They could have amplified the DNA in the sample. They should’ve done those two easy tests, but conveniently decided not to. This sounds almost like a bad vaccine reaction, where the body overreacts. They should have done chelation and a blood transfusion right away.
@@hannahzion9158 well that sounds like about right Hannah. Because of this company they pulled out all the l.tryptophan off the shelves in America.was waiting for the name of the company they didn't even show it on the bottle. and I wonder if this particular batch was only made to be sold in America? hence we would be the only one picking up this ems.. I can't believe no other please in Japan ever had the same reaction like we got in America with EMS so it sounds like a cover-up
George Plagianos I remember l-tryptophan being banned despite insufficient research when I operated a naturopathic clinic and health food store in Canada until 1996. Decades later I learn that the identified batch was harmful and even deadly due to genetically modified properties.
@@hannahzion9158 Interesting you should say it sounds like a bad vaccine reaction, because my husband had that and ended up with transverse myelitis, which paralyzed him and nearly killed him. They gave him high doses of steroids to halt the progress of it. They tested him for everything before they settled on the TM diagnosis.
I’m only half way through but I’m wondering why they didn’t collect the pill bottles of the stricken women and test the pills. They may have even found that those who were sick were taking the same brand or even the same lot #. I’ll have to watch the rest.
NOT a 'disease' when it's caused by a substance overdose. An 'intolerance', sometimes fatal, at best, similar to an allergy reaction, which can also kill.
This is not genetic modification. Humans have done this for millennia via selective breeding. It is about “natural” supplements taken at 1,000s of times their natural level - and thereby no longer natural. This can occur with Vitamins D, E, A and K. If you take too much of these fat- soluble supplements, they accumulate and cause damage. Over-the-counter supplements are not safe if you take them at massive doses. Even water, taken to the extreme, can be deadly.
This video was not about genetic modification but rather a change in a process for producing a product. But you are right to be worried. Just be careful what you put in your mouth.
Exactly...the FDA regulates prescriptions and most of the drugs that people buy over the counter in the US, but "natural supplements" don't fall under regulations...and they can be very dangerous.
Plenty of people get sick and die from prescription medications too, as well as food; A multistate Escherichia coli outbreak linked to romaine lettuce grew by 4 deaths and 25 cases, according to an update today from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The CDC has now confirmed 197 cases in 35 states and 5 deaths in this outbreak. Three more states-Arkansas, North Carolina, and Oklahoma-reported sick people since the CDC's previous update on May 16. The four new fatal cases occurred in Arkansas (1), Minnesota (2), and New York (1). Eighty-nine people have been hospitalized since the outbreak began in March, including 26 people who developed hemolytic uremic syndrome, a serious kidney complication. According to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), this is the largest E coli outbreak in a decade.
Most all of your vitamin supplements would fall under natural supplements. For those of us who have severe vitamin deficiencies have no choice but to take said vitamins.
Two days of taking Effexor gave me "broken heart syndrome.". My heart felt like a small circular pillow, enlarged, numb. The beat felt sluggish, soft, not a precise beat. The doctors have not 100% believed me but it scared the daylights out of me. It was years before I knew what it was called. But I have clear memories of how it felt and the fear I felt.
@@Buttersausage I've added my symptoms above. It felt like my heart filled the left chest area. At the same time i imagined it was like a round pillow, soft, sluggish, This was late 1990s. I had internet access but searching for symptoms was useless. When I ran across symptoms and a name I could find information.
It blows me away that they still have no idea how to deal with this or how the contaminates cause so much destruction. If anything it spotlights the dangers of genetically modified organisms being used and going into our food and medicines
@CJ If you think breeding plants and animals for specific traits is the same thing as removing DNA from one creature and putting in another. You should think again. And if you believe the use genetic modification of plants to survive tons of Roundup is a safe practice there is no hope for you. I am not a fan of untested supplements. But, I am no fan of the lies that make up so many "scientific" research papers either. If you did not know, 40% of all scientific papers done over the last 20 years are non-reproducible. And the French researchers proved that is exactly what the papers showing the safety of Roundup are. 90 days is no substitute for lifetime monitoring of rats exposed to carcinogens.
@Suspicious Ned Flanders genetic engineering is direct manipulation of genetic code... it bypasses all of the safeguards and limits that are found in nature and that cannot be bypassed with breeding.
So, genetic engineering (tampering) with the bacteria in the manufacturing process which was not for the purpose of making a better product but as stated for the benefit of profit. Can we not see a correlation with the genetic engineering and genetic modification of our food products? And we as consumers are not allowed to choose conventionall vs. gmo at the market in the form of labeling.
You can choose not to buy GMO. Just read the labels on the products you buy. Those that say Non-GMO are advertising as such to make more money than those that do use GMO products. There are plenty of laws restricting labeling. If you don't trust what you read, do not buy the product.
It would be great if the FDA took control over supplements. If they do not, it would be super great if USA drug prescription plans would allow doctors to write scripts to allow the needed supplements, verified by blood work, to be covered and provided by licensed pharmacists.
Really They have allowed Big Pharma to kill millions ! They do not test the drugs that big Pharma sells! They make their billions, and pay out for a few dead and dying ! Big business and big Pharma have made people sick from processed foods and drugs that cure nothing! Great great FDA money talks!
I do not trust the FDA. But I agree it would be good if supplements were held to a consistent standard, tested randomly, & the results available easily to the general public. Many of us cannot afford Rx man-made medicines, or cannot tolerate various ingredients in them, so we buy supplements that [we hope] are closer to natural. Yes it would be wonderful if Dr 's could/would prescribe supplements! But so few doctors even know about them --- & to be fair, there is a TON of supplements out there to learn about; I doubt anyone really knows all about each one. German doctors can prescribe both ( man-made pharmaceuticals or natural products), but I don't know how their health care system is set up.
Do your research! As a consumer we have to empower ourselves to take a proactive approach to what we put in our bodies. 'Supplements' are a booming, money sponging scheme. They are not regulated. Most of those sold are completely useless; they tout extraordinary doses that our bodies simply excrete bc we can't absorb them, many vitamins require the presence of other vitamins/minerals in order to absorb or work efficiently within our bodies, quality matters... it's almost criminal what they get away with. Do your research and learn about what you're putting in your body. Many are perfectly fine and even beneficial but are often more expensive (for good reason).
Increíble ordeal that these people have to endure, totally horrible. Thank God some of them survived to tell their stories. But at the same time it is very tragic the ones who died due to L-Tryptophan consumption, very sad indeed. I hope the survivors eventually regain their health back. Very interesting video and extremely informative and educational as well. Thank you for sharing it, it is an eye opener for those who likes to try anything over-the-counter without doing research firsthand. Supplements like any medicines can kill you and one should be very careful as to what goes inside our bodies! I know I am.
@@nom3nnescio Don’t be a freaking idiot and a troll! When I refer to GOD, I am referring to GOD THE CREATOR, THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU AND EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, GIVING YOU A SOUL; YES, yes, a freaking S O U L. Without a SOUL you are simply DEAD, you don’t exist! It is that clear to you???? GOD THE CREATOR also CREATED THE COSMOS, THE UNIVERSE, THE PLANETS, and everything else in SPACE! He created the HEAVENS. I don’t believe at all in the Big Bang Theory! It is the most ridiculous and ignorant thing to say. Behind the Universe and all it has, there is a BRILLIANT, INFINITE, A MOST INDEFINITE MIND THAT EXISTS that we, humans, CANNOT HAVE IT EVER! 🙄 Having said that, YOU believe what you want, I don’t care NOR your beliefs HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO ME! Do I make myself clear now??? 🙄🙄 Jesus of Nazareth and All His Disciples….IGNORANCE is a SIN rather than a bliss. My my, I am appalled at YOUR ILLITERACY! No need to answer me back, I don’t engage in stupid conversations-like yours-. I like to talk to INTELLIGENT PEOPLE and not to TROLLS like you.
This happened in fall 1989, only in the USA! Since then, tainted tryptophan hasn't made any cases. Luckily. 🙏 And in Europe, where supplements are very controlled, no cases at all. 👌
Like the bird flu where they killed millions of chickens and ducks due to illness. A few years later, there are treats for dogs made from chicken and duck. I have no proof, but the animals weren't incinerated. They were freeze dried, stored until the panic passed, then sold them as dog treats. With the food shortage(protein) in China these pieces of dried meat look perfectly edible. . I never bought them, but plenty of people do.
There have been cases of people getting this syndrome who have never taken the supplement, particularly people who are a lot of cashews which has a high amount of the amino acid in it.
@@l.antoinetteanderson3736 It was identified in 2001 as 1,1′-ethylidenebis[l-tryptophan] and the effects were from an allergic reaction... thus the relative scarcity of the illnesses.
Labels dont matter- they are EASY to fake, what do you think?? they are just printed off on a machine with whatever they put in the template, and if they FORGED a CARB certification on laminated flooring and shipped it to Lumber Liquidators in the USA which sickened scores of people, well, a little paper label on a bottle is a piece of cake to forge or fake too! It's as easy to change as an email or text document! Managers at the flooring plant in China ADMITTED they faked the CARB certificate ua-cam.com/video/dWu4gO9ZhKs/v-deo.html
That helps, but not reliable! Parts of our dry cold cereals are made in China! Yet, it doesn't say so on the packages!! Could be the same with many other products!
Yep, it scary to think that not all over the counter "medication" is safe. Luckily I have never been a fan of supplements that are easily available to anyone, and is displayed in huge quantities at all drug stores.
Read an article about supplements in the New Yorker years ago that really shocked me! No regulation!!! And I'm assuming this is still true. How can our government be so stupid!!! Don't take over the counter supplements. Period.
I remember this when I was working at the old St Joseph Hospital in Albuquerque in the late 1980’s. L-Tryptophan was d/c’d because it was causing abnormal labs. H.Somme’ R.N.
Um. Almost every time I go to the doctor's, I am asked to list all the medications, vitamins, supplements I am taking. Why did it take six months to notice that these victims were taking the same supplement?
I had a laptop like the one at 16:13 in middle school circa 1998 (and it was old then)! I love all the old technology in here, especially having worked in hospital informatics before.
This will be the age of lab created biological weapons tested on target populations. There is no other reason for so many mysterious diseases in a culture that considers itself developed. And I cannot forget how many microbiologists have been dropping dead over the past three or four years under mysterious causes, accidents, suicide, etc......I am not the only one asking such questions; there have been multiple articles written about this. Yet doctors never know what they are dealing with? Can it be that they are dealing with modified bacteria weaponized in Labs by genetically modified organisms for which Humanity has no immunity?
I found this interesting, the body attacking itself reminded me of lupus. Many symptoms are the same. I wonder why they feel the need to put music on. This is supposed to be informative, not simply entertainment. Anyhow, the music was very distracting for me.
As a respiratory therapist of 34 years, and who attended many emergency situations, I find the medical proceedures shown in these to be so fake. For example, in the beginning of this film a defibrillator was used on the patient's stomach. Um, no. When a ventilator is in a room where a patient is not in need of ventilatory support is fake. Vents are not kept in patient rooms. 😂 I could go on.
I am surprised that the drug was not immediately assessed for toxin. Most over the counter drugs don't always have exactly what is in them. For example the amount might be different too little or too much.
Normal toxicology tests test for specific toxins. You have to know what you are looking for, and test for that. In this case, they did not know what they were looking for.
Holy shit i was listening to this as i was falling asleep, could recognized Jerry's voice anywhere and had to Snap up and check. Sure enough! Jerry Gleich is amazing
This is a documentary using some actors to recreate certain incidents. Of course a cameraman is going to be in the house.where ever they could they used the actual person to act as themselves.
My heart goes out to the victims. It seems if this was produced in Japan, it was probably in countries other than the USA. Did any other countries experience similar symptoms? Edit: I looked it up and basically what they have discovered is some people are “sensitive” to something. There’s a case study of EMS from 2009. So it’s still out there, it’s just not an epidemic because only “sensitive” people are susceptible.
It was made in the US using raw materials imported from Japan. Quite possibly the US manufacturers were less diligent about cleaning and filtering their raw materials because of the lax food safety standards regulating the food and supplement market in the USA as compared to other countries (including Japan).
@@jwenting And there's also the fact that the supplement market is unregulated. They were intentionally excluded from being regulated by the FDA through bipartisan efforts. And ppl wonder why I brace for impact when I hear a bill is "bipartisan."
What about fillers and other ingredients even in the capsules? Seem to me the first question should have been were they all using the same brand or a brand from the same manufacturer. Haven’t heard this addressed thus far.
HELL NO!! The moral of the story, is to be a knowledgeable consumer but NOT for the government to take away and regulate an ENORMOUS industry that helps millions. Should we ban spinach because people have gotten echoli? What about beef? Plenty of people have died from problems there, food poisoning etc... Mayonnaise?? Think about what you're saying. Giant reactionary legislation to incidents that happen limit freedom and do very little to improve our lives. Yes, it should be incorporated into food standards as the FDA inspects all food products. But "regulating" the entire supplement market out of hand is not the solution.
HELL NO!! The moral of the story, is to be a knowledgeable consumer but NOT for the government to take away and regulate an ENORMOUS industry that helps millions. Should we ban spinach because people have gotten echoli? What about beef? Plenty of people have died from problems there, food poisoning etc... Mayonnaise?? Think about what you're saying. Giant reactionary legislation to incidents that happen limit freedom and do very little to improve our lives. Yes, it should be incorporated into food standards as the FDA inspects all food products. But "regulating" the entire supplement market out of hand is not the solution.
We should Strictly buy US A items like we did years ago. Even if it cost a little bit more money. These other countries don’t care about themselves or any other country. Follow the money.
You got to be kidding, you know many U.S. companies are no better for example take Monsanto, Johnson and Johnson cancer lawsuit, Bhopal disaster in India killing thousands by guess what Union Carbide a U.S. company. There is so many examples it's too long to list, this effected few in comparison to what you cite as reason to stop importing, if you still believe what you posted you are a fool.
WHATEVER CONTRACT NIXON MADE WITH CHINA NEED TO BE BROKEN ASAP. THEN CHINA MADE CRAP STAY FLOODING IN THE STORES & SEE NO MORE MADE IN THE U.S.A.. GET THE COMPANY BACK, GET THE FOLKS BACK TO WORK. LET'S HAVE THAT PRIDE WE WE ONCE HAD BEFORE. MADE IN THE GOOD OLD U.S. OF A.
If you adjust the playback speed to 1.5 this is much more bearable. These TV shows had to fill a time slot and they would draw out these stories as long as possible. They had to sell powdered soup, soaps, canned foods, shampoos, and SUPPLEMENTS.
Everyone here is missing the point. Supplements are NOT REGULATED AT ALL in America or Canada. Many tested and one third didn't even have the ingredient advertised in it - at all. Doesn't matter where they're made if no one checks anyways. Here in Australia our health supplements industry is regulated and we have excellent quality products that tend to work (funny that) and folks don't get sick due to contaminants and unknown "ingredients"
I wish we could get something like that in the USA but our FDA is so corrupt we don't trust them to look at anything that might cut the profit of the big pharmaceutical companies. For example: Desiccated pig thyroid has been used by hypothyroid patients since the 1800s. When the FDA was formed the desiccated pig thyroid was "grandfathered" and given a designation of "generally accepted as safe and effective", GASE, by the FDA. In the past 10+ years the FDA has done everything possible to shut down the manufacturers and caused shortages. Now they're pushing to force the companies to go through all of steps required for a new drug. That would cause manufacturers to either close down or exponentially raise the price of their product.
I live & am from. New Mexico. This is the first I have heard about this. I have and never will, take things like that. I just don’t do things like that. I think people need to be a lot more careful & Smarter with what they put into their Bodies. Gotta always be safe. Then be sorry.
I tried two of them to try to fall asleep after a hangover. I felt so horrible I should have gone to the ER, and didn't because of bad judgement from the alcohol. I was just lucky.
In Germany there has been an "E" committee for many decades which focused on OTC and herbal supplements to make sure that they are safe. The USA needs to do the same.
The US Government tried to do just that! But the natural dietary supplement companies put up a large aggressive lobby to stop it!! Through the agressive fear-mongering TV, etc Adverts, intense gov't lobbying, they implied that the gov't wanted to take away their vitamins! Absurd notion! Yet, it succeeded, public was outraged and supported the companies that didn't want to be regulated! The Gov't felt huge public, etc pressure to stop and abandon their helpful new law to regulate! People can be ignorant! Human Safety has to take priority over lobbying!
Unfortunately we have a lot of people in the US who don't believe that any business should be regulated in any way. They sure will gripe when they get ripped off, but cannot connect the two pieces.
@ProfCheryl true.
I wish we could. It never sticks though.
For every nutritional supplement that causes an issue, there are probably 100,000 issues from drug problems - including death. Look it up.
I took Losartan for years. At two separate times in 2018 my pharmacy notified me that my bottle of Losartan was from a batch that was contaminated (with jet fuel) and made in the Phillipines. The contamination had cancer causing ingredients. I was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer named Muscinous. My concern about the current drive to make our prescriptions in the US less expensive is manufacturing in other countries who may have issues with lack of inspection or the like.
so very sorry for your situation...
Cheap meds don't affect quality look at the UK with the NHS I don't pay anything up front I pay tax but it's a lot less than the us and supplements are regulated here just like medicine
@@Sierraomega1991 Do you not pay for your prescriptions?
I pay all my taxes, I'm a private patient for my dental care because the NHS waiting list is 4 yrs. I still have to pay for my prescriptions. I have to pay for each item individually even if the doctor gives me one green prescription form.
I take Losartin...but have not heard anything like that. This was posted a year ago, how are you doing now?
I take Losartan for BP
It blows my mind that they kept referring to this as a “disease” and blaming tryptophan. This was a poisoning. Tryptophan was not the cause. The substance in the tryptophan caused it. As soon as they realized there was a 2nd case, why didn’t they immediately compare the brands, and test the bottles each patient had? Finally at 34:30 it says researchers contacted the victims to find out what brand they had been taking. The video says this was “weeks after” this had started. Should have done this immediately.
That was my first question when the 2nd victim was found. And why no tests on all the bottles of supplements they were taking. And why not compare the brand names of the victims. I would have done it differently.
I also couldn't understand why they didn't test the supplement or where it came from. It was my first thought test the pills
I totally agree. And why so many added chemicals? Not necessary.
It's to do with the way this doco presents the info. We know it's tryptophan very early; what we don't see are the many other equally plausible theories put forward, the many other factors in common with the patients (they're all women around the same age, for instance, and it could have been something which caused the insomnia that LED to the use of the tryptophan), or the process by which things were ruled out. This actually happened incredibly fast for a study and discovery of the actual contaminant.
It is a disease though. Any disorder of structure or function is a disease. If you are not in "good health" you have a disease. The type of disease was due to poisoning.
I felt the title was misleading. Tainted blood was never declared the culprit.
yes absolutely misleading. It seems to be a thing with some of the documentaries. Very irritating.
Well, the blood DID become contaminated by the tainted tryptophan.
In New Zealand, nutritional supplements are very tightly controlled by the government!
Great.....how much do they cost and how many are made available for sale?
Epidemiologist are the true hero's of the doctoring theater . the watermans disease in Maryland to north Carolina was a incredible story.
I was working at a natural food coop in 1989. I had the supplements section. I remember people clamoring for the stuff after it was yanked. Great to hear the explanation for this now.
I always list the supplements I take, to give the doctor. Just fyi.
Name, doseage, size of portion.
I check with Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, and one other great source I can't remember! 🤦♀
Sometimes I look at other sources ... it's amazed me that so many doctors have
created websites with half-as*ed advice.
I've found one doctor tho, I like, when I backchecked on him I found out (among other things) that he'd graduated first in his class at med school.
This only takes a few minutes on the 'Net.
@@veramae4098 It's not convenient to the "health" industry that people get healthy naturally. I believe this was designed to scare people off from trusting the use of natural supplements. See, it hurts them where is most vulnerable for them: their huge pockets (that comes from keeping people sick).
Bonnie Bishop is a true fighter!! What an inspiration!
Scary thing is, in the US the supplement market still isn't regulated to this day (2021) and they've had other incidents. I can't exactly remember all the details but I do remember reading about an incident during the early 2010s that people were poisoned by green tea extract supplement that either contained arsenic or lead. Things really need to change, nothing that we consume should be allowed to slip through bureaucratic loopholes and end up killing or sickening people.
I remember that too
I was taking a supplement and turns out when I switched stores that I was buying it from the lack of any real quality control in the market meant the product I believed I was getting was counterfeit leading to me developing acute liver failure.... We really need to get supplements more regulated
Regulation is just a way of making sure NO ONE has access to ANY supplements.
my brother got into the green tea craze. So its good for you, more is better, and he drank a lot of it, until his kidneys began show distress. He stopped drink the green tea, and the kidney issue cleared up. (as for me, I have ckd due to a rare kidney disease. And I never drank the stuff.)
Lyme disease? Oh. Never mind.
My friend's dad, he pasted at the age of 93, used to go to the doctor, got the medicine but never took it. When ask why the effort and expense and than not using it he said: the doctor have to live, the pharmacist have to live and he have to live as well.
Just because doctors and pharmacists earn a living doing what they do, does not mean the entire medical field is nefarious. Millions and millions of people possibly billions in the world are alive and many well because of medicine. I am one of them. And I'm very very grateful for the medical field and for medicine
@@michah321100% it’s amazing to see a FULL CURE for some diseases. My kitten got fip which was previously a fatal disease in days, weeks, or maybe a year with a lot of supportive care. It’s not legal here yet due to testing not being completed, but there is a treatment. It’s a big deal and pretty expensive but it works. There’s a Facebook group that will get you the right thing and dosage. My baby was within hours of death, 6 seizures in an hour and a half every time he fell asleep. 3 months of really painful shots later, he’s a very happy, healthy, chunky boi. I’m actually shocked he doesn’t even seem to have any lasting brain damage, he was falling over when he turned his head, could barely use his back legs, and his eyes were all messed up but now he’s completely fine and not on any meds at all. His blood work wasn’t wonderful but he was really sick as a baby when I got him as a foster and presumably has some inbreeding so it’s not all that surprising. He has a checkup in a few weeks but his ultrasound was perfect. We visit the ER staff who saved him when we go to the neurologist so they get to see a healthy pet for once.
I thought I’d be safe bc all of my cats are shelter cats so they’re mutts which should prevent things like this but we’re pretty sure there’s a white Tom impregnating his relatives and having beautiful but very often sick babies.
Why you thought this comment was pertinent to a video about a tainted, unregulated health supplement is beyond me. While I agree with not over medicating yourself with unnecessary pharmaceuticals, I also think it's silly to refuse all medical interventions.
That's a good one 👍
You don't take a supplement that has been used for a decade and all of a sudden start dieing from it unless something different is put in to that supplement!
I had a very similar proplem ,white blood count continuing to climb, seen a blood specialist every 2 mouth to monitor while I got sicker and sicker. One night I sat up at 2amfrom a sound seep and said it's my pain medication. I spoke with my specialist and she did not believed my dream. As test I told her we should change this med and she allowed this to please me. Within 2 mouth my white count had fallen greatly to the high side of normal and continued to fall to normal. I think this surprised a lot of people what ever made up that pill had something in it that my body found toxic and turned my amune system against me.
Most of them , have side effects
Dreams are amazing things. You were smart to listen to yours. My spiritual path, Eckankar, places a very high value on dreams. And this is how I’ve had great protection, healing, love, and more. I chant the old word for God, HU & it opened the doors to my dreams of the future, as well as past lives.
That was the HOLY SPIRIT telling you it was your pain medication.
Always monitor you health closely when starting a new medicine! Sometimes it is even necessary to keep a diary of events so you don’t forget a few important events.
My dog had renal failure, developed weak legs unable to use them, oedema from Onsior, Tramadol. I did not made the connection.
Antibiotics made holes in his flesh, skin fell out.
I lost him to murder also by the vet, not even sedating him first.
I csn write a book about doctors.
Furious i feel.
I got insomnia, I didn't take pills but learning baking. Now I'm cakes & cookies provider to few coffee shops in my neighborhood.
I feel like the first half could have been shortened to just a few sentences...... Filling time by stating the obvious......
Also, I feel like a contamination issue isn't an "outbreak" of a disease.....
Yeah "drag"
Shortening it isn't very cash money of them
It's not about effeciency it's about relationship...
@@shaneoneill1396
Did he ask for money?
Even God doesn't ask for cash,
You truly should study..
@@livingintongues if he existed, WHY WOULD HE WANT MONEY?!
Good for Japan, taking action as soon as this problem was traced back to their manufacturing.
China should take notes
@richard mccann, so that's why I've been glowing in the dark!!! I thought I was evolving. 😢
@@blindshiva2826 loool 😂😂😂
@@blindshiva2826 😂 I know the topic is serious but dam thats funny
@@kaylizzie7890 ok "karen"
This is a very old story, it happened in 1989, over 30 years ago. Now we know what happened and we know L-Tryptophan is not the culprit. L-Tryptophan has been back on the American market since 2005. Keep in mind that the Japanese manufacturer produced L-Tryptophan with genetically modified bacteria and the contamination resulted in the production of D-Tryptophan which is an optical isomer of L-Tryptophan.
Japanese company which produced L-Triptophan, ever got sued for it?
People who suffered ever received compensation?
@@dongkwon1242 I have not checked this side of the story.
Actually, it _was_ the culprit. More specifically, the contaminant called "peak E" and since 2001 identified as 1,1′-ethylidenebis[l-tryptophan] was the culprit. The terrible effects appear to be an allergic reaction to that contaminant, explaining why not everybody was suffering so badly.
@@flagmichael 😀😀😀
Genetic tinkering!
I live with pain exactly like this every day of my life. It takes everything I have not to scream for hours. The doctor tells me it's just Fyromylgia.
Fibromyalgia is simply another term for, "we don't know what the hell is wrong with you!'
When 'just fibromyalgia' is mercury poisoning from vaccines and fillings and other stuff try removing it. Iodine drops and chromium picolinate (bluebonnet is 30 % better for me)and much later I added vanadyl sulfate-20 and improved it more. Of a 3 drop Trace brand recommendation I took a dropper full in water. The next morning I was at 20 or 25% reduced pain. Only 12 hours of relief, so I dosed 2x daily, all at 7 drops and a cap of chromium. That got me to zero pain by about day 10. I was not able to work down to 4 drops 1x daily until about month 7 or 8. This should wreck my Thyoid but it got me off that thyroid med or my intermittent fasting killed that parasite. I could walk 10 yards, now I go hiking. I had near tears to get up mornings and now I rarely remember that. Another great detox is Floressence tea 2x daily 3 or 4 months. Make with water that didn't touch plastic or Floride and refrigerate. . See letters in the back of the book The Essiac Report...shocking what symptoms it reversed including my Lupus when GMOS and pesticides were dropped, plus a 6 week sever keto diet to kill the Lupus parasite. My friend did this all in the same 6 weeks and was cured according to blood test and symptoms at day 42. Sleep well by day 14. We had both been at the spontaneous falling stage. The mercury poisoning shocks were gone week 3 or 4 I think. But that was 20 years ago. The proper iodine use is paint the red one (Lugols) on your stomach in a 5 by 10 inch rectangle every morning until it is not slurped up by your body by evening. Then skip for 2 or 4 weeks. Floressence tea gently removes pesticides and heavy metals. Do it yearly for the same 3 months because you still have the same life. God Bless
Sounds like toxins in the muscle and possibly fat, this reminds me of the listetia episode. Pineapple and strawberries help with muscle tension. Cranberries help with detox and so does blueberries.
@@alexandrasymeon5893 One of the most accurate comments ever made.
Youre not alone....its agonizing
Monopolies discourage small businesses in America from making any drugs or supplements.
If we buy our drugs and supplements from other countries, we had better be on good terms with them.
I think it's important for National security to make at least the most essential drugs here.
I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FROM PERDU PHARM. I HATE BIG PHAR,
Ideoform Sun Happened all around the World.Big Pharma like mob?
the CCP_ has showered the democrats with truckloads of cash so they will keep drug manufacturing in china
@@grom7826 "Evience " or just s SWAG (Scientific wild Ass Guess)? Present the evidence!
Steven Believe me none forces USA to use China as labor work.Only the cheap manpower it enough reason for that and who cares If Congo sell politicaly corect good diamond or uranium depleted
It's a sad state of affairs when a companies right to profits is put before the lives of the people. As soon as they suspected that supplement they should have issued a warning to prevent anyone else from being harmed while they were working on testing it.
That's always been true and it still happens every day.
The drug companies own America!!
This is old... L-Tryptophan is back on the market in the US and has been for years (since 2005). One manufacturer in Japan was producing L-Tryptophan with genetically modified bacteria, but contamination resulted in production of D-Tryptophan, an optical isomer of L-Tryptophan.
FINALLY. Great post.
Thank you for that update!!
I remember when this happened. I was 19 or 20 at the time, and occasionally taking tryptophan for sleep. It worked well, and I was disappointed when it was withdrawn from the market due to a manufacturing error. (This was suspected even way back when.).
It’s interesting to view this tragedy in light of some more current “treatments”…how many victims is “too many”? I guess it depends on how much money is to be made/lost.
A measure wrapped in evil.
Profit/People
As a filmmaker myself, I am very impressed with your post illness documentary, very good work.
It's a TV show that's been put on YT. It wasn't made by the uploader, they just upload loads of great TV shows, like diagnosis unknown, fbi files, new detectives etc
Agreeing with Carl, I do also agree with you as well Paul, it really is a really good show!
All the footage is from previously released film its just recycled here so some one makes money from doing so
@@markmitchell450 I respect your point of view. I pay for UA-cam premium, so it’s no skin off my back. But, there are people, millions, if not billions, that cannot watch these programs in their country. The uploader is providing these programs for them. Half of the time, a copyright strike is given, and if the uploader agrees, the advertising money on the video, goes to the originating production company that created the program itself. If they do not copyright the video, the uploader is making maybe $10/USD per 10,000 viewers.
@@angelabordackonly thing im confused on is why you pay for premium.
It sad how you see people suffer from these horrible disease and they die it just show how short life can be and how we much appreciate as much as we can
Yes I agree with you 😔 live everyday like it’s your last
This happened in 1989, this post should have included when. At least post that in the description. Currently we are dealing with the coronaviruse. Post about that.
Sqeeky Kleen .....agree, all of a sudden there are all these outbreaks being posted and they are 20 or more years old 🙄
we have had more problems like the coronaviruses from China than you realize.
@@Vsure420 It is overhyped, as usual. Truly the virus isn't nearly as terrifying as the media makes it out to be.
Thank you, I thought it was now
Thanks. I saw the video itself is recent 😒
In the early 1990's this happened. It was from the Hollywood Diet of the Stars supplement. It weakened the hearts of participants.
Dozens die, and they still don't warn people of an outbreak. Smh.
That’s where the Fourth Estate steps in.
EccentricSage, Yes... *Recalls,* after they did *much* research and testing meds, but, by then, lives were lost. I'm talking about warning people of the dangers, ahead of time. 👍I understand the concern for causing a panic, but, a little panic may save lives. IJS. 😕
EccentricSage, I personally, have never been comfortable with seeking supplemental assistance for my health. As a child, mom began us on vitamins, but as an adult, I avoid all medications, unless absolutely necessary. Better safe than sorry. 👍😉
It sounds like we should only buy nutritional supplements that are produced in Europe
Yep - those pesky social democratic laws that Libertarians hate: they save lives.
This shows that you have to be very careful when taking OTC supplements.
True
That's not adequate. It must be approved by FDA like they do in Europe
@@tonyha3827 otc supplements are not regulated by the FDA like prescription drugs.
Careful when taking ANY med
You can't trust our food supply. Its gmo and plastic type coatings on fruits vegs. Cause of alot of suffering
I remember this happened when I was really little. I was 5 years old but I paid attention to the news even back then. But I didn’t understand everything, so I thought tryptophan was always poison. My parents were surprised when they mentioned the natural tryptophan in turkey and I said I’d thought that was a dangerous chemical. They were surprised I remembered the tainted tryptophan.
Contrary to the idea that cooked turkey is a good supply of an essential amino acid, are incorrect. See for example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan.
Nerys Ghemor dangerous chemical. Like TYLENOL?
Kathy Myers That one happened a year before I was born. Though it wasn’t the Tylenol itself...it was the cyanide someone put in it. (The perp STILL hasn’t been caught from that, BTW...)
Adam Mangler Interesting...must be an urban legend that tryptophan is the reason for the food coma after the Thanksgiving turkey! XD
Robert Gardea Nah, my parents just made sure I watched the news at an early age unless a story had graphic stuff that wasn’t age-appropriate. Most medical stuff I could handle though. I’m not sure exactly but I got my first kids’ epidemiology book probably 4 years afterwards.
Good quality series! So much better than others! Very educational as well! Not just gory or evil!
Half way thru and I'm thinking why aren't they checking the bottles of tryptophan, the batch numbers, the contents? See if the connection is the actual product and not just the amino acid.
I'm frustrated at this point.
YES FINALLY almost at end of show they look at which bottles the victims used and the manufacture process. A company in Japan using raw tryptophan from a bacterial process and genetically tinkering with it were finally to blame.
Yep a smear on all tryptophan from the pharmaceutical company's who kill thousands every year year after year. Side effects and combo effects. Rediculois propaganda.
This is such a frustrating show.
Not the first time this happened. Tryptophan was banned years ago.
And after being one of America's biggest fads for a decade between 1979 and 1989, it afflicted as many as 5,000 people with a rare blood disease and killed 38 of them. The pill was L-tryptophan, an economically priced amino acid once readily available in health food stores around the country. Now it is banned.Jan 4, 1996
Sun Sentinel › news › fl-xpm-1...
'MIRACLE PILL' OF '80S TURNED OUT TO BE DEADLY - Sun Sentinel
@@crisbrackett2067
Guess they forgot deaths in 1980's.
And after being one of America's biggest fads for a decade between 1979 and 1989, it afflicted as many as 5,000 people with a rare blood disease and killed 38 of them. The pill was L-tryptophan, an economically priced amino acid once readily available in health food stores around the country. Now it is banned.Jan 4, 1996
Sun Sentinel › news › fl-xpm-1...
'MIRACLE PILL' OF '80S TURNED OUT TO BE DEADLY - Sun Sentinel
Exactly, I wondered the same thing, that’s the first step I would have taken.
Monsanto left the chat...
Jacqueline Campbell Who sold what to J&J? Thanks 😊
solisium...Monsanto has been taken over by nazis. They are making biological warfare to use worldwide. Our waterways are poisoned already. The fish are being eaten by a mysterious toxin or bacteria...it is spreading from the Chesapeake bay and the surrounding waters and heading north. Don't eat fish or any seafood that is fresh caught. This is a deadly killer of fish and also attacks fishermen and affects them neurologically. It's very deadly. Sorry I don't have a link, but it's on you tube.
@Jacqueline Campbell The veil of secrecy is lifting, but not fast enough. It's mind blowing...we don't know whom to trust. We have entered a dark tunnel, with a long way to go, before we reach the light at the end. We are being manipulated, used, lied to, and intimidated with fear tactics. Our constitutional rights are being spat upon by greedy, corrupted monsters.
@Jacqueline Campbell Richie from Boston has reported seeing a large number of military tanks in the midwest. Sounds weird.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤞TELL ME THAT THE POOR PEOPLE WHO DIED FROM THIS DISEASE REST IN PEACE 😢
Not a disease. It's cause was contamination by man.
they rest in power
@@MJB6828 who made you God's spokesman?
Well that depends, if they where cremated, probably not, even if they where buried, well still probably not, considering the decomposition of their bodies, but they would be lying down. Not sure how long dead bodies have eyelids for, but for a start they would probably be closed. Sorry 😞 but that is the truth and reality of death. At least they are no longer in pain. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
My first thought was why didn't they check the brand and where it was made!! So much work on the wrong track. Finally they checked. Very interesting
Although this happened in 1989? I never knew about this bs! I'd have sued their balls off if I didn't die! 😦😧
i wonder if the company got sued.....i hope yes
How could you sued if dead?
@@davidlaing7684your family could possibly sue them after your death, aka wrongful death.
As a Doctor that would of been the 1st thing to do.Is take the medicine and see what was in it
*XX* "would of" *XX* It's "would have'" or "would've" (the latter being oft mistaken for the nonsensical "would of", by children and the under-educated).
I'm not a doctor and I was thinking the same thing.
I totally agree, it’s driving me nuts watching this. I keep saying “test the product, test the product’. It’s not until 75% into the video that they start to talk about doing that testing.
When you hear the statement “to increase the yield, the manufacturer tinkered with some of the genes” it really does get scary. 🐿🙂
@@anhedonianepiphany5588 you're really calling a physician "under-educated"?
And compare what brand/manufacture they had in common,
They could have just examined the L-tryptophan pills right away if those were tainted without going through door-to-door to find out if there are other victims.
They went door to door to have a control group for their study to gain accuracy of the situation!
Yeah, right. I did not get that.
Hi Bill. I was so excited to see your story here because I was still living in Albuquerque at the time & heard of your role in this discovery. I saved my own bottle of rarely used L-trytophan as a souvenir when I moved back to California, before finally tossing it out.
A souvenir of what?!
I'm reading this correctly?
WHY would you want this as a Souvenir? Americans 😮 A somewhat different breed indeed
@@LoveyK My L-tryptophan. I knew/worked with one of the doctors who discovered the connection.
@@jacqueline8559 I kept my that bottle because I worked with one of the doctors who discovered the connection. I was glad I only used the L-tryptophan once or twice.
@@alanatolstad4824 It’s a weird thing to do and an even weirder thing to confess on Social Media.
They never tell you what the contaminant is. It’s isolated and its molecular structure read, but we’re not given any information about it. GIVE THIS A PASS.
WOW.....they said to this day the contaminate has never been identified. I'll give L-Tryptophan a miss! I'd rather eat foods which carry the essential amino acid such as: Bananas
Cheese
Chocolate
Dried dates
Eggs
Milk
Fish
Oats
Pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds
Soy
Tofu
Tree nuts, including peanuts and peanut butter
The reason why they dont revel the contaminates is because of copy cat potential. Remember the Chicago tylenol cases
Lisa Schuster It was a GMO production to yield more money.
They don't know! Said so in the documentary!
Genetically-modified bacteria was the cause..but they couldn't isolate the precise contaminant..
Wouldn't you think that they would investigate Tryptophan immediately? Plain logic really. I'm not a medical person, but it was my first thought.
... You do realize that the outbreak being discussed here is the one that made this quote on quote "plain logic". This occurred in 1989.
This is dramatised and does not represent reality. They do it so you and other can get this feeling that you realise something before everybody else. On the downside, it creates an unreasonable suspicion towards experts. Don't take your knowledge from entertainment.
and it has to do with bureaucracy and scientific method. never believe the verbal evidence, always triple check by research, then make the move.
While the doco didn't specify they were checking this component, doesn't mean that it wasn't being checked. They can't put everything into a doco.
@@pixibelle3282 i believe they said their testing was inconclusive.
maybe something like the current drug removal where outside the body there is not thing dangerous but once in the body chemical reaction produces same drug they use to induce cancer in lab rats.
Should be taken off the counter. My mom had survived the effects of this poisoning but she was riddled with serious symptoms from taking this and was in touch with other survivors. She was about 68 at that time and many years ago. She passed at 89. I found a lot of paperwork that she kept about this .. but at the time not many medical personnel heard of it .
Wow, that is scary!! Thank goodness she was around many years afterwards.
I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Bless you and your Mom
💘
Didn’t you watch this to the end? The supplement has been banned in the US since this occurred. As for other countries you will have to check.
@@sargentsakto9236 I know that's what they said, but do a search on line and you will see they sell it everywhere in the U.S. so they must have lifted the ban.
@@cconsulting139 RIP 😒
And still to this day we're suffering from the dangers coming out of this part of the world.. who will be held accountable on a global scale
LIKE I SAID BRING BACK OUR PHARMACEUTICAL AND FACTORY BACK TO AMERICA AND MADE IN AMERICA ONLY.
YES INDEED.
When they said supplements I immediately knew it was the eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome outbreak that is associated with the consumption of L-tryptophan supplements.
So why did they ban L-tryptophan ? The problem was in the binder.
Note: There is no greater genius than what it takes to be an organic chemist. You have to be versed in chemistry, physics, and mathematics. They are the unsung heroes in our society.
No one knows what the binder and fillers are that they put in prescription medications or in supplements.
I’ve never heard Organic Chemistry praised, but it was my favorite subject in getting my degree. It’s something you can apply sensibly to every day life. I’m no genius nor hero, but I sure appreciate the kudos for them, Mr. Ted Phillips 👍
I wonder was there a class action law suit against the Japanese company ?
Because there's no proof. there have been cases of EMS associated with L-tryptophan supplements - from the Japanese firm and from other unrelated firms - that weren't contaminated with the contaminant that was thought to be linked with EMS. there were also cases from unknown sources and one case of someone eating too many cashew nuts that contain tryptophan naturally. No one really knows what caused it, the first theory was the contaminated batches from a Japanese company that changed its filtration method by reducing the activating charcoal used for filtration by half, but it doesn't explain other occurrences that happened before and after the big outbreak. That and the fact that L-Tryptophan exploded in popularity right before the big outbreak points to L-tryptophan itself- either alone or in combination with some other contributing factor - being the culprit of EMS in susceptible individuals.
I bet the “cooperative” Japanese company probably paid off the investigators to find nothing. If you isolate a chemical compound, you can tell exactly what it is by doing mass spectrometry and gas chromatography. Why didn’t they tell us what the chemical was???!!! That would be a simple test. Also, they didn’t test the tryptophan sample for biological activity for Bacterial or viral DNA. They could have amplified the DNA in the sample. They should’ve done those two easy tests, but conveniently decided not to. This sounds almost like a bad vaccine reaction, where the body overreacts. They should have done chelation and a blood transfusion right away.
@@hannahzion9158 well that sounds like about right Hannah. Because of this company they pulled out all the l.tryptophan off the shelves in America.was waiting for the name of the company they didn't even show it on the bottle. and I wonder if this particular batch was only made to be sold in America? hence we would be the only one picking up this ems.. I can't believe no other please in Japan ever had the same reaction like we got in America with EMS so it sounds like a cover-up
George Plagianos I remember l-tryptophan being banned despite insufficient research when I operated a naturopathic clinic and health food store in Canada until 1996. Decades later I learn that the identified batch was harmful and even deadly due to genetically modified properties.
@@hannahzion9158 Interesting you should say it sounds like a bad vaccine reaction, because my husband had that and ended up with transverse myelitis, which paralyzed him and nearly killed him. They gave him high doses of steroids to halt the progress of it. They tested him for everything before they settled on the TM diagnosis.
I’m only half way through but I’m wondering why they didn’t collect the pill bottles of the stricken women and test the pills. They may have even found that those who were sick were taking the same brand or even the same lot #. I’ll have to watch the rest.
I think the title is misleading, the supplement was the key. Great video quality throughout the channel.
NOT a 'disease' when it's caused by a substance overdose. An 'intolerance', sometimes fatal, at best, similar to an allergy reaction, which can also kill.
This also speaks volumes on the hidden dangers of genetic modification. I wonder what more nightmares are out there waiting to strike
The Night Owl Corner so true!
This is not genetic modification. Humans have done this for millennia via selective breeding. It is about “natural” supplements taken at 1,000s of times their natural level - and thereby no longer natural. This can occur with Vitamins D, E, A and K. If you take too much of these fat- soluble supplements, they accumulate and cause damage. Over-the-counter supplements are not safe if you take them at massive doses. Even water, taken to the extreme, can be deadly.
We're About to Find out 3/26/2020
@Suspicious Ned Flanders Genetic modification is not the same as selective breeding.
This video was not about genetic modification but rather a change in a process for producing a product. But you are right to be worried. Just be careful what you put in your mouth.
Eosinophilia IS THE DISEASE, folks. 🤦🏽♀️
No, eosinophilia is _one_ symptom of Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syndrome!
L-Tryptophan is naturally found in warming milk...🙄
Beckk I think that’s more the symptom
@@highstandards6226 d-tryptophan isn’t tho
This is why I don’t take over the counter “meds” ,they are not regulated.
Meds are supplements are not.
Exactly...the FDA regulates prescriptions and most of the drugs that people buy over the counter in the US, but "natural supplements" don't fall under regulations...and they can be very dangerous.
Plenty of people get sick and die from prescription medications too, as well as food;
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Dont buy from china
Most all of your vitamin supplements would fall under natural supplements. For those of us who have severe vitamin deficiencies have no choice but to take said vitamins.
Two days of taking Effexor gave me "broken heart syndrome.". My heart felt like a small circular pillow, enlarged, numb. The beat felt sluggish, soft, not a precise beat. The doctors have not 100% believed me but it scared the daylights out of me. It was years before I knew what it was called. But I have clear memories of how it felt and the fear I felt.
effexor does not cause broken heart syndrome, it causes depression. if you cant handle antidep. I am on it, have been, many others too.
What is broken heart syndrome
@@Buttersausage I've added my symptoms above. It felt like my heart filled the left chest area. At the same time i imagined it was like a round pillow, soft, sluggish, This was late 1990s. I had internet access but searching for symptoms was useless. When I ran across symptoms and a name I could find information.
It blows me away that they still have no idea how to deal with this or how the contaminates cause so much destruction. If anything it spotlights the dangers of genetically modified organisms being used and going into our food and medicines
@EccentricSage I hear you
@CJ If you think breeding plants and animals for specific traits is the same thing as removing DNA from one creature and putting in another. You should think again.
And if you believe the use genetic modification of plants to survive tons of Roundup is a safe practice there is no hope for you.
I am not a fan of untested supplements. But, I am no fan of the lies that make up so many "scientific" research papers either. If you did not know, 40% of all scientific papers done over the last 20 years are non-reproducible. And the French researchers proved that is exactly what the papers showing the safety of Roundup are. 90 days is no substitute for lifetime monitoring of rats exposed to carcinogens.
@Suspicious Ned Flanders genetic engineering is direct manipulation of genetic code... it bypasses all of the safeguards and limits that are found in nature and that cannot be bypassed with breeding.
So, genetic engineering (tampering) with the bacteria in the manufacturing process which was not for the purpose of making a better product but as stated for the benefit of profit. Can we not see a correlation with the genetic engineering and genetic modification of our food products? And we as consumers are not allowed to choose conventionall vs. gmo at the market in the form of labeling.
its a sick !!! world full of fucked up humans
@@cconsulting139 Thank you for relating the details of your battles and what you learned. I feel
@@cconsulting139 I feel such anger, sorrow and frustration for the years of suffering you experienced.
You can choose not to buy GMO. Just read the labels on the products you buy. Those that say Non-GMO are advertising as such to make more money than those that do use GMO products. There are plenty of laws restricting labeling. If you don't trust what you read, do not buy the product.
@@vernicethompson4825 There are no labels on fresh produce and non-gmo labeling is voluntary so not all food products are labeled.
I remember when this happened. We learned about it in California. Then they took L-tryptophan off shelves. Things were different in the 80s.
the cdc was a larger org back then.private companys took over with reagan .way worse now.
Quiet! Natural herbs are the safest way to be well! Some supplement can have lead and other substances in them from companies that use cheap fillers.
Medications from doctors are the most toxic substances on earth!
Actually it isn't off the market. I bought some recently
41:21 they mentioned the date in 1989 when a Japanese company tainted the product.
Japan should fall off the globe!!!!! 👿👿👿👿
It would be great if the FDA took control over supplements. If they do not, it would be super great if USA drug prescription plans would allow doctors to write scripts to allow the needed supplements, verified by blood work, to be covered and provided by licensed pharmacists.
FDA 'regulated' drugs cause many more deaths. Go figure, eh?
Honest food supplements are nature's medicine chest. The Bible teaches that the cure for anything is "in the field:, i.e. herbal.
Really They have allowed Big Pharma to kill millions ! They do not test the drugs that big Pharma sells! They make their billions, and pay out for a few dead and dying ! Big business and big Pharma have made people sick from processed foods and drugs that cure nothing! Great great FDA money talks!
Yep. Everyone should be prescribed the supplements they need.
I do not trust the FDA. But I agree it would be good if supplements were held to a consistent standard, tested randomly, & the results available easily to the general public. Many of us cannot afford Rx man-made medicines, or cannot tolerate various ingredients in them, so we buy supplements that [we hope] are closer to natural. Yes it would be wonderful if Dr 's could/would prescribe supplements! But so few doctors even know about them --- & to be fair, there is a TON of supplements out there to learn about; I doubt anyone really knows all about each one. German doctors can prescribe both ( man-made pharmaceuticals or natural products), but I don't know how their health care system is set up.
Do your research! As a consumer we have to empower ourselves to take a proactive approach to what we put in our bodies.
'Supplements' are a booming, money sponging scheme. They are not regulated. Most of those sold are completely useless; they tout extraordinary doses that our bodies simply excrete bc we can't absorb them, many vitamins require the presence of other vitamins/minerals in order to absorb or work efficiently within our bodies, quality matters... it's almost criminal what they get away with.
Do your research and learn about what you're putting in your body. Many are perfectly fine and even beneficial but are often more expensive (for good reason).
Increíble ordeal that these people have to endure, totally horrible. Thank God some of them survived to tell their stories. But at the same time it is very tragic the ones who died due to L-Tryptophan consumption, very sad indeed. I hope the survivors eventually regain their health back. Very interesting video and extremely informative and educational as well. Thank you for sharing it, it is an eye opener for those who likes to try anything over-the-counter without doing research firsthand. Supplements like any medicines can kill you and one should be very careful as to what goes inside our bodies! I know I am.
The Japanese company had altered the composition because they wanted to save money.
Thank god? God made it so! And what god, the one with elephant head?
@@nom3nnescio Don’t be a freaking idiot and a troll!
When I refer to GOD, I am referring to GOD THE CREATOR, THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU AND EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, GIVING YOU A SOUL; YES, yes, a freaking S O U L. Without a SOUL you are simply DEAD, you don’t exist! It is that clear to you????
GOD THE CREATOR also CREATED THE COSMOS, THE UNIVERSE, THE PLANETS, and everything else in SPACE! He created the HEAVENS. I don’t believe at all in the Big Bang Theory! It is the most ridiculous and ignorant thing to say. Behind the Universe and all it has, there is a BRILLIANT, INFINITE, A MOST INDEFINITE MIND THAT EXISTS that we, humans, CANNOT HAVE IT EVER! 🙄
Having said that, YOU believe what you want, I don’t care NOR your beliefs HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO ME! Do I make myself clear now??? 🙄🙄
Jesus of Nazareth and All His Disciples….IGNORANCE is a SIN rather than a bliss. My my, I am appalled at YOUR ILLITERACY!
No need to answer me back, I don’t engage in stupid conversations-like yours-. I like to talk to INTELLIGENT PEOPLE and not to TROLLS like you.
This happened in fall 1989, only in the USA! Since then, tainted tryptophan hasn't made any cases. Luckily. 🙏
And in Europe, where supplements are very controlled, no cases at all. 👌
Fascinating series and really educational, an amino acid yet. This is a second episode to view. The amino was tinkered with, shouldn't have been.
@EccentricSage and since they did not and seem will never identify the "culprit" chemical, well, wonder if they just store it "for a rainy day" ?! 🤔
Like the bird flu where they killed millions of chickens and ducks due to illness.
A few years later, there are treats for dogs made from chicken and duck.
I have no proof, but the animals weren't incinerated. They were freeze dried, stored until the panic passed, then sold them as dog treats.
With the food shortage(protein) in China these pieces of dried meat look perfectly edible. .
I never bought them, but plenty of people do.
There have been cases of people getting this syndrome who have never taken the supplement, particularly people who are a lot of cashews which has a high amount of the amino acid in it.
@@l.antoinetteanderson3736 It was identified in 2001 as 1,1′-ethylidenebis[l-tryptophan] and the effects were from an allergic reaction... thus the relative scarcity of the illnesses.
Always check labels to see where the product is made.
OH I DO.
Labels dont matter- they are EASY to fake, what do you think?? they are just printed off on a machine with whatever they put in the template, and if they FORGED a CARB certification on laminated flooring and shipped it to Lumber Liquidators in the USA which sickened scores of people, well, a little paper label on a bottle is a piece of cake to forge or fake too! It's as easy to change as an email or text document!
Managers at the flooring plant in China ADMITTED they faked the CARB certificate
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@@HobbyOrganist you are right just need to be bought in bulk and bottled in the usa
That helps, but not reliable! Parts of our dry cold cereals are made in China! Yet, it doesn't say so on the packages!! Could be the same with many other products!
That wont work in canada...might say made in canada but not ness true.
And what is done to big companies so that they can make bigger profits cut corners? NOTHING!
Yep, it scary to think that not all over the counter "medication" is safe. Luckily I have never been a fan of supplements that are easily available to anyone, and is displayed in huge quantities at all drug stores.
Read an article about supplements in the New Yorker years ago that really shocked me! No regulation!!! And I'm assuming this is still true. How can our government be so stupid!!! Don't take over the counter supplements. Period.
I remember this when I was working at the old St Joseph Hospital in Albuquerque in the late 1980’s. L-Tryptophan was d/c’d because it was causing abnormal labs. H.Somme’ R.N.
Rats aren't humans so different results for the animals.
You'd be wrong sweetie.
As a scientist the first thing to do is analyze the l-trytophan for contamination, either bacterial, viral or chemical.
This was a long time ago. Way back when the CDC still had respectability.
Um. Almost every time I go to the doctor's, I am asked to list all the medications, vitamins, supplements I am taking. Why did it take six months to notice that these victims were taking the same supplement?
It was thought to be harmless!
Because this was in 1989. They medical community learned from what happened here.
makes me consider cleaning out my medicine cabinet of ALL over the counter supplements.
Monsanto and GMO’s. My humble opinion.
I had a laptop like the one at 16:13 in middle school circa 1998 (and it was old then)! I love all the old technology in here, especially having worked in hospital informatics before.
It's not a disease it's a poisoning for heaven's sake.
This will be the age of lab created biological weapons tested on target populations. There is no other reason for so many mysterious diseases in a culture that considers itself developed. And I cannot forget how many microbiologists have been dropping dead over the past three or four years under mysterious causes, accidents, suicide, etc......I am not the only one asking such questions; there have been multiple articles written about this. Yet doctors never know what they are dealing with? Can it be that they are dealing with modified bacteria weaponized in Labs by genetically modified organisms for which Humanity has no immunity?
I found this interesting, the body attacking itself reminded me of lupus. Many symptoms are the same. I wonder why they feel the need to put music on. This is supposed to be informative, not simply entertainment. Anyhow, the music was very distracting for me.
Watch DrHouse!? It's never Lupus !
@@williammcdonald2320 I've watched it. My daughter has lupus so I'm very familiar with it.
You would think, testing these drugs and supplements from everywhere, would be first. Before sending to the public.
As a respiratory therapist of 34 years, and who attended many emergency situations, I find the medical proceedures shown in these to be so fake. For example, in the beginning of this film a defibrillator was used on the patient's stomach. Um, no.
When a ventilator is in a room where a patient is not in need of ventilatory support is fake. Vents are not kept in patient rooms. 😂
I could go on.
I am surprised that the drug was not immediately assessed for toxin. Most over the counter drugs don't always have exactly what is in them. For example the amount might be different too little or too much.
Normal toxicology tests test for specific toxins. You have to know what you are looking for, and test for that. In this case, they did not know what they were looking for.
The FIRST thing I would have done is check the brands!
lulu ... I suppose that it's easy to say that AFTER the event!
Holy shit i was listening to this as i was falling asleep, could recognized Jerry's voice anywhere and had to Snap up and check. Sure enough! Jerry Gleich is amazing
Woman: *knocks on door*
Other woman: *walks over to door*
Me: *Notices the camera man is inside the house, making the knocking scene pointless*
Yeah I can never let those scene setups slide past without eeeever so slightly rolling my eyes.. :-)
People see cameramen inside lot of places before the door open these days.
This is a documentary using some actors to recreate certain incidents. Of course a cameraman is going to be in the house.where ever they could they used the actual person to act as themselves.
Wasn't "Tainted Blood" a song by Soft Cell? LOL
I have been shouting TEST THE MEDICATION from about 5 mins in. could have saved a lot of pain and suffering............. SERIOUSLY !
My heart goes out to the victims.
It seems if this was produced in Japan, it was probably in countries other than the USA. Did any other countries experience similar symptoms?
Edit: I looked it up and basically what they have discovered is some people are “sensitive” to something. There’s a case study of EMS from 2009. So it’s still out there, it’s just not an epidemic because only “sensitive” people are susceptible.
I think you tapped into some disinformation. It was a contaminant in the production run.
It was made in the US using raw materials imported from Japan.
Quite possibly the US manufacturers were less diligent about cleaning and filtering their raw materials because of the lax food safety standards regulating the food and supplement market in the USA as compared to other countries (including Japan).
@@jwenting thanks for the clarification!
@@jwenting And there's also the fact that the supplement market is unregulated. They were intentionally excluded from being regulated by the FDA through bipartisan efforts.
And ppl wonder why I brace for impact when I hear a bill is "bipartisan."
What about fillers and other ingredients even in the capsules? Seem to me the first question should have been were they all using the same brand or a brand from the same manufacturer. Haven’t heard this addressed thus far.
Moral of the story is supplements need to be regulated!
HELL NO!! The moral of the story, is to be a knowledgeable consumer but NOT for the government to take away and regulate an ENORMOUS industry that helps millions. Should we ban spinach because people have gotten echoli? What about beef? Plenty of people have died from problems there, food poisoning etc... Mayonnaise?? Think about what you're saying. Giant reactionary legislation to incidents that happen limit freedom and do very little to improve our lives. Yes, it should be incorporated into food standards as the FDA inspects all food products. But "regulating" the entire supplement market out of hand is not the solution.
HELL NO!! The moral of the story, is to be a knowledgeable consumer but NOT for the government to take away and regulate an ENORMOUS industry that helps millions. Should we ban spinach because people have gotten echoli? What about beef? Plenty of people have died from problems there, food poisoning etc... Mayonnaise?? Think about what you're saying. Giant reactionary legislation to incidents that happen limit freedom and do very little to improve our lives. Yes, it should be incorporated into food standards as the FDA inspects all food products. But "regulating" the entire supplement market out of hand is not the solution.
Yeah, let us turn over everything to the AMA so that we have NO say so!
We should Strictly buy US A items like we did years ago. Even if it cost a little bit more money. These other countries don’t care about themselves or any other country. Follow the money.
It doesn't exist
You got to be kidding, you know many U.S. companies are no better for example take Monsanto, Johnson and Johnson cancer lawsuit, Bhopal disaster in India killing thousands by guess what Union Carbide a U.S. company.
There is so many examples it's too long to list, this effected few in comparison to what you cite as reason to stop importing, if you still believe what you posted you are a fool.
WHATEVER CONTRACT NIXON MADE WITH CHINA NEED TO BE BROKEN ASAP.
THEN CHINA MADE CRAP STAY FLOODING IN THE STORES & SEE NO MORE MADE IN THE U.S.A..
GET THE COMPANY BACK, GET THE FOLKS BACK TO WORK.
LET'S HAVE THAT PRIDE WE WE ONCE HAD BEFORE.
MADE IN THE GOOD OLD U.S. OF A.
If you adjust the playback speed to 1.5 this is much more bearable. These TV shows had to fill a time slot and they would draw out these stories as long as possible. They had to sell powdered soup, soaps, canned foods, shampoos, and SUPPLEMENTS.
Since when is a patient's case discussed with the family when others are present?
Everyone here is missing the point. Supplements are NOT REGULATED AT ALL in America or Canada. Many tested and one third didn't even have the ingredient advertised in it - at all. Doesn't matter where they're made if no one checks anyways. Here in Australia our health supplements industry is regulated and we have excellent quality products that tend to work (funny that) and folks don't get sick due to contaminants and unknown "ingredients"
I wish we could get something like that in the USA but our FDA is so corrupt we don't trust them to look at anything that might cut the profit of the big pharmaceutical companies. For example: Desiccated pig thyroid has been used by hypothyroid patients since the 1800s. When the FDA was formed the desiccated pig thyroid was "grandfathered" and given a designation of "generally accepted as safe and effective", GASE, by the FDA. In the past 10+ years the FDA has done everything possible to shut down the manufacturers and caused shortages. Now they're pushing to force the companies to go through all of steps required for a new drug. That would cause manufacturers to either close down or exponentially raise the price of their product.
One huge factor is the COST of supplements will soar if there has to be testing/regulation.
@@northernpianotuner3319 we have very strict regulations and testing in Australia and we can all afford it.
I live & am from. New Mexico. This is the first I have heard about this. I have and never will, take things like that. I just don’t do things like that. I think people need to be a lot more careful & Smarter with what they put into their Bodies. Gotta always be safe. Then be sorry.
Would a blood transfusion have helped?
I tried two of them to try to fall asleep after a hangover. I felt so horrible I should have gone to the ER, and didn't because of bad judgement from the alcohol. I was just lucky.
Yes brand and batch numbers is a good starting point.
November, 1989. That's over 30 years ago. That part is good.
Thank you! I am better aware of this product and so glad it was removed from ALL shelves in the USA
This should have been called Tainted Natural Supplement.
I would never take any medications not prescribed by my doctor.
Great documentary but why don't you name the people that were victims? That's sad.