I am amazed that the doctors did not check for poisoning on the very first visit. When my farmer husband was admitted to Creighton Hospital for “flu” symptoms the 1st thing they checked was heavy metal poisoning. It WAS from using many farm chemicals. He was treated & released. God bless the Doctors❤!
I understand the disbelief, but poisoning, especially with substances like thallium, is very rare for cases like these, and carrying each specific, expensive test is something that not all hospitals can manage
Glad your husband is ok and they tested for it quickly. It’s possible hospitals near farming areas see instances of poisoning from farm chemicals with some frequency,and are aware of the possibility in their patient population.
I don’t agree with the statement that if you do evil things then you will suffer…. My father hated and abused me my entire life but he never suffered but I sure did!
@@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRagsI am deeply sorry for your many sufferings. I understand, and have learned about past life regressions. Everything begins to make sense when you see our present life as a continuation of our past lives. Do good, and build lots of good karma into your current life to be happy. I pray that you will find your way out of your pain.
@@bassingbasics6621 I HIGHLY doubt that. Wd lv to believe it is so, but my guess is the medical profession is still suffering acute symptoms of Arsenic Stupidity by Proxy.
THANK YOU. My thought exactly. ESPECIALLY if it is the husband who has the symptoms on the overwhelming majority of poisoners (murderers) are women. Just as 90% of retail theft is women. A couple of rare times when women dominate the criminal categories.
I have experienced the uncaring attitude of hospitals on several occasions. The state of the medical profession is in my opinion needs much improvement
Yes... I totally agree... I have been suffering for 9 years now... I almost DIED... While under Doctors care... Now that it has happened... I can see it was all very obvious... With the extreme weight loss (135lbs)... Plus... All of the results from the lab work... Which was totally ignored... The VA WAS THE CAUSE... To this day... I still am suffering 24 hours a day... Now... With a heart condition... As well as other conditions with all the side effects that come from them being chronic and severe... From the Total Lack of proper care... I truly believe they are wanting me to die... Instead of helping me... As they continue to deflect the issues... Gaslighting me... At every appointment... As if I am ignorant or something...
@robertyoung2819 horrible can you believe a doctor injected 💉 me with the wrong medication I had a strike. He lied saying I was rude demanding pain meds. I'm allergic to narcotics.
Unfortunately, I have to agree. I know there are many caring Doctors and Nurses around, but there is also a huge problem with apathy and distrust of people who are sick and coming into hospital for help, particularly if the person is in pain. I know that there is a subset of people who go to hospitals attempting to procure pain meds, etc. but now it seems that medical professionals suspect everyone of that! There are ways that they can check to see if a patient has been in and out of ER’s continually, as well as medications a patient has been prescribed, so there really is no excuse for treating so many innocent people as if they are there just for that. It causes many people to be undiagnosed for the actual issue. Every patient, whether they are a patient who is prescribed pain meds, or not should be treated at the outset as if they are in fact there for a legitimate issue, and not like an addiction attempting to get more pain medications. If they are, it certainly will become obvious even if given the benefit of the doubt at the outset. That way those who are not trying to run the system get the care they need also. It is malpractice if they are not, just like it is if these medical professionals are not considering everything that could be causing symptoms that are easily explained by poisoning. Unfortunately, mistakes in cases like these truly have devastating results!
I just read your comment, you mentioned the VA... Is it possible that you were exposed to any toxins/ contamination while in the military? I mention this because I was a dependent at Camp Lejeune ( Marine/Navy base) which is a part of a huge lawsuit for water contamination. My health has completely deteriorated and for years, doctors have ignored me, downplayed it, treated me like a guinea pig, or as if I was crazy. Many contaminants are being found at various military bases - forever chemicals, even Agent Orange.
This ended without us being told if Joanne was convicted and how much time she is serving--I bet you she was responsible for her first husband’s death too-heartless psychopath!
They're needs to be a rule that. If doctors suspect someones been poisoned. No food or drink from family members and all visits should have a staff member present. Its baffling the wouldn't consider that maybe they're was a chance it was intentional.
Yeap as soon as they suspected poisoning the police should have been called and NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND HIM UNSUPERVISED. I KNEW IT WAS THAT WIFE.
@DrKb2935 exactly! I guessed straight away it was the wife - thank you, Agatha Christie - all that iced tea & a law suit....alarm bells should be ringing.
It was obvious to me within the first 5 minutes that he died and his wife was responsible even though I had no prior knowledge of this case. Just observe the actors who were playing the people involved and the actual people who knew him in real life in the interviews. There were no interviews with him or his wife, just his family and coworkers and health care workers who worked on his case. Conclusion: he didn't survive and his wife did not want to be involved in the story. That was enough to raise suspicions of his wife, but when they kept talking about how she would give him thermoses full of iced tea every day for work that clinched it. That's an oddly specific detail to emphasize.
Agreed I know my own body I would also know wtf was wrong with me especially drinking TEA all the time how can all these people be so stupid after medical school for like 8 to 10 yrs
It was obvious when they said her first husband died and she was after a settlement, then when they mentioned the iced tea she was making for him each day, and when she happened not to be shown in the interviews.
A serial killer doesnt cause this much torture to a person. This is the most evil act i have ever seen. This posioning went on for months. The pain this man went through is unimaginable.......
@@sheilaemadian 30 years is typical, but some jurisdictions only run 20 for murder. 30 is more for the violent shocking multiple stab wounds or severe beatings, so the 20 years does make some sense. In Texas murder is about 14 years, they're pretty violent down there.
It just makes me angry that these hospitals do not check for poisoning. What is wrong with them? Why do they not check for that right away??? This is the 3rd poisoning story I have watched. You would think doctors would be smarter than this. These people in these stories that have been poisoned suffered so much and for so long and in my opinion so needlessly. Doctors need to be trained in the symptoms of poisoning. This is ridiculous.
Same. Pain and tingling in the extremities that seems to have no other cause, and then especially the hair falling out. Test for and rule out heavy metals! I thought this would be arsenic or cyanide. Second guess was antifreeze, but the symptoms didn't quite fit for that.
UTube doctor after knowing the facts AND watching 3 poisoning stories 😂. Good grief, no wonder we are doomed. No need for educated professionals anymore. 5-60 minutes of a video and you have the expertise of years long schooling and training. WAKE UP! You are watching entertainment BASED on true stories. Why don’t you try poisoning your loved one and see how long it takes to catch you.
These poisoning cases are unthinkable. Just to watch someone (not just anyone!) dying in agony, slowly -- and before your eyes -- and adding up to the process day by day... I mean... how?..
I think I remember this one. The wife was putting thallium into his tea jug for work and she was around the family and acting like she really cared about his health. It is a very rare component in labs that can mimic the same symptoms as Guillain-Barre. It is so cruel to do this to someone who doesn’t know they are in danger. 😢
As I was watching this, as soon as I heard him say that his legs and hands were on fire, I knew right away that was a poisoning... that seems to be a consistent symptom with poisonings of heavy metal poisoning
@@lizettewanzer8650 With arsenic you get a lot of gastric symptoms initially and the nerve issues come in once levels get a bit higher. Thallium doesn't cause gastric symptoms(because it's WAY rarer in nature. Arsenic is somwhat common in ground water in many places so our bodies evolved to react to it, purge it, and grow resistant to repeated exposure. Thallium doesn't trigger a gastric response so the first symptoms are nerve damage and organ failure, that's also why it's quite a bit deadlier and harder to recover from even when exposure stops)
I had a strange illness in 1989. It was also very painful and mysterious because the doctors cannot know whats the cause. They took blood from my spinal cord to see whats wrong but can't know the cause of my illness. At least 2 times a day it happened that I feel extremely shivering cold but for only about 5 minutes, then become extremely hot. I was in the hospital for 2 months, and fortunately my body just became better on its own. And so I can feel and see this man's illness is even 100 times as painful as what I experienced.
And I have a pain in my head from yet another double-set of hospital and neurologists not connecting the dots for arsenic poisoning. I will call it, "Arsenic poisoning by proxy" & they are suffering from "Arsenic stupidity by proxy".
The problem is that pain in hands and feet are symptoms of nerve pain and nerve pain presents in tons of illnesses, first and foremost being diabetes so that's why it isn't always top of the list when doctors see the symptoms but if I'd already ruled out the major stuff I would've checked heavy metals!
If I was ever that sick for even an hour I'd be screaming for help... an entire day... id be demanding tests .. 2 days .. id be wanting to be euthenized.... it took everyone wayyyy to long to get serious.
Agree its ridiculous as I said I know my body also. Honey if I just got diarrhea or vomiting I would definitely know something wrong with me. I'm 75 never been sick at all, not even diaherra
Same here. Then she had stayed away for a while which is when he was feeling better. Then she reappears for party and he gets sick again while she " makes sure he stays nourished"
You really milked this story. It took much too long to get to the point but i suspected both the poisoning and the perpitrator very early on, then suddenly, it was over. No epilogue, and what about her first husband?
What a wicked thing she done to her husband she should divorce him rather than taking from his beloved family well she won,t enjoy her life I feel sorry for the young child how sad.
Prussian blue is the antidote for thalium poisoning. It's a dodgy gamble, since there is no known amount that will do the trick; doctors just have to administer and hope for the best. I have never seen a case like this in person, nor have I ever handled any heavy metal (other than liquid mercury -- the 60's were a dodgy time for us kids).
perhaps they should always have this prussian blue in all er ... it would be a quick heavy metal test ... just paint it on lips and see if it turns blue. They always have methylene blue in ERs.
@@clareshaughnessy2745 Yep. My friend was warned, as were we all, that the one thing that would wreck our class rings was mercury. Well, here we were in chemistry class, 1972, and we hear this vicious hissing and a loud crack. My friend Ray, a very smart guy, had forgot this info and the sounds we heard were the mercury fusing with the gold in his ring and then the stone being forcefully flung towards a wall. It was kind of awesome!
@@clareshaughnessy2745 It was a lot of fun! Dangerous as hell, no trigger warnings, we were on our own, but hey, at least we weren't dirty hippies. I think that's what our parents thought anyway.
I know! I have watched too many of these, that end in poisoning evidence. Spotted red flags quickly! That was horribly brazen of her, right in presence of family! May he be at peace in Heaven, and she be in prison! 🙏🧡 God bless his family. 🙏🧡🙏🧡🙏
Back then they didn't have the internet, and unless they watched shows like Forensic files (didn't start until 1996), people would likely not have heard about others being poisoned. They're going to look for the most obvious causes (Occam's Razor) first then continue from there. They do that now, too, because they need to get the correct treatment for the patient going ASAP to help them get better. Plus, as someone else said, smaller hospitals don't have the resources to check for poisonings. They'd have to send blood samples, etc. away to outside labs. They can take forever, it seems, to get test the samples and get results back to the requesting hospital.
JoAnn was convicted and sentenced to 20 years. She, unfortunately for anyone else who meets her, was released in 2016 after serving the 20 years. I hope she doesn't re-offend and put another person through this agony and torture ever again.
That’s what’s wrong with our justice system a good man’s life was only worth 20 years in jail for the killer. Who or what is going to stop her from doing it again? Life in prison should mean life in prison.
If they suspected some kind of poisoning why in the world would they not try to control and monitor what food and drink is brought in there to him? That wife would have been the first one I would have suspected. No one should have been allowed to stay with him unsupervised! That’s crazy!
8 years ago, a friend of mine died from thallium poisoning. At first the cops thought it was her husband who did it. They finally figured out it was from where she was working and it was suicide. She worked at a local newspaper where they used to use it. She took the old container and drank it a little at a time.
Ive watched loads of these episodes but for some reason i kept thinking he was going to make a recovery. I think as soon as they mentioned Thalium i knew right away the wife put it in the ice tea. The wife killed him .EVIL WITCH.
I think people are being way too harsh on the medical staff- they did the best they could with what resources and knowledge they had. Poisonings are not very common, and in a case like this they want to treat what it most likely is asap. GBS is already rare, so if they think he has that it goes to show how uncommon an intentional poisoning is that they would first consider a rare disease. A smaller hospital might not even have a lab which can test for poisons. You need special equipment and tests for certain substances. Not to mention the internet wasn’t widely available then, they couldn’t just google the symptoms. This was 1991! They would have had to find a book on poisonings, or already be specially trained to recognize symptoms of different types of poisonings. Things definitely could have been done differently, but they were trying their best with what they knew.
@@ritawallace-reed7500broadly speaking medical professionals are trained to first rule out common causes of conditions before they start digging around like Dr House for super rare illnesses. The commenter you responded to is right that yes, poisoning is rare and deliberate poisoning is even more so. It is not a totally unreasonable situation that a doctor’s first inclination will be towards simple, common illnesses or conditions, because these are the most likely by pure statistical reasoning. Plus a lot of medical diagnosis is about a process of elimination. You start with the simple and general, then as you test and analyze the patient, you can begin to then steer your diagnostic path towards specific, perhaps rarer or more unusual, diagnoses based on your results.
Some doctors also don't want to do some more test even you are telling them your feelings. Like me i have chest pain but it's not poisoning. I'm frustrated of this feeling of mine. My ecg my xray are normal but i have chest pain
@@overthinkerchannelI once went to the ER thinking I might be having a hear attack. Turned out that my chest pains were esophageal spasms caused by acid reflux. Something to consider. Good luck.
40:40 "Difficult decision"...ha! I bet it wasn't the least bit difficult for JoAnn to release him from life support. She's a sadistic monster! I can't believe she could sit there and watch him suffer in agony like that. And what's even worse is he seemed to somehow get better when he had the pizza party. He's feeling good; getting better; and she intentionally gives him Thallium again and made him (and his family!) suffer all over again! She could have chosen to walk away at that (or any) point, and she may have never been found out. She truly is a heartless soul!
She is a "true" psychopath". They have NO empathy for others, in fact, they enjoy that they are outsmarting their victims even the pain & suffering. They are, very unfortunately, among us. The victims family is so nice they cannot even conceive of such evil. May God grant them comfort.
I can't believe she was getting the millions and it still wasn't enough for her. She wanted what she could get for him. Very sad and unbelievable. Glad I don't have money like that.
I called it from jump after hearing the symptoms and how did it take all that hospital time and what were those snail paced doctors doing for ALL of that time he was in and back and forth from the hospital!!! Terrible doctors 😑 😪
As soon as the show mentioned that the wife was doting, and I saw her feeding him, there might as well have been a neon sign over her head. We want to believe the best of our families, which can blind us to the truth.
Nerve pain isn't always treatable. I have ot from a botched root canal where they burned a nerve with FORMALDEHYDE. I've been hunting for something to make this go away but the best I've found is taking the edge off. I can't imagine your whole body hurting.
I guessed it was the wife from the beginning. That poor man, the amount of pain he was in and the months of suffering he endured is shocking. I hope that woman rots in jail for what she did to him. There was no need to put Bobby & the rest of his family through all of that mysery. So, so, sad. 😢
What were these doctors doing? The first sign of poisoning is the loss of hair. That should have given those doctor a huge clue. I wouldn't want to go to that hospital if i become that sick. I watch a lot of these shows and often wonder how these doctors got their licenses.
Once the doctors found that it was thalium poisoning, he should have been monitored round the clock, his visitors screened, and searched, and the police contacted... The investigation determined that this didn't occur from the lab, so it is logical to deduce that he was deliberately poisoned. The fact that his wife was involved in a settlement regarding her first husband's death, should have raised suspicions. Even though this happened decades ago, the faulty investigating, overlooking the obvious, etc. is unacceptable. Bobby's life could have been saved if only those around him were more aware and added two and two together.
I mentioned before that I think they check for poisonings fastest now then in the past. I am chronically ill and when we were looking for reasons they checked me for heavy metal poisoning. Not because they thought I was being intentionally poisoned but because we live in a very old home with old pipes and such (we have replaced that now). Our line from the house to the main road/connection were pre-WW2. so they wanted to make sure I wasn't picking up anything accidentally
This doctor was smart but no common since his wife was poisoning him. Nor she had the ability of setting a house fire and killing their kids. Dang doctor you filled for a divorce did you expect fair play.
They use medical grade prussian blue to help treat some heavy metal toxicity. Prussian blue is essentially oxidized cyanide (ferrous ferrocyanide salts)
Such a mystery! We were all so frustrated and were all out of options! There was nothing we could do! And yet nobody thought about doing a tox screen to figure out this mystery illness? Even after the second time? In two different hospitals? This is just ridiculous...
I am amazed that the doctors did not check for poisoning on the very first visit. When my farmer husband was admitted to Creighton Hospital for “flu” symptoms the 1st thing they checked was heavy metal poisoning. It WAS from using many farm chemicals. He was treated & released. God bless the Doctors❤!
I understand the disbelief, but poisoning, especially with substances like thallium, is very rare for cases like these, and carrying each specific, expensive test is something that not all hospitals can manage
What metal was it?
@@ThePeterDislikeShow Thallium I believe
@@daft_mervy You are right.
Glad your husband is ok and they tested for it quickly. It’s possible hospitals near farming areas see instances of poisoning from farm chemicals with some frequency,and are aware of the possibility in their patient population.
All I have to say is that when you do evil, evil will comes back to your life 1000 times worst. RIP Robert Curley🙏🏼😞Deepest condolences to his family.
I don’t agree with the statement that if you do evil things then you will suffer…. My father hated and abused me my entire life but he never suffered but I sure did!
RIP Bobby
@@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRagsI am deeply sorry for your many sufferings. I understand, and have learned about past life regressions. Everything begins to make sense when you see our present life as a continuation of our past lives. Do good, and build lots of good karma into your current life to be happy. I pray that you will find your way out of your pain.
SPOILER ALERT
Thanks...I was reading comments while watching the video.
@@kimdasko6952 Watch first, then enjoy some comments. That's how I do it.
When the person is so sick and in hospital doctors should stop home cooked foods and drinks
Amen to this
Right! I was just wondering why they would allow this to happen if they don't know what's poisoning him
Well sail. Absolutely.
Because hospital food is so healthy???? Have you ever been to a hospital cafeteria? It should be outlawed.
@@lmk0799 cafeteria and patient food are different
I've just started watching this and wonder why the protocol isn't that they check for poisoning with certain symptoms.
Like strange pain in hands and feet?
Oh now it is. This is like before 911 airports didn’t have good security. Nowadays hospitals always check for poisoning with any symptoms.
year 1991.
@@bassingbasics6621 I HIGHLY doubt that. Wd lv to believe it is so, but my guess is the medical profession is still suffering acute symptoms of Arsenic Stupidity by Proxy.
It Took a different set of doctors when every doctor should know the classic symptoms of Poisoning.. Unacceptable
THANK YOU. My thought exactly. ESPECIALLY if it is the husband who has the symptoms on the overwhelming majority of poisoners (murderers) are women. Just as 90% of retail theft is women. A couple of rare times when women dominate the criminal categories.
I'm surprised no-one thought of poisoning earlier. Her court case of late husbands death???
I have experienced the uncaring attitude of hospitals on several occasions. The state of the medical profession is in my opinion needs much improvement
Yes... I totally agree... I have been suffering for 9 years now... I almost DIED... While under Doctors care... Now that it has happened... I can see it was all very obvious... With the extreme weight loss (135lbs)... Plus... All of the results from the lab work... Which was totally ignored... The VA WAS THE CAUSE... To this day... I still am suffering 24 hours a day... Now... With a heart condition... As well as other conditions with all the side effects that come from them being chronic and severe... From the Total Lack of proper care... I truly believe they are wanting me to die... Instead of helping me... As they continue to deflect the issues... Gaslighting me... At every appointment... As if I am ignorant or something...
@robertyoung2819 horrible can you believe a doctor injected 💉 me with the wrong medication I had a strike. He lied saying I was rude demanding pain meds. I'm allergic to narcotics.
Unfortunately, I have to agree. I know there are many caring Doctors and Nurses around, but there is also a huge problem with apathy and distrust of people who are sick and coming into hospital for help, particularly if the person is in pain. I know that there is a subset of people who go to hospitals attempting to procure pain meds, etc. but now it seems that medical professionals suspect everyone of that! There are ways that they can check to see if a patient has been in and out of ER’s continually, as well as medications a patient has been prescribed, so there really is no excuse for treating so many innocent people as if they are there just for that. It causes many people to be undiagnosed for the actual issue. Every patient, whether they are a patient who is prescribed pain meds, or not should be treated at the outset as if they are in fact there for a legitimate issue, and not like an addiction attempting to get more pain medications. If they are, it certainly will become obvious even if given the benefit of the doubt at the outset. That way those who are not trying to run the system get the care they need also. It is malpractice if they are not, just like it is if these medical professionals are not considering everything that could be causing symptoms that are easily explained by poisoning. Unfortunately, mistakes in cases like these truly have devastating results!
Big pharma don't care.
I just read your comment, you mentioned the VA... Is it possible that you were exposed to any toxins/ contamination while in the military? I mention this because I was a dependent at Camp Lejeune ( Marine/Navy base) which is a part of a huge lawsuit for water contamination. My health has completely deteriorated and for years, doctors have ignored me, downplayed it, treated me like a guinea pig, or as if I was crazy. Many contaminants are being found at various military bases - forever chemicals, even Agent Orange.
Neurologist should have suspected that from the start
This ended without us being told if Joanne was convicted and how much time she is serving--I bet you she was responsible for her first husband’s death too-heartless psychopath!
Joanne Curley was convicted of 3rd degree murder in 1996 for the death of her husband Bobby. She received a 20 year sentence and was released in 2016
Sactly what I said 🤷🏽♀️🫣🤷🏽♀️🇬🇧
20 years, released in 2016
Truth
Wow. Smh.
They're needs to be a rule that. If doctors suspect someones been poisoned. No food or drink from family members and all visits should have a staff member present. Its baffling the wouldn't consider that maybe they're was a chance it was intentional.
Exactly
I’m sure that’s in place now, unfortunately something has to happen first
Exactly 💯
Yeap as soon as they suspected poisoning the police should have been called and NO ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND HIM UNSUPERVISED. I KNEW IT WAS THAT WIFE.
@DrKb2935 exactly! I guessed straight away it was the wife - thank you, Agatha Christie - all that iced tea & a law suit....alarm bells should be ringing.
It was obvious to me within the first 5 minutes that he died and his wife was responsible even though I had no prior knowledge of this case. Just observe the actors who were playing the people involved and the actual people who knew him in real life in the interviews. There were no interviews with him or his wife, just his family and coworkers and health care workers who worked on his case. Conclusion: he didn't survive and his wife did not want to be involved in the story. That was enough to raise suspicions of his wife, but when they kept talking about how she would give him thermoses full of iced tea every day for work that clinched it. That's an oddly specific detail to emphasize.
Agreed I know my own body I would also know wtf was wrong with me especially drinking TEA all the time how can all these people be so stupid after medical school for like 8 to 10 yrs
YOU BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE AND FALSE RESUMES WORK IN HOSPITALS.
It was obvious when they said her first husband died and she was after a settlement, then when they mentioned the iced tea she was making for him each day, and when she happened not to be shown in the interviews.
I had a guess as soon as they mentioned "Iced Tea"
Right
🖐️
I did as well.
LOL. I guessed it from "Not feeling well", lol. Why is it not standard to consider it based on the initial symptoms?
Me too.
As a medical professional when all else fails then check for poisons
Start with toxicology
A serial killer doesnt cause this much torture to a person. This is the most evil act i have ever seen. This posioning went on for months. The pain this man went through is unimaginable.......
I'm a house painter ,and guess what ,one of the first things I'd do is check for FUCKN poisoning
she only got 20 years for murder..... what a insult to his family
I totally agree
a typical sentence is 30 years but they do get day for day for good behavior
That is so horrible! She probably got a lighter sentence only because she is a female or used her fake charm to make the judge feel sorry for her.
@@sheilaemadian 30 years is typical, but some jurisdictions only run 20 for murder. 30 is more for the violent shocking multiple stab wounds or severe beatings, so the 20 years does make some sense. In Texas murder is about 14 years, they're pretty violent down there.
It just makes me angry that these hospitals do not check for poisoning. What is wrong with them? Why do they not check for that right away??? This is the 3rd poisoning story I have watched. You would think doctors would be smarter than this. These people in these stories that have been poisoned suffered so much and for so long and in my opinion so needlessly. Doctors need to be trained in the symptoms of poisoning. This is ridiculous.
It IS RIDICULOUS! Obvious symptoms & why I do not trust our medical system anymore… they’re just all about $$$ now… 😢😢😢
Same. Pain and tingling in the extremities that seems to have no other cause, and then especially the hair falling out. Test for and rule out heavy metals! I thought this would be arsenic or cyanide. Second guess was antifreeze, but the symptoms didn't quite fit for that.
yah I feel the same. It's so obvious. How can they be so stupid Gosh I sure hope she is in jail for that.
UTube doctor after knowing the facts AND watching 3 poisoning stories 😂.
Good grief, no wonder we are doomed.
No need for educated professionals anymore. 5-60 minutes of a video and you have the expertise of years long schooling and training.
WAKE UP! You are watching entertainment BASED on true stories. Why don’t you try poisoning your loved one and see how long it takes to catch you.
Some hospitals don’t have the resources to check for certain types of poisons/heavy metals.
These poisoning cases are unthinkable. Just to watch someone (not just anyone!) dying in agony, slowly -- and before your eyes -- and adding up to the process day by day... I mean... how?..
Evil lives here
Evil!
Great episode family members should not bring drinks and food without it being tested by the hospital Nothing By Mouth thanks very educational
As soon as I heard she was in court trying to get a settlement from her previous dead husband, knew she was behind the poisoning.
Yes, that fully gave it away right away!
I think I remember this one. The wife was putting thallium into his tea jug for work and she was around the family and acting like she really cared about his health. It is a very rare component in labs that can mimic the same symptoms as Guillain-Barre. It is so cruel to do this to someone who doesn’t know they are in danger. 😢
As I was watching this, as soon as I heard him say that his legs and hands were on fire, I knew right away that was a poisoning... that seems to be a consistent symptom with poisonings of heavy metal poisoning
Exactly! Although I thought it would be arsenic, not thalium.
oh I didn't know
That's how I knew too.
@@lizettewanzer8650 With arsenic you get a lot of gastric symptoms initially and the nerve issues come in once levels get a bit higher.
Thallium doesn't cause gastric symptoms(because it's WAY rarer in nature. Arsenic is somwhat common in ground water in many places so our bodies evolved to react to it, purge it, and grow resistant to repeated exposure. Thallium doesn't trigger a gastric response so the first symptoms are nerve damage and organ failure, that's also why it's quite a bit deadlier and harder to recover from even when exposure stops)
I had a strange illness in 1989. It was also very painful and mysterious because the doctors cannot know whats the cause. They took blood from my spinal cord to see whats wrong but can't know the cause of my illness. At least 2 times a day it happened that I feel extremely shivering cold but for only about 5 minutes, then become extremely hot. I was in the hospital for 2 months, and fortunately my body just became better on its own. And so I can feel and see this man's illness is even 100 times as painful as what I experienced.
No blood in the spinal cord
@@613miami I immediately thought the same thing (spinal fluid), but knew what was meant
How could this woman put his husband through all of this pain? Thats diabolic. She deserves the worst punishment possible.
@@madelainemadelaine2934 correct
Yep!
Pain in hands and feet 🦶 sounds like arsenic poisoning
And I have a pain in my head from yet another double-set of hospital and neurologists not connecting the dots for arsenic poisoning. I will call it, "Arsenic poisoning by proxy" & they are suffering from "Arsenic stupidity by proxy".
The problem is that pain in hands and feet are symptoms of nerve pain and nerve pain presents in tons of illnesses, first and foremost being diabetes so that's why it isn't always top of the list when doctors see the symptoms but if I'd already ruled out the major stuff I would've checked heavy metals!
Thallium poisoning...wrote someone
His wife another death 2 husbands dead and both of their life insurance
As SOON as they mentioned her prior husband had died, I knew it was her.
@@lizettewanzer8650 it was her looks she had a i don’t care look and suspicious 😒
Why didn't they run all the test before he died, that they did after his death?
What an awful, awful thing to do ti another human being !! An eye for an eye should happen here..
Yes. But it doesn't
She needs ied tea most eaey
Hospitals should always test for heavy metals when nothing else turns up in tests.
When they talked about the 1mill I knew she was killing him.
Ice tea everytime she sees him? She also pushed food when he didn't want it? This is screaming at me.
His wife Joanne should be arrested now and convicted!!!!!!!!!
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Poisoning is very easy to detect- if it is suspected. I believe for the measure of safety, it should be tested for in cases like this.
Takes an unbelievably ice cold human to put this much agonizing suffering on another human, especially one who loves and trusts them.
At this point, they should have already checked for poisons.
If I was ever that sick for even an hour I'd be screaming for help... an entire day... id be demanding tests .. 2 days .. id be wanting to be euthenized.... it took everyone wayyyy to long to get serious.
You have to recall they have no NHS.
@@Nasauniverse001NHS would take longer 🤣🤣 it's still not recovered from 2009 crash
You know this was 1991, right? 😊
Agree its ridiculous as I said I know my body also. Honey if I just got diarrhea or vomiting I would definitely know something wrong with me. I'm 75 never been sick at all, not even diaherra
@@Nasauniverse001insurance is better than the NHS. All day, every day. And I’m sure he had insurance.
When I heard “Troubled relationship” and “Money” I knew almost immediately that she was poisoning him to take the settlement.
And... her 1st husband is dead. The doctors may have been more inclined to check for poisoning if they were aware of Joanne's history.
Yup
Same here. Then she had stayed away for a while which is when he was feeling better. Then she reappears for party and he gets sick again while she " makes sure he stays nourished"
Just evil :/
Beyond evil
You really milked this story. It took much too long to get to the point but i suspected both the poisoning and the perpitrator very early on, then suddenly, it was over. No epilogue, and what about her first husband?
Yes, lots of us have an attention deficit and can't take it when the stories take forever to get to the points.
What a wicked thing she done to her husband she should divorce him rather than taking from his beloved family well she won,t enjoy her life I feel sorry for the young child how sad.
20 years of jail is something serious, but for someone like that it's a mere caress.
It’s a joke! She should of got life without parole
@@tracyshaffer4510Yes. Life without parole. Dangerous woman. She will look for another victim.
How did she not get premeditated felony murder? Life in prison, no possibility of parole. She is already out free in the world. How scary. And sad.
Prussian blue is the antidote for thalium poisoning. It's a dodgy gamble, since there is no known amount that will do the trick; doctors just have to administer and hope for the best. I have never seen a case like this in person, nor have I ever handled any heavy metal (other than liquid mercury -- the 60's were a dodgy time for us kids).
perhaps they should always have this prussian blue in all er ... it would be a quick heavy metal test ... just paint it on lips and see if it turns blue. They always have methylene blue in ERs.
Lol, even in the late seventies in Chemistry lessons we were allowed to play with small amounts of mercury!
@@clareshaughnessy2745 Yep. My friend was warned, as were we all, that the one thing that would wreck our class rings was mercury. Well, here we were in chemistry class, 1972, and we hear this vicious hissing and a loud crack. My friend Ray, a very smart guy, had forgot this info and the sounds we heard were the mercury fusing with the gold in his ring and then the stone being forcefully flung towards a wall. It was kind of awesome!
@@josi4251 wow! Sigh, life was much more fun in those days
@@clareshaughnessy2745 It was a lot of fun! Dangerous as hell, no trigger warnings, we were on our own, but hey, at least we weren't dirty hippies. I think that's what our parents thought anyway.
I know! I have watched too many of these, that end in poisoning evidence. Spotted red flags quickly! That was horribly brazen of her, right in presence of family! May he be at peace in Heaven, and she be in prison! 🙏🧡
God bless his family. 🙏🧡🙏🧡🙏
YES lol I'm not alone.
Back then they didn't have the internet, and unless they watched shows like Forensic files (didn't start until 1996), people would likely not have heard about others being poisoned. They're going to look for the most obvious causes (Occam's Razor) first then continue from there.
They do that now, too, because they need to get the correct treatment for the patient going ASAP to help them get better. Plus, as someone else said, smaller hospitals don't have the resources to check for poisonings. They'd have to send blood samples, etc. away to outside labs. They can take forever, it seems, to get test the samples and get results back to the requesting hospital.
JoAnn was convicted and sentenced to 20 years. She, unfortunately for anyone else who meets her, was released in 2016 after serving the 20 years. I hope she doesn't re-offend and put another person through this agony and torture ever again.
If she repents and is sorry she'll go to heaven too.
@@scootermom1791 I wonder if she got her million dollar payout? Or did I miss something?
As soon as I noticed the symptoms I knew it was heavy metal poisoning!!! What I don’t understand is what takes the doctors so long to find out???
We’re the hospitals sued over this case?
😮 I dont believe it! Someone so sweet could be sooo evil! The world is full of them.
Incases like this dont allow anyone to bring food from outside
MAKES ME THINK THAT DOCTORS ARE NOT THAT SMART. SCARY😮
Exactly
I know doctors aren't that smart. 😡
The classic signs of heavy metal poisoning and none of the doctors even considered it.
Just looked this up: She was released in 2016 after serving 20 years.
well she shouldn't have been,shes dangerous,i want to know what her first husband died of??
I feel sorry for her next future husband. 😮
Should not have been let out
Once a psychopath--always a psychopath, they never change. She will harm/hurt others with her freedom.@@diannebalemi6334
That’s what’s wrong with our justice system a good man’s life was only worth 20 years in jail for the killer. Who or what is going to stop her from doing it again? Life in prison should mean life in prison.
I saw this on forensic files. She should have gotten life in prison for committing murder on her husband ! It was a premeditated murder!
Sleeping with the enemy
She's poisoning him I know it
Antimony may be a better choice than thalium. Not that I know anything about it.
Yeah didn’t take long to realize lol
I'm 20 mins in and it's clear the wife is doing it. I could be speaking to early but that's my gut.
The doctors could have used you earlier to tell them
How can nobody réalise
Why dont they ever think of poisoning early on?
If they suspected some kind of poisoning why in the world would they not try to control and monitor what food and drink is brought in there to him? That wife would have been the first one I would have suspected. No one should have been allowed to stay with him unsupervised!
That’s crazy!
8 years ago, a friend of mine died from thallium poisoning. At first the cops thought it was her husband who did it. They finally figured out it was from where she was working and it was suicide. She worked at a local newspaper where they used to use it. She took the old container and drank it a little at a time.
I can't imagine a wife causing such pain in her husband and not feel anything as your husband suffers.
I saw this case on Forensic Files (Medical Detectives) earlier, that's why I knew the wife was the murderer from the beginning. ♥️♥️
Ive watched loads of these episodes but for some reason i kept thinking he was going to make a recovery. I think as soon as they mentioned Thalium i knew right away the wife put it in the ice tea. The wife killed him .EVIL WITCH.
Tell your wife you changed the beneficiary on your life insurance to your parents and you'll probably get better.
I can’t imagine watching your husband suffer so violently! 😢
I think people are being way too harsh on the medical staff- they did the best they could with what resources and knowledge they had. Poisonings are not very common, and in a case like this they want to treat what it most likely is asap. GBS is already rare, so if they think he has that it goes to show how uncommon an intentional poisoning is that they would first consider a rare disease. A smaller hospital might not even have a lab which can test for poisons. You need special equipment and tests for certain substances. Not to mention the internet wasn’t widely available then, they couldn’t just google the symptoms. This was 1991! They would have had to find a book on poisonings, or already be specially trained to recognize symptoms of different types of poisonings. Things definitely could have been done differently, but they were trying their best with what they knew.
Medical staff not knowing is not an excuse. They could get 2nd or 3rd opinions. They can read up too.
Seems like a simple comprehensive blood test should have been performed.
@@ritawallace-reed7500broadly speaking medical professionals are trained to first rule out common causes of conditions before they start digging around like Dr House for super rare illnesses. The commenter you responded to is right that yes, poisoning is rare and deliberate poisoning is even more so. It is not a totally unreasonable situation that a doctor’s first inclination will be towards simple, common illnesses or conditions, because these are the most likely by pure statistical reasoning.
Plus a lot of medical diagnosis is about a process of elimination. You start with the simple and general, then as you test and analyze the patient, you can begin to then steer your diagnostic path towards specific, perhaps rarer or more unusual, diagnoses based on your results.
His roommate rating his pain at an 8 was wildly ridiculous
“wildly” ridiculous? “wildly”?
As a mother of 3, I think the actor pulled off what a '10' would be. Found myself squirming through those scenes.
@@tiffanym4202 agreed. Spot on performance
Ikr! I was like wtf?? I was expecting him to say off the scale or 100 out of 10 or something!
@@rosemarysigur2007 yup
It Is Too Stupid That The Medical Hospital Staff - Didn’t EVEN THINK Of THE POSSIBILITY OF POISONING!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡
I agree with what you said. I wouldn't go to that hospital if you paid me.
This was 1991!! Things weren't released and easily shared like they are today... my goodness.
Some doctors also don't want to do some more test even you are telling them your feelings. Like me i have chest pain but it's not poisoning. I'm frustrated of this feeling of mine. My ecg my xray are normal but i have chest pain
@@overthinkerchannelI once went to the ER thinking I might be having a hear attack. Turned out that my chest pains were esophageal spasms caused by acid reflux. Something to consider. Good luck.
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40:40 "Difficult decision"...ha! I bet it wasn't the least bit difficult for JoAnn to release him from life support. She's a sadistic monster! I can't believe she could sit there and watch him suffer in agony like that. And what's even worse is he seemed to somehow get better when he had the pizza party. He's feeling good; getting better; and she intentionally gives him Thallium again and made him (and his family!) suffer all over again!
She could have chosen to walk away at that (or any) point, and she may have never been found out. She truly is a heartless soul!
She is a "true" psychopath". They have NO empathy for others, in fact, they enjoy that they are outsmarting their victims even the pain & suffering. They are, very unfortunately, among us. The victims family is so nice they cannot even conceive of such evil. May God grant them comfort.
I can't believe she was getting the millions and it still wasn't enough for her. She wanted what she could get for him. Very sad and unbelievable. Glad I don't have money like that.
@@WandaPashe same! In fact, I never want money like that. More money=more problems IMO.
What a great guy the roommate is
I called it from jump after hearing the symptoms and how did it take all that hospital time and what were those snail paced doctors doing for ALL of that time he was in and back and forth from the hospital!!! Terrible doctors 😑 😪
As soon as the show mentioned that the wife was doting, and I saw her feeding him, there might as well have been a neon sign over her head. We want to believe the best of our families, which can blind us to the truth.
I have just started this but I think I can guess what is happening! Bet it is the wife!
😢😢 she should feel the pain she made him feel 😢😢
What a horrible woman. Hope she never got to use a dime if he money she received. The suffering she caused him. So sad. My gosh.
a spouse with previous history of a dead partner seems sus
Pins and needles feel so bad, I can imagine anything 100x worse than that poor man
Uncontrolled pain, vomiting, numbness and hair loss....sounds like arsenic
Lovely real program.. We need more of this elegant program
This is what happens when people value money over love it makes me 😡😡😭😭😭😭😭😡😡😡😡
Yes. And lots of men do this to their wives & girlfriends!
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This was obviously a case for Dr. House MD.
Or, The Good Doctor! 😊
@@A.Briggs628yes the good dr. He is amazing
Why are. these dense. Doctors allowing him to suffer so much extreme pain??!!!
Nerve pain isn't always treatable. I have ot from a botched root canal where they burned a nerve with FORMALDEHYDE. I've been hunting for something to make this go away but the best I've found is taking the edge off. I can't imagine your whole body hurting.
Why why...even I know to test for toxins/heavy metals with the the hands and feet symptoms. Such a shame!
Those symptoms are NOT typical Gillian-Barre Syndrome
This was very sad and upsetting to watch!
I am not an M.D,, but the first thing that came to my mind was poisoning; the neuro symptoms, particularly when he started losing hair. 😮
Look at the spouse first. They must do backgrounds on her first.
3rd one i've watched. At this point i could write the script myself.
Joann Curly had been released from jail in 2016. She should have gotten more time... This case is so sad. 😢
disease is called new wife who is extremely greedy
Every time his wife gave him that ice tea, I knew it was her
I guessed it was the wife from the beginning. That poor man, the amount of pain he was in and the months of suffering he endured is shocking. I hope that woman rots in jail for what she did to him. There was no need to put Bobby & the rest of his family through all of that mysery.
So, so, sad. 😢
What a cruel human..
The guy died a painful worst death..😢
What were these doctors doing? The first sign of poisoning is the loss of hair. That should have given those doctor a huge clue. I wouldn't want to go to that hospital if i become that sick. I watch a lot of these shows and often wonder how these doctors got their licenses.
Always the "iced tea" in America! And that was weird of the ward mate to rate his pain 8/10 like WTF??
Once the doctors found that it was thalium poisoning, he should have been monitored round the clock, his visitors screened, and searched, and the police contacted... The investigation determined that this didn't occur from the lab, so it is logical to deduce that he was deliberately poisoned. The fact that his wife was involved in a settlement regarding her first husband's death, should have raised suspicions. Even though this happened decades ago, the faulty investigating, overlooking the obvious, etc. is unacceptable. Bobby's life could have been saved if only those around him were more aware and added two and two together.
That should of made the family think
I mentioned before that I think they check for poisonings fastest now then in the past. I am chronically ill and when we were looking for reasons they checked me for heavy metal poisoning. Not because they thought I was being intentionally poisoned but because we live in a very old home with old pipes and such (we have replaced that now). Our line from the house to the main road/connection were pre-WW2. so they wanted to make sure I wasn't picking up anything accidentally
This doctor was smart but no common since his wife was poisoning him. Nor she had the ability of setting a house fire and killing their kids. Dang doctor you filled for a divorce did you expect fair play.
An 8? I must have a low tolerance to pain, but it sounded like he was at an 11 on the pain scale!
They use medical grade prussian blue to help treat some heavy metal toxicity. Prussian blue is essentially oxidized cyanide (ferrous ferrocyanide salts)
Such a mystery! We were all so frustrated and were all out of options! There was nothing we could do! And yet nobody thought about doing a tox screen to figure out this mystery illness? Even after the second time? In two different hospitals? This is just ridiculous...
Intense Pain can happen to anybody at any time. Audience wishes hapless victims all the best. Cheers!
Doctors have got to start testing for heavy metals from the start, especially when they have flu-like symptoms and numbness in the hands and feet.
They tell us that he can’t touch anyone and then they show us a picture of him holding his mothers hand