Nice review, it almost 100% mirrors my own experience of using these monitors. Thanks by the way for using my Sound Demo in your video, it's appreciated! I do have one more issue to bring up about the 10-3 G4s: When the frequency of the music reaches a certain low threshold below ~30Hz, the drivers & amp seem to have a very difficult time controlling the excursion, resulting in excessive bass driver movement that might make you think the speaker may cause damage to itself. I've tried doing some more "scientific" testing on them, and KRK says they can reproduce 26Hz, whereas my own testing leads me to believe that they can hit those frequencies but with "too much" driver excursion, which severely limits the SPL capability at those low frequencies. If you do try this (and intend to use them for such things as HipHop/Rap Beats), be aware that these speakers bottom out very easily with super deep bass and high playback volumes.
Why on earth are you trying to even replicate 26hz through a 10 inch woofer. Even very heavy low frequency dance music nobody ever uses bass lower than 32hz or so. A lot of sound engineers with big rigs will high pass their subs at 35hz or so with a steep roll off. Some even higher about 38hz to save their drivers. Anything below that is just wasted amp energy as it's barely audible it's just trouser flapping air movement and prevents good cone control from the amp, which in turn will muddy the sound.
@@gr1mr3apa15 if you use small passive speakers at home and music presents a 26hz signal, the speakers will receive it. how it handles it depends on the reflex design etc. but if krk specs an active monitor to 26hz with what appears to be a long throw woofer it should be able to handle atleast some of it. if it doesnt then redesign the speaker.
TBH, the reason most monitor manufacturers don't have bass extension that low is precisely because of that. To produce really low frequencies the speaker needs to move a ton more. If a speaker is designed to go that low, it should handle it fine and not be damaging, the only negative is it will start to distort the accuracy of the mids if the same speaker is trying to handle that freq range too, but this is why these are three-way, and not two-way. If you ever watch a big club sub driver moving ... they can come multiple inches out of the housing, and this is perfectly fine, as they are designed to do this. My old krk 8's used to have real far travel, but the drivers themselves were bulletproof (literally, they are made out of Kevlar lol). Only the amps let them down imho, but that's a different conversation. What I have found with KRKs is they often will have the low end boosted by design so the monitors are pleasing to listen to music on, and to truly get close to a flat response for critical listening, you'll need correction software. What this means is the bass driver/cab/dsp will natively be boosting and producing more bass than the source material actually has in it, and this can often lead to sloppy, slow bass response (because there really shouldn't be that much low end in what you are playing back). I bet if you use something like sonar works and set it to extended bass mode so it's also correcting the low end right the way down, it'll tighten up the monitor's low end response a butt load. They still will probably move a ton, but as I've stated, they are designed to do so, they just should have a much tighter response.
Your assessment is absolutely correct. I hoped that KRK would have fixed this issue in this version of the 10-3s. I have a pair of 10-3 G3s that do the same exact thing. I have tried everything to reduce the hiss but to no avail. I love the sound that comes out of these and so does everyone else that comes in the studio. I don't really mix with them, but I do use them on a daily basis even with the annoying hiss.
If Gen 3 RP10-3s with Class-AB amping also have this hiss/self-noise, then it is definitely the internal power supply and/or crossover circuitry that gives that out. Not the amps. Strange.
@@frankfarago2825 Could be possible. I don't know too much about electronics, so I can't tell. Otherwise I probably would have opened them up and tried to fix it myself.
Good... Thanks! And so I removed any doubt about the choice of monitors. I have Kali IN-8 second wave and I was wondering if the KRK Rokit 10-3 G4 would be better since they are about the same price!
I had ordered these G4's before I saw your video so I was quite apprehensive but I can say my pair are totally quiet even with single ended connections ( used with RCA to XLR adaptor). Oddly enough I was thinking that maybe KRK had modified their new production but the dates of supply are on the outer boxes, one was 2021 and the other 2019 but no noise from either.
Glad to hear you don't have any issues at your end! Good luck with them! Just a question, are you on 230v or 120v? Perhaps that has some impact, idk, just guessing?
@@ohyesitsme Hmmm me too, so that won't be it. Some people seem to have it, other don't, weird. I definitely thought a power conditioner would have fixed it for me, but sadly it didn't.
@@ohyesitsme I did not have any of those close, nor did I have any humming, just loud hiss. And even when connecting them to an outlet on the other side of the building, I heard the same hiss. I have some other speaker systems and none of those have this kind of hiss. My best guess is that not all KRK's power converters are made to the same standard?
Worried about ordering these, self noise is common in affordable monitors, my Rokit 8 G4, Focal Alpha 65 Evo and Adam T8V have all had somewhat noticeable self noise, so I expect some, but I'm curious to see just how bad it will be with the pair I get.. I really want a 3-way, but I'm not interested in Dynaudio, so the other option is Adam A8H's which are only a few hundred less than Barefoot Footprint02's.. Kali IN-8 V2 are cool but I don't love the coaxial design, and dip switch tuning is annoying. I wish Adam or Focal would make 3-way monitors in their T and Alpha series!!
I also have a little self-noise in my little yamahas, but the rokits had WAY more self-noise. Sadly, at a lower price point, there are not a lot of options for 3-ways. Recently encountered the Swissonic X8 online though, but having never heard them, I cannot speak about their quality. Interested to hear how they sound though. Perhaps an option you might consider.
@@SirFreak You can only get the Swissonic from Thomann Music in Germany. It is their house brand, made in China, of course. That's not for everybody. For example, they don't ship to Russia anymore. They do ship to the USA, but the shipping cost per monitor would be over USD $200. And what if you need to return them of have them fixed? Can be a pretty expensice racket. Also, the X8 only has the 8-inch LF woofer. The KRK has a much larger 10-incher. Huge diff. Usually 3-way studio monitors with 9-inch, 9-5-inch, 10-inch woofers start at $3500 and quickly go up from that. There are some reviews out on the Thomann-Swissonic X8 3-ways, and nobody is complaining about hiss or rself-noise with them. Here in Europe, I can order them with free shippiong, so that part is cool.
Sucks to hear that... I was told the KRK8 had less issues with hiss, but I guess that might not be correct then... If you can still exchange them, I would try to find a monitor with less hiss.
I have a pair of 5-G4s and I don't have noise, apparently not all units seem to have this problem. I believe that there is an electronic component of the power source that does not work correctly in its range, like a capacitor that functions as a filter responsible for the high switching frequency. I like to have these 10-3s, but my room is small for them.
I bought a pair of these monitors last month. I am a video editor and for me the KRK Rokit 10-3 G4 monitors are perfect. Because are also very good (for my taste) when I listen to my music. The sound comes from my macbook pro (usb C), to my Scarlett Solo and from here, to the monitors. The cables are balanced. I use the Music app, from Apple and yes, with some old songs the noise is present, but I think it’s normal. When the monitors are powered on, I don’t hear any hiss or noise, I tried with the volume at maximum. Thank you for your review; I will come back after when I will try to record some voiceovers, I’m curious if the hiss/noise is present. P.S.: Sorry for my English
Nice to see this review, I was very curious about these monitors. I wish you had an audio sample of the hiss with the mic at 1m and monitors off, then monitors on to hear the level of noise compared to the ambient at 1m.
Thanks for your message. Sadly I didn't think about doing that, and I no longer have them anymore. The only video I have demonstrating the hiss is one that I sent to a friend with my mobile phone on messenger. One part was without music playing, and one was with music playing silently (where you can still hear the hiss). I'm not sure if the recording with my phone fully captures the experience, but I'm going to upload it and link it over here so you can at least have an idea.
Here's the 2 videos I sent to my friend using messenger. You might need to turn up your volume a little bit. First nothing is playing, then some music is playing silently. ua-cam.com/users/shortsuL5WR0rvoxY
@@SirFreak Thanks for the effort but to be honest the only way to hear the difference remotely is if you have a comparison of monitors on and monitors off. Now it's really impossible to tell if the hiss is the inherent noise of the mobile phone mic or the speakers. But the hiss is indeed very prominent in this recording so it's either the monitor or the mobile phone to blame.
@@spiroszaharakis2648 I'm pretty sure that my phone mic is indeed noisy as well. But I must say that the part where the music was playing silently gave me a somewhat similar experience here in my room, when I was playing the music silently. So I hope that gives you some idea. Sorry I cannot help you more.
I run these daily, you can easily get rid of the noise with the Behringer MicroHD HD400. It's a common problem with ground loops and dirty power, and studio monitors (my Yamahas has the same problem in my room).. you're driving some massive amps there, so you could've considered that before telling all these people that it's an unsolvable problem XD. I paid less than 20 bucks for a solution ;) (I also originally bought it for my HS8s.. and fixed the problem there as well).
Hey, thanks for your comment. As I said in the video, even with no audio cables connected and connected to the grid trough a power conditioner, the issue still persisted here. In my case it was not noise or hum coming from the audio cables/interface, so I don't think a box like that Behringer could have solved the issue for me. Thanks for letting us know this though, it might help in some cases. Also, I never said this was an unfixable problem. I just could not solve it. I switched to other monitors and those are dead silent in my studio.
nice review, im considering these in my livingroom for more "complex" psytrance with many layers, somethimes with poor production quality, would you recomend? i think they are very cheap for a active 3 way system with no need for external sub
If it's just as a party system or for casual listening, these could be good. You'll probably hear the poor production quality issues on them as well. But just know that you could have quite a bit of hiss from them. I'd definitely try to keep some distance from them when listening.
I have 10-3 G3’s and I never noticed a hiss until relatively recently. Thinking it may be noise generated by something else recently added on the same circuit, but maybe they alway did it 🤷♂️
It's possible. Or degrading components over time. I saw a video somewhere about older KRK monitors that had some kind of black gunk on the circuit boards, and over time the gunk became conductive. From what I heard the G3's should have less issues with hiss, because those still use AB amps, but I've never heard a G3, so I cannot confirm this. And someone else who reacted to my video, who has the G3 as well, was also mentioning hiss. So I don't know in how far that info was correct..
I got some second hand and they're phenomenal, smoke my lp8s yes there's a little hiss if you stick your face in front of them but these are not for near field anyway, of you want near fields get some Adams or I like my rcf's a ton the detail and image is nuts
Sadly, with the pair I had, the noise was obnoxiously loud, clearly audible over the music, even at meters away. It's weird to me that some people don't seem to have this issue. Perhaps they made a revision, or not all of those speakers are made to the same standard. But glad to hear that you don't seem to have this issue!
I'm using the Focal Shape 65's now. While the Solo6b is regarded as being a better monitor, I listened to both those monitors at the shop and just liked the Focal Shapes more. They just sounded more natural to me. But that might just be my personal preference.
i owned a pair of KRK 6 gen 3 and i had to sell them because of electrical interference, i could hear my hard drive's activity in the speakers even tho it was really far away. i ended up using some Hi-Fi Technics speakers in my office instead until i got the money to spend on other studio monitors and i ended with KEF LS50, they're not studio monitors but they actually sound very neutral and flat, with nicely detailed highs that don't get me tired.
Great that you found a worthy replacement! A lot of hifi-systems are now also going more flat, because there are a lot of people that want to hear the sound as it was originally intended.
I think they desgined for mid field and u just have them to close to u. I own a pair to use as home speakers, they stay beside tv and i cannot hear the hiss but if i will come closer i can
I definitely agree that I had them quite close for them being midfields. However, the hiss sound filled the entire room and could even be heard outside of the room (with the door open). It's weird that some people report hiss and others don't. Either not all of their speakers are made up to the same standard, or there's some very dirty power here (although I'd hope my power conditioner would fix that). But my other monitors have no issue here, and some other people are reporting the same issues as I had as well. So my guess is that not all of them use the same quality parts.
Love your film composing studio environment. I am still building my studio. Currently I have krk Subs 10.4 and now purchasing three G4 10-3 for (Left, Center & Right). I compose Gospel music. Much continued success.
Thanks! It's mostly a project studio for hiphop music though. I also have KRK S subs, I like them. Hope you'lll have more luck with the 10-3's than I did!
@@SirFreak To be honest the "Barefoot studio monitors" are the ultimate. At the moment out of my price range. Someday I'll have them and donate my krk monitors to someone who will need them.
Man, that sucks for with thee heavy price would think the pair b so premium. The digital EQ also the tweeter positioning are cool features. Well, I now will need to still search. I like the features maybe find them with some other brand.
I haven't really found a lot of 3-way monitors that are similarly priced. They usually are way more expensive. The only ones I know of are the Kali Audio IN-8 2nd Wave, and those probably won't go as deep in the subbass region as these KRKs. I'm interested to hear how those sound though, heard a lot of good stuff about them.
Good luck. Now, when you have USD $3500 and above for each such 3-way monitor -- your chances of finding a better one than the KRK RP10-3s are definitely enhanced.
@@SirFreak I bought a set of Kali IN-8 instead. With theses I am receiving a nose though out. I have them to the Output speaker jack to my PC. XLR to 3.5mm. it gts worse while playing Division 2. Even when playing Music though Pandora. I had thought I would not run into such an issue. After the many hiss reviews Still I get such interference.
@@OFFICIALAZURITEKING Audio jacks on motherboards are usually not of the same quality as with an external interface, so that might be the cause of the noise, I guess? Did you get the 2nd wave In-8's? Or the original version? The 2nd wave should have less self noise apparently.
As far as I've read online, the 8 inch version has less hiss than this one, but it might still have some. But I've never heard them myself, so don't take my word for it. If you can, I suggest going to a store with studio monitors in your area and listening to a whole bunch of them, including the krk 8 inch, so you can pick a monitor that you like the sound of.
@Sir Freak Great video! What did you switch to?? I have Yamaha HS10 w/ sub, but the output is pretty weak, especially for EDM music (which I produce). I was attracted to the 10-3 G4s since they were full range and maybe I wouldn't also need to get a sub? Any suggestion for a low noise "full range" solution for $1,000 USD.
Hey, thanks for your comment! I'm currently using a pair of Focal Shape 65s paired with two KRK 12s2 subs. Pretty happy with the sound I'm getting from this setup. I do use some room correction and a house curve though. The Rokit 10-3 monitors don't really need a sub, as they can go down to 26Hz. 1000$? That will be hard. The Rokit's kinda stand alone at this price point for full range monitors. There's no other company with a similarly priced fullrange studio monitor as far as I know (please prove me wrong :D). Perhaps you could try a pair of Kali IN-8 Second Wave monitors and pair them with your existing subwoofer? Or have a listen at the Focal Alpha Twin Evo? Or try the second hand market? In any case, try to listen before you buy. If you would get the rokit 10-3 G4, you could also use them as a second pair and check your mixes on them. For me they were kinda noisy, but you could turn them off when you don't use them? They're definitely a great monitor for EDM (if you don't mind the noise). But from what you wrote, I guess you like a high output volume, so the noise might be less noticeable then.
@@SirFreak thanks for the generous reply man!!! You rock!!! Focal would be fantastic… but I think too costly for me… Yes bass clarity is super important for what I do… I don’t always want it loud, but want the potential… it seems the 10-3-G4s only allocates 80W to the 10in sub… so pairing two ROKIT 7 G4 dedicated to mods and highs… with an S12.4 12in sub (also by KRK) will result in 220W dedicated to the sub… this will be roughly $1200… and hopefully means that noise problem won’t be an issue? 🤷♂️
@@jasonfnorth If what I heard is correct the rokit 7 should have less of this issue. But it's also perfectly fine to pair another kind of monitor with the rokit subs.
the hiss is with the balanced cable ???.......and put in their own plug ???...... what could be the cause ???.......(how can krk "afford" it ???.....tzplrrrrrr)
@@Kogaion78 There are people that say they don't have these issues, but there are also a lot of people who say they do. Perhaps there are multiple versions of these speakers out there, I don't know.
@@SirFreak this is very weird........I wouldn't let that happen........krk are behind with image and salling probably......it's like amd still doesn't support crosfire and make games and computers being behind nvidia.......weird..... these monitors could be very good cheap product not needing a subwoofer.........hmmmmm....... me dunno what to do.....I wanted to take these.......genelecs 8030d lets say need a sub and subs go to anothe thousand......buuuuhhhh..... ohh......and isn't pu or metal (alu) better tjan kevlar ???....... ....thx for reply anyway......
@@Kogaion78 You might want to listen to the "kali in-8 2nd wave" (not the first wave as those are also known to be hissy). I have not heard those before, but I heard some good things about them.
Some people claim to not have this issue, so I suppose there are perhaps a version of these that don't have the issue, but I don't know for sure. A place that sells studio monitors not that far away from me even completely stopped selling KRK because of issues like this. But yeah I really don't know. If KRK would be willing to send me a pair where the issue is fixed, I'd be happy to make another video about that, but I won't risk purchasing another pair just to find out :')
This is such a shame! I used to rock the original krk 8's when they first came out, and was very happy with them other than that hiss (and the exaggerated low-mids, but that was fixable). I've still got my pair, but haven used them since they broke only a few years after buying them (as they are very cheaply made outside of the drivers, especially the amp/crossover circuitry), and haven't got round to fixing them yet. I've been using Adam's TV8's for the last few years now and love them, but even being the biggest they offer in this line they don't go low enough. I was thinking about getting these KRKs as a second pair of monitors. I want something that is truly full range and three way, and don't want to really have a sub sitting on the floor, so these were ideal. I actually love the way KrKs sound for listening to music, and they are super detailed for the price so if it wasn't for the issues I mention above (that you have covered in this vid) I probably already would have a pair in my studio. It's sad that even after all this success the company has had, and all these revisions later, their amps still kind of suck. It lets down an otherwise really nice pair of speakers, that are super good value for money (I guess they have to do something to be able to sell them at the price they do, it's just a shame it effects their use in serious critical listening environments the way it does).
Damn right, if they come up with a next version where the issues are fixed, I'd gladly give them another shot, but they should really fix this issue. If I can hear the hiss from meters away, that's just too much.
DO you mean the whole KRK Rokit line has the same issue? I noticed you have a Rokit 5 and your video title is Rokit 10-3. Please clarify because I am currently using KRK Rokit 10-3.
I don't know. As far as I read online, this problem is much less pronounced on the smaller speakers in the G4 line-up. I don't own a Rokit 5, I only owned the Rokit 10-3 G4. The Rokit 5 G4 that you see for a few seconds in this video is from the promo video by KRK itself. I did not have footage to showcase the DSP, so I included that instead. Sorry if that was a little confusing.
In a similar budget range, I've heard some good reviews about the "Kali Audio’s IN-8 second wave" (make sure it's the second wave, because the first wave has a lot of noise issues as well). I have not heard them yet myself though. Probably won't go as deep as KRKs though.
I was considering upgrading from my pair of KRK Rokit 7 G4's, to the 10-3 G4's...but you saved me the trouble of doing so...thank you! Rather than paying considerably more for a downgrade with KRK....I have decided to upgrade to the Focal Evo 65's, in the future.
@@SirFreak I don't drive, I'm disabled, I'm low income and the nearest music store in relation to where I live, is 20 minutes away by car. That said, I have to rely on videos like this, to make a decision.
@@HighlandStudio91 I see, in that case I think it's hard to go wrong with Focal or Genelec. Haven't heard the EVO's yet, so if you get those, let me know how they sound!
@@SirFreak Things would go very wrong with Genelec(as they are too damn expensive...as a pair of 8010A's would be $700(USD) and then I would need a sub!)) Perhaps Genelecs are cheaper in your country, but astronomical in price...in the U.S.. I will definitely let you know about the Focal Evo's when I am ready to buy them.
@@HighlandStudio91 they are not cheap here either. However, they do fall in a similar price range as the 10-3s. You are right however when you mention the sub, because those monitors won't go as deep as the 10-3's. So it's perhaps not a fair comparison. But then again, these 10-3's kind of stand on their own. The EVO's also seem to have a sub in their range, and it even might be stereo? Perhaps worth checking out to give some low end to the monitors?
I was actually going to purchase KRK Rokit 5 G3 this evening. Now after seeing and watching this video am no longer interested. As I’ve been disappointed by Mackie studio monitors. Now Sir any recommendations?
Although I've never had the opportunity of hearing them myself, I heard the Kali In-8 Second Wave is pretty good. And if you have the budget, I can recommend the monitors that I'm using myself (Focal Shape 65). Also, not every KRK monitor has this much hiss, I heard the rokit 5 series might be better in this regard. But that doesn't mean they won't have any. If you have the opportunity, definitely try going to a shop where you can listen to a few different speakers. Buying speakers based on what other people recommend won't guarantee that YOU like their sound.
@@SirFreakThanks a lot!! Am actually starting music production because am interested. Began with GarageBand 🎸 now am thinking of expanding cause of the feedbacks i get from different people in my area. That’s why am not sleeping. Mackies monitors didn’t do me well till i smashed them myself because of the left and right problem. I got like around 250-350$ looking for better monitors. I appreciate your time Sir!!!
Damn, sucks to hear that. I didn't know the G2 also had this hiss issue, thanks for letting me know. I was considering buying one of the older versions.
My classic 7 that i just purchased has terrible buzzing sound ,how i fix that ? i ve just remove the ground pin from electricity extension cable socket and problem gone .....note that i am using RCA conection and i am plannig to upgrade to external soundcard like focusrite......hmm but my pc alredy has 24bit 192 000 hz like that focusrite , i am not sure what tot do !!!
I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you still have the buzzing now or not? If you do, RCA could cause issues because it's an unshielded connection. If you disconnect the rca cable from the monitor and the noise is gone, then there's a good chance that this is the problem. If it doesn't go away, it's probably the monitor itself.
@@SirFreak The hiss is there with or without the rca cable but before i removed the ground from the power outlet was a big buzzing sound ,like i could hear the pc inside the speakers ....
@@smamas114 The buzz was probably a ground loop. I guess the hiss will be from the monitor itself then. Not really sure how you could fix that tbh. I'm very happy with my 12 inch subs. Bigger ones can usually hit lower notes so if you have room for those, I'd say go for it. But do realize that they do take some room, and subwoofer placement isn't always straightforward. I have mines in a different place then where I was going to set them up as well, just because the sound wasn't good where I originally planned to put them.
I'm rocking Focal Shape 65s with two subs right now and I'm quite happy with them. Hope you will be as well! If you're able to, I suggest that you go to a place in your neighbourhood where you can listen to them before you buy. Even better if you can listen to a bunch of monitors and pick one that you think sounds best! Buying monitors without ever hearing them is a little hit-or-miss. If you're unable to do that, try to buy from a place with a good return policy.
@@SirFreak yes the shapes twins are on my list the seem best in class at price from what I've read.sadly there sold out in my country. I agree I will be auditioning thoroughly .
Thanks for your comment. Bookshelf speakers are usually more for enjoyment, and might trade in accuracy for a more pleasurable sound. Studio monitors usually aim to do the opposite and are made for critical listening, they should be accurate and reveal things that might sound less pleasurable.
Maybe shop around for Focal, Adam, Dynaudio, Genelec, Neumann, etc. 3-ways instead. Less self-noise with those, possibly. Of course, those start at €/$ 3500 apiece. And go up from there.
I don't think anything can beat this sound quality at this price. But the noisy tweeter is a real problem. Not that big of a problem, but still a problem. The perfect solution for the 2.1 system is if you can listen to what you created on a real 3-way system next to it. There is no cheaper and better stuff for listening to music.
Kali iN-8 they seem almost similar just with a 8 inch cone instead of 10 & they might sound better I haven’t used either but I was looking at these two but I hear about a hiss in both
@@ConfidenZe The Kali iN-8 is worse than the two-way Kali, not a competitor to the KRK 10-3. If you buy Kali, go for the two-way ones, they sound better than the three-speaker versions.
You saved me $800.00 LOL. Thank you! HISS would DRIVE ME NUTS. Most likely will be in a small room. Last think I want is line noise! Bag that! What a shame. Guess HS8's again. Was hoping for a three way speaker, but nothing else comes in under 1k for a pair. Back to searching, or just give up and buy what I use to have.
Glad I could save you a couple of bucks :) Sadly, I have not found a good 3-way studio monitor below 1000€ a pair. I heard some good things about the "Kali IN-8 Second Wave", but I have not yet heard them, so can't say how good/bad they sound.
I'm searching for a budget 3way monitor too. Currently I got my eyes on swissonic X8 and Kali audio In8 V2. Everyone is reporting the Kali's have zero noise so I'm thinking about getting them. There is one User that reviewd the swissonic and he reported noise as well , but that's just one person IDK if I should trust him. BUt I think the Kali in8s V2 is a safe bet.
@@radoslavdragnev8797 Haven't heard either of them. Would like to though. But I heard a lot of good things about the Kali IN8 V2. Really curious about the swissonic monitors though
@radoslavdragnev8797 Despite all said here, I took a risk on krk 10 3 😁 You know what? I freak n love them!!!! Hiss thing turns out to be not an issue at all. Unless it is dead quiet, you most likely won't notice. The reasoning? Extensive research and seeing that nothing was even close in price for studio 3 way. I don't want to give a review here, but I am happy. I left my original comment as most people, you dig. You seek out many opinions, and finally make the best decision for you, not others. Good luck in your search. 12" krk sub is next on the list. 😉
It sucks that you also had these issues. It's weird that some claim they don't though. But I'm glad I wasn't the only one experiencing this, because some people don't seem to believe what I say here. In any case, KRK should have done better on these. I would have gladly paid a little more if they didn't have that hiss.
I think everyone's sensitivity to it varies. Kali Audio took a lot of heat for hiss in their first generation of products. They made a concerted effort to reduce the noise significantly in the second generation. I returned the Kali IN-8 (v1) monitors that I had too. My old PreSonus Eris E8 speakers hiss as well but they are the quietest of the 3 I've had in my possession. I was using the KRK's in my living room as part of my entertainment system, sat on top of a pair of 15" powered subwoofers. Even at 6-10' away I could hear them hissing at night when the house was quiet. They absolutely rocked the house otherwise. If KRK makes improvements in the future I will revisit them.
As of February 2023, these monitors have been out for FOUR YEARS. So there must be plenty of reviews on them. I am suspecting KRK will come out with a Generation 5 version soon. Or else retire this 3-way RP10-3s of theirs entirely. They had 4 years to "work out" the hiss issue. Apparently they did not. If you go with a Class-G, Class-H, or Class-AB amplifier in your monitors, you will likely not have hiss/self-noise, or only very little. There is nothing worse then an "economy" Class-D amp and unprotected, unshaded or poorly shaded internal power supply. BTW, RP10-3 Gen 3 is now only available used, those ones have Class-AB amps and are therefore 4 kilogram heavier. No hiss with those, I believe. Adam Audio's new X-series 3-ways hit a perfect balance: Class-D for MF and LF, Class-AB amping for HPF. Purrfect.
Weirdly enough I could find some reviews, but none of them mentioned any hiss.. Well at least the volume on the 10-3 G3 does not seem to run all the way open, so you could lower any hiss you might get by lowering the volume, I guess. But as you noticed in another comment, someone was also mentioning hiss with the G3. I switched to Focal monitors now, those have AB amps, and they are dead silent, even though they also run all the way open (there's no volume control).
@@SirFreak The Focals are total freakshows with the lack of a simple trim knob on them. Their new Alpha EVOs are all Class-D amped, BTW. Instantly forgettable.
i had to power mine on a UPS to segregate them from the "noisy" electrical in my house (i.e. refrigerator compressor etc.) Cleaned them up perfectly - was about to return as well.
I have also read that the built-in power supply is inadequate at properly filtering electrical noise. This confirms it. I guess my power conditioner must not have been able to cure that as well, so it might not have been the best quality power conditioner.
I don't have any issues with my current monitors. Also, a power conditioner did not improve anything. And I've heard several other people who had the same issue with these monitors. So I'm pretty sure the monitors are to blame.
Thanks! I've used the Yamaha HS8 at a friends studio a couple of times, and it is a pretty good production monitor. It does lack a bit of detail for mixing though. But then again, I've heard great mixes come from a studio that only has these, so if you know them well enough it doesn't always matter, I guess.
Quite possible. I've seen some other people having this issue as well though. But then again, it also seems some don't. Perhaps manufacturing tolerances are not that strict or something. Or they fixed it in newer sets, idk..
@@SirFreak I just got a set of Rokit 7. They do hiss. But, it is a typical class-D hiss with a cheap output filter. It's not any interference. All amps run at full tilt and are adjusted by adjusting the input, after setting the sensitivity. From 3 feet away, where I have them temp. placed, I can't hear the hiss. The monitors sound excellence, very balanced, great bass and accurate, tweets are very accurate. Good thing too is that you can EQ down, if needed, instead of up. All genres sound great. I don't use the EQ on the KRK; I use my own. Running them through/from an ID14.
Suggested possible solutions to reduce KRK RP10-3 hiss/self noise. 1. Bypass the DC-to-AC power supply transformer, bypass the Class-D PWM amplifiers, maybe even bypass the twin crossovers. So, use them as passive monitors. 2. Remove the power supply from the speaker cabinet and use it in a Faraday Cage external to the monitor. 3. Remove the triple amplifiers from the speaker cabinet and use them in separate Faraday Cages external to the monitor. 4. Remove the twin crossover circuit boards from the speaker cabinet and use them in yet another separate Faraday Cage excternal to the monitor. Hopefully if you do some or all of this, your idle/self-noise will be greatly reduced, or even totally eliminated. Last hope: switch to headphones.
I'd have to sharpen up my electric knowledge a bit to start embarking on such a project. Wasn't there some other UA-camr trying to do this with these monitors? Anyway, I'm quite happy with my current setup for now.
Yeah buy active speakers and just remove the amps out of them , sounds like a solution . KRK needs to address this stuff man its been like this for years with their gear , i still own a pair of the original rokit 6 first gen and they hiss like a bitch but its not as nasty as that one its more of a lower hiss that you kind of forget its there after a while at low volumes . I've heard the hiss from the rp10s and it sounds much higher frequency and almost ear piercing at times. Very disappointing .
Nice review, it almost 100% mirrors my own experience of using these monitors. Thanks by the way for using my Sound Demo in your video, it's appreciated!
I do have one more issue to bring up about the 10-3 G4s: When the frequency of the music reaches a certain low threshold below ~30Hz, the drivers & amp seem to have a very difficult time controlling the excursion, resulting in excessive bass driver movement that might make you think the speaker may cause damage to itself. I've tried doing some more "scientific" testing on them, and KRK says they can reproduce 26Hz, whereas my own testing leads me to believe that they can hit those frequencies but with "too much" driver excursion, which severely limits the SPL capability at those low frequencies. If you do try this (and intend to use them for such things as HipHop/Rap Beats), be aware that these speakers bottom out very easily with super deep bass and high playback volumes.
Thanks! Playing them mostly at lower levels , I never quite noticed this. Thanks for letting everyone know!
Why on earth are you trying to even replicate 26hz through a 10 inch woofer. Even very heavy low frequency dance music nobody ever uses bass lower than 32hz or so. A lot of sound engineers with big rigs will high pass their subs at 35hz or so with a steep roll off. Some even higher about 38hz to save their drivers. Anything below that is just wasted amp energy as it's barely audible it's just trouser flapping air movement and prevents good cone control from the amp, which in turn will muddy the sound.
@@gr1mr3apa15 if you use small passive speakers at home and music presents a 26hz signal, the speakers will receive it. how it handles it depends on the reflex design etc. but if krk specs an active monitor to 26hz with what appears to be a long throw woofer it should be able to handle atleast some of it. if it doesnt then redesign the speaker.
TBH, the reason most monitor manufacturers don't have bass extension that low is precisely because of that. To produce really low frequencies the speaker needs to move a ton more. If a speaker is designed to go that low, it should handle it fine and not be damaging, the only negative is it will start to distort the accuracy of the mids if the same speaker is trying to handle that freq range too, but this is why these are three-way, and not two-way. If you ever watch a big club sub driver moving ... they can come multiple inches out of the housing, and this is perfectly fine, as they are designed to do this. My old krk 8's used to have real far travel, but the drivers themselves were bulletproof (literally, they are made out of Kevlar lol). Only the amps let them down imho, but that's a different conversation.
What I have found with KRKs is they often will have the low end boosted by design so the monitors are pleasing to listen to music on, and to truly get close to a flat response for critical listening, you'll need correction software. What this means is the bass driver/cab/dsp will natively be boosting and producing more bass than the source material actually has in it, and this can often lead to sloppy, slow bass response (because there really shouldn't be that much low end in what you are playing back). I bet if you use something like sonar works and set it to extended bass mode so it's also correcting the low end right the way down, it'll tighten up the monitor's low end response a butt load. They still will probably move a ton, but as I've stated, they are designed to do so, they just should have a much tighter response.
Your assessment is absolutely correct. I hoped that KRK would have fixed this issue in this version of the 10-3s. I have a pair of 10-3 G3s that do the same exact thing. I have tried everything to reduce the hiss but to no avail. I love the sound that comes out of these and so does everyone else that comes in the studio. I don't really mix with them, but I do use them on a daily basis even with the annoying hiss.
Thanks for your comment. Damn, I did not know that the G3 also had these issues.. I thought those might have been better since they had class AB amps.
If Gen 3 RP10-3s with Class-AB amping also have this hiss/self-noise, then it is definitely the internal power supply and/or crossover circuitry that gives that out. Not the amps. Strange.
@@frankfarago2825 Could be possible. I don't know too much about electronics, so I can't tell. Otherwise I probably would have opened them up and tried to fix it myself.
I returned mine because of the hiss as well.
@@mwahlert Really sad that they allow this to pass quality assurance
Good... Thanks! And so I removed any doubt about the choice of monitors. I have Kali IN-8 second wave and I was wondering if the KRK Rokit 10-3 G4 would be better since they are about the same price!
Haven't been able to hear a pair of the second wave kali's, but I heard some good things about them!
I had ordered these G4's before I saw your video so I was quite apprehensive but I can say my pair are totally quiet even with single ended connections ( used with RCA to XLR adaptor). Oddly enough I was thinking that maybe KRK had modified their new production but the dates of supply are on the outer boxes, one was 2021 and the other 2019 but no noise from either.
Glad to hear you don't have any issues at your end! Good luck with them!
Just a question, are you on 230v or 120v? Perhaps that has some impact, idk, just guessing?
@@SirFreak 230V
@@ohyesitsme Hmmm me too, so that won't be it. Some people seem to have it, other don't, weird. I definitely thought a power conditioner would have fixed it for me, but sadly it didn't.
@@SirFreak If you have any of those switched power supplies (wall wart) close by then these can cause humming
@@ohyesitsme I did not have any of those close, nor did I have any humming, just loud hiss. And even when connecting them to an outlet on the other side of the building, I heard the same hiss. I have some other speaker systems and none of those have this kind of hiss. My best guess is that not all KRK's power converters are made to the same standard?
turning off some light who have led driver will end this issue
Thanks for letting us know. Might be worth a try for people having this issue.
Worried about ordering these, self noise is common in affordable monitors, my Rokit 8 G4, Focal Alpha 65 Evo and Adam T8V have all had somewhat noticeable self noise, so I expect some, but I'm curious to see just how bad it will be with the pair I get.. I really want a 3-way, but I'm not interested in Dynaudio, so the other option is Adam A8H's which are only a few hundred less than Barefoot Footprint02's.. Kali IN-8 V2 are cool but I don't love the coaxial design, and dip switch tuning is annoying. I wish Adam or Focal would make 3-way monitors in their T and Alpha series!!
I also have a little self-noise in my little yamahas, but the rokits had WAY more self-noise. Sadly, at a lower price point, there are not a lot of options for 3-ways. Recently encountered the Swissonic X8 online though, but having never heard them, I cannot speak about their quality. Interested to hear how they sound though. Perhaps an option you might consider.
@@SirFreak You can only get the Swissonic from Thomann Music in Germany. It is their house brand, made in China, of course. That's not for everybody. For example, they don't ship to Russia anymore. They do ship to the USA, but the shipping cost per monitor would be over USD $200. And what if you need to return them of have them fixed? Can be a pretty expensice racket. Also, the X8 only has the 8-inch LF woofer. The KRK has a much larger 10-incher. Huge diff. Usually 3-way studio monitors with 9-inch, 9-5-inch, 10-inch woofers start at $3500 and quickly go up from that. There are some reviews out on the Thomann-Swissonic X8 3-ways, and nobody is complaining about hiss or rself-noise with them. Here in Europe, I can order them with free shippiong, so that part is cool.
@@frankfarago2825 yeah, they probably won't go down to 26hz like the KRKs...
Get a bank loan and get a pair of ATC's :)
@@JonnyParker- I wish haha. With how much I earn from music now, that doesn't seem like a wise investement yet.
yes that hiss is driving me crazy i got krk 8... this is happening to all the speakers...
Sucks to hear that... I was told the KRK8 had less issues with hiss, but I guess that might not be correct then... If you can still exchange them, I would try to find a monitor with less hiss.
I have a pair of 5-G4s and I don't have noise, apparently not all units seem to have this problem. I believe that there is an electronic component of the power source that does not work correctly in its range, like a capacitor that functions as a filter responsible for the high switching frequency.
I like to have these 10-3s, but my room is small for them.
It's like you say, it's weird. Some people seem to be reporting these issues to me as well, some people don't.
I think it is the noisy, unshielded universal switching power supply.
I bought a pair of these monitors last month. I am a video editor and for me the KRK Rokit 10-3 G4 monitors are perfect. Because are also very good (for my taste) when I listen to my music. The sound comes from my macbook pro (usb C), to my Scarlett Solo and from here, to the monitors. The cables are balanced. I use the Music app, from Apple and yes, with some old songs the noise is present, but I think it’s normal. When the monitors are powered on, I don’t hear any hiss or noise, I tried with the volume at maximum. Thank you for your review; I will come back after when I will try to record some voiceovers, I’m curious if the hiss/noise is present.
P.S.: Sorry for my English
Hey, great to hear that you're happy with them! They are definitely good sounding monitors.
@@SirFreakmy krk rockit 5s with 1/4 cables also has the noise. Changed cables to XLR and the noise was gone.
@@spreadwinner yeah cables can sometimes be a problem. But in my case, even with no cables connected there was a lot of hiss
Zero hiss here.
Nice to see this review, I was very curious about these monitors. I wish you had an audio sample of the hiss with the mic at 1m and monitors off, then monitors on to hear the level of noise compared to the ambient at 1m.
Thanks for your message. Sadly I didn't think about doing that, and I no longer have them anymore. The only video I have demonstrating the hiss is one that I sent to a friend with my mobile phone on messenger. One part was without music playing, and one was with music playing silently (where you can still hear the hiss). I'm not sure if the recording with my phone fully captures the experience, but I'm going to upload it and link it over here so you can at least have an idea.
Here's the 2 videos I sent to my friend using messenger. You might need to turn up your volume a little bit. First nothing is playing, then some music is playing silently.
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@@SirFreak Thanks for the effort but to be honest the only way to hear the difference remotely is if you have a comparison of monitors on and monitors off. Now it's really impossible to tell if the hiss is the inherent noise of the mobile phone mic or the speakers. But the hiss is indeed very prominent in this recording so it's either the monitor or the mobile phone to blame.
@@spiroszaharakis2648 I'm pretty sure that my phone mic is indeed noisy as well. But I must say that the part where the music was playing silently gave me a somewhat similar experience here in my room, when I was playing the music silently. So I hope that gives you some idea. Sorry I cannot help you more.
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I run these daily, you can easily get rid of the noise with the Behringer MicroHD HD400. It's a common problem with ground loops and dirty power, and studio monitors (my Yamahas has the same problem in my room).. you're driving some massive amps there, so you could've considered that before telling all these people that it's an unsolvable problem XD. I paid less than 20 bucks for a solution ;) (I also originally bought it for my HS8s.. and fixed the problem there as well).
Hey, thanks for your comment. As I said in the video, even with no audio cables connected and connected to the grid trough a power conditioner, the issue still persisted here. In my case it was not noise or hum coming from the audio cables/interface, so I don't think a box like that Behringer could have solved the issue for me. Thanks for letting us know this though, it might help in some cases. Also, I never said this was an unfixable problem. I just could not solve it. I switched to other monitors and those are dead silent in my studio.
I have the rp10 g3 I don't find them to be to noisy..in terms of hiss..just like any other monitor
Glad you don't seem to have any issues with them!
What's a good budget option that doesn't have this issue?
I heard some good things about the "Kali IN-8 Second Wave" (not the first!). But haven't had a chance to audition them myself.
I really wish there were more camera angle changes in this video. All jokes aside, thank you for the upload, I want these monitors soo bad.
I'm still kind of figuring out making videos :') thanks for watching!
Very helpful. Thank you
Thank you for watching!
nice review, im considering these in my livingroom for more "complex" psytrance with many layers, somethimes with poor production quality, would you recomend? i think they are very cheap for a active 3 way system with no need for external sub
If it's just as a party system or for casual listening, these could be good. You'll probably hear the poor production quality issues on them as well. But just know that you could have quite a bit of hiss from them. I'd definitely try to keep some distance from them when listening.
This is good to know before to buy them. Do you know if KRK already fixed the issue ? Thanks for your video
No idea, they never reached out to me. Some people don't seem to have the issue, so it's possible. Can't say for sure
I have 10-3 G3’s and I never noticed a hiss until relatively recently. Thinking it may be noise generated by something else recently added on the same circuit, but maybe they alway did it 🤷♂️
It's possible. Or degrading components over time. I saw a video somewhere about older KRK monitors that had some kind of black gunk on the circuit boards, and over time the gunk became conductive.
From what I heard the G3's should have less issues with hiss, because those still use AB amps, but I've never heard a G3, so I cannot confirm this. And someone else who reacted to my video, who has the G3 as well, was also mentioning hiss. So I don't know in how far that info was correct..
I got some second hand and they're phenomenal, smoke my lp8s yes there's a little hiss if you stick your face in front of them but these are not for near field anyway, of you want near fields get some Adams or I like my rcf's a ton the detail and image is nuts
Sadly, with the pair I had, the noise was obnoxiously loud, clearly audible over the music, even at meters away. It's weird to me that some people don't seem to have this issue. Perhaps they made a revision, or not all of those speakers are made to the same standard. But glad to hear that you don't seem to have this issue!
Thx for being honest, hissing amps and mixing is a complete non-starter and fail by krk management. Which focal did you go to solo6b ?
I'm using the Focal Shape 65's now. While the Solo6b is regarded as being a better monitor, I listened to both those monitors at the shop and just liked the Focal Shapes more. They just sounded more natural to me. But that might just be my personal preference.
i owned a pair of KRK 6 gen 3 and i had to sell them because of electrical interference, i could hear my hard drive's activity in the speakers even tho it was really far away. i ended up using some Hi-Fi Technics speakers in my office instead until i got the money to spend on other studio monitors and i ended with KEF LS50, they're not studio monitors but they actually sound very neutral and flat, with nicely detailed highs that don't get me tired.
Great that you found a worthy replacement! A lot of hifi-systems are now also going more flat, because there are a lot of people that want to hear the sound as it was originally intended.
I think they desgined for mid field and u just have them to close to u. I own a pair to use as home speakers, they stay beside tv and i cannot hear the hiss but if i will come closer i can
I definitely agree that I had them quite close for them being midfields. However, the hiss sound filled the entire room and could even be heard outside of the room (with the door open). It's weird that some people report hiss and others don't. Either not all of their speakers are made up to the same standard, or there's some very dirty power here (although I'd hope my power conditioner would fix that). But my other monitors have no issue here, and some other people are reporting the same issues as I had as well. So my guess is that not all of them use the same quality parts.
Love your film composing studio environment. I am still building my studio. Currently I have krk Subs 10.4 and now purchasing three G4 10-3 for (Left, Center & Right). I compose Gospel music. Much continued success.
Thanks! It's mostly a project studio for hiphop music though. I also have KRK S subs, I like them. Hope you'lll have more luck with the 10-3's than I did!
@@SirFreak To be honest the "Barefoot studio monitors" are the ultimate. At the moment out of my price range. Someday I'll have them and donate my krk monitors to someone who will need them.
@@gospelpopmusic I've never had the opportunity to listen to barefoot speakers, but I've heard good things about them. That's generous of you!
Man, that sucks for with thee heavy price would think the pair b so premium. The digital EQ also the tweeter positioning are cool features. Well, I now will need to still search. I like the features maybe find them with some other brand.
I haven't really found a lot of 3-way monitors that are similarly priced. They usually are way more expensive. The only ones I know of are the Kali Audio IN-8 2nd Wave, and those probably won't go as deep in the subbass region as these KRKs. I'm interested to hear how those sound though, heard a lot of good stuff about them.
Good luck. Now, when you have USD $3500 and above for each such 3-way monitor -- your chances of finding a better one than the KRK RP10-3s are definitely enhanced.
@@SirFreak I bought a set of Kali IN-8 instead. With theses I am receiving a nose though out. I have them to the Output speaker jack to my PC. XLR to 3.5mm. it gts worse while playing Division 2. Even when playing Music though Pandora. I had thought I would not run into such an issue. After the many hiss reviews Still I get such interference.
@@OFFICIALAZURITEKING Audio jacks on motherboards are usually not of the same quality as with an external interface, so that might be the cause of the noise, I guess? Did you get the 2nd wave In-8's? Or the original version? The 2nd wave should have less self noise apparently.
@@OFFICIALAZURITEKING Do you have anything else to connect it to, to see if that also gives interference?
The krk 8" has the same problem? Does anybondy can tell me? Because I'm about to buy it!
As far as I've read online, the 8 inch version has less hiss than this one, but it might still have some. But I've never heard them myself, so don't take my word for it.
If you can, I suggest going to a store with studio monitors in your area and listening to a whole bunch of them, including the krk 8 inch, so you can pick a monitor that you like the sound of.
I'm talking about the G4 8 inch of course
It's very nice speakers
@Sir Freak Great video! What did you switch to?? I have Yamaha HS10 w/ sub, but the output is pretty weak, especially for EDM music (which I produce). I was attracted to the 10-3 G4s since they were full range and maybe I wouldn't also need to get a sub? Any suggestion for a low noise "full range" solution for $1,000 USD.
Hey, thanks for your comment! I'm currently using a pair of Focal Shape 65s paired with two KRK 12s2 subs. Pretty happy with the sound I'm getting from this setup. I do use some room correction and a house curve though.
The Rokit 10-3 monitors don't really need a sub, as they can go down to 26Hz.
1000$? That will be hard. The Rokit's kinda stand alone at this price point for full range monitors. There's no other company with a similarly priced fullrange studio monitor as far as I know (please prove me wrong :D).
Perhaps you could try a pair of Kali IN-8 Second Wave monitors and pair them with your existing subwoofer? Or have a listen at the Focal Alpha Twin Evo? Or try the second hand market? In any case, try to listen before you buy.
If you would get the rokit 10-3 G4, you could also use them as a second pair and check your mixes on them. For me they were kinda noisy, but you could turn them off when you don't use them? They're definitely a great monitor for EDM (if you don't mind the noise). But from what you wrote, I guess you like a high output volume, so the noise might be less noticeable then.
@@SirFreak thanks for the generous reply man!!! You rock!!! Focal would be fantastic… but I think too costly for me… Yes bass clarity is super important for what I do… I don’t always want it loud, but want the potential… it seems the 10-3-G4s only allocates 80W to the 10in sub… so pairing two ROKIT 7 G4 dedicated to mods and highs… with an S12.4 12in sub (also by KRK) will result in 220W dedicated to the sub… this will be roughly $1200… and hopefully means that noise problem won’t be an issue? 🤷♂️
@@jasonfnorth If what I heard is correct the rokit 7 should have less of this issue. But it's also perfectly fine to pair another kind of monitor with the rokit subs.
the hiss is with the balanced cable ???.......and put in their own plug ???......
what could be the cause ???.......(how can krk "afford" it ???.....tzplrrrrrr)
Yes, with balanced XLR. But even with no audio cable plugged in, there was hiss.
@@SirFreak
and this happ with all ???......nobody hit a good pair ???.....
is this normal with all speakers/monitors ???.....
@@Kogaion78 There are people that say they don't have these issues, but there are also a lot of people who say they do. Perhaps there are multiple versions of these speakers out there, I don't know.
@@SirFreak
this is very weird........I wouldn't let that happen........krk are behind with image and salling probably......it's like amd still doesn't support crosfire and make games and computers being behind nvidia.......weird.....
these monitors could be very good cheap product not needing a subwoofer.........hmmmmm.......
me dunno what to do.....I wanted to take these.......genelecs 8030d lets say need a sub and subs go to anothe thousand......buuuuhhhh.....
ohh......and isn't pu or metal (alu) better tjan kevlar ???.......
....thx for reply anyway......
@@Kogaion78 You might want to listen to the "kali in-8 2nd wave" (not the first wave as those are also known to be hissy). I have not heard those before, but I heard some good things about them.
Did they fix this, I heard not all of them will exhibit this issue.
Some people claim to not have this issue, so I suppose there are perhaps a version of these that don't have the issue, but I don't know for sure. A place that sells studio monitors not that far away from me even completely stopped selling KRK because of issues like this.
But yeah I really don't know. If KRK would be willing to send me a pair where the issue is fixed, I'd be happy to make another video about that, but I won't risk purchasing another pair just to find out :')
This is such a shame! I used to rock the original krk 8's when they first came out, and was very happy with them other than that hiss (and the exaggerated low-mids, but that was fixable). I've still got my pair, but haven used them since they broke only a few years after buying them (as they are very cheaply made outside of the drivers, especially the amp/crossover circuitry), and haven't got round to fixing them yet.
I've been using Adam's TV8's for the last few years now and love them, but even being the biggest they offer in this line they don't go low enough. I was thinking about getting these KRKs as a second pair of monitors. I want something that is truly full range and three way, and don't want to really have a sub sitting on the floor, so these were ideal. I actually love the way KrKs sound for listening to music, and they are super detailed for the price so if it wasn't for the issues I mention above (that you have covered in this vid) I probably already would have a pair in my studio.
It's sad that even after all this success the company has had, and all these revisions later, their amps still kind of suck. It lets down an otherwise really nice pair of speakers, that are super good value for money (I guess they have to do something to be able to sell them at the price they do, it's just a shame it effects their use in serious critical listening environments the way it does).
Damn right, if they come up with a next version where the issues are fixed, I'd gladly give them another shot, but they should really fix this issue. If I can hear the hiss from meters away, that's just too much.
DO you mean the whole KRK Rokit line has the same issue? I noticed you have a Rokit 5 and your video title is Rokit 10-3. Please clarify because I am currently using KRK Rokit 10-3.
I don't know. As far as I read online, this problem is much less pronounced on the smaller speakers in the G4 line-up.
I don't own a Rokit 5, I only owned the Rokit 10-3 G4.
The Rokit 5 G4 that you see for a few seconds in this video is from the promo video by KRK itself. I did not have footage to showcase the DSP, so I included that instead. Sorry if that was a little confusing.
Are there any alternatives for a 3-way powered speaker? I currently have some rather cheap AudioEngine A5+ speakers, and i wanted to upgrade them.
In a similar budget range, I've heard some good reviews about the "Kali Audio’s IN-8 second wave" (make sure it's the second wave, because the first wave has a lot of noise issues as well). I have not heard them yet myself though.
Probably won't go as deep as KRKs though.
@@SirFreak i have a subwoofer already. I just cant stand the hiss. Yeah ive seen those recommended too. Thanks.
@@The_Noticer. If you have a sub those will probably be a nice combo :)
I was considering upgrading from my pair of KRK Rokit 7 G4's, to the 10-3 G4's...but you saved me the trouble of doing so...thank you! Rather than paying considerably more for a downgrade with KRK....I have decided to upgrade to the Focal Evo 65's, in the future.
In any case, whatever you're buying, always try to hear them upfront, if possible. That's the best advice I can give.
@@SirFreak I don't drive, I'm disabled, I'm low income and the nearest music store in relation to where I live, is 20 minutes away by car. That said, I have to rely on videos like this, to make a decision.
@@HighlandStudio91 I see, in that case I think it's hard to go wrong with Focal or Genelec. Haven't heard the EVO's yet, so if you get those, let me know how they sound!
@@SirFreak Things would go very wrong with Genelec(as they are too damn expensive...as a pair of 8010A's would be $700(USD) and then I would need a sub!)) Perhaps Genelecs are cheaper in your country, but astronomical in price...in the U.S.. I will definitely let you know about the Focal Evo's when I am ready to buy them.
@@HighlandStudio91 they are not cheap here either. However, they do fall in a similar price range as the 10-3s. You are right however when you mention the sub, because those monitors won't go as deep as the 10-3's. So it's perhaps not a fair comparison. But then again, these 10-3's kind of stand on their own.
The EVO's also seem to have a sub in their range, and it even might be stereo? Perhaps worth checking out to give some low end to the monitors?
I was actually going to purchase KRK Rokit 5 G3 this evening. Now after seeing and watching this video am no longer interested. As I’ve been disappointed by Mackie studio monitors. Now Sir any recommendations?
Although I've never had the opportunity of hearing them myself, I heard the Kali In-8 Second Wave is pretty good. And if you have the budget, I can recommend the monitors that I'm using myself (Focal Shape 65).
Also, not every KRK monitor has this much hiss, I heard the rokit 5 series might be better in this regard. But that doesn't mean they won't have any.
If you have the opportunity, definitely try going to a shop where you can listen to a few different speakers. Buying speakers based on what other people recommend won't guarantee that YOU like their sound.
@@SirFreakThanks a lot!! Am actually starting music production because am interested. Began with GarageBand 🎸 now am thinking of expanding cause of the feedbacks i get from different people in my area. That’s why am not sleeping. Mackies monitors didn’t do me well till i smashed them myself because of the left and right problem.
I got like around 250-350$ looking for better monitors.
I appreciate your time Sir!!!
If you want to boost the mids and cut the highs then lower the bass and lower highs even more 👍
I have KRK.10-3 G2, and decided to upgrade to G4, specifically because of the hiss. To my surprise, G4 was also noisy, pretty much the same as my G2.
Damn, sucks to hear that. I didn't know the G2 also had this hiss issue, thanks for letting me know. I was considering buying one of the older versions.
Differences on sound?
@@TommasoOlivotti not much. Pretty similar.
thanks
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Please guys go and listen to it first before making any call. Hearings hissing from more than 1 meter away is hard to believe for me.
Well I was quite surprised as well that monitors at this price point had that much hiss. But it's not just 1m, it was audible from further as well.
Same 4 me with the hiss. Bought them new and one just broke while listening :D waiting for g5 now
Wow :o sucks to hear that
My classic 7 that i just purchased has terrible buzzing sound ,how i fix that ? i ve just remove the ground pin from electricity extension cable socket and problem gone .....note that i am using RCA conection and i am plannig to upgrade to external soundcard like focusrite......hmm but my pc alredy has 24bit 192 000 hz like that focusrite , i am not sure what tot do !!!
I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you still have the buzzing now or not? If you do, RCA could cause issues because it's an unshielded connection. If you disconnect the rca cable from the monitor and the noise is gone, then there's a good chance that this is the problem. If it doesn't go away, it's probably the monitor itself.
@@SirFreak The hiss is there with or without the rca cable but before i removed the ground from the power outlet was a big buzzing sound ,like i could hear the pc inside the speakers ....
@@SirFreak Off topic........Do you think should i get the 12" krk sub or 10" for the classic 7 ?
@@smamas114 The buzz was probably a ground loop. I guess the hiss will be from the monitor itself then. Not really sure how you could fix that tbh.
I'm very happy with my 12 inch subs. Bigger ones can usually hit lower notes so if you have room for those, I'd say go for it. But do realize that they do take some room, and subwoofer placement isn't always straightforward. I have mines in a different place then where I was going to set them up as well, just because the sound wasn't good where I originally planned to put them.
I've been looking at theses krks among others. I think I'm going with the focal evo 65 with the sub one
I'm rocking Focal Shape 65s with two subs right now and I'm quite happy with them. Hope you will be as well!
If you're able to, I suggest that you go to a place in your neighbourhood where you can listen to them before you buy. Even better if you can listen to a bunch of monitors and pick one that you think sounds best! Buying monitors without ever hearing them is a little hit-or-miss.
If you're unable to do that, try to buy from a place with a good return policy.
@@SirFreak yes the shapes twins are on my list the seem best in class at price from what I've read.sadly there sold out in my country. I agree I will be auditioning thoroughly .
I suggest you audition the Evo before you buy, they are pretty harsh at upper mids-lower treble.
I'm very interested to hear the Evo's myself.
That hiss is way too much that would really irritate me so much. What is the difference between studio monitors and bookshelf speakers?
Good review.
Thanks for your comment. Bookshelf speakers are usually more for enjoyment, and might trade in accuracy for a more pleasurable sound. Studio monitors usually aim to do the opposite and are made for critical listening, they should be accurate and reveal things that might sound less pleasurable.
Maybe shop around for Focal, Adam, Dynaudio, Genelec, Neumann, etc. 3-ways instead. Less self-noise with those, possibly. Of course, those start at €/$ 3500 apiece. And go up from there.
If my budget ever allows it I would love to take a look at that. For now my 2.2 setup will need to do.
does anyone know what subwoofer would be good with yamaha hs8 monitors?
The Yamaha HS8S is probably a good bet. But any active studio subwoofer should do the trick.
@@SirFreak thsnks
I don't think anything can beat this sound quality at this price. But the noisy tweeter is a real problem. Not that big of a problem, but still a problem.
The perfect solution for the 2.1 system is if you can listen to what you created on a real 3-way system next to it. There is no cheaper and better stuff for listening to music.
Agreed! Big speaker sound on a small budget.
Kali iN-8 they seem almost similar just with a 8 inch cone instead of 10 & they might sound better I haven’t used either but I was looking at these two but I hear about a hiss in both
@@ConfidenZe The Kali iN-8 is worse than the two-way Kali, not a competitor to the KRK 10-3.
If you buy Kali, go for the two-way ones, they sound better than the three-speaker versions.
You saved me $800.00 LOL. Thank you! HISS would DRIVE ME NUTS. Most likely will be in a small room. Last think I want is line noise! Bag that! What a shame. Guess HS8's again. Was hoping for a three way speaker, but nothing else comes in under 1k for a pair. Back to searching, or just give up and buy what I use to have.
Glad I could save you a couple of bucks :) Sadly, I have not found a good 3-way studio monitor below 1000€ a pair. I heard some good things about the "Kali IN-8 Second Wave", but I have not yet heard them, so can't say how good/bad they sound.
I'm searching for a budget 3way monitor too. Currently I got my eyes on swissonic X8 and Kali audio In8 V2. Everyone is reporting the Kali's have zero noise so I'm thinking about getting them. There is one User that reviewd the swissonic and he reported noise as well , but that's just one person IDK if I should trust him. BUt I think the Kali in8s V2 is a safe bet.
@@radoslavdragnev8797 Haven't heard either of them. Would like to though. But I heard a lot of good things about the Kali IN8 V2. Really curious about the swissonic monitors though
@radoslavdragnev8797 Despite all said here, I took a risk on krk 10 3 😁 You know what? I freak n love them!!!! Hiss thing turns out to be not an issue at all. Unless it is dead quiet, you most likely won't notice. The reasoning? Extensive research and seeing that nothing was even close in price for studio 3 way. I don't want to give a review here, but I am happy. I left my original comment as most people, you dig. You seek out many opinions, and finally make the best decision for you, not others. Good luck in your search. 12" krk sub is next on the list. 😉
@@Curious_Skeptic KRK 10s and a sub? Are you going to open a nightclub or are you mixing rofl
I returned mine for the same exact reason.
It sucks that you also had these issues. It's weird that some claim they don't though. But I'm glad I wasn't the only one experiencing this, because some people don't seem to believe what I say here.
In any case, KRK should have done better on these. I would have gladly paid a little more if they didn't have that hiss.
I think everyone's sensitivity to it varies. Kali Audio took a lot of heat for hiss in their first generation of products. They made a concerted effort to reduce the noise significantly in the second generation. I returned the Kali IN-8 (v1) monitors that I had too. My old PreSonus Eris E8 speakers hiss as well but they are the quietest of the 3 I've had in my possession.
I was using the KRK's in my living room as part of my entertainment system, sat on top of a pair of 15" powered subwoofers. Even at 6-10' away I could hear them hissing at night when the house was quiet. They absolutely rocked the house otherwise. If KRK makes improvements in the future I will revisit them.
@@mwahlert Must be.. Yeah, if they would bring out a better version of these, I'd be all over these. Thanks for your comment!
You're not imagining things. KRK monitors have always had issues with hiss and electrical interference.
It's a shame, really.. other than the hiss the quality of the sound was pretty good.
As of February 2023, these monitors have been out for FOUR YEARS. So there must be plenty of reviews on them. I am suspecting KRK will come out with a Generation 5 version soon. Or else retire this 3-way RP10-3s of theirs entirely. They had 4 years to "work out" the hiss issue. Apparently they did not. If you go with a Class-G, Class-H, or Class-AB amplifier in your monitors, you will likely not have hiss/self-noise, or only very little. There is nothing worse then an "economy" Class-D amp and unprotected, unshaded or poorly shaded internal power supply. BTW, RP10-3 Gen 3 is now only available used, those ones have Class-AB amps and are therefore 4 kilogram heavier. No hiss with those, I believe. Adam Audio's new X-series 3-ways hit a perfect balance: Class-D for MF and LF, Class-AB amping for HPF. Purrfect.
Weirdly enough I could find some reviews, but none of them mentioned any hiss..
Well at least the volume on the 10-3 G3 does not seem to run all the way open, so you could lower any hiss you might get by lowering the volume, I guess. But as you noticed in another comment, someone was also mentioning hiss with the G3.
I switched to Focal monitors now, those have AB amps, and they are dead silent, even though they also run all the way open (there's no volume control).
@@SirFreak The Focals are total freakshows with the lack of a simple trim knob on them. Their new Alpha EVOs are all Class-D amped, BTW. Instantly forgettable.
Still beats the G2's with their AWFUL electrical interference, hiss and "black gunk of death" smeared all over their circut boards.
Yeah I've seen those issues around
i had to power mine on a UPS to segregate them from the "noisy" electrical in my house (i.e. refrigerator compressor etc.) Cleaned them up perfectly - was about to return as well.
I have also read that the built-in power supply is inadequate at properly filtering electrical noise. This confirms it.
I guess my power conditioner must not have been able to cure that as well, so it might not have been the best quality power conditioner.
you have a electrical issue
I don't have any issues with my current monitors. Also, a power conditioner did not improve anything. And I've heard several other people who had the same issue with these monitors. So I'm pretty sure the monitors are to blame.
Good video very on point stick with Yamaha hs8
Thanks! I've used the Yamaha HS8 at a friends studio a couple of times, and it is a pretty good production monitor. It does lack a bit of detail for mixing though. But then again, I've heard great mixes come from a studio that only has these, so if you know them well enough it doesn't always matter, I guess.
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Manufacturers are saving money by using class D amplifiers, and this problem comes from this type of amplifier.
I've also heard about this. Although it must be said that not all class D amps are noisy. But generally they seem to suffer from noise more often.
I guess it depends on the design and components
Maybe you got a bad set.
Quite possible. I've seen some other people having this issue as well though. But then again, it also seems some don't. Perhaps manufacturing tolerances are not that strict or something. Or they fixed it in newer sets, idk..
@@SirFreak I just got a set of Rokit 7. They do hiss. But, it is a typical class-D hiss with a cheap output filter. It's not any interference. All amps run at full tilt and are adjusted by adjusting the input, after setting the sensitivity. From 3 feet away, where I have them temp. placed, I can't hear the hiss. The monitors sound excellence, very balanced, great bass and accurate, tweets are very accurate. Good thing too is that you can EQ down, if needed, instead of up. All genres sound great. I don't use the EQ on the KRK; I use my own. Running them through/from an ID14.
@@RobHTech From what I've read online about this, the smaller models seem to have less issues with noise. This is quite specific to the 10-3 G4.
Suggested possible solutions to reduce KRK RP10-3 hiss/self noise.
1. Bypass the DC-to-AC power supply transformer, bypass the Class-D PWM amplifiers, maybe even bypass the twin crossovers. So, use them as passive monitors.
2. Remove the power supply from the speaker cabinet and use it in a Faraday Cage external to the monitor.
3. Remove the triple amplifiers from the speaker cabinet and use them in separate Faraday Cages external to the monitor.
4. Remove the twin crossover circuit boards from the speaker cabinet and use them in yet another separate Faraday Cage excternal to the monitor.
Hopefully if you do some or all of this, your idle/self-noise will be greatly reduced, or even totally eliminated.
Last hope: switch to headphones.
I'd have to sharpen up my electric knowledge a bit to start embarking on such a project. Wasn't there some other UA-camr trying to do this with these monitors?
Anyway, I'm quite happy with my current setup for now.
Yeah buy active speakers and just remove the amps out of them , sounds like a solution . KRK needs to address this stuff man its been like this for years with their gear , i still own a pair of the original rokit 6 first gen and they hiss like a bitch but its not as nasty as that one its more of a lower hiss that you kind of forget its there after a while at low volumes . I've heard the hiss from the rp10s and it sounds much higher frequency and almost ear piercing at times. Very disappointing .
@@JonnyParker- Absolutely correct! I've heard the rokit6 before, and they do have hiss, but not as loud and annoying as the rp10s.