Excellent Bushcraft Option! - Dutch Army Woodland Pack - Medium

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  • @RNLMC03
    @RNLMC03 9 років тому +66

    Hey Luke, i have been in the Dutch Army and i want to add some info about those side packs. We use them as a patrol pack by zipping them together, that is also why they both have straps. Keep up the good videos, i love al those different kind of military surplus gear vids.

  • @jorman463tc
    @jorman463tc 9 років тому +34

    Hi there Luke!
    I am actually from The Netherlands so I have seen these packs quite a lot.
    This is indeed a medium size.
    There is a small pack that's 40 liters.
    This pack is called "lowe Alpine Strike" and is 60 liters (the zippered packs on the side are 10 liters each and are meant to be zipped together as a day pack)
    I have it's bigger brother called "Lowe Alpine Sting" which is 80 liters
    And then there's the biggest version which is called "Lowe Alpine Saracen" and that pack is 120 liters.
    The camouflage pattern is called "DPM" it stands for disruptive Pattern Material
    It's the Dutch version which is only very slightly different from the Brittish.
    I love your channel Luke! Keep up the good work! If you'd like to see the sting pack I'd be happy to send you pictures and info!

    • @Phe-ze5ux
      @Phe-ze5ux 9 років тому

      great job for giving Luke the info on Lowe alpine's range of packs. I think Luke will enjoy researching this style of military packs. I have owned sold all three and really liked them. However, I have settled on the Berghaus Vulcan for my large pack and continue to search for the elusive perfect mid sized patrol pack.

    • @wrrtube
      @wrrtube 9 років тому

      +Jordy Tinus I have the Lowe Alpine Sting as well, great pack indeed. Do you happen to know if those are or have been military issue there?

    • @jorman463tc
      @jorman463tc 9 років тому +1

      +Timo Sandberg that's awesome man!
      Well it depends on what color you have. If it's the camo "DPM" then you have a current issue dutch military backpack for the regular infantry (I have the same one). I had a friend in the Dutch Airborne and he was issued the Saracen "120 liters" backpack.
      What a lot of military personel like to do as well is they get the berghaus brand backpacks. I have to say that I love this pack. It's done great service for me. But It is a very simplistic pack. I think it needs a little updating.
      Have a good one bud!

    • @wrrtube
      @wrrtube 9 років тому

      +Jordy Tinus Thanks for the info! I have the DPM version, never had a pack so comfortable even with heavy loads. Is the official size 80 liters? There's a lot of different specs around the internet from 70 (50+20) to 90 liters :) Only negative thing I have about it is the huge side pockets, your stuff just gets lost in them. But without the pockets it's still roomy enough for shorter trips. And it's a bit heavy as well (as military gear always is).. But it's bomb proof, you really can't break it unless you intentionally want to.

    • @jorman463tc
      @jorman463tc 9 років тому

      +Timo Sandberg mine is a little bit older now and the colors are fading pretty bad. I think it's bomb proof as well. I love the aluminum frame beams in the back. What really bothered me is that the velcro that closes the buckle and pad on the lower back was getting loose and was messing up my shirts and jackets. So I went ahead and bough a nice FILBE pack

  • @LOFIGSD
    @LOFIGSD 3 роки тому +3

    I bought one of these, when they appeared on a Surplus Site, very happy with it, all the space for a Winter multi day hike and stealthy for Wild Camping.

  • @nathanterstege4170
    @nathanterstege4170 9 років тому +25

    Sorry to correct you, but this pack is actually a small backpack. It's called the Lowe Alpine/Arwy Strike grab bag 60 liters capacity including the 2 daypacks. The medium sized pack are called Sting (single compartment) and Stingray (split main compartment) and hold 80 liters in total. And last but not least there's a large one called Saracen and holds 120 liters or 40 kgs! Just google them and you''ll like the bigger brothers even better. Keep up the good work!
    Sunny greets from Holland

    • @leeprice674
      @leeprice674 3 роки тому +2

      Hiya realise it's a while ago you commented sorry 😕
      Just ordered a surplus Lowe Alpine Sting and can't wait. It has the side packs too. Very pleased to be supporting the Dutch, as always good people and pretty good at football 😊

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for explaining that, I didn't know there were so many, I just thought there were 3, the 45l patrol pack (smaller than this), the Sting and the Stingray, but I thought the Stingray was 120 litres. I have the Sting and it's excellent, a bit heavy with the frame but it's built to distribute weight onto the hips nicely so I don't mind that.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 роки тому +1

      @@leeprice674 The Sting is a cracking bergen you won't be disappointed. Dutch kit is top, very robust. I have a Dutch poncho, steel mess tins, canteen and steel cup, and use them a lot.

    • @Luka_H
      @Luka_H 3 роки тому

      @@simonh6371 the woodland backpacks are just not durable and got to be maintained and fixed all the time, but they are all gonna be renewed soon

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 роки тому +1

      @@Luka_H Do you mean the one in this video, or the whole range of Dutch DPM backpacks including Sting (the one I have), Stingray and Saracen? My Sting is pretty robust as far as I can see. Plus it's amazing for comfort etc compared to what I was issued in the British Army late 80s/early 90s, the 58 pattern large pack which is more like something from the First World War. Still I guess they will all get renewed so that they match the new camo used in the KL/KKM.

  • @simonforget280
    @simonforget280 9 років тому +5

    The bottom loop was designed to secure ice picks on backpacks when walking.
    Since I'm not a ice climber, I use them in a similar fashion for my axes.

  • @sanderbass
    @sanderbass 4 роки тому +3

    Great review Luke. One small addition: the buckle is designed like that so that it can very quickly be taken off under fire. No fumbling and it's very easy to operate with gloves on.

  • @jakeboss2653
    @jakeboss2653 9 років тому +2

    Hi Luke, awesome P/review, I have this pack, I really love packs that have that feature, that you can remove pouches and wear them as a separate pack, Wow, I had No idea you could zip those 2 pouches together, what i always did is remove the strap from the second pouch and put it on the one pouch and wear it as a backpack, i cant believe i hadn't thought of zipping them together, freaking awesome!, i will do that today :) Thanks Luke! -Jake

  • @dutchman2205
    @dutchman2205 9 років тому +1

    Hi! Nice review. I'm from the Netherlands ('Dutch") and I was in the army. We normaly use the 60 liter backpack. We call the two side bags 'daypacks' and it holds everything you need for the day, like a stofe, towels, dry socks, thermoscan, mess set etc. In the backpack we stuff our sleepingbag and bivybag. Also a dry uniform, poncho, etc. search on youtube for 'Rugzak 60 liter landmacht' for a video from some guys who made a cool video about it.

  • @Olympia_Outdoors
    @Olympia_Outdoors 9 років тому +6

    just a heads up, from a surplus lover Dutch army gear Is kinda the king

  • @TheMjsmithy
    @TheMjsmithy 9 років тому +2

    Luke, get yourself a genuine 120Ltr British Infantry Bergen with side pockets and yoke, short back in Olive or Dpm. You will not be disappointed.

  • @annebrowning8683
    @annebrowning8683 3 роки тому +1

    Yes, as below Luke - great pack. These were influenced by British Bergens by companies like Bergaus (Vulcan, Crusader etc). The side pouches can zip together to make one day pack, or as you said, you can take one off one and add it to the other. The clips and buckle were invented by Bergaus, injection moulded in the 70s. These dutch clips are especially good quality and the dpm pattern is similar to Brit DPM.

  • @hongchang9370
    @hongchang9370 2 роки тому

    Arter 30 yrs of a Alice fan ( hunting camping) I by chance came across the Dutch,Bergman .am glad my curiosity really kicked orders one for 84.00 US $ .I was so impressed I ended up getting along and short back British Bergman. I hope to get many yrs of use. I am 100% disabled , but going down fighting. The Bearhunter5.

  • @munchh2007
    @munchh2007 9 років тому +2

    hi Luke, the British bergen (i have 2) has the side pouches that come also and they come with a proper yoke to use them as a day pac, snugpac also do one very similar, I beleive the larger dutch one is also very similar.

  • @lasseholtzer8590
    @lasseholtzer8590 2 роки тому

    hi Luke, the side pockets you can zip together to get a daypack, and the buckle is made so that it doesn't make a sound when you un bucle it

  • @beindustrious
    @beindustrious 9 років тому +1

    Very nice pack. Dutch military surplus is top-quality. Yes, the side-poclets seems to be similar to the Berghaus MMPS pockets, that you can get for instance for the Centurio 45 and comes included with some of their larger "bergens" , and zip together and carry as a small day-pack when you want to go light.

  • @keithorbell9500
    @keithorbell9500 7 років тому +4

    Luke, I'd love to see your review of the British Infantry Bergan, and also the British NI (Northern Ireland) Patrol Pack.

  • @opalprestonshirley1700
    @opalprestonshirley1700 9 років тому +2

    Sweet pack. Similar to the British Bergen. I'll have to check that one out. I really like the detachable side pouches that can form a smaller pack. Thanks Luke. atb Opal

  • @keithhenderson9536
    @keithhenderson9536 9 років тому

    Luke its similar to the British army bergan, Ref the side pockets mainly in Norway I use to put a sleeping bag in one a tarp&bivi bag in the middle & a Coleman cooker food and warm clothing in the other and snow shoes straped on the out side. job done happy days, ps hope your all keeping well :-)

  • @xfatsx1991
    @xfatsx1991 9 років тому

    You should pick up the British Army 120ltr bergen. it has detachable pockets like this one and you can put them together to form a small rucksack. it even came with a yoke and the British army 3ltr camelbak can replace the pockets as they are held by zips and buckles. Good bit of kit

  • @Paul-eb3pg
    @Paul-eb3pg 9 років тому +8

    The side pockets zip together like a British bag

  • @martinlutz5446
    @martinlutz5446 3 роки тому

    Both the buckle for the waist belt and side pockets look very similar to some Berghaus product, the Centurio backpack models come to mind there. Not sure which one was "inspired" by the other or if they developed them independently. The Berghaus MMPS pouches (which usually are sold independently, since they fit both the Centurio and Crusader backpacks) also come with a little sternum strap.

  • @harmvissers3353
    @harmvissers3353 8 років тому +2

    here in NL you can buy them for about $40 so for the quality and space it is as cheap as possible

    • @genemcvay4800
      @genemcvay4800 7 років тому

      what should I google in dutch? Thank you for your answer!

  • @scottbainetwisted_keel_adv5821
    @scottbainetwisted_keel_adv5821 6 років тому

    Funkyprepper in the UK has one of those packs and some how he managed to zip the two side pouches together to make a pack.

  • @Binjh76
    @Binjh76 7 років тому

    I believe the two side pouches attach together to form one day pack. I could be mistaken though of course.

    • @Binjh76
      @Binjh76 7 років тому

      Ha,well nevermind you figured it out.

  • @mccandless1
    @mccandless1 9 років тому

    Yo Luke check out the Karrimore SF 45. That pack uses the same pocket system with a yolk for carrying em on their own. I'd say its the best quality of its kind of that design.

  • @tjbrison
    @tjbrison 6 років тому +1

    Great pack - but appears very rare now - can't find these anywhere!

  • @usgravyseal6274
    @usgravyseal6274 Рік тому

    When the penny drops when he realise they zip together 👏👏😂 similar to the British Bergen with 2 rocket pouches

  • @LowPlainsDrifter60
    @LowPlainsDrifter60 9 років тому

    It's the Lowe Alpine strike 40 litres......Lowe alpine make a lot of the Dutch army's packs but their brand name isn't always on the packs as they are sometimes made under licence elsewhere . They also come in olive drab.but they're harder to find & so more expensive.
    The side pouches are removable & designed to act as a day pack, they are PLCE compatable, which means the side pouches of the British army bergen , the Berghaus vulcan, Snugpac bergen & the Karrimor SF packs are all interchangable.( they are usually 10 litres each but there are some at 12 & 15 litres.)
    Lowe Alpine make great, well built & designed backpacks, both military & civilian, & this particular bag is no exception. Very popular with the bushcraft community across the pond because of it's versatility, medium capacity & of course the quality/ price ratio.
    The next size up is the Lowe Alpine sting & the daddy of them all is the Lowe Alpine Saracen.

  • @beastsurvivalist839
    @beastsurvivalist839 7 років тому +1

    proud Dutchman....we are as a small country very proud how we astablesh in the world

  • @blablabla2530
    @blablabla2530 8 років тому +3

    you can zip two together and you have a small back pack .

    • @TheOutdoorGearReview
      @TheOutdoorGearReview  8 років тому +1

      +bla blabla That's a pretty interesting capability isn't it? - Luke

  • @christophergraff6683
    @christophergraff6683 9 років тому +1

    Green intro looks 10x better

  • @secondintime1118
    @secondintime1118 3 роки тому

    Side pouches zip together. Hence one shoulder strap per pouch.

  • @tracyrreed
    @tracyrreed 9 років тому +1

    Neat pack. Those harnesses on the inside of the side pouches is extra weight which would likely be rarely used. I'm guessing the pouches are intended to be sling-packs and have two attachment points at the top of the pouch for the one strap so you can move the strap to the other side if you prefer to carry it over the other shoulder (left handed vs right handed). Maybe the other pouch has a strap too so you can give it to a buddy?

    • @jorman463tc
      @jorman463tc 9 років тому +2

      It's actually meant to zip together for a daypack. You have to fiddle with the straps a little to make it comfortable haha. In the Dutch Army you are taught to pack your bag a certain way so if need be, you can unzip the side pockets and use it as an assault pack. Very handy feature according to me :)

    • @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES
      @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES 9 років тому

      +Jordy Tinus yes british rocket pouches are designed the same

  • @kan-zee
    @kan-zee 9 років тому

    the Detachable Day Scout Pack is a great addition. Kewl ;-)
    Great Review...thank you sir !!
    cheers 60$ is awesome !!

  • @TheJanhendrik
    @TheJanhendrik 3 роки тому

    this is an imitation backpack.the real one is lowe alpine sting or stingray almost like the big one the saracen.these you also shown there are for both different sizes because of heigt of the person and can also be st to the length in whitch you fall within the side of the back.

  • @chelseafeth
    @chelseafeth 9 років тому

    Great review Luke and the pack is very good but in my opinion the British Bergen is much better . Now I don't know if you have received the British Bergen or seen one but we call those side pouches ( rocket pouches ) and you can put them together with a yoke system which allows you to carry more gear anyway great review and take care . Feth UK

  • @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES
    @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES 9 років тому +1

    i believe its the strike pack

  • @shadowman2469
    @shadowman2469 9 років тому

    Hi Luke very nice backpack i like the military surplus gear this pack looks similar to the Austrian Georg Essl RU502 wich is often used by soldiers here costs around 55Euro and no reviews on yt no idea if the sidepacks of the Essl are removable. I my friend am in Poland right now on a military meeting im going to drive the t 55 tank tomorrow :-) and ill buy a ton of military surplus including some polish mre's its like paradise here and lot of dirt :-) Stay well my friend!

  • @boodzoutdoors9549
    @boodzoutdoors9549 9 років тому

    wish we had better access to gear like this in australia . looks like a good thing. and as always , nice vid luke

    • @boodzoutdoors9549
      @boodzoutdoors9549 9 років тому

      +imsuckingwind sorry i dont agree. its the tax on imports more likley. dont forget i do live in the best country in the world ,, ha ha anyway lets not go there..

  • @MrPotatoesLatkie
    @MrPotatoesLatkie 4 роки тому

    So this version didn't come with a padded back, and belt? There is one of a similar size that has that, and I thought the one I purchased did, but this seems to be different.

  • @kjumper1
    @kjumper1 9 років тому

    you zip the 2 side pouches together to make a assault pack. Each pouch has it's own shoulder strap

  • @thefirsthuffman
    @thefirsthuffman 4 роки тому

    Love these bags!

  • @mobiltec
    @mobiltec 9 років тому

    I love it. I want one.

  • @OutdoorWanderer1
    @OutdoorWanderer1 9 років тому

    Definitely an interesting design.

  • @rainbowhiker
    @rainbowhiker 3 роки тому

    It's nice.

  • @stephenyoung5392
    @stephenyoung5392 2 роки тому

    The two side pouches zipper together for other shoulder strap

  • @Jonboyr700
    @Jonboyr700 9 років тому

    This pack more or less looks like a direct copy of the KarrimorSF Sabre 45 (minus shoulder straps on the side bags).

  • @patricioestrada613
    @patricioestrada613 9 років тому

    Hey nice pack, I wanted to ask you if you could do a review on the B99 Explorer tactical bag because I've been trying to make my bug out bag just that I can't decide on which bag to choose from eitherthe Maxpedition falcon 2 ,the Vanquest trident 20 or the B99 explorer tactical bag.

  • @beachsandinmyhair5429
    @beachsandinmyhair5429 9 років тому

    Great video! Interesting pack. Could you tell me the weight?

  • @blablabla2530
    @blablabla2530 8 років тому

    oh yes but still love small size backpacks that have sidepacks with extra ammo and water.

  • @montanabillings6222
    @montanabillings6222 9 років тому

    Always a good job, Luke.

  • @richschwartz8004
    @richschwartz8004 9 років тому

    It looks like a budget friendly version of the snug pack rocket backpack. The side bags on that also come off to form another pack or single bags. Thanks for sharing. I miss the weekly surplus review. God bless and stay safe.

  • @ivikhenry2424
    @ivikhenry2424 9 років тому

    Getting one.

  • @cyborbot547
    @cyborbot547 9 років тому

    Nice pack, but! keeping my MOLLE II Rifleman pack just the same liked the video btw

  • @lildevilgamer
    @lildevilgamer 9 років тому

    You can zip those side pouches together to forma a day pack

    • @lildevilgamer
      @lildevilgamer 9 років тому

      +lildevilgamer Well, didn't wait till the end with the comment

  • @deepsouthNZ
    @deepsouthNZ 2 роки тому

    Genius pack only downer for me is no internal frame

  • @Thereal111t
    @Thereal111t 9 років тому +1

    By 'offensive' you mean alpenflage don't you?

  • @SpartaTV
    @SpartaTV 9 років тому

    Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ktrigg2
    @ktrigg2 9 років тому +7

    Ice axe loop

    • @TheOutdoorGearReview
      @TheOutdoorGearReview  9 років тому +2

      ktrigg2 I was wondering that but found it odd that there was only one of them. Typically there would be two.
      Thanks KTrigg.
      - Luke

  • @emantide6306
    @emantide6306 3 роки тому

    The two packs zip together to form a rocket pack( day pack or to carry ammo ect if you stash your bergan in RV point,ie during attack ) same as 1990 s British army bergan. You did make me laugh when you wore it like a man bag .

  • @overratedprogrammer
    @overratedprogrammer 2 роки тому

    How tall are you?

  • @queef3057
    @queef3057 9 років тому

    I honestly think the money is better spent on a berghaus vulcan, the bag that squadies buy out of their own money to replace issue bergans and the successor to the once military issue berghaus cyclops series of bag...
    These military items have tried to clone the earlier cyclops and recent vulcans as much as possible over the years but they just don't compete.They are not as comfortable or well thought out (the vulcan has webbing only where it is actually useful for instance, and the cyclops 2/3 back system is amongst the very best out there)..
    But price, you might be thinking 'they are in a different category.. Well, actually no. The dutch and british bergans go for around £50 in the UK, depending on quality and where you buy, but always well used. You'll pick up a near new, barely used vulcan for a little extra, seen em for £70-£80 on forums, much cheaper with more wear. Brand new? This is the great bit, they are nearly always in the sale. I bought a brand new one for under £100 (sub half price at the time) while waiting for a half decent issue bergan to show up, best bag i have ever owned.
    But hey, an extra £20-£30 for a better bag, for some, just wont be an option and i understand. So why not pay half the price of a dutch/british bergan in this video and get an older berghaus 'cyclops 2' (for instance the NI /SAS issue for around £20).
    It makes no sense to me to buy a used clone, if you can only afford used your still getting the better bag and better buy by getting the original berghaus', in fact in the case of the older cyclops your typically paying more money for less bag with the military clones.

  • @danhold1
    @danhold1 7 років тому

    nice review

  • @grimdeathlord
    @grimdeathlord 9 років тому

    what is the name of the pants ur wearing, and will u be doing a video on them.

    • @TheOutdoorGearReview
      @TheOutdoorGearReview  9 років тому +1

      grimdeathlord Sure thing brother, I will do a video on them for you.
      They are a Fjallraven Zipoff....can't remember the model off the top of my head.
      I'll get a video done for you.
      - Luke

    • @grimdeathlord
      @grimdeathlord 9 років тому

      TheOutdoorGearReview thanks cant wait..

    • @grimdeathlord
      @grimdeathlord 9 років тому

      also there is a american company withe some sweet clothing like their all season pants, mountain shorts and gen 2 pants check them out.

  • @KarlHessey-db6mf
    @KarlHessey-db6mf 5 місяців тому

    How many litres

  • @MaxSluiman
    @MaxSluiman 4 роки тому

    The design of this pack is ok. But the version you show here is the cheap Chinese copy by Arwy, which is also used by the Dutch army, for budgetary reasons. It falls apart when you look at it too fiercly. Especially the drama are weak. Get the original by Lowe Alpine.

  • @santamanone
    @santamanone 8 років тому

    Umm. The side pouches only have 1 strap each because you're supposed to zip the 2 pouches together to make a single, 2 compartment day pack..

    • @joshuanichols5468
      @joshuanichols5468 8 років тому

      you should watch the entire video before being a smartass

    • @santamanone
      @santamanone 8 років тому

      I did. It was worth repeating. You aren't.

  • @DARKRESCURED
    @DARKRESCURED 9 років тому

    those sidepockets are supposed to be zipped together and used as "daypack"

  • @Ayns.L14A
    @Ayns.L14A 9 років тому

    Hi if you like this pack you should have a look at the British Military, Northern Ireland patrol pack, www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_28?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=northern+ireland+patrol+pack&sprefix=northern+ireland+patrol+pack%2Caps%2C181 this is the original version of the Dutch pack you are reviewing

  • @g.v.d.m9894
    @g.v.d.m9894 6 років тому

    Im actualy a dutch army reserve and this is a rip off the real ones have two buckles on the front and there are a few more difreneses

  •  6 років тому

    I ordered one of these from "Swiss Link military surplus" and sent it back because it was a faded out dry rotted piece of shit that had the wrong side pouches on it. Buyer beware of that company!

  • @dutchman2205
    @dutchman2205 5 років тому

    ua-cam.com/video/XJ7-EdzRT7Y/v-deo.html
    This belongs in the bag

  • @Ijsje1979
    @Ijsje1979 2 роки тому

    Hey Luke , I own one of the other backpacks used in the Dutch army that is similar to this one , ..it's the BergHaus Crusader 90+20.
    It's a monster of a bag but it's very very comfy and has some additional features that make it better than this one .
    Out of all of the packs I own, I use the Crusader the most .(it's easily adjustable to use with lesser/lighter loads so even if it's not in "monster mode" it's a great bag to have
    The Crusader is an awesome pack, and for the price (between 140 and 170 Euro depending on your size)..it's pretty hard to beat
    If you haven't tried it yet I highly recommend you check it out .
    (P.s. if you are interested but can''t find one in the U.S .....I can help you out , just let me know )

  • @Olympia_Outdoors
    @Olympia_Outdoors 9 років тому

    just a heads up, from a surplus lover Dutch army gear Is kinda the king

  • @mccandless1
    @mccandless1 9 років тому

    Yo Luke check out the Karrimore SF 45. That pack uses the same pocket system with a yolk for carrying em on their own. I'd say its the best quality of its kind of that design.