3 Months with the Scuf Envision Pro! [A Completely Honest Review & Overlook of iCue]
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- Alright y'all its been three full months with the Scuf Envision Pro; and they have been 3 good months. Not a perfect product but one I'm still very happy with; ill be getting into the things I like about the Envision Pro and a few things I wish I could change about it as well.
This is one of my first review videos I've done like this so bare with me while I get better at this videos. I kept it honest to my opinion, nobody is paying me to say anything good/bad about this product so I wanted to remain as neutral as possible. Didn't want to rant for over 20 minutes about the controller so I tried to keep it short and sweet with all my key points. If y'all still have questions please reach out and keep the discussion up in the comments section; I will be replying to all of y'all!
More Scuf Envision Pro videos coming soon; getting more into programming key binds for OBS and bringing the full functionality of iCue to light.
0:00 Introduction
1:21 Condition
2:10 Hardware
3:10 Ergonomics/Changes I Would Make
6:10 Removal of Faceplate/Customization
6:43 iCue Software
11:12 Updating iCue Software
12:31 iCue Programming
13:23 Added Accessories
14:13 Final Thoughts
Scuf Tactic Thumbstick Grips: a.co/d/0Oeoz1u
Scuf Universal Carry Case: a.co/d/hf0jShE - Ігри
![Updating my Scuf Envision Pro so you don't have to! [Version 0.14.62]](/img/n.gif)
I do like my reviews pretty raw, you are the guy for me!
Raw and real my boiiii 😏
Great video! Helped me make my decision on the controller. Support and love from London.
Thanks brother! Appreciate the support and comment! Shout out London 🏴
My favorite review for this controller so far, imma buy one tonight on amazon
Yo man thank you! Means a lot; I’m new to these kinds of videos so I appreciate the feedback!
Thx for doing a review. After getting a steamdeck ive been looking for controler with remappable button insted of the mouse and keyboard. I was looking at this and the wolverine v2
Of course bro glad the review helped! I’ve been very happy with my Scuf so far. It’s been close to a full year and I had no major issues. A few times here and there the iCue software crashed but it has been flawless since the recent update tbh. I haven’t looked much into the wolverine v2 but seems like a viable contender. Lmk which one you end up grabbing. Thanks for the comment!
The buttons are the back are close together because they’re designed to be used with one finger. I’m also used to using middle and ring finger, which is why I haven’t picked one up yet. This is designed to roll just your middle finger up for the top and down for the bottom.
Yeah I know the one finger design is a slight drawback but I’ve gotten used to it now with my grip. The one finger press only works in some cases sadly; fast movements and simultaneous commands like a jump to crouch slide feels hard to preform consistently with the single finger. Maybe some upgrades in the future for the envision 2?
Let’s go I definitely agree with you I wish the next model has a touchpad and then scuff could have the face plates with a touchpad cutout.
Scuff if you combined this controller with the original scuff vantage 1 for ps4 that would be basically the perfect controller.
Bring back the touch pad and audio Touch Bar!!
Also add a psychical profile switch on the back for ultimate customization!
That would enable 2X Times the functionality of the G keys without having to pause your game and go into icue
…unless you can program a g key to switch profiles ? Not sure if that’s possible
Dude couldn’t have said it any more accurate. The Vantage 1 went crazy and had those long paddles on the back that were still super low profile.
That would be the perfect hybrid of comfort and utility. The touch pad would be a huge bonus for PC users cause then you can navigate your whole PC with one singular piece of hardware seamlessly!
hey bro i just picked it up this and im tryin to learn to play with it. Just wanted to say that i agree with you about the pads on the back needing to be a little more spaced out for both fingers.
Yeah for people like me coming from the Elite Series 2 it feels a little weird at first if you like resting all four fingers on the paddles. I feel like it was designed with the idea of only having one finger on the paddles at a time. If you rest just your middle finger on the P1 and P4 paddles you could use that middle finger to either apply upwards pressure to hit P2 and P3 or downwards pressure to hit P1 or P4.
The input honestly feels smooth and easy to hit the buttons when you use them that way but its not ideal for certain games with movement like apex legends where holding your toggle crouch down (P3) and jumping (P4) is needed simultaneously; all four fingers on the paddle work better for games like that compared to more straight forward game inputs where you don't need multiple inputs going on with the paddles at once.
Thanks for the comment, hope you adjust quickly like I did.
I use just my middle finger n slide it up n down to press the paddles
You play helldivers too!!!!! I have questions
1. Can i use the g keys to program the 2 buttons in the middle of the controller? Like in xbox beside the logo you have those 2 buttons or in ps5
Yeaaaahhhhh buddy! Fellow helldiver for sure. To answer your question though no you can’t program the “start/share” buttons like the shoulders, paddles and g keys could be programmed.
@@pizzaxavi damn its kinda annoying i have to remove my finger from the thumbsticks so i can open the map. thanks man great review
@@cyberbogart claw that finger over from the trigger or maybe you can use a shoulder button to keybind the input from your keyboard instead.
I used to think I enjoyed the Xbox series two paddles but I got a dual sense pro controller with buttons and loved it more. Then I got my scuf envision pro and the finger layout for the buttons are so similar but it’s even more comfortable to me. U have to have the right finger and hand position. Also these paddles are the most responsive I have tried. Most paddles or buttons I have used don’t feel good or have a delay
*edit I forgot one important thing for me. I have small hands but on the first two paddles on the back, if the groove was wide it would be game changing it’s a bit too sharp but I’m used to it
I feel that man; I had a slight adjustment period to learn the paddle layout for the scuf but like you said I’m so used to it now it’s not even an issue. They are super responsive with the mouse click and are the least mushy of the paddles I’ve ever used. Top paddles are a little bit nubby but with a slight redesign it would be a perfect controller for ergonomics.
🎮🖤 great review!
🫡 Learning the game from the best ^
In order to update firmware try plugging the usb cable in. Good review
Yes! All updates need the cable to be connected in order to work. Thank you.
can you set macro to a g key , for example, if i wanna set a l3+ r3 button press to a g key, is it possible? also once you set the g key, would they without the icue software? i like the shoulder buttons and the paddles, was hoping this would be a good control for my steam deck
YES! iCue allows for the G-Keys, Shoulders and Rear Paddles to be reprogrammed to anything you can think of. Macros work, Keystrokes work, you could even do things like launch apps and mute microphones. The only things that are NOT reprogrammable on the Envision pro is the standard face buttons. (ABXY/START/PAUSE/D-PAD/THUMBSTICK CLICKS) can not be reprogrammed.
They will also continue to work so long as you saved the bindings to your controllers on board memory. Your allowed 3 savable profiles to swap between on the fly.
Dope might go to best buy n give it a shot. Love my scuf for my ps5 so was looking for something similar for my steam deck
@@kevincampos6394 I love the mini stream deck options on the controller. I got mine at Best Buy too cause the return policy is really good there and made me feel better about spending the money on the controller knowing if anything happens I can return it for another one.
Is there a way to set up a rapid fire macro that works for CoD?
Yeah man there definitely is a way, but that’s big cheating in CoD to use it that way. Just have to mess with the delay times in the macro settings. Don’t get banned though.
Great video too man
Thanks for the feedback too man I appreciate it. New to making these types of videos and glad they’re helping.
I ended up returning mine because it would constantly lose its configuration even if iCue was open. Seems like if the PC went to sleep, the controller would stop working properly. I would have to reboot to get it to work again. But it would just fail again a soon as the PC went to sleep. Did this get fixed?
I’m going to film a video later about the newest firmware update that was release yesterday! I had minimal issues with the software in the past but people have said more recent updates “bricked” the controller.
I’m going to make a new video and see if the update fixes anything or just bricks my controller like others are saying. Wish me luck!
@pizzaxavi when it worked, I loved it. I hope they get it figured out.
@@waynegriffith yeah man I hope it just gets better from this update forward. The control and hardware feels great just the software needs some attention.
Which thumb stick grips did you get for it exactly? Next time drop an Amazon link so you get that referral money
I gotchu! I’m dropping the link in the description as well, I meant to do that and forgot.
a.co/d/0Oeoz1u
Any idea if Kontrol Freeks work on this, or is it proprietary?
Nah to my knowledge the Scuf Envision is the only product that works for the iCue software.
Kontrol Freeks does work. Ps4/ps5 ones. i’ve the scuf envision pro. i bought it a couple of months ago but i can’t get used to it. so i just packed it and kept it. i try to use it sometimes but its not just for me lol. i’m looking for someone to give it to but i haven’t found any yet. if you want it or know anyone that do wants this please LMK. i can send it to them for free. this isn’t a scam comment. i’ve a lot of custom controllers. i currently use the Vader v3 pro so i don’t really need the scuf
Edit: they don’t need to pay me anything or send me any money btw. they can just pay to the logistics company and have them pick it up from my place and deliver to them
@@elijnr ahhh man that’s a shame that it doesn’t work well for you. I’m definitely trying to get more into the custom control scene and the Vader V3 Pro is a awesome one too.
I can definitely make use of your other Scuf if you truly don’t want it. If I don’t put it to use I can give it to my brother who has been looking for a second hand one. If you want send me a private message either here or on Instagram and we could talk more about it. My IG is PizzaXavi as well.
Appreciate the comments and the input on the controllers.
@@pizzaxavi yes i am. i just sent you a private instagram DM. waiting for you to accept
JUST INSTALLED MINE, KINDA WEIRD BUT IT WILL POP OFF A RANDOM SHOT WHEN YOU'RE NOT PULLING TRIGGER
I heard other people saying they had a pop off shot too lol One thing you can do to remedy it is make sure your trigger deadzones in iCue aren’t too low. Under the triggers tab there’s a spider bar to adjust the input for the trigger. With them being in mouse click mode it’s easy for that trigger to go off so play with that sensitivity and you should be all good.
Here is my thing for the price of this controller scuff could have went with hall effect modules and triggers especially for a 200$ price tag that is why I'm sticking to aim controllers until scuff can step up the quality of eternal parts
I hear that man; I never tried aim controllers but they do look super worth the price point with all the amount of customizations that could go on with it. Definitely wish they put some Hall effects in this scuf since it’s become more and more common of a feature in 3rd party controls but the main selling point was the G-Keys for me on this control. It’s like having a stream deck and a controller all in one. It peaked my interest and I’m not upset with scuf for it. I think if I’m the future they workout the software issues rework the shape of the paddles a bit and throw some Hall effects in here it would be a close to perfect control in my opinion.
I want to look more into Aim Controllers now too though thanks for the heads up.
@@pizzaxavi hey anytime I own a envision pro myself I probably owned every controller on the market as im an og gamer and I'll say this I love the envision pro I already run icue sense my PC is a full Corsair build anyways so I haven't personally had any issues with with that software at all but I will say aim controllers is hands down one of the best pro controllers out on the market right and if you do ever want to get a aim controller use my homies code to get a nice chunk dropped from the price the code is " KAPZ " And that will bring the price to a way more affordable number 😁 you definitely won't be disappointed in the aim hall effect controller but the envision pro controller is definitely a very nice PC controller and with the just a few minor upgrades the envision would be my top pro controller out on the market today
HE sticks doesn’t mean it’s better
@@nazarethproductions7095 yes it does he stick are far superior in every way especially in competitive fps play 🤷🏾♂️
Are scuf vision pro is in philipines to or not plsss in philipines to
Google says that Scuf ships globally to all countries except Afghanistan so you should be good!
Thanks for comparing your experiences, i was able to relate
1. Back buttons - thank you for bringing this up, we have the same problem
2. X button and emptyvspace: i dont think this will be a problem for me since i use an xbox controller but great comparison
Yeah the smaller paddles seem almost designed for one finger at a time; if you got one finger on both paddles back there you could like click upwards and downwards pretty comfortably but for myself I like having one finger each paddle and that kind of makes it a little cramped back there at first.
I mean people leave Wallpaper engine on with multiple displays and they complain about the ICUE software 🤣 ps im waiting on mine and i have high expectations.
Lmfao seriously the same people prob drive around with 3 light warnings on their car dashboard.
When you get your scuf come back and let me know how you actually like it! I’ve been using mine to make macro key strings for hell diver 2 stratagems recently so expect that explanation video soon too.
Thanks for the comment bro. Really hope you like the control as much as me.
I'll keep in touch, thnx. Keep the content going man.
I just the Bought it! And This is Misleading and Miss Information!!!!! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SOFTWARE RUNNING!!! You can quit the software and the controller runs AMAZING.. I’ve hear it all over the internet that the software needs to be running is a LIE! Best Controller out 2024 if u need help Dm here ASAP
@@J90.s Yeah it just needs to be running in the background for the g keys to function properly with other apps. If you have your profiles saved to your on board memory on the envision pro everything works fine as a videogame controller.
You can still have your g keys programmed for whatever inputs and key bindings to the on board memory and use it like that; but in my case I couldn’t control apps like my insta360 link software and OBS features without having the software running in the background minimized.
Glad you loving the controller though. I’ve been running it for like almost a year now and still have no regrets.
@@pizzaxavi nice! Idk I guess it all depends on the controller when buying it and where from some work with the software on some work with the software off! In my case I have all keys map even the gs key and game for about 12 hours a day and I never had a problem yet! I don’t need to have the software on ! Plus it adds delays to ur cpu more usage! I play Cod everyday I have no problem and the controller is so damn accurate. I will make a video soon. Hope it goes well with you but the controller is A 1 💯 Best out now!
I found ICUE 5 genuinely unuseable wouldn't start whatever I did I'm familiar with ICUE 4 as I've been using the Corsair K100 and Virtuoso XT for like 3 years now but ICUE 5 has never worked for me even when I tried to update to it before the controller was even out.
Yeah tbh this is my first experience with iCue as a whole and seems like I’ve entered at the wrong time 😅 I don’t know why some updates fail to install I’m also still having that problem and it’s frustrating but at least in my case it hasn’t hindered my experience with the control. All its functions still work no problem so I hope that stays the case for me.
@@pizzaxavi Hey if it works for you no harm no foul right.
The software uses alot of power when u equip murals and other stuff i had done that and figured out the hard way
Yeah it does use more of your resources, it’s essentially playing a video on loop over and over on your controller. It looks cool but not really the best use of your CPU.
@@pizzaxavi thats what i said??
@@Gn_wish I know; I’m just agree with you.
good controller but anyone with smaller hands will struggle using the paddles and i recommend a ps5 custom pad
I’d have to agree with you man! The controller is on the smaller side at least for the paddles and the grips themselves. The DS5 grips fit nicer in hand as well as give more paddle room even with after market attachments
Hate iCue, I got rid of everything Corsair bar my PSU so that I didn’t have to run it. Wish they gave the controller on board storage
Dang man that's rough, yeah iCue been doing some people dirty but have yet to wrong me. I just filmed another update video regarding firmware 0.14.62 and haven't had any issues at all. Praying it stays that way.
people moan about iCue but its never given me an issue. Have my mouse and RGB ram controls, and soon to have the envision. No issues here. There are far worse bloatware's for peripherals out there.
Same for me! Idk if it’s a batch issue with some of the controllers or something but I have had minimal issues with iCue.
There is a new update for the controllers firmware so I’m going to make a new video and see if the update fixes anything or just bricks my controller like others are saying. Wish me luck!
Am I the only one who feels like this controller is a little bit uncomfortable to play with compared to my regular ps5 controller. Like the scuff is a bit bigger
Nah; I felt weird transferring over too at first. Even though thumbstick placement is the same the control in hands feels a little more snub on the grips compare to the DS5. I think its more of a xbox style body feel with DS5 thumbstick orientation.
Don't give it to me raw bro.
Good video though
LOL I’m sorry bro but I had been given!
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You have 3?
I have this controlller and threw it in the trash the software is a joke and controller sticks are bs
Damn man that’s rough, sorry to hear yours didn’t work? Did you legit throw it in the trash? Lol do you still got that trash? Send me the trash……
Bro said touch pad
Bro said green fedora
Holy shit elite paddles are dogshit
They never done me wrong; until they stopped clicking and I had to gaf tape mine to get them to register again. Zoom in and you can see them in the video LOL
They’re the best back paddles for any pro controller and it ain’t a debate. Plus the Scuf elite 2 paddles make them unmatched
@@daddydollabill5102 you ever try back buttons? Like battle beaver or the envision. Cus shit is 100 times better.
You're able to actually grip the controller, rather than having your fingers floating over the paddles never being able to get an actual grip.
@@MuseR. I’ve tried the envision but wasn’t to big a fan because they get stick drift easily and the software wasn’t working