Fiio M23 First Look 👀 We Have Issues 😤

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  • Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
  • #fiio #audio #music #electronics
    First look at FiiO’s M23 DAP and we have issues! Tracks start stop, start stop, stop period and have to reboot. Some tracks don’t start playing until several seconds into the track. The software is extremely laggy as well.
    I do not recommend buying the Fiio M23 in its current state.
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  • @CarAudioHorizons
    @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

    Update! I was testing the M23 yesterday as I brought it with me on a road trip and I never had any issues playing music on either Apple Music or the Fiio player. Never experienced this before in a DAP where it was extremely buggy for 3-4 days and now is fine. Fiio hasn’t released a new firmware update so I’m not sure what happened other than it might have not updated properly the 3 times I reset the device but the funny thing is I never tried to update it again as it just started working properly other than I still get the lag and a few other issues like the the FiiO Control App that never connects 😆
    It’s back to start stop😅

  • @Drakken2030
    @Drakken2030 Місяць тому +3

    Hey brother good review. It's definitely because Fiio has their pockets. NO ONE EVER HAS A BAD FIIO REVIEW., Thank you for being brave. I've had issues with some of the dongles, so I don't buy their products anymore. However, it's good to see someone being honest about the products they put out.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      This wasn’t a review just an initial first look and it seems like it has corrected itself as yesterday I have had zero issues other than the usual lag. Will see how it goes in the next few days now that I can listen to it properly.

  • @silverevans7763
    @silverevans7763 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for the review. You just saved me money. I was thinking of buying the M23 v M11 plus.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      This wasn’t a review, that will be coming this weekend but on the Canadian Amazon site they have the Fiio M11 Plus’s ESS on for $700 Canadian which is as cheap as I have seen that DAP.
      Looks like they raised the price up to $900 but I’m sure it will go back down to $700.

    • @silverevans7763
      @silverevans7763 Місяць тому +1

      Do you know if the M11 plus worth buying? Or the Astell & kern better. I'm new to mp3 players never had one .I'm looking to improve sound quality a little without adding a dsp.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      @@silverevans7763 Which Astell and Kern are you looking at?

    • @silverevans7763
      @silverevans7763 Місяць тому +1

      I don't know anything under $1,200 can you please recommend me one. Thank you

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      There isn’t much under $1,000 anymore that’s any good. We use to get decent DAP’s for the price a 3-4 years ago. Now not so much.

  • @MartinWinter-yg1tr
    @MartinWinter-yg1tr Місяць тому +2

    I received mine two weeks ago, listened very often in long Tidal sessions (online and offline) without experiencing mentioned issue even once. What I noticed though, is that the M23 tends to get warm to the touch when listening to high quality tracks.....

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      Mine just all of a sudden started working properly yesterday other than the software lag everything seems to be fine.

  • @brianaustin6671
    @brianaustin6671 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the review. I would love to know in your next video if you are streaming the music or if you have it downloaded, I have an M11 plus that I download the music and for the most part it’s OK but every once in a while, I have a song that gets deleted, and I was wondering if it’s the Apple Music or if it is the M11 plus. I was using Qobuz and it got so bad deleting all the music I got rid of Qobuz and started using Apple Music and it seems to be better but not perfect

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      This wasn’t a review, it was just to inform people to not buy it until Fiio has a proper firmware update. The review will becoming more than likely this weekend.
      I download all my music and for streaming music services I always listen to them offline with the exception of the WiiM Mini which I streamed the music. I actually prefer Apple Music over everything as I feel it has less issues that the other Hi Res Music companies. I liked Tidal for a while but had many issues with it deleting my playlists.

  • @high16200
    @high16200 Місяць тому +1

    Hi Dave, been a while, so glad to see you brother. Thanks for a short update on the Fiio M23 and letting us know about the issues, I was curious about this DAP but now I know not to look for it. I still have the Fiio M 11 LTD and I'm fine with it. Thanks again and look forward to your future reviews🙏🙏

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      Hello my friend I hope all is well. Yes, this device needs a firmware update as it’s been a pain to do a review for.

    • @high16200
      @high16200 Місяць тому

      Yes! thanks Dave, we are fine and enjoying the sunny days as much as possible. I hope Fiio fixes this or no one will buy this product. Glad to see you my friend.

  • @topandrun126
    @topandrun126 Місяць тому +2

    Lol i was reading this same issue on Amazon review. Guessing is you write that review. And i was waiting for you to review this player cause you're using it in the same way i intended to use it. Thank you

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      I’m in the process of testing it, unfortunately it’s been a pain because of the issues. How this gets past quality control is beyond me.

  • @leo-hb1mg
    @leo-hb1mg Місяць тому +2

    I have the same issue, I cannot log in the fiio music, it keeps repeating restarting

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      I had that a few times and then it finally let me log into my Apple Music account.

  • @Winosanchez
    @Winosanchez Місяць тому +2

    Did you update firmware to the latest (for the moment) 1.01?

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +2

      Did you watch the video? 😆

    • @Winosanchez
      @Winosanchez Місяць тому +2

      @@CarAudioHorizons ok, I see you did :)

  • @awaysooner
    @awaysooner Місяць тому +4

    Maybe you got a lemon, ask for a replacement, and see? But in 2024 still using SnapDragon 660 from 2017 is outdated.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      This is my second unit and I found an online review were the guy mentioned it as well. So it’s definitely a ship the product and update it later scenario.

    • @awaysooner
      @awaysooner Місяць тому +2

      @@CarAudioHorizons Oh wow, that's really bad.

    • @moonabhinav
      @moonabhinav Місяць тому +3

      And worst is community and reviewers defending all companies on using this chip from middle age.
      Can you imagine you made a Bugatti and put a 2 cylinder engine in it.

  • @Gadgetibles
    @Gadgetibles Місяць тому +1

    I dont understand why Fiio cant just get the software well optimized for their hardware and they have been around long enough for them not be having these issues... I got the M7 back in 2019 i was so upset i wanted to smash the player on the wall because the UI was sluggish and unstable i have avoided them since then... I will try shangling or Ibasso they seem to be better sonys are too expensive

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  29 днів тому

      Yes, I was expecting things to get better but they stick to the same old same old. 720p screen, 4GB Ram, Android 10 etc..

  • @ROCKSTAR3291
    @ROCKSTAR3291 Місяць тому +1

    Biggest selling point of Fiio DAPs is the desktop mode and I hear they've perfected this feature with the M23, such a shame it has firmware issues.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, it work well on the M17 and now you can just use usb type c for it sometimes 😆 I’m sure they will have a firmware update soon.
      I’m finding their sound signatures to be all over the place since the original M11 which I thought was their best DAP for the money they have ever brought out.
      FiiO seems to be using a lot of the same old tech from past DAP’s as well instead of progressing which has been extremely annoying

    • @justinmerrill3548
      @justinmerrill3548 Місяць тому +1

      The dude needs to update it!

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      @@justinmerrill3548 Dude needs to update what? Are you confused 🫤

    • @Warzone2Videos
      @Warzone2Videos Місяць тому

      @@justinmerrill3548 I take it you didn’t watch the video as that’s the first thing he said. Another D:-;M A/:::ss

  • @aroach337
    @aroach337 Місяць тому +1

    I have the same issues with my M11 Pro playing Tidal offline content. The download is fine. It will play for hours through headphones, but in my car I use SPDIF and I get this content not available message. The native music app works fine for me.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      Interesting, I never had the M11 pro, just the regular M11 and the only issues I had with that was with the Dual SIM and the fact you couldn’t use Apple Music because of the Samsung chip they were using at the time.

  • @anatol1204
    @anatol1204 Місяць тому +1

    Maybe something else is wrong.I m skeptical that Fiio would make this damage to its reputation..If it's firmware I m sure they will fix it

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      Fiio has had many issues with most of it’s products over the years. Some never get fixed. Their Fiio control app is a good example as half the time you can’t connect and then when you do connect it tends to disconnect.
      All of their devices have had issues with going from 16 bit to hi res tracks when going from one track to the next. These are just two examples of Fiio product issues.

  • @moonabhinav
    @moonabhinav Місяць тому +2

    And these companies continue to use snapdragon 660 in 2024.
    Even all main stream reviewer defending this chip saying its sufficient.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, I never understood these reviewers saying it’s adequate. That definitely doesn’t help move things forward.

  • @themythic2251
    @themythic2251 Місяць тому +1

    I had some issues with my m11. That was my first and last fiio dap😅. I'm happy with my Sony.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      The original M11 was good other than you couldn’t use two micro sd cards and you couldn’t use Apple Music with it as it had the Samsung chip which was incompatible with Apple Music

  • @arupian666
    @arupian666 День тому +1

    1:50... there's the problem. Buy Astell & Kern = problem solved.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  День тому

      @@arupian666 I have tested a few Astell & Kern DAP’s but for the most part just with headphones. The SP2000 sounded really good but I never had the chance to try it out with my car audio system.
      I tried the SR15, 25 and the old Khan in my system and they were all mediocre. The FiiO M17 is still the best DAP I have tested in my vehicle but I will buy another flagship DAP this year. Will see what Astell and Kern bring out later this year or early next year to beat the SP3000

  • @Rezzzn0r
    @Rezzzn0r Місяць тому +1

    Thank you. I bought Fiio Q15 few months ago and it still has issues fiio promised to resolve long time ago. I am not buying anything from that company ever again.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      What’s wrong with the Q15?

    • @Rezzzn0r
      @Rezzzn0r Місяць тому

      @@CarAudioHorizons PEQ (one of the main selling features of this device) doesn't work properly. People on headfi keep complaining, fiio keeps saying it's working on that.

  • @Brian-fh8pq
    @Brian-fh8pq Місяць тому +2

    what a shame really. was looking for something to replace my OG m11

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      The og M11 is better than most of the DAP’s Fiio is bringing out of late. I’m sure they will fix this in an update.

  • @Drakken2030
    @Drakken2030 Місяць тому +1

    I think I'm going to stick to using my phone with a dongle with the power that some of these dongles are putting out you don't really need a Dap anymore

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      If you have a DSP then your phone with an SMSL PO100 Pro works excellent

  • @jimpresentation
    @jimpresentation Місяць тому +1

    salut j'attent que ce bestiau arrive en France il est dis 6 a/10 jours c'est mon premier baladeur audiophile j'espère ne pas être déçu j'espère que la mise a jour est correcte et j'espère qu'il y aura des mises a jour comme les smartphone régulièrement

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      Read my pinned comment. Also I will have the Review out shortly.

  • @OlliPaavilainen-sl7xy
    @OlliPaavilainen-sl7xy Місяць тому +3

    sounds like internet buffering problem.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +2

      All the music is downloaded and has nothing to do with the internet.

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM Місяць тому +1

      What internet? It only has Wifi chip. There'e no cellular modem in it. So, therefore - when it's not connected to a Wifi network - it's a offline device 90% of the time.

  • @NoahBershatsky
    @NoahBershatsky Місяць тому +1

    Every FiiO DAP I’ve tried, I’ve been quite unhappy with.
    I’ve owned two HiBy DAPs the R6 III and the R8 II and they work much better than other brands I’ve used including FiiO, Sony, and iBasso.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому

      I personally like the original M11 and the M17, although the M17 took a while for me to warm up to its sound signature. Ever since the M11s I’m not sure what Fiio is doing. It’s unfortunate that a lot of the other companies don’t offer a proper coaxial digital out like a full size one that’s on the M17. This is what most car audio guys are going to use and Fiio is one of the few that offer it but no longer include the adapter and since they don’t include the adapter the sound quality I find has been inferior

  • @justinmerrill3548
    @justinmerrill3548 Місяць тому +2

    Could just be software issues they need to work out. Update firmware then troubleshoot it. Unfortunately we live in this day and age of not everything works correctly out of the box.

    • @topandrun126
      @topandrun126 Місяць тому +2

      Would you consider reviewing the Ifi xdsd gryphon?

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      I take it you never watched the video 😂

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +2

      @@topandrun126 That’s pretty old, I’m just looking for new products

    • @topandrun126
      @topandrun126 Місяць тому +1

      @CarAudioHorizons I'm sorry I originally talking about the XDUOO XD05 Pro and not the gryphon. I did had the gryphon It is a extremely clean dac when connected it to my vehicle. I returned it because it didn't had enough power to drive my over headphones in my opinion.

    • @CarAudioHorizons
      @CarAudioHorizons  Місяць тому +1

      @@topandrun126 I will check that out as I see it’s on Amazon.
      It’s too bad on DSP’s they don’t have a bypass DAC option even though it’s more than the DAC’s that provide the sound signature

  • @oviandre
    @oviandre Місяць тому +2

    just return it