This felt timely for today. 🥰 I've never seen bb Jesus so stately! lol. I can't imagine Mary or Jesus feeling the need to dress so elaborately - this feels more like us making Him in our image than the other way around... The analysis at the end with information about the Rococo style were validating to that end. The details and skill of the artist are definitely impressive, though. 😅 I've seen the "globus cruciger" before - associated with Popes, I believe? - but have never heard its name until now. What a name it is! The box sea edit was great. 😂
in Mexico the Christ Child or Divino Niño is still dressed in "modern" clothing" on February 2nd so you can find it as a Doctor, lawyer, soccer player, etc, even dressed as other saints if the household (every family has one because Nativity scenes are a thing between December and February) doesn't want him wearing a "ropón" for whatever reason
@@jonnieinbangkok unless you count San Judas Tadeo usual look or any other tunic in cheap poli-satin as such I don't think so. There's certainly no stars of David or any other overtly Jewish symbols
it's actually the same in Eastern Orthodox icons (robed and even sandalled, the latter which was the case of the Perpetual Help), in the same vein of pre-Renaissance depictions of the infant Jesus as basically a physical man-child
Do I understand correctly, that this painting was based on an actual statue that is still in Veracruz or Caracas? I would love to see what the statue looks like these days. I googled around for it and couldn't find anything that looked remotely like the painting, so I'm wondering if it's a matter of it's been extremely altered or no longer exists.
The closest I could find is la "Virgen de Guía" that is in Gran Canaria, that statue has a similar story of its finding and more importantly a similar frame on her face. To everyone else who might read this I apologize in advance for the lenght The important things to remember when dealing with religious statues in general is: First, that most of the life-size religious statues are made to be "dressed" so the parure and the clothing can be changed regularly, so even if it still exists it won't look exactly the same. The clothing obviously deteriorates over time, besides it's changed at least once a year for the main holiday pertaining the statue and the parure can be upgraded if something mayor happens (like the particular depiction being given an extra tittle within the place of residence, or a miraculous intercession to someone wealthy enough to afford adding jewels to the set or just changing the whole thing) Second, in America, the artist of the time weren't usually as preoccupied with the same level of realism as their European counterparts so the factions on the painting might not look exactly the same as those of the sculpture Third, with colonization is not difficult to find that one representation of the Virgin Mary finds its way across the ocean and becomes as, if not more, important than the one in Europe while getting its own story of a miraculous apparition that separates her from the original (see the Virgin of Guadalupe which also exist in Spain and was brought to México by Hernan Cortez as a statue only to later appear to Juan Diego and cement her status as the Empress of America, the name remains in both but not the depiction) so maybe the one in Gran Canaria is not that different Finally the video does say the statue is in Caracas but as you also found out apparently there's no photographs of it online, not even on the FB page of the church in question (which I've already contacted 'cause i'm also interested, I'll update)
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This felt timely for today. 🥰
I've never seen bb Jesus so stately! lol. I can't imagine Mary or Jesus feeling the need to dress so elaborately - this feels more like us making Him in our image than the other way around... The analysis at the end with information about the Rococo style were validating to that end. The details and skill of the artist are definitely impressive, though. 😅
I've seen the "globus cruciger" before - associated with Popes, I believe? - but have never heard its name until now. What a name it is!
The box sea edit was great. 😂
I had forgotten about our little storm tossed box, it still makes me smile.
@@smarthistory-art-history 😂❤️ As it ought! I didn't see it coming and am sure the voyagers didn't either.
Pretty funny how the artists depicts the Christ Child as a 17th century dandy.
in Mexico the Christ Child or Divino Niño is still dressed in "modern" clothing" on February 2nd so you can find it as a Doctor, lawyer, soccer player, etc, even dressed as other saints if the household (every family has one because Nativity scenes are a thing between December and February) doesn't want him wearing a "ropón" for whatever reason
@@hectorrobertocontrerasmiranda Do they ever dress their statues as a First Century Aramaic Jew ✡
@@jonnieinbangkok unless you count San Judas Tadeo usual look or any other tunic in cheap poli-satin as such I don't think so. There's certainly no stars of David or any other overtly Jewish symbols
and Mary herself in Elizabethan-ish dress, as if that was as far back as they could go
it's actually the same in Eastern Orthodox icons (robed and even sandalled, the latter which was the case of the Perpetual Help), in the same vein of pre-Renaissance depictions of the infant Jesus as basically a physical man-child
I like that shes holding him like a doll haha
Do I understand correctly, that this painting was based on an actual statue that is still in Veracruz or Caracas? I would love to see what the statue looks like these days. I googled around for it and couldn't find anything that looked remotely like the painting, so I'm wondering if it's a matter of it's been extremely altered or no longer exists.
The closest I could find is la "Virgen de Guía" that is in Gran Canaria, that statue has a similar story of its finding and more importantly a similar frame on her face.
To everyone else who might read this I apologize in advance for the lenght
The important things to remember when dealing with religious statues in general is:
First, that most of the life-size religious statues are made to be "dressed" so the parure and the clothing can be changed regularly, so even if it still exists it won't look exactly the same. The clothing obviously deteriorates over time, besides it's changed at least once a year for the main holiday pertaining the statue and the parure can be upgraded if something mayor happens (like the particular depiction being given an extra tittle within the place of residence, or a miraculous intercession to someone wealthy enough to afford adding jewels to the set or just changing the whole thing)
Second, in America, the artist of the time weren't usually as preoccupied with the same level of realism as their European counterparts so the factions on the painting might not look exactly the same as those of the sculpture
Third, with colonization is not difficult to find that one representation of the Virgin Mary finds its way across the ocean and becomes as, if not more, important than the one in Europe while getting its own story of a miraculous apparition that separates her from the original (see the Virgin of Guadalupe which also exist in Spain and was brought to México by Hernan Cortez as a statue only to later appear to Juan Diego and cement her status as the Empress of America, the name remains in both but not the depiction) so maybe the one in Gran Canaria is not that different
Finally the video does say the statue is in Caracas but as you also found out apparently there's no photographs of it online, not even on the FB page of the church in question (which I've already contacted 'cause i'm also interested, I'll update)
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An 18th century Christ child. Such a shock!!