Beeline Moto: Everything You Need To Know!
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
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Correction: Beeline isn't actually powered by Google Maps, but Mapbox. But soon they will be using Beeline's own motorcycle optimised routing, starting in the UK.
That is really good to know, for us antigooglers :D
I REALLY can‘t wait for it to be implemented in Switzerland as well. The maps are just SO BAD here :( it is barely useable if you already don‘t have a clear idea where you should go…
If there's one feature I wish they could add it would be fixed camera warnings. Waze does it nicely in their app. It would be nice if Beeline could add a simple alert based on proximity to the camera location.
How have you been getting on with the Tiger?
You forgot to demo my favourite feature which is where you set the rout planning to avoid highways!
If I may ask, does this work in other countries and do you perhaps have any idea about shipping? More specifically, shipping to Vietnam. Your help is appreciated.
This video was one of the "sellers" for me getting a Beeline. And, I'm happy to report. I like it a lot. However, it does have some quirks that I've learned to live with and other newcomers need to be aware of.
1. Routes and Journeys. Not sure why they separate these as two different things. You just need to know that journeys are driven routes and have to be saved as routes, in order to be able to drive them or replan or "improve" them again.
2. Beeline could have also allowed the saved route name to be carried over to the journey name, when finishing the route (to make it a journey). Instead, you get "morning, lunch, afternoon or evening ride" as a predetermined title. Why that is? I don't know. A very small PITA in the overall cool tool it is though. I'd like to see the name of my saved route come up as the journey name too.
3. When planning be sure of your way points!!!!! Drill down as far as you can to look at where the waypoint is placed. If you happened to quickly poke a waypoint into your planning and in a town or village, it might look like it's on the road you want to travel with the map zoomed out, but it might be on a side road and then Beeline will obviously try to get you there. And, it tries very hard. You'll be going "WTF Beeline" and it's not Beeline's fault. So, always, and I mean always!!!! drill down to your waypoints as far as you can and make sure it's on the road you wish to travel. Even better, don't put waypoints in towns or villages, if you don't want to stop in them.
4. There is no indication of hitting a way point. I'd love to see some indication I've hit a waypoint. More on that later....
5. Beeline will try to turn you around, if you miss a waypoint (like from point 3) or a planned turn on your route with rerouting on. So, let's say you are on a country road and you miss your turn onto another country road. Beeline will show the arrow going backwards and "hollow". This is the "you missed your turn (or waypoint) idiot" signal. And, once you enter the next town or village, it will start pointing you to the side roads to get you turned around, however it won't be showing you anything telling you it's trying to turn you around. So, if you just happened to not be paying attention to the Beeline, all of the sudden it's trying to get you down some side-road in a town (and you are thinking WTF?), that means it is trying to get you back onto the original route. Either you need to stop, get your phone out and look at what happened, or follow Beeline blindly and go..... backwards. This can be frustrating. Especially if you intententially wanted to change the route to get to your last stop faster, because you knew you planned in some extra twisties, but now need to avoid them. What you then need to do in this case is get through the town and back onto the country road and wait until you see Beeline tell you to continue forward/on. Then the rerouting for that new more direct route is calculated. I wish Beeline would just reroute completely toward my goal, even if it takes longer, instead of trying to get me turned around. I usually don't care if it takes longer and if I miss a turn, maybe I purposely wanted to do that too. Just keep me going forward, don't make be "back up". Maybe we could call this the "hybrid mode" between the compass mode and the full route mode?
6. In driving into low level sunlight, and yet it's still too bright for the backlighting to turn on, it is almost impossible to read the display. I'd wish the level of turning on the back lighting would be set to something a bit higher (or lower?). I mean, unless it's really bright out, turn on the backlighting. Or let me set what threshold of lighting it should turn on at. Ok, I could turn it on all the time. But, that defeats having a sensor, right (and saving some battery life)?
7. There is no app for a web browser for planning on the PC. The app's own planning tool isn't bad to work with on a phone, but I'd like to see that better overview and also quicker planning I can do on the PC with a mouse and also surfing faster for nice places to go to. There is the roundabout path to go into an app like Calimoto to plan the route, to then to export a GPX file and load it into Beeline. But, that is cumbersome. I wish they had a PC/ Browser app.
8. Lastly, I can't plan a route with multiple stops (not waypoints, but places I want to actually stop at). I have to plan separate routes. This isn't a huge problem, but then it means I have multiple journeys in one day. Also not a problem either, but over time, you can't tell what "full journeys" you rode in a single day, without having to look at the actual dates. They get all jumbled up into "months of journeys" and thus, going back to possibly re-riding the journey becomes more difficult, especially if you diverted purposely from the planned route. You then have to go and resave the journey as a route (again, why I don't understand the difference....) I'd like to see "stops" as a form of waypoint in my routes and show me the waypoints/ stops in the display, when I reach them. Maybe show me a quick update in longer sections of following a road, toggle between distance to next WP (waypoint) or ST(stop). And please count down just before reaching them too.
So, that's enough. I could get really niggly about certain things, but all in all, Beeline makes riding and more importantly, exploring your ride, fun. It's not a full navi. And I think if you take it for that "let's go riding to somewhere for fun" purpose, you won't be disappointed!
I've sent these to Beeline as suggestions too. They are very open to such feedback, which is really cool!
This person is pure salesman, this man cleverly hidden the cons of this device, this video is not a review video, it is a sales video
I’m in Australia & have had mine MB for about the same time. I have mentioned this to you via another UA-cam vid you did ages ago. I 100% to the ease of use & absolute simplicity! One of the best bike gadgets you can buy.👍🏼😎🇦🇺
The thing about saving favorite destinations is that if I go there frequently then I know how to get there without nav.
Not always from the current place that you are at though.
What an absolutely amazing little device. The compass setting sounds like a ton of fun! Thanks!
Nice video and review. I am jealous of seeing you riding around Bristol in November. Winter is here in Canada and have had to winterized the bike for 5 months. Enjoying your vids. Thanks.
Great review. I've got one too as I don't like having my phone out on the bars and don't want too much information in front of me. I've got a few observations on where I find it a bit tricky to use:
- Due to the design it only shows the next junction so if you have got turns one after the other you can end up in the wrong lane after the first turning
- If there are two junctions right next to each other it can be difficult to know which one to take
- Roundabouts - on the approach to a lot of roundabouts it shows that you have got to bear left. This is due to the typical layout of roundabouts with an island between the two sides of the road on the approach. It then isn't until you get to the roundabout you get shown which exit you need. I believe this is more to do with the mapping and how it is presented but is something that could be worked on.
On the plus side I really like the form factor and the app is really good at route planning, it is so easy to put in a start and end point and then manipulate the route in between to get the exact route you want. I recently used it on a couple of weekend trips covering over 500 miles each and it was really handy it just sits there unobtrusively. I have got mine on a short extension bar as I found having it right down on the bars in the middle slightly more difficult to read while negotiating junctions and traffic.
Agree with you on that, especially in regards to the roundabouts! Bonus is it makes me alert at roundabouts. Near where I live EVERYONE takes the outside lane of all roundabouts, no matter what exit they are taking, bloody nightmare!
Yeah, I think you can't really use it as a nav per se, but rather a helpful backup to remember an entire route (like the old days where you had the study the map before any journey)
I've had mine since they launched and I love it. A couple of things I'm hoping they add, (they have said they are looking to add them) are a free ride option so I can just ride, then review and save. The other is a quick way of cancelling waypoints if you have to miss them for any reason (it tries to keep taking you back to the missed waypoint) These are small niggles on an otherwise great little nav device
Ability to connect to Waze would be great.
Agree with simons comments, great bit of kit that make you focus on the journey, but my old eyes sometimes struggle with things like roundabout exit numbers...I like the other idea of mounting it on a stalk so it's a bit closer!!
I really like it, gets my phone off the bars and stops any distractions. And agree that it also aids your own natural path finding rather than blindly following a sat nav.
I went on a 10 day tour around the Highlands without using my phone once - i preppanned a variety routes using Tomtom online planner for free and then emailed the files to my phone and they opened up straight away in the Beeline app. Really simple.
Two things that irk - if you miss a turning it can be very long-winded about getting you back on track. It would also be really good if it showed an eta - it’s on the app, why not on the device?
Great review as always
As someone who has used nothing but just the smart phone to navigate across state lines in the USA, I have been looking at different navigational tools. I don't want a Garmin because of price and unnecessary gadgetry. I watched Fort9's navigational video and the Sonim XP8 with removable batteries looks like a good option. My preferred app is to use Waze and avoid Motorways for back country motorcycling goodness, but the Beeline seems to have a lot of similar features to Waze. Thank you for making a video that covered as much info on this gadget in a short amount of time. As a Triumph owner and rider, I will ask about the Beeline at my dealership when my next maintenance interval comes up.
Very much agree with the review. Have one and love it. I like that I do not get distracted with other phone notifications etc. It's simple, a glance provides all necessary info. Love the battery life.
I was as well considering mounting my cell phone. But then it would need a expensive setup (e.g. quadlock) with the vibration damper, plus charging. And then there are still phone overheating issues (West Coast USA). At that point the Beeline pays for itself.
Brilliant review - particularly the comments about navigation vs typical robotic satnav user experience. Plus I’ve never got on with the two Garmins that I’ve bought. Great sounding product. Perfect for my motorbike and my new ebike! That’s straight to the top of my Santa list! Thanks. 👍🏽
I've been considering one for a while and love the minimalism on the dash. I've downloaded the app and tried it using the arrow mode on the phone and it was faultless once you're used to the UI. I just wish it could give you a sound alert to prompt you to look at it when there's a turn coming up. I don't need the full voice prompts but if Beeline are listening, that would be a useful feature and I'd definitely buy one then. Great review BTW !!
This is what I don’t understand though. I bought the beeline Moto for my speed triple because of the small tidy design. Then when I got I downloaded the free app, started the navigation and saw that it had the arrow display option on my phone. Now, why did I just spend $250+ for this device when the app does the same thing and I can have one less thing connected? I still like the look of the little Beeline device but kind of a let down that I could just have a quad lock and use the same simplistic nav option.
@@Inthewind24 I think the point is to not have your phone on the handlebars.
@@Inthewind24 long navigator battery life, not wasting your phone's battery, way smaller which means it will fit along other accessories, less distractions since there are no phone notifications, and depending on which part of the world you are in less temptation for people who would try to take your phone from the mount but has no idea what this is, which actually applies to most places in the world.
Nice review, I love my beeline it’s navigation that actually makes a journey even more enjoyable. I get lost however it gets me back on track and it all adds to the adventure.
I really like the tap-to-make-a-route feature. I always find myself fighting with traditional nav systems where we disagree about the route I want to take ;-)
Also, I just enjoyed seeing many of my old haunts in Bristol. Good to see the Buttery is still going :-D
Nice video. Biggest problem I have with this is how small it is - looks good on the bike, but very difficult to read when on the go. Not only because it's so small, but also because the screen just isn't bright or contrasty enough. I also find it pretty easy to miss turns. Better than nothing, I suppose, but not nearly as nice to use as a proper map-display satnav.
already on my to buy list! I started motorcycling last year and was always on the search for a phone mount or a small gps for my handlebars, but I just found the winner!
Had mine for 6 months and mixed functionality in/ around Glasgow with 1 major roundabout given as a junction and slow response so exits missed. Used it for a trip up north and it was better.
Agree with comments on knowing where you're going, since if a diversion is in place, it will circle you back to where you diverted and doesn't learn to reroute you unless you stop and select a different destination yourself to bypass the diversion.
But the minamilist look and function I do appreciate over a full sat nav, although price is quite high and will hopefully reduce as sales volume increases.
Really considering this for my rides.
Most of my riding will be in a city I pretty much no like back of hand. Having a traffic workaround on the fly like Waze embedded or connectivity would be amazing.
I've been using a Beeline since the beginning of the year (family b'day present), the prompts take a little bit of getting used to, especially at complex junctions, but I really am super impressed with mine, as you say, much more engaging than a Sat Nav. I used mine to ride 2000 miles up to Scotland and back in September (no Motorways) and it got me through some horrible towns and city's. I planned all those routes on google, converted each days routes to GPX files and imported them... there are a few issues with using that method, but you soon figure them out. I also had a little prompt list of towns and roads in my tank bag, exactly as you suggested. Next spring I am off to tour Wales for five days and then probably the Crieff Cloverleaf later in the year... all using the Beeline.
Seeing you've stated you took many backroads and all, would you recommend Beeline for someone in India?
How was your Wales trip, btw? :)
I was quite sceptical about these, thinking it would be too much of a drain on my phone's battery or simply not clear enough, but I decided to buy one before a full day in the saddle exploring mid Wales and I was surprised how useful and easy to follow it was. It's certainly no replacement for a dedicated Sat Nav or even your phone, but on bikes where mounting a large device simply isn't possible / realistic, then it's fantastic.
I managed to use the sticky arm mount on my faired Thruxton R to install it behind the clocks and it looks very neat and tidy. A perfect location from a visibility point of view and almost OEM looking.
I'd certainly recommend one for anyone wanting a subtle navigation aid.
what about the phone's battery drain?
@@smnfrb I've not found it to be that detrimental to be honest. Battery life is far better than running maps on the phone and the battery life of the Beeline itself is excellent. Almost too good because I so rarely charge it it's easy to forget before a long ride!
Thank you so much for explaining what this little devise does - i was looking at gps,s and saw this but knew nothing about how it works & now I know so thanks 🙏
I have had one of these for a couple of years. I much prefer it than having my phone mounted on, worried about the vibrations damaging the phone camera or something. If anyone is thinking of getting one, download the app, plot route, and use the “arrow” mode on the app, same experience but on the phone! I don’t always use it, but basically it’s always in my jacket pocket just incase I want it. Fast forward a couple of years, Royal Enfield have a similar technology on some of their bikes, the tripper navigation I think it’s called. Then just after that, Triumph released their BeeLine edition, I wonder if that was a reaction to RE’s tech.
I saw The Missenden Flyer post a review a number of years ago and I bought one straight away, that’s the power of trusted UA-cam recommendations!
Great great review, thanks!! I love this Beeline Moto. However, I wonder could not the original Triumph connectivity module be suitable so as to have turn by turn indications directly on the TFT in the bikes that allow it? I am really undecided about what choice to make on my Scrambler 1200, why this over the Triumph connectivity module? 🤔
Awesome! Beautiful DESIGN ❤ Thank YOU very much 😊
They still need to change the route options from radio buttons to check boxes, as they aren't mutually exclusive. Hopefully the next update we get!
gorgeous scenery, thanks for the vid. lots of good response in the comments, I'm still on the fence about this vs a full Garmin set up.
Great review as been debating if I get one. Couple questions can you have the clock displayed on it's own and does the data need to be on always if the route has already been selected?
I have been thinking about one of those and your review has probably convinced me to buy one.
So jazzed to try this out! I had no idea it had a speedo feature... something I desperately need on my Ducati.
Just bought one. great vid, very informative. looking forward to using it
Thanks for the reviews, I'm really tempted to put this on my Xmas list. I've heard the legibility in bright light is very good but is that true? Also what happens if you go the wrong way in route mode like taking the wrong exit at a complicated junction for example? Does it 'tell you' or does simply recalculate in the background and keep directing you? Or does it start asking for U turns?
Thanks for the video and review. I am not comfortable having my phone on some sort of gadget that it can fall out of. I will def. be getting one of these.
Nice video goo explained, but if the phone remain without bat and its shut down,the route still run on navi? Tnx
Cheers Rob, just bought one of these because of this. Will hold onto it for a few months and then upgrade to the model II when it comes out.
Great & likely honest review… I have this Beeline on my list for some time but did not proceed yet 😅
i completely removed dash from my bike _(love dat bicycle feel)_ , but one thing i missing a lot is odometer - so this is awesome gadget just right for me, love that minimalism ^-^
Got one and I have to agree with all your comment about the device. Great piece of kit!
Really good video.. helped a lot.. appreciate the effort, very well explained and now I know what to do 😊
For a chilled ride to avoid motorways very convenient and the app is super easy to use.
In the summer when on more smaller roads and technical routes I prefer tomtom go on my phone.
Convenience of beeline is great though and will always get you to your destination if you don’t mind missing a few turns but the re route function works well
Looks like it's a great bit of kit ,I've been looking for something, need something not too complicated to fit I have the kawasaki sx 1000 and im finding the majority of stuff available not easy to install due to the handle bars ,
Lived in Bristol for seven months and it's a beautiful city.
I guess a better position of the device would be closer to your line of sight.
Somewhere on that windshield for example versus looking down like a phone bound cager to get your information.
An even even more less distracted option would be good route voice prompts.
Nothing to look at, nothing to mount with that option.
(You will need soms bluetooth headset off course)
I got one of these as I didn't think a full GPS would look good on my R NineT, It's pretty cool.
Never used one but my concern would be having to keep looking at the thing instead of keeping your eyes on the road, I’ll stick with my sat nav and audio in my helmet for directions, good review non the less.
I bought one in 2021. It worked fine for one season, after that it wouldnt charge anymore. The year it worked it was fantastic. Will consider by a new one, but maybe I try some other GPS first... Not sure.
I wondered what's the thing clamped on the handlebars on every videos.
great honest review, thx for that
Looks so simple and functional. Will it work in Canada my home / North America or is this a UK. only device right now. I find the phone or GPS unit on the bars a distraction more often than it should be.
It's a good piece of kit but I agree it can't replace a full fat satnav for touring but that's not the point of the device. Only downside that nobody seems to mention is that the mapping doesn't always pick-up roundabouts or correct turning number and staggered junctions are a pain as it doesn't respond fast enough. Apart from that good bit of kit for a Sunday ramble.
Great little device. Perfect for motorcycling.
Have had mine for about 2 years and really like it's simplicity, battery life and the fact that it is waterproof. Many of its weaknesses have all been listed below, not great at complex junctions etc. However, it just needs to be a bit bigger and the characters more bold on the screen. That would make it near perfect for me. Oh yes as someone else said, it is very overpriced!
The price to me seems quite reasonable. I was looking at going quadlock, with the anti vibration dampener and mirror mount for my phone, which comes out at £90! Or dedicated Garmin Sat Nav at about £350.
Great review! Thanks...
I have one too. Love it!
Nice work. Many thanks.
My biggest issue with this is the time i'm spending looking down at that small screen. One of the main things you learn in CHP class is keep your eyes on the road. It's life or death. But I'd probably plant this exactly where my phone GPS would be so that's eye level almost. This video certainly makes me curious about this. Maybe I'll be able to test one some day.
Hi Bob can you show us around rocket3 gt connectivity. Cheers Roger from NZ.
Great video.
Thank you.
Does the bee line gps use phone data and does my phone screen has to be on while I am using the navigator
A quick question, Rob. Presumably this is connected via Bluetooth. Do you know, can you run this at the same time as the Triumph App (to receive text messages, not for route finding), or will trying to run the two Bluetooth apps together cause problems? Cheers.
Worth it for the digital speedo if you have a bike that doesn't have one. Definitely sold on this little device
Actually, I am curious about your backpack and photography gear. Which bag are you using and how are you finding it over longer trips. Any guidance?
How long does the battery charge last on a single charge, does it need hard wiring in for long journeys
Hi, when using google maps to plan a route I can choose to omit motorways but not duel carriageways which as a learner is exactly what I want. Can Beeline do this as well (you said highways but is that motorways or duel carriageways or both)
I feel they need to make the bezel smaller so they can increase the size of the screen. I have distance vision so I really struggle to see the details on mine, rendering it all but useless to people with vision like mine.
I have a metal cased one as a backup GPS on loan bikes or on my pushbike. The only gripe I have is that with my Samsung S9+ the beeline really sucks the juice out of phones battery. I am currenly running it on a Honda ADV350 that I bought this monday . Until I have my Tomtom installed on the ADV350...
The Tomtom is installed on my main bike (KTM 890 Adv)
When do you think they will bring in audio?
I have just bought a beeline and have mounted my wing mirror mount, is this waterproof, what happens when I’m out on my motorcycle stop and take my beeline with me and it starts to rain, will the mount fill with water
Any good on highway travel and Europe crossing travel? I'm not into city navigation. Thanks
Could never get mine to work. Gave it back to them!
I bought one, tried it a few times and then my son "nicked" it! Which is fine, he is still new to the freedom of motorbiketrips! He is quite pleased with it, but talks about a "proper" satnav.
He found the Beeline to be a bit too slow in cities (Copenhagen) Maybe that's due to what system he uses on the phone?
I think using a quad lock( with the wireless charging and shock dampener to protect the camera lenses) is more value preposition …being a moto reviewer it might be easy to switch…. After riding the same roads for a while now I do not need a navigation….so only need for newer roads and hence I think a phone is better( or use an older phone as dedicated navigation)….I would prefer a lockable case on the handlebar for this so that it remain on the bike and don’t want to carry this if I bought this just for short rides…
Great video Bob. If I get a Royal Enfield here in Thailand, they come with one of those. Thanks so much.......Sal : )
How does it compare to the Connectivity Navigation AP on the Trident?
I do have one... love it also!!!
do you need to have your phone continuously connected to the device during the trip? or can you plan the route and disconnect it? thanks
It doesn't always seem to be pointing in the direction of the road you're following? How does it cope iif you get lost? Does it re-route?
I own a cb1000r 2021 and Honda decided that displaying turn by turn information in the TFT is dangerous -.- , so Im looking for more information about this device. I understood how the beeline app works but, will it also work if we set up the navigation directly in google maps? Im asking this because i do use a lot the navigation from favorite places on the motorcycle, but it integrates with google maps only (i think). Or if anyone know if its possible to make it work...
my only complaints as a beeline owner is the fact that it isn't possible to import a gpx with a route defined by me without the software trying to re-route and change the initial route. Also at least in my city the bicycle mode is useless as it requires bicycle lane data (a issue that could be easily solved if I could simply use a route from a gpx file)
Great video although my experience is the quite opposite!
I personally think it’s a slick and beautiful navigation device.. But tried it out for 6 weeks and got it back to the store. You will for sure not reach your destination without getting lost! The display is as big as my Garmin watch but half of it is just dead space. Get a phone holder for 1/4 of the price and it will actually get you where you want to go. And if you’re exploring just set a destination and make whichever turn you like and the chosen map-app will reroute in seconds, this thing managed to reroute about 50% of the time, the other 50% it was just spinning like an expensive digital fidget spinner. This is one of the most hiped (or best marketed) mc devices. Spend your money elsewhere.
Hi Man! Do you know which cases are on the bike and where those handles on the top of the cases are from?
So yesterday my oldschool method of Google maps through headphones had to be enployed to keep me on track for a backroad diagonal route back home, but as soon as I started it a few miles into the diagonal route, it then proceeded to make it a big u-turn and put me back on the major road I wanted to avoid!, would this do that?
If you come to a roundabout with like, 5 or 6 exits, how does it tell you which exit to take? The arrow would be too ambiguous in a lot of scenarios
Can you connect it to the Calimoto app? What do you think of the tiger?
Enjoyed the vid, especially the shot of the canyon at the end. Beautiful.
What happens if your phone dies in mid-journey? Will the device continue to work?
Nope.
can you link your phone to a cardo as well as the beeline at same time? thinking I would still need phone on my Cardo for music or call.
Bought this can it work with Sena wanted to use my coms unit with friends while using this and could not get my coms to work would be 5 star if could work with coms units as I ride in a group and want to cumicate with others
Interesting vid... Bought the standard Beeline device more than a year ago & very disappointed, simply does not work in France specially in route mode: loosing heading/waypoints all the time, gives totally false distance, GPS signal erratic, etc ... Took it on a trip down to Italy through Germany & Austria, same issues, awful ... Loaded the app on my sons Samsung's latest model phone as I thought that my 3 years old Sony Xperia was the problem, same hassle ... Seen Henry Crew's videos before I've purchased the device & now really sad as even Beeline support did not want to answer my claims... Probably made only for UK & US riders, as it's not working in Europe.
Thats very interesting, im currently looking at replacing my tomtom450 for a beeline, and I do a lot of long distance across europe
It's funny you refer to the UK as "not Europe"
I live in France and my current Beeline works fine. My first one sometimes got lost and stuck. I told their customer service who said it was probably a calibration issue (I've no idea what that means) and promptly replaced it.
What I need is a mount for smartwatch which can do the same
Loved mine....till it fell off. Wait till they redo the mounting plate.
Off topic, yes, but what gloves are you wearing in this video?
Thx for that introduction. You really helped me come to a decision! Just one question: Can you connect the beeline to multiple mobiles? I'm sharing my bike with my kids but I'm not willing to share my mobile 😅
Yes - but you have to unpair and go through the pairing process with the new phone. It only takes a minute
Will it work with osmand
Does the phone app it uses work with offline maps?
I think a lot of people are missing the point of this device. I like how minimalist it is, I don’t want a 6” satnav and an annoying voice telling me where to turn. Had mine on for six hours on Sunday and phone only dropped about 10% battery. If your leaving the bike anywhere, you can just stick the device in your pocket. You do need to pay a bit more attention to where your going, especially in town or at complicated junctions, but it reroutes fairly well, and worst case, you might have to do a u-turn.
Can it connect with Cardo?
Had one for a while, but struggled with Roy favours and took so many wrong turns. Much happier with my TomTom with the audio instructions in my helmet - that way I don’t need to stare at the satnav screen and can focus on the road.
Battery is terrible on mine and I’m on my 2nd one. Every time I go to use it it’s flat.