Nice review! Thanks for explaining the numbering scheme for the Ryzen CPU's. I consider myself fairly competent when it comes to computer hardware, but there is always something new to learn.
Tech iFixit Notice. Really enjoy these teardown videos. It’s often interesting to see what’s inside the case and how it’s put together. Keep up the great work my friend. 👍🏻🙏🏻
The 7840HS is a monolithic die and would easily support memory speeds up to 8000 MT/s. MiniPC's are highly configurable, upgradable, and easily repairable and the price of a similarly configured Mac Mini would be 3x as much. If you have or need Mac software then that's your only option otherwise I would choose the miniPC all day long, and even though Microsoft is continually making Windows an unbearable data harvester and advert generator.
How is the fan noise profile? Mac minis are dead silent. Is this mini OC silent? I previously bought a SER5 max from the same company and the fan noise was unbearably loud.
I got one, ngl its great for such a small device - doesn't replace my monster build main pc, but its fantastic at work. Fits into a small hardcase into my bag and outperforms the crappy corporate laptop 1000 fold. If I'm ever stuck away from my main monitors out in the field, or another office space and I need to do something that would overwhelm my work laptop, I just need a power socket for the PC (or a beefy 120w portable powerbank) and I connect my USB-C portable touch screen monitor to the mini PC. Got that mini PC on sale for under $700AUD. Bargain. Will later upgrade the RAM to higher MHz cards but even then... as it is now is pretty damn good.
If you compare with Mac, I think you should expand the tests to include Davinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere because people will often buy Mac Mini for this software. I suspect that a Mac mini with 16GB RAM may be much faster than this mini PC in video software tests.
I agree with the additional tests but doubt the 16gb mac would be much faster based on testing people in various forums have done. With 32 the gap gets wider but then you are talking $1500+ compared to a system you can actually swap parts in that costs $600 so it's quite the apple orange comparison. Personally I'm hoping Nvidia or AMD or whoever comes out with some decent desktop ARM offerings sooner rather than later even if it won't be as tight software integration as Apple can mange, but who knows if that will be anytime soon.
@@lllongreenbetter performance, lower bills. The software will probably be better optimized with time since they wont have to worry about 100000000 different hw configurations
@@lllongreen It's something of an apples oranges comparison but the main thing is ARM is designed to be efficient at lower power but that doesn't mean it can't scale up with more cores. Apple silicon is a decent example of ARM performing as well as or outperforming x86 at a lot of things at lower power in desktop settings and hopefully there will be non SOC options so things like GPU's and what not are also options.
@@lllongreen i also like silent computers. So less heat means more silent operation. Im also curious if we will see a whole new wave of competition. I do think Intel will step up its game. They launched the ultra CPUs but they are mostly focused on power consumption improvements. The next wave will probably also focus on performance.
@@maartenmidden1651 I actually miss the old days with the noisy hard drives, etc. You didn't need to look over at the computer to know it was doing something or when rendering was finished.
well.. Geekom has the A8 now as well, (same performance) but yeah, definitely both good options, geekom feels more premium quality, but this Trigkey has better cooling and abit bigger. I belive Geekom A7/8 have better IO as well though, but this Trigkey has better upgrade options (M.2) for example, hope this helps?
@TechNotice using USB4 type c you can par your mini pc with External graphic card , turn off internal M780 and than most likely you will be able to run PBO with Cine R23 , PBO have restriction on Bord and Socket power draw per specify power draw of particular CPU , so you know 65w series 95w , 125w etc... So if your turn of Integrated Graphic card , the chip draw less power there for your PBO should not trip overcurrent protection especially if you play with PBO settings like Curve optimizer and per core undervolteing that could be great next video for You :) , Good luck man and great review. I am considering Minisforum AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS Mini PC--NucBox for my mother , specially that she retired now and she dont use PC as much and full tower takes space etc , and that you can plug to her 65inch oLed Tv and she can have fun from couch position xD
Did you see the new Windows Surface pro 11? with the Snapdragon X Elite???? Would that actually be the best edition ARM "PC" with two big screens connected?
I guess I just don't understand where people are coming from when they make a claim like this. I want high performance, but only to run the OS I prefer and the applications I need. So regardless of how great this is, it isn't a Mac Mini killer. It can't run my OSX software. Why make that comparison at all? Doesn't the machine have it's own merits? Is it a killer mini for people who want and need Windows or Linux? Isn't that what makes it a really great system? Before going off the rails, please understand I'm not claiming any superiority of Mac over Windows or any of that tired out nonsense. I'm just disagreeing with the blanket claim that this is an unqualified Mac Mini killer. It isn't.
I think it makes a great TV multimedia / some gaming(? Im no gamer) PC for streaming if you dont like your TV collecting your data (1 source is enough), so you just use the PC as your TV source input. Run the audio to your amplifier, and use a wireless keyboard/mouse combo/remote.
It would cost Trigkey almost nothing to make the computer also able to use 22110 SSDs. They would just have to make a removable screw post that can be moved 30mm further away from the M.2 connector. Just a thought.
That’s your choice, but the noise of this thing under load might be quite terrible(a used to have a NUC so i suspect something similar), this video conveniently did not even mention that, as well as GPU benchmarks.
My dear friend, could you make a comparison between the mouse you have (Asus Md300) and Logitech MX Master 3S? I don't know which one to choose! I would be very grateful!
Looks like a good'n, thanks for the teardown. As a non-techie I've also come across the Beelink SER7 but can't figure out why it's so much more expensive? Bigger brand name?
These minipcs (glad they kept a displayport out) would work for my use case IF they were silent or exceptionally quiet. Are there any Ryzen mini pcs that specialize in this? I haven’t seen any so for. And as expensive as the mac mini is, at least it is engineered to be quiet.
yes, because it is small, that makes it a replacement for a Mac with MacOS..... get real dude. People don't buy Mac mini for the size. they buy it for the Ecosystem and OS.
It's good to have a choice. Either the Apple Cult spies on you, or the Chinese government does. I'm still looking for a mini pc that is made in Taiwan, or another country outside China, and preferably one that runs very cool.
I've said this a hundred times.... unless this can run MacOS, it is not going to replace the Mac Mini. People who buy the Mac Mini buy them because they like MacOS and not Windows. Or, they are sunk deep into the Apple ecosystem. I use a MinisForum computer (which did replace my Mac Mini) but I don't really care what OS I use as long as it supports the programs I need to run. :D
to run MacOs (Hackintosh) You'd have to use an external gpu that is supported. The one which you can use with the internal dgpu is the Hx100g which has a 6650m radeon and same cpu as his one.
That is the entire point. Some use cases call for the compute without portability. The laptop sharply reduces the expandability and upgradability. Some will have a farm of these low power and high compute machines. Makes no sense in laptop form factor.
Rule of thumb if you buy any chinese brand mini pcs do a wipe and fresh install a new os before using it to avoid any potential malwares/viruses in your system.
You have an extra NVME slot. You could use an oculink adapter with that. The icying on the cake is that the extra slot has an adapter so while this unit doesn’t official has Oculink it is very easy to modify it to have one.
Nah. I’ve had a few of these mini pc’s and they aren’t that great, even with various flavors of Linux or BSD. I’d take a Mac mini any day over one of these. Waste of money.
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@@theTechNotice In the fute im planing to buy mini pc. i just dont know how to connect my xbox and mini pc to single monitor with a keyboard and mouse. im planing this setup for long time. can you please make a video about it if you can :)
Nice review! Thanks for explaining the numbering scheme for the Ryzen CPU's. I consider myself fairly competent when it comes to computer hardware, but there is always something new to learn.
you disassembled the unit , that alone put,s you above many other reviewers of these tiny pc,s , great job, now start modding it XD , great Video Mate
Tech iFixit Notice.
Really enjoy these teardown videos. It’s often interesting to see what’s inside the case and how it’s put together.
Keep up the great work my friend. 👍🏻🙏🏻
Glad you like them!
I have a basic Trigkey green with an n95 cpu and I love it! Great for just browsing the web on my TV! I paid $130 last christmas for it!
The 7840HS is a monolithic die and would easily support memory speeds up to 8000 MT/s. MiniPC's are highly configurable, upgradable, and easily repairable and the price of a similarly configured Mac Mini would be 3x as much. If you have or need Mac software then that's your only option otherwise I would choose the miniPC all day long, and even though Microsoft is continually making Windows an unbearable data harvester and advert generator.
Many laptops with this CPU come actually with 6400MHz DDR5 soldered on modules.
Best PC info channel by far. Oh and the Crucial P3 will break in 6 months
How is the fan noise profile? Mac minis are dead silent. Is this mini OC silent? I previously bought a SER5 max from the same company and the fan noise was unbearably loud.
its running Windows OS so lower downh your expectations
why didn't you try editing some videos with it?
Thank you Lauri.
You are so welcome!
What exactly is it you think that is so much better than x86 with ARM on a no Apple device and no Mac OS ?
I got one, ngl its great for such a small device - doesn't replace my monster build main pc, but its fantastic at work. Fits into a small hardcase into my bag and outperforms the crappy corporate laptop 1000 fold. If I'm ever stuck away from my main monitors out in the field, or another office space and I need to do something that would overwhelm my work laptop, I just need a power socket for the PC (or a beefy 120w portable powerbank) and I connect my USB-C portable touch screen monitor to the mini PC. Got that mini PC on sale for under $700AUD. Bargain.
Will later upgrade the RAM to higher MHz cards but even then... as it is now is pretty damn good.
If you compare with Mac, I think you should expand the tests to include Davinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere because people will often buy Mac Mini for this software. I suspect that a Mac mini with 16GB RAM may be much faster than this mini PC in video software tests.
And costs twice as much right?
No, it wont be much faster with 16gb.
I agree with the additional tests but doubt the 16gb mac would be much faster based on testing people in various forums have done. With 32 the gap gets wider but then you are talking $1500+ compared to a system you can actually swap parts in that costs $600 so it's quite the apple orange comparison. Personally I'm hoping Nvidia or AMD or whoever comes out with some decent desktop ARM offerings sooner rather than later even if it won't be as tight software integration as Apple can mange, but who knows if that will be anytime soon.
@@nadtzand at that price point you can also add egpu to it 😅
@@thelazt16 you beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing.
Great review. Not sure if you mentioned this. Is the NIC intel?
Im looking forward to the arm based windows mini PCs. This looks really great though.
Yeah, same! :)
@@lllongreenbetter performance, lower bills. The software will probably be better optimized with time since they wont have to worry about 100000000 different hw configurations
@@lllongreen It's something of an apples oranges comparison but the main thing is ARM is designed to be efficient at lower power but that doesn't mean it can't scale up with more cores. Apple silicon is a decent example of ARM performing as well as or outperforming x86 at a lot of things at lower power in desktop settings and hopefully there will be non SOC options so things like GPU's and what not are also options.
@@lllongreen i also like silent computers. So less heat means more silent operation. Im also curious if we will see a whole new wave of competition. I do think Intel will step up its game. They launched the ultra CPUs but they are mostly focused on power consumption improvements. The next wave will probably also focus on performance.
@@maartenmidden1651 I actually miss the old days with the noisy hard drives, etc. You didn't need to look over at the computer to know it was doing something or when rendering was finished.
So the TRIGKEY S7 or Geekom A7 for light to medium photoshop work or what else in the mini pcs make would you suggest
well.. Geekom has the A8 now as well, (same performance) but yeah, definitely both good options, geekom feels more premium quality, but this Trigkey has better cooling and abit bigger. I belive Geekom A7/8 have better IO as well though, but this Trigkey has better upgrade options (M.2) for example, hope this helps?
Much better than a Mac and a lot cheaper! Nice video 👍
@TechNotice using USB4 type c you can par your mini pc with External graphic card , turn off internal M780 and than most likely you will be able to run PBO with Cine R23 , PBO have restriction on Bord and Socket power draw per specify power draw of particular CPU , so you know 65w series 95w , 125w etc... So if your turn of Integrated Graphic card , the chip draw less power there for your PBO should not trip overcurrent protection especially if you play with PBO settings like Curve optimizer and per core undervolteing that could be great next video for You :) , Good luck man and great review. I am considering Minisforum AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS Mini PC--NucBox for my mother , specially that she retired now and she dont use PC as much and full tower takes space etc , and that you can plug to her 65inch oLed Tv and she can have fun from couch position xD
Did you see the new Windows Surface pro 11? with the Snapdragon X Elite???? Would that actually be the best edition ARM "PC" with two big screens connected?
I guess I just don't understand where people are coming from when they make a claim like this. I want high performance, but only to run the OS I prefer and the applications I need. So regardless of how great this is, it isn't a Mac Mini killer. It can't run my OSX software. Why make that comparison at all? Doesn't the machine have it's own merits? Is it a killer mini for people who want and need Windows or Linux? Isn't that what makes it a really great system? Before going off the rails, please understand I'm not claiming any superiority of Mac over Windows or any of that tired out nonsense. I'm just disagreeing with the blanket claim that this is an unqualified Mac Mini killer. It isn't.
I think it makes a great TV multimedia / some gaming(? Im no gamer) PC for streaming if you dont like your TV collecting your data (1 source is enough), so you just use the PC as your TV source input. Run the audio to your amplifier, and use a wireless keyboard/mouse combo/remote.
Love mini PCs ... just waiting for AMD to release their ARM based CPUs. That will be my next upgrade.
Brother can you please review the AMD Ryzen 8000G APUs. Like the previous ones please
It would cost Trigkey almost nothing to make the computer also able to use 22110 SSDs. They would just have to make a removable screw post that can be moved 30mm further away from the M.2 connector. Just a thought.
It has 1 less usb 4.0 ports when compared to aoostar or belink or minisforum models
I'll take this over Mac anytime and any place.
That’s your choice, but the noise of this thing under load might be quite terrible(a used to have a NUC so i suspect something similar), this video conveniently did not even mention that, as well as GPU benchmarks.
My dear friend, could you make a comparison between the mouse you have (Asus Md300) and Logitech MX Master 3S? I don't know which one to choose! I would be very grateful!
Should test it again with PBO adjustments into the Negative states, undervolting
Looks like a good'n, thanks for the teardown. As a non-techie I've also come across the Beelink SER7 but can't figure out why it's so much more expensive? Bigger brand name?
Honestly sometimes I have no idea where the prices come from!
what keyboard are you using?
No SATA or 10gbps? Could have been an AMAZING NAS option.
Reset it and it bricked stuck on admidistador mode horrible investment down 450
These minipcs (glad they kept a displayport out) would work for my use case IF they were silent or exceptionally quiet. Are there any Ryzen mini pcs that specialize in this? I haven’t seen any so for. And as expensive as the mac mini is, at least it is engineered to be quiet.
You're comparing ARM vs X86 here. Not exactly fair and a silly statement to make at this point in time.
@@Laughing_Individual no no, he's got a point
Slightly faster for less money from Minisforum... they shipping Ryzen 9 7940HS Radeon 780... about $600 with 1TB NVMe and 32GB ram
Is there any way I can upgrade these devices to Windows 10?
I just got a micro from Dell and it is LOUD and doesn't have any USB C connectors.
sadly that naming convention isn't always true though, my 5560U isn't Gen6
May i know how does it perform in handbrake encoding, h265 4k videos ?
i don't think they can use the m3 chip any more because of the exploit
after 6 months when a new version of this box will appear, what will be its value? will anyone buy it used? how about a used macmini?
name of the keyboard in the video please
And you can still install the latest MacOS with OpenCore
why i cant find this in their website?
Oh c'mon... I was expecting the usual comparisons on creative apps...
the new APPLE M4 CHIP IS QUITE POWERFUL. A M4 MAX MAC STUDIO SHOULD BEAT AN I9 14900K IN BOTH SINGLE CORE AND MULTI CORE.
You dont say wether you bought this yourself or got it for free from the manufacturer?
Are you a happy customer or a paid influencer?
yes, because it is small, that makes it a replacement for a Mac with MacOS..... get real dude. People don't buy Mac mini for the size. they buy it for the Ecosystem and OS.
It's good to have a choice.
Either the Apple Cult spies on you, or the Chinese government does.
I'm still looking for a mini pc that is made in Taiwan, or another country outside China, and preferably one that runs very cool.
can be a good SteamOS box
What about the ports??
Guys, dont buy a mini for more than 500 bucks if it doesnt have an Oculink port!
Can run Mac OS on it which means can’t run Final Cut X so it’s useless
Anyone game world of Warcraft on this? How does it run
Can you test it out with ai work?
nice
indeed!
But it doesn't offer MacOS, which is the only reason why people should get a Mac. For the OS.
had to rent ans anchor to extract this giant hanger
I've said this a hundred times.... unless this can run MacOS, it is not going to replace the Mac Mini. People who buy the Mac Mini buy them because they like MacOS and not Windows. Or, they are sunk deep into the Apple ecosystem. I use a MinisForum computer (which did replace my Mac Mini) but I don't really care what OS I use as long as it supports the programs I need to run. :D
Yeah... Very few like capOS
to run MacOs (Hackintosh) You'd have to use an external gpu that is supported. The one which you can use with the internal dgpu is the Hx100g which has a 6650m radeon and same cpu as his one.
wonder if hackintosh is possible on these mini pc
And ten times as loud as a Mac Mini. No, thank you!
Same model under different brand. Beelink and Trickey
No 2.5Gbe is a deal breaker for me.
I just like I can upgrade my ram for $20 and not $200
The MAC MINI has more powerful graphics is the catch!
Looks like they used asrock 4x4 mobo
can you not realise that in cinebench r24 apple destroys everything?
does it include free virus?
My understanding is that Apple has scrapped the M 3 and will be going straight to the M 4 to b3 available early 1st quarter 2025.
yeah, ive heard something like that also! 🤔
$589.00 at this price point why not add 200$ and get a decent gaming laptop like HP Vectus 15.
this is basically a laptop with no display
That is the entire point. Some use cases call for the compute without portability. The laptop sharply reduces the expandability and upgradability. Some will have a farm of these low power and high compute machines. Makes no sense in laptop form factor.
Which keyboard is that ??
Gamakay LK75 ?
@@n-iiog7512 the ? Means you are asking or confirming ?
The problem with your comparisons will always be one runs Windows the other MacOS. No Mac user is going to care about these products.
Nice
Another no name brand. Does This have a virus in the recovery partition as well?
Rule of thumb if you buy any chinese brand mini pcs do a wipe and fresh install a new os before using it to avoid any potential malwares/viruses in your system.
The case is buttUGLY.
$500? Nah
Oculink or nothing :-)
You have an extra NVME slot. You could use an oculink adapter with that. The icying on the cake is that the extra slot has an adapter so while this unit doesn’t official has Oculink it is very easy to modify it to have one.
This is a bad review and a bad comparison. A paid video.
Aren’t they all? UA-camrs = paid grifters and shills
Apple fan boy comment
@@teteakhiangte6015 Nah is that you a blind fanatic of this dude and maybe if you get a job you can afford to have a custom PC. 🤣
Nah. I’ve had a few of these mini pc’s and they aren’t that great, even with various flavors of Linux or BSD. I’d take a Mac mini any day over one of these. Waste of money.
Pls giveaway 🤞🤞🤞🤞😀😀😀😀
BS! Nothing with Windows on it will defeat a Mac. Next!
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Dropped watching right when you pronounced H as hage.
Or.. You could just but the Mac because Windows is a big pile of crap.
Works fine for me
really great!! 🙌
That is just a normal modern mini pc, amateur
These days the CPU performance is not the bottleneck, it is the GPU and increasingly NPU.
what keyboard are you using?
Gamakay LK75 ?
Intriguing.
thanks!
No problem! Thanks for the comment!
@@theTechNotice In the fute im planing to buy mini pc.
i just dont know how to connect my xbox and mini pc to single monitor with a keyboard and mouse.
im planing this setup for long time.
can you please make a video about it if you can :)