Hat pins during the early 1900s grew to 14 plus inches. During the suffrage movement, police were afraid to break up picketing women for fear of being stabbed. Laws were introduced requiring hat pins to be limited to no more than 8 inches. This also played to the new bob hair style and much smaller hats.
I use a hat pin in my berets as its very windy here in Manchester,England.They are much smaller than the one you are demonstrating and not as beautiful.But I love using them
I kinda wish we still had hatpins. When they were in vogue women also used it as self defence against harassers, especially when travelling alone. I often think of the painting The Irritating Gentleman by Berthold Woltze, and how with art imaging techniques they showed that the girl in the painting was holding a hat pin. There’s something poetic about this hidden hat pin. Like there’s a secret strength to the young girl. Tldr; I really like hat pins
Hat pins still exist just not on a large, mainstream scale. Follow you’re dreams, find a cute hat and a hat pin☺️ or honestly just get a hat pin and attach it to your shirt sleeve or something
It was used for self defence, because women were being assaulted in the streets by men & the cops allowed it. YOU STAB ANYONE WHO ASSAULTS YOU... that’s how it was traditionally used.
@@averycheesypotato no, they were worried they'd be stabbed if they tried to arrest the woman for stabbing a man. We're not talking about the 2000's here.
@@jadecoolness101 The women stabbed men who harassed them, because police were no help. …so we could be talking about literally any point in history that had police, actually
@@averycheesypotato The police were no help because the victims were women and they didn't care. "She was asking for it" was a common mentality, and honestly still is.
I have my great-grandmother's Suffragette hat with the beautiful purple ribbon. The hat-pin is indeed around 15 inches long. I inherited her very thick hair and can sit on it, the hat is so big that it will accommodate most of my hair.
I remember reading about how hat pins were used for self defense. Along with those sticks that go between your boobs down your corset. I forgot what it’s called
Haha. A busk! I have one for my stay that my great gma left me, it was her mother's, ao from around 1880s Hungary. Idk if they called them that there bit that's the only word I know.
So you don’t stab anyone… accidentally. I’m going to need a follow up on that sentence! edit: I love how so far the people below are getting excited about hat pin self defence XD Jill bearup's video is great
Hat pins were sometimes used as self-defense weapons. For example: when women traveled on trains and it went dark, some people would try to harass them under the cover of darkness. Hat pins came in handy there.
Women were expected still to wear hats, it was considered for instance less respectable for a woman to remove her hat in church but men had the opposite.
Personally I put it front to back through my hat and hairdo. Your method makes me feel like the hat will be lifted by the wind every other minute (I live in a windy place) ^^ I also occasionally use two hatpins in different directions to be sure. Great to see hatpins mentioned on UA-cam !
Meh, lock picking is a skill that needs more than a tool to actually work. That said even though I can and sometimes do only put up my hair with a pen, it's no worse than my hair sticks, I do prefer at all times to have a few long bobby pins on me. I don't comprehend how other people with lots of hair think being without bobby pins is a good idea!
My mom works at The Alamo as part of the living history department so she has learned and keeps learning about the fashions around 1830s. She's hoping with the expansions that's happening to be able to show off fashion from earlier and later. She's got around 5 hats and a few hair pins. Her main trouble is that she's got such thick hair.
Thick hair is amazing! It just requires longer pins is all. Find what works for her, thick hair doesn't have to be a deterrent. Tiny pins will get lost in it, but all you have to do is use longer ones. I have a couple of 12 inch hair sticks that could probably double as a tent peg in a pinch but they never get lost in the mass and they do the job.
For those of us with much shorter hair - you can loosely hand sew a bit of elastic thread through the front 1/2 or 2/3 of the inner hat band, then tie the ends together. then, when you put the hat on, stretch that bit of elastic around the back of your head. Holds on great even on windy days, and basically invisible especially if you sorta match the thread to your hair.
For anyone wondering about the “accidentally” part, take a look at some art of the day- namely, “The Irritating Gentleman” by Berthold Woltze. The girl is reaching for her hat pin
Could you please do a look from the 1680s-90s, I would really like to see your take on it, even if it's a little far back I love your videos so much I just happened to stumble upon them and found myself hooked on them.
Never go out walking without your happiness! This was a popular song in the 1890s because men were such CREEPS , women actually had to carry an extra happiness to defend themselves on the subway and streets to keep from being molested. True story.
I love hats and hat pins sadly I don’t have long hair and won’t ever have long hair, so I just pin mine fancy in my hat so it can be seen. It’s not perfect and not very time accurate but I make do.
If you've got a few inches of hair, you might be able to put a tiny elastic in your hair to stab the pin under. Not historically accurate, but it would secure your jar
If you want you hair down crossing Bobby pins or a small braid (I other do two small one on either side join together at the back either in a hair band or as one braid) can also make for anchor point for hat pins. I use a couple to hold on my huge sun hat when in wind situations. What mention you pick to create anchor point depending on the hat and wether you know you will need to take it off, braids look much neater than random booby pins.
so, I suddenly realize that I know everything about hatpins even though this is the first time in 50 something years I am hearing the word "hatpin" spoken. My grandmother never left the house without a hat and me, the tallest boy, was always the one roped into making sure the pin was properly in and the cap properly screwed on ...or pushed when hey got those new fangled ones.
They're cute, but I just use whatever jewelry I have laying around.... It decorates my hat to whatever the day's style is, weighs down my hat so it doesn't blow away, and my hat is easier to remove quickly when necessary. So while I do have a bunch of hat pins, I use them for other stuff, like pinning a too low-cut blouse or a quick skirt pleat. I always thought they were a pain when used for the thing they're actually made for. Lol
I also learned that in this dreamtime. The length of hat pins could not exceed a certain length so that it could not be used as an item of self-defense or as a weapon.
In those olden days, hair was longer. So buns were very thick and high on the head. The hats were also much bigger. So the hat pin had to go through them all. If you had a thick braid in your bun, you don't need a very long hat pin. Modern women of today have shorter hair. Princess Diana had short hair. She had little combs sewn into her hats. You can do this with your hats, whatever types and size, and the hat will be secure.
I was wearing a hat the other day when it got windy, my hat flow off on to the road. I had not heard about hat pins before this short I said why can't I clip this on to my hair So now I'm getting hatpins x
My mother told the story of her high school banning hat pins and metal nail files, in the early 1960s. And how upset my grandmother was that girls were being robbed of defensive tools.
Going to a car show and it was like extreme record wins and I had to use to have pins and I’m so glad I had both of them with me. Didn’t think I needed them but by the end of the night I kept my hair up that it started raining and I am really glad I had my hat pins
Do you have a tutorial on the hairdo that you are wearing here? You look lovely and it suit you so much. I got some hairpins last year but still haven't got a nice hat, need to find one soon 😊
My grandma used to tell stories about how she was sure her mom and aunts were sticking their hat pins into their heads, and how she didn’t understand how they could do it without screaming or crying.
Hat pins during the early 1900s grew to 14 plus inches. During the suffrage movement, police were afraid to break up picketing women for fear of being stabbed. Laws were introduced requiring hat pins to be limited to no more than 8 inches. This also played to the new bob hair style and much smaller hats.
Very interesting!
Thanks for the info 😊
Ah yes because an 8 inch hatpin will do so much less damage than 14 inches 😂
I use a hat pin in my berets as its very windy here in Manchester,England.They are much smaller than the one you are demonstrating and not as beautiful.But I love using them
They okay being stabbed with 8 inches????
I kinda wish we still had hatpins. When they were in vogue women also used it as self defence against harassers, especially when travelling alone. I often think of the painting The Irritating Gentleman by Berthold Woltze, and how with art imaging techniques they showed that the girl in the painting was holding a hat pin. There’s something poetic about this hidden hat pin. Like there’s a secret strength to the young girl. Tldr; I really like hat pins
I mean, we can still use hair pins a la Villanelle
Hat pins still exist just not on a large, mainstream scale. Follow you’re dreams, find a cute hat and a hat pin☺️ or honestly just get a hat pin and attach it to your shirt sleeve or something
I make them out of crystals. I live in Oklahoma and the wind here is brutal. And I keep mine sharp, sooo
I've never been to an antique shop that didn't have some. Happy hunting! 😊
@@GTaichou lucky!
It was used for self defence, because women were being assaulted in the streets by men & the cops allowed it. YOU STAB ANYONE WHO ASSAULTS YOU... that’s how it was traditionally used.
The cops didn't allow it necessarily, they just didn't want to get stabbed themselves.
@@jadecoolness101 Police were worried they would be stabbed by a hat pin if they tried to help a woman…?
That’s not quite it
@@averycheesypotato no, they were worried they'd be stabbed if they tried to arrest the woman for stabbing a man. We're not talking about the 2000's here.
@@jadecoolness101 The women stabbed men who harassed them, because police were no help.
…so we could be talking about literally any point in history that had police, actually
@@averycheesypotato The police were no help because the victims were women and they didn't care. "She was asking for it" was a common mentality, and honestly still is.
I have my great-grandmother's Suffragette hat with the beautiful purple ribbon. The hat-pin is indeed around 15 inches long. I inherited her very thick hair and can sit on it, the hat is so big that it will accommodate most of my hair.
I remember reading about how hat pins were used for self defense. Along with those sticks that go between your boobs down your corset. I forgot what it’s called
A busk. And its more of a kyrtle and stays thing but some corsets had removable busks.
Nowadays we just use our heels 👠 or insanely long and sharp cat nail acrylics😂😢
yep! hat pin panic is definitely worth the research
Pins were used in the suffragette movement. Useful for stabbing the men who got in the way
Haha. A busk! I have one for my stay that my great gma left me, it was her mother's, ao from around 1880s Hungary. Idk if they called them that there bit that's the only word I know.
So you don’t stab anyone… accidentally. I’m going to need a follow up on that sentence!
edit: I love how so far the people below are getting excited about hat pin self defence XD Jill bearup's video is great
Well, I've seen a lot of vintage wearing héroïnes use them as lock picks and weapons, soo...
Hat pins were sometimes used as self-defense weapons. For example: when women traveled on trains and it went dark, some people would try to harass them under the cover of darkness. Hat pins came in handy there.
If i remember correctly there was a self defense movement that used these hat pins as weapons. It's quite crafty.
Women used to use hat pins as self defense actually! Many women fought off assault with their hat pins I hear
Look up Edwardian hat pin craze
Creepy men experiencing instant karma
I need this for modern wear too! Ive lost soo many Berets that just fly away😢😅
I think it would look cute in a Beret, but ik what you mean 😊
You can use bobby pins to fix your berets, I use three at a time and it works perfectly ! I wear berets almost everyday ☺️
You can still use them in half up pony tail!
I sew wig clips on my berets! I buy dozens of them so I can sew multiple on the brim and it doesn't pull too much.
I recently found my great grandmother’s harping from 1908. The end of it said “08” so we think it may have been a high school graduation gift.
What a cool find! That will be an awesome hand me down pice of history for your family.
hat pins are why in the code for the national anthem (under ‘conduct while playing’) technically only men have to remove their hats
Women were expected still to wear hats, it was considered for instance less respectable for a woman to remove her hat in church but men had the opposite.
My mom still has her hat pins, they all sit in a ceramic cup on her dresser. And her closet shelves has tons of boxed hats.
This has increased my desire to get into old-fashiony hats.
As a dude with a ponytail that loves to wear hats, this is genius😂😂
You'll have to change your name to windy centaur
@@Moontidearts 😂😂
My grandmother used to tall us how she carried a 10 inch hat pin with her on dates in the 1930s.
She knew the score! I both want to hear stabbing stories and don't want your grandmother to have to stab.
My grandmother's were all stabbing types. :)
Personally I put it front to back through my hat and hairdo. Your method makes me feel like the hat will be lifted by the wind every other minute (I live in a windy place) ^^ I also occasionally use two hatpins in different directions to be sure.
Great to see hatpins mentioned on UA-cam !
A quote from my great grandma, who lived to see the late 19th century: “A lady cannot be raped. Because ladies wear hats, and hats have hat pins.”
i’ve literally been asking myself how these work for ages MY PRAYERS HAVE FINALLY BEEN ANSWERED thank you :]
Or for short hair, use a Sponge that is Bobby pinned to the hair. Then run hat pin thru hat and Sponge.
Today I learned that hatpins length was for a functional reason. Thank you for that
Question: where do you buy your hat pins? I've been looking for them for a while, but I can't seem to find a place that sells them.
I've found antique stores to be great for hat pins.
Where can long hatpins be bought? I've wanted one for a long time.
Online or get lucky at a local antique store.
Most antique stores will have them
Careful. Most are reproductions now. Which is fine if you are paying reproduction prices. Antique pins can be very costly. I collect them. I know.
And people called me silly for stabbing Bobby pins into my hats
You will always be ready to pick a lock!
@@jessicazaytsoff1494 sure if I ever learn to, lmao
Meh, lock picking is a skill that needs more than a tool to actually work. That said even though I can and sometimes do only put up my hair with a pen, it's no worse than my hair sticks, I do prefer at all times to have a few long bobby pins on me. I don't comprehend how other people with lots of hair think being without bobby pins is a good idea!
My mom works at The Alamo as part of the living history department so she has learned and keeps learning about the fashions around 1830s. She's hoping with the expansions that's happening to be able to show off fashion from earlier and later.
She's got around 5 hats and a few hair pins. Her main trouble is that she's got such thick hair.
Thick hair is amazing! It just requires longer pins is all. Find what works for her, thick hair doesn't have to be a deterrent. Tiny pins will get lost in it, but all you have to do is use longer ones. I have a couple of 12 inch hair sticks that could probably double as a tent peg in a pinch but they never get lost in the mass and they do the job.
@@kyliecowan3879 oh she's got at least 1 hat pin that works for her.
@@kyliecowan3879 oh she's got at least 1 hat pun that works for her.
You have such beautiful eyes 🩵 I wish our society wore nice hats 👒 🎩
Um, do it?
@@FardtilUshid Funny you should say that because I bought a hat yesterday to perk my wardrobe 😄
My Nana had a few hat pins, I had no idea how they worked when I was little, so I found them absolutely terrifying
This is why I like to buy hatpins and the fact that it's an inconspicuous weapon.
Where can one find the pattern for that gorgeous corset?
That’s made with Ref W by Atelier Sylphe. Definitely a favorite!
I knew it was something like this but I love the details and explaining
For those of us with much shorter hair - you can loosely hand sew a bit of elastic thread through the front 1/2 or 2/3 of the inner hat band, then tie the ends together. then, when you put the hat on, stretch that bit of elastic around the back of your head. Holds on great even on windy days, and basically invisible especially if you sorta match the thread to your hair.
the "by accident" nearly took me out. I'm in danger of doing it on purpose nearly daily during rush hour after work haha
For anyone wondering about the “accidentally” part, take a look at some art of the day- namely, “The Irritating Gentleman” by Berthold Woltze.
The girl is reaching for her hat pin
Hat pins are kind of magical objects and I loved my collection of them. Some quite ornate.
"The Hatpin Panic". . .he had it coming
Could you please do a look from the 1680s-90s, I would really like to see your take on it, even if it's a little far back
I love your videos so much I just happened to stumble upon them and found myself hooked on them.
I’m pretty sure hat pins are illegal where I live, mostly due to the mentioned stabbing haha
You only accidentally stab people who get to close to your hat. Very reasonable.
And its a light stabbing.
This is so genius wtf (also, 1900s was definitely a good time to have a hat pin for self defense lol)
My mom collects hat pins . They are beautiful.
this is genius. it's practical AND a weapon at the same time!
I was wondering about this in your other videos! Thanks for sharing!
Never go out walking without your happiness!
This was a popular song in the 1890s because men were such CREEPS , women actually had to carry an extra happiness to defend themselves on the subway and streets to keep from being molested. True story.
Sometimes they had shoes with spikes to kick an offender.
As a kid, I always wondered how in the world women were able to keep their hats from blowing away. That's such a beautiful way to keep your hat on😍
Cap on the end also helps the hair pin from sliding out during alot of movement as well..
Thank you for having thus I have inherited so many hat pins and I didn't even know how to use them before this.
I love hats and hat pins sadly I don’t have long hair and won’t ever have long hair, so I just pin mine fancy in my hat so it can be seen. It’s not perfect and not very time accurate but I make do.
If you've got a few inches of hair, you might be able to put a tiny elastic in your hair to stab the pin under. Not historically accurate, but it would secure your jar
Interesting! But it seems like a strange law. I think 8 inch pins are still going to hurt just as much.
Thank you!! I love to wear hats. And I really needed this video. I remember my grandma wearing them. But didn’t know the exact process. Big help!👍👍
If you want you hair down crossing Bobby pins or a small braid (I other do two small one on either side join together at the back either in a hair band or as one braid) can also make for anchor point for hat pins. I use a couple to hold on my huge sun hat when in wind situations. What mention you pick to create anchor point depending on the hat and wether you know you will need to take it off, braids look much neater than random booby pins.
so cool!
Great weapon against perverted victorian men !
Easy sub. I love learning these tiny elegant things.
It’s insane how PERFECT this Suits u!!! You were DEF made for what u do! ❤
That corset is amazing
so, I suddenly realize that I know everything about hatpins even though this is the first time in 50 something years I am hearing the word "hatpin" spoken.
My grandmother never left the house without a hat and me, the tallest boy, was always the one roped into making sure the pin was properly in and the cap properly screwed on ...or pushed when hey got those new fangled ones.
So pretty!😍😍😍
I tend to use an industrial grade stapler. I may have lost some motor functions, and the ability to do basic math, but my hat isn't going anywhere.
Wow, you have the most gorgeous complexion.
Milady, you are breathtaking. Seriously!
It'd make a nice hidden self defense weapon
They're cute, but I just use whatever jewelry I have laying around.... It decorates my hat to whatever the day's style is, weighs down my hat so it doesn't blow away, and my hat is easier to remove quickly when necessary. So while I do have a bunch of hat pins, I use them for other stuff, like pinning a too low-cut blouse or a quick skirt pleat. I always thought they were a pain when used for the thing they're actually made for. Lol
My grandma always used hat pins on that type of hat when we went to the beach, she looked gorgeous and so stylish! 🤗💖
I also learned that in this dreamtime. The length of hat pins could not exceed a certain length so that it could not be used as an item of self-defense or as a weapon.
You know, this has been a question since I was little and watched Pollyanna. Thank you!
It’s my first time hearing about this and it’s amazing!
I always wondered that ! Thank you
In those olden days, hair was longer. So buns were very thick and high on the head. The hats were also much bigger. So the hat pin had to go through them all.
If you had a thick braid in your bun, you don't need a very long hat pin.
Modern women of today have shorter hair. Princess Diana had short hair. She had little combs sewn into her hats. You can do this with your hats, whatever types and size, and the hat will be secure.
You probably would want one in the front then, too?
I'm living where the wind is strong. 😉
I wonder if this is why, according to the old rules of etiquette, women are allowed to wear hats in situations where men may not?
Thanks for teaching me something new today❤
That is so cool!
I was wearing a hat the other day when it got windy, my hat flow off on to the road.
I had not heard about hat pins before this short
I said why can't I clip this on to my hair
So now I'm getting hatpins x
I’ve wondered all my life what hatpins are for. Thank you for showing me.
The things I learn on these late night scrolls. Fascinating.
bring these back, i’d wear hats more often
Never heard of a hat pin before, pretty cool!
a braid also works!
Is this method used for felt or cloth hats too?
I imagine it could be used on any hat that can take a stabbing without damage
@@birdyfeederz7940 I feel like most felt hats, it'll probably show over time :/ not sure how to keep them on my head!
“*on accident” reminded me of that one painting that Art Deco covered omg
My mother told the story of her high school banning hat pins and metal nail files, in the early 1960s. And how upset my grandmother was that girls were being robbed of defensive tools.
I really need a hat pin. My straw hat keeps getting blown away.
This is brilliant! Now I know, ty!
Could also help rip off your dress if you are drowning...to rip off buttons or whatever
Love it ❤
So... what kind of updos would you recommend? Im a big fan of a bun (ballet bun) but dont know how that would work.
Love it and didn't ready know what they were used for before this
Thank you, I was wondering how I could best anchor mine. I have the pins, just need some fancy hats :)
Thank you!
Going to a car show and it was like extreme record wins and I had to use to have pins and I’m so glad I had both of them with me. Didn’t think I needed them but by the end of the night I kept my hair up that it started raining and I am really glad I had my hat pins
Love the addition on " *by accident* "
Do you have a tutorial on the hairdo that you are wearing here? You look lovely and it suit you so much. I got some hairpins last year but still haven't got a nice hat, need to find one soon 😊
tHATS WHAT HATPINS DO??? I always knew they were a thing but never really thought too much of it - thank u for the knowledge lol :)
Wow! Now I need one.
Thanks!
I wish I could dress like you, it's just expensive until I can sew
THAT'S GENIUS
"By accident" is quite important.
bro this is so smart I need one
My grandma used to tell stories about how she was sure her mom and aunts were sticking their hat pins into their heads, and how she didn’t understand how they could do it without screaming or crying.
Thank you for that, but do they still have nice hairpins that are not Expensive antiques?
You judt made sense of how scarf pins can also work im your hair or around your neck
Awesome! Thank you.
Where is your hat from? I’m always looking for one like that 🤩