Moog's Sub 37: The GREATEST MONOSYNTH.......ever?

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    ALL background music in this video is 100% the Sub 37 or by ME. Check the tracks out in the UA-cam Audio Library
    Obviously I've had years and years of experience using the Moog Sub 37, it truly changed everything for me as far as live performance goes. I was so thankful when it was released, and now all these years later, yes, I personally think it's the best Analog synthesizer of all time. Sure I haven't used them all, but no one has...so if you disagree, duh, it's expected hahaha. That said, The Sub 37 is great for many many reasons, and even though it's been out for 8 years it will is a modern classic...IMHO. So maybe this video was simply made to say I LOVE YOU SUB 37.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 310

  • @stuartmccallum91
    @stuartmccallum91 2 роки тому +63

    I bought one of these used a couple years ago that had the wonky jumping filter pot! I emailed Moog and they sent me an entire replacement circuit board to drop in for the cost of shipping! ($20) No warranty, second owner, no questions asked they shipped it out to me.

    • @oddomadic
      @oddomadic Рік тому +2

      Wow you got the royal treatment. I had to pay $500 for a defective headphone jack which ended up being a circuit board as well.

  • @KattKirsch
    @KattKirsch 2 роки тому +5

    Great video, Noir! Every time I see you touch that synth during hangout jams it seems like such a different vibe than, say, the SV1. It's that feeling of switching from consummate keyboardist to sound investigator that I think Moog and its ilk really encourage. We should have a monosynth jam day this week or next to celebrate!

  • @leyetnin1
    @leyetnin1 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video! Fell in Love with it’s character and ease of use. No wasted space on the control surface, easy to tweak in the dark.

  • @williamtell1477
    @williamtell1477 2 роки тому

    Dude I love your channel SO much. Thank you for every one of your productions!

  • @SquarepulseMusic
    @SquarepulseMusic 2 роки тому +2

    Always amazing reviews and videos man! Happy to see these coming out again.

  • @blipblip88
    @blipblip88 5 місяців тому +3

    After about 25 or more years of not buying any music gear whatsoever, I had happened to walk into a music store, wandered the synth section and came across this beauty. I was smitten! It was switched on, and I played a few notes, twiddled a few knobs, and was absolutely in LOVE the sound, looks, and feel. It switched me on to loving making fun music again!

  • @NicStage
    @NicStage 2 роки тому +10

    Definitely one of the most enjoyable and useful monosynths I've ever used. Everything that you would ever want access to is on the front panel, to the point where it doesn't at all feel like digitally controlled analog unit. After many years of owning it, I'm still surprised at what what I can get from it. The routing capabilities are endless. If I had the money, I would buy another one just in case something ever happens to my current one. lol.
    Two features I like that you didn't mention (I don't think): The aftertouch (It feels nice) and the ability to edit patches from the computer via USB connection. They have a nice software tool for that.

  • @TheDjpredator
    @TheDjpredator 2 роки тому +5

    Love my Subsequent 37, the looks, the layout, and most important the sound! Such a phatt synth

  • @davidhardy5670
    @davidhardy5670 2 роки тому +1

    My first Moog synth was a a Sub 37. I loved the sound that it produced and used it for years i eventually sold it to get my hands on a MiniMoog but if i get the chance to snag another one i would in a heartbeat, Great Video.

  • @petea
    @petea 2 роки тому

    I recently went to a live show (yay) of Bonobo in Portland. He had one of these small Moogs (not sure which one) and it was awesome over the sound system. He would sit there on a key, tweaking and flooding the house in massive shirt-rattling bass. It made me want one, and a massive PA system. Great video!

  • @qlyde
    @qlyde 2 роки тому +1

    Great video Noir! Two synths I bought this year were the Subsequent 37 & Prophet-6. Legendary pair, all the vibe I could ask for, I'm in love with them both, but my old CZ-1 still has my favourite synth title 😅 The noisy stereo chorus, old 12bit DAC, 8 stage envelopes for *everything* and PD synthesis make the most unique and character rich synth I've played. Programming is a must but it sounds brilliant. I really wish there was a modern version of the CZ though, because modern synths are so much better to work with.
    Still need to figure out the Subsequent 37 plugin but I'm happy to use it hands-on anyways!

  • @VIRALBEATS360
    @VIRALBEATS360 2 роки тому

    Love it! Moog is a great company, and their packaging is always fun. Thank you for allowing me to live vicariously through your joy, until I get one of my own to play with.

  • @RodrickLodowica
    @RodrickLodowica 2 роки тому

    Thnx for this! I am pretty new in the world of Synths more specifically Synth Bass. I've been using a borrowed sub37. Can't wait to get one of my own!!

  • @xntricity6446
    @xntricity6446 Рік тому +8

    Its a synth that will excite you and never fails to disappoint. The best mono synth on the market.

  • @jansonrawlings8169
    @jansonrawlings8169 2 роки тому +2

    Love the video. After having both I still prefer the little phatty. That’s in a studio setting though, so I totally get the tuning stability issues of playing live you pointed out. Just sonically a phatty guy. Really wish it had the paraphony and sequencer of the sub though

  • @xdrabbit
    @xdrabbit 2 роки тому +1

    I love my Subsequent 37! Good job on your channel!

  • @MilesAwayOfficial
    @MilesAwayOfficial 2 роки тому +1

    It's still an absolute classic :D great video bro

  • @proxibomb4913
    @proxibomb4913 2 роки тому +6

    every band i've seen live that uses synths has this on-stage and all over their bts pics. this is truly the best monosynth of all time!!

  • @sunsp.t
    @sunsp.t 2 роки тому

    Yes. I have used this on an Atmospheric Folk album as a pedal steel-type sound, by rolling off the filter and playing high up with some plumey white noise thrown in. I have also used it as a dramatic 3-octave bass. I've done 3-hour rock bass gigs on it, creating "electric" and "acoustic" bass patches. The multiple drive options are huge for "old school" and "fake guitar" stuff. The only problem is it likes to show off in a mix, and often you have to significantly eq out some frequencies to make it sit inside of a track instead of in front of a track.

  • @ClifBratcher
    @ClifBratcher 2 роки тому +15

    The Subsequent 37 is the only Moog I've been interested in. I've used/repaired a wide range of their products and they just don't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, Moog does what they do very well. It just isn't what I want.
    Was finally planning on picking up a Subsequent 37 in 2020, but Sequential decided to debut the Pro 3.. I got the Pro 3 and do not regret it.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 2 роки тому +4

      Same-ish. I also got a Pro 3, and basically haven''t touched my other synths since. I don't even have GAS any more. It's the kind of synth a person can grow old with, and still never run out of new things to try.

    • @Iceleben
      @Iceleben 2 роки тому +5

      Same here - for me the PRO 3 is the greatest Mono Synth. Sold the SUB 37 never looked back

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 2 роки тому +3

      Yep! Pro 3 is ridiculous good.. and the SE edition is build quality is amazing.

    • @bettenhoffllc6083
      @bettenhoffllc6083 2 роки тому

      @@nagchumpalot yalll are so stupid lmao as if this synth could compare to a Moog. Ask any pro legend. Mike Dean for example. Ashamed of you fucks.

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 2 роки тому +7

    Of the affordable alternatives, I think the Novation Bass Station II is more like the Sub37 (or Sub25) than the Korg and Arturia synths.
    I love the Sub37, although I don't have one. Someday though. On paper, I thought I'd prefer the Pro 2 due to its richer feature set, but when I actually played them, I preferred the sound of the Sub37. Or at the very least, Moog synths seem to have the most/widest sweet spots to my ears.

  • @henrikfisch
    @henrikfisch 2 роки тому +12

    Well ... regarding "The best mono-synth ever build" ... I would say it's the "Pro2" from Dave Smith Instruments/Sequential.
    Why?
    Because I own one. 😀
    All the best! 😃

    • @aquaticborealis4877
      @aquaticborealis4877 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I was eyeing the Pro3. Gets rave reviews. I bought a Take 5 instead though. Also a great synth.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 2 роки тому

      Yeah... if I had to say what the best monosynth is, it'd probably be the Pro 2 or Pro 3. They do pretty much everything one could ever want from a monosynth, and they're ridiculously easy to use. Moog's Sub(sequent) 37 is nice, but it only does a small fraction as much.

    • @aquaticborealis4877
      @aquaticborealis4877 2 роки тому +1

      @@mikel5163 I really like it. Has a beautiful tone. Great keybed, good modulations. Connectivity options are limited and sequencer is a bit simple. Quality and workflow is very good.

  • @RoomAtTheTopStudio
    @RoomAtTheTopStudio 2 роки тому +4

    Still got my Tribute Edition. Still love it. Goes with my Korg Prologue like Abbot and Costello. What a combination. It's the combination that I use with my MPC sequencing both synths and this makes up the start of my workflow in most cases. I'm fortunate to have the KARP Odyssey as well but the original Sub37 is my go to mono synth 8 out of 10 times

  • @nickhatcher4519
    @nickhatcher4519 2 роки тому +1

    My experience with the Sub37 is only positive. Never owned but played with a closed friend’s unit. Pure joy. A bit confusing at first but became so playable. I think it might’ve been the best mono synth… UNTIL the Grandmother came in and took that title(imho) lol. Great video as always!

  • @rezazarasvand9631
    @rezazarasvand9631 2 роки тому +2

    i love my sub 37.. i do alot of gigs and this beautiful synth does it all with no problem of tuning or.... Moog sub 37 is a very very very good synth !

  • @catastrophicjones
    @catastrophicjones 2 роки тому +2

    I had the opportunity to buy some synths in 2020 because of the job I worked at the time. Pulled in a lot of hours, and was looking for something 'different' that I could buy. The subsequent 37 was one of my picks and it is amazing and beautifully designed. I wish I could play it more but I'm in search of a new place and have no room to let it out so currently it's in a box just waiting to be played. Hopefully I'll fix that by next month or so.

  • @lashtal
    @lashtal 2 роки тому

    Great vid bro. The Behringer Odyssey (not the Korg version) has a sequencer, can be obtained for approx. 400 on used markets. It's a great start for a monosynth owner, and if patient with it, the user can learn a lot of transferrable info about synthesis- which can be brought to any other synth thereafter. No patch saving on this one, but this is why it can challenge a person, to figure out how to recreate a beloved sound from scratch. On the other hand, I would really just recommend getting any cheap 100 dollar midi-controller keyboard and learning to play piano via free VST... see if one actually takes to piano before dropping 1000 or more on some keys. Then again, there are a lot of folks like me who aren't world class pianists, but we can still get some great sounds out of synths and rounding out our guitar music, by following a simple chord chart.

  • @SacSynths_Jack_Z
    @SacSynths_Jack_Z 2 роки тому

    The day after you posted this, my sweetwater rep called me to let me know they had gotten a batch of "imperfect" Sub 37s and 25s in from Moog... $330 off! I couldn't ignore that message from the synth gods! Really enjoyed the video, keep up the great work!

  • @anglosaxonking
    @anglosaxonking 2 роки тому

    I soooooo agree. I own mine manufactured 2/16 (I bought it new) and have loved it ever since.

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement 2 роки тому +5

    2:32 oh yeah I do this for each gig, I let the synthesizers warm up for 30minutes every time xD
    One time I played in an old champagne cave in france and the humidity made my poly synth sing like a police sirene lol

  • @ricardovieiramusic
    @ricardovieiramusic 2 роки тому +2

    I have a small studio and about 10 synths, and the Sub 37 is the most expensive one I own. But man, was it worth de money! It's by far my fav.

  • @VocalChainsStudio
    @VocalChainsStudio 2 роки тому +5

    It’s got a lot of depth, a sweet sequencer, interesting EGs with jammable looping functions. It’s probably way too much production depth for the average player but a dream synth for the right person.

  • @solomonjenkins9505
    @solomonjenkins9505 2 роки тому +1

    moog will ship you a replacement board for free. I've never done any synth work or anything before but it's a fairly easy swap. Very, very worth it, no idea how you contend with the filter issue, must not be as bad on yours as it was on mine. So amazing once replaced dude, highly recommend going for that board replacement

  • @SEFFOfficial
    @SEFFOfficial 2 роки тому +1

    Mega vid man, love my Subsequent37!!!!

  • @Musialproductions
    @Musialproductions 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing video! I couldn’t exactly afford a Sub 37 but I took the plunge 2 months ago and bought a Sub 25 on sale and absolutely love it! While it has less features and I certainly would like the extra octave of keys, the Sub 25 still sounds like the Sub 37 and I use it every day in my beats

  • @FuzzyDereck
    @FuzzyDereck 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!! I think the Sub37 is fantastic, but a Subsequent25 would be enough for my needs. (I still have a red Little Phatty that I want to, equally, hang onto & sell, lol. 😭)

  • @chuckshartz2722
    @chuckshartz2722 Рік тому

    I never knew that analog synthesizer's tuning behaves just like a guitar's tuning when exposed to vasprious climates. That's crazy. I know the tune knobs are present, but didn't realize they served that function.
    And this is the kind of demonstration and review I would expect to see all the time.... informative, to the points, and HONEST... keyword - honest. This is geard towards being informative, and not som much as a sales promotion.

  • @matfix1258
    @matfix1258 2 роки тому +2

    In the mid to late 90s, when I was talking to Robert Moog about the new synth he was making (came to be the Voyager) I told him it would be nice or a blessing if it could have more than one voice, or if you could add voice cards, I guess now with this and a few others, my ideas or suggestions have come to fruition. 😋 I wanted it to be a minimoog (I had one in the 90s) with memory and more filters, plus something extra. Maybe next they will add something new and exciting also.

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 2 роки тому

    The Sub37 blew my mind when I got it. I’d never owned anything with the modulation options that it has. These days, I find it a bit less impressive, having it sat next to a peak with 4 LFOs, but I still love the work flow (the push button twist knob to assign LFO is so well implemented) and the way it feels to use. I’m sad that the keys are all yellow and the pitch and mod wheels feel like using glue because the rubbery plastic has broken down, and that the headphone output crackles and pops like a bowl of Rice Crispies.

  • @jasonphilbrook4332
    @jasonphilbrook4332 2 роки тому

    Beautifully made video!

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths Рік тому +2

    This was my first hardware synth that I bought years ago after wanting to go DAWless and still have and love it! I would like to replace it with a Minimoog but 5k versus 1k to get less features not worth the cost.

  • @Iccapod
    @Iccapod 2 роки тому

    Love mine. I have an early one too but I switched the filter board and the yellow keyboard and it's fresh as.

  • @rip-off749
    @rip-off749 2 роки тому +10

    One of the best things about this instrument is the plugin that comes with it. You can integrate the hardware exactly like a software synth into your DAW session. Would be cool if other manufacturers had that too.

    • @GuitarsAndSynths
      @GuitarsAndSynths Рік тому +1

      plus it is free well other companies like Virus have a plugin and Oberheim had another software company develop a plugin for the new OB-X8 but it is not a free plugin!

    • @SOGNAMETAL
      @SOGNAMETAL Рік тому

      screw daw, dawless forever

    • @levraichris3321
      @levraichris3321 7 місяців тому

      The polybrute is pretty great in that regard

    • @janriepshoff5237
      @janriepshoff5237 7 місяців тому

      Looks like an interesting toy that Polybrute thingy.... *DAMN* @@levraichris3321

  • @ModularLanding
    @ModularLanding Рік тому +5

    Great video. Like the Moog One, the only bad thing that can be said about the Sub37 is the sound. Personally I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of mine and I love it. I do prefer the raw sound of the Matriarch and Mother 32, especially when I want something more vintage.

    • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
      @JamesCorbettMusic5000 Рік тому +2

      I agree, pushing past 12 o’clock on the oscillators is so fat on the matriarch.. the Sub37 has its own sound. Very different

  • @jonathanosborn4800
    @jonathanosborn4800 2 роки тому +1

    People will all have their own opinions of course! I’d argue the Voyager is the best Moog mono, but that the PRO3 is the best mono synth, and the PRO2 is the coolest not-poly synth, though not actually as good of a mono synth as the pro3, overall. The Voyager has the touch pad pplus wheels, the pro3 has the touch strip plus wheels, the pro2 has TWO strips plus wheels, but they are position AND pressure sensitive! Voyager has 3 oscillators and two filters, pro 3 has 3 filters, the pro2 has the super flexible dual-filter section. Yes, the 37 has a huge sweet spot, lots of knobs, stable, great modulation. But the pro3 is pretty much sweet spot, WAYYYY more modulation, tons of knobs.

  • @fiddlestickzmuzik
    @fiddlestickzmuzik 2 роки тому

    Certainly my fav, took me ages to buy one after trying all sorts of others including Pro 3 etc.. but now I have one it's staying forever.

  • @stinkypete9070
    @stinkypete9070 2 роки тому +1

    I sold most of my gear after getting this bad boy, if they made a fancy 4 voice poly version in the same comfy layout and shape (I guess the duo mode button could just be replaced with poly mode I guess) it be might even be only synth I'd own. It's great for bass and leads, but also sounds so nice multi tracked into pads etc.

  • @joco179
    @joco179 2 роки тому +1

    Good video! I'd love to hear your perspective on the matriarch. I got to play one for about 10 minutes at knobcon and I haven't stopped thinking about it since

  • @blackmateriaofficial2383
    @blackmateriaofficial2383 2 роки тому

    i remember Amos demonstrating some amazing sounds smiling and doing what i can only describe as the 'superman-clark kent' move, pushing his glasses back. I was instantly sold :)

    • @blackmateriaofficial2383
      @blackmateriaofficial2383 2 роки тому

      nothing has that smudge like the Sub37. The Karp smokes it when it comes to deep bass, though.

  • @traitortotheliving
    @traitortotheliving 2 роки тому

    Great video man!

  • @SuperStarO
    @SuperStarO 2 роки тому

    Love the content man

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguy 2 роки тому +24

    When I got it, I stopped using my Minimoog and eventually sold it. I tried replacing it with the One and then the Matriarch (originally named Big Momma, they should have kept that) but went back to the Sub37. It's just so damn playable and sounds great.
    In the Subsequent release they scattered my presets to the wind and removed my initials from my favorite lead sound, but in the original Subsequent set they are most of Bank 8.
    I am seeing Amos tonight and will show him your kind words. Thank you. Also, don't be a stranger! Come to Knobcon!

    • @DaveBessell
      @DaveBessell 2 роки тому

      You sold your minimoog! Sub37 is great but sounds quite a bit different to the mini.

    • @suitandtieguy
      @suitandtieguy 2 роки тому

      @@DaveBessell i thought I was going to be buying a new Minimoog but the Moog Music Inc discontinued them.

    • @DaveBessell
      @DaveBessell 2 роки тому

      @@suitandtieguy I have the new one, I honestly think its better than the originals. Better in the sense that it has separate LFO, velocity sensitive keyboard (which makes a huge difference) and a few patch points on the back.

    • @laylahassomethingtosay
      @laylahassomethingtosay 2 роки тому

      @suitandtieguy What has your experience with the Moog One been like?

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 2 роки тому

      I'm also curious to hear your thoughts on the One.
      I consider the Subsequent my desert island monosynth, it's damn near perfect for an analog mono (although I do wish it utilized the screen to show a) the exact clock bpm and b) the currently rotating knob's value relative to the actual value of the parameter.)
      But something about it is just inherently musical, like fat, saturated velvet flowing from my fingers to the speakers.
      Every time I have played a One, on the other hand, I have struggled to coax actual music out of it. It's not a casual instrument. I'm sure it is capable of amazing things, but 30 minute sessions in Guitar Center are not gonna be enough to get most people up to speed with it. If Subsequent is a Maserati, the One is a Boeing 787.

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. 2 роки тому +2

    At the beginning of the pandemic I sold my op-1, sub 37, and tons of other equipment. I did it because I was worried about my business. My business did fine fortunately and last year I bought another the op-1 and a moog sub 25. I truly appreciated and enjoyed the sub 37 and had a hard time bonding with the 25. I finally am starting to bond with it but I do miss the 37. It’s a beast

    • @amundbisgaard7295
      @amundbisgaard7295 2 роки тому +1

      I heard the two are actually a bit different, despite them having similar names. The subsequent 25 is supposedly based on the sub phatty, while the Subsequent 37 is based on the Sub 37.

    • @TheUnknownBass
      @TheUnknownBass 2 роки тому +1

      @@amundbisgaard7295 Yeah, you can immediately see this from the front panels. The Sub 25 and the Sub Phatty have the same controls/front panel.

    • @amundbisgaard7295
      @amundbisgaard7295 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheUnknownBass Neat...

  • @dandare301
    @dandare301 Рік тому

    Great review - thx

  • @JorbLovesGear
    @JorbLovesGear 2 роки тому +1

    Everything about the sub 37 is great, EXCEPT the modulation busses.
    I hate that I couldn't use them without giving up one of the LFO's, and while having multiple sources on a single bus can surprise with cool sounds, a lot of the time I only want one source to one destination, so essentially just 2 modulation rows. Pretty limiting in comparison these days.
    Bothered me enough that I sold it! But still, I think about buying another like twice a month lmao
    Good stuff, the consistently inconsistent king 😅🙏

  • @creatingspacesproducer
    @creatingspacesproducer 6 місяців тому

    You're a man of great taste :) It's my fav too :D

  • @RaniOsnat
    @RaniOsnat 2 роки тому

    Obviously I haven’t tried every mono synth out there, but having both a Subsequent 37 and a Slim phatty I would definitely put the 37 up there… for 4 reasons:
    1. The sound - it’s absolutely fat, organic, and unique. At first it was hard for me to get “gentle” tones out of it, but I learned it’s all in the gain staging (whereas in other synths VCA/DCA levels would typically be set high, here it starts overdriving past the middle point… it’s in the manual actually). That said, if you want gentle, airy tones get a Roland (I have those too).
    2. It absolutely begs to be tweaked (but still has patch memory so you can save your sounds). The accessibility of parameters is great., I create new sounds on it all the time
    3. It’s MUSICAL! The little tweaks you can make to envelope triggering, or assigning parameters to the mod wheel and other controls, makes it really great for expressive phrasing and funky bass lines.
    4. Built like a brick - I don’t think I’ve seen a synth so well built since the original DX7,

  • @SynthAddict
    @SynthAddict 2 роки тому

    nice one, finally had a chance to watch this :-)

  • @herberdth
    @herberdth 9 місяців тому

    Great sum up of the ups and few downs of the sub37.
    How do you rate the keybed? I don't really really like it as much as I wanted to.

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 2 роки тому +1

    I love my original Sub 37. I never did get the filter pot replaced.

  • @jettsom
    @jettsom 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Subsequent 37 and Pro 3, I love both equally.

  • @MySkinnydip
    @MySkinnydip 2 роки тому

    First time I heard your music was on a gorilla troop post. I love it!

  • @ComposerMichaelDow
    @ComposerMichaelDow 2 роки тому

    It's gotta be the Dave smith Evolver keyboard no? :D Great video as always!

    • @NoirEtBlancVie
      @NoirEtBlancVie  2 роки тому +1

      The Mono Evolver is SOOOOO special, great pick! I miss mine.

    • @ComposerMichaelDow
      @ComposerMichaelDow 2 роки тому +1

      @@NoirEtBlancVie I remember your videos on it! Was a great 1 minute review. I have considered selling mine.... but i won't now. I have sold too many synths that i regretted. Some i didn't mind selling at all (korg monologue mainly, offered me absolutely nothing) But the 303 606 combo was painful and still is... Supernova 2.. ouch. Too many regrets!

  • @marcpinion
    @marcpinion Рік тому

    I have had my sub 37 Tribute for several years and have never even looked at the presets. As you said I have a synth (well several to make my own sounds.

  • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
    @JamesCorbettMusic5000 Рік тому

    I’ve never warmed to my Sub37, I use it now and again, but fell in love with my OB6 and matriarch more.
    Maybe I need to spend more time with it

  • @wolfpackpresets
    @wolfpackpresets 2 роки тому

    After many years of use, Sub37 will still creatively surprise you ...
    I own many great monosynths - Grandmother, Korg MS20 (vintage), model D, Odyssey, Future retro XS and and yet I use Sub37 the most.

  • @PeanutButterAM
    @PeanutButterAM 2 роки тому

    I have a Sub37 CV.
    The rebuilt amp path with increased headroom giving more range from clean to reaaaalll dirty is nice.
    Best out.
    Now to find a way to get a One. Hahaha.

  • @fattyboombatty7736
    @fattyboombatty7736 2 роки тому +3

    Sound is everything - but,..... I do think after the blue UDO Super 6, the 37 is one of the nicest looking synths.

  • @TheCALMInstitute
    @TheCALMInstitute 2 роки тому

    The Little Phatty was the first synth I ever bought, around 2007? I loved it to death, and I still love it. But at one point some years after buying it, I fell victim to GAS and started to want more complexity than it could offer. So I bought a Sub37. To my ears it did sound a lot less "organic and imprecise" than my LP. But the design of it, especially after their big firmware update, was exceptional. The only real beef with it that I had was that the gain staging at the mixer was so aggressive - it seemed to start distorting very early in a knob turn. I still have my LP, and I really love its simple sounds, and the way I can have every single feature and option in my head all at once. I don't even have to use presets, it's like the fender telecaster of synths.

    • @liselottefrejdig1112
      @liselottefrejdig1112 Рік тому +1

      My first "synth" was the Casio VL-1. Some years later, it became the Yamaha DX-100. Now it's Moog Sub 37 and I'm happy!!

  • @Death_By_Media
    @Death_By_Media 2 роки тому +4

    I’ve thought about one over the years, but I’ve owned a few Moogs and flipped them all because ultimately each had some limitation or flaw I couldn’t get past . The Slim sounded pretty damn good , but tuning warm up was 35 to 45 mins . Bought the Minitaur like 3 times really liked its sound and each time they did updates it got better , but ultimately it wasn’t stealing time from my MS20 or BSII so I got rid of it and got a sub25 , but it just didn’t gel with the other synths in my set up . Moog is an awesome company and are great at what they do , but evidently the buttery warm sound of analog isn’t my bag as my favorites are the MS20 , Polivolks, Wasp , OSCar , etc . I like the weird noisy and harsher side of analog ....well except for Oberheim , but that’s another story .

  • @__3028
    @__3028 2 роки тому

    you really need to try vintage moog. its on another level to the new stuff, and I like the new stuff!

  • @nieuweabnormaal5869
    @nieuweabnormaal5869 2 роки тому

    I would buy the subsequent. I have the moog sub 37 but very soon there were problems with the headphone socket. No sound was heard through the headphone. And also no sound i heard through the output. Only when i put the volume of the headphone controller high i could hear sound through the speakers of my setup, but no sound through the headphone. Many moor sub37 have this. They solved it by making the subsequent.

  • @matthijsblomjous3671
    @matthijsblomjous3671 2 роки тому

    I bought a sub25 a few months ago. I'm definitely happy with it, but I kinda wish I had waited for a sub37 to come back into stock... This video confirms that once more.

    • @Maxat_Ospanov
      @Maxat_Ospanov 2 роки тому +1

      Some say that the sub 25 has a "warmer" bass sound than the 37.

  • @nepntzerZer
    @nepntzerZer Рік тому

    I enjoy your videos

  • @andreasoberg2021
    @andreasoberg2021 2 місяці тому

    I recently moved into the synth area only using piano and VST before. I did find that I just did not use the VST that much. But after I bought a Quantum MK2 I use it every day. I'm looking at expanding into more analog synth. I consider Moog One (but costly and seem and loud fan etc), OB X8 (sounds great) and something like Subsequent 37. Struggle between picking. I like the Subsequent 37 because it is a lot cheaper and the sound is great. Any thoughts are welcome :)

    • @andreasoberg2021
      @andreasoberg2021 2 місяці тому

      Ordered the One, will see about Subsequent 37. It sounds great.

  • @The_Bit_Player
    @The_Bit_Player 2 роки тому

    The Sub 37 Tribute Edition will always be the GOAT. I can't make a song without it . And I don't want to.

  • @klstay
    @klstay 2 роки тому

    While a great design in this space (analog mono w/patch memory, arp/sequencer) personal preference I think would really decide for this or Pro 3 or MatrixBrute. If just the raw sound and build quality (discrete, through hole) matter more then Studio Electronics.

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 Рік тому

    A classic, my fav.

  • @thomaspipermusic
    @thomaspipermusic 2 роки тому

    Facts I Love Mine it's my fave synth too I love Moog I have a matriarch too and it rock also

  • @alexmata196
    @alexmata196 2 роки тому

    I had a sub phatty and korg arp odyssey and it was very clear the better synth was the moog. I absolutely loved that synth. Needed cash and had to sell them both. Was sad for a couple of years. Now I have the Sub 37 and Korg Prologue. Everything happens for a reason.

  • @donaldpriola1807
    @donaldpriola1807 2 роки тому

    I still have my Slim Phatty, and yeah, it takes at least 15 minutes to tune. Still, beautiful unit. I do love my Grandmother Dark; great synth. If I had unlimited funds, and space, I'd pick up a Sub37 in two seconds.

  • @SoundsAndGear
    @SoundsAndGear 2 роки тому

    Dope vid bro!

    • @NoirEtBlancVie
      @NoirEtBlancVie  2 роки тому

      Thanks you man! You gonna make it to NAMM? 👀

    • @SoundsAndGear
      @SoundsAndGear 2 роки тому

      @@NoirEtBlancVie Nah, gonna sit this one out lol.

  • @Pintosonic
    @Pintosonic 2 роки тому +1

    I think the best sounding Moog now is the Matriarch but being semi modular and having no presets makes it less suitable for live use. I just wish Moog would make a synth that uses the same oscillators and filters as the Matriarch but has presets and a modulation matrix.

  • @jhewitt79
    @jhewitt79 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, can you explain using the Sub 37 sequencer as a phrase sampler? I'm very interested in this feature but haven't heard about it before now.

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguy 2 роки тому +1

    Another great lead synth that's _kind_ of fungible to the Sub37 is the IK Uno Synth Pro. It is not as friendly to edit but it's half the price and sounds great but different because of the filters.

    • @CatmanJimbo
      @CatmanJimbo 2 роки тому +1

      I got one recently, almost singlehandedly on the strength of Matt Johnson (of Jamiroquai)'s demo and it really kicks ass! I opted for the keyboard version so can only speak to that iteration of it but it's built like an absolute tank too, which I wasn't expecting.

    • @suitandtieguy
      @suitandtieguy 2 роки тому +1

      @@CatmanJimbo i love it. I'm trying to get some features implemented so I can use it instead of the Sub37. My live rig had to fit in a Suburban and every bit counts.

  • @richardanderson8696
    @richardanderson8696 2 роки тому

    I have a Subsequent 37, but I just can't love it, however much I try. To me, it's overcooked sounding - as if it has everything fed through a compressor. Lacks subtlety and warmth. The build quality isn't great either, some of the buttons quickly became loose. For the price, I don't rate it. I'll probably seek a swap at some point.

  • @rodrocolodro
    @rodrocolodro 8 місяців тому

    hi! and what about the sequential pro3? that's are my 2 options... the SUB37 and the PRO3

  • @DVDFRMN
    @DVDFRMN Рік тому

    excellent video

  • @ZenWorld
    @ZenWorld 2 роки тому +2

    Damm it don't make the prices go UP!!!

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 2 роки тому +1

    0:45 OMG, I always thought the SUB part of the name meant they were for only meant for BASS lines (because of SUB oscillators). So I never paid any attention to them.

  • @midnightsocean2689
    @midnightsocean2689 2 роки тому +1

    Bout 5 years ago I owned a slim phatty. One of the best designed analog “mono” synths I’ve used and I heavily regretted selling it.

    • @pigknickers2975
      @pigknickers2975 2 роки тому

      LOL, just sold mine. Lets hope the Subsequent37 fills it's place.

    • @midnightsocean2689
      @midnightsocean2689 2 роки тому

      @@pigknickers2975 I'm sure it will be fine.

  • @ktreier
    @ktreier Рік тому

    Subsequent is the first hardware synth I bought in 2017 after selling my ARP Odyssey back in 1982. I will only sell it if I end up a pauper.

  • @MrPiratebrain
    @MrPiratebrain 2 роки тому

    I have the subphaty and I love it

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 роки тому

    its my second desert synth after the MS-20

  • @TheGreatPanicker
    @TheGreatPanicker 2 роки тому +2

    How would one think this is not the greatest synth of all time!!!

  • @ingolf7411
    @ingolf7411 2 роки тому

    3 Moog with keyboards (Subsequent 37, Grandmother, Matriarch). As for me the Subsequent 37 is a fantastic instrument. I think, not comparable with the Grandmother and the Matriarch. It sounds impressive paired with a user interface that makes fun to turn the knobs. Great synth (and maybe a GOAT instrument).

    • @T-Hawkeyes
      @T-Hawkeyes 2 роки тому

      Like, its that much better than the Grandmother?

    • @ingolf7411
      @ingolf7411 2 роки тому

      @@T-Hawkeyes The Grandmother sounds great and offers some patch points. If doing sound design the Grandmother is more difficult. The Sub lets you store your design efforts and is therefore more predictable (the sound you've stored can be recalled). Regarding the sound the Sub, my very personal opinion, offers more variations as parameters for osc1 and osc2 can be modified independent (and the sub for osc1 is really massive).
      As for me I use the GM more for arps and "clear" Moog sounds. Whereas the Sub is used for (very) deep and ambient sounds. As mentioned earlier both synths are hard to compare ... to use both offers best fun (for my kind of use).

  • @HardyNahtal
    @HardyNahtal 2 роки тому +1

    C'mon.....you are forgetting Sequential Pro 2 or Pro 3!!! Thanks for the video 🤙🏾

  • @KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000
    @KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000 2 роки тому

    I wish we could just rent synths like we rented games at blockbuster back in the day 😂😂😂 it’s like I wanna like it, but I need to actually play it before I put that type of money for it ! The 1st day I got the lil Phatty I put it back on reverb because the same issues that u had

  • @andrewverran6998
    @andrewverran6998 2 місяці тому

    Would the closest more budget priced synth be a Behringer Poly D , Novation Station 2 ,??? any suggestions ?.
    Cheers..

  • @TheDungeonDive
    @TheDungeonDive 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. My vote for best ever mono is DSI Pro 2.

    • @jonathanosborn4800
      @jonathanosborn4800 2 роки тому

      Pro3 is a better stand-alone mono, PRO2 is a more overall complete tool, between processing external audio, paraphonic use, and overall sound-shaping

    • @nagchumpalot
      @nagchumpalot 2 роки тому

      Then try a Pro 3 SE edition worth the extra money for SE edition for incredible build, Like a modern Minimoog.