How the Judge Reached The Sentence for Alex Belfield

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Alex Belfield of @AlexBelfieldTheVoiceOfReason was sentenced today to 5 1/2 years in prison (of which he will serve half) for four counts of stalking. Many of you have asked how the judge has reached the sentence - this video explains that process but, of course, as I was not there, I cannot know the full details - just explain the process of reaching the sentence using the sentencing guidelines, found here:
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  • @michaelayling8855
    @michaelayling8855 2 роки тому +726

    Can you explain how a friend of mine was assaulted by her husband and ended up with a broken jaw and eye socket but he only received zero time in jail,this makes no sense.

    • @marcwilliams9824
      @marcwilliams9824 2 роки тому +44

      The world is bent.

    • @rob103rl
      @rob103rl 2 роки тому +88

      She wasn't Jeremy Vine.

    • @julianmorris9951
      @julianmorris9951 2 роки тому +71

      Belfield was given people information on UA-cam that the authorities didn’t want us knowing, many other right leaning UA-camrs have been shut down over the last few years, the stalking was a way to “get him”

    • @alfsmith4936
      @alfsmith4936 2 роки тому +4

      Did she burn dinner twice?

    • @steveb1739
      @steveb1739 2 роки тому +4

      She didn't listen?

  • @lindalw1163
    @lindalw1163 2 роки тому +1204

    If causing people to live in fear is a crime the Government should be locked up for life!

    • @Carwyn.Morris
      @Carwyn.Morris 2 роки тому +46

      the bit I don't understand is how do you make Alex responsible for how someone feels. Like I get the whole holding him to account for his behaviour but how do you measure some ones feelings.

    • @verairemonger1260
      @verairemonger1260 2 роки тому +27

      They lived in fear because they were mental, love.

    • @bravobr9725
      @bravobr9725 2 роки тому +11

      Bloody well said.

    • @davekeith1480
      @davekeith1480 2 роки тому +8

      oh yes👍🙄

    • @loriblue7768
      @loriblue7768 2 роки тому +8

      Agreed!

  • @manchegocheese997
    @manchegocheese997 2 роки тому +554

    Those found guilty of serious physical assault do not usually receive such sentences.

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +16

      Belfield stalked his victims over a course of more than ten years. Never heard of a physical assault lasting that long tbh

    • @Carwyn.Morris
      @Carwyn.Morris 2 роки тому +27

      @@ElementsMMA it happens in domestic violence cases all the time.

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +3

      @@Carwyn.Morris that’s a very slow punch

    • @Carwyn.Morris
      @Carwyn.Morris 2 роки тому +6

      @@ElementsMMA Lol Y'know what I mean.

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +1

      @@Carwyn.Morris 🤣

  • @jacko717
    @jacko717 2 роки тому +106

    Not a fan of Belfield, he's a curious character, but no question he's been dealt with harshly.
    The game is rigged.

    • @ness8802
      @ness8802 Рік тому

      Yes..CORRUPT

    • @paulhargreaves9103
      @paulhargreaves9103 Рік тому +3

      Agreed

    • @erniewild277
      @erniewild277 Рік тому

      CRY BABY VINE AND OTHERS. GET A LIFE.

    • @kevintwine2315
      @kevintwine2315 Рік тому

      He’s a creepy ginger grifter, it’s very strange that so many people are desperate to defend him

  • @Dan-qg1bq
    @Dan-qg1bq 2 роки тому +143

    I was run over deliberately by a 15 year old who stole my friends car.
    He then got out of the car and attacked me with a hammer and screwdriver.
    He then rode off on a stolen bike and when challenged by a female constable he wrestled with her and broke her arm with her own baton.
    I was stabbed and beaten. A leg broken in 5 places. A stolen car and bike. A seriously injured police officer.
    While on bail he attacked a security guard at Drayton Manor Park.
    He received two sentences of 6 months. To run concurrently. He was out in 3.
    How can 5 1/2 years be justice?

    • @BlackBeltBarrister
      @BlackBeltBarrister  2 роки тому +15

      I’m sorry to hear of your terrible experience.

    • @Dan-qg1bq
      @Dan-qg1bq 2 роки тому +14

      @@BlackBeltBarrister thank you so much for the reply.
      It was a long time ago now.

    • @sarahperks8226
      @sarahperks8226 2 роки тому +5

      So sorry you experienced this 🥺

    • @PeacockRhino
      @PeacockRhino 2 роки тому +1

      The criminal justice system is an absolute shambles at the moment, from under resourcing, totally inappropriate sentencing, and the (justified) Legal Aid strikes. I’m rapidly losing faith in its ability to protect the public.

    • @brianmckerrow817
      @brianmckerrow817 2 роки тому

      @@BlackBeltBarrister at the end if the day your integrity stops at expose the criminality of you and your profession. Here is evidence of that. I still over to debate you and prove beyond all doubt you conscious knowledge of your criminal conduct.

  • @captainbadger1013
    @captainbadger1013 2 роки тому +588

    Road traffic victims never get justice. My brother was killed by an uninsured driver who drove through 4 stop signs into a junction. The guy got 9 months suspended sentence, 200 hrs community service and a 3 year ban. You can literally kill someone and get far less time than Alex. His sentence seems extortionate.

    • @jonathanbuzzard1376
      @jonathanbuzzard1376 2 роки тому +22

      No, the uninsured driver should have got a *MUCH* longer sentence.

    • @karenpearson8916
      @karenpearson8916 2 роки тому

      did the criminal have a barrister or some legal representation ? This is why his sentence was light? Do you think the judge sat there with belfield and said oooh look a strong man with principles? No he sat there and thought you arrogant little shit you are going down

    • @wEstEgg8899
      @wEstEgg8899 2 роки тому +7

      I agree Captain Badger but I think the answer is the driver should have got much longer, several years, rather than reduce other sentences.

    • @pauloconnor5101
      @pauloconnor5101 2 роки тому +9

      Regardless the driver should of got much longer and bellfoeld sentence is a joke.

    • @topquark6919
      @topquark6919 2 роки тому +10

      Captain Badger, I'm so very sorry to hear about your brother.

  • @delegator001
    @delegator001 2 роки тому +1774

    The Law /justice system is crazy. How can that equal 5 1/2 years while serious crime like paedophiles, rapist.,and violent crime.get much less. Unbelievable.

    • @thorfullerton3751
      @thorfullerton3751 2 роки тому +85

      100%

    • @captaindunsell8568
      @captaindunsell8568 2 роки тому +120

      Never confuse law with Justice

    • @georgerbuchanan
      @georgerbuchanan 2 роки тому +27

      Murder is a life sentence. That’s longer than five and a half years. Often people are released on licence long before their full sentence. Typically murderers will serve sixteen and a half years in prison. That’s at least three times longer than Belfield will serve. Clearly maths is not your strong point.

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 2 роки тому +88

      @@captaindunsell8568 Never confuse justice with political persecution

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 2 роки тому +53

      This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing but was proven to be a long term hate campaign of stalking against multiple people which caused them great pain over an extended period, including in at least one case, an attempted suicide. This amounted to cruelty of the most pernicious kind and any lesser sentence would not have registered with Mr Belfield, the arrogant nasty criminal that he is, as any punishment at all.
      That you view other sentences as being too lenient has nothing whatsoever to do with this sentence, which is entirely appropriate in the circumstances. Should he have the temerity to appeal the sentence, which I’m sure he will do, I hope his sentence is increased by a few months so that he can further contemplate the consequences of his action.

  • @delmilligan4584
    @delmilligan4584 Рік тому +71

    The British law now says you’ll go to jail for hurting someone’s feeling

    • @markymark123100
      @markymark123100 Рік тому +5

      But a much lower sentence for an actual attack .

    • @JC57515
      @JC57515 Рік тому +1

      I long supported Alex, but what he did was unconscionable, he had no right to ruin people's lives who did nothing wrong.

    • @hannahjames3180
      @hannahjames3180 Рік тому +1

      @@JC57515 Yes, he became psychotic in a way.

  • @karentaylor8487
    @karentaylor8487 2 роки тому +490

    Did not the BBC cause Alex alarm and distress, when it lied when accusing Alex of making a bomb threat, and then the alleged BBC Solicitor resigned claiming she was having mental health issues. I hope Alex fights this with everything he's got.

    • @j9lorna
      @j9lorna 2 роки тому

      You mean the 300k donated to "Sue the BBC" that then was used to defend against 8x stalking charges?

    • @xenomorph6961
      @xenomorph6961 2 роки тому +3

      He could have fought it with all the money people gave him to fight this. He then chose to represent himself. He's either mental or guity of stealing all that money!

    • @frankielov
      @frankielov 2 роки тому +1

      👍🏽

    • @billywhippet
      @billywhippet 2 роки тому +5

      The problem is he ain't got nothing

    • @Upemm
      @Upemm 2 роки тому +12

      @MEH I agree, if you go to the High Court it’s best not to represent yourself. Better to have a QC ( or KC now) .

  • @Peter-ih2bv
    @Peter-ih2bv 2 роки тому +132

    5 young men in Newcastle got 6.5 years each for manslaughter. Makes this sentence rather extreme.

  • @63mckenzie
    @63mckenzie 2 роки тому +55

    No way this sentence was for stalking. He took on the establishment and in their eyes that is the worst crime you can commit.

    • @troffmeister68
      @troffmeister68 2 роки тому +6

      its funny how he does not like grooming gangs or the establishment , and he gets 5 years , sorry but no one will ever convince me , that this is not a fit up , nobbled jury perhaps , bbc , govt , police , it stinks , if he is a stalker for basically emailing and sticking up for himself on various issues , and despising the bbc , i really hope they never come for me , he is a total lamb compared to what i would do if severely provoked , the transcripts he read out of the trial were clearly factual or he would have been in big trouble , the victims were mostly homosexual men with clearly mental health issues , evidence was mainly non existant , 29 of 6000 emails ?? , and lets not forget , oh i cant remember , this stinks of tommy robinson all over again !

    • @63mckenzie
      @63mckenzie 2 роки тому +3

      @@troffmeister68 Stalkers have physically attacked their victims and got less. Hope he appeals.

    • @sheffielddavemt125adventur3
      @sheffielddavemt125adventur3 2 роки тому +1

      He didn’t take on the system, he was a defendant.
      The system came for him.
      He led everyone to believe he was the plaintiff. The man worked at the BBC, by definition he’s a narcissistic bell end.

    • @63mckenzie
      @63mckenzie 2 роки тому +1

      @@sheffielddavemt125adventur3 So you are saying him highlighting police corruption and incompetence, the BBC's corruption, incompetence and fixation with paedophilia was wrong?

    • @sheffielddavemt125adventur3
      @sheffielddavemt125adventur3 2 роки тому

      @@63mckenzie I hate the BBC just as much as the next man. Thousands of emails over ten years isn’t simple stalking, I said years ago there was more going on with him.
      He’s been made an example of to be sure but Snow White he isn’t.

  • @codyjarrett9685
    @codyjarrett9685 2 роки тому +49

    This was a truly unbelievably political sentence as a lesson not to mess with the establishment

  • @stkittsmanuk1
    @stkittsmanuk1 2 роки тому +599

    The legal system had already decided this, even before the case went to court. The partnership with the BBC made the result a foregone conclusion....

    • @cosmicaudio4589
      @cosmicaudio4589 2 роки тому +40

      It's deffo a political sentence.......

    • @kevwells3785
      @kevwells3785 2 роки тому +17

      Totally agree

    • @tommckellen342
      @tommckellen342 2 роки тому

      Anything to stop someone who might expose the Pedo shadow establishment.

    • @cobal-ul9ke
      @cobal-ul9ke 2 роки тому +10

      The Jimmy Saville effect

    • @nichemphill8321
      @nichemphill8321 2 роки тому +10

      Rubbish. You really need to read the trial transcript as he damaged his own case with many missteps including thinking he could defend himself and refusing to give evidence or offer a defence

  • @jue8176
    @jue8176 2 роки тому +817

    It’s crazy when child sex abuses don’t get given that kind of sentence they uselessly walk free ..it seems to be one rule for them and another for us double standards

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 2 роки тому +13

      So now you are going to tell us which child sex convictions usually get to walk free. This will be interesting.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому

      Our justice system do not care about our children. Watching kiddy porn is treated as nothing now.

    • @alexblue6991
      @alexblue6991 2 роки тому +21

      @@hedydd2 Andrew

    • @BertsmomUK
      @BertsmomUK 2 роки тому +18

      @@hedydd2 open your eyes and ears.

    • @MrSmriley
      @MrSmriley 2 роки тому +9

      @@hedydd2 What are you into exactly?

  • @elenastansbie9940
    @elenastansbie9940 2 роки тому +897

    I don't care how the judge got there. I care about how he got more time than an actual killer can get! A little bit of your soul must die every time you have to justify the system in which you work 😞

    • @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810
      @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 2 роки тому +20

      Fashion crimes

    • @johnwilkes681
      @johnwilkes681 2 роки тому +32

      Judge too a bung from the BBC.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому

      It's decisions like this, that make a mockery of justice in this country. What have we become?

    • @Vile_Entity_3545
      @Vile_Entity_3545 2 роки тому +45

      Remember the victims up north getting terrorised by the certain people and the police turning a blind eye?
      I am no fan of Belfield and first offence on a crime that was nearly always impossible to get a conviction a few years back, and not giving out the sentencing concurrently which at least would have been something. 5 1/2 years is a joke. If he would have got a year then I would have thought oh well you asked for it but what he got and consecutively is a proper pizz take for a first offence which harmed no-one but a snowflake who probably milked it when he said he was going to do himself in. He must have known it was alex and knew how far he would go. Fearing for your safety is a bit over the top when you knew it wasn’t going to go further than harrassment. Harrassment is what it sounded like more than stalking.

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +47

      A Political Sentence.

  • @basilstedny4554
    @basilstedny4554 Рік тому +8

    I was a witness to a man carrying a knife in a public place. He got a £100 fine. FIVE YEARS? No wonder i have no trust in our legal system.

    • @deborahwillard3495
      @deborahwillard3495 Рік тому

      I was taken to court for a tiny keyring with a push up triangle blade, about 2cm across, less up. Great for opening food packets for me & breaking into birdseed pkts. Novelty item looked like a tiny stanley knife. Nearly 40 years old. Got it moved to Crown Court as I had a right to clear my name in a first offense. Had legal aid. Wanted charges brought against arresting police for verbally & physically assaulting me! Prosecutor had private conference with my barrister, who came to tell me - all charges had been dropped. I was not amused. I wanted my day in court, I wanted to be heard & I wanted justice! Never money. Justice against those who were meant to uphold our laws, not break them themselves against civillians. Whole system is corrupt. Barking police in London. Same ones who tried hard to not investigate that homosexual serial killer. Last victim, number 4, sisters forced them to check cctv outside train station, to see who he met there off of Craigs list, the night he died. Police wrote others off as dead junkies. I used to chat to dog walker who found him dead in that graveyard. She found one before him too.

  • @andydavies5883
    @andydavies5883 2 роки тому +205

    The British legal system showing yet again that it is farcical 🤷‍♂️

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin Рік тому +4

      And victimises certain people....

    • @63Baggies
      @63Baggies Рік тому

      It's set up to keep the likes of the Black Belt Barister employed; why else would legalese exist?

    • @benny210169
      @benny210169 Рік тому

      He didn't defend himself. Didn't take the stand. Why didn't he get cross-examined? Something to hide? The jury will have lots of evidence of the allegations and none to refute it. This removes "reasonable doubt" and thus a gulily verdict was given.
      There were others, not mentioned in court, that were harassed and had a torrid time from Belfield for years.
      The justice system is working and we have one less sanctomonious and supercilious stalker on the streets.

    • @barrymcclean5871
      @barrymcclean5871 Рік тому +2

      This is why we should never consent to be bound by the statute system and the admiralty commercial courts. COMMON LAW ONLY.

    • @DashDriver-z1r
      @DashDriver-z1r Рік тому

      Exactly the judges seem to lean on the leftist agenda and anyone who goes against or doesn’t fit their victim hood gets shown and unfair rogering 😢

  • @jane---489
    @jane---489 2 роки тому +351

    *_I don't like Alex Belfield, but I absolutely defend his position, the sentence was ridiculous. He was given it as a warning to others not_*
    *_to expose wrongdoers ..._*

    • @carlisroy6666
      @carlisroy6666 Рік тому +2

      Which sentence? He had four separate sentences. Which specific one did you disagree with?

    • @RS-os7wm
      @RS-os7wm Рік тому +5

      Defend his position to abuse individuals on line . The sentence reflects the serious nature of his crimes (4)

    • @annielovestheroyalfamily3
      @annielovestheroyalfamily3 Рік тому +2

      @@carlisroy6666 all of them!!

    • @carlisroy6666
      @carlisroy6666 Рік тому +1

      @Rowena Galloway His lowest sentence was 13 weeks. Based on your understanding of the convictions and sentencing guidelines, what should he have been given?

    • @annielovestheroyalfamily3
      @annielovestheroyalfamily3 Рік тому

      @@carlisroy6666 nothing. But I appreciate you asking me.

  • @martinspencer1618
    @martinspencer1618 2 роки тому +675

    Very clearly a political sentence.
    How far we have fallen.

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +17

      Which is how I view it- disgusting.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +15

      A victory for the merry ship HMS BBC

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 2 роки тому

      Political? You are having a laugh! Surely? He harassed a great number of people over a number of years while encouraging his rather unintelligent audiences to do likewise. One of his victims attempted suicide and others were greatly distressed over an extended period of time. He is a nasty piece of work and has finally had his come-uppance. He will only serve 2.5 years, which seems entirely appropriate given the facts of the case.

    • @nicktatters7523
      @nicktatters7523 2 роки тому +9

      He will come back louder and stronger 👍

    • @robc8593
      @robc8593 2 роки тому

      Its been clear the establishment can make problems disappear. I used to have to deal with animal rights activists when visiting some places, then they just were not there. I looked into it and found the establishment quietly had bankrupted many of them, others were serving long sentences... poof! problem gone.

  • @jamesrashbrook9485
    @jamesrashbrook9485 2 роки тому +20

    My ex neighbour got convicted of threats to kill,he kept coming outside my home screaming his intent to kill me,when police turned up he continued telling then he was going to buy a sawn off shotgun for £500,who he was going to buy it from and as soon as police left he was going to kill me,this was shown to court on police bodycam, he has multiple convictions the last 2 months previously where victim was a child,I had to move home for safety and he got six months prison suspended for 6 months, the law is a joke

  • @denicase9444
    @denicase9444 2 роки тому +436

    Outrageous sentence! The UK justice system is broken and free speech has died a death. People should be worried, very worried.

    • @WorksopGimp
      @WorksopGimp 2 роки тому +21

      Most are blinded by the dislike of him to see the real issue

    • @andyrobinson2653
      @andyrobinson2653 2 роки тому +21

      Establishment wanted to bring him down and Belfield fell into it.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, it's scary. The judge went with the guidelines but prosecution knew that when they set the charges. Appears to be rigged.

    • @davidcunningham8699
      @davidcunningham8699 2 роки тому +6

      No reason to worry, its always been like this!

    • @glennbateman4483
      @glennbateman4483 2 роки тому +9

      ​@@WorksopGimp Bellend is an odious excuse for a human but I will admit it does seem harsh

  • @paulshea7022
    @paulshea7022 2 роки тому +339

    I noted that he had complete faith in the legal system and that the courts would be fair. HE CERTAINLY GOT THAT WRONG.

    • @joehayes247
      @joehayes247 2 роки тому

      That’s what happens when you upset the BBC as the police in Nottingham work for the BBC…. That’s why his house was raided 3 times for absolutely no reason whatsoever

    • @cuprashoe
      @cuprashoe 2 роки тому +18

      Well he should have spent the money he scammed out of smooth brain people on a good defence team

    • @JesterEric
      @JesterEric 2 роки тому +9

      He should have testified in his own defence. Any jury would think someone who does not testify is likely guilty

    • @stephaniesamra7960
      @stephaniesamra7960 2 роки тому +4

      @@cuprashoe I thought his defence lawyer did a good job.

    • @Maria-0017
      @Maria-0017 2 роки тому +13

      Yes very sad, other than this pending court case , he was at his happiest, he often would say so, very sad, he worked so hard to get where he was, for some corrupt people in power to take it all away, where’s the justice?!

  • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
    @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +232

    Makes no sense to me. British Justice? A suspended sentence at the most, but this is gross.

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 2 роки тому +5

      Was even enough evidence to convict, all the BBC 'victims' were coached!

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +1

      @@williamrae9954 collusion comes to mind. They all knew each other and worked for the BBC

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 2 роки тому +2

      @@rsmickeymooproductions4877 That alone should win an appeal?

    • @brainimp
      @brainimp 2 роки тому

      @@williamrae9954 people keep saying BBC, but there were victims who had nothing to do with the BBC that he stalked, the guy is mentally ill and did not like competition in his line of work so went on decade long campaigns against them.

    • @williamrae9954
      @williamrae9954 2 роки тому

      @@brainimp All guilty verdict were BBC employees... 29 emails only produced in evidence over a decade... a stitch up

  • @congt9288
    @congt9288 2 роки тому +50

    Ridiculous sentence. The ones that should be sentenced were the unmarked police who came around his house and broke his door down among other things. The law has lost the plot.

    • @blenderocean
      @blenderocean Рік тому

      If you watch Stacey Dooley's stalkers, the police were about to do that to somebody, using a warrant. So it isn't unheard of.

  • @carolflower8015
    @carolflower8015 2 роки тому +172

    Never heard of a stalker getting jail time before - police usually throw up their hands and claim there's nothing they can do until you get murdered - what's different about this case - surely they're not making an example of him?

    • @LoonZoomBoo
      @LoonZoomBoo Рік тому +4

      Are you implying that stalking is not that serious? 🤔

    • @GotMoreCakes
      @GotMoreCakes Рік тому +3

      @@LoonZoomBoo They're obviously not.

    • @Sidneyyoungblood75
      @Sidneyyoungblood75 Рік тому +10

      @@LoonZoomBoo no, he/she clearly isn't. Read it again and again and again to get it

    • @shirleymaxwell6899
      @shirleymaxwell6899 Рік тому +1

      I hope Alex takes this a whole lot further

    • @arthurballs9632
      @arthurballs9632 Рік тому +1

      The former BBC Newsnight presenter Emily Matlis has been stalked by a man she went to university with. He's been sentenced to two prison terms so far.

  • @Rockhopper1
    @Rockhopper1 2 роки тому +706

    I am genuinely shocked, I viewed him as a shock jock and journalist. His methods were coarse, but I did not expect this.

    • @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810
      @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 2 роки тому +34

      He was found guilty of stalking 4 people at once. It’s not really a surprise

    • @johnllewlyndavies222
      @johnllewlyndavies222 2 роки тому +23

      @@kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 - and not guilty of four, even though he did exactly the same to all eight of them.

    • @georgerbuchanan
      @georgerbuchanan 2 роки тому +17

      @@johnllewlyndavies222 er, no he didn’t actually…

    • @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810
      @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 2 роки тому +20

      @@johnllewlyndavies222 yeah, if you are being tried for murdering 8 people and only guilty of murdering 4. You still murdered 4 of them. Does it not work this way too for him?

    • @michaelarchangel1163
      @michaelarchangel1163 2 роки тому +12

      Neither did I. Here's my purely 'subjective opinion ' - I'd be very interested to know how many impartial judges are as solid a part of the British establishment as are the BBC. It seems to me that sentencing is much akin here to the tendency to receive a far more lenient one for burgling a private home than for doing so to a bank, art gallery or post office, regardless of the booty gleaned.

  • @David-xc4us
    @David-xc4us 2 роки тому +219

    So u get more time in prison for hurting someone’s feelings than actually physically hurting someone….

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +19

      True, this is the justice system in this country. It's broken and bares no reality to the crime committed.

    • @lesliemccaghy9611
      @lesliemccaghy9611 2 роки тому +6

      Belfield thought the judge was a good guy! That judge did not become a lord for nothing.

    • @robbierabz8862
      @robbierabz8862 2 роки тому

      How would you feel if he harassed your pregnant wife or alarmed your elderly mother? Well, that's just a couple of the things just one victim had to endure

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 2 роки тому

      @@lesliemccaghy9611 the judge was a moron

    • @iveneverseenahealthyvegan.9885
      @iveneverseenahealthyvegan.9885 2 роки тому +8

      I can assume if you have not experienced extreme emotional abuse. It is more than bullying.
      You may have a connection with AB i dont know. I suggest you research emotional bullying and the effects on the victims.

  • @lynnerowsell1942
    @lynnerowsell1942 2 роки тому +67

    So how did the other stalker in this week's news get completely let off after stalking a woman over 5 years and drove past her house 15 times a day posting on tik tok to the point where she had to wear a body cam and he walked away completely free??????

    • @marshallmatters1526
      @marshallmatters1526 Рік тому

      She didn't work for the BBC or mainstream media mafia. And, he probably didn't represent himself.

    • @deborahwillard3495
      @deborahwillard3495 Рік тому

      Let me guess? She did not work for the BBC!

    • @markymark123100
      @markymark123100 Рік тому +6

      Not political .

    • @lynnerowsell1942
      @lynnerowsell1942 Рік тому

      @Ed Straker rubbish bbc opinion

    • @lynnerowsell1942
      @lynnerowsell1942 Рік тому +1

      @@markymark123100 not unbiased just bbc making a point as always defending should go ahead

  • @gazhilts53
    @gazhilts53 2 роки тому +247

    Very harsh, when others who do things to kids get less.

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +13

      Why are so many people obsessed with peadofiles? Can’t anything be separated from child abuse? Stalking of one adult by another does not happen in a vacuum that should solely be judge by how child abusers act.
      Weird.

    • @jackjude
      @jackjude 2 роки тому +1

      @@ElementsMMA same people who probably say "why didn't they report it at the time?"

    • @dogcatdogable
      @dogcatdogable 2 роки тому +4

      @@ElementsMMA because these people are the British equivalent of Q-anoners

    • @ridanann
      @ridanann 2 роки тому

      @@ElementsMMA this is by no means a plan conclusion however this is a pattern of behaviour the absolute scum of Society will bring up paedophiles in a what about ISM kind of way because a paedophile is the only thing worse than they actually are. they usually being career criminals in and out of the pokey and like a f****** yo-yo. in my life experience this is my kind of people who constantly banging on about paedophiles because they have to find that one person in society who is worse than they are the majority of this comment section is clearly made up of career criminals to which I would suggest that they grow the f****** and get a life paedophiles are awful yes but so is a guy who's been done for 5 counts of burglary and he's thinking about his 6 or I don't know your average wife battery enthusiast they hate paedophiles nearly as much as they hate themselves it's all about psychology paedophiles are scum easy target harder to look in the mirror.

    • @yvonnesanders4308
      @yvonnesanders4308 2 роки тому

      Because you're stupid if you can't figure out why they're using that crime. For most people noncimg is the worst crime someone can commit ergo if paedos walk free and bellfield got 51/5 years something is very wrong

  • @elenastansbie9940
    @elenastansbie9940 2 роки тому +523

    RIP the British justice system. The government and the judges need to be reminded that their laws only count as long as the public goes along with it!

    • @boudicca3845
      @boudicca3845 2 роки тому

      I'm a member of the public and I go along with it. He was a nasty, spiteful little man, and got what he deserved.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +24

      This is the final straw for me. Now I know the system is rigged.

    • @vercingetorixwulf9298
      @vercingetorixwulf9298 2 роки тому +2

      @@rsmickeymooproductions4877 ...... Better late than never .....

    • @dinogoldie9716
      @dinogoldie9716 2 роки тому

      Nope. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf Alex Belfield being a vindictive little creep is not the judiciary's fault. It wasn't the police/judge/cps/jury who forced him to mount campaigns of intimidation and harassment against strangers. It wasn't the judiciary/police who fabricated and promulgated entirely fictitious narratives to incite hatred of Jeremy Vine et al. Justice has been served. Now, hopefully, Mr Belfield can be erased from the popular conscious and never thought/spoken of again after today.

    • @NL-fg6it
      @NL-fg6it 2 роки тому

      RS MickeyMoo Productions what are you gonna do?

  • @nathanhowland196
    @nathanhowland196 2 роки тому +246

    I am personally in shock at the sentence given, and see no justification for it. Politicians can break curfew rules with impunity, Bellfield has been made example of.

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme Рік тому +8

      When he gets out he will have an even bigger following and will be having the last laugh and there is nothing these vindictive fools who turn a blind eye to serious crimes can do about it.

    • @Realpoweronearth
      @Realpoweronearth Рік тому +5

      For sure!!!

    • @gumusluk05
      @gumusluk05 Рік тому +1

      Read the facts. 10 years of being truly evil

    • @unclemonty9506
      @unclemonty9506 Рік тому

      Belfield is a nasty and vindictive individual who always portrays himself as the victim. It's not only his own actions that need to be taken into account but his constant inciting of his disciples to also harass his targets that is the real danger - who knows what nut jobs follow his every word. Good Riddance to the nasty little tu-rd

    • @dunebasher1971
      @dunebasher1971 Рік тому +2

      How did you come to the conclusion that there is no justification for it, out of interest? Were you there in court and as fully apprised of both the prosecution and defence cases as the judge? Or do you just like Belfield and think he should be allowed to get away with stalking?

  • @kevintucker3681
    @kevintucker3681 Рік тому +34

    When you consider that Katie Price didn't go to prison after all she has done,I find Alex Bellfields sentence very harsh

  • @simonbaxter8001
    @simonbaxter8001 2 роки тому +567

    5 1/2 years for a bunch of emails that hurt the recipients feelings? What about the lies from the 'victims' about the number of emails, what about the police harassment which always ended in release without charge? What sentence do they get for lying and the distress they caused? Alex needs to appeal this, this is a disgusting and disproportionate sentence for the 'offence' committed. This has completely made me loose faith in our justice system.

    • @octowuss1888
      @octowuss1888 2 роки тому +51

      What about the hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of donations he took from people to sue the BBC and Police? Where did that money go? He didn't sue anyone, He didn't spend it on lawyers. Looks like a lot of it went on holidays abroad and home improvements. The guy is a conman.

    • @whathappenedtomyYThandle
      @whathappenedtomyYThandle 2 роки тому +6

      @@octowuss1888 Originally I had thought it went to consulations and inquiries since hourly fees were so high at £250-500 per hour with & considerable retainer in the hundreds of thousands. Being it was Law Enforcement & the BBCs legal arm eventually represented himself because couldn't afford it.

    • @craigdean5153
      @craigdean5153 2 роки тому +30

      They’re were thousands of emails going back years.
      He’s a nutcase

    • @craigdean5153
      @craigdean5153 2 роки тому +12

      @@whathappenedtomyYThandle so where did the money go? Circa 500k

    • @mattiemclean9882
      @mattiemclean9882 2 роки тому +11

      @@craigdean5153 I always thought he was a wrongun. Based purely on his "vibe"!!

  • @trevorkirk413
    @trevorkirk413 2 роки тому +538

    Has much as I dislike Mr Belfield, he has proved that the system is corrupt!

    • @claireemily1983
      @claireemily1983 2 роки тому +24

      The only corruption going on is Alex robbing his fans blind

    • @spanishpeaches2930
      @spanishpeaches2930 2 роки тому +8

      @@claireemily1983 He never robbed them. They gave of their own free will...admittedly , it does seem like he twisted his words to suit his cause.

    • @dinogoldie9716
      @dinogoldie9716 2 роки тому

      No he hasn't. It was established as FACT during his trial (for which he refused to mount any defence and/or stand on oath) that all his stories about BBC/police "corruption" were entirely fictitious. The guy is delusional and if you are defending/excusing his delusions, you are no better than he. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf

    • @claireemily1983
      @claireemily1983 2 роки тому +19

      @@spanishpeaches2930 I disagree, he manipulated them into donating.

    • @spanishpeaches2930
      @spanishpeaches2930 2 роки тому +5

      @@claireemily1983 manipulating is not robbing. The diifference between robbing and burgling is that robbing comes with the threat of violence

  • @3kdn
    @3kdn 2 роки тому +424

    This sentence is more about the establishment sending a message to those who fight for freedom of speech along with the right to question or challenge, rather than based on the actual crimes he was found guilty of committing. I am no fan of Belfield, but he caused a lot of people in positions of power a lot of sleepless nights, because of the speed he grew his following of subscribers on UA-cam and questioned the system and the people who promoted it, be it police/media or politicians.

    • @ianking8315
      @ianking8315 2 роки тому +9

      brilliant comment kdn.

    • @yoyoseemee
      @yoyoseemee 2 роки тому +7

      👍

    • @LW-wu5ni
      @LW-wu5ni 2 роки тому +1

      Makes you wonder why Martin Bashir and the BBC have not been bought before a judge and jury … what they did was far worse !

    • @suemassey5076
      @suemassey5076 2 роки тому +9

      Absolutely, the core of it, spot on

    • @francocarrieri1988
      @francocarrieri1988 2 роки тому +5

      Correct!

  • @BlackStump172
    @BlackStump172 2 роки тому +52

    I am shocked and horrified . I do not like the man but this is appalling. I do not believe that any of these people were scared of him at all , only annoyed .

  • @traintochange9902
    @traintochange9902 2 роки тому +326

    This is an extreme and politically motivated sentencing . You can't honestly tell me he deserves that , when people like Katie Price etc get away with drunk driving especially on a ban etc

    • @SK-ei4cm
      @SK-ei4cm 2 роки тому +10

      You haven’t followed the case have you ?

    • @annielovestheroyalfamily3
      @annielovestheroyalfamily3 2 роки тому +6

      Absolutely agree

    • @cpn9072
      @cpn9072 Рік тому +7

      The kicker is that the Judge made the sentences CONSECUTIVELY rather then the norm of concurrence. It says a lot that Belfield was known to the courts for previous judgements and failed to acknowledge the fact. That is down to him and no-one else.
      He has rolled then dice and come up snake eyes and lost big time. End of.

    • @annielovestheroyalfamily3
      @annielovestheroyalfamily3 Рік тому +12

      @@cpn9072 disgusting. Look at other instances.....Katie bloody price!! To name but one.

    • @paulcroxton6047
      @paulcroxton6047 Рік тому

      Stalking is a crime ,end of....There's ways of exposing corruption, without breaking the law....Bellfield thinks he's some sort of hero to those, who arrogantly think they are awake and no one else is.....You don't need to be part of a mass to be awake....

  • @andybell8887
    @andybell8887 2 роки тому +494

    I think this disgusting sentence just proves conformation of what Alex Bellfield has been saying about this corrupt and sinister establishment.

    • @tonebonetones
      @tonebonetones 2 роки тому +16

      Quite so.

    • @robbeales5516
      @robbeales5516 2 роки тому +18

      Yes this country is heading down a stinking rat hole and anyone gloating may well end up being dragged down the same rathole eventually

    • @resistancefighter9009
      @resistancefighter9009 2 роки тому +17

      @@robbeales5516
      He tried to harm an unborn child and kill a man live on air in a campagne of harassment lasting 10 years.
      How long would you have given him?

    • @davidstephen6753
      @davidstephen6753 2 роки тому +7

      He took his chances and got what he deserved / asked for. The law's pretty clear and this article discusses it pretty thoroughly.

    • @happydace6991
      @happydace6991 2 роки тому +7

      @@resistancefighter9009 you shouldn't really be on here talking bollocks mate .

  • @robg521
    @robg521 2 роки тому +769

    This is appalling. I am not a fan of Belfield and find him annoying to watch, but I did follow the case and I thought the case against him was trumped up motivated by the perception that you cannot criticise a government establishment. [as in that it was him versus the BBC]
    It is beyond me how they could find him guilty and 5 years is bloody ridiculous.

    • @freddyeverready
      @freddyeverready 2 роки тому +27

      Fair sentence.
      He stalked people for years and shown no guilt.

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +41

      It is very hard to stomach the fact that Political Sentences still sometimes occur in this country, but here's one.

    • @caroldaniels5505
      @caroldaniels5505 2 роки тому

      @@freddyeverready while in the real world, we the sane see EXACTLY what this is !!!

    • @fraserm803
      @fraserm803 2 роки тому

      @funky
      You're a troll
      Probably Jeremy vile.

    • @jimbo7854
      @jimbo7854 2 роки тому +29

      he defended himself like a knob

  • @SweetJennyFan
    @SweetJennyFan 2 роки тому +10

    The U.K. legal system has become a complete joke. I was surprised that Alex put his faith in it. Hope you are happy with yourself Jeremy.

  • @otto.a.2465
    @otto.a.2465 2 роки тому +269

    A vile couple tortured their young child by making it stay in a freezing ice bath, the child almost died, it was recently in the news.. They were sentenced to three years each! Belfields sentence was really harsh.

    • @Muesliman467
      @Muesliman467 2 роки тому +12

      That couple got too short a sentence by many years. Belfield got a fair sentence.

    • @Steve_the_Lion
      @Steve_the_Lion 2 роки тому

      @@Muesliman467 Belfield is a victim of tyranny and injustice.

    • @Muesliman467
      @Muesliman467 2 роки тому +2

      @@Steve_the_Lion No he isn't. Not to anyone who knows the case.

    • @foryourlugsonly
      @foryourlugsonly 2 роки тому +10

      @@Muesliman467 a fair sentence for making videos about public figures? Absolutely insane sentence. Shouldn't have even been at court.

    • @Steve_the_Lion
      @Steve_the_Lion 2 роки тому

      @@Muesliman467 So who has been harmed?

  • @LW-wu5ni
    @LW-wu5ni 2 роки тому +836

    The harshness of the punishment in comparison to other horrendous crimes seems the scales of justice are not balancing
    When you read a participant in the Grooming Gangs got 4 years for repeatedly raping a 13 YEAR OLD GIRL it’s concerning that a harmful words warrant a longer prison sentence
    Like Alex or not this is suspiciously a corrupt case against him

    • @innitandting
      @innitandting 2 роки тому

      It's disgusting really, Alex took on the Establishment and there was only going to be one winner despite his (misplaced) faith in the 'justice system'

    • @dougaldouglas8842
      @dougaldouglas8842 2 роки тому

      Justice in the United Kingdom has never been balanced, You can get less for rape than for robbery, for instance.

    • @kaycee625
      @kaycee625 2 роки тому +26

      Most definitely

    • @cyberdonblue4413
      @cyberdonblue4413 2 роки тому

      Like many commenters here, I am not a fan of Alex Belfied. However, I believe certain powers that be decided that he had too much to say about certain aspects of this woke way of life we are now being dragged towards in this country these days. "The Establishment" have taken down somebody who they perceive to be a threat to their power because of the large following he has built up, much like a certain Mr Robinson who we're not supposed to mention anymore.

    • @dougaldouglas8842
      @dougaldouglas8842 2 роки тому +10

      @@kaycee625 You know it is justice to see this thing face a situation that is stressful, after he continually attacked the mental health of others, shouted abuse that they were weak. Let us see how he manages his time.

  • @warriorpoet9629
    @warriorpoet9629 2 роки тому +228

    The UK justice system is a disgrace. Anyone who dares to expose those in power will never being treated fairly. Ask Julian.

    • @Em-im1yz
      @Em-im1yz Рік тому +3

      Never been stalked i take it. Its life ruining.

    • @Em-im1yz
      @Em-im1yz Рік тому +1

      @nieooj gotoy did she drop charges or refuse to. Give evidence?

    • @dunebasher1971
      @dunebasher1971 Рік тому +1

      @nieooj gotoy In order to explain that, we would need full access to both the prosecution and defence cases, and the judge's sentencing remarks. Can you provide that? Without that information, it's obviously impossible to know what happened and why.

    • @tomahern1649
      @tomahern1649 Рік тому

      💯👍👏

    • @keithcrooks7217
      @keithcrooks7217 Рік тому

      Clary?

  • @stumpytkd1774
    @stumpytkd1774 Рік тому +9

    My friend got stabbed in the chest in a unprovoked attack missed his heart by 10mm his attacker got three months sentence and he had a previous conviction for ABH

    • @arthurdaly3497
      @arthurdaly3497 Рік тому

      But that is not as bad as making a comedy sketch about someone

  • @bertibear1300
    @bertibear1300 2 роки тому +115

    Anyone with common sense and morals can see this is not justice.

    • @dobr4481
      @dobr4481 Рік тому

      Anyone with common sense and morals does not support Belfield. Regardless of the apparent severity of his sentence the man is a toxic & obnoxious shit-stirrer. Perhaps his sentence will act as a deterrent to all the other self appointed 'voices of reason' on social media. Belfield is just one of many voices of the Right Wing whose words have prompted their followers to act violently. Hopkins behind bars next, where she belongs.

    • @gilllarr9285
      @gilllarr9285 Рік тому

      Should he have been in longer do you think?

  • @richill9369
    @richill9369 2 роки тому +1575

    I’m no fan of his and find his content mostly offensive/tedious, but this is an extremely harsh and excessive sentence for what was essentially online haranguing. There are much worse crimes that are given less severe sentences. I can’t help but feel there is a political motivation here.

    • @Denali1600
      @Denali1600 2 роки тому +31

      I thought his videos were about abusing celebrities and their kids for laughs. Did he do politics?

    • @SaxonSuccess
      @SaxonSuccess 2 роки тому +41

      I think it was more than online haranguing.

    • @cmdrbk5460
      @cmdrbk5460 2 роки тому +152

      Not saying AB is innocent but there are people who have tried to get real life stalkers stopped. The police ignore them and they end up murdered by their stalker. If you are famous though it's a different story.

    • @richill9369
      @richill9369 2 роки тому +38

      @@SaxonSuccess comparatively excessive though

    • @esecallum
      @esecallum 2 роки тому +144

      exactly doing GBH will get you 6 months barely but this 5 years !!! outrageous

  • @QuarkTheMagnificent
    @QuarkTheMagnificent 2 роки тому +233

    Why consecutive rather than concurrent? A burglar breaks into 4 houses - 4 SEPARATE CRIMES but usually sentenced either as a job lot or for 1 with 3 other offences taken into account. Personally I think he needs to appeal to either get the sentences to run concurrently or preferably suspended. And perhaps even to pull the mental health card from the deck in mitigation as many others do?
    And had the cases arrived at court SEPARATELY would they have presented as being of merit to prosecute? And WHY 8 cases - 4 guilty - 4 not guilty - all brought at the same time after such a long time? And of course the 'star witness' weeping in the witness box! Was he the leading light to bring the cases as the best known individual. Who arguably stalks motorists on a daily basis with the assistance of gopro!
    If KP can escape jail after breeching a restraining order - then what the blazes is going on?

    • @janetclark9366
      @janetclark9366 2 роки тому

      What's going on Alex belfield hasn't got freemasons behind him BBC courts etc etc are all freemasons do your stupid hand signs You're free to go

    • @tech10k14
      @tech10k14 2 роки тому +28

      He's a political dissenter. He is being made an example of.

    • @davidstephen6753
      @davidstephen6753 2 роки тому +19

      @@tech10k14 He's not a political dissenter. He's a narcissistic bully who can turn a phrase. I've watched plenty of his youtube stuff and, whilst he occasionally has a point, his focus is always himself and how society doesn't work in the way that he wants.

    • @MaitreMark
      @MaitreMark 2 роки тому

      he should have given the mental health card in the hearing instead of not taking questions.

    • @davidstephen6753
      @davidstephen6753 2 роки тому +12

      @@MaitreMark No he shouldn't. A little research into the case and you quickly see an establishing series of behaviours. He is a disturbed, possibly dangerous bully who like to whip others up to do much of his harassment for him. He's gotten exactly what he deserves.

  • @patthewoodboy
    @patthewoodboy 2 роки тому +12

    Theres something going on that we dont know about . I wasnt in court , but 5 1/2 years is obviously a bit odd. I was threaten by a neighbour , he said hes going to rip my head off (it wasnt the first time) I called the police and they told me they werent interested.

  • @18T220
    @18T220 2 роки тому +93

    He got a worst sentence than some rapists.. for sending rude emails.

    • @davidburrows4801
      @davidburrows4801 2 роки тому +2

      Except he did a lot worse than that.from what I've heard.

    • @thoughtsonfitness3249
      @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidburrows4801 what we ‘hear’ and what we see are two different view points. One is fact, the other is not!

    • @davidburrows4801
      @davidburrows4801 2 роки тому

      @Shaolin Style ua-cam.com/video/U_Pebk7uygA/v-deo.html

    • @davidburrows4801
      @davidburrows4801 2 роки тому

      @@thoughtsonfitness3249 ,well there's victims of him on you tube saying what he did

    • @thoughtsonfitness3249
      @thoughtsonfitness3249 2 роки тому

      @@davidburrows4801 are you really a ‘lamb to the slaughter’ ? I doubt that you are?? on UA-cam I can ‘create a perfect life’, we all know it’s fake! Do your own research. These ‘victims’ you mention, who are they? and who do they really work for??

  • @MichaelGeorge161
    @MichaelGeorge161 2 роки тому +149

    There is something very fishy about this sentence, I feel like they are trying to deter people who say the wrong thing

    • @lucyallsop88
      @lucyallsop88 2 роки тому +7

      Exactly that!

    • @mnbv990
      @mnbv990 2 роки тому +3

      agreed Michael.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +3

      Scapegoat comes to mind.

    • @robbierabz8862
      @robbierabz8862 2 роки тому +6

      And deter people who harass people for years with 1000s of emails, contacting their pregnant wives and elderly mothers to further alarm them as well. That's the main deterrent here as I see it.

    • @lesley1174
      @lesley1174 2 роки тому +2

      @@robbierabz8862
      Correct the number of deluded who are rattling on about free speech and political sentence have no clue. If it was as they claim it would have been a full house of guiltys and a 20+ year sentence. With the tariffs available to the judge he got away quite leniently.

  • @rangerwhite5165
    @rangerwhite5165 2 роки тому +206

    This sentence seems extremely excessive. There are people who have committed violent crimes and not been given these sort of sentences.

    • @davidpayne7898
      @davidpayne7898 2 роки тому

      We'll it was Jeremy vine haha

    • @juiceterry5330
      @juiceterry5330 2 роки тому

      He took on the BBC what do you expect

    • @davidstephen6753
      @davidstephen6753 2 роки тому +4

      The sentence is in line with his behaviour. You have only listened to his side of the case.

    • @happyguy5414
      @happyguy5414 2 роки тому

      He got exactly what he deserved 👍🏻

    • @rogerwoodhouse7945
      @rogerwoodhouse7945 2 роки тому

      'Thought crimes' trump violent ones it seems( particularly when a certain demographic are involved)

  • @paulyflyer8154
    @paulyflyer8154 2 роки тому +23

    Whether you like Alex or not, remember that this sentence could affect you too. You can now get a long custodial sentence for upsetting someone's feelings or "causing distress". Dangerous times indeed.

    • @mr_dunne_author
      @mr_dunne_author 2 роки тому

      I ended up remanded in Chelmsford & my story banned at Crown for exposing family child ab*se..

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 2 роки тому +1

      I don't understand all the people who so clearly revel in this outcome do exactly what Alex was prosecuted for.
      I don't know why they think this monster won't come for them.

    • @zantas-handle
      @zantas-handle 2 роки тому +4

      This verdict does not mean that you or I will get 5 years for a few nasty comments - Bellfield ran a10 year campaign of harassment for multiple victims. There are plenty of people on here posting critical videos or making nasty comments. The difference is that Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of their kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.

    • @Retrobeemer
      @Retrobeemer Рік тому +1

      @@zantas-handle Don't bother with facts. They want to believe he's a martyr and all he did was say some ''hurty words''. They don't want to believe he took them for thousands in ''donations'' either, or that he threatened to ''out'' a gay man despite his own sexual ambiguity. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • @keithcrooks7217
      @keithcrooks7217 Рік тому +1

      @@zantas-handle Yes, those were the parts of his long-running, vengeful campaign which cannot be so easily justified. Bringing in kids' photos with vile addenda isindicative of what a vile clown he is. Worse, he was never even slightly amusing.

  • @krissymarklewis1793
    @krissymarklewis1793 2 роки тому +157

    I think that's far over the top, the police had it in for him.

    • @krissymarklewis1793
      @krissymarklewis1793 2 роки тому +7

      It should have been 2 years suspended at best.

    • @ostrichman
      @ostrichman 2 роки тому +1

      @@krissymarklewis1793 i dunno, he'll do a year or so and get out, seems fair enough to me

    • @ianashton1593
      @ianashton1593 2 роки тому +2

      Am no fan of AB but I’m inclined to agree. Didn’t the police turn up with their numbers removed and break down his door without giving him chance to open it. They also took electronic equipment and were totally inept and did a lot of bullying themselves if the stories he told were factual. What I really don’t get with this kind of thing is you can block emails, you don’t have to view his content so unless he was physically going after these people face to face the sentence seems very harsh. Strikes me they are making an example of him !

    • @krissymarklewis1793
      @krissymarklewis1793 2 роки тому +1

      @@ostrichman I agree, seems harsh though when paedos get less.

    • @ostrichman
      @ostrichman 2 роки тому

      @@ianashton1593 no they didnt break down the door, hes a liar, why are you still believing whats hes told you when he inside now for being a complete fantasist stalker?

  • @lesliereed4047
    @lesliereed4047 2 роки тому +401

    I am totally devastated by this sentence. This is political. He was exposing the non-jail sentences of police officers and establishment figures on a daily basis, some of whom had committed serious sexual offences. They had to shut him up.

    • @mentaldavethefirst
      @mentaldavethefirst 2 роки тому +44

      What a load of utter horseshite. How in the hell is contacting the clients of a wedding photographer and using the photo of his 2 year old child with the word liar written over it exposing police and establishment figures? The man is a disgusting hideous bully,. A truly foul individual and defending him only raises serious questions about your own character

    • @MrLeekicker
      @MrLeekicker 2 роки тому

      The man is an absolute maggot...The best news I've had in ages and I'm so glad he's been locked up. When a man is so bitter and hateful, the best place for him is behind bars to protect the rest of us from his bilious and odious stalky behaviour!

    • @metalicminer6231
      @metalicminer6231 2 роки тому +11

      The irony is Alex had full Faith in the crown Court, maybe if he didn't block anyone who was slightly anti monarchy, he would have learned something... Shame, voice of reason and free speech my arse.

    • @verairemonger1260
      @verairemonger1260 2 роки тому +17

      Yes, Leslie Reed, he was actually doing some PROPER, REAL journalism, not like the @BBC, Jeremy Vine, or the Nottingham Post do. Showing them all up for what they are.

    • @ridanann
      @ridanann 2 роки тому

      @@mentaldavethefirst ok now work your body you're doing great champ lol TKO f****** over

  • @raykay9111
    @raykay9111 2 роки тому +86

    That was a “heed the warning “ sentence. They must have been rubbing their hands in glee when he decided to rep himself. I know he comes across as headstrong but Somebody should have stepped in right at the get go and told him that representing himself was stupid, not crazy, stupid. He has to appeal this sentence, it’s truly draconian.

    • @cocobean7519
      @cocobean7519 Рік тому +1

      I think that if Bellend got out on appeal.....he’d get straight back onto the mic & do the same again!! He is that stupid!

    • @Weird-City
      @Weird-City Рік тому +2

      It's a heed the warning sentence as you say. He will be out shortly when the sentence is "reviewed" during appeal. The media has spread the word and the "chilling effect" is in place. His release will gain little attention from the media.

    • @bruceshaw2402
      @bruceshaw2402 Рік тому

      According to this youtube channel he is not allowed to appeal , but either way the jail sentence is in reality 2years and 9 months the other 2years and 9 months is out of prison on licence, he was stupid to represent himself but that was his choice .

  • @garygranato9164
    @garygranato9164 Рік тому +36

    there needs to be an investigation into the judges and prosecution. *HOW CAN WE TRUST THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AFTER THIS*

    • @DuncYo
      @DuncYo Рік тому

      Be thankful YOU weren’t mentally tortured for a decade! He carried on and on and on. No more though 👍👍👍

    • @DuncYo
      @DuncYo Рік тому

      UKIP by any chance ?! Seems to be mainly people with zero compassion!

  • @Yorkyscott
    @Yorkyscott 2 роки тому +229

    The sentencing shows what happens when you aren't obedient and speak up against our backwards system. Very scary

    • @Em-im1yz
      @Em-im1yz Рік тому +14

      No it shows what happens when you stalk multiple people. Hes a life ruiner

    • @paulcroxton6047
      @paulcroxton6047 Рік тому

      He spent 10 years stalking people, and their kids....How would you feel if it was you and your kids and family....No doubt A bellfields worshippers, who blindly follow him, allowing him to graft 300k out of them think it's exposing corruption..Lol Think about it, you don't need a hero to see the corruption going on....Try standing alone , and thinking......Thinkers don't follow a mass , I certainly refuse to follow anyone....Don't need a leader or hero

    • @philjones6054
      @philjones6054 Рік тому +9

      @@Em-im1yz Sorry, but you can't condone this sort of jail time, it's utterly disproportionate. I detest AB, but this is insane.

    • @gumusluk05
      @gumusluk05 Рік тому +1

      You're critical thinking skills are sadly lacking

    • @Yorkyscott
      @Yorkyscott Рік тому +3

      @@gumusluk05
      Please explain your last statement

  • @bananabanana8831
    @bananabanana8831 2 роки тому +238

    Belfields biggest mistake was representing himself , the evidence against him seemed very weak im sure professional representation would have won the case

    • @ostrichman
      @ostrichman 2 роки тому

      his biggest mistake was stalking people for years and years

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому

      If he had just gone guilty from the beginning he never would have had a custodial sentence.
      Tbf he got what he deserved.

    • @constantlyenthused336
      @constantlyenthused336 2 роки тому +14

      I thought he’d paid a lawyer to represent him? What was the lawyer for? Or am I missing something

    • @ineedgunslotsofguns
      @ineedgunslotsofguns 2 роки тому

      His arrogance and stupidity got him jailed. What was the idiot thinking?

    • @steve10
      @steve10 2 роки тому

      whether you represent yourself or not , should hold no water in any defence ,, your words if truthful and evidence should be what affects the case ,, this would mean anyone who couldnt afford top representation and you get a poor free one would mean you stand no chance anyway ,, the court system in this country is about big words , lies and manipulation by any barrister who will do anything to win , if their client is guilty , they will lie through their teeth to get them off and its the same for the prosecution
      The whole system is a game between people being paid huge fees to not find the truth , its to manipulate a jury with zero experience in criminal cases , and whoever does that the best despite evidence wins
      We should be allowed to represent ourselves , we should be allowed to tell our truths ,, not have to rely on someone we have to pay huge amounts for just to word it properly or manipulate
      the amount of millionaire prosecutors who will have sent innocent people to prison because they were up against a cheap defence put in by the state is appalling and the whole thing needs sorting

  • @themoviejunky3918
    @themoviejunky3918 2 роки тому +382

    This is truly an utterly insane judgment.

    • @radicalcartoons2766
      @radicalcartoons2766 2 роки тому +19

      No, it's a very deliberate judgement. It's a warning to all of us online, whether we are cartoonists, satirists, comedians or youtubers, or just making comments, who dare to expose and lampoon "the great and the good".

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +24

      This is a political sentence.

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +7

      Insane for common sense. This is a warning to all that speak against the establishment.

    • @johannesbols57
      @johannesbols57 2 роки тому +2

      And stalking people and cyber bullying them is... sane?

    • @thelizzyman4831
      @thelizzyman4831 2 роки тому

      Maybe a suspended sentence would have been enough.

  • @Valelacerte
    @Valelacerte 2 роки тому +2

    Gang rapists are not getting such severe sentences. 5 ½ years for cyber stalking?!! This is an utter travesty of justice.

  • @michaelbird3887
    @michaelbird3887 2 роки тому +599

    I am a layman and I am 78, and this is one of very few cases of any description I recall where sentences have been made consecutive. If you kill four times you get four "life" sentences which are often partially concurrent. We don't seem to go for the American 99 years approach. I feel this could well be worth an appeal, considering you can get "life" and be out in seven. It seems disproportionate to me.

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +134

      An excellent point. This is a Political Sentence if ever I saw one.

    • @jons9721
      @jons9721 2 роки тому +24

      Only when the crimes are against the same victim or closely related in some other way, these were against completely separate victims

    • @jons9721
      @jons9721 2 роки тому

      @@monkeypox9757 If you kill 4 people on different occasions you should really be tried separately on each one. They all carry life sentences and I'm sure the minimum tariff will consider the multiple murders as an aggravating factor

    • @pam-gw6uk
      @pam-gw6uk 2 роки тому +9

      @@andipeters743 Definitely.

    • @jayturner3397
      @jayturner3397 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly good sir

  • @jackburgess8579
    @jackburgess8579 2 роки тому +41

    Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months.
    The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.

    • @radman8321
      @radman8321 2 роки тому

      Did you watch the BBB video? A one punch manslaughter is invariably a heat of the moment unplanned crime. The harassment was to many victims, perpetrated for a very long time. That takes the culpability factor up considerably. The sentence for one incidence of serious harassment is up to 12 years so the fact that he got 5 years for the two counts is a bit of a let off for him. He'll be out in a couple of years, hopefully having learned a valuable lesson about trying to make people's lives a misery for his own gain. You don't think youtube creators do it for kicks do you?

  • @kevinberry4949
    @kevinberry4949 2 роки тому +171

    Absolutely disgraceful sentence, hurt feelings carry more penalties than serious violence . British justice is just a joke these days

    • @zantas-handle
      @zantas-handle 2 роки тому +9

      More than 'hurt feelings' in this case if you read the court transcripts. Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of his victim's kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.

    • @matoko123
      @matoko123 Рік тому

      Don't mess with the establishment is the message here. By that I mean judges, the BBC, the police. If you do choose to question them make sure you're not a white, heterosexual British male or they will punish you and punish you hard!

    • @Sim0n98
      @Sim0n98 Рік тому +6

      "Hurt feelings"
      Dude, do some actual research

    • @DuncYo
      @DuncYo Рік тому

      THINK!!

    • @pw6295
      @pw6295 Рік тому

      He's been made an example of for the woke brigade. Katie Hopkins sums this up perfectly. ua-cam.com/video/WPL5O66OZsI/v-deo.html

  • @bobmurphy9380
    @bobmurphy9380 Рік тому +26

    Unfortunately for Alex he had a big red cross on his back, the same as Tommy for telling the truth. When you are drilling down and getting closer to what is really going on, this is what happens.

  • @craiglinford1604
    @craiglinford1604 2 роки тому +85

    When someone who kills someone or several people even with dangerous driving gets a shorter sentence than Alex bellfield then you know this is highly suspicious.. I’ve seen violent criminals inflict horrendous injury against their victims and escape prison .. one punch deaths suspects get two years .. the fact this barrister spends so much time giving reasons why the judge came to his sentencing decision shows his real viewpoint despite him denying he has an opinion on this .. we all know judges have guidelines you don’t need to be a barrister to know that .. yet time and time again judges ignore the guidelines and allow violent criminals to walk free or get a very short sentence so don’t spout your nonsense about judges following guidelines because they ignore then time and time again .. I see at the end of this video this barrister is even trying to tell us that by us disagreeing with the judge we are ignoring the facts .. .. Alex bellfield got done over .. we don’t need to go to law school to see that

    • @tonebonetones
      @tonebonetones 2 роки тому +8

      Well said. I also detect our dear barrister friend defending the indefensible, somewhat, here.

    • @raecattell7680
      @raecattell7680 2 роки тому +2

      Well said.

    • @TerribleFire
      @TerribleFire 2 роки тому

      A killer usually hires a lawyer. Alex is too smug for that. Got exactly what he deserved for his stupidity

    • @suzannec4765
      @suzannec4765 2 роки тому +3

      Amen to that. The law is all smoke and mirrors.

    • @suzannec4765
      @suzannec4765 2 роки тому +1

      And Alex should not have self-represented. Utter madness. But really they count on us being naïve.

  • @WhiteUnicorn82
    @WhiteUnicorn82 2 роки тому +73

    This is a warning to all that even think about standing up for what's right, and for their self.

  • @radicalcartoons2766
    @radicalcartoons2766 2 роки тому +36

    I've said on GETTR, this Judge would either protect free speech in Britain or bury it, I think we can all see which he chose.

    • @stephenhogg6154
      @stephenhogg6154 2 роки тому +1

      @@dwayne_dibley Criticism on social media is.

    • @mr_dunne_author
      @mr_dunne_author 2 роки тому

      The judge at Crown told me there is no such thing as freedom of speech here before banning my life story for 5 years...

  • @annielovestheroyalfamily3
    @annielovestheroyalfamily3 Рік тому +10

    We need to sign petition. We need to contact minister for justice. We need to do SOMETHING!

    • @Retrobeemer
      @Retrobeemer Рік тому

      *Why? He plead guilty and is a nasty little man who's made people's lives a misery for years. Can you imagine what it would be like if I messaged you every day between now and February 2033? A decade of insults, threats and constant digs, no matter how many times you tried to block me. Imagine me using a picture of your child that I stole and threatening you both. Every single day for the next ten years despite all your efforts to block me. What sort of person would even do that?*

  • @TheDAT9
    @TheDAT9 2 роки тому +370

    We know how the judge got there. Nobody is more corruptible than the legal "profession".

    • @dorbie
      @dorbie 2 роки тому +1

      Yup, especially the English justice system with all the gongs of privilege that they like to hand out. As if the Depp fiasco wasn't shameful enough.

    • @roberttaylor6075
      @roberttaylor6075 2 роки тому +1

      100%, corruption is rife in the legal sector, solicitors barristers and judges all drink from the same trough. Most attend the same masonic lodges and are as bent as they come.

    • @TheDAT9
      @TheDAT9 2 роки тому +12

      @@roberttaylor6075 I have a solicitor, and barrister as neighbours. I avoid them. I also have a joiner who lives next door, we get on fine.

    • @madwhitehare3635
      @madwhitehare3635 2 роки тому +6

      Blimey. Harsh and rude, considering where you’re posting.

    • @patrickh8602
      @patrickh8602 2 роки тому +2

      Why are you watching this channel if you have such a low opinion of the legal profession?

  • @lizardruby1573
    @lizardruby1573 2 роки тому +59

    There’s something dodgy going on behind the scenes in all this, as others have said the length of the sentence is too extreme for the crime. I hope Alex appeals and gets the sentence reduced.

  • @McSynth
    @McSynth 2 роки тому +427

    Utterly outrageous. People get far less for infinitely more serious crimes daily.

    • @terencejay8845
      @terencejay8845 2 роки тому +11

      I am totally shocked by this outrageous sentence. I'd followed all this as closely as I could but even during the court case I was unsure of who did what, to when, and to whom. Either I'm missing some hugely critical point that only the court heard, or I've mis-read the entire situation. Was there a threat to kill, or maim? Not that I recall. Doorstep altercations requiring police intervention you would normally expect in a stalking case? The only doorstep altercation I saw was the Tactical Police chainsawing his front door in half. I'm baffled. Having heard the Guilty verdict, which surprised me, I had expected maybe a six-month sentence, suspended as so many are, and an appeal and further court action by Mr Belfield. What on earth is going on here?

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 2 роки тому +7

      what about and appeal with all that money that was granted, this time hiring a professional to represent him to get him out of this mess.

    • @andynjw1163
      @andynjw1163 2 роки тому +6

      There's a lot I suspect we don't know about but five and a half years seems harsh no doubt they'll be an appeal.

    • @jackjude
      @jackjude 2 роки тому +9

      He's a stalker and fraudster. The maximum tariff was 21 years. He will be out in two and bit.

    • @ProductionJMac
      @ProductionJMac 2 роки тому +2

      Which bit is outrageous, the fact that people seem to get less for more serious crimes. I agree with you on that point. Or the fact Alex got 5 and a half years? Personally I think that's a fair sentence, plenty of people think he should have got more and that he got off lightly.

  • @Ladyjojo695
    @Ladyjojo695 2 роки тому +17

    The whole system is broken imo. My ex stalked all he’s exes including myself plus actual violence towards my son and self. Breaking in and other things. But the police did absolutely nothing. I cannot understand our system at all. It’s ridiculous. Ty for explaining. I don’t feel he deserved that much time.

    • @Taz6688
      @Taz6688 Рік тому +1

      I seen the same, including putting app's on a childs tablet and using it to hound someone, I assure you if you had enough money, you would have got a different outcome, the rich always get a better legal system, lack of fund dictates the final outcome.

    • @Ladyjojo695
      @Ladyjojo695 Рік тому

      @@Taz6688 💯
      The same applies when my son with asd was bullied by a teacher and locked in a room. The damage she caused to him and still allowed to teach. If I had money she couldn’t of got away with it. It’s disgusting

  • @danielholroyd1360
    @danielholroyd1360 2 роки тому +179

    The system screwed him for speaking out, when I heard he was representing him self I didn’t think it would end well, but no way expected 5 year plus

    • @enjek5654
      @enjek5654 2 роки тому +3

      No, he was sent to jail for stalking.

    • @ProTroll_UK
      @ProTroll_UK 2 роки тому

      Just desserts…..

    • @John1873--
      @John1873-- 2 роки тому

      @@enjek5654 some people seem to equate stalking, to "sending some cheeky emails".

    • @sallynicholas1
      @sallynicholas1 2 роки тому

      @@enjek5654 its not ssalking its for taking the piss out of the cult god bless

    • @enjek5654
      @enjek5654 2 роки тому

      @@John1873-- Who?

  • @kaycee625
    @kaycee625 2 роки тому +199

    Stalking is never to be tolerated but Alex’s downfall was relentlessly mocking a police force. The Brotherhood have come together to show poor Alex who’s boss.

    • @jimbojagv8541
      @jimbojagv8541 2 роки тому +22

      Absolutely true... masons stick together

    • @whathappenedtomyYThandle
      @whathappenedtomyYThandle 2 роки тому +14

      They did break down his door, and repeatedly followed him, wrote e-mails which prompted the broadcasts.

    • @johnfrancis2215
      @johnfrancis2215 2 роки тому

      @@whathappenedtomyYThandle absolutely, the police used excessive force, if we had a fair legal system it would be the plods standing trial but I'm afraid this country or should I say caliphate is well and truly screwed

    • @johnjephcote7636
      @johnjephcote7636 2 роки тому +7

      I remember, years ago now, that The Monocled Mutinier (starring Paul McGann) was never screened again after two shewings. The story of a Nottinghamshire miner's son who impersonated First War officers, joined the Etaples mutiny and was hounded by the Establishment after the war and killed by the Police (a true story). It still rankles the Powers in the High Castle.

    • @elvishards8161
      @elvishards8161 2 роки тому +3

      And the public could purge the thin blue line in 24hrs

  • @wardrutherford5669
    @wardrutherford5669 2 роки тому +223

    There must surely be appeal. The evidence for the four counts he was convicted of is flimsy. The subtextual conviction is for daring to square up to the BBC - I realise BBB’s tongue will be tied to an extent here and his commentary must be judicious but - and I find a fair few of AB’s politics unpalatable - the fact he was calling out celebs in public online shouldn’t have merited this punishment. Appeal, appeal, a-fucking-ppeal!!!!

    • @ian260672
      @ian260672 2 роки тому +5

      He wasn't punished for calling out celebs in public online, he was punished for 10 years of stalking by E-mail. Private E-mails (not public) and hundreds of them, not flimsy whatsoever.
      I did think it was harsh at first but 10 YEARS is a long time to stalk someone and now I actually find it correct. I'd understand If it wasn't a long time and only 1 person but 10 years and 4 people now it makes sense.

    • @711honved
      @711honved 2 роки тому +4

      Belfield took thousands in legal expenses from his subscribers & spent the money on holidays & other luxury goods. He then decided to represent himself in court. His hubris was his ultimate undoing.

    • @meganjperry9489
      @meganjperry9489 2 роки тому

      Read this and you maybe a little better informed, though judging by your comment, I'm not holding up much hope. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf

    • @Atheist272
      @Atheist272 2 роки тому +4

      @@711honvedwhat is your Evidence for these claims that this money has been mis used

    • @verairemonger1260
      @verairemonger1260 2 роки тому +8

      @@ian260672 It was a stretch to call it stalking. I'm surprised they had the gall and astonished they made it stick. Some of these people were mad as a box of frogs to begin with and needed a psychiatrist long before they encountered Alex. They also needed to grow up, man up and remember - sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can NEVER hurt you. They also play acted. Very, very badly. Like Swine with his 'Savile of trolling'. The judge should have told him off for that, instead he now thinks he's a great wit. Instead of a great shit.

  • @michaelhawkins4005
    @michaelhawkins4005 2 роки тому +7

    One of the darkest days in living memory! Even the ones celebrating need to be afraid, very afraid! The justice system should hang its head in shame! Nobody is safe now!

  • @sunrise-wl6cb
    @sunrise-wl6cb 2 роки тому +77

    He made an example of it. Total injustice an utter and total disgrace of misuse of the powers .

  • @Chris-ty7fw
    @Chris-ty7fw 2 роки тому +80

    Basically 5 1/2 years for bullying if they applied this in schools that would get rid of a lot of kids.
    Didn't the police recently fail to turn up for 3 days for some kids beating the hell out of their victims.

    • @staceyraven3058
      @staceyraven3058 2 роки тому +2

      Bullying. That's exactly what it is. 🤨🙄

    • @eliakimjosephsophia4542
      @eliakimjosephsophia4542 2 роки тому +7

      They took ten days to turn up when I called the police and that then escalated the situation. Still no justice, none of the perpetrators were arrested.

  • @davesmith6002
    @davesmith6002 2 роки тому +67

    I can't believe it, murderers get less than that.

    • @rob.1
      @rob.1 2 роки тому +2

      No they dont

    • @maryginger4877
      @maryginger4877 2 роки тому +6

      @@rob.1 I've seen it with my own eyes, as a witness to a horrific murder I found out 3 years latter they got out of prison...

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +1

      Murderers do not get out of jail after two and a half years. That’s utter nonsense.

    • @johnmcdonald9295
      @johnmcdonald9295 2 роки тому +1

      @@ElementsMMA Muhammad igboner got 4 years for murd sean woodburn

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnmcdonald9295 I shall not argue whether or not it SHOULD have been considered murder, as that is a different discussion.
      However, the fact is that Igboner was not convicted of murder. Please do not spin, we have mainstream media doing enough of that in this country..

  • @christopherlefevre2263
    @christopherlefevre2263 Рік тому +8

    Good video. But if all of us declined to give opinions on sentences because they are 'subjective' the questions arises - what makes a Judge's opinion when sentencing 'objective'? There must always be questions asked and opinions given when, as many have pointed out below, the sentence appears to be overly harsh or inconsistent. The judiciary are hardly devoid of their own subjectivities.

  • @markjones8249
    @markjones8249 2 роки тому +109

    This reeks of Belfield being made an example of.

    • @beaulieuonnp593
      @beaulieuonnp593 2 роки тому +5

      as someone who has been stalked, good

    • @andipeters743
      @andipeters743 2 роки тому +8

      A Political Sentence if ever there was one.

    • @annirvin6555
      @annirvin6555 2 роки тому +5

      @@andipeters743 just like Tommy Robinson.
      Locked up for rattling the bones

    • @JamesSmith-qy3eu
      @JamesSmith-qy3eu 2 роки тому

      @@annirvin6555 Robinson hasn't conned anyone out of money, unlike Bellend.

    • @sav7568
      @sav7568 2 роки тому

      Yes, just like Tommy Robinson.

  • @Cooking_Patty55
    @Cooking_Patty55 2 роки тому +314

    I used to watch him through the lockdown, he was funny, Britian had it bad with the lockdowns, and he called poiliticans out, something the opposition wasn't doing, it was his opinion, I guess the rules are different there, but 5 and a half years is ludicrous

    • @ostrichman
      @ostrichman 2 роки тому +13

      he was sentenced for stalking people not that garbage youre on about

    • @KeithJD
      @KeithJD 2 роки тому +9

      @@ostrichman Al Capone was jailed for tax evasion.

    • @metalicminer6231
      @metalicminer6231 2 роки тому +1

      I spotted him earlier, he's a royalist nutcase, voice of reason and free speech my arse, he blocked thousands of people.

    • @Number6_
      @Number6_ 2 роки тому +1

      What opposition. Labour and tory are on the same side a 2 headed coin. We haven't heard a single word out of jeromy corbyn or his supporters or followers in the last 3 years! He has sunk back into the background of which he has done nothing, but collect a fat salary for the previous 30 year. Talk about a job for life. He's alright Jack and the only one who is! The same can be said for the rest of these wool sack mps . 900 at last count in including the unelected lords all on a £100000 a year or better.

    • @goobagooba8448
      @goobagooba8448 2 роки тому +14

      People aren't asking the main questions. The ones that actually affect the people.
      Why was he representing himself in court, if he'd raised 100's of thousands of pounds from the public, for "legal fees"? Other than constant trips to Las Vegas (a known mecca for gambling) and hookers and strippers (also very expensive in Las Vegas) and first class flights around the world, and a house looking more and more lavish by the day, and obviously, his trustee jacuzzi, where did all the money for "legal fees" go? And once again, why was he forced to represent himself in court?

  • @colinfryett8174
    @colinfryett8174 2 роки тому +67

    Absolute disgrace of a sentence" sex offenders get less for doing far worse

    • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
      @rsmickeymooproductions4877 2 роки тому +4

      True, a disgrace.

    • @enduser63
      @enduser63 2 роки тому

      Two squaddies that unprovoked nearly battered to death an innocent member of the public got two and four concurrent , I don't understand or stand under such a corrupt banking/court system. It's all bollocks

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +2

      Why are people referencing sex offenders? Seems a running theme

    • @enduser63
      @enduser63 2 роки тому

      @@ElementsMMA there's also that duo of out and out thugs that nearly killed an innocent member of the public totally unprovoked got,four years two years and two years to run concurrently and two years youth custody for the other. These two maimed for life the victim. He has to rely on benefits, had to wait over six years for any compensation that totalled around£7500 no justice for the permanent injuries caused by two members of uk armed service

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому

      @@enduser63 there’s also OJ Simpson who got away with killing his wife and her lover. What is the connection here?

  • @bugatti1075
    @bugatti1075 Рік тому +5

    I know someone who's ex was killed at 25 by a guy who was over the limit,speeding and ran a red light. The guy was given 3 years. The worst part is the same person had already killed another man in his own country a few years before coming to the UK.

  • @niksgee
    @niksgee 2 роки тому +420

    He has an audience, they are using him to set an example. How dare he stand up to the establishment. Or to expose the truth of their ways...

    • @michaelmarron8441
      @michaelmarron8441 2 роки тому +8

      Belfield is also alleged to have obtained a victim's mother's contact details, made a phone call to the victim's mother, covertly recorded the conversation and tried to blackmail the victim to do what he wanted, with the threat of posting the audio recording online if he refused to do so.

    • @markb3915
      @markb3915 2 роки тому +5

      @ Nik. Truth through the lens of a very angry, bitter and unbalanced, ex employee.

    • @mubbles1066
      @mubbles1066 2 роки тому

      He’s a vicious,manipulative blackmailing stalker….he ripped his fan base off for cash and lied to their faces..this nasty piece of 💩got everything that he deserved,don’t waste a moment’s sympathy on this waste of space.

    • @jameswestover8403
      @jameswestover8403 2 роки тому +6

      @@michaelmarron8441 2 years ago the above was thrown out of court and the perpatraitor was not charged but protected

    • @tonyryan1574
      @tonyryan1574 2 роки тому +3

      @@michaelmarron8441 alleged??? In other words it never happened and had no impact on his ridiculous sentence.

  • @jameselliott8203
    @jameselliott8203 2 роки тому +354

    I wonder what the overall figures are for similar cases ?Maybe he'd have got less if he'd have physically assaulted those people ?Madness

    • @roybradley764
      @roybradley764 2 роки тому +10

      he should have never represented himself and not taking the stand was a stupid tactic . hes had a few nice holidays with all the money he conned out of his so called family

    • @jackburgess8579
      @jackburgess8579 2 роки тому +16

      Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months.
      The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.

    • @steve10
      @steve10 2 роки тому +14

      he might have been let out had he darkened his skin and said he was part of a criminal group that starts with B and ends in M and somewhere has an L in there

    • @ElementsMMA
      @ElementsMMA 2 роки тому +7

      Bearing in mind he stalked his victims over a course of ten years. Assaults don’t usually last for ten years.

    • @ruthbashford3176
      @ruthbashford3176 2 роки тому +11

      @@ElementsMMA No assaults don't last ten years and sending emails is not stalking.

  • @almcdonald8676
    @almcdonald8676 2 роки тому +26

    We’re fast approaching the point where a journalist asking difficult questions faces jail for offending powerful people

    • @karenpearson8916
      @karenpearson8916 2 роки тому

      what questions did belfiels ask?

    • @almcdonald8676
      @almcdonald8676 2 роки тому

      Interesting to hear from a closet authoritarian who supports jail for someone who hurts their fee fees.

  • @marcuslewis1890
    @marcuslewis1890 Рік тому +4

    Amazing! 5 1/2 years for that?
    I’ve spoken to Alex in person, he is genuinely a nice guy, his heart is in the right place. He just wants to take down the establishment!

  • @andrewgilbertson5356
    @andrewgilbertson5356 2 роки тому +265

    This is harsh , I think. Physical stalkers often receive non custodial sentences . For me I’d have thought a suspended prison sentence would have been better. As it was agreed in court that there was no physical act therefore the threat of violence was not likely.

    • @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810
      @kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah. That’s why you aren’t a judge

    • @andyforshaw8489
      @andyforshaw8489 2 роки тому +11

      He pleaded not guilty. So that put more on his sentence.

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 2 роки тому

      @@kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 Judges are politically compromised. We no longer have an impartial judicial system

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 2 роки тому +17

      @@andyforshaw8489
      He also showed no contrition, no regret, no measure of culpability and continued to declare his innocence by dint of his arrogance if not his rather more careful rhetoric since the verdict. He fully expected a suspended sentence, which would have been no punishment at all for the arrogant Mr Belfield.

    • @staceyraven3058
      @staceyraven3058 2 роки тому +2

      Most physical stalkers know their victim. This means the victim generally knows that they mean no harm. It's surely worse when you don't know what they are capable of?

  • @davidmoriarty3606
    @davidmoriarty3606 2 роки тому +70

    I went through bullying at school for many years. This caused me great REAL stress. Can I get the bullies jailed for life, please?

    • @chrissowerby69
      @chrissowerby69 2 роки тому +14

      If you have BBC friends then you can

    • @davidmoriarty3606
      @davidmoriarty3606 2 роки тому +2

      @@chrissowerby69 sorry, fresh out, I'm afraid.

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 2 роки тому +2

      @@chrissowerby69 Beat me to it!

    • @swamp2thebonegames14
      @swamp2thebonegames14 2 роки тому +4

      If you could tick certain boxes...... probably

    • @davidmoriarty3606
      @davidmoriarty3606 2 роки тому +2

      @@swamp2thebonegames14 Oh, damn, sorry - I'm a white English man. Oh, well, I'm proud of it!

  • @bcfc18751
    @bcfc18751 2 роки тому +166

    I’ve yet to see any comments saying this obscene sentence is correct. Alex didn’t assault anyone physically and all those who suffered ‘fear or distress’ were obviously prompted to go down that route. This country is going down the pan very quickly… the natives are not going anywhere!! The Voice of Reason will continue!! 🙏🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✝️🇬🇧

    • @johannesbols57
      @johannesbols57 2 роки тому +6

      Yes or course because he didn't physically abuse anybody THAT YOU KNOW OF, it's OK, right?

    • @mash83
      @mash83 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe you should watch the entire video, he says something at the end just for you..

    • @mentaldavethefirst
      @mentaldavethefirst 2 роки тому +7

      Here is another comment that doesn't say it is correct. It wasn't long enough

    • @ReapermanUK
      @ReapermanUK 2 роки тому +8

      10yrs would have been correct, he got off lightly.

    • @lesblack2761
      @lesblack2761 2 роки тому

      The sentence was too light...take the blinkers off - he's a wrongun, a bully and an online terrorist - thankfully he's been found out and exposed for what he is

  • @neillaw
    @neillaw 2 роки тому +10

    Seems to me "stalking" including emails and social media devalues the true meaning and what's rather a much more extreme crime
    The fact it's been bundled together puts to shame our justice system

    • @msheldon10
      @msheldon10 Рік тому +3

      No it doesn't. It just reflects the changes in communication technologies that can allow more unsolicited contact. Online harassment and stalking is very very real.

    • @neillaw
      @neillaw Рік тому +1

      @@msheldon10 it's real, but considering it in the same level as actual stalking and a sentence reflecting actual stalking is not proportional and frankly, bonkers

    • @pandorapiam3374
      @pandorapiam3374 Рік тому +2

      @@msheldon10 I agree it is real. It also spills over into the none cyber world when people then turn up at a persons home or start making harrassing phone calls. This has happened many times to people over the years.. The cyber world and the real world are, of course, interlinked.

  • @mavericmorph5358
    @mavericmorph5358 2 роки тому +47

    What did the opposition get? They did stalk, harass and spread hateful lies about Alex.

  • @barrysleafer8347
    @barrysleafer8347 2 роки тому +159

    Absolutely disgusted with the British legal system
    I can't believe he's been found guilty
    I'm Beyond pissed off

    • @enjek5654
      @enjek5654 2 роки тому +4

      The cognitive dissonance burns, doesn’t it?

    • @JuanJohn-Raytheon
      @JuanJohn-Raytheon 2 роки тому

      10 years of sending deranged e mails to people on a daily basis. Enjoy prison Alex, I'm sure you'll be popular inside.🤭

    • @StarryVeck
      @StarryVeck 2 роки тому +1

      Awwwww

    • @NapoleonGelignite
      @NapoleonGelignite 2 роки тому +1

      He called someone’s elderly mother to make vile accusations and recorded it as a ‘souvenir’. He’s a psychopath and I hope he rots in prison and has a very miserable time.

    • @seansmith445
      @seansmith445 2 роки тому +3

      They came down on him like a ton of bricks as a warning to others not to mess with the powers that be.

  • @karenlindley.9756
    @karenlindley.9756 2 роки тому +231

    Obviously they are using his case as a “show case” to set a precedent for this new world of online stalking, virtual stalking etc…..

    • @robfardell9559
      @robfardell9559 2 роки тому +8

      ...totally agree, online stalking is out of control and yes he has been made an example of

    • @philiplindley7384
      @philiplindley7384 2 роки тому +3

      Good point, I remember when phone theft was rife and a kid got 2 years for stealing a £20 phone in the street because he was the first.
      It really shouldn't work like this but . . .

    • @tamsinthai
      @tamsinthai 2 роки тому

      Do come back and tell me you've actually read the details of the case.

    • @lesley1174
      @lesley1174 2 роки тому +2

      Its not a 'show case' he actually got far less than convictions for similar crimes, go and ask Matthew Hardy about it, he got 9 years for 3 counts of stalking.

    • @andybell8887
      @andybell8887 2 роки тому +4

      State persecution pure and simple. A warning to those who dare shine a light.

  • @sionandjess
    @sionandjess Рік тому +7

    Don’t think he would have got anywhere near as long if he had hired a lawyer to represent him. Why do people think they can do it themselves?!

    • @deborahwillard3495
      @deborahwillard3495 Рік тому

      He represented himself because ALL his donations & personal money had already been spent on lawyers fees while he was stalked by the police for the year before this case. To get his right to broadcast back & his equipment too. 2 or 3 times police turned him over. He needed hundreds of thousands for a barrister to defend this case & that was a starting price. Could have easily gone up to half a million! Could you or I have afforded that?

  • @annetunstall967
    @annetunstall967 2 роки тому +30

    I see on here that I am one of many who are asking the same question...what is going on in our legal system? People commit murder, the ultimate crime, and yet get similar sentences, why? And, what is going on with the consecutive sentences for a first offence. It seems to me and many in the population that the political classes/elite/rich are abusing those of us who wish to be heard. No matter your opinion of Mr Belfield's op-eds this sentence shows a distinct political bias in my humble opinion, and I would like it examined closely, not just at law but also in the name of 'blind?' justice.

  • @AH-sr5px
    @AH-sr5px 2 роки тому +43

    British justice must be seen to fair to work effectively. With history of multiple police (with removed ID) raids based on false accusations involving media person associations where the police did not take action against those persons. Something smells very bad and has left the British legal system damaged today.

  • @mikecorrigan763
    @mikecorrigan763 2 роки тому +22

    It was blatantly obvious, listening to the evidence of Jeremy Vine and at least 3 others, that they had been coached by the police/CPS into "pushing this case over the line" with their clunky references to fearing "for their safety", e.g. putting a photo of Belfield by the front door of their house in case he launched an attack on their property.
    There were too many coincidences in the measures they all claimed to have taken "for their safety".
    I have no doubt that the police/CPS studied the PFHA 1997 in great detail and knew that hurt feelings were insufficient to get this case "over the line", so they coached the victims/witnesses into saying certain key phrases.
    Is it legal for the police/CPS to coach witnesses in this manner?

    • @blenderocean
      @blenderocean Рік тому

      What you forget is, they seized evidence to prove that he did what he did. How would they prove that he did or didn't?

  • @jay26cee
    @jay26cee Рік тому +6

    The justice system in this country is screwed. I know, I have first-hand experience of it.