Can you explain how a friend of mine was assaulted by her husband and ended up with a broken jaw and eye socket but he only received zero time in jail,this makes no sense.
Belfield was given people information on UA-cam that the authorities didn’t want us knowing, many other right leaning UA-camrs have been shut down over the last few years, the stalking was a way to “get him”
Did not the BBC cause Alex alarm and distress, when it lied when accusing Alex of making a bomb threat, and then the alleged BBC Solicitor resigned claiming she was having mental health issues. I hope Alex fights this with everything he's got.
He could have fought it with all the money people gave him to fight this. He then chose to represent himself. He's either mental or guity of stealing all that money!
Rubbish. You really need to read the trial transcript as he damaged his own case with many missteps including thinking he could defend himself and refusing to give evidence or offer a defence
the bit I don't understand is how do you make Alex responsible for how someone feels. Like I get the whole holding him to account for his behaviour but how do you measure some ones feelings.
The Law /justice system is crazy. How can that equal 5 1/2 years while serious crime like paedophiles, rapist.,and violent crime.get much less. Unbelievable.
Murder is a life sentence. That’s longer than five and a half years. Often people are released on licence long before their full sentence. Typically murderers will serve sixteen and a half years in prison. That’s at least three times longer than Belfield will serve. Clearly maths is not your strong point.
This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing but was proven to be a long term hate campaign of stalking against multiple people which caused them great pain over an extended period, including in at least one case, an attempted suicide. This amounted to cruelty of the most pernicious kind and any lesser sentence would not have registered with Mr Belfield, the arrogant nasty criminal that he is, as any punishment at all. That you view other sentences as being too lenient has nothing whatsoever to do with this sentence, which is entirely appropriate in the circumstances. Should he have the temerity to appeal the sentence, which I’m sure he will do, I hope his sentence is increased by a few months so that he can further contemplate the consequences of his action.
So how did the other stalker in this week's news get completely let off after stalking a woman over 5 years and drove past her house 15 times a day posting on tik tok to the point where she had to wear a body cam and he walked away completely free??????
Road traffic victims never get justice. My brother was killed by an uninsured driver who drove through 4 stop signs into a junction. The guy got 9 months suspended sentence, 200 hrs community service and a 3 year ban. You can literally kill someone and get far less time than Alex. His sentence seems extortionate.
did the criminal have a barrister or some legal representation ? This is why his sentence was light? Do you think the judge sat there with belfield and said oooh look a strong man with principles? No he sat there and thought you arrogant little shit you are going down
It’s crazy when child sex abuses don’t get given that kind of sentence they uselessly walk free ..it seems to be one rule for them and another for us double standards
The harshness of the punishment in comparison to other horrendous crimes seems the scales of justice are not balancing When you read a participant in the Grooming Gangs got 4 years for repeatedly raping a 13 YEAR OLD GIRL it’s concerning that a harmful words warrant a longer prison sentence Like Alex or not this is suspiciously a corrupt case against him
Like many commenters here, I am not a fan of Alex Belfied. However, I believe certain powers that be decided that he had too much to say about certain aspects of this woke way of life we are now being dragged towards in this country these days. "The Establishment" have taken down somebody who they perceive to be a threat to their power because of the large following he has built up, much like a certain Mr Robinson who we're not supposed to mention anymore.
I was run over deliberately by a 15 year old who stole my friends car. He then got out of the car and attacked me with a hammer and screwdriver. He then rode off on a stolen bike and when challenged by a female constable he wrestled with her and broke her arm with her own baton. I was stabbed and beaten. A leg broken in 5 places. A stolen car and bike. A seriously injured police officer. While on bail he attacked a security guard at Drayton Manor Park. He received two sentences of 6 months. To run concurrently. He was out in 3. How can 5 1/2 years be justice?
The criminal justice system is an absolute shambles at the moment, from under resourcing, totally inappropriate sentencing, and the (justified) Legal Aid strikes. I’m rapidly losing faith in its ability to protect the public.
@@BlackBeltBarrister at the end if the day your integrity stops at expose the criminality of you and your profession. Here is evidence of that. I still over to debate you and prove beyond all doubt you conscious knowledge of your criminal conduct.
Am no fan of AB but I’m inclined to agree. Didn’t the police turn up with their numbers removed and break down his door without giving him chance to open it. They also took electronic equipment and were totally inept and did a lot of bullying themselves if the stories he told were factual. What I really don’t get with this kind of thing is you can block emails, you don’t have to view his content so unless he was physically going after these people face to face the sentence seems very harsh. Strikes me they are making an example of him !
@@ianashton1593 no they didnt break down the door, hes a liar, why are you still believing whats hes told you when he inside now for being a complete fantasist stalker?
I am shocked and horrified . I do not like the man but this is appalling. I do not believe that any of these people were scared of him at all , only annoyed .
That’s what happens when you upset the BBC as the police in Nottingham work for the BBC…. That’s why his house was raided 3 times for absolutely no reason whatsoever
Yes very sad, other than this pending court case , he was at his happiest, he often would say so, very sad, he worked so hard to get where he was, for some corrupt people in power to take it all away, where’s the justice?!
Political? You are having a laugh! Surely? He harassed a great number of people over a number of years while encouraging his rather unintelligent audiences to do likewise. One of his victims attempted suicide and others were greatly distressed over an extended period of time. He is a nasty piece of work and has finally had his come-uppance. He will only serve 2.5 years, which seems entirely appropriate given the facts of the case.
Its been clear the establishment can make problems disappear. I used to have to deal with animal rights activists when visiting some places, then they just were not there. I looked into it and found the establishment quietly had bankrupted many of them, others were serving long sentences... poof! problem gone.
This sentence is more about the establishment sending a message to those who fight for freedom of speech along with the right to question or challenge, rather than based on the actual crimes he was found guilty of committing. I am no fan of Belfield, but he caused a lot of people in positions of power a lot of sleepless nights, because of the speed he grew his following of subscribers on UA-cam and questioned the system and the people who promoted it, be it police/media or politicians.
This is appalling. I am not a fan of Belfield and find him annoying to watch, but I did follow the case and I thought the case against him was trumped up motivated by the perception that you cannot criticise a government establishment. [as in that it was him versus the BBC] It is beyond me how they could find him guilty and 5 years is bloody ridiculous.
I am personally in shock at the sentence given, and see no justification for it. Politicians can break curfew rules with impunity, Bellfield has been made example of.
When he gets out he will have an even bigger following and will be having the last laugh and there is nothing these vindictive fools who turn a blind eye to serious crimes can do about it.
Belfield is a nasty and vindictive individual who always portrays himself as the victim. It's not only his own actions that need to be taken into account but his constant inciting of his disciples to also harass his targets that is the real danger - who knows what nut jobs follow his every word. Good Riddance to the nasty little tu-rd
How did you come to the conclusion that there is no justification for it, out of interest? Were you there in court and as fully apprised of both the prosecution and defence cases as the judge? Or do you just like Belfield and think he should be allowed to get away with stalking?
I am a layman and I am 78, and this is one of very few cases of any description I recall where sentences have been made consecutive. If you kill four times you get four "life" sentences which are often partially concurrent. We don't seem to go for the American 99 years approach. I feel this could well be worth an appeal, considering you can get "life" and be out in seven. It seems disproportionate to me.
@@monkeypox9757 If you kill 4 people on different occasions you should really be tried separately on each one. They all carry life sentences and I'm sure the minimum tariff will consider the multiple murders as an aggravating factor
Ridiculous sentence. The ones that should be sentenced were the unmarked police who came around his house and broke his door down among other things. The law has lost the plot.
*_I don't like Alex Belfield, but I absolutely defend his position, the sentence was ridiculous. He was given it as a warning to others not_* *_to expose wrongdoers ..._*
@Rowena Galloway His lowest sentence was 13 weeks. Based on your understanding of the convictions and sentencing guidelines, what should he have been given?
5 1/2 years for a bunch of emails that hurt the recipients feelings? What about the lies from the 'victims' about the number of emails, what about the police harassment which always ended in release without charge? What sentence do they get for lying and the distress they caused? Alex needs to appeal this, this is a disgusting and disproportionate sentence for the 'offence' committed. This has completely made me loose faith in our justice system.
What about the hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of donations he took from people to sue the BBC and Police? Where did that money go? He didn't sue anyone, He didn't spend it on lawyers. Looks like a lot of it went on holidays abroad and home improvements. The guy is a conman.
@@octowuss1888 Originally I had thought it went to consulations and inquiries since hourly fees were so high at £250-500 per hour with & considerable retainer in the hundreds of thousands. Being it was Law Enforcement & the BBCs legal arm eventually represented himself because couldn't afford it.
@@robbeales5516 He tried to harm an unborn child and kill a man live on air in a campagne of harassment lasting 10 years. How long would you have given him?
@@johnllewlyndavies222 yeah, if you are being tried for murdering 8 people and only guilty of murdering 4. You still murdered 4 of them. Does it not work this way too for him?
Neither did I. Here's my purely 'subjective opinion ' - I'd be very interested to know how many impartial judges are as solid a part of the British establishment as are the BBC. It seems to me that sentencing is much akin here to the tendency to receive a far more lenient one for burgling a private home than for doing so to a bank, art gallery or post office, regardless of the booty gleaned.
My ex neighbour got convicted of threats to kill,he kept coming outside my home screaming his intent to kill me,when police turned up he continued telling then he was going to buy a sawn off shotgun for £500,who he was going to buy it from and as soon as police left he was going to kill me,this was shown to court on police bodycam, he has multiple convictions the last 2 months previously where victim was a child,I had to move home for safety and he got six months prison suspended for 6 months, the law is a joke
@nieooj gotoy In order to explain that, we would need full access to both the prosecution and defence cases, and the judge's sentencing remarks. Can you provide that? Without that information, it's obviously impossible to know what happened and why.
This is an extreme and politically motivated sentencing . You can't honestly tell me he deserves that , when people like Katie Price etc get away with drunk driving especially on a ban etc
The kicker is that the Judge made the sentences CONSECUTIVELY rather then the norm of concurrence. It says a lot that Belfield was known to the courts for previous judgements and failed to acknowledge the fact. That is down to him and no-one else. He has rolled then dice and come up snake eyes and lost big time. End of.
Stalking is a crime ,end of....There's ways of exposing corruption, without breaking the law....Bellfield thinks he's some sort of hero to those, who arrogantly think they are awake and no one else is.....You don't need to be part of a mass to be awake....
I was taken to court for a tiny keyring with a push up triangle blade, about 2cm across, less up. Great for opening food packets for me & breaking into birdseed pkts. Novelty item looked like a tiny stanley knife. Nearly 40 years old. Got it moved to Crown Court as I had a right to clear my name in a first offense. Had legal aid. Wanted charges brought against arresting police for verbally & physically assaulting me! Prosecutor had private conference with my barrister, who came to tell me - all charges had been dropped. I was not amused. I wanted my day in court, I wanted to be heard & I wanted justice! Never money. Justice against those who were meant to uphold our laws, not break them themselves against civillians. Whole system is corrupt. Barking police in London. Same ones who tried hard to not investigate that homosexual serial killer. Last victim, number 4, sisters forced them to check cctv outside train station, to see who he met there off of Craigs list, the night he died. Police wrote others off as dead junkies. I used to chat to dog walker who found him dead in that graveyard. She found one before him too.
How would you feel if he harassed your pregnant wife or alarmed your elderly mother? Well, that's just a couple of the things just one victim had to endure
I can assume if you have not experienced extreme emotional abuse. It is more than bullying. You may have a connection with AB i dont know. I suggest you research emotional bullying and the effects on the victims.
Why are so many people obsessed with peadofiles? Can’t anything be separated from child abuse? Stalking of one adult by another does not happen in a vacuum that should solely be judge by how child abusers act. Weird.
@@ElementsMMA this is by no means a plan conclusion however this is a pattern of behaviour the absolute scum of Society will bring up paedophiles in a what about ISM kind of way because a paedophile is the only thing worse than they actually are. they usually being career criminals in and out of the pokey and like a f****** yo-yo. in my life experience this is my kind of people who constantly banging on about paedophiles because they have to find that one person in society who is worse than they are the majority of this comment section is clearly made up of career criminals to which I would suggest that they grow the f****** and get a life paedophiles are awful yes but so is a guy who's been done for 5 counts of burglary and he's thinking about his 6 or I don't know your average wife battery enthusiast they hate paedophiles nearly as much as they hate themselves it's all about psychology paedophiles are scum easy target harder to look in the mirror.
Because you're stupid if you can't figure out why they're using that crime. For most people noncimg is the worst crime someone can commit ergo if paedos walk free and bellfield got 51/5 years something is very wrong
@@williamrae9954 people keep saying BBC, but there were victims who had nothing to do with the BBC that he stalked, the guy is mentally ill and did not like competition in his line of work so went on decade long campaigns against them.
I don't care how the judge got there. I care about how he got more time than an actual killer can get! A little bit of your soul must die every time you have to justify the system in which you work 😞
Remember the victims up north getting terrorised by the certain people and the police turning a blind eye? I am no fan of Belfield and first offence on a crime that was nearly always impossible to get a conviction a few years back, and not giving out the sentencing concurrently which at least would have been something. 5 1/2 years is a joke. If he would have got a year then I would have thought oh well you asked for it but what he got and consecutively is a proper pizz take for a first offence which harmed no-one but a snowflake who probably milked it when he said he was going to do himself in. He must have known it was alex and knew how far he would go. Fearing for your safety is a bit over the top when you knew it wasn’t going to go further than harrassment. Harrassment is what it sounded like more than stalking.
Never heard of a stalker getting jail time before - police usually throw up their hands and claim there's nothing they can do until you get murdered - what's different about this case - surely they're not making an example of him?
No, it's a very deliberate judgement. It's a warning to all of us online, whether we are cartoonists, satirists, comedians or youtubers, or just making comments, who dare to expose and lampoon "the great and the good".
A vile couple tortured their young child by making it stay in a freezing ice bath, the child almost died, it was recently in the news.. They were sentenced to three years each! Belfields sentence was really harsh.
Anyone with common sense and morals does not support Belfield. Regardless of the apparent severity of his sentence the man is a toxic & obnoxious shit-stirrer. Perhaps his sentence will act as a deterrent to all the other self appointed 'voices of reason' on social media. Belfield is just one of many voices of the Right Wing whose words have prompted their followers to act violently. Hopkins behind bars next, where she belongs.
Theres something going on that we dont know about . I wasnt in court , but 5 1/2 years is obviously a bit odd. I was threaten by a neighbour , he said hes going to rip my head off (it wasnt the first time) I called the police and they told me they werent interested.
And deter people who harass people for years with 1000s of emails, contacting their pregnant wives and elderly mothers to further alarm them as well. That's the main deterrent here as I see it.
@@robbierabz8862 Correct the number of deluded who are rattling on about free speech and political sentence have no clue. If it was as they claim it would have been a full house of guiltys and a 20+ year sentence. With the tariffs available to the judge he got away quite leniently.
he should have never represented himself and not taking the stand was a stupid tactic . hes had a few nice holidays with all the money he conned out of his so called family
Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months. The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.
he might have been let out had he darkened his skin and said he was part of a criminal group that starts with B and ends in M and somewhere has an L in there
I am totally shocked by this outrageous sentence. I'd followed all this as closely as I could but even during the court case I was unsure of who did what, to when, and to whom. Either I'm missing some hugely critical point that only the court heard, or I've mis-read the entire situation. Was there a threat to kill, or maim? Not that I recall. Doorstep altercations requiring police intervention you would normally expect in a stalking case? The only doorstep altercation I saw was the Tactical Police chainsawing his front door in half. I'm baffled. Having heard the Guilty verdict, which surprised me, I had expected maybe a six-month sentence, suspended as so many are, and an appeal and further court action by Mr Belfield. What on earth is going on here?
Which bit is outrageous, the fact that people seem to get less for more serious crimes. I agree with you on that point. Or the fact Alex got 5 and a half years? Personally I think that's a fair sentence, plenty of people think he should have got more and that he got off lightly.
Whether you like Alex or not, remember that this sentence could affect you too. You can now get a long custodial sentence for upsetting someone's feelings or "causing distress". Dangerous times indeed.
I don't understand all the people who so clearly revel in this outcome do exactly what Alex was prosecuted for. I don't know why they think this monster won't come for them.
This verdict does not mean that you or I will get 5 years for a few nasty comments - Bellfield ran a10 year campaign of harassment for multiple victims. There are plenty of people on here posting critical videos or making nasty comments. The difference is that Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of their kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.
@@zantas-handle Don't bother with facts. They want to believe he's a martyr and all he did was say some ''hurty words''. They don't want to believe he took them for thousands in ''donations'' either, or that he threatened to ''out'' a gay man despite his own sexual ambiguity. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
@@zantas-handle Yes, those were the parts of his long-running, vengeful campaign which cannot be so easily justified. Bringing in kids' photos with vile addenda isindicative of what a vile clown he is. Worse, he was never even slightly amusing.
its funny how he does not like grooming gangs or the establishment , and he gets 5 years , sorry but no one will ever convince me , that this is not a fit up , nobbled jury perhaps , bbc , govt , police , it stinks , if he is a stalker for basically emailing and sticking up for himself on various issues , and despising the bbc , i really hope they never come for me , he is a total lamb compared to what i would do if severely provoked , the transcripts he read out of the trial were clearly factual or he would have been in big trouble , the victims were mostly homosexual men with clearly mental health issues , evidence was mainly non existant , 29 of 6000 emails ?? , and lets not forget , oh i cant remember , this stinks of tommy robinson all over again !
He didn’t take on the system, he was a defendant. The system came for him. He led everyone to believe he was the plaintiff. The man worked at the BBC, by definition he’s a narcissistic bell end.
@@sheffielddavemt125adventur3 So you are saying him highlighting police corruption and incompetence, the BBC's corruption, incompetence and fixation with paedophilia was wrong?
@@63mckenzie I hate the BBC just as much as the next man. Thousands of emails over ten years isn’t simple stalking, I said years ago there was more going on with him. He’s been made an example of to be sure but Snow White he isn’t.
He didn't defend himself. Didn't take the stand. Why didn't he get cross-examined? Something to hide? The jury will have lots of evidence of the allegations and none to refute it. This removes "reasonable doubt" and thus a gulily verdict was given. There were others, not mentioned in court, that were harassed and had a torrid time from Belfield for years. The justice system is working and we have one less sanctomonious and supercilious stalker on the streets.
I’m no fan of his and find his content mostly offensive/tedious, but this is an extremely harsh and excessive sentence for what was essentially online haranguing. There are much worse crimes that are given less severe sentences. I can’t help but feel there is a political motivation here.
Not saying AB is innocent but there are people who have tried to get real life stalkers stopped. The police ignore them and they end up murdered by their stalker. If you are famous though it's a different story.
My friend got stabbed in the chest in a unprovoked attack missed his heart by 10mm his attacker got three months sentence and he had a previous conviction for ABH
He spent 10 years stalking people, and their kids....How would you feel if it was you and your kids and family....No doubt A bellfields worshippers, who blindly follow him, allowing him to graft 300k out of them think it's exposing corruption..Lol Think about it, you don't need a hero to see the corruption going on....Try standing alone , and thinking......Thinkers don't follow a mass , I certainly refuse to follow anyone....Don't need a leader or hero
This is harsh , I think. Physical stalkers often receive non custodial sentences . For me I’d have thought a suspended prison sentence would have been better. As it was agreed in court that there was no physical act therefore the threat of violence was not likely.
@@andyforshaw8489 He also showed no contrition, no regret, no measure of culpability and continued to declare his innocence by dint of his arrogance if not his rather more careful rhetoric since the verdict. He fully expected a suspended sentence, which would have been no punishment at all for the arrogant Mr Belfield.
Most physical stalkers know their victim. This means the victim generally knows that they mean no harm. It's surely worse when you don't know what they are capable of?
Unfortunately for Alex he had a big red cross on his back, the same as Tommy for telling the truth. When you are drilling down and getting closer to what is really going on, this is what happens.
Belfield is also alleged to have obtained a victim's mother's contact details, made a phone call to the victim's mother, covertly recorded the conversation and tried to blackmail the victim to do what he wanted, with the threat of posting the audio recording online if he refused to do so.
He’s a vicious,manipulative blackmailing stalker….he ripped his fan base off for cash and lied to their faces..this nasty piece of 💩got everything that he deserved,don’t waste a moment’s sympathy on this waste of space.
Why consecutive rather than concurrent? A burglar breaks into 4 houses - 4 SEPARATE CRIMES but usually sentenced either as a job lot or for 1 with 3 other offences taken into account. Personally I think he needs to appeal to either get the sentences to run concurrently or preferably suspended. And perhaps even to pull the mental health card from the deck in mitigation as many others do? And had the cases arrived at court SEPARATELY would they have presented as being of merit to prosecute? And WHY 8 cases - 4 guilty - 4 not guilty - all brought at the same time after such a long time? And of course the 'star witness' weeping in the witness box! Was he the leading light to bring the cases as the best known individual. Who arguably stalks motorists on a daily basis with the assistance of gopro! If KP can escape jail after breeching a restraining order - then what the blazes is going on?
@@tech10k14 He's not a political dissenter. He's a narcissistic bully who can turn a phrase. I've watched plenty of his youtube stuff and, whilst he occasionally has a point, his focus is always himself and how society doesn't work in the way that he wants.
@@MaitreMark No he shouldn't. A little research into the case and you quickly see an establishing series of behaviours. He is a disturbed, possibly dangerous bully who like to whip others up to do much of his harassment for him. He's gotten exactly what he deserves.
More than 'hurt feelings' in this case if you read the court transcripts. Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of his victim's kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.
Don't mess with the establishment is the message here. By that I mean judges, the BBC, the police. If you do choose to question them make sure you're not a white, heterosexual British male or they will punish you and punish you hard!
The whole system is broken imo. My ex stalked all he’s exes including myself plus actual violence towards my son and self. Breaking in and other things. But the police did absolutely nothing. I cannot understand our system at all. It’s ridiculous. Ty for explaining. I don’t feel he deserved that much time.
I seen the same, including putting app's on a childs tablet and using it to hound someone, I assure you if you had enough money, you would have got a different outcome, the rich always get a better legal system, lack of fund dictates the final outcome.
@@Taz6688 💯 The same applies when my son with asd was bullied by a teacher and locked in a room. The damage she caused to him and still allowed to teach. If I had money she couldn’t of got away with it. It’s disgusting
100%, corruption is rife in the legal sector, solicitors barristers and judges all drink from the same trough. Most attend the same masonic lodges and are as bent as they come.
I am totally devastated by this sentence. This is political. He was exposing the non-jail sentences of police officers and establishment figures on a daily basis, some of whom had committed serious sexual offences. They had to shut him up.
What a load of utter horseshite. How in the hell is contacting the clients of a wedding photographer and using the photo of his 2 year old child with the word liar written over it exposing police and establishment figures? The man is a disgusting hideous bully,. A truly foul individual and defending him only raises serious questions about your own character
The man is an absolute maggot...The best news I've had in ages and I'm so glad he's been locked up. When a man is so bitter and hateful, the best place for him is behind bars to protect the rest of us from his bilious and odious stalky behaviour!
The irony is Alex had full Faith in the crown Court, maybe if he didn't block anyone who was slightly anti monarchy, he would have learned something... Shame, voice of reason and free speech my arse.
Yes, Leslie Reed, he was actually doing some PROPER, REAL journalism, not like the @BBC, Jeremy Vine, or the Nottingham Post do. Showing them all up for what they are.
There must surely be appeal. The evidence for the four counts he was convicted of is flimsy. The subtextual conviction is for daring to square up to the BBC - I realise BBB’s tongue will be tied to an extent here and his commentary must be judicious but - and I find a fair few of AB’s politics unpalatable - the fact he was calling out celebs in public online shouldn’t have merited this punishment. Appeal, appeal, a-fucking-ppeal!!!!
He wasn't punished for calling out celebs in public online, he was punished for 10 years of stalking by E-mail. Private E-mails (not public) and hundreds of them, not flimsy whatsoever. I did think it was harsh at first but 10 YEARS is a long time to stalk someone and now I actually find it correct. I'd understand If it wasn't a long time and only 1 person but 10 years and 4 people now it makes sense.
Belfield took thousands in legal expenses from his subscribers & spent the money on holidays & other luxury goods. He then decided to represent himself in court. His hubris was his ultimate undoing.
Read this and you maybe a little better informed, though judging by your comment, I'm not holding up much hope. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
@@ian260672 It was a stretch to call it stalking. I'm surprised they had the gall and astonished they made it stick. Some of these people were mad as a box of frogs to begin with and needed a psychiatrist long before they encountered Alex. They also needed to grow up, man up and remember - sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can NEVER hurt you. They also play acted. Very, very badly. Like Swine with his 'Savile of trolling'. The judge should have told him off for that, instead he now thinks he's a great wit. Instead of a great shit.
*Why? He plead guilty and is a nasty little man who's made people's lives a misery for years. Can you imagine what it would be like if I messaged you every day between now and February 2033? A decade of insults, threats and constant digs, no matter how many times you tried to block me. Imagine me using a picture of your child that I stole and threatening you both. Every single day for the next ten years despite all your efforts to block me. What sort of person would even do that?*
There’s something dodgy going on behind the scenes in all this, as others have said the length of the sentence is too extreme for the crime. I hope Alex appeals and gets the sentence reduced.
Belfields biggest mistake was representing himself , the evidence against him seemed very weak im sure professional representation would have won the case
whether you represent yourself or not , should hold no water in any defence ,, your words if truthful and evidence should be what affects the case ,, this would mean anyone who couldnt afford top representation and you get a poor free one would mean you stand no chance anyway ,, the court system in this country is about big words , lies and manipulation by any barrister who will do anything to win , if their client is guilty , they will lie through their teeth to get them off and its the same for the prosecution The whole system is a game between people being paid huge fees to not find the truth , its to manipulate a jury with zero experience in criminal cases , and whoever does that the best despite evidence wins We should be allowed to represent ourselves , we should be allowed to tell our truths ,, not have to rely on someone we have to pay huge amounts for just to word it properly or manipulate the amount of millionaire prosecutors who will have sent innocent people to prison because they were up against a cheap defence put in by the state is appalling and the whole thing needs sorting
I used to watch him through the lockdown, he was funny, Britian had it bad with the lockdowns, and he called poiliticans out, something the opposition wasn't doing, it was his opinion, I guess the rules are different there, but 5 and a half years is ludicrous
What opposition. Labour and tory are on the same side a 2 headed coin. We haven't heard a single word out of jeromy corbyn or his supporters or followers in the last 3 years! He has sunk back into the background of which he has done nothing, but collect a fat salary for the previous 30 year. Talk about a job for life. He's alright Jack and the only one who is! The same can be said for the rest of these wool sack mps . 900 at last count in including the unelected lords all on a £100000 a year or better.
People aren't asking the main questions. The ones that actually affect the people. Why was he representing himself in court, if he'd raised 100's of thousands of pounds from the public, for "legal fees"? Other than constant trips to Las Vegas (a known mecca for gambling) and hookers and strippers (also very expensive in Las Vegas) and first class flights around the world, and a house looking more and more lavish by the day, and obviously, his trustee jacuzzi, where did all the money for "legal fees" go? And once again, why was he forced to represent himself in court?
That was a “heed the warning “ sentence. They must have been rubbing their hands in glee when he decided to rep himself. I know he comes across as headstrong but Somebody should have stepped in right at the get go and told him that representing himself was stupid, not crazy, stupid. He has to appeal this sentence, it’s truly draconian.
It's a heed the warning sentence as you say. He will be out shortly when the sentence is "reviewed" during appeal. The media has spread the word and the "chilling effect" is in place. His release will gain little attention from the media.
According to this youtube channel he is not allowed to appeal , but either way the jail sentence is in reality 2years and 9 months the other 2years and 9 months is out of prison on licence, he was stupid to represent himself but that was his choice .
I think what Alex was guilty of, was making a _conflation_ between (1) Freedom of *speech* and (2) Freedom to _persistently_ and _relentlessly_ *harass* someone ( that is to say: _bully_ them, using social media/email etc., to a point that they wished to _end their life_ ). And for that, he paid the price.
David how many MSM editors have gone to jail for the same offence and you don’t have to watch social media of someone criticising you to the point you want to take your own life, you can block individuals and have nothing to do with the content.
@@johnmcdonald9295 I shall not argue whether or not it SHOULD have been considered murder, as that is a different discussion. However, the fact is that Igboner was not convicted of murder. Please do not spin, we have mainstream media doing enough of that in this country..
Stalking is never to be tolerated but Alex’s downfall was relentlessly mocking a police force. The Brotherhood have come together to show poor Alex who’s boss.
@@whathappenedtomyYThandle absolutely, the police used excessive force, if we had a fair legal system it would be the plods standing trial but I'm afraid this country or should I say caliphate is well and truly screwed
I remember, years ago now, that The Monocled Mutinier (starring Paul McGann) was never screened again after two shewings. The story of a Nottinghamshire miner's son who impersonated First War officers, joined the Etaples mutiny and was hounded by the Establishment after the war and killed by the Police (a true story). It still rankles the Powers in the High Castle.
Good video. But if all of us declined to give opinions on sentences because they are 'subjective' the questions arises - what makes a Judge's opinion when sentencing 'objective'? There must always be questions asked and opinions given when, as many have pointed out below, the sentence appears to be overly harsh or inconsistent. The judiciary are hardly devoid of their own subjectivities.
What ever he has done like him or not in my opinion the sentence seems very harsh considering other sentences handed out to others for similar or even worse offences
This is a threat to everyone, if you tell the truth or express you opinions this is what happens to you, it’s a f*cking disgrace, this country is a cesspit of corruption.
Good point, I remember when phone theft was rife and a kid got 2 years for stealing a £20 phone in the street because he was the first. It really shouldn't work like this but . . .
Its not a 'show case' he actually got far less than convictions for similar crimes, go and ask Matthew Hardy about it, he got 9 years for 3 counts of stalking.
Two squaddies that unprovoked nearly battered to death an innocent member of the public got two and four concurrent , I don't understand or stand under such a corrupt banking/court system. It's all bollocks
@@ElementsMMA there's also that duo of out and out thugs that nearly killed an innocent member of the public totally unprovoked got,four years two years and two years to run concurrently and two years youth custody for the other. These two maimed for life the victim. He has to rely on benefits, had to wait over six years for any compensation that totalled around£7500 no justice for the permanent injuries caused by two members of uk armed service
One of the darkest days in living memory! Even the ones celebrating need to be afraid, very afraid! The justice system should hang its head in shame! Nobody is safe now!
When someone who kills someone or several people even with dangerous driving gets a shorter sentence than Alex bellfield then you know this is highly suspicious.. I’ve seen violent criminals inflict horrendous injury against their victims and escape prison .. one punch deaths suspects get two years .. the fact this barrister spends so much time giving reasons why the judge came to his sentencing decision shows his real viewpoint despite him denying he has an opinion on this .. we all know judges have guidelines you don’t need to be a barrister to know that .. yet time and time again judges ignore the guidelines and allow violent criminals to walk free or get a very short sentence so don’t spout your nonsense about judges following guidelines because they ignore then time and time again .. I see at the end of this video this barrister is even trying to tell us that by us disagreeing with the judge we are ignoring the facts .. .. Alex bellfield got done over .. we don’t need to go to law school to see that
@@davidburrows4801 are you really a ‘lamb to the slaughter’ ? I doubt that you are?? on UA-cam I can ‘create a perfect life’, we all know it’s fake! Do your own research. These ‘victims’ you mention, who are they? and who do they really work for??
I know someone who's ex was killed at 25 by a guy who was over the limit,speeding and ran a red light. The guy was given 3 years. The worst part is the same person had already killed another man in his own country a few years before coming to the UK.
He called someone’s elderly mother to make vile accusations and recorded it as a ‘souvenir’. He’s a psychopath and I hope he rots in prison and has a very miserable time.
Interesting that we put great faith in a jury to come up with a reliable verdict but not for a just sentence. I have yet to read a comment anywhere suggesting 5.5 years is a reasonable sentence in this case and I doubt that the jury, if asked, would have passed down such a sentence.
You need to read a few more then there are plenty stating it was reasonable and many others stating it should have been more. Then read the judges sentencing summing up its available on line Notts Post live have a link to it, he didn't get 5years and 26weeks for one offence it was for 4 convictions, the longest sentence was 2.5 years.
@@ColinMill1 100% Colin. Unfortunately this is not a unique case. The force specific targets around this type of Stalking. Walk into any police station and you’ll see posters about it plastered all over their walls. My brother posted two pictures on a private Instagram story celebrating catching her cheating (she wasn’t in any pictures it was literally us 🍻 saying we caught a cheat, no reference to her). He was later arrested for harassment. This country is honestly down the drain, so is our justice system. Shame on our courts! Shame on our government!
@@ColinMill1 majority opinion is the sentance is too long , regardless of fans or haters , the extreme trolls would have him executed , the dislikers , dislike him and say 5 .5 yrs is too harsh , others think the whole affair is a fit up , with a wider govt bbc police , free speech agenda ! all the so called victims or complainers , have mental health issues as revealed in the trial , most are homosexual men , some with bbc connections who have broken bbc guidelines on one issue or another and have been exposed with no consequencces attached , there is also a protect the gay community agenda from the likes of AB in some of the testimony in court , so go figure , take your corner and make up your own mind !
@@JB_inks why was his house raided 3 times by Nottinghamshire police 2 years ago? Oh yeah because he blew the whistle on BBC and Jeremy vine WASTING OUR TV LICENSE
@@joehayes247 they raided it to look for evidence of his stalking, and using sock accounts to troll with. You didn't actually think he was suing the BBC did you? That's when they were investigating him for stalking. Also, he raised hundreds of thousands of pounds which he claimed would be used to sue the BBC, but he didn't spend it on a barrister and he did go on holiday, so what happened to all the cash?
Basically 5 1/2 years for bullying if they applied this in schools that would get rid of a lot of kids. Didn't the police recently fail to turn up for 3 days for some kids beating the hell out of their victims.
They took ten days to turn up when I called the police and that then escalated the situation. Still no justice, none of the perpetrators were arrested.
British justice must be seen to fair to work effectively. With history of multiple police (with removed ID) raids based on false accusations involving media person associations where the police did not take action against those persons. Something smells very bad and has left the British legal system damaged today.
It was a long, and complicated explanation, but it left me still needing to know why the sentences were consecutive, rather than concurrent. The length of the sentence leaves me with a bad taste in the mouth. Like many others, I can't understand how he could end up with a longer sentence than violent, and/or persistent offenders.
The sentences were consecutive because the crimes were against different people. If you commit more than one crime against the same person at the same time (or against multiple people at the same time) then it's generally concurrent sentences. In this case however he committed crimes against different people at different times.
@@NickLea Concurrent sentences are given for multiple burglaries, against different households (different victims) over a long period , all the time. So your comment is dud. The defendant may want additional comes (so far unconnected) to be taken into account. This isn't them being helpful, this is so that those crimes can't be brought up at a later date, and they can be included concurrently. Meaning with no extra punishment.
Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months. The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.
Did you watch the BBB video? A one punch manslaughter is invariably a heat of the moment unplanned crime. The harassment was to many victims, perpetrated for a very long time. That takes the culpability factor up considerably. The sentence for one incidence of serious harassment is up to 12 years so the fact that he got 5 years for the two counts is a bit of a let off for him. He'll be out in a couple of years, hopefully having learned a valuable lesson about trying to make people's lives a misery for his own gain. You don't think youtube creators do it for kicks do you?
Seems to me "stalking" including emails and social media devalues the true meaning and what's rather a much more extreme crime The fact it's been bundled together puts to shame our justice system
No it doesn't. It just reflects the changes in communication technologies that can allow more unsolicited contact. Online harassment and stalking is very very real.
@@msheldon10 it's real, but considering it in the same level as actual stalking and a sentence reflecting actual stalking is not proportional and frankly, bonkers
@@msheldon10 I agree it is real. It also spills over into the none cyber world when people then turn up at a persons home or start making harrassing phone calls. This has happened many times to people over the years.. The cyber world and the real world are, of course, interlinked.
Can you explain how a friend of mine was assaulted by her husband and ended up with a broken jaw and eye socket but he only received zero time in jail,this makes no sense.
The world is bent.
She wasn't Jeremy Vine.
Belfield was given people information on UA-cam that the authorities didn’t want us knowing, many other right leaning UA-camrs have been shut down over the last few years, the stalking was a way to “get him”
Did she burn dinner twice?
She didn't listen?
Those found guilty of serious physical assault do not usually receive such sentences.
Belfield stalked his victims over a course of more than ten years. Never heard of a physical assault lasting that long tbh
@@ElementsMMA it happens in domestic violence cases all the time.
@@Carwyn.Morris that’s a very slow punch
@@ElementsMMA Lol Y'know what I mean.
@@Carwyn.Morris 🤣
Did not the BBC cause Alex alarm and distress, when it lied when accusing Alex of making a bomb threat, and then the alleged BBC Solicitor resigned claiming she was having mental health issues. I hope Alex fights this with everything he's got.
You mean the 300k donated to "Sue the BBC" that then was used to defend against 8x stalking charges?
He could have fought it with all the money people gave him to fight this. He then chose to represent himself. He's either mental or guity of stealing all that money!
👍🏽
The problem is he ain't got nothing
@MEH I agree, if you go to the High Court it’s best not to represent yourself. Better to have a QC ( or KC now) .
Not a fan of Belfield, he's a curious character, but no question he's been dealt with harshly.
The game is rigged.
Yes..CORRUPT
Agreed
CRY BABY VINE AND OTHERS. GET A LIFE.
He’s a creepy ginger grifter, it’s very strange that so many people are desperate to defend him
The legal system had already decided this, even before the case went to court. The partnership with the BBC made the result a foregone conclusion....
It's deffo a political sentence.......
Totally agree
Anything to stop someone who might expose the Pedo shadow establishment.
The Jimmy Saville effect
Rubbish. You really need to read the trial transcript as he damaged his own case with many missteps including thinking he could defend himself and refusing to give evidence or offer a defence
If causing people to live in fear is a crime the Government should be locked up for life!
the bit I don't understand is how do you make Alex responsible for how someone feels. Like I get the whole holding him to account for his behaviour but how do you measure some ones feelings.
They lived in fear because they were mental, love.
Bloody well said.
oh yes👍🙄
Agreed!
The Law /justice system is crazy. How can that equal 5 1/2 years while serious crime like paedophiles, rapist.,and violent crime.get much less. Unbelievable.
100%
Never confuse law with Justice
Murder is a life sentence. That’s longer than five and a half years. Often people are released on licence long before their full sentence. Typically murderers will serve sixteen and a half years in prison. That’s at least three times longer than Belfield will serve. Clearly maths is not your strong point.
@@captaindunsell8568 Never confuse justice with political persecution
This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing but was proven to be a long term hate campaign of stalking against multiple people which caused them great pain over an extended period, including in at least one case, an attempted suicide. This amounted to cruelty of the most pernicious kind and any lesser sentence would not have registered with Mr Belfield, the arrogant nasty criminal that he is, as any punishment at all.
That you view other sentences as being too lenient has nothing whatsoever to do with this sentence, which is entirely appropriate in the circumstances. Should he have the temerity to appeal the sentence, which I’m sure he will do, I hope his sentence is increased by a few months so that he can further contemplate the consequences of his action.
So how did the other stalker in this week's news get completely let off after stalking a woman over 5 years and drove past her house 15 times a day posting on tik tok to the point where she had to wear a body cam and he walked away completely free??????
She didn't work for the BBC or mainstream media mafia. And, he probably didn't represent himself.
Let me guess? She did not work for the BBC!
Not political .
@Ed Straker rubbish bbc opinion
@@markymark123100 not unbiased just bbc making a point as always defending should go ahead
Road traffic victims never get justice. My brother was killed by an uninsured driver who drove through 4 stop signs into a junction. The guy got 9 months suspended sentence, 200 hrs community service and a 3 year ban. You can literally kill someone and get far less time than Alex. His sentence seems extortionate.
No, the uninsured driver should have got a *MUCH* longer sentence.
did the criminal have a barrister or some legal representation ? This is why his sentence was light? Do you think the judge sat there with belfield and said oooh look a strong man with principles? No he sat there and thought you arrogant little shit you are going down
I agree Captain Badger but I think the answer is the driver should have got much longer, several years, rather than reduce other sentences.
Regardless the driver should of got much longer and bellfoeld sentence is a joke.
Captain Badger, I'm so very sorry to hear about your brother.
It’s crazy when child sex abuses don’t get given that kind of sentence they uselessly walk free ..it seems to be one rule for them and another for us double standards
So now you are going to tell us which child sex convictions usually get to walk free. This will be interesting.
Our justice system do not care about our children. Watching kiddy porn is treated as nothing now.
@@hedydd2 Andrew
@@hedydd2 open your eyes and ears.
@@hedydd2 What are you into exactly?
The harshness of the punishment in comparison to other horrendous crimes seems the scales of justice are not balancing
When you read a participant in the Grooming Gangs got 4 years for repeatedly raping a 13 YEAR OLD GIRL it’s concerning that a harmful words warrant a longer prison sentence
Like Alex or not this is suspiciously a corrupt case against him
It's disgusting really, Alex took on the Establishment and there was only going to be one winner despite his (misplaced) faith in the 'justice system'
Most definitely
Like many commenters here, I am not a fan of Alex Belfied. However, I believe certain powers that be decided that he had too much to say about certain aspects of this woke way of life we are now being dragged towards in this country these days. "The Establishment" have taken down somebody who they perceive to be a threat to their power because of the large following he has built up, much like a certain Mr Robinson who we're not supposed to mention anymore.
Totally agree
Yep the other guy should have been jailed for longer. Two wrongs do not make a right. Bell end got what he deserved.
The British law now says you’ll go to jail for hurting someone’s feeling
But a much lower sentence for an actual attack .
I long supported Alex, but what he did was unconscionable, he had no right to ruin people's lives who did nothing wrong.
@@JC57515 Yes, he became psychotic in a way.
I was run over deliberately by a 15 year old who stole my friends car.
He then got out of the car and attacked me with a hammer and screwdriver.
He then rode off on a stolen bike and when challenged by a female constable he wrestled with her and broke her arm with her own baton.
I was stabbed and beaten. A leg broken in 5 places. A stolen car and bike. A seriously injured police officer.
While on bail he attacked a security guard at Drayton Manor Park.
He received two sentences of 6 months. To run concurrently. He was out in 3.
How can 5 1/2 years be justice?
I’m sorry to hear of your terrible experience.
@@BlackBeltBarrister thank you so much for the reply.
It was a long time ago now.
So sorry you experienced this 🥺
The criminal justice system is an absolute shambles at the moment, from under resourcing, totally inappropriate sentencing, and the (justified) Legal Aid strikes. I’m rapidly losing faith in its ability to protect the public.
@@BlackBeltBarrister at the end if the day your integrity stops at expose the criminality of you and your profession. Here is evidence of that. I still over to debate you and prove beyond all doubt you conscious knowledge of your criminal conduct.
Outrageous sentence! The UK justice system is broken and free speech has died a death. People should be worried, very worried.
Most are blinded by the dislike of him to see the real issue
Establishment wanted to bring him down and Belfield fell into it.
Yes, it's scary. The judge went with the guidelines but prosecution knew that when they set the charges. Appears to be rigged.
No reason to worry, its always been like this!
@@WorksopGimp Bellend is an odious excuse for a human but I will admit it does seem harsh
I think that's far over the top, the police had it in for him.
It should have been 2 years suspended at best.
@@krissymarklewis1793 i dunno, he'll do a year or so and get out, seems fair enough to me
Am no fan of AB but I’m inclined to agree. Didn’t the police turn up with their numbers removed and break down his door without giving him chance to open it. They also took electronic equipment and were totally inept and did a lot of bullying themselves if the stories he told were factual. What I really don’t get with this kind of thing is you can block emails, you don’t have to view his content so unless he was physically going after these people face to face the sentence seems very harsh. Strikes me they are making an example of him !
@@ostrichman I agree, seems harsh though when paedos get less.
@@ianashton1593 no they didnt break down the door, hes a liar, why are you still believing whats hes told you when he inside now for being a complete fantasist stalker?
I am shocked and horrified . I do not like the man but this is appalling. I do not believe that any of these people were scared of him at all , only annoyed .
I noted that he had complete faith in the legal system and that the courts would be fair. HE CERTAINLY GOT THAT WRONG.
That’s what happens when you upset the BBC as the police in Nottingham work for the BBC…. That’s why his house was raided 3 times for absolutely no reason whatsoever
Well he should have spent the money he scammed out of smooth brain people on a good defence team
He should have testified in his own defence. Any jury would think someone who does not testify is likely guilty
@@cuprashoe I thought his defence lawyer did a good job.
Yes very sad, other than this pending court case , he was at his happiest, he often would say so, very sad, he worked so hard to get where he was, for some corrupt people in power to take it all away, where’s the justice?!
Very clearly a political sentence.
How far we have fallen.
Which is how I view it- disgusting.
A victory for the merry ship HMS BBC
Political? You are having a laugh! Surely? He harassed a great number of people over a number of years while encouraging his rather unintelligent audiences to do likewise. One of his victims attempted suicide and others were greatly distressed over an extended period of time. He is a nasty piece of work and has finally had his come-uppance. He will only serve 2.5 years, which seems entirely appropriate given the facts of the case.
He will come back louder and stronger 👍
Its been clear the establishment can make problems disappear. I used to have to deal with animal rights activists when visiting some places, then they just were not there. I looked into it and found the establishment quietly had bankrupted many of them, others were serving long sentences... poof! problem gone.
This sentence is more about the establishment sending a message to those who fight for freedom of speech along with the right to question or challenge, rather than based on the actual crimes he was found guilty of committing. I am no fan of Belfield, but he caused a lot of people in positions of power a lot of sleepless nights, because of the speed he grew his following of subscribers on UA-cam and questioned the system and the people who promoted it, be it police/media or politicians.
brilliant comment kdn.
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Makes you wonder why Martin Bashir and the BBC have not been bought before a judge and jury … what they did was far worse !
Absolutely, the core of it, spot on
Correct!
This was a truly unbelievably political sentence as a lesson not to mess with the establishment
This is appalling. I am not a fan of Belfield and find him annoying to watch, but I did follow the case and I thought the case against him was trumped up motivated by the perception that you cannot criticise a government establishment. [as in that it was him versus the BBC]
It is beyond me how they could find him guilty and 5 years is bloody ridiculous.
Fair sentence.
He stalked people for years and shown no guilt.
It is very hard to stomach the fact that Political Sentences still sometimes occur in this country, but here's one.
@@freddyeverready while in the real world, we the sane see EXACTLY what this is !!!
@funky
You're a troll
Probably Jeremy vile.
he defended himself like a knob
I am personally in shock at the sentence given, and see no justification for it. Politicians can break curfew rules with impunity, Bellfield has been made example of.
When he gets out he will have an even bigger following and will be having the last laugh and there is nothing these vindictive fools who turn a blind eye to serious crimes can do about it.
For sure!!!
Read the facts. 10 years of being truly evil
Belfield is a nasty and vindictive individual who always portrays himself as the victim. It's not only his own actions that need to be taken into account but his constant inciting of his disciples to also harass his targets that is the real danger - who knows what nut jobs follow his every word. Good Riddance to the nasty little tu-rd
How did you come to the conclusion that there is no justification for it, out of interest? Were you there in court and as fully apprised of both the prosecution and defence cases as the judge? Or do you just like Belfield and think he should be allowed to get away with stalking?
I am a layman and I am 78, and this is one of very few cases of any description I recall where sentences have been made consecutive. If you kill four times you get four "life" sentences which are often partially concurrent. We don't seem to go for the American 99 years approach. I feel this could well be worth an appeal, considering you can get "life" and be out in seven. It seems disproportionate to me.
An excellent point. This is a Political Sentence if ever I saw one.
Only when the crimes are against the same victim or closely related in some other way, these were against completely separate victims
@@monkeypox9757 If you kill 4 people on different occasions you should really be tried separately on each one. They all carry life sentences and I'm sure the minimum tariff will consider the multiple murders as an aggravating factor
@@andipeters743 Definitely.
Exactly good sir
Ridiculous sentence. The ones that should be sentenced were the unmarked police who came around his house and broke his door down among other things. The law has lost the plot.
If you watch Stacey Dooley's stalkers, the police were about to do that to somebody, using a warrant. So it isn't unheard of.
*_I don't like Alex Belfield, but I absolutely defend his position, the sentence was ridiculous. He was given it as a warning to others not_*
*_to expose wrongdoers ..._*
Which sentence? He had four separate sentences. Which specific one did you disagree with?
Defend his position to abuse individuals on line . The sentence reflects the serious nature of his crimes (4)
@@carlisroy6666 all of them!!
@Rowena Galloway His lowest sentence was 13 weeks. Based on your understanding of the convictions and sentencing guidelines, what should he have been given?
@@carlisroy6666 nothing. But I appreciate you asking me.
Has much as I dislike Mr Belfield, he has proved that the system is corrupt!
The only corruption going on is Alex robbing his fans blind
@@claireemily1983 He never robbed them. They gave of their own free will...admittedly , it does seem like he twisted his words to suit his cause.
@@spanishpeaches2930 I disagree, he manipulated them into donating.
@@claireemily1983 manipulating is not robbing. The diifference between robbing and burgling is that robbing comes with the threat of violence
@@claireemily1983 no he did not ...
5 1/2 years for a bunch of emails that hurt the recipients feelings? What about the lies from the 'victims' about the number of emails, what about the police harassment which always ended in release without charge? What sentence do they get for lying and the distress they caused? Alex needs to appeal this, this is a disgusting and disproportionate sentence for the 'offence' committed. This has completely made me loose faith in our justice system.
What about the hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of donations he took from people to sue the BBC and Police? Where did that money go? He didn't sue anyone, He didn't spend it on lawyers. Looks like a lot of it went on holidays abroad and home improvements. The guy is a conman.
@@octowuss1888 Originally I had thought it went to consulations and inquiries since hourly fees were so high at £250-500 per hour with & considerable retainer in the hundreds of thousands. Being it was Law Enforcement & the BBCs legal arm eventually represented himself because couldn't afford it.
They’re were thousands of emails going back years.
He’s a nutcase
@@whathappenedtomyYThandle so where did the money go? Circa 500k
@@craigdean5153 I always thought he was a wrongun. Based purely on his "vibe"!!
When you consider that Katie Price didn't go to prison after all she has done,I find Alex Bellfields sentence very harsh
5 young men in Newcastle got 6.5 years each for manslaughter. Makes this sentence rather extreme.
Or the Newcastle one ridiculously lenient?
@@ChrisAndCats not mutually exclusive
did he have a barrister?
I think this disgusting sentence just proves conformation of what Alex Bellfield has been saying about this corrupt and sinister establishment.
Quite so.
Yes this country is heading down a stinking rat hole and anyone gloating may well end up being dragged down the same rathole eventually
@@robbeales5516
He tried to harm an unborn child and kill a man live on air in a campagne of harassment lasting 10 years.
How long would you have given him?
He took his chances and got what he deserved / asked for. The law's pretty clear and this article discusses it pretty thoroughly.
@@resistancefighter9009 you shouldn't really be on here talking bollocks mate .
I am genuinely shocked, I viewed him as a shock jock and journalist. His methods were coarse, but I did not expect this.
He was found guilty of stalking 4 people at once. It’s not really a surprise
@@kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 - and not guilty of four, even though he did exactly the same to all eight of them.
@@johnllewlyndavies222 er, no he didn’t actually…
@@johnllewlyndavies222 yeah, if you are being tried for murdering 8 people and only guilty of murdering 4. You still murdered 4 of them. Does it not work this way too for him?
Neither did I. Here's my purely 'subjective opinion ' - I'd be very interested to know how many impartial judges are as solid a part of the British establishment as are the BBC. It seems to me that sentencing is much akin here to the tendency to receive a far more lenient one for burgling a private home than for doing so to a bank, art gallery or post office, regardless of the booty gleaned.
My ex neighbour got convicted of threats to kill,he kept coming outside my home screaming his intent to kill me,when police turned up he continued telling then he was going to buy a sawn off shotgun for £500,who he was going to buy it from and as soon as police left he was going to kill me,this was shown to court on police bodycam, he has multiple convictions the last 2 months previously where victim was a child,I had to move home for safety and he got six months prison suspended for 6 months, the law is a joke
The UK justice system is a disgrace. Anyone who dares to expose those in power will never being treated fairly. Ask Julian.
Never been stalked i take it. Its life ruining.
@nieooj gotoy did she drop charges or refuse to. Give evidence?
@nieooj gotoy In order to explain that, we would need full access to both the prosecution and defence cases, and the judge's sentencing remarks. Can you provide that? Without that information, it's obviously impossible to know what happened and why.
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Clary?
RIP the British justice system. The government and the judges need to be reminded that their laws only count as long as the public goes along with it!
I'm a member of the public and I go along with it. He was a nasty, spiteful little man, and got what he deserved.
This is the final straw for me. Now I know the system is rigged.
@@mickeytheviewmoo ...... Better late than never .....
RS MickeyMoo Productions what are you gonna do?
@Neria Wolf Be careful who you send messages to online, you could be next.
This is an extreme and politically motivated sentencing . You can't honestly tell me he deserves that , when people like Katie Price etc get away with drunk driving especially on a ban etc
You haven’t followed the case have you ?
Absolutely agree
The kicker is that the Judge made the sentences CONSECUTIVELY rather then the norm of concurrence. It says a lot that Belfield was known to the courts for previous judgements and failed to acknowledge the fact. That is down to him and no-one else.
He has rolled then dice and come up snake eyes and lost big time. End of.
@@cpn9072 disgusting. Look at other instances.....Katie bloody price!! To name but one.
Stalking is a crime ,end of....There's ways of exposing corruption, without breaking the law....Bellfield thinks he's some sort of hero to those, who arrogantly think they are awake and no one else is.....You don't need to be part of a mass to be awake....
I was a witness to a man carrying a knife in a public place. He got a £100 fine. FIVE YEARS? No wonder i have no trust in our legal system.
I was taken to court for a tiny keyring with a push up triangle blade, about 2cm across, less up. Great for opening food packets for me & breaking into birdseed pkts. Novelty item looked like a tiny stanley knife. Nearly 40 years old. Got it moved to Crown Court as I had a right to clear my name in a first offense. Had legal aid. Wanted charges brought against arresting police for verbally & physically assaulting me! Prosecutor had private conference with my barrister, who came to tell me - all charges had been dropped. I was not amused. I wanted my day in court, I wanted to be heard & I wanted justice! Never money. Justice against those who were meant to uphold our laws, not break them themselves against civillians. Whole system is corrupt. Barking police in London. Same ones who tried hard to not investigate that homosexual serial killer. Last victim, number 4, sisters forced them to check cctv outside train station, to see who he met there off of Craigs list, the night he died. Police wrote others off as dead junkies. I used to chat to dog walker who found him dead in that graveyard. She found one before him too.
So u get more time in prison for hurting someone’s feelings than actually physically hurting someone….
True, this is the justice system in this country. It's broken and bares no reality to the crime committed.
Belfield thought the judge was a good guy! That judge did not become a lord for nothing.
How would you feel if he harassed your pregnant wife or alarmed your elderly mother? Well, that's just a couple of the things just one victim had to endure
@@lesliemccaghy9611 the judge was a moron
I can assume if you have not experienced extreme emotional abuse. It is more than bullying.
You may have a connection with AB i dont know. I suggest you research emotional bullying and the effects on the victims.
This sentence seems extremely excessive. There are people who have committed violent crimes and not been given these sort of sentences.
We'll it was Jeremy vine haha
He took on the BBC what do you expect
The sentence is in line with his behaviour. You have only listened to his side of the case.
He got exactly what he deserved 👍🏻
'Thought crimes' trump violent ones it seems( particularly when a certain demographic are involved)
Very harsh, when others who do things to kids get less.
Why are so many people obsessed with peadofiles? Can’t anything be separated from child abuse? Stalking of one adult by another does not happen in a vacuum that should solely be judge by how child abusers act.
Weird.
@@ElementsMMA same people who probably say "why didn't they report it at the time?"
@@ElementsMMA because these people are the British equivalent of Q-anoners
@@ElementsMMA this is by no means a plan conclusion however this is a pattern of behaviour the absolute scum of Society will bring up paedophiles in a what about ISM kind of way because a paedophile is the only thing worse than they actually are. they usually being career criminals in and out of the pokey and like a f****** yo-yo. in my life experience this is my kind of people who constantly banging on about paedophiles because they have to find that one person in society who is worse than they are the majority of this comment section is clearly made up of career criminals to which I would suggest that they grow the f****** and get a life paedophiles are awful yes but so is a guy who's been done for 5 counts of burglary and he's thinking about his 6 or I don't know your average wife battery enthusiast they hate paedophiles nearly as much as they hate themselves it's all about psychology paedophiles are scum easy target harder to look in the mirror.
Because you're stupid if you can't figure out why they're using that crime. For most people noncimg is the worst crime someone can commit ergo if paedos walk free and bellfield got 51/5 years something is very wrong
there needs to be an investigation into the judges and prosecution. *HOW CAN WE TRUST THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AFTER THIS*
Be thankful YOU weren’t mentally tortured for a decade! He carried on and on and on. No more though 👍👍👍
UKIP by any chance ?! Seems to be mainly people with zero compassion!
Makes no sense to me. British Justice? A suspended sentence at the most, but this is gross.
Was even enough evidence to convict, all the BBC 'victims' were coached!
@@williamrae9954 collusion comes to mind. They all knew each other and worked for the BBC
@@mickeytheviewmoo That alone should win an appeal?
@@williamrae9954 people keep saying BBC, but there were victims who had nothing to do with the BBC that he stalked, the guy is mentally ill and did not like competition in his line of work so went on decade long campaigns against them.
@@brainimp All guilty verdict were BBC employees... 29 emails only produced in evidence over a decade... a stitch up
I don't care how the judge got there. I care about how he got more time than an actual killer can get! A little bit of your soul must die every time you have to justify the system in which you work 😞
Fashion crimes
Judge too a bung from the BBC.
It's decisions like this, that make a mockery of justice in this country. What have we become?
Remember the victims up north getting terrorised by the certain people and the police turning a blind eye?
I am no fan of Belfield and first offence on a crime that was nearly always impossible to get a conviction a few years back, and not giving out the sentencing concurrently which at least would have been something. 5 1/2 years is a joke. If he would have got a year then I would have thought oh well you asked for it but what he got and consecutively is a proper pizz take for a first offence which harmed no-one but a snowflake who probably milked it when he said he was going to do himself in. He must have known it was alex and knew how far he would go. Fearing for your safety is a bit over the top when you knew it wasn’t going to go further than harrassment. Harrassment is what it sounded like more than stalking.
A Political Sentence.
Never heard of a stalker getting jail time before - police usually throw up their hands and claim there's nothing they can do until you get murdered - what's different about this case - surely they're not making an example of him?
Are you implying that stalking is not that serious? 🤔
@@RealityEscapeeItIsMe They're obviously not.
@@RealityEscapeeItIsMe no, he/she clearly isn't. Read it again and again and again to get it
I hope Alex takes this a whole lot further
The former BBC Newsnight presenter Emily Matlis has been stalked by a man she went to university with. He's been sentenced to two prison terms so far.
The U.K. legal system has become a complete joke. I was surprised that Alex put his faith in it. Hope you are happy with yourself Jeremy.
This is truly an utterly insane judgment.
No, it's a very deliberate judgement. It's a warning to all of us online, whether we are cartoonists, satirists, comedians or youtubers, or just making comments, who dare to expose and lampoon "the great and the good".
This is a political sentence.
Insane for common sense. This is a warning to all that speak against the establishment.
And stalking people and cyber bullying them is... sane?
Maybe a suspended sentence would have been enough.
A vile couple tortured their young child by making it stay in a freezing ice bath, the child almost died, it was recently in the news.. They were sentenced to three years each! Belfields sentence was really harsh.
That couple got too short a sentence by many years. Belfield got a fair sentence.
@@Muesliman467 Belfield is a victim of tyranny and injustice.
@@Steve_the_Lion No he isn't. Not to anyone who knows the case.
@@Muesliman467 a fair sentence for making videos about public figures? Absolutely insane sentence. Shouldn't have even been at court.
@@Muesliman467 So who has been harmed?
Anyone with common sense and morals can see this is not justice.
Anyone with common sense and morals does not support Belfield. Regardless of the apparent severity of his sentence the man is a toxic & obnoxious shit-stirrer. Perhaps his sentence will act as a deterrent to all the other self appointed 'voices of reason' on social media. Belfield is just one of many voices of the Right Wing whose words have prompted their followers to act violently. Hopkins behind bars next, where she belongs.
Should he have been in longer do you think?
Theres something going on that we dont know about . I wasnt in court , but 5 1/2 years is obviously a bit odd. I was threaten by a neighbour , he said hes going to rip my head off (it wasnt the first time) I called the police and they told me they werent interested.
only when he hacks yer head off
There is something very fishy about this sentence, I feel like they are trying to deter people who say the wrong thing
Exactly that!
agreed Michael.
Scapegoat comes to mind.
And deter people who harass people for years with 1000s of emails, contacting their pregnant wives and elderly mothers to further alarm them as well. That's the main deterrent here as I see it.
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Correct the number of deluded who are rattling on about free speech and political sentence have no clue. If it was as they claim it would have been a full house of guiltys and a 20+ year sentence. With the tariffs available to the judge he got away quite leniently.
I wonder what the overall figures are for similar cases ?Maybe he'd have got less if he'd have physically assaulted those people ?Madness
he should have never represented himself and not taking the stand was a stupid tactic . hes had a few nice holidays with all the money he conned out of his so called family
Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months.
The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.
he might have been let out had he darkened his skin and said he was part of a criminal group that starts with B and ends in M and somewhere has an L in there
Bearing in mind he stalked his victims over a course of ten years. Assaults don’t usually last for ten years.
@@ElementsMMA No assaults don't last ten years and sending emails is not stalking.
Utterly outrageous. People get far less for infinitely more serious crimes daily.
I am totally shocked by this outrageous sentence. I'd followed all this as closely as I could but even during the court case I was unsure of who did what, to when, and to whom. Either I'm missing some hugely critical point that only the court heard, or I've mis-read the entire situation. Was there a threat to kill, or maim? Not that I recall. Doorstep altercations requiring police intervention you would normally expect in a stalking case? The only doorstep altercation I saw was the Tactical Police chainsawing his front door in half. I'm baffled. Having heard the Guilty verdict, which surprised me, I had expected maybe a six-month sentence, suspended as so many are, and an appeal and further court action by Mr Belfield. What on earth is going on here?
what about and appeal with all that money that was granted, this time hiring a professional to represent him to get him out of this mess.
There's a lot I suspect we don't know about but five and a half years seems harsh no doubt they'll be an appeal.
He's a stalker and fraudster. The maximum tariff was 21 years. He will be out in two and bit.
Which bit is outrageous, the fact that people seem to get less for more serious crimes. I agree with you on that point. Or the fact Alex got 5 and a half years? Personally I think that's a fair sentence, plenty of people think he should have got more and that he got off lightly.
Whether you like Alex or not, remember that this sentence could affect you too. You can now get a long custodial sentence for upsetting someone's feelings or "causing distress". Dangerous times indeed.
I ended up remanded in Chelmsford & my story banned at Crown for exposing family child ab*se..
I don't understand all the people who so clearly revel in this outcome do exactly what Alex was prosecuted for.
I don't know why they think this monster won't come for them.
This verdict does not mean that you or I will get 5 years for a few nasty comments - Bellfield ran a10 year campaign of harassment for multiple victims. There are plenty of people on here posting critical videos or making nasty comments. The difference is that Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of their kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.
@@zantas-handle Don't bother with facts. They want to believe he's a martyr and all he did was say some ''hurty words''. They don't want to believe he took them for thousands in ''donations'' either, or that he threatened to ''out'' a gay man despite his own sexual ambiguity. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
@@zantas-handle Yes, those were the parts of his long-running, vengeful campaign which cannot be so easily justified. Bringing in kids' photos with vile addenda isindicative of what a vile clown he is. Worse, he was never even slightly amusing.
No way this sentence was for stalking. He took on the establishment and in their eyes that is the worst crime you can commit.
its funny how he does not like grooming gangs or the establishment , and he gets 5 years , sorry but no one will ever convince me , that this is not a fit up , nobbled jury perhaps , bbc , govt , police , it stinks , if he is a stalker for basically emailing and sticking up for himself on various issues , and despising the bbc , i really hope they never come for me , he is a total lamb compared to what i would do if severely provoked , the transcripts he read out of the trial were clearly factual or he would have been in big trouble , the victims were mostly homosexual men with clearly mental health issues , evidence was mainly non existant , 29 of 6000 emails ?? , and lets not forget , oh i cant remember , this stinks of tommy robinson all over again !
@@troffmeister68 Stalkers have physically attacked their victims and got less. Hope he appeals.
He didn’t take on the system, he was a defendant.
The system came for him.
He led everyone to believe he was the plaintiff. The man worked at the BBC, by definition he’s a narcissistic bell end.
@@sheffielddavemt125adventur3 So you are saying him highlighting police corruption and incompetence, the BBC's corruption, incompetence and fixation with paedophilia was wrong?
@@63mckenzie I hate the BBC just as much as the next man. Thousands of emails over ten years isn’t simple stalking, I said years ago there was more going on with him.
He’s been made an example of to be sure but Snow White he isn’t.
The British legal system showing yet again that it is farcical 🤷♂️
And victimises certain people....
It's set up to keep the likes of the Black Belt Barister employed; why else would legalese exist?
He didn't defend himself. Didn't take the stand. Why didn't he get cross-examined? Something to hide? The jury will have lots of evidence of the allegations and none to refute it. This removes "reasonable doubt" and thus a gulily verdict was given.
There were others, not mentioned in court, that were harassed and had a torrid time from Belfield for years.
The justice system is working and we have one less sanctomonious and supercilious stalker on the streets.
This is why we should never consent to be bound by the statute system and the admiralty commercial courts. COMMON LAW ONLY.
Exactly the judges seem to lean on the leftist agenda and anyone who goes against or doesn’t fit their victim hood gets shown and unfair rogering 😢
I’m no fan of his and find his content mostly offensive/tedious, but this is an extremely harsh and excessive sentence for what was essentially online haranguing. There are much worse crimes that are given less severe sentences. I can’t help but feel there is a political motivation here.
I thought his videos were about abusing celebrities and their kids for laughs. Did he do politics?
I think it was more than online haranguing.
Not saying AB is innocent but there are people who have tried to get real life stalkers stopped. The police ignore them and they end up murdered by their stalker. If you are famous though it's a different story.
@@SaxonSuccess comparatively excessive though
exactly doing GBH will get you 6 months barely but this 5 years !!! outrageous
My friend got stabbed in the chest in a unprovoked attack missed his heart by 10mm his attacker got three months sentence and he had a previous conviction for ABH
But that is not as bad as making a comedy sketch about someone
The system screwed him for speaking out, when I heard he was representing him self I didn’t think it would end well, but no way expected 5 year plus
No, he was sent to jail for stalking.
Just desserts…..
@@enjek5654 some people seem to equate stalking, to "sending some cheeky emails".
@@enjek5654 its not ssalking its for taking the piss out of the cult god bless
@@John1873-- Who?
The sentencing shows what happens when you aren't obedient and speak up against our backwards system. Very scary
No it shows what happens when you stalk multiple people. Hes a life ruiner
He spent 10 years stalking people, and their kids....How would you feel if it was you and your kids and family....No doubt A bellfields worshippers, who blindly follow him, allowing him to graft 300k out of them think it's exposing corruption..Lol Think about it, you don't need a hero to see the corruption going on....Try standing alone , and thinking......Thinkers don't follow a mass , I certainly refuse to follow anyone....Don't need a leader or hero
@@Em-im1yz Sorry, but you can't condone this sort of jail time, it's utterly disproportionate. I detest AB, but this is insane.
You're critical thinking skills are sadly lacking
@@gumusluk05
Please explain your last statement
This is harsh , I think. Physical stalkers often receive non custodial sentences . For me I’d have thought a suspended prison sentence would have been better. As it was agreed in court that there was no physical act therefore the threat of violence was not likely.
Yeah. That’s why you aren’t a judge
He pleaded not guilty. So that put more on his sentence.
@@kaarhrahh-thevoiceofreason1810 Judges are politically compromised. We no longer have an impartial judicial system
@@andyforshaw8489
He also showed no contrition, no regret, no measure of culpability and continued to declare his innocence by dint of his arrogance if not his rather more careful rhetoric since the verdict. He fully expected a suspended sentence, which would have been no punishment at all for the arrogant Mr Belfield.
Most physical stalkers know their victim. This means the victim generally knows that they mean no harm. It's surely worse when you don't know what they are capable of?
Unfortunately for Alex he had a big red cross on his back, the same as Tommy for telling the truth. When you are drilling down and getting closer to what is really going on, this is what happens.
He has an audience, they are using him to set an example. How dare he stand up to the establishment. Or to expose the truth of their ways...
Belfield is also alleged to have obtained a victim's mother's contact details, made a phone call to the victim's mother, covertly recorded the conversation and tried to blackmail the victim to do what he wanted, with the threat of posting the audio recording online if he refused to do so.
@ Nik. Truth through the lens of a very angry, bitter and unbalanced, ex employee.
He’s a vicious,manipulative blackmailing stalker….he ripped his fan base off for cash and lied to their faces..this nasty piece of 💩got everything that he deserved,don’t waste a moment’s sympathy on this waste of space.
@@michaelmarron8441 2 years ago the above was thrown out of court and the perpatraitor was not charged but protected
@@michaelmarron8441 alleged??? In other words it never happened and had no impact on his ridiculous sentence.
Why consecutive rather than concurrent? A burglar breaks into 4 houses - 4 SEPARATE CRIMES but usually sentenced either as a job lot or for 1 with 3 other offences taken into account. Personally I think he needs to appeal to either get the sentences to run concurrently or preferably suspended. And perhaps even to pull the mental health card from the deck in mitigation as many others do?
And had the cases arrived at court SEPARATELY would they have presented as being of merit to prosecute? And WHY 8 cases - 4 guilty - 4 not guilty - all brought at the same time after such a long time? And of course the 'star witness' weeping in the witness box! Was he the leading light to bring the cases as the best known individual. Who arguably stalks motorists on a daily basis with the assistance of gopro!
If KP can escape jail after breeching a restraining order - then what the blazes is going on?
What's going on Alex belfield hasn't got freemasons behind him BBC courts etc etc are all freemasons do your stupid hand signs You're free to go
He's a political dissenter. He is being made an example of.
@@tech10k14 He's not a political dissenter. He's a narcissistic bully who can turn a phrase. I've watched plenty of his youtube stuff and, whilst he occasionally has a point, his focus is always himself and how society doesn't work in the way that he wants.
he should have given the mental health card in the hearing instead of not taking questions.
@@MaitreMark No he shouldn't. A little research into the case and you quickly see an establishing series of behaviours. He is a disturbed, possibly dangerous bully who like to whip others up to do much of his harassment for him. He's gotten exactly what he deserves.
Absolutely disgraceful sentence, hurt feelings carry more penalties than serious violence . British justice is just a joke these days
More than 'hurt feelings' in this case if you read the court transcripts. Bellfield's harassment spanned over 10 years for some of his victims, and involved their families and children. This wasn't just sending a few emails, it also involved calling in to radio shows, plus phone calls to family members to badmouth the victim. At least one call (to a victim's mother) was recorded and posted online. His victims have explained that Bellfield also nabbed pictures of his victim's kids and reposted them online with nasty comments, even attaching a picture of one woman's baby scan to an email 'saying 'we have your home address' and threatening legal action against the husband. It was a 10 year campaign against multiple victims, which is clearly unacceptable.
Don't mess with the establishment is the message here. By that I mean judges, the BBC, the police. If you do choose to question them make sure you're not a white, heterosexual British male or they will punish you and punish you hard!
"Hurt feelings"
Dude, do some actual research
THINK!!
He's been made an example of for the woke brigade. Katie Hopkins sums this up perfectly. ua-cam.com/video/WPL5O66OZsI/v-deo.html
The whole system is broken imo. My ex stalked all he’s exes including myself plus actual violence towards my son and self. Breaking in and other things. But the police did absolutely nothing. I cannot understand our system at all. It’s ridiculous. Ty for explaining. I don’t feel he deserved that much time.
I seen the same, including putting app's on a childs tablet and using it to hound someone, I assure you if you had enough money, you would have got a different outcome, the rich always get a better legal system, lack of fund dictates the final outcome.
@@Taz6688 💯
The same applies when my son with asd was bullied by a teacher and locked in a room. The damage she caused to him and still allowed to teach. If I had money she couldn’t of got away with it. It’s disgusting
We know how the judge got there. Nobody is more corruptible than the legal "profession".
Yup, especially the English justice system with all the gongs of privilege that they like to hand out. As if the Depp fiasco wasn't shameful enough.
100%, corruption is rife in the legal sector, solicitors barristers and judges all drink from the same trough. Most attend the same masonic lodges and are as bent as they come.
@@roberttaylor6075 I have a solicitor, and barrister as neighbours. I avoid them. I also have a joiner who lives next door, we get on fine.
Blimey. Harsh and rude, considering where you’re posting.
Why are you watching this channel if you have such a low opinion of the legal profession?
I am totally devastated by this sentence. This is political. He was exposing the non-jail sentences of police officers and establishment figures on a daily basis, some of whom had committed serious sexual offences. They had to shut him up.
What a load of utter horseshite. How in the hell is contacting the clients of a wedding photographer and using the photo of his 2 year old child with the word liar written over it exposing police and establishment figures? The man is a disgusting hideous bully,. A truly foul individual and defending him only raises serious questions about your own character
The man is an absolute maggot...The best news I've had in ages and I'm so glad he's been locked up. When a man is so bitter and hateful, the best place for him is behind bars to protect the rest of us from his bilious and odious stalky behaviour!
The irony is Alex had full Faith in the crown Court, maybe if he didn't block anyone who was slightly anti monarchy, he would have learned something... Shame, voice of reason and free speech my arse.
Yes, Leslie Reed, he was actually doing some PROPER, REAL journalism, not like the @BBC, Jeremy Vine, or the Nottingham Post do. Showing them all up for what they are.
@@mentaldavethefirst ok now work your body you're doing great champ lol TKO f****** over
There must surely be appeal. The evidence for the four counts he was convicted of is flimsy. The subtextual conviction is for daring to square up to the BBC - I realise BBB’s tongue will be tied to an extent here and his commentary must be judicious but - and I find a fair few of AB’s politics unpalatable - the fact he was calling out celebs in public online shouldn’t have merited this punishment. Appeal, appeal, a-fucking-ppeal!!!!
He wasn't punished for calling out celebs in public online, he was punished for 10 years of stalking by E-mail. Private E-mails (not public) and hundreds of them, not flimsy whatsoever.
I did think it was harsh at first but 10 YEARS is a long time to stalk someone and now I actually find it correct. I'd understand If it wasn't a long time and only 1 person but 10 years and 4 people now it makes sense.
Belfield took thousands in legal expenses from his subscribers & spent the money on holidays & other luxury goods. He then decided to represent himself in court. His hubris was his ultimate undoing.
Read this and you maybe a little better informed, though judging by your comment, I'm not holding up much hope. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
@@711honvedwhat is your Evidence for these claims that this money has been mis used
@@ian260672 It was a stretch to call it stalking. I'm surprised they had the gall and astonished they made it stick. Some of these people were mad as a box of frogs to begin with and needed a psychiatrist long before they encountered Alex. They also needed to grow up, man up and remember - sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can NEVER hurt you. They also play acted. Very, very badly. Like Swine with his 'Savile of trolling'. The judge should have told him off for that, instead he now thinks he's a great wit. Instead of a great shit.
We need to sign petition. We need to contact minister for justice. We need to do SOMETHING!
*Why? He plead guilty and is a nasty little man who's made people's lives a misery for years. Can you imagine what it would be like if I messaged you every day between now and February 2033? A decade of insults, threats and constant digs, no matter how many times you tried to block me. Imagine me using a picture of your child that I stole and threatening you both. Every single day for the next ten years despite all your efforts to block me. What sort of person would even do that?*
This reeks of Belfield being made an example of.
as someone who has been stalked, good
A Political Sentence if ever there was one.
@@andipeters743 just like Tommy Robinson.
Locked up for rattling the bones
@@annirvin6555 Robinson hasn't conned anyone out of money, unlike Bellend.
Yes, just like Tommy Robinson.
There’s something dodgy going on behind the scenes in all this, as others have said the length of the sentence is too extreme for the crime. I hope Alex appeals and gets the sentence reduced.
Welcome to Orwellian britain, this stinks.
Do appeals work in a corrupt system?
Belfields biggest mistake was representing himself , the evidence against him seemed very weak im sure professional representation would have won the case
his biggest mistake was stalking people for years and years
If he had just gone guilty from the beginning he never would have had a custodial sentence.
Tbf he got what he deserved.
I thought he’d paid a lawyer to represent him? What was the lawyer for? Or am I missing something
His arrogance and stupidity got him jailed. What was the idiot thinking?
whether you represent yourself or not , should hold no water in any defence ,, your words if truthful and evidence should be what affects the case ,, this would mean anyone who couldnt afford top representation and you get a poor free one would mean you stand no chance anyway ,, the court system in this country is about big words , lies and manipulation by any barrister who will do anything to win , if their client is guilty , they will lie through their teeth to get them off and its the same for the prosecution
The whole system is a game between people being paid huge fees to not find the truth , its to manipulate a jury with zero experience in criminal cases , and whoever does that the best despite evidence wins
We should be allowed to represent ourselves , we should be allowed to tell our truths ,, not have to rely on someone we have to pay huge amounts for just to word it properly or manipulate
the amount of millionaire prosecutors who will have sent innocent people to prison because they were up against a cheap defence put in by the state is appalling and the whole thing needs sorting
Gang rapists are not getting such severe sentences. 5 ½ years for cyber stalking?!! This is an utter travesty of justice.
I've said on GETTR, this Judge would either protect free speech in Britain or bury it, I think we can all see which he chose.
@@dwayne_dibley Criticism on social media is.
The judge at Crown told me there is no such thing as freedom of speech here before banning my life story for 5 years...
I used to watch him through the lockdown, he was funny, Britian had it bad with the lockdowns, and he called poiliticans out, something the opposition wasn't doing, it was his opinion, I guess the rules are different there, but 5 and a half years is ludicrous
he was sentenced for stalking people not that garbage youre on about
@@ostrichman Al Capone was jailed for tax evasion.
I spotted him earlier, he's a royalist nutcase, voice of reason and free speech my arse, he blocked thousands of people.
What opposition. Labour and tory are on the same side a 2 headed coin. We haven't heard a single word out of jeromy corbyn or his supporters or followers in the last 3 years! He has sunk back into the background of which he has done nothing, but collect a fat salary for the previous 30 year. Talk about a job for life. He's alright Jack and the only one who is! The same can be said for the rest of these wool sack mps . 900 at last count in including the unelected lords all on a £100000 a year or better.
People aren't asking the main questions. The ones that actually affect the people.
Why was he representing himself in court, if he'd raised 100's of thousands of pounds from the public, for "legal fees"? Other than constant trips to Las Vegas (a known mecca for gambling) and hookers and strippers (also very expensive in Las Vegas) and first class flights around the world, and a house looking more and more lavish by the day, and obviously, his trustee jacuzzi, where did all the money for "legal fees" go? And once again, why was he forced to represent himself in court?
That was a “heed the warning “ sentence. They must have been rubbing their hands in glee when he decided to rep himself. I know he comes across as headstrong but Somebody should have stepped in right at the get go and told him that representing himself was stupid, not crazy, stupid. He has to appeal this sentence, it’s truly draconian.
I think that if Bellend got out on appeal.....he’d get straight back onto the mic & do the same again!! He is that stupid!
It's a heed the warning sentence as you say. He will be out shortly when the sentence is "reviewed" during appeal. The media has spread the word and the "chilling effect" is in place. His release will gain little attention from the media.
According to this youtube channel he is not allowed to appeal , but either way the jail sentence is in reality 2years and 9 months the other 2years and 9 months is out of prison on licence, he was stupid to represent himself but that was his choice .
I think what Alex was guilty of, was making a _conflation_ between (1) Freedom of *speech* and (2) Freedom to _persistently_ and _relentlessly_ *harass* someone ( that is to say: _bully_ them, using social media/email etc., to a point that they wished to _end their life_ ). And for that, he paid the price.
David how many MSM editors have gone to jail for the same offence and you don’t have to watch social media of someone criticising you to the point you want to take your own life, you can block individuals and have nothing to do with the content.
@@PELTY100 ------ using this type of logic allows someone to abuse another, and then blame it on the _victim_ for whinging about it ...
What did the opposition get? They did stalk, harass and spread hateful lies about Alex.
I can't believe it, murderers get less than that.
No they dont
@@rob.1 I've seen it with my own eyes, as a witness to a horrific murder I found out 3 years latter they got out of prison...
Murderers do not get out of jail after two and a half years. That’s utter nonsense.
@@ElementsMMA Muhammad igboner got 4 years for murd sean woodburn
@@johnmcdonald9295 I shall not argue whether or not it SHOULD have been considered murder, as that is a different discussion.
However, the fact is that Igboner was not convicted of murder. Please do not spin, we have mainstream media doing enough of that in this country..
Stalking is never to be tolerated but Alex’s downfall was relentlessly mocking a police force. The Brotherhood have come together to show poor Alex who’s boss.
Absolutely true... masons stick together
They did break down his door, and repeatedly followed him, wrote e-mails which prompted the broadcasts.
@@whathappenedtomyYThandle absolutely, the police used excessive force, if we had a fair legal system it would be the plods standing trial but I'm afraid this country or should I say caliphate is well and truly screwed
I remember, years ago now, that The Monocled Mutinier (starring Paul McGann) was never screened again after two shewings. The story of a Nottinghamshire miner's son who impersonated First War officers, joined the Etaples mutiny and was hounded by the Establishment after the war and killed by the Police (a true story). It still rankles the Powers in the High Castle.
And the public could purge the thin blue line in 24hrs
Good video. But if all of us declined to give opinions on sentences because they are 'subjective' the questions arises - what makes a Judge's opinion when sentencing 'objective'? There must always be questions asked and opinions given when, as many have pointed out below, the sentence appears to be overly harsh or inconsistent. The judiciary are hardly devoid of their own subjectivities.
What ever he has done like him or not in my opinion the sentence seems very harsh considering other sentences handed out to others for similar or even worse offences
I agree.
This is a threat to everyone, if you tell the truth or express you opinions this is what happens to you, it’s a f*cking disgrace, this country is a cesspit of corruption.
You compare a stalking sentence with a stalking sentence, not other sentences like r@pe or Ped file .
Luckily your opinion doesn’t count the judges does they have all of the relevant information and sentence accordingly....
It really is on the lenient side of the total time he could of gotten. the maximum is up to 14 years for Stalking
Obviously they are using his case as a “show case” to set a precedent for this new world of online stalking, virtual stalking etc…..
...totally agree, online stalking is out of control and yes he has been made an example of
Good point, I remember when phone theft was rife and a kid got 2 years for stealing a £20 phone in the street because he was the first.
It really shouldn't work like this but . . .
Do come back and tell me you've actually read the details of the case.
Its not a 'show case' he actually got far less than convictions for similar crimes, go and ask Matthew Hardy about it, he got 9 years for 3 counts of stalking.
State persecution pure and simple. A warning to those who dare shine a light.
Absolute disgrace of a sentence" sex offenders get less for doing far worse
True, a disgrace.
Two squaddies that unprovoked nearly battered to death an innocent member of the public got two and four concurrent , I don't understand or stand under such a corrupt banking/court system. It's all bollocks
Why are people referencing sex offenders? Seems a running theme
@@ElementsMMA there's also that duo of out and out thugs that nearly killed an innocent member of the public totally unprovoked got,four years two years and two years to run concurrently and two years youth custody for the other. These two maimed for life the victim. He has to rely on benefits, had to wait over six years for any compensation that totalled around£7500 no justice for the permanent injuries caused by two members of uk armed service
@@enduser63 there’s also OJ Simpson who got away with killing his wife and her lover. What is the connection here?
One of the darkest days in living memory! Even the ones celebrating need to be afraid, very afraid! The justice system should hang its head in shame! Nobody is safe now!
When someone who kills someone or several people even with dangerous driving gets a shorter sentence than Alex bellfield then you know this is highly suspicious.. I’ve seen violent criminals inflict horrendous injury against their victims and escape prison .. one punch deaths suspects get two years .. the fact this barrister spends so much time giving reasons why the judge came to his sentencing decision shows his real viewpoint despite him denying he has an opinion on this .. we all know judges have guidelines you don’t need to be a barrister to know that .. yet time and time again judges ignore the guidelines and allow violent criminals to walk free or get a very short sentence so don’t spout your nonsense about judges following guidelines because they ignore then time and time again .. I see at the end of this video this barrister is even trying to tell us that by us disagreeing with the judge we are ignoring the facts .. .. Alex bellfield got done over .. we don’t need to go to law school to see that
Well said. I also detect our dear barrister friend defending the indefensible, somewhat, here.
Well said.
A killer usually hires a lawyer. Alex is too smug for that. Got exactly what he deserved for his stupidity
Amen to that. The law is all smoke and mirrors.
And Alex should not have self-represented. Utter madness. But really they count on us being naïve.
This is a warning to all that even think about standing up for what's right, and for their self.
He got a worst sentence than some rapists.. for sending rude emails.
Except he did a lot worse than that.from what I've heard.
@@davidburrows4801 what we ‘hear’ and what we see are two different view points. One is fact, the other is not!
@Shaolin Style ua-cam.com/video/U_Pebk7uygA/v-deo.html
@@thoughtsonfitness3249 ,well there's victims of him on you tube saying what he did
@@davidburrows4801 are you really a ‘lamb to the slaughter’ ? I doubt that you are?? on UA-cam I can ‘create a perfect life’, we all know it’s fake! Do your own research. These ‘victims’ you mention, who are they? and who do they really work for??
I know someone who's ex was killed at 25 by a guy who was over the limit,speeding and ran a red light. The guy was given 3 years. The worst part is the same person had already killed another man in his own country a few years before coming to the UK.
He made an example of it. Total injustice an utter and total disgrace of misuse of the powers .
Absolutely disgusted with the British legal system
I can't believe he's been found guilty
I'm Beyond pissed off
The cognitive dissonance burns, doesn’t it?
10 years of sending deranged e mails to people on a daily basis. Enjoy prison Alex, I'm sure you'll be popular inside.🤭
Awwwww
He called someone’s elderly mother to make vile accusations and recorded it as a ‘souvenir’. He’s a psychopath and I hope he rots in prison and has a very miserable time.
They came down on him like a ton of bricks as a warning to others not to mess with the powers that be.
Interesting that we put great faith in a jury to come up with a reliable verdict but not for a just sentence. I have yet to read a comment anywhere suggesting 5.5 years is a reasonable sentence in this case and I doubt that the jury, if asked, would have passed down such a sentence.
You need to read a few more then there are plenty stating it was reasonable and many others stating it should have been more. Then read the judges sentencing summing up its available on line Notts Post live have a link to it, he didn't get 5years and 26weeks for one offence it was for 4 convictions, the longest sentence was 2.5 years.
@@lesley1174 perhaps you can post links to all the comments you are talking about as I have read hundreds on numerous threads and I'm not seeing them.
@@ColinMill1 100% Colin. Unfortunately this is not a unique case. The force specific targets around this type of Stalking. Walk into any police station and you’ll see posters about it plastered all over their walls. My brother posted two pictures on a private Instagram story celebrating catching her cheating (she wasn’t in any pictures it was literally us 🍻 saying we caught a cheat, no reference to her). He was later arrested for harassment. This country is honestly down the drain, so is our justice system. Shame on our courts! Shame on our government!
@@ColinMill1 majority opinion is the sentance is too long , regardless of fans or haters , the extreme trolls would have him executed , the dislikers , dislike him and say 5 .5 yrs is too harsh , others think the whole affair is a fit up , with a wider govt bbc police , free speech agenda !
all the so called victims or complainers , have mental health issues as revealed in the trial , most are homosexual men , some with bbc connections who have broken bbc guidelines on one issue or another and have been exposed with no consequencces attached , there is also a protect the gay community agenda from the likes of AB in some of the testimony in court , so go figure , take your corner and make up your own mind !
@@ColinMill1 Try reading some of my many comments where I explain the 'sentencing guidelines' and how the Judge applied them !
Many people were reluctant to speak out against Savile. Perhaps this sentence sheds some light on why?
My material got banned at Crown Court for speaking out against child ab*se within my own family..
I'm shocked by the sentence, the punishment definitely does not fit the alleged crime.
Not alleged. He was found guilty of sending literally thousands of emails after he'd been asked to stop
@@JB_inks why was his house raided 3 times by Nottinghamshire police 2 years ago? Oh yeah because he blew the whistle on BBC and Jeremy vine WASTING OUR TV LICENSE
@@joehayes247 they raided it to look for evidence of his stalking, and using sock accounts to troll with. You didn't actually think he was suing the BBC did you? That's when they were investigating him for stalking.
Also, he raised hundreds of thousands of pounds which he claimed would be used to sue the BBC, but he didn't spend it on a barrister and he did go on holiday, so what happened to all the cash?
@@BigLadGreen he used many many many different email accounts. Didn't you see the video where he used a fake name and called Iain Lee?
@@JB_inks I don’t know I never donated to his campaign. I hate the BBC and not because of Belfield. The BBC are scum.
I went through bullying at school for many years. This caused me great REAL stress. Can I get the bullies jailed for life, please?
If you have BBC friends then you can
@@chrissowerby69 sorry, fresh out, I'm afraid.
@@chrissowerby69 Beat me to it!
If you could tick certain boxes...... probably
@@swamp2thebonegames14 Oh, damn, sorry - I'm a white English man. Oh, well, I'm proud of it!
Basically 5 1/2 years for bullying if they applied this in schools that would get rid of a lot of kids.
Didn't the police recently fail to turn up for 3 days for some kids beating the hell out of their victims.
Bullying. That's exactly what it is. 🤨🙄
They took ten days to turn up when I called the police and that then escalated the situation. Still no justice, none of the perpetrators were arrested.
Committing an armed robbery gets around 12 years.
He must have been very dangerous. 😐
British justice must be seen to fair to work effectively. With history of multiple police (with removed ID) raids based on false accusations involving media person associations where the police did not take action against those persons. Something smells very bad and has left the British legal system damaged today.
It was a long, and complicated explanation, but it left me still needing to know why the sentences were consecutive, rather than concurrent. The length of the sentence leaves me with a bad taste in the mouth. Like many others, I can't understand how he could end up with a longer sentence than violent, and/or persistent offenders.
The sentences were consecutive because the crimes were against different people. If you commit more than one crime against the same person at the same time (or against multiple people at the same time) then it's generally concurrent sentences. In this case however he committed crimes against different people at different times.
@@NickLea It still looks excessive. Perhaps the problem is with the guidelines themselves?
@@NickLea Concurrent sentences are given for multiple burglaries, against different households (different victims) over a long period , all the time. So your comment is dud.
The defendant may want additional comes (so far unconnected) to be taken into account. This isn't them being helpful, this is so that those crimes can't be brought up at a later date, and they can be included concurrently. Meaning with no extra punishment.
Thanks foe the explanation.
@@calvinfatman7918 I'm not sure your comment implies Nick's was a "dud"
Over the past 7 years, the average sentence for "one punch manslaughter" is 3 years and 10 months.
The _maximum_ sentence for GBH without intent is 5 years.
Did you watch the BBB video? A one punch manslaughter is invariably a heat of the moment unplanned crime. The harassment was to many victims, perpetrated for a very long time. That takes the culpability factor up considerably. The sentence for one incidence of serious harassment is up to 12 years so the fact that he got 5 years for the two counts is a bit of a let off for him. He'll be out in a couple of years, hopefully having learned a valuable lesson about trying to make people's lives a misery for his own gain. You don't think youtube creators do it for kicks do you?
Seems to me "stalking" including emails and social media devalues the true meaning and what's rather a much more extreme crime
The fact it's been bundled together puts to shame our justice system
No it doesn't. It just reflects the changes in communication technologies that can allow more unsolicited contact. Online harassment and stalking is very very real.
@@msheldon10 it's real, but considering it in the same level as actual stalking and a sentence reflecting actual stalking is not proportional and frankly, bonkers
@@msheldon10 I agree it is real. It also spills over into the none cyber world when people then turn up at a persons home or start making harrassing phone calls. This has happened many times to people over the years.. The cyber world and the real world are, of course, interlinked.