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A 5 minute tech test on one of the many cheap PCI to PCI Express adapters on the market. Does it work and is it worth buying one. Lets find out.
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So the product does its job... I feel like the video has an unjustifiably negative tone towards it... It's not the adapter's fault that there are no windows 10 drivers for a 20year old, discontinued PCI device... There are plenty of PCI cards with drivers for win7 onwards. I own many PCI cards like this, Soundblaster PCI audio cards or many Wireless LAN PCI cards coming instantly to mind. Imho this adapter is handy.
desolator XT hmmm I don't see the negativity, my conclusion was that it works, there are few but there are legitimate uses for it, and this model is poorly built. Also that it was a very quick and dirty 5 min test. I'd be interested to see others experiences with a better unit.
There are plenty of uses. Would love to see this tested with a 3DFX card under Windows 2000/XP, for example. Additionally, I believe it *may* be possible to dedicate a card to a virtual machine via PCI-e passthrough under the KVM hypervisor, paving the way for a virtual retro gaming PC that uses real hardware.
there are PCI express soundcards that have drivers from DOS to Win 10. Asus Xonar DX for example...... is this soundcard any good?
Impossible mount it in a standard case
got to laugh at a tech reviewer who cant get a ct2518 working in windows :D its like they never had to download their own drivers hahaha. "oh look windows doesnt detect it, I GUESS YOULL HAVE TO USE ANOTHER OPERATING SYSTEM" HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA REDICULOUS
Now: Find an ISA to PCI adapter, and plug it into one of the PCIe to PCI adapters, so we can finally use our AWE64 gold cards in windows 10!
Hehe definitely a valid use for the tech
@@RMCRetro Valid but problematic, as years ago intel removed chipset hardware essential for DMA to function on ISA sound cards. See this thread for more details: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=34001
There are no such adapters that would provide the interrupts(?) for the sound card
@@jamesheg796 there's a USB-to-ISA adaptor, that could work. Technically it provides DMA signals, but IDK how much they're usable.
*Linux At least then you have a chance.
The wind-up Frankenstein toy was hilarious! And this is a great channel!
nickdiba Lol it got me.
You do know that dosbox is available for Ubuntu right? This makes Win 10 and Ubuntu equally viable as choices for your use case. Ubuntu might even be better because it supports the hardware in question. I'm a bit confused because you brought it up and then dismissed it because "that doesn't help [you] with [your] interest in retro ms-dos gaming."
That's a good point I missed that cracking idea of using Linux which had drivers and then virtualised sound devices in DOSBox. Great thinking.
I looked into using a voodoo card a while back and Linux seemed to have full native support.
if you use dosbox, there is no need for legacy PCI cards whatsoever.
but if it is not DOS, i don't think a lot of old games that would require special PCI hardware (like a voodoo 3D accelerator) would even bother to run on windows 10 in the first place
the only situation where this adapter makes sense is if you have a PCI card that is still supported by modern operating systems (yes, these exist) but your new mainboard does not have PCI slots.
If you use the right sound card, it will also work in Windows 10. A good example is the Creative Audigy Cards, which have drivers shipped with Windows 10. Just the Gameport will not work. Besides that i have no problem using it.
Much like Doom, dosbox has been ported to almost anything with a operating system by now. You technically only really need a raspberry pi rather than the full pc for dosbox.
Maybe you should change the title to "PCI Express to PCI" now it's in reverse order :) . Also thank you for the video.
+Buster hah that's a good point I'm back to front with the title
You could install full height cards if you got a PCI extension cable and plug it into a slot that is not in the reach of the motherboard (Full 7-slot ATX Case and 4-slot mATX motherboard.
Also, you could run DOS with this setup, since I doubt that the AsMedia chip needs any drivers. So that way you could have period correct hardware/peripherials with a modern cpu, ram and motherboard. Though you might run into the issue of not finding small enough RAM modules (less than 1gb) with something like DDR4.
This has just become one of my new favorite channels.
RobW0lf Thank you Rob, great to have your support
Also really inspired me to get back into modding&hacking, planning on modding a pi into an old GameGear at some point, though firstly I need to fix one of the ones I have laying around... Just needs a few capacitors replacing and I should be able to make some cash out of it
Awesome, I still have some high end PCI audio hardware that was collecting dust
This is exactly, what I was wondering about. I'd like to upgrade my PC, but my M-Audio card is PCI. And even though my upgrade is only from an older 2 core it to a 4 core it, the motherboard has only PCIe. I'm hoping this will allow me to get around that.
The Microsoft catalog reveals a Vista driver for the ES1371, probably more chance of a Vista driver working than an XP. PS. I also got an old CMI9880 working on Win10 with an XP driver
Using windows Xp drivers in windows 10 is a fuckin chad move. And a massive testament to how well Microsoft treats backwards compatibility.
Say what you will about Microsoft but their compatibility and support for older hardware and software far, far exceeds any other company.
@@dylanrush184 As they said, a Vista driver is considerably more likely to work though. Vista seems to have pretty much been the start of the code underlying the modern Windows versions. For example Windows 7 was barely any different to Vista, likewise changes with each new OS have seemed incremental since then.
From memory I used a Vista driver in Windows 10(& 11 I think) for a device, and it worked with no issues.
This may be useful for things like old IDE controllers, which still have support of current computers. I have such, which is a PCI slot version and is properly detected by UEFI and OS. I can even boot from it, from an "old" IDE drive. That said, IDE controllers probably are not what a retro PC fan would want to use it for anyway. However, there are new motherboards that still have native PCI slots on them. One I know of is MSI PC MATE for AM4 platform, which does have such slots. The one I am using is also MSI PC MATE but for Intel Haswell architecture. So if you really need this, I would buy a motherboard that has such a slot natively on the board, rather than buying this converter. Driver issue would be the same regardless and you avoid all problems mentioned in the video.
Interesting stuff thank you, good to know there are still boards out there with PCI support. I also looked into PCI-E to ISA.... it's possible but the one unit I found cost $$$$.
I've just plugged a Old VIA PCI-Sata+Pata controller card in to recover data from PATA drives. It loads fine but I still have to use an older motherboard to run the Seagate disk checker.
you could put a full size PCI card in there if you used a PCI extension cable
I've just upgraded my PC to coffee lake which is the latest and I specifically wanted a PCI slot, I found several boards that still have one, I got one and it works just fine. I've always wondered about these adapters, and it was nice to see one working, so thanks for putting up this vid.
Do you still use your pci cards?
They may be hard to find now but I have used pci riser cables in the past. You could put this adapter on the last slot of the motherboard, then use the riser cable to just to the next slot in the case past the motherboard. As I said though these cables are likely very difficult to find especially with the massive amount of people searching to pcie risers (gpu mini ng).
There are still some modern motherboards that have PCI slots. I built a computer last year with a Gigabyte B360-D3H Coffee Lake motherboard and it has one PCI slot. It is still available on Amazon. I used it with my high-end Marian Sound Card. Works flawlessly with Windows 10. Also some AMD B350 motherboards have PCI slots (such as the MSI B350 Tomahawk) but you can't buy them new anymore.
Thanks for this!
I finally upgraded my audio PC board, CPU & RAM. I have an old UAD-1 PCI card for audio processing, it works fine on Windows 7 & 10. It doesn't need to be accessible, just needs to be plugged in, so this should solve it for me just great :)
I think the most interesting use for this sort of thing hasn't really been explored: You can pass the PCI devices to Virtual Machines, and emulate running a 5Ghz Pentium processor using modern hardware virtualization features.
Not the most useful or period-authentic thing but it might be rather neat.
The only real use for this adaptor I can see is if you want to use the pass-thorugh feature on a virtual machine to use older hardware with old operating systems. DOSBOX would be a prime candidate for this but you could also do this with standard VM's such as VM Ware or Virtualbox. This would be handy for titles that use features like the Glide API as utilised in the Voodoo range of graphics cards.
What about Asus XONAR DX.... it seems to have drivers up from DOS to Win 10. Is that a good sound card for DOS or DOS trough WIn98SE? I want to dual boot (well triple), XP and Win10 is already setup, I only need DOS or DOS trough Win 95/98SE
*Can you use a Voodoo2 alongside a PCIE video card or inbuilt APU graphics using this adapter?*
I've recently bought one that has 2 PCI slots, based around PI7C9X111SL chip, and instead of plugging directly into PCI-e slot, comes with USB 3.0 A-to-A cable and a little PCI-e to USB socket adapter board.
I kinda liked the idea of breaking out PCI-e from my tiny mini-ITX computer on a long-ish extension lead so I could mess around with whatever PCI board right on my table, with freedom to poke things with multimeter/oscilloscope/fingers/etc :)
In that short time I had it I only had to use it with my old Aureal Vortex II soundcard, which, apparently, is still supported and is working just fine in modern Linux, even down to playing MIDIs with an external wavetable.
P.S. PI7C9X111SL datasheet states that this chip can also act as a reversible bridge, that is bridging PCI-e device to PCI slot. Although no such (cheapo) adapters available from aliexpress, it seems :(
What is that connector name, could you be so kind?
It depends on the card you want to use, the oldest Soundblaster you can use with the Creative drivers on Windows 10 are the Audigy 1, I know I'm using it right now. The PCI128 was already having issues with Windows XP...The Live! and Live 5.1 didn't work with Vista and 7 as well but could be used with the kX drivers.
That is a pretty good trick for me, I need this card to use the Live Drive II front panel on my modern computer, and so far I've only wanted to use motherboards with a PCI slot. Those are being phased out now so I can keep using my old Audigy. on future motherboards.
PCI is legacy now? Feck, I'm old.
Its still on some modern motherboards, and for some reason i manage to still occupy all of them.
Philip Cooper, me too. Lol
@@Anubisviech there are a few boards, though rare and expensive, that support ISA cards for people that still want to use them adek.com/product/MS-98A9
It'd be also useful to check if Linux supports them - both on some modern distro, and on some older one. I don't know if they remove support for old peripherals from the kernel - they certainly do for CPUs.
This is likely, more useful to Windows 7 users as you can tend to skirt by with Vista drivers. However, to get around the mounting problem, you can use a PCI extension ribbon cable as long as there is an empty case slot that is not above the motherboard, which would interfere.
you can get the drivers for that card from the vogons site, just google "vogons drivers" or the model of the card and you'll get lots of information about it. if that's the soundcard I think it is, it's the "audiopci" that creative bought and renamed "sound blaster pci". I did some tests with that card and I got the best results with the drivers from the creative cd, not the ensoniq first release. it works kinda ok in DOS (it's not as compatible as an ISA sound blaster, and it doesn't have FM midi!! it has a wavetable general midi thing but 99% of games use fm), and it works fine in 9x. I wouldn't recommend it for a retro system anyway, an isa sound blaster pro 2 or sound blaster 16 or clone is always better, you get 100% of compatibility with everything in both DOS and win9x.
There is utility to such an adapter. The sound card you used has no Windows 10 drivers, but Windows Vista drivers are compatible and would work. And there are many other cards that would also work well as Windows 10 drivers exist for them. So for 7 pounds that is a bit of a bargain, if it can be used effectively.
That horrifying monster on the work surface terrified me. I couldn't pay attention to a thing!
8)
What about modded drivers like DanielK? Also, I’ve used both PCI to PCIeX1 and PCIeX1 to PCI for different projects before. I think they are handy little adapters but you definitely need to find half height cards like GPUs, USB cards, and sound cards in order to fit things properly in a PC case. Another option would be to use PCI or PCIe extender cables to use a full slot instead of relying on finding half height cards. Hence, there are more options and possibilities you did not explore here.
I would have used that for the Sound Blaster Audigy I had to give up while moving to a non-legacy platform. It had drivers for modern OSes.
0:12 my ocd wants to resolder those power cables coming out of that pcb
and shrink wrap filled with liquid electrical tape ;)
+RetroManCave
I completely concur with your final conclusion; still, i found the video quite interesting nonetheless, and probably very helpful for beginners. good job mate.
With my soundcard dosnt work well, so low-low-low volume
remembering some of those old 'game console on a pci card' systems that basically use nothing but a disk, the physical space of the slot, and the psu from your system, you might actually be able to use those with this, software issues be damned.
This might be a stupid question, but dont most modern motherboards still have PCI slots? You can even see them in this very video
I find it amusing that the motherboard you used in the video already has two legacy PCI slots on it.
Why take the easy option when we can make it as difficult as possible for ourselves?!
This is great. I have an old PCI scsi adaptor that I use for transferring things to old computers. I found some x64 drivers which work in windows 10, but realised I no longer have a PCI slot! I've been using an older machine with PCI in the mean time buts it's a tad inconvenient
This is the computer device equivalent to a car one that would allow you to mount an 8-Track tape deck to a Tesla X... Nice concept, practical as not really... Thanks for spending the 7 quid so that we don't have to. :-)
8track to FM trasmitter
it's do able stupid.
WHY would you want to use win10 for anything anyways?
My question is the hight issue. I have a case could tolerate the extra hight but, how do you secure the card (screw it in ) so it does not come loose?
I had that problem and I decided to install Windows Xp Sp3 and all perfect with my Sound Blaster 64... I needed the midi port to use with midi controller (Evolution MK149) that only works through midi port of that kind of cards. In the year I bought that controller Sound Blaster PCI was the best card and the controllers to use with computer usually had a non standard midi connection. In my controller connector looked as a midi standard with 5 pin but with changes in functions of those pins. Another thing, the card works as a power supply giving electric power to the controller via one of the pins.
So this video is interesting if you have a motherboard without PCI socket and you can install a Windows XP for example, for some devices. It is a shame that Creative just built drivers for old devices until Windows 7.
I have to wonder if this could be used for PCI passthrough to virtual machines. If you installed a period graphics card like a Voodoo2 or something and passed it through to a virtual machine, could you have what would essentially be an almost real hardware retro gaming PC inside your main rig?
Interesting idea, Ryzen with a Voodoo 2 anyone?
If you're using ESXi on the host machine it should work.
It does sound feasible to me. :)
@@steeviebops Is there any tool or something to limit my rmodern ram and cpu speed/cores for DOS`?
I tried exactly the same adapter with my Creative Audigy 2 ZS but audio was very low. I guessed that is probably amp to be blame. Tested volts on PCI pins and -12 volts are missing. Fixed the issue by soldering -12V from MB to PCI pin B01 !
That lil' Frankenstein bugger is cute :)
That looks like a Ensonique 512 which most linux should just work with. I use win10 and kx project for an Audigy 2. I am considering getting some sort of adapter like this but some have cables from inserts to a break out board.
I want a couple of those but the other way around. Pci2pcie... :D
Impossible, the bandwidth isn't there to make that work. There's a reason PCI was abandoned in favor of PCIE
Impossible IS nothing: www.startech.com/eu/Cards-Adapters/Slot-Extension/PCI-to-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card~PCI1PEX1
@Retroboi The PCI-e card will simply run slower - many PCIe cards don't need even 133MB/s of transfer speed. I wouldn't want to plug a 10Gbit ethernet in but a 1Gbit should work fine.
@@SebaUbuntu If you read what I wrote, I never said a GPU would work.
@@SebaUbuntu U wot m8, some GPUs are PCI-e cards, but not all PCI-e cards are GPUs. Figger it oot..
i see potential running XP, or even the early releases of ReactOS
If the drivers are installed can these cards be brought to a guest OS in virtual box and be used in there exclusively ?
HikikomoriGamer I would say so yes, perhaps you could run VB in Linux and it would work
yes it can
I have a Sound Blaster Audigy ZS PCI this is the one with the nice front panel with remote and lots of input/outputs so this should work I will need to modify the case to secure the card.
This is exactly what I'm looking for too. In my case I'd like to keep using a Creative Labs Audigy 4 pci sound card.
As pci slots for newer motherboards are rare, and I would like to use a high end MB rather than the lower end model that has a pci slot. I'd like to see the pci-e converter with something that has Win10 drivers tested.
I don't think DOS support is principally possible with ASMedia cards at all. It appears the PEX8112 has more extensive features needed for DOS-compatible soundcards, but the required features won't just work on off the shelf mainboards. The problem is that PCI and ISA are buses, they can listen in on everything that passes through the bus, and that's been heavily relied upon on ISA soundcards and standards they in turn established in DOS software; however PCIe is not a bus, it's a switched network, so the correct data packets simply don't get routed to the card - it gets force assigned some I/O window, and that's it. That I/O write to port 0x388 AdLib/OPL simply doesn't reach any particular PCI-e card, and things get more desperate the more features you need, that's just the basics.
Similarly, some Windows and generic Linux drivers that relied on those features and bus nature of prior busses will be unable to do anything either.
I notice that your moutherboard seem to have a PCI slot is that a requirment, i guess that means PCI support within BIOS.
The more obvious problem is that it won't fit into the case now that it is an inch up from where it is supposed to be unless it is a half height card to start with and you can make a custom bracket.
You say that Linux doesn't help your need for DOS gaming, but under Linux you can still pass down your native Soundblaster down to DOSBox just as well. At least in that case it can do what you want where Windows seemingly cannot.
I mean in the end, it's hard to beat a 486 with an AT style PS/2 keyboard port, but if you're going to go the weird way, might as well accept the solution might be weird as well.
X-fi music is excellent and still works with Windows 10, it would totally be worth it if it wasn't for the high prices on ebay (about 50 USD right now). I mean you could just buy a new PCI-E sound card. Another problem is the height, you'll have to modify your computer case.
If you can get 32bit Windows 10 installed, you could in theory use drivers back to XP or 2000 on it. Or if there's a 64bit XP driver, you could use it with modern Windows.
Both my Z170 and B150 motherboards still come with two PCI slots. I never used them for anything, but they are still there.
Michi Lo useful! There is of course still the problem of installing DOS natively but as others have said a virtual pass thru into a VM or emulator like DOSBOX might be possible. This was a very quick video I think perhaps a follow up is needed some time.
@@RMCRetro you mean both graphics and sound cards or just sound cards trough VM/dosbox? BTW can VM/DOSBOX limit our ram and cpu speed in proper wayy (i have 16gb of ram and i7 8700K). Win XP (including 3D drivers) and Win 10 are working perfectly with my Coffe Lake setup, I just need something for my legacy DOS games....
One of the positive aspects of Windows NT (5.0 and beyond., although this is true for Windows Millennium Edition as well) is that any WDM Driver is Supported.
This means provided there is a Windows 2000 / XP / Vista / 7 / 8 / 8.1 Driver available., it will install and generally work relatively issue free. In fact Windows 8 / 8.1 Drivers are 100% Compatible., at least the Drivers themselves.
What you have to watch out for are Driver Packages that include additional Software / Services, as these WILL NOT be Compatible between Windows. So it's better to Manually Install just the Driver., instead of installing the Driver Package.
Windows Automatic Driver Search will *only* update from the WHQL Driver List provided by Manufacturers... as there are typically no WHQL Drivers for the Hardware you're using, in fact Windows 10 is still has a *very* small WHQL list often resulting in the need to manually install Driver Packages, even those for Windows 10 ... this is going to be something you tend to have to deal with normally anyway.
Strictly speaking most Older Hardware while it won't always Automatically Detect as such., can typically be installed and use Microsoft Generic Drivers. Any Sound Blaster 16 Compatible Card for example, can be installed using the Microsoft WDM Audio Driver *or* Generic USB Audio Device Driver.
So for an Ht Omega Claro+ sound card, this should work because HT Omega still supports the card through drivers?
One could work around the height limitations by using a PCI riser cable. It would be cool if I could use my old SBLive! in my current PC. There's some hacked together driver that would enable that, with some tricks like a fully programmable DSP and using the secondary output with the better DAC as the primary one, but I couldn't get it working years ago.
could be useful for a pci asus xonar. they are low profile, too
kaltblut Yeah, so you can use it in your future build :D
is this sound card actually good?
You gave a biased review of this adapter card in my opinion. Its common knowledge drivers written for XP won't work on Windows 10 properly. That not the fault of the adapter card. Try the adapter card again with the same soundcard and bootup Ubuntu. I bet it would work. Most cards will work with this adapter card under Linux providing they don't have proprietary chipsets coz the Linux kernel picks up expansion cards without the need of a driver (unlike with Windoze).
Ubuntu is in the video
I bought the same connector, but it won't start once I plug it with the power connector, going into the connector itself. It simply won't launch the PC.
Maybe a pci raiser cable? Have the old card sideways somehow in the chassi.
Thanks for the video. I'd like to upgrade my i7 3770 machine, that I use for home recording. But my soundcard - an RME Hammerfall HDSP 9632 - is pci, but still a very competent card. RME are really great at support, I've used the card in Win 7, 8 and 10, with no problems now, and they updated the drivers just last fall. So the conclusion was just what I"d like to hear. I"l have to find one, that can contain a full-height card though.
Sadly, many older PCI based sound card, such as Yamaha YMF series, Ensoniq AudioPCI, don't support 64-bit OS.
What if you used VMware with win98 then installed the correct drivers for the sound card? That way you have 98 in a modern machine but so not have to emulate all the hardware.
i just upgrade my pc and i want to use my old pci sound blaster card but my new mobo has only pci-express slots , any suggestions plz ?
I do not agree with the notion that you cannot use non-MS OSes for retro DOS gaming. There is a piece of software called DosBox. You can install the cards on a Linux machine and then use DosBox to run whatever DOS game you desire there. And it runs fine.
You are of course correct, I was referring to native DOS gaming with DOS natively installed as the primary operating system. This was a quick and dirty play around with the adapter, there appears to be enough interest for a more in depth video about it, but I think I'd want an adapter which looks like it may last a little longer than 24 hours in its build quality if I was to explore it further :D
its capaple with all generic "cases" ?
Do they have one of these for say ISA? Would be cool to play around with old adlib and soundblaster cards on a modern system.
Do you know if you have a card (in my case it is a SoundBlaster Audigy SE PCI) and it it supported on new operating systems but the pc doesn't have a pci slot, this adaptor would work ?
Hint: The SB is a low profile card.
Any idea what happens if i wrongfully insert a pci card to a pcie x16 slot, and then turn the pc ON ? Does it damage the motherboard or the card itself ?
The problem tho with the adapters is that they are raising the slot too high and the card wont fit into the case.....
Dosbox on linux would be nice. You can also do PCI passthrough to a dos VM
Hi ... I own a motherboard from gigabyte ( model b550 aorus elite ax v2 ) and I want to connect a pci tv tuner card from Aver Media TV Super 007 analog
OS is windows 10 x 64
Is this procedure wanna be easy from me to achive or not ???
I have already ordered this adaptor and I just waiting for purchase this item
That means no more covering case?
My question is will it work with a pci gpu? I have a board without onboard video and i don't want to buy a pcie gpu to use with it nor will i need video for long, just enough to get a server configured without having to borrow a gpu from another device. I already have a low power pci gpu that i can throw into it.
Pass it through to a Windows XP VM. Should be able to use it, drivers and all.
or, force windows to work with unsigned drivers (if xp or vista x64 drivers do exist).
what about using an IDE RAID adapter on such PCI Express to PCI Adapter
This seems to work pretty well to me, other than the fact that you can't fit the card in a case. Somebody should make an ISA to PCI or PCI express slot adapter.
Vesa Local Bus might be an option considering the costs of a videocard nowadays :)
Will this work properly with an x-fi? i am not wanting to spend 150 bux on a new audio board
Could this be done the other way arround? Is there a way to convert PCI to PCIe?
4:04 "I'll just walk around here and a little bit more, just keep walki.. oh.. what's this? A PCI card in a PCIe slot? Abomination!"
Can you pass it through to a KVM VM running the OS of your choice?
Actually B660M DS3H and Sound Blaster Audigy SE don't work.
Drivers good and windows detecting card but no heard any sunds ???
Could you saw the sound card in half to make it fit?
I have used this adapter to successfully install an AVM B1 PCI ISDN telephony card to a PCI-e riser cage fitted inside a Proliant DL380 G6 server. There is a hard to find x64 driver for Windows 2016 Server.
Just use the one of the 2 PCI slots on the motherboard... :p
You could solve the case height problem with a PCI riser cable.
erica you could, if you have a short motherboard that doesn't cover all the rear slots you could then mount it succesfully in the case. I'm not sure how long a pci riser cable can be without issue. Any ideas?
If you use a dualboot of xp and 10 and your gaming graphicscard is not supported for XP this is an fix. I disabled the old in 10 and viceversa so no conflicts happen
Yeah... Drivers. That's a tough one. My motherboard in the system I still use has PCI slots.
But I tried a PCI sound card, and predictably, there's no windows drivers.
Further investigation shows the last OS supported was XP.
One thing I did try, was ReactOS, but that didn't install on my desktop - it worked on my laptop, but ironically perhaps gave no sound whatsoever.
ReactOS still needs a lot of work, I suppose.
(If you don't know what ReactOS is, it is an attempt to reverse engineer windows and create an open source alternative. - At the moment the exact goals are perfect compatibility with windows 2000. Aka NT 5.0 - it shares a substantial chunk of it's codebase with WINE, but of course, unlike WINE, implements a reverse engineered clone of the Windows NT kernel, rather than trying to run on top of linux or other unix-like systems.)
i had some old midi interface (emagic AMT8) that was supported up to XP, windows support was dropped after apple took over that company. but it was possible to with some roundabouts to get those drivers to work on later windows, but only on 32-bit, so that was kinda pointless to me
it did however work fine in a linux VM from within a more recent windows, talking the midi signals back and forth with a midi-over-ethernet virtual driver on both ends, the performance was still surprisingly good lol
your video title is the wrong way round PCI to PCI Express Adapter should be pcie to pci adapter
There actually is a driver for win 7 32bit available for the ensoniq es3171 but i dont know where i found it...
I bought one too via ebay, tried it in 2 different systems with 2 different soundcards, and got no sound output.
Asrock H67M motherboard also using ASM 1083 pci-e to pci bridge chip, but in there every soundcards work perfectly, so i probably got a bad converter, or it is simply a badly designed converter, because i read others having no sound issue too. :\
There are unofficial soundblaster drivers to win 10
I use a very nice, PCI-based soundcard called the ASUS Xonar Essence ST. Someday soon, I will need to build a new PC, and a traditional PCI slot may end up being not an option. The soundcard can be replaced with the PCIE-based STX variant, if I'm willing to cough up another $200. Obviously I've instead looked into solutions like this converter. I've mostly read about failure stories when it comes to this option -- the thing just wouldn't work. But even if it does in my case, as it seems to here, I can't help but wonder whether having a converter between the card and motherboard would end up affecting the sound quality. The whole point of using the Xonar Essence ST is the low distortion it delivers. It is essentially a headphone amp on a card. I can attest to its quality. This is a lingering question I'd love to hear an informed answer to.
Asterra2, this is exactly what I'm looking for too. In my case I'd like to keep using a Creative Labs Audigy 4 pci sound card.
As pci slots for newer motherboards are rare, I'd like to see the pci-e converter with something that has Win10 drivers tested.
i dont find pcie x16 to pci adapter
HELLO CAN I INSTAL Creative Audigy 2 TO THIS adapter???
Thanks for the review but you already have a pci slot 😂 And I’m deciding to use this for my sleeper pc (because I’m using old hardware and modern mix) so I can use an 18 year old Ethernet and modem card lol
i wonder if it will work with pci-e passthough into a VM