Shameless: A Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- The Gallagher children led by oldest daughter Fiona (Emmy Rossum), who takes on much of the child-rearing responsibility due to her mother's absence manages to raise themselves in spite of Frank's there fathers lack of parenting and unusual parenting style when he does choose to act like a father.
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0:00 What is Shameless
5:12 Fiona
11:37 Lip
17:19 Carl
18:19 Ian
22:55 Frank
32:18 Debbie
35:22 Other Characters
42:23 Relationships
45:22 Season Rankings
01:03:24 Final Thoughts
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Season 7 was where I view the show comes to its natural conclusion. Debbie was able to find a steady career to help support her and her baby. Ian was able to get ahold of his bipolar and find a stable job that he truly cares about. Carl was able to evolve from a child with sociopathic tendencies to someone who has found a purpose in life with the military. Lip is truly working to get ahold of his alcoholism and try and go back to school when he is stable. And Fiona was able to find a potential way out of the neighborhood while still supporting her family. This here is my true ending of Shameless
This is why people can't deal with the ending... ya'll wanted a real story with a fairytale ending and that's not the story being told.
@@1367DammanKOI truly don’t understand how Lip’s arc is the most disliked, it’s an absolutely perfect portrayal of wasted potential held back by himself and his past. That scene in the last episode when he’s a delivery driver and fixes somebody’s computer problem and then is immediately dismissed sums it up perfectly.
I truly think a lot of the fanbase wanted the Gallaghers to end up filthy rich and happy and happily ever after the end, they’re just too embarrassed to admit that so they’ll talk about vague ‘bad writing’ as if they hadn’t praised the show for being ‘realistic’ for years
I honestly kept going just to see gallavich come true they were so dear to my heart.
@@1367DammanKO This!
Was it a perfect ending? No, but I did really enjoy it cause it made a really good job ar portraying that life is not static.
Was Tami pregnant? Who knows. Will Lip ever find a job to fullfil is true potential? who knows. Will Ian a Mickey ever find the way to become parents? Who knows. Will Debbie find a healthy relationship? Who knows. We'll Carl become te new owner of the Alibi? Who knows.
Every character had some unfinised bussines in the finale, they all had maybes and wants to resolve cause THAT'S life, it does not end once everyhing his neatly wrapped and has come to an agreable conclusion. Life keeps going and sometines what seemed to be already finished bussines can come undone and force you to figure yourlsef and you life up all again.
I gotta agree I just finished my first rewatch and I probably tweeted as if the show was ending three times and I meant it most in season 7 lol. Just wanted it to end but I knew i had four more seasons to drag through
i completely agree with how they had Lip’s college experience play out bc it is so realistic. when youve lived in poverty all your life and you see all the wealth on a college campus…Class shock is real, and disorienting.
I was blown away by the amount of money I saw on campus. Kids in Mercedes and Audi’s who had full meal plans to eat three times a day! but who opted for off campus food instead! they got an allowance from family to buy things and took unpaid internships bc they didn’t need the money… it was so humbling and also depressing
I relate to your comment and Lip's experience so much! I got a scholarship to a private university. I grew up very poor with neglectful parents. I got to college and was surrounded by pampered kids who had never known want or hunger. The very idea was unfathomable to them. The culture shock I experienced coming out of poverty was pretty stark. I resented so many of my peers. They had no idea how good and easy their lives were.
I relate to Lip a lot. I was pressured into going into college when I really didn't want to go. In the end, dropping out worked out for me. I have a full-time job with full benefits now. College doesn't always guarantee success.
Absolutely this.
I’m heading into my sophomore year of college this fall and my freshman year was a total shock.
I live in the inner city, I grew up poor, raised by immigrant parents, and by the time I’d graduated high school, my graduating class lost around 12 students due to gang violence.
Now imagine the shock I felt when I went to the state university, was surrounded by wealthy peers who grew up higher-middle class suburbia driving their Jeeps, Audis, Mercedes, BMWs, and even the latest model of luxury Ram and Ford pickup trucks (that arguably probably have never seen a day of work in their lives besides driving to Top Golf); spending money like it’s nothing.
Rushing a fraternity was also quite disorienting, it felt like every other guy rushing had connections and through those connections, was able to land a bid. I had to start from the bottom and work my way up.
Not to mention, now that I’m in a fraternity, it’s insane how many guys’ parents pay their dues and give them allowances. Meanwhile, here I was sacrificing free time working to make ends meet.
Don’t even get me started on the gentrification of the town adjacent to the university. Entire blocks where cheaper and affordable older houses and apartments once stood has now been bought up and torn down by developers to make room for massive apartment complexes with rent that only students with wealthy parents can afford (there’s no way anyone’s making rent working part time). Because entire blocks have been swallowed up by these giant blocky modern apartment buildings, the rent of older homes and apartments has gone up.
“idk if anyone remembers the jacksons” dw sheila is one of the most universally loved characters from the whole show
And you can't forget the mess of Karen, Lip, and Mandy.
Not that I’m saying anything unpopular, but I really love Ian and Mickey. Those actors just grew so well into those characters; their chemistry held up the final seasons and radiates through the screen.
There had to be one sibling with a consistent (if messy) relationship for us to root for. And for me, mickey made Ian way more likeable. I love cameron monaghan but Ian as a character always bored me by himself.
Unpopular opinion, but Fiona was Frank’s favorite child. There’s two times where Frank is in a near death experience and it’s Fiona who he thinks of.
The first instance is the one mentioned in the video where Frank thinks the little girl is Fiona, then at the end of series before Frank dies he is just wondering around Chicago and all the places he goes to are related to Fiona (Patsy’s restaurant, the apartment building she owned). In his most vulnerable moments it’s Fiona he thinks of. Not to mention the few times Frank has referred to Fiona as being beautiful.
That little girl gave up her last moments to comfort a piece of garbage that didn't deserve that beautiful angels time at all it was absolutely heartbreaking she was there in that situation without her father but frank didn't deserve that girls final moments it was hard to watch
I mean she was his first child. The memory he experienced with the girl in the hospital was him feeling guilty for leaving her at the park. He loved Monica and prolly was really excited the first time he heard she was pregnant, maybe thinking having Fiona would change him and Monica…but sadly she couldn’t
@@catherinenicole4322 none of them were Frank’s favourite. Lets stop this narrative
Frank was Frank’s favorite.
this isnt unpopular, this is so obvious thru out the show
I can’t get over how unfair it is for there to be any Fiona hate… by the time we meet this family Fiona is the only reason they are still alive - she assumed responsibility for her siblings and she loves them, but they are absolutely not her responsibility. She gave up her entire youth and her parents sabotaged her along the way and she will never get those years back.
The only people that hate Fiona are Lip stans, and the majority of Lip stans are people who watched the Bear before watching Shameless, and those people first saw Jeremy Allen White in those Calvin Klein ads. That’s all I have to say about that
The only issue I have with Fiona is that she abandoned Liam. She is his legal guardian, and she just leaves him. The rest are grown, but he's only like 11 I think. I felt so bad for him when Lip wanted to sell the house, and he's trying to find a place to stay. I don't understand why people hate her, but I do understand why some people aren't a fan. I think the show fumbled her exit with not taking Liam with her to start a new life.
@@colehenry7166 that's because the actor for Liam wanted to stay, but Emmy (Fiona) left because they wouldn't pay her what she was asking for. As Macy (Frank) was being paid waay more than her. So, she dipped and said see ya!
@aliceinchainsburns08 that's totally fair for her to leave. My gripe isn't with the actor so much as the writers mishandling a characters exit. To clarify, I'm not a Fiona hater, I quite enjoy her character but I feel the show forgot about Fiona being legal guardian. It would have been very easy for Fiona to leave signed documents to transfer guardian ship over to lip. It's a plot hole I feel sours the character as she exits. I do agree that Fiona gets way to much hate for stupid reasons
I loved Joan Cusack's character so much. After she left it was never the same.
Joan Cusack is so great in everything she's in.
Sheila was such an amazing character bc she was a great foil to the typical way most of the characters are
Fiona stan til the end. Emmy deserved an Emmy for her performance in the show.
My favorite thing about the original uk version compared to the us version is that the Gallagher kids grow and recognize how toxic the family is and they LEAVE and make something for themselves. After a time it got tedious watching the American Gallaghers fall into the same patterns of self sabotage
What is the name of the UK version? Is it also called shameless or something else?
@Sam1D28 ya it's also called shameless, it's the og.
@gravityfalls1826 thank you.
And an extra thank you for being kind and answering even if he did mention it later in the video. So double thanks for your kindness as well.
I wish you a good day/evening :)
@@SammyLammy1D np, have a good day/evening/night too :)
I have to agree there.
Personally, Ian and Monica were great representations of bipolar disorder, Debbie is insufferable and the one who became the most like Frank, and Mickey and Kev are the best characters. Terry is definitely the worst morally, but I find his scenes hilarious most of the time. 😂
Yeses they definitely leaned in too much into the "lip becomes his father kinda" and if they had just let go of that they would've seen that Debbie was truly like frank, even though frank says she is the most like Monica, like ironically she's the most like himself.
How can people say Fiona is selfish ??? She litteraly sacrificed herself all her life since she was NINE for her siblings and even Frank.
I never thought she was selfish. I thought she should have ran away much earlier.
Everyone thought she was a whore in real life too lol.. I wonder why
Honestly i dont understand her hate ever
she was my favorite character but they handled the last part of her arch incredibly badly in my opinion.
like I absolutely hated that she was turned into a compulsive cheater. yes, she was always a woman who liked to have sex, but there was nothing about her that would imply that once she has a great partner she would just throw it all away to hook up with his brother. it didn't make sense and it just seemed like they wanted to make her suffer again.
@@jurgnobs1308 Yes the self sabotage was hard to watch but still believable and it clearly didn't make me love her less.
As much as it sucks to see all the characters “regress” or continue the cycle I think that’s what the show was ultimately trying to say. That childhood trauma and constant lack of any parents will permanently fuck someone up, most people don’t ever get over it or break the cycle even when the realize it.
Lip consistently getting offers that would dirastically better his life but that his trauma and lack of any actual support and never being shone any ways to cope that are healthy lead him to messing up those life changing offers time after time which is hard to watch as a viewer because we see how smart he is and want him to succeed but reality is most people in his shoes would do the same thing especially with the pressure to “do the right thing and make it out the ghetto”. I always think it’s funny watching back when he gets told by the MIT guy about how he’s gonna end up knocking up some chick cuz he won’t wrap it and being stuck never realizing his true potential, because that happens.
Same thing with Fiona people are always calling her a hoe etc but fail to realize she literally had to date and sleep with people as a teenager to pay bills or to get certain things in the house done. Plus between frank and Monica they haven’t seen a single little bit of what a healthy or stable relationship even looks like, leading to her constantly getting with men who are like them like jimmy/steve, Sean, her bosses brother, ford. On top of that she does above and beyond for all her siblings always gets shit on and the 2 times she messes up in the show she does take accountability (far more than the others are willing to do) and still gets ragged on and treated like she’s worse than frank.
Debby ends up just like her mother and frank. She will pretty much do whatever and whoever to get what she wants and is the classic case of literally following in her parents foot steps. She lies and takes the money from all the other siblings spends it on herself and literally has frank say he’s never loved her so much as seeing her she shed.
Ian is bipolar like monica and we see how that progresses till he ends up in jail, he also like lip,Fiona,and Debby is shown to have lots of sex with different people coming back into play with the lack of parental guidance and never seeing healthy relationships, as much as I love to watch them micky and Ian’s storyline has ALOT of toxic elements that really seem to mirror a lot of the toxic elements of frank and Monica’s. I mean the show even makes it seem like micky marrying svet is what actually triggers his bipolar disorder (granted they story spans the whole show)
Carl is a good example of a kid who is left to their own devices and not having any coping skills or anything either turns to violence very young. He actually tries to learn a bit from his parents and siblings mistakes being the only one shown to use condoms, getting tested, even realizing he wasn’t okay with someone making him have sex without a condom and calling it assault (idk why they played that off cuz it straight up was what she was doing) and ends up with multiple children by the end that he doesn’t know about, 2 from Ingrid and then tishs. Even when he tries to break the cycle by going to the military school and becoming a cop he ends up being an absent father to his kids against his own will, once again repeating the cycle.
Liam is the only one I’m not sure how to really explain because the series ends before we really get to see him grow up or really develop his own character. I can imagine he would probably turn out similarly to Fiona in that they had a good head on their shoulder and were smart kids but getting abandoned by everyone in his life, his mom died, frank dies, Fiona leaves, and at the end they are selling the house and it’s not really clear where Liam is even going or with who. It’s also shown he does have concern about this when he asks where he is gonna go and says everyone is leaving him in the show. I think the constant abandonment would lead him down the same road as Fiona that they will be unstable and have unstable relationships but later in life they will find their own place.
Basically all this was me saying that as disappointed as I was watching them make bad choices or be bad people looking at it fully they are doing exactly what broken people with no parents that had to raise themselves would do and I think the show does a great job of showing that and the full extent of how that really does effect someone for the rest of their lives.
I agree. Lip being a genius, but “trapped” due to childhood trauma is very realistic.
My father had genius level intelligence (IQ 147). He was born to immigrants, didn’t speak English until he was 7, was left in an orphanage at 4, was in foster care with amazing parents until 12, when his father took him back - he had the best intentions, but it blew up the first stability these kids had ever had.
Today at 74, he is an alcoholic, with undiagnosed ADHD, and probably narcissistic personality disorder. His brother, only 18 months older than him, was even more intelligent and a talented artist, died of AIDS at 50 after 30 years on heroin.
My father had no tertiary qualifications, but is a jack of all trades, he can rebuild any engine, build you a house or a car, plumber, electrician, engineer, carpenter. He spent 30 years at sea, can navigate by the stars, drive or sail any kind of water craft in wild conditions (been shipwrecked 4 different times from storms at sea, twice rescued by the navy).
Like lip, his happily ever after is being married for 35 year and counting. He really has no concept of family, but has stuck it out as best he can. It’s not very glorious, but maintaining a middle class suburban life - like Lip in the end - is slaying a dragon. It’s an achievement that overcame insurmountable odds to achieve, even though it’s most people’s starting point.
Doesn’t make for a very glamorous story, but it’s real. Lip keeping a job, maintaining a relationship, and being a present father to his kids is slaying a dragon.
"We all knew Ian was going to end up with Mickey eventually after being absent" Oh boy. We did NOT. Cameron wanted to quit and for a moment he did but they decided to bring Mickey back last minute (hence the prison together) and the rest is history. Season 7 was supposed to be a glimpse into the past and then we move on forever but... Yeah. All in all we were in the TRENCHES for many, many dry years
I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this opinion, but I feel like Shameless ended when Fiona left, and the subsequent seasons were more like a spin-off series. The younger Gallagher kids were not made to be tragic characters in the same way the older ones were. As a result they didn't have that experience handling the heavier more grounded storylines like Ian or Fiona, and as a result their plots felt more bombastic and over the top. Oz had the same issue in their last two seasons, in which they said all the stories they needed to say up to that point and everything just felt like shock value after season 4
Don't forget they did the same to orange is the new black and they did some characters dirty
I agree. It wasn't unwatchable but Debbie is definitely not Fiona.
This is the story of poverty. It's generational. It's extremely hard to escape. It's traumatizing, unregulated, untreated mental warfare. It's barely surviving your entire life and passing that to your children who quite literally have never known anything better.
Still can’t believe how dirty the writers did to both Fiona and Emmy, is like she never existed after her exit. I stopped watching after season 7, but did came back for Emmy’s last episode, the Gallavich wedding and the finale, the disservice of Fiona was hard to watch, is like the writers took really personally that Emmy decided to leave, all we got from her is that she joined a dating reality show, what a joke. Ian gets married and we do not hear from either Fiona or Mandy. Last episode did not feel like one either.
Great video. And I also love Mickey so much because he is so effed up but caring & honest. He is trying to break cycles but they are hard to break. I like Ian & Mickey as characters because they aren’t the media go to gay caricature.
And I like that they didn’t have Frank become sober or have atonement with the kids because he never but that work in. It shows how with addiction it pulls you back in & sometimes the people you hurt will walk away. I like that they gave the story of falling into alcoholism and working towards a sober life with Lip. Lip is that “Gifted” that falls down in adulthood. The show also portrays how you can’t force someone into treatment with Lip & Ian. And the people around you balancing out helping and not enabling.
Tbh I feel it’s actually quite a unique yet ironic position Fiona and Lip are in. Both had their respective positions in the house hold as the substitute mother due to being the eldest Fiona and the smart gonna be successful one day Lip actually wish they had each-others roles.
Despite them being put in the roles they received due to their birth placement in the family I think they both actually are better and more suited for each-others roles. Like sure Lip throw away his “potential for success” but then actively became the parent the family needed the only imo really good parental figure that came out of that family beyond compare. He is so capable of handling and taking care of the family and kids which it’s not like Fiona didnt but she clearly struggled. Plus due to the trauma she received from it she naturally wanted out of that position and role (it no longer being suited for her) and in turn she strives for success.
It’s a very ironic but imo quite fitting dynamic of the siblings having roles they try so desperately to stray away from and actively attempt to do the other ones role themselves without truly being self aware that is what they are attempting to do.
‘Mother’ Fiona eventually goes away cause she’s no longer needed and can’t strive for the role she WANTS and is suited for as a successful businesswoman if she sticks with her family and Lip actively doesn’t wish to be successful to the point of always retreating back to his family/position as a Gallagher. But I’m doing so he is actually okay and fine with being in a guardian/parent esc role for the younger Gallaghers, his own child and the leader of the family unlike Fiona who eventually couldn’t cope and wanted to branch away.
Sorry for the yapping but I just find it interesting how the two eldest really tried so hard to step away from their assigned roles in the family and ultimately choose the one the other had. Frankly makes you wonder if there would’ve been the same outcome for each-other just opposite IF Fiona was born second. Would she have been successful if the eldest become parent role didn’t apply to her initially? Or do you think she would’ve been very similar to Lip and try to actively step away from the expectations of being “the one to get away” by the family?
Just food for thought.
Love this show. I’ve binged it about 500 times. I love all the characters.
You’re spot on about Lip. Lip is smart, but he has a superiority complex… especially when he got sober. He’s one of those recovering addicts who is suddenly on a high horse simply because he’s sober… lecturing and judging everyone else.
A-frickin'-men!
I really wished they killed off frank in the earlier seasons, like most of the times his hijinks were not related to the rest of the family and he was just annoying to watch,he’s not likeable at all and as a villain he’s boring and predictable, on a recent rewatch I skipped most all of the scenes with him
Emmy Rossum is a phenomenal actress for someone who started off as a Disney kid. Usually they peek on Disney and that's it.
I can summarize this all with: They should’ve had some shame cuz wtf were they doing
My misogyny litmus test is someone’s thoughts on Fiona
What?
I know people hate Jimmy and his writing was really all over the place but I did feel bad for him when he was reeling from his dad being gay and everyone dumps on him for it, that’s not really my issue, my issue is he *was* going to apologize for bringing it up so much - when they were digging up Aunt Ginger - but Fiona - understandably I will admit - pushes him away when all he wanted was to feel like they were equal in the relationship.
Also I can’t help but see Kev as an R rated Van from “Reba” as they’re not only played by the same guy but they’re both equally stupid.
i didn't know what to feel about fiona around the middle seasons but by 11th season i really really wanted her back with them... i really wanted a happy family... i really wanted them to live near each other... man i want closure.. i really hope they all had better lives now...
I agree with Frank dying in season 4. It would have been so much more interesting.
i'm so sorry but since i stopped watching after s8 so i had no idea frank died and when you said he up and died of covid of all things i choked on my food laughing 😭
was NOT expecting that
This is definitely a realistic show. This is generational trauma. The uk version in my opinion is too optimistic. Coming from someone who’s been around multiple family’s that had drug issues and or mentally unhealthy parents. They can see how messed up it is but they find comfort together in the mess. Only Fiona found her way. Realistic in my opinion.
The original version is actually extremely realistic to working class families in the UK at the time, I also don’t think it’s too optimistic - it just seems that way compared to how dramatic the American version is, the original concept was a gritty comedy based on the show creators upbringing in Manchester
I can't speak on anyone else, but I know from my own personal experience that breaking the cycle of self sabotage is extremely difficult. I see a lot of myself in Lip and I'm currently at a point in my life where I feel I'm at my lowest. Digging yourself into that hole is easy when you've already been put into that hole. My only saving grace is my best friend. She's the one who takes the shovel from my hands. I'm stuck with my situation and my whole childhood I was told that I was smart, that I was gifted. I didn't have a goal in mind for a career, so I just threw myself into college after I graduated only to experience panic attacks every time I went to class, so I just stopped going. I feel like how Lip ended up in his way is just so hard-hitting realistic to me. Disappointing to watch but almost like a cautionary tale for someone like him, like me. I don't have any hope for humanity and it seems like I'm just looking through a tunnel with a dim light at the end. Maybe I can try to accomplish what Lip couldn't and get the hell out, it'll just take a lot of effort to reach that light.
Edit side-note: Unpopular opinion, I ****ing hate Frank and I wanted to punch him every time I saw him, he made me physically sick. It's funny how people love and hate him just like they do in the show. I'm just a big hater, lmao
You have no idea as to how thrilled I am to FINALLY see an analysis video on my favorite comfort show of all time, Shameless. I binged watched all 11 seasons religiously, and it's honestly nothing else but a masterpiece. Even after finishing it, I still couldn't fathom over it being done. I watched endless playlists and clips and anything I could find on Shameless, old and new.
My favorite character is honestly Mickey. A really consistent character whom rarely ever gets dull. Hell, him being gone every now and then sticks true to the nature of his character. A troubled young man going through alot with a shitty upbringing and difficulties with his own sexuality and others, but still manages to pull through every single time.
I'm not gonna ramble on with my own personal analysis or summary on this show, but I'll say this. Each Gallagher, Milkovich, & other characters are still highly synonymous with Shameless.
It's fascinating, to say the least and I'm in love with it in every step of the way.
I still feel saddened by knowing I may never find another show such as Shameless again.
I loved this show, the moment I seen the first episode and have been hooked ever since.
The amount of times I laughed and felt impacted by this show is incredible.
In my opinion, they should at least do a spinoff for Ian & Mickey.
They're the only couple (& homosexual couple) that I actually liked.
I used to hate gays (mainly because of not fully understanding as to how a male could be attracted to the same gender and usually stereotyping them as being all the same).
However, when I watched Shameless, it gave me a realistic depiction of homosexuality and opened my mind to a new perspective on not only sexuality, but romance in general.
I'd recommend Shameless to anyone who hasn't seen it yet. It's a MUST watch.
If you have Netflix (where I watched the show from), then what are you waiting for?
GET TO EXPERIENCING ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF FICTIONAL MEDIA PUT ON TELEVISION.
Once Fiona left I dont think I enjoyed any of the seasons after. Rossums portrayal of her, for me, was the show. The family's treatment of her made it impossible for me to root for any of them again
my biggest issue with this show is the inability of the writers to handle all the serious topics they add into the show. if they didnt take a "lets throw X trauma into the show just to see if it sticks" approach the show wouldnt have fell apart so bad. like we literally have debbie take over as caretaker when shes a convicted pedophile, a date rapist and a worse mom than fiona ever was and the show writers just dont care? or like lips gf at the end of the show having a big reveal that she was groomed by a teacher that amounts to her going "wow i was an innocent girl and he took advantage of me" while lip kind of grins about it lmfao and like this all happens in a single 30 minute c plot in the 4th to last episode. they never try to touch ian being transphobic as a gay man after setting that up. like its literally the opening of the powerpuff girls where he adds CHEMICAL X but instead its a bunch of overpayed writers adding "pepper" from the wrong side of the dump opener on the can.
One reason why S1 one was probably so great is because it already had some building blocks from Shameless UK to work off from. S1 in the US version practically has the same storylines as UK S1.
you did such a good job of conveying the depth of the show, the characters, and their arcs without getting too bogged down in detail. that must've been hard for million season show.
One of the best shows ever made! So real and dark but it balances out with a comedic and wholesome side. Also I love Gallavich so Ian and Mickeys storyline was perfect!
I always loved how none of these characters are perfect. They've all done something messed up. It makes them so much more realistic and easier to relate to.
I love finding a new video essay channel that's just starting up. Your video was entertaining, can't wait to see more.
Thankyou so much I appreciate that ! Glad you enjoyed !
Just found this channel and lemme just say your channel is one of my favorites for commentary! Found you from your All American video and lemme tell you this channel is gonna blow up. Keep crushing it!
Thankyou so much for your kind words !
Loved the show but couple thoughts. I was ok with Fiona leaving but Liam was a toddler WTF? I was disappointed Lip didn’t do better in life. He could t get at least a half way decent job. Debbie was horrible I mean horrible. She was hard to watch. Ian and Mikey truly made the show. The last season with selling the house and how Lip messed that up but the thing that made me angry was no one thought to reassure Liam that he wasn’t going to be homeless. I also felt like it was an afterthought of Lip telling him “you can live with me.”
Lip had a lot of potential but I think that was the point. He is given a chance over and over again to be better and make a better choice, and he doesn't. I also grew up in a poor neighborhood and I know people that still live there, and not because of a lack of opportunities or connections, they still have the same job etc. they're just stuck.
liam was 10 not a toddler. and frank was very active in his life. fiona and frank share custody of him
When Lip screws up college it broke my heart. In a way that I didn't fully recover as a fan.
I disagree i think the show was amazing form beginning to end except the ending was severely lacking and anti climactic.
I dont really see lips seemingly sudden drop in intelligence as bad writing. It COULD be but i think it makes a little sense seeing as how he spent so much of show not sober and he had to forget about school all together and just work a regular 9 to 5. After he got kicked out of school there really wasn't anything stimulating his brain so he really had no reason to use academic smarts in the later seasons.
Eddie Jackson is the most relatable character on this show. May he rest in peace.
I was considering rewatching this show, but I had forgotten how much grape it has. So thanks for saving me from that and also great video!!!!
If I remember right the original UK show was.much more bleaker. The two shows go off in different directions after the first season.
tbh i prefer seasons 5-8 over seasons 2-3 its not that i hate them but 5-8 just have the more interesting plotlines to me and ngl season 2 is lowkey boing season 4 is easily the best closely followed by season 1
One really good Carl scene you didn't talk about was when he was being robbed at the fast food place and he just had enough and went crazy on the guy after his gun discharged lol. Nonetheless loved the video. Thank you for keeping me entertained this morning lol
Can we talk about how Carl and lip are constantly done dirty with all his ships like some of these choices makes they make is weird Carl constantly getting cheated on is weird lip being self destructive makes sense but the milf relationship ain’t it bro and wait can we talk about the ship with the military girl man was seen as insecure for reason that were valid good gosh bro
I wish George Carlin were alive when this show aired. Can you imagine Louise Fletcher as Frank’s mom AND George as Frank’s dad?
I can see it! Love me some George.
literally currently going through my first ever watch of this show on season 7 right now and these have been some of my exact thoughts and feelings , great video!
i feel like binge watching vs watching in real time gave you a completely different experience. even tho it def got less interesting im glad they kept going.
Shameless is one of my favorite shows of all time. I watched it for the first time last year and I’ve never been so emotionally invested in a show before. It’s one of a kind and one of the best shows in television history. I love how all the characters are flawed as people, that neither are completely good or bad, they’re products of their environment and it causes them to be, as the name of the show is, shameless. At one point I ever completely loved or loathed the Gallagher kids because they have great and bad qualities that make them so compelling
It was too real for some of us. Shows how hard it can be to break that cycle.
Such an amazing video on my favorite show of all time. As someone who grew up with not a lot I relate to a lot of the characters in Shameless. Like fr Lips and Sierras storyline is so relatable to me rn.
This was my first video of yours and I really enjoyed it! I love video essays and retrospectives and you did a good job of discussing and summarizing this show! One recommendation is to turn the background music down a bit, I found it a little distracting. But overall, GREAT JOB!!
I'm glad this was recommended to me. Thank you for your recap and perspective! I subscribed after the first few minutes
Awesome ! Thankyou !
Lol after season 4 the realism was sacrificed for constant goofy comedy.
Peak Shameless was the episode Just Like the Pilgrims Intended, Season 2 episode 11. Peak
Fiona was the best and then Mickey and Ian love story then lip, then Frank, then Carl. The most interesting and fun to watch.
Keep up the good videos bro don’t ever stop
Good stuff man. Keep it up. 🍻
And Carl....made something blow up in for science class!
I’ve re-watched this show about 6-7 times within the last 2 years and one scene that always stuck with me is when Frank and Debbie go to the hippie camp, and When Debbie is put into labor, she immediately runs to frank and asks him if they can go home, at first Frank simply hits her with the “just thug it out” response, but then Debbie pleads with him “please dad I just wanna go home” and he doesn’t fight her on it, he doesn’t say something to retaliate or even try to make an argument on why they should stay, he just looks at her with full compassion and care and immediately drives her back to the Gallagher house.
The covid ending was such a cop out they should have just waited and ended the show properly
The way lip treats women was absolutely disgusting Amanda especially mandy and the professor lady can't remember her name but he really did mandy so dirty it actually pissed me off 😅
Her name was Helene.
This is the best retrospective of the show. Damn 🎉 would love to see you do additional shameless vids
Appreciate the love thankyou
Kevin with the pay it forward guy was the funniest scene in the series
Hey I'm #200! I hope to see your UA-cam channel grow
Thankyou so much !
I agree about season 7 I hated how much of an asshole lip was to Fiona after everything she did for them when she was struggling. It didn’t seem like him especially since he was also dealing with alcoholism. Fiona & Lip got Frank’s alcoholism & Ian got Monica’s bipolar. The last seasons are definitely trash & I found myself watching outta obligation to see how it ended like TWD & it was disappointing. Emmy left the show because they wouldn’t pay her what they were paying William H Macy who plays frank & I feel her she was the heart of the show & when she left they never recovered really.
Season 7 should’ve been the last season. That last scene where we see all the Gallagher’s have got their lives together was beautiful
I will always, always call him Jimmy Jack Steve
I do want to end the the show earlier but then we wont get Ian and Mickey’s wedding😭
Yeah them not ending up together at the end of season 7 would have been my only fault if the show ended at season 7 but at the same time I probably would have been okay with it since there breakup and goodbye was emotional and done pretty good if you ask me
@@MysticalFilmNerd maybe a 3 episode spin-off or a movie like Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad would suffice my thirst for gallavich content
I never finished shameless but finding out carl became a COP is so disappointing 🤢
I wanted it to end when the mom died something about that felt so final and the perfect reason to end
JIMMY STEVE IS NOT A GOOD GUY! I will die in this hill he could not handle the life Fiona had (literally compares living in her house living to living in slum) and expects her to run everything through him when he entered her life maybe a year or so ago. I think he’s a rich kid who wanted the exciting life but couldn’t handle the people that come with that. He constantly lies and in my opinion only wants to be with Fiona to feel like he living that “crazy” life.
They *do* live in a slum.
I literally cannot stand lip the most man.
Ian wasn't Frank's kid but Liam was lol
The thing that frustrates me about Lip is that in the end his arrogance was still there at the end of the show. This resulted to them having $70k rather than $200k for the house
And here I was thinking this show ended with season 5.
When I recently rewatched the show, I ended at season 7, bc personally, that´s the real ending
For me seasons 10 and 11 are my comfort seasons. Are they as dramatic and dark as seasons 1-5? No! But that’s the point. It’s fun! I had fun! It felt nice. No one will ever make me hate them. And I get the series finale. The show will always go on. Even if we don’t ever get to be on the road with any of them. But I’ll choose them over 8 and 9 easily.
Great video!! I would only point out that the background music could be a bit lower since it distracts from you talking. I’m definitely subscribing!
they all say the Gallagher thing a lot because all they know is supporting each other, now matter what.
I did enjoy alot of this show but it hit way too close to home since I had a father just like Frank
The fact that they let him keep coming around was insane
Awesome video! I love this show so much, even the “bad” clips you showed made me smile or laugh 🤣 If u perhaps enjoy horror, the movie Oculus directed by Mike Flanagan is underrated and REALLY good. (Its not very scary! I just think the acting, cinematography, direction, writing, ending etc. are all incredible.)
Boy seeing this doesn't give me any will to watch further than season 4 (when I stopped)
Tbf later seasons only fun character seems to be Carl, I mean his later antics was kinda what got me to try the show (UA-cam shorts) and I did enjoy the 1st 4 seasons, but when I watched season 5 epi 1 I felt off and i had it paused. Guess im done with it
I tend to notice that people who come from and were raised in a similar background tend to love the mid seasons just as much as the early ones while the people who grew up privileged with healthy family dynamics like early seasons, especially 4, while just tolerating the mid to late ones and I think it’s because in seasons 5 through 7, the Gallaghers don’t go through as much trauma and tribulations as they did in seasons 2-4 so to those from better upbringings, it comes off as boring because seeing the struggles of the Gallaghers is merely entertainment to them while for those of us from a harsher background, those darker seasons/moments are an unfortunate part of our realities we don’t wanna see when watching television. To this day, I’ve only watched season 4 ONCE, it’s just too traumatising
This is such an interesting take honestly.
I’m halfway through the video and im loving it *likes and subscribes*
my opinion was that it was really fucked up for fiona to leave, she fought for guardianship of her siblings only to abandon them while one was still a minor
fiona and frank shared custody and he was very active in liam’s life when fiona left
I'm just about to start S4 with my fiancee that has never seen the show. Watching the Frank S4 clips in this really hits hard, and idk if I'm ready to watch that again-even for the fourth or fifth time now. Gosh, she isn't going to see ANYTHING this season coming... Such a realistic and upsetting season, but such quality TV.
The scene where Karen gets Mandy'd in S3 blew her mind 😂
I never watched the seasons after Fiona left, but we'll see how that goes this time, cause we finished all 7 seasons of True Blood and that show goes downhill a lot worse and sooner (but a lot differently).
30:25 ah, yes. The famous ocean outside of definitely coastal Chicago.
The problem you seem to have is that you didn't know this is a remake from the show in the UK. If you would've known that then you realize the writers here were kind of stick between a rock and a hard place with a lot of the storylines.
You literally underrated
*You are, and you don't need the word 'literally'.
I have always wanted to watch this show but just couldn’t get around to it
I hated Fiona because she consistently sabotaged her own and others lives and refused to take the blame. Cheated on multiple partners, endangered a baby with hard drugs and so much more. Trauma is not an excuse for being a terrible person, might be a reason but not an excuse, she is a terrible person and sister
I recommend you watch the og UK version of Shameless (I watched it on Tubi) there are some similarities they have to the US counterparts but it goes in a pretty different direction. And the focus slowly shifts from the Gallaghers to the Maguires/others in general. Has 11 seasons as well! I'd be interested in a video if you ended up watching it and wanted to give it a retrospective video one day
It is also a bit darker than the US version if I remember right. I saw some of the show back in the day when they had BBC on American cable with East Enders and Shameless.
@@stephennootens916 I've never actually watched the US version but from what I've seen, the UK version is definitely darker and more raunchy
Lip should’ve own his business honestly also the whole plot of his girl leaving cuz he doesn’t wanna go to Wisconsin for logical reasons was dumb but I get the conclusion of character and it makes sense also wish he able to adopt z
i died a lil when this show came to a done
36:37 Kevin quickly turned into Van from Reba lol
Does everyone just ignore how Fiona literally abandons her responsibility as a guardian to Deb Carl and Liam since they werent 18 when she left.
you missed the part where Deb randomly turns gay for no reason.
I feel like it actually makes the show better that most of the characters end up not seriously evolving it’s realistic everyone I’ve know from these types of families are exactly like this the cliché of the genius son throwing everything away with alcohol is a real epidemic that America faces we have a never ending list of geniuses in AA that just can’t pull themselves together
I think I stopped watching when Debbie became a mom. Like that's when I caught up
i very much enjoyed shameless up until s11. s11 was trash imo, complete waste of time and so much bad writing/character assassination. my 2 favorite characters are lip and mickey, and they’ll probably always be. shameless was always a good watch, especially in the beginning. later on i mostly watched for the comedy aspect and gallavich. i hate the way it ended but it’s one of the best tv shows from the 10s