"JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS" - Part of the DC Animated Universe? | Will It Canon?

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  • @TheCrossSoldier
    @TheCrossSoldier 5 років тому +216

    Thank you for this content! It's funny and informative! I already knew that while the original intention was for it to be in the DCAU, things changed and the end product while having multiple similarities was still just too inconsistent to fit into canon. By the way, what else will this "Will It Canon?" series cover? This video shows Justice League Doom, and I remember you guys replying to me in a comment that another subject was the Teen Titans, but any other cartoon series or DTV movies? Otherwise the only other things left would be comics and video game tie-ins.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +24

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. "Will It Canon?" will be covering a wide range of DC media, from movies to comics to games to books, all sorts of stuff. We'll be going over each DCAU tie-in comic series separately.

    • @raphaelgarcia8266
      @raphaelgarcia8266 5 років тому +2

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 YES! Please all those you mentioned including Legion of Superheroes

    • @adonis7626
      @adonis7626 4 роки тому +3

      Dragon Tiger Sword Maybe Justice League Doom/Tower Of Babel has happened in the DC Animated Universe, in 2009...
      Yes, Ras Al Ghul who neutralized the Justice League and near the world is, for me, the Near Apocalypse of 0’9.

    • @TheCrossSoldier
      @TheCrossSoldier 4 роки тому +2

      @@adonis7626 That's something that sounds quite plausible for explaining what the Near Apocalypse of '09 was. I've seen other fans make that same suggestion as well.

    • @door-kun721
      @door-kun721 3 роки тому

      @@dcauwatchtower Wait, since Hal is a DCAU thing thanks to Vs. Fatal Five, could this be reconsidered? Since that was the sticking point?

  • @kangdide
    @kangdide 5 років тому +550

    Now I have a real question WHEN DOES SUPEEMAN 64 TAKEPLACE

    • @Gsmooth84
      @Gsmooth84 5 років тому +67

      Also, Batman Vengeance, and Rise of Sin Tzu

    • @ColdFuse96
      @ColdFuse96 5 років тому +131

      Superman 64 was basically a dream that Lex Luther had when he tried snorting kryptonite dust like if it was crack cocaine. The resulting effect knocked him out and put him in a special kind of high that kryptonian hippies usually went into, but it was too much for his human mind, and the after shock left him so insane that he went and made a memory extractor just to pull that dream out of his head and into a nearby Nintendo 64 game cartridge. That's when he got the brilliant idea to try to sell copies of it and make millions off of it, and that's how it came to be.

    • @sbentsen2714
      @sbentsen2714 5 років тому +8

      Kangdide it was a bad dream

    • @justice_productions_
      @justice_productions_ 5 років тому +8

      I want the Answer to this now for real

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 5 років тому +19

      In the Sonic '06 timeline, obviously. The obsession with collecting rings makes it obvious.

  • @HunterX05
    @HunterX05 5 років тому +262

    *IT'S LEX FLIPPIN' LUTHOR!*

    • @joey9826
      @joey9826 4 роки тому +15

      iT’s LeX fLiPpIn’ LuThOr

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 роки тому +2

      Actually yeah

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Рік тому +1

      Gotta keep the PG rating, you know. Still, at least it's not Star Wars, which nowadays uses made up swears like "Karabast!" or real ones like... nah, I'm not gonna say the word.

    • @HunterX05
      @HunterX05 Рік тому +2

      @@michaelandreipalon359 fictional swears have been a thing in Star Wars for a while, like pre-Disney era(thank you Legends material and SW:TCW)

  • @bigphil2695
    @bigphil2695 5 років тому +221

    There are two ways I like to put this in my head canon.
    1: This is a mirror of something that happened in the DCAU timeline. Since there are infinite possibilities there will be other crime syndicate earths.
    2: The DCAU was looked at by luthor, but since that league was down a Watch Tower and just got done with the Thanagarians he didn't think they were up to it.

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 роки тому +3

      I know it's two years old but I was thinking these guys are from the same same crime syndicate earth we saw from DCAU but more or less the west coast version of the crime syndicate a smaller branch on the same group that rose to power after the main team was defeated.
      Hal Jordan took John's place because he had some inter planetary stuff to do for a few days and hal who is another rooky to take his place on earth while he's away

    • @bigphil2695
      @bigphil2695 3 роки тому +5

      @@Gundam_JAY Hal Jordan didn't become a lantern in the DCAU. The ring that was supposed to be his went to Kyle Reiner. The only time Hal appears in the flesh is during an episode about alternating timelines.

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 3 роки тому +12

      @@bigphil2695 He has a statue in Fatal Five, so he does *eventually* become a GL.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku 2 роки тому +4

      @@Gundam_JAY we never saw a crime syndicate in the dcau.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      ​@@driveasandwich6734Maybe Hal is Earth's Killowog

  • @JacobyJ56
    @JacobyJ56 5 років тому +227

    I think my favorite part about this movie is James Woods as Owl man

    • @TrumbullComic
      @TrumbullComic 5 років тому +6

      Yeah, he had a great performance!

    • @juliancornejo1402
      @juliancornejo1402 5 років тому +11

      Worst part was the other other Baldwin’s Batman

    • @j.graves4405
      @j.graves4405 4 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 роки тому +2

      My favorite part is when batman leaves him to die

    • @Sanscripter
      @Sanscripter 2 роки тому

      "Doesn't matter" super epic

  • @thelittlepasty8360
    @thelittlepasty8360 5 років тому +171

    *It’s Lex flipping Luthor*

    • @trod146
      @trod146 4 роки тому

      When multiple people copy the same comment trying to get attention and beg for top comment...

    • @thelittlepasty8360
      @thelittlepasty8360 4 роки тому +1

      Timothy Trex3 bruh I just saw it in the video and thought it was funny chill lmao

  • @GrimDrago
    @GrimDrago 5 років тому +140

    One day I would like to see a "Will it canon?" outside of DCAU like Dragon Ball or Scooby Doo or whatever

    • @Blurns
      @Blurns 5 років тому +7

      Is Scooby Doo Canon?

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 5 років тому +4

      Why not go full crazy and do it for the 90s X-Men cartoon or Freakazoid!

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 роки тому +4

      Scooby-Doo is definitely cannon

    • @RustyNips
      @RustyNips Рік тому +3

      I wanna know how batman fits into the scooby universe I mean scooby has met different versions of batman and even met krypto recently even if they try to write off that movie it still exists

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Рік тому +1

      "Is Teen Titans in the Same Universe as The Batman 2004 Cartoon?" could be interesting.

  • @macoy3943
    @macoy3943 5 років тому +29

    I was waiting for Aquaman to respond “That remains to be seen!” But he never did

  • @AkuTheDestroyer
    @AkuTheDestroyer 5 років тому +85

    I always considered this and Doom as part of the Young Justice cannon. Given, it's probably the art style, but it fits pretty damn well, since we never see before the YJ forming.

    • @maximusprime3459
      @maximusprime3459 3 роки тому +14

      True. I remember bringing that up on the old IMDb forum and everyone swore it wasn't. Although I think "Doom" is definitely in Young Justice continuity because the Flash in that movie is Barry instead of Wally despite being voiced by Michael Rosenbaum.

    • @fumeking701
      @fumeking701 2 роки тому +1

      I always thought that too

    • @caliph95
      @caliph95 2 роки тому +6

      Problem with Doom is that Vandal Savage in that movie is a different character than YJ Vandal

    • @JoelPerry1
      @JoelPerry1 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@caliph95 Also Cyborg

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku 2 роки тому +1

      @@caliph95 just say that was either a clone or a son named vandal savage jr.

  • @propheci
    @propheci 5 років тому +35

    Not canon to the dcau, but it's a damn good movie. And it's decent enough to be dcau "ajacent".

  • @bashfulbreloom9294
    @bashfulbreloom9294 8 місяців тому +9

    Its kinda funny to imagine that John took a break after Starcrossed and Hal took over for a bit and immediately got send to the shadow realm when John came back.

    • @LucLightWolf121
      @LucLightWolf121 7 місяців тому +2

      That's what I am thinking. Plus Martian Manhunter showing Staro could be interpreted as one of their first unrecorded missions in the DCAU. Remember that the Justice League were coming back from an unaired mission when the events of "The Savage Time" occurred. It's not that hard to reconcile "Crisis On Two Earths" and "Doom" with the rest of the Justice League/JLU continuity. Also, this might also be a contingency plan simulation run by Batman soon after the events of "Star Crossed".

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      Maybe Hal himself said man go breath since the Guardians allowed

  • @PGBQW
    @PGBQW 5 років тому +86

    "It doesn't matter."

    • @m3rl1on
      @m3rl1on 5 років тому +7

      nothing matters.

    • @m3rl1on
      @m3rl1on 4 роки тому +2

      @woooudo tell that to owlman.

  • @joaquinjfernandez1528
    @joaquinjfernandez1528 5 років тому +18

    I think it is in the young justice continuity because of the character designs

    • @maximusprime3459
      @maximusprime3459 3 роки тому

      Yeah, it does look like the same character designs.

    • @onyxt3589
      @onyxt3589 3 роки тому +2

      Justice League Doom seems to be it's sequel.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      ​@@onyxt3589Yeah appears to be

  • @DreamcastFarm
    @DreamcastFarm Рік тому +11

    Owl Man being the final villain, and Batman facing him at the end thematically would've fit the DCAU sooooo well

  • @TrumbullComic
    @TrumbullComic 5 років тому +30

    I came to pretty much the same conclusion that you did. Something very much like CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS happened in the DCAU, but not exactly like it. But I consider the explanations for the expanded League membership, the new Watchtower with the JL teleporter, and Wonder Woman's invisible jet to be more or less what happened in the world of the JLU. I list it in my DCAU Timeline under the original title, WORLDS COLLIDE.

  • @clockstomper
    @clockstomper 5 років тому +29

    Another funny line I like in the movie is "Johnny, stop vibrating!" Although I gotta say when Batman tells Owlman "You blinked" that's such a Conroy line. Woulda been so awesome to hear him say it. Or hear Hamil play the hero version of the Joker.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +12

      Agreed, the Batman monologue at the end would be awesome to hear Conroy speak.

    • @clockstomper
      @clockstomper 5 років тому +3

      Oh, also, I kind of head cannon this movie into the Young Justice Universe. Since that show starts with an established league that we know little about (and uses the same character artist, like you said.)

    • @helixsol7171
      @helixsol7171 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@clockstomper
      A lot of the designs are straight up ripped directly from the movie. Black Lightning appeared in season 2 with the exact same design as in this movie, for example.

  • @Emohawk707
    @Emohawk707 4 роки тому +9

    The way I look at it, Crisis on Two earths probably did happen in the DCAU, but in that universe it happened slightly differently.
    I consider every property that DC puts out to be within their multiverse, but I reckon Crisis on Two earths is very close to the DCAU and Earth 12 on the multiverse map

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 5 років тому +21

    The biggest thing that blew my mind is that a video store stills exists

  • @edlb10
    @edlb10 5 років тому +61

    i care about zeta project

    • @DwRockett
      @DwRockett 4 роки тому +2

      914ThePro genuine question what is the Zeta Project and how does it fit into the DCAU

    • @abiodunsulaiman2297
      @abiodunsulaiman2297 4 роки тому

      Why

  • @toffeefeathers
    @toffeefeathers 5 років тому +37

    I actually really enjoy this movie, many of the “separate” DC animated movies hold a special place in my heart, I enjoy watching them every once and a while, especially this one and JL: Doom

    • @Coolsomeone234
      @Coolsomeone234 3 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku 2 роки тому +3

      legit better than the new 52 movies.
      I really wish they used this artstyle for those movies.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Рік тому

      Shame they peaked at The Flashpoint Paradox. A lot of the movies released after it just don't give the right amount of justice for some reason.

    • @toffeefeathers
      @toffeefeathers Рік тому

      @@michaelandreipalon359 idk I really enjoyed JL: War and JL vs Teen Titans, Apokolips War was fun but only because they made it so over the top

  • @spacepenguins8939
    @spacepenguins8939 5 років тому +15

    It’s Lex *Flipping* Luthor

  • @Gsmooth84
    @Gsmooth84 5 років тому +8

    When I first heard James Woods as Owlman, I was blown away by his performance. Makes me wish it was Woods and Conroy going at it as Owlman vs Batman. Josh Keaton and Gina Torres are also one of my favorites.

  • @SpencerN.C.
    @SpencerN.C. 5 років тому +46

    So glad you guys are back.
    Not getting my dose of DCAU nerdiness is hard...

  • @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
    @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix 5 років тому +114

    Everything is canon as long as there are alternate universes.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +39

      That’s...not the point.

    • @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
      @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix 5 років тому +23

      @@dcauwatchtower I know... Wishful thinking on my part.

    • @dyltack5349
      @dyltack5349 5 років тому +2

      Watchtower Database this video has a problem now

    • @alexsimpson284
      @alexsimpson284 4 роки тому +3

      @@dcauwatchtower Not if convergence has anything to say about it

    • @AceTheCap823
      @AceTheCap823 2 роки тому +2

      @@alexsimpson284 could you explain convergence to me?? To this day I’m still confused by it

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 3 роки тому +9

    I like to think that the Hal Jordan that popped up in the DCAU from an alternate timeline was the one from here. Not sure if that works, but I like it. (Which now makes me wish he looked like the one from Superfriends)

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      Makes sense considering Owlman and his comments

  • @milesarmstrong2990
    @milesarmstrong2990 5 років тому +32

    As a thought experiment, it would be interesting to imagine if 'Crisis on two worlds' was made as and aired before JLU season 1. How would the story lines in the movie change aspects of the Unlimited Show. The first thing that comes to my mind is the arc of the Question and that he would not have the certainty that 'Luthor is Luthor in any world' because he would know better because of this movie. Another method of coming to the confrontation in Luthor's office would need to be established. Perhaps an episode where the Question brakes League protocol and contacts the Questions from the Lords world, and the Crisis world (in a Silence of Lambs locked up style). With our Question coming to the same conclusion of sacrificing himself to End Luthor with the logic "good, bad or raving mad - a Luthor will change the world." That would be just one way episodes would need to change to accommodate the original release plan.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      Or an evil Question

  • @LibraGamesUnlimited
    @LibraGamesUnlimited 5 років тому +8

    Maybe, in that world Hal is John's back up instead of the other way around. John needed time off, Kyle was on Oa so they picked Hal.

  • @macoy3943
    @macoy3943 5 років тому +17

    Dc should make the original Worlds Collide into an animated movie

  • @dcauwatchtower
    @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +47

    Hey, everyone! Trying out this "premiere" feature. Stay tuned for the video on Sunday! (P.S. Enjoy staring at Superman's misaligned mouth(s) for a while.)

    • @unchallengedmediocrity7886
      @unchallengedmediocrity7886 5 років тому

      Considering the films you choose for this series, you should rename it "Why it ain't Canon".
      Edit: This comment is pretty dated in a post-Fatal Five world.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +3

      Unchallenged Mediocrity - Ha! Just going down the list of stuff everybody clambers for. What would you like to see us put under the canonicity microscope?

    • @unchallengedmediocrity7886
      @unchallengedmediocrity7886 5 років тому +1

      Perhaps the 2009 Wonder Woman? 😏

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +3

      Unchallenged Mediocrity - You just wanting to perpetuate the show’s stereotype? 😉

    • @unchallengedmediocrity7886
      @unchallengedmediocrity7886 5 років тому

      I'm just trying to keep the creative juice flowing! 😁

  • @ProjektTaku
    @ProjektTaku 2 роки тому +8

    I always interpreted this movie as an alt world that parallel's something that happened in the dcau timeline, and gave us a (altered) glimpse into it.
    And I like to think this is connected to YJ.

  • @fabiofarrooficial
    @fabiofarrooficial 5 років тому +3

    I believe that the DCAU version actually happened, but off-screen. Unfortunately, we will never see this version because it would not make sense to make another movie with the same plot. Or they could do and launch a new trend: Reboots of animated movies.

  • @BartholomewHenryAllen
    @BartholomewHenryAllen 5 років тому +13

    If it where up to me, I'd just make it so that Hal and John Stewart end up having to partner up to save Hal's original partner, Kilowog, from an anti-alien taskforce, because Guy Gardner would've been their any other option for a human secret Green Lantern operative, and they both hate him because of how obnoxious he is (in a Lethal Weapon type of story).
    Personally, I just don't mind that John Stewart was the Green Lantern of the Timverse instead of Hal Jordan (Same goes for the odd Wally West name change). I get why they did that, and I actually ended up liking John Stewart; however, I still very much prefer Hal Jordan as the real Green Lantern, and I would still prefer for him to be put into the spotlight much more often.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 3 роки тому

      I had the idea that Crisis on 2 Earths was not tied since John didn't appear.

  • @Custerd1
    @Custerd1 5 років тому +9

    Clancy Brown: “BURN!”

  • @_FRIS_
    @_FRIS_ 5 років тому +5

    One way i've always interpreted this movie is that similar events that took place in this universe also took place in the main dcau timeline, we just never saw them. Like this basically gave us a similar look into those events, albeit a bit of a different version of those. I think given all the things that line up with this, its safe to assume some sort of adventure like this (and potentially justice league doom) had happened to the main timeline, just out of our view

  • @bannie6151
    @bannie6151 Рік тому +4

    I always saw this film as being up to the audience on whether or not it’s canon, somethings fit perfectly while others are completely different.

  • @icedteaman5862
    @icedteaman5862 4 роки тому +5

    This is one of my favorite will it canons, if you did make one on justice league doom I’d 100% watch it!

  • @infinityalbi9840
    @infinityalbi9840 5 років тому +2

    I absolutely adore Phil Barassa's art style!

  • @lssjgaming1599
    @lssjgaming1599 5 років тому +10

    This has been bugging me that it was in the channel but I couldn’t watch until today. I’m so excited to see the video finally. It was good. Not dissapoint

  • @bmvthemoviefanatic7282
    @bmvthemoviefanatic7282 3 роки тому +4

    It's not canon, 100%, however, it is fun to see how it would have bridged the gap between JL and JLU. We see the introduction of the invisible jet, the new Watchtower in production, and even the genesis of the idea for expanding the League, all things likely unchanged from the original script. It's probably best it isn't canon, though, as it works REALLY well on its own, and it might have been a bit derivative of "A Better World" from JL. Still fun to view it with the knowledge it was gonna be in the DCAU.
    Side Note: While watching it, was trying to figure out if Hal Jordan replaced John Stewart, then who replaced Hawkgirl in the script. Then I realized why she wasn't in it in the first place and broke my heart all over again. Honestly would have been interesting to see the League dealing with the aftermath of Starcrossed, honestly. That's the biggest advantage "Crisis On Two Earths" could have had in being set in the DCAU.

    • @LeoMes01
      @LeoMes01 Рік тому

      If a better world was another episode entitely than this film would've been made.
      Mayne that would be the starro or despero episode

  • @mvdwraptor7983
    @mvdwraptor7983 5 років тому +13

    a few things: YOUREE BACCCKK!!! need these videos. I need to here people talk about the dcau.
    Would it be possible to to will it canons for non dcau media? Example would be such as under the red hood fitting into young justice
    lastly: Public enemies?

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 6 місяців тому

      Public Enemies and Darkseid Movie

  • @orima3507
    @orima3507 4 роки тому +5

    9:54 BURN

  • @ooogelato
    @ooogelato 3 роки тому +4

    It’s cool asf to imagine dcau Batman fighting owl man and sending him off like that

  • @StarGazer0352
    @StarGazer0352 5 років тому +6

    Glad you guys are back. You inspired me to timeline my favorite cartoon (Steven Universe). It's arguably easier to timeline one show than eight, but it has its moments of hair pulling. Happy to have you back, keep making great content, because I love you...in a strictly platonic way

    • @StarGazer0352
      @StarGazer0352 5 років тому +2

      Comics, video games, crossovers, plus an upcoming movie. It's harder than I originally thought. I admire the amount of hard work you guys put in. Steven Universe is only 5 years old. The DCAU spans 1992-2017

    • @StarGazer0352
      @StarGazer0352 5 років тому +1

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 it's a great show. I highly recommend it. And thanks! I actually have been contemplating for a little while about whether or not to start doing UA-cam. I really appreciate the support

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Рік тому

      The Light games of SU sure are an interesting bunch to look at.

  • @hobbitronic
    @hobbitronic 3 роки тому +3

    It would be great if there was a throwback reference to superman having a mullet in the Timmverse, just explained away with "it was the early 90's, people thought leifeld was cool, leave my hair out of it!". We don't get enough defensive superman

  • @AirCanMaster
    @AirCanMaster 5 років тому +2

    Something that makes this particular installment interesting is that it was actually developed as a transition from JL to JLU (I think you mentioned that, idunno been a while). So it's interesting to wonder how they ended up deciding to put all the disqualifying changes in.

  • @EmperorSteele
    @EmperorSteele 5 років тому +2

    My thoughts on this movie are pretty much like you said near the end: Something -like it- happened. Then again, the "something like it" seemed to wind up being the Justice Lords arc, iirc, and two "alternate and evil teams" stories back to back woulda been kinda ridiculous.

  • @NoVideosFound0
    @NoVideosFound0 5 років тому +2

    I don't know how or why this is only the first video of this series that I've watched, but now I've gotta check out the last one, and I'm looking forward to future episodes of this, and all the other videos in general! I say this every time you make a video, but each one just reminds me how much I love the DCAU, and this channel. Keep up the Bat-tastic work!
    Also, man, the design for the Imperiums in JL are cool, sorta generic, and weird at the same time!
    ;)
    -You called them "Imperiums" at 14:17.

    • @NoVideosFound0
      @NoVideosFound0 5 років тому

      @@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Oooh, sounded like he said "Imperium soldiers".

  • @djmaydraws3862
    @djmaydraws3862 5 років тому +5

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but they called Flash “Barry” in this movie, in the JL show, the only Flash was Wally and he was given Barry’s origin, ergo there is no Barry Allen in the DCAU but there is in the movie, thus not canon. But I could be wrong

  • @markdarc0448
    @markdarc0448 5 років тому +11

    What did you say about zeta project it’s my fave lol

  • @patrickmarcottte4449
    @patrickmarcottte4449 3 роки тому +1

    I love them bringing back the Flash voice actor from Superman the animated series !

  • @ShaggyRogers20
    @ShaggyRogers20 Рік тому +3

    In Crisis On 2 Earths The Flash is Wally West but in Justice League Doom The Flash is Barry Allen WHAT!

  • @dtfilmmaker
    @dtfilmmaker 5 років тому +8

    This was perfect 15:10 👌

  • @johnrau2265
    @johnrau2265 3 роки тому +3

    It seems this could/should have been canon. However, WB took great care (for whatever dumb reason) to be certain it was NOT.
    Looking back to the source material, I felt the first couple "Crisis" stories [Two Earths & Three Earths], back before it became a stunt "event" were good. It gave a chance to bring in seldom-seen characters and new twists on established ones (Hero Lex!) without warping continuity with "dream" or "imaginary" stories.
    Transferring that from its comics roots into an almost-DCAU movie seems appropriate; since they weren't able to place it as a bridge between JL and JLU as planned.

  • @ComicCrash
    @ComicCrash 5 років тому +1

    I’m pretty excited for your guys’s thoughts on this one. I loved the last “canon” episode you did on Brainiac Attacks.

  • @EmmanuelMarin07
    @EmmanuelMarin07 5 років тому +3

    (Nov. 23, 2018) Calling it now, this'll be awesome.

  • @dtfilmmaker
    @dtfilmmaker 5 років тому +2

    (11/23) Can't wait any longer @Watchtower Database. The suspense is killing me. I bet it's gonna be an epic video covering my favorite animated universe of all time with one my fav DCU original films. What a great deal you're giving us

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 5 років тому

      Favourite animated universe? What other animated universe is there that can compete?

    • @dtfilmmaker
      @dtfilmmaker 5 років тому

      @@probot6515 There is the 90s Marvel shows, but we both know that doesn't compete at all

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 5 років тому

      @@dtfilmmaker those arent even really connected. Release order doesnt work for those so it would be really difficult to make a timeline for those. The X-Men, Spider-Man and X-Men 90s series comics are a shared universe. Iron Man, Fantastic Four and The Incredible Hulk is a shared universe. Thats what marvel wiki says anyway.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому +1

      Don’t tell us it’ll be difficult to make a timeline...don’t use that reverse psychology...

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 5 років тому

      @@dcauwatchtower that wasn't my intention... hehe

  • @Deception975
    @Deception975 5 років тому +1

    On the other Earth, instead of Billy getting the powers from the Wizard, it is Mary. She isn't a Kryptonian, she is just the human sister of Billy.

  • @KertaDrake
    @KertaDrake 5 років тому +1

    I would simply leave it at if it were canon, it would be reaaaaally redundant to have both this movie and the Justice Lords in the same continuity. People would have just spent all their time calling it out if it came out back when it was originally intended as it would have been a lot less time between the two. That extra time gap really helped distance it from direct comparison and let it stand on it's own.

  • @rolo3468
    @rolo3468 5 років тому +4

    Oh how I've missed these videos

  • @jujudisasters
    @jujudisasters 5 років тому

    I feel like "a very close but slightly different universe" explanation fits the best with this movie since you know, multiple universes being the main plot

  • @thomaswelbourn55
    @thomaswelbourn55 5 років тому +3

    Really looking forward to this, though I don't think it will, I will enjoy listening as always

  • @Go0dTimes4fUnPro
    @Go0dTimes4fUnPro 5 років тому +1

    I always thought that Hal Jordan was in deep space somewhere else in the universe during the justice league series.

  • @Tyler_W
    @Tyler_W 4 роки тому +6

    I loved this movie. It was pretty cool, and I liked seeing Hal. I especially love the art style. They basically use it with a little less detail in Young Justice. I really like the Bruce Timm universe art style, but the style of this movie, Justice League: Doom, and Young Justice is my absolute favorite. On a side note, I like to thank that the criminally underrated Green Lantern: The Animated Series, which had the awful misfortune of debuting not long after the Green Lantern film in 2011, is within the DCAU continuity. I swear, it looks like it has the exact same art style, just in 3D animation instead of the traditional 2D. It introduces the Red Lanterns and all of their prominent members like Atrocitus, Mogo, the Blue Lantern Saint Walker, and a whole lot of other awesome stuff. I think it even uses the Orange Lantern Larfleeze. I don't think any of it conflicts with anything in DCAU continuity, because 99.99% of it is in far off space. It's certainly good enough to count itself in the DCAU.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  4 роки тому +4

      It’s on our list to take a look at! But yeah it’s 100% Bruce Timm style.

  • @ManuDGraf
    @ManuDGraf 5 років тому +3

    "Superman Doomsday" will it canon?
    Good video guys

    • @InfernoBlade64
      @InfernoBlade64 5 років тому

      _ Manu _ nah Luthor never killed mercy Superman sealed doomsday in phantom zone because he was an unkillable Superman Cadmus clone and toy man is completely different

    • @kingofthegundam7974
      @kingofthegundam7974 4 роки тому

      @@InfernoBlade64 Maybe the movie happened in a timeline where the Justice Lords didn't show up, considering at the point they did Doomsday was attacking.

  • @ryanfox4462
    @ryanfox4462 4 дні тому

    Now that the og script has been released, we gotta get a sequel to this video!

  • @RandomJayne
    @RandomJayne Рік тому +4

    I think the writers of Young Justice once said that the Green Lantern show as "canon adjacent" to their show in the sense that while they were originally created as separate properties the YJ crew liked the GL show and wanted to continue plot threads that had been left hanging so they just decided that even if they take place in different universes the events of the GL show more or less happened in YJ as well. Kinda like how the Justice Lords universe is almost identical to the main Timmverse up to a certain point before Lex became president and murdered the Flash. For Crisis on Two Earths I just assume that everything that happened in that movie also happened in broad strokes within the Timmverse. In the Timmverse John Stewart and Wally West took the place of Hal Jordan and Barry Allen, Aquaman had a hook hand, and the other heroes Batman summoned were different people, but Wonder Woman still obtained her jet from this adventure. The main Lex was out and about instead of in prison and people had different reactions to the mirror universe Lex's arrival, but Batman still tricked the mirror Flash into aging himself to death because he couldn't bear to let his Flash go through with it after seeing what he became in the universe where Flash died.

  • @R_eagan
    @R_eagan 5 років тому +1

    Yay! You guys are back. I can’t wait for more.

  • @josephbrown6906
    @josephbrown6906 3 роки тому +2

    For me, Crisis on Two Earths is canon, but not continuity. So, in other words, it takes place in an alternate universe like Justice Lords or Justice Guild. However, I would also say that a version of the events of the film did happen in continuity as well. So while the film itself isn't continuity because of two many details being different, something very much the events in it did happen in continuity.

  • @maxalaintwo3578
    @maxalaintwo3578 4 роки тому +3

    1:09 I care, sir
    I CARE

  • @worlds1ep3enthusiast92
    @worlds1ep3enthusiast92 5 років тому

    It makes sense in the DCAU continuity. It takes place between JL and JLU. Hawkgirl is gone. A new Watchtower is under construction. John Stewart probably is taking time off to heal, so the League hired Hal Jordan to be his temporary replacement.

  • @omenakev1077
    @omenakev1077 11 місяців тому +1

    What if the Worlds collide film would’ve ended the Timmverse the nice way?

  • @MegasPlayer
    @MegasPlayer 8 місяців тому

    We also got some JLU style Crime Syndicate figures back then, it also include a John Stewart's Power Ring. I don't have any sources that can confirm this but they might be scrapped designs for what they would look like in the orginal movie idea

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  8 місяців тому

      They're not 😁 But I do like those figures!

  • @edouardpomerleau4087
    @edouardpomerleau4087 5 років тому +5

    I think JL doom is part of the young justice universe. Maybe!

    • @theepoopydoodoo
      @theepoopydoodoo 5 років тому +2

      I have a theory that Crisis on Two Earths, Justice League Doom, Flashpoint Paradox and the further DCAM are all in the same universe. Excluding one offs and story specific adaptions (ex. Superman vs the Elite, Batman The Dark Knight Pt. 1 & 2, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Gotham By Gaslight etc.)

    • @edouardpomerleau4087
      @edouardpomerleau4087 5 років тому

      JigglyChocolateman Possible

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 5 років тому

      According to www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php
      Jonathan Samuel Kent Son of Superman writes...
      Hello good day
      I have a question
      The animated films Justice League : Doom and Justice League : Crisis on Two Earths
      Happen in the universe of Young Justice ie are they canon for young justice ? That's all greetings and sorry for my english is not my first language
      Greg responds...
      No.
      Here's a list of the complete YJ Canon:
      YOUNG JUSTICE (Season One) - 26 episodes (101-126)
      YOUNG JUSTICE : INVASION (Season Two ) - 20 episodes (201-220)
      YOUNG JUSTICE LEGACY video game - including Red Arrow's journal
      YOUNG JUSTICE compantion comic book series - 27 issues (0-25 plus a free comic book day story)
      --All of those issues (except for the free comic book day issue) have been collected in four trade paperbacks:
      --* YOUNG JUSTICE , VOLUME ONE (collects 0-6)
      --* YOUNG JUSTICE , VOLUME TWO : TRAINING DAY (collects 7-13)
      --* YOUNG JUSTICE , VOLUME THREE: CREATURE FEATURES (collects 14-19)
      --* YOUNG JUSTICE , VOLUME FOUR: INVASION (collects 20-25)
      That's it. Period. Nothing else is canon to our series until Season Three (i.e. YOUNG JUSTICE : OUTSIDERS) hits the air (or until we get more comics).
      So unfortunately no.

  • @BovineDesigns
    @BovineDesigns 3 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing this movie at a Safeway DVD rental. Remember those? Me either!

  • @hojagiselleyyo
    @hojagiselleyyo Рік тому

    5:32 green lantern 3d series is part of tim verse as well as the verse of young justice separately

  • @ESTComicsEvolutions
    @ESTComicsEvolutions 5 років тому +9

    OMG OMG I've been waiting for this since it was announced.

  • @lieutenantkettch
    @lieutenantkettch 5 років тому +1

    My take is that a version of the story definitely took place between JL and JLU.

  • @joeltbb
    @joeltbb 4 роки тому

    Hope one day we get to see the original DCAU-in script of this movie

  • @SFCmrRaccoon
    @SFCmrRaccoon 19 днів тому

    Can't Wait For The Update With The Leaked Script

  • @Christopherianmatt
    @Christopherianmatt 5 місяців тому

    I look it at this the same way I look at the Schumacher Batman films, which were very clearly produced as sequels and came out at time when parallel universes wasn't so familiar to us, but now I see them as being in a separate universe where things are mildly different, *but predicated on two Schumacherverse films that we didn't see but share the main plot points with the first two films of the Burtonverse. Similarly, Batman the Animated Series was intended to follow up on the Burtonverse, but it just would not be practical or enjoyable for the series to keep Joker and Penguin dead, so you have to imagine some of these events happening in a bunch of different universes with subtle differences. Harvey Dent had a very different personality, but he still became the Two Face. This manner of looking at things makes the question of canonicity obsolete (though it can still be fun to talk about and speculate), as the timelines are occurring in their respective universes, and it only corrects the inappropriate assumption we tend to make that nothing can be thought to have existed or occurred if we did not explicitly see it on screen. In reality, each of us humans is in our own universe in our minds, as all the events play out through the filters of our values, biases and perspectives and are recalled through an imperfect and often actually false memory. So when someone delivers a piece of exposition, take it with a grain of salt rather than as gospel, because all you really know is they said it, not that they are a reliable witness, or that they have their facts straight or that they are honest.

  • @ZoomReverseFlash
    @ZoomReverseFlash Рік тому +1

    Considering "Justice League vs. The Fatal Five" the point about Hal Jordan may not be as important now.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  Рік тому +1

      Yep, this video is decently old. Check out our “Will It Canon?” on JLvsF5!

    • @ZoomReverseFlash
      @ZoomReverseFlash Рік тому

      @@dcauwatchtower Thank you for the reply!

  • @dymoure
    @dymoure 5 років тому +1

    I feel Crisis on Two Earths is as cannon as Batman: Arkham Asylum (that would be a cool Will It Cannon? episode). It ties more into Justice League: Doom (and maybe some other movies). But like you said, if you squint, you could see how it fits. I think it's personally more fun to do with Arkham Asylum, though, only because it has a lot of the same cast. I suppose this has a lot of the same cast too, but... I like Arkham Asylum more. Also, best Arkham game; it never gets old, and it's always super satisfying from start to finish (in my opinion) (sorry for all the parenthesis).

  • @topsdaily_productions
    @topsdaily_productions 4 роки тому +1

    Well there is another DCAU which consists of Superman/Batman Public Enemies, Superman/Batman Apolkalips, Justice League: Crisis on 2 earths, Justice League Doom, Batman under the red Hood, Batman The killing Joke and Young Justice!

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  4 роки тому +1

      Most of those are not in the same universe as each other 🤙

    • @topsdaily_productions
      @topsdaily_productions 4 роки тому +1

      @@dcauwatchtower actually you might wanna look deeper not only do they have the same art style they also have minor connections to each other with other movies being referenced within each other!

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  4 роки тому +1

      Crisis and Doom, yes. Public Enemies and Apokolips, yes. The rest? All standalone. Fun to headcanon.

    • @topsdaily_productions
      @topsdaily_productions 4 роки тому +1

      @@dcauwatchtower no what about Under the red Hood and killing joke there is no problem with them being connected!?

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  4 роки тому

      They’re not officially connected.

  • @jasondrake323
    @jasondrake323 19 днів тому

    Turns out the police reacted like that to Luthor even when it was in the DCAU.

  • @JayTVIndia
    @JayTVIndia 3 роки тому

    When I found that cryme syndicate had a green lantern, I knew it was already not canon

  • @ESTComicsEvolutions
    @ESTComicsEvolutions 5 років тому +3

    88 minutes anyone ?
    2021 (3 years later): don’t know what I meant by that 🤷🏽‍♂️
    2024 (another 3 years) later: Still don't know what i meant 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @raphaeldelaghetto85
    @raphaeldelaghetto85 3 роки тому +1

    Damn. This just made me wish we got a better version of this movie set in the DCAU.

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  3 роки тому

      All that would’ve changed really is the art style and voice actors, but I also wish they’d just made it DCAU!

    • @raphaeldelaghetto85
      @raphaeldelaghetto85 3 роки тому

      @@dcauwatchtower Plus John Stewart (my personal favorite Green Lantern), being a bridge between the Justice League and JLU would’ve been nice. It also might’ve had a domino effect leading to more DC animated movies being set in that universe. To this day, it’s the best version of the DC universe imo.

  • @aimalkhan5028
    @aimalkhan5028 Рік тому

    Honestly, with how popular the mutliverse genre has become, this has to be the most underrated multiverse movie out there.

  • @sniffles8655
    @sniffles8655 5 років тому

    Is or could injustice be in the DCAU, Timmverse? I know the there are multiple dimensions in Injustice, but it's easy to imagine it in the DCAU because of the original voice actors and portrayal of so many characters

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому

      Doubtful. The Injustice universe has its own comic series, video games, etc.-you’d think if it was meant to be DCAU that they’d have purposely done so and made it obvious. There’s so much that went wrong with that universe that’s its a shame to have it be the DCAU’s future.

  • @themadafaka6839
    @themadafaka6839 3 роки тому

    This is my fave non theatrically released dc animated movie.

  • @weatherboy8252
    @weatherboy8252 5 років тому +1

    that's on hell of a specific series I like it

  • @patrickmarcottte4449
    @patrickmarcottte4449 3 роки тому

    One of the best dc animated movies, very underrated!

  • @KEEPTALKIN8215
    @KEEPTALKIN8215 3 роки тому

    When the question said luthor is still luthor I wouldn't really say he meant all versions are evil

  • @lexodus8552
    @lexodus8552 Рік тому

    the thing with lex luthor, he's wearing his power suit, which can vaporize a normal human easily

  • @JayanandSupali
    @JayanandSupali 5 років тому

    Crisis on two earths is my most fav DC Animated movie.

  • @Midnight_horrors885
    @Midnight_horrors885 Рік тому

    I like to imagine that a alternate version of this movie did happen in the dcau

  • @barq6994
    @barq6994 5 років тому

    Love the drumstick. Vic Firth?

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому

      Why, yes!

    • @barq6994
      @barq6994 5 років тому

      @@dcauwatchtower What heads do you use. I prefer remo or evans

    • @dcauwatchtower
      @dcauwatchtower  5 років тому

      I'm actually not a drummer myself. In the first WIC episode, I filmed it at my drummer friend Joe's house, and used a drumstick to smash the "Brainiac Attacks" case. Now it's tradition, I guess. These ones are mine, I own them for stick-clicking/gock-blocking purposes while teaching marching band.

  • @devindavis2940
    @devindavis2940 5 років тому +4

    Will it canon justice league action please!!!

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 5 років тому

      @Non-Ugandan Knuckles yeah, lets ignore batmans suit.

    • @nathanking2926
      @nathanking2926 5 років тому

      Yes

  • @danielramsey6141
    @danielramsey6141 Рік тому

    If I can sum up the DC Continunity. The DC Multiverse would Be like a Tree or a River! The Core Events for every Character start at the beginning with a few differences between timelines and Alternate Earths, but from there the Branches or tributaries of events all flow/crash into each other, or become break away…becoming SO different that it spawns completely different outcomes and relationships!
    I Believe “Crisis on Two Earths” is both canon to the Timmverse and an Alternate universe Telling of events! As it’s clear that Two Branches have intertwined in some aspects!
    It honestly Makes so Much sense the more you think about it. Just like there are so Many Trees on Earth, there are a vast number of Alternate Universe that co-exist.

  • @Esoteric-maiden
    @Esoteric-maiden 5 років тому +1

    One thing that continues to bother me, why are we allowed to see Wonder women's invisible jet

    • @michaelrhett4958
      @michaelrhett4958 4 роки тому

      Because as viewers we are omnipotent beings and as such, we are and to see things others can’t...