I have an Oregon Chainsaw Bench Grinder. I also have 1 AC powered Dremel, 1 battery powered Dremel, and Sthil 2/1 sharpeners. They all work well with practice.
First- If we had to list the importance of variables when sharpening a chainsaw chain, in my mind it would look like this: 1- The amount of hook on each tooth that is controlled by the file/stone depth while sharpening and the file/stone diameter. 2- The sharpness of the front and side edge of each tooth 3- The raker height that controls the thickness of cut. This will vary between 25 thou up to 35 thou depending on the power of the individual saw. The rakers on a brand new chain will need to be filed down if that chain is going on a more powerful saw that can take a larger shaving with each pass. 4- The angle each tooth is sharpened at is of much less importance than 1-3 above. The beauty of any chain sharpening guide is that it allows one to easily keep the hook optimal by controlling the depth of the file/stone from the tooth top, so the tooth edge cuts cleanly; however, it's important not to leave the edge too slight an angle which would cause the tooth to dull more quickly. Note that the chainsaw sharpener guide (both a file guide or stone type guide) only needs to be adjusted once to control this for the life of the sharpening guide. Therein lies the real beauty of a sharpening guide. Second- The 12 volt Oregon sharpener does not have the large black plastic guide support that you mentioned which blocks ones view. Third- I have found that sharpening the entire chain from the right side of the bar allows the stone to sharpen the teeth as it rotates upward which will form a tiny burr on each tooth edge to verify that it is then sharp. At my age one cannot see the sharpness of the edge but this tiny burr can easily be felt with ones fingernail. It takes half a second to drag ones fingernail over each tooth after you deem the tooth is sharp just to verify. Forth- The quality of the sharpening stone is far more important than the type of Dremel type sharpener. Any first time user would be discouraged with a Dremel type sharpener if they are unlucky enough to use a poor stone. A proper stone will feel gritty like a nail file if ones fingernail is dragged over it. A low quality stone will sharpen a few teeth and then does more burnishing than sharpening. A good stone will require only a couple of passes to sharpen a tooth that is slightly dull after cutting up a cord of clean hardwood.
Excellent points! I ordered a few of the Oregon bits to try with this tool as well. I like them but the stone fails pretty quickly on them where the diamond metal ezzdoo bits seem to last a bit longer. Now that I have had this tool for a while, I use it for quick touch ups when I am in a hurry but have found that hand filing still gives me the best result. Thanks for watching!
How's she goin'? That looks like a nice unit. Sure didn't take long to file the chain and the results were impressive!!! What to you do for the rakers? How often would you file those down? Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!!!
Hi Mike, I check the rakers once in a while with my little gauge and a flat file. Just takes a minute and you can feel the saw grab into the wood better as a result. This is a neat little power tool. I was sceptical at first but I guess the proof was in the time trial! Thanks for stopping by!
Great video. I use those 2 n 1 sharpeners and they seem to work ok but takes a while with a 24-25" bar and lately my hands start cramping about 1/3 of the way through it, not a huge deal but any time you can find something thats faster and works well is a plus. Ive seen these popping up on several videos and they all say they work well.
I get good results with mine. I run the oregon bits in it which I prefer. From time to time I'll file by hand but generally, this sharpener does the trick. Hand filing does seem to cramp my hands too!
The Stihl 12 volt portable sharpener works real good for me. It has a long cord with battery clips and uses different size stones to sharpen the chain. Really good out on the fire road when the chain needs a freshening to cut good again. I do use it as well to sharpen before going up the mountain. Works very similar to yours.
Wouldnt it be better just to get a dreml as you can use it for other things? Or can this unit act as a dreml.tool as well being able tonattach dreml bits? Im just wondering which unit would be better to buy
Funny you should say that because before EzzDoo approached me I had just purchased some of the Oregon bits to try! I've noted this down in my book for a future video, Thanks!
@@OakMountainAcotts just got the electric Dremel cause the two battery ones won't charge cause they used the crappy charge port that Samsung come out with a long time ago.. lasted almost a year now I use the battery powered Dremel as a paper weight about all its good for...lol.. the 3000 electric is good
nice little tool, handy and takes no time to sharpen a chain. i just bought a Tecomec Jolly EVO Chain Saw Grinder (lol@ name) i will use it for this season and maybe make a short review video about it later this year.
Even Dremel tools has gotten into the business . They make a piece that fits their tools with the angles on it for sharpening . I’ve seen folks take the battery powered ones with them into the woods to keep their chains sharpened !! Yes sir they do work well !!
I haven’t tried that. Saw files are quite brittle so be careful it doesn’t shatter and hurt you. The bits are pretty cheap and would likely work in a dermal. Take care, Jason.
Sharpening a chainsaw. Just not something you think about very often, though I've seen my father do it with a hand file back when we had a wood lot. That tool looked like it did a great job!
Hi Gary, I think I can get really good with this tool. I hate filing by hand so this is going to be a great time saver! Hope you are enjoying the channel; thanks for the support!
I usually always have a small generator with me. Just sits in the back of the pick up. (for my single serve k cup coffee maker lol)I think this tool would be perfect for me with the cord.
Well it sounds like you have your priorities right when you head to the woods! I still get my best edge by hand filing but these units will make an improvement quickly and keep you on the saw. Thanks for watching!
Good review Jason! I wonder it they plan on making a cordless (or battery) version at some point...I am slowly trying to get away from cords on most of my tools, battery technology (more powerful) has gotten so much better. I use a bench grinder now but will certainly check it out for convenience...stay safe! Ed
Nice work on the review Jason. Does Ezzdoo have a portable battery powered version? Seems like it would be very handy in a carry all! Best, David and Rachel from CFS
Hey guys, I had a quick look and I’m not sure that they do. Some other viewers have left comments about competing brands that have alligator clips for battery power in the woods… have a look! Thanks for watching, Jason
Hi, I’ve been using Oregon bits lately. I guess it all depends how much sharpening you do per session but you should be able to use a bit 3 or 4 times. In Canada, we can get a set of 3 bits for $10.00
Yes, much faster than a round file. I saw a trick from Sweden where they file the saw and then use a smaller hand file to do the underside of the tooth again. I’ll take the time to do this once in a while because it really seems to make a difference.
The issue with that style of sharpener is that every tooth will not be identical after grinding. Just as with hand filing. A bench grinder for chains will deliver a more consistent result. I also hand filed for 35 years, but after getting the bench grinder I'll not go back. I do bring a file into the forest in case I run out of chains tough.
@@OakMountainAcotts I am using a "cheap" Oregon grinder. There are better units out there with adjustment in all three axis and high precision bearings. There are even units upgrade-able to diamond grinding stones. Mine have neither but stills gives me much better chains than I was able to sharpen by hand :-) As a "bonus" all my friends who use chainsaws also come to visit and sharpen a few chains. Then they take them home and sharpen by hand until it is time for a new round in the grinder. I take that as confirmation that I am not the only one who thinks the grinder is more consistent than handheld units. The one thing to look out for with a bench grinder is to not remove to much material from the teeth. There is a little bit of play in the hinge on the grinder so I adjust the wheel to not touch the tooth, and then I apply a few kilos of sideways force on the handle to just touch the tooth. Learnt that from a Logosol chainsaw sharpening video. They also have some very nice stuff for sharpening.
1. Almost any sharpening system will work well if properly used. 2. This one would be a dealbreaker for me because it’s corded. I would take a cordless Dremel into the woods.
I bought one of these from Amazon. First time I used it was to sharpen the chain on my Stihl Wood Boss. I got through 3 teeth before the grinding bit was completely smooth. Did I do something wrong?
That doesn’t sound right. Maybe you just got a bad bit? I bought a few of the Oregon bits to try with it as well. They don’t last forever but I think they do a good job. Don’t push to hard and let the bit do the work.
Hand filing for me is as quick as that pretty much as long as you have not really damaged your chain. I file a lot as I cut 100 full cord of firewood in the winter from December to the 1st of April I do notice my angles aren’t perfect but if it’s sharp and I’m close it cuts well I may lose a little time cutting but it’s not enough to worry about the the splitting, stacking and loading is what takes the time with wood. Good review by the way.
Thanks Wayne. I’m experimenting with this tool a bit. I find a quick hand file after cleaning up the angles does a really nice job! You are a busy man if you are cutting 100 cords in 5 months. Using a skidder? Thanks for watching!
@@OakMountainAcotts I have a skid steer with a grapple and a bucket that I can get 1/3 of a cord in. I have spent the last ten years just cutting storm damage in the area on land that people don’t want loggers in. We have had 2 really bad ones the last one will be 3 years in July. I have some videos on UA-cam and you can watch if you like, it’s unreal the damage that occurred. I made one of a area when I started cutting and once I’m done there I will make another to show the difference. I never make it a job just break up my day as I am off for the winter every year. I get ask how long it takes and I have never really kept track but I am going to this year and see roughly how long it takes to cut split and stack a cord.
My first time sharpening any chain and the instructions were great. I first tried running it back and forth in the tooth several times too fast. Now I see nice and easy just a couple strokes. Thank you
Thanks for doing the last test with the new chain. I've got my old chain sharpened thanks to you and I'll cut tomorrow with confidence.
Glad we could help!
I have an Oregon Chainsaw Bench Grinder. I also have 1 AC powered Dremel, 1 battery powered Dremel, and Sthil 2/1 sharpeners. They all work well with practice.
Excellent feedback. I agree that practice will make them all work well. Sounds like you are well experienced! Thanks for watching!
First- If we had to list the importance of variables when sharpening a chainsaw chain, in my mind it would look like this:
1- The amount of hook on each tooth that is controlled by the file/stone depth while sharpening and the file/stone diameter.
2- The sharpness of the front and side edge of each tooth
3- The raker height that controls the thickness of cut. This will vary between 25 thou up to 35 thou depending on the power of the individual saw. The rakers on a brand new chain will need to be filed down if that chain is going on a more powerful saw that can take a larger shaving with each pass.
4- The angle each tooth is sharpened at is of much less importance than 1-3 above.
The beauty of any chain sharpening guide is that it allows one to easily keep the hook optimal by controlling the depth of the file/stone from the tooth top, so the tooth edge cuts cleanly; however, it's important not to leave the edge too slight an angle which would cause the tooth to dull more quickly. Note that the chainsaw sharpener guide (both a file guide or stone type guide) only needs to be adjusted once to control this for the life of the sharpening guide. Therein lies the real beauty of a sharpening guide.
Second- The 12 volt Oregon sharpener does not have the large black plastic guide support that you mentioned which blocks ones view.
Third- I have found that sharpening the entire chain from the right side of the bar allows the stone to sharpen the teeth as it rotates upward which will form a tiny burr on each tooth edge to verify that it is then sharp. At my age one cannot see the sharpness of the edge but this tiny burr can easily be felt with ones fingernail. It takes half a second to drag ones fingernail over each tooth after you deem the tooth is sharp just to verify.
Forth- The quality of the sharpening stone is far more important than the type of Dremel type sharpener. Any first time user would be discouraged with a Dremel type sharpener if they are unlucky enough to use a poor stone. A proper stone will feel gritty like a nail file if ones fingernail is dragged over it. A low quality stone will sharpen a few teeth and then does more burnishing than sharpening. A good stone will require only a couple of passes to sharpen a tooth that is slightly dull after cutting up a cord of clean hardwood.
Excellent points! I ordered a few of the Oregon bits to try with this tool as well. I like them but the stone fails pretty quickly on them where the diamond metal ezzdoo bits seem to last a bit longer. Now that I have had this tool for a while, I use it for quick touch ups when I am in a hurry but have found that hand filing still gives me the best result. Thanks for watching!
How's she goin'? That looks like a nice unit. Sure didn't take long to file the chain and the results were impressive!!! What to you do for the rakers? How often would you file those down? Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!!!
Hi Mike, I check the rakers once in a while with my little gauge and a flat file. Just takes a minute and you can feel the saw grab into the wood better as a result. This is a neat little power tool. I was sceptical at first but I guess the proof was in the time trial! Thanks for stopping by!
Great video. I use those 2 n 1 sharpeners and they seem to work ok but takes a while with a 24-25" bar and lately my hands start cramping about 1/3 of the way through it, not a huge deal but any time you can find something thats faster and works well is a plus. Ive seen these popping up on several videos and they all say they work well.
I get good results with mine. I run the oregon bits in it which I prefer. From time to time I'll file by hand but generally, this sharpener does the trick. Hand filing does seem to cramp my hands too!
I always sharpen by hand .after 4 shoulder surgeries I can't any more .I use a dremel with chain saw attachment .very simular and works awsome
They work pretty good. I still touch up with a hand file afterwards. A smaller 4mm file seems to really help the underside of the cutter!
The Stihl 12 volt portable sharpener works real good for me. It has a long cord with battery clips and uses different size stones to sharpen the chain. Really good out on the fire road when the chain needs a freshening to cut good again. I do use it as well to sharpen before going up the mountain. Works very similar to yours.
Thanks for the note, I’m going to check it out!
Wouldnt it be better just to get a dreml as you can use it for other things? Or can this unit act as a dreml.tool as well being able tonattach dreml bits? Im just wondering which unit would be better to buy
I think a dremel would work. I use Oregon bits
Absolute great video
Thanks!
Exactly it saves time and definitely money by using the chain longer instead of throwing away
It sure does…
How do you know you're keeping the correct angle when you're moving the tool back and forth?
A guide comes with it if you need it. A lot of chains have an angle guide etched into the top of the tooth as well.
Like to see a comparison video on the bits.. oregon sells them at Canadian tire 3 for 9.99. 8 for 16 sounds like a better deal but is it?
Funny you should say that because before EzzDoo approached me I had just purchased some of the Oregon bits to try! I've noted this down in my book for a future video, Thanks!
@@OakMountainAcotts just got the electric Dremel cause the two battery ones won't charge cause they used the crappy charge port that Samsung come out with a long time ago.. lasted almost a year now I use the battery powered Dremel as a paper weight about all its good for...lol.. the 3000 electric is good
Lots of different models out there! I have a nice little bench in the sugar shack and some power out there so I can see this working out well!
nice little tool, handy and takes no time to sharpen a chain. i just bought a Tecomec Jolly EVO Chain Saw Grinder (lol@ name) i will use it for this season and maybe make a short review video about it later this year.
Nice! I think the hand filing days are over!
Wow. A well made box and pamphlet
Thanks for the feedback! It worked well for us.
Can the plastic be cut back that was blocking your view to the angle display?
I took the angle guide right off. I follow the mark on the tooth!
Nice tool , I’ve got one that is 12volt . I got it at lowes home store . It has alligator clips to hook to a battery . It works very well !!
I was surprised at how well it works. Guess I’m not keeping up with the times!
Even Dremel tools has gotten into the business . They make a piece that fits their tools with the angles on it for sharpening . I’ve seen folks take the battery powered ones with them into the woods to keep their chains sharpened !! Yes sir they do work well !!
I wonder if you can use a chainsaw file with Dremal on a budget
I haven’t tried that. Saw files are quite brittle so be careful it doesn’t shatter and hurt you. The bits are pretty cheap and would likely work in a dermal. Take care, Jason.
Yes I've been using my dremal for about twelve years no problems !
Thanks for doing this video
Thanks for watching!
Also like the grenberg file setup for shop and in the field easy setup.. whoop.. whoop done..lol
Yes, they look like they work well!
Sharpening a chainsaw. Just not something you think about very often, though I've seen my father do it with a hand file back when we had a wood lot. That tool looked like it did a great job!
Hi Gary, I think I can get really good with this tool. I hate filing by hand so this is going to be a great time saver! Hope you are enjoying the channel; thanks for the support!
I usually always have a small generator with me. Just sits in the back of the pick up. (for my single serve k cup coffee maker lol)I think this tool would be perfect for me with the cord.
Well it sounds like you have your priorities right when you head to the woods! I still get my best edge by hand filing but these units will make an improvement quickly and keep you on the saw. Thanks for watching!
New sub love the content look forward to upcoming videos
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for the support and feedback! Take care, Jason
interesting. surprised that you didn't lower the rakers...or perhaps you did off camera
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Hi Phil, I touched the rakers up on all three saws yesterday. They didn’t really need much filing according to my guide! Thanks for watching, Jason.
Good review Jason! I wonder it they plan on making a cordless (or battery) version at some point...I am slowly trying to get away from cords on most of my tools, battery technology (more powerful) has gotten so much better. I use a bench grinder now but will certainly check it out for convenience...stay safe! Ed
Thanks Ed, there are some other models mentioned in the comments with alligator clips for battery hookup in the field. Take care, Jason
I have a rechargeable one in my Amazon Cart!
Nice work on the review Jason. Does Ezzdoo have a portable battery powered version? Seems like it would be very handy in a carry all! Best, David and Rachel from CFS
Hey guys, I had a quick look and I’m not sure that they do. Some other viewers have left comments about competing brands that have alligator clips for battery power in the woods… have a look! Thanks for watching, Jason
Sir, how many sharpening times until you need to change that bit?
Hi, I’ve been using Oregon bits lately. I guess it all depends how much sharpening you do per session but you should be able to use a bit 3 or 4 times. In Canada, we can get a set of 3 bits for $10.00
@@OakMountainAcotts so it's similar to round file by Durability, but you gain a speed.
Yes, much faster than a round file. I saw a trick from Sweden where they file the saw and then use a smaller hand file to do the underside of the tooth again. I’ll take the time to do this once in a while because it really seems to make a difference.
Thank you for the good info😊
Your welcome. Glad you found it useful!
excellent video thanks
Thanks for watching!
The issue with that style of sharpener is that every tooth will not be identical after grinding. Just as with hand filing. A bench grinder for chains will deliver a more consistent result. I also hand filed for 35 years, but after getting the bench grinder I'll not go back. I do bring a file into the forest in case I run out of chains tough.
That is good feedback! I’ve been eyeing the bench grinders, is there a make and model you would recommend?
@@OakMountainAcotts I am using a "cheap" Oregon grinder. There are better units out there with adjustment in all three axis and high precision bearings. There are even units upgrade-able to diamond grinding stones. Mine have neither but stills gives me much better chains than I was able to sharpen by hand :-)
As a "bonus" all my friends who use chainsaws also come to visit and sharpen a few chains. Then they take them home and sharpen by hand until it is time for a new round in the grinder. I take that as confirmation that I am not the only one who thinks the grinder is more consistent than handheld units.
The one thing to look out for with a bench grinder is to not remove to much material from the teeth. There is a little bit of play in the hinge on the grinder so I adjust the wheel to not touch the tooth, and then I apply a few kilos of sideways force on the handle to just touch the tooth. Learnt that from a Logosol chainsaw sharpening video. They also have some very nice stuff for sharpening.
@@rolfnilsen6385 great information and it sounds like it works really well! Thanks for sharing, Jason.
Winter up there… here in NS. Wet and damp.
Yes Sir, we have some snow! Warm today with a little rain though so things will be messy this week....
Exalant video I'm getting one
Thanks!
1. Almost any sharpening system will work well if properly used.
2. This one would be a dealbreaker for me because it’s corded. I would take a cordless Dremel into the woods.
Thanks for watching!
I bought one of these from Amazon. First time I used it was to sharpen the chain on my Stihl Wood Boss. I got through 3 teeth before the grinding bit was completely smooth. Did I do something wrong?
That doesn’t sound right. Maybe you just got a bad bit? I bought a few of the Oregon bits to try with it as well. They don’t last forever but I think they do a good job. Don’t push to hard and let the bit do the work.
If you just buy the top half it fits any tool
For sure. These are just like a dremmel tool that you can buy at a big box store with multiple attachments. Thanks for watching!
I have something like that but it is 12volt
Nice; I bet it works great!
Good video definitely helpful. It’s OR-EE-GUN not OR-EE-GONE that is so damn painful to listen to. From a 5th generation Oregonian😊
Glad you enjoyed the video. I’ll work on it but I can’t make any promises it will get better!
@@OakMountainAcotts appreciate the effort 😂
Hahaha coming from Wisconsin I could hear that Wisconsin twang. Now I know how to properly pronounce OreeGun. And Prescott, Arizona is like Biscuit.
Hand filing for me is as quick as that pretty much as long as you have not really damaged your chain. I file a lot as I cut 100 full cord of firewood in the winter from December to the 1st of April I do notice my angles aren’t perfect but if it’s sharp and I’m close it cuts well I may lose a little time cutting but it’s not enough to worry about the the splitting, stacking and loading is what takes the time with wood. Good review by the way.
Thanks Wayne. I’m experimenting with this tool a bit. I find a quick hand file after cleaning up the angles does a really nice job! You are a busy man if you are cutting 100 cords in 5 months. Using a skidder? Thanks for watching!
@@OakMountainAcotts I have a skid steer with a grapple and a bucket that I can get 1/3 of a cord in. I have spent the last ten years just cutting storm damage in the area on land that people don’t want loggers in. We have had 2 really bad ones the last one will be 3 years in July. I have some videos on UA-cam and you can watch if you like, it’s unreal the damage that occurred. I made one of a area when I started cutting and once I’m done there I will make another to show the difference. I never make it a job just break up my day as I am off for the winter every year. I get ask how long it takes and I have never really kept track but I am going to this year and see roughly how long it takes to cut split and stack a cord.
Nice! I'll check out your channel!
why not use a dremel saw sharpener stone cheap and easy..Option...lol cheers
I haven’t tried them but I’m sure they would work well. Thanks for watching!
At 8 minute mark is when sharpening starts, then you can't even see sharpening up close lol. Thx anyways.
Thanks for watching
My first time sharpening any chain and the instructions were great. I first tried running it back and forth in the tooth several times too fast. Now I see nice and easy just a couple strokes. Thank you
Call me wasteful, but much easier just to buy a new chain..
New chains are great but you can sharpen one to be as good as new and cut a lot of wood before it is worn out! Thanks for watching.
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