HOW ARE GERMAN KIDS DIFFERENT THAN AMERICAN KIDS? (are parents different?)
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Here are a few ways that German kids differ from American kids. This video is supposed to be lighthearted- PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND! I wanted to sprinkle in some parenting points as well- so this video might seem a little all over the place but for me raising kids and being a parent go hand in hand!
00:00 How are kids in Germany different than kids in the USA?
00:45 Leaving kids in strollers to sleep
03:16 Kids around alcohol
05:36 German kids eat vegetables and American kids don't?
07:59 German kids take "field trips" daily
09:47 In Germany- kids learn the "dark" truth about their history
13:08 Thank you for watching
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I hope you guys have as nice of weather as I do down here in Bavaria!! I made this video awhile ago and never got around to posting it so here we are! Please take it as a lighthearted video with some serious points thrown into the mix! Being a parent is hard (no matter what country you are from) and there is not a single perfect method of parenting. As long as you have good intentions and want the best for your children- you are on the right path ❤️
someone turn off the hair dryer outside, please! 😅
@@arnodobler1096 sorry, that was me…
Also another thing to note: I did not say in this video that slavery was more important than our Native American history. The reason I used slavery/segregation instead of Native American genocide (I don't know of a nicer way to say it) is because I have family members and friends that have lived through segregation in the USA. It is easier to talk about something you have "knowledge" about on a personal level.
@@HayleyAlexis No reason for searching a nicer way to say it. Name it for what it is/was. Everything else would be playing it down.
Your view of the US is total BS and just not true at all
As a (German) father to 3 girls (12 and twins of 10) living in the USA I was flabbergasted by the ridiculous sex education in this country which is also inconsistent from one state to the next. And I understand that in my home state of NJ it is actually handled "better" than in many other states where kids are being told that sex is not to be had.
I raised my kids very much along the lines I was raised. Nobody pranced around naked but from an early time in my life I knew dad looked different than mom and there was nothing particular about it.. So as the girls grew up and noticed anatomical differences between boys and girls, I answered questions as they arose in age appropriate ways. I also never used silly words for genitalia. A penis is a penis, a vagina a vagina and not a weewee or other b/s words the girls brought home from school. We had talks regarding changes in their bodies, growing breasts and pubic hair, having a period, tampons vs pads, how babies are made etc. Sometimes I was admittedly unsure of this organic approach when my daughter came home and said "Dad, 'such and such' said her mom told her..." You would not believe the absurd "explanations" some of her classmates were subjected to and I did not want my daughters to be ridiculed for knowing the proper terminology. I also recall the day after "hygiene class" where apparently at least nomenclature was taught. My daughter came home quite relieved and said something like "At least they know the words now".
In a country with some of the highest teen pregnancy rates of all "developed" countries it is high time to develop appropriate and accurate sex education in school, obviously many American parents are not able to provide it.
@Dera Kioandria Williams
Special? Not sure what you mean. Compared to here Germany does (just about everything) better than the US especially regarding supporting families who have children. Prenatal care, maternity (family) leave, Mutterschutz, Kindergeld, availability and affordability of pre-school, Kindergarten, school system, further educational systems, university. Not to mention Healthcare, time off /vacation, work-life balance (which allows parents to spend quality time with their kids) I could go on.
@Dera Kioandria Williams good for you when you are so privileged. You simply ignore the fact that child care costs thousands of dollars and more and more people can not afford it.if you really place the American health care system on par with Germany/Europe you disqualify yourself. Rich people live well anywhere. And your personal anecdotes are irrelevant, the systems in place are far more family friendly in Germany. It is telling that yo did not respond to any of the systems I quoted, most of them not even available anywhere in the US
@Dera Kioandria Williams allow me state yet another asset of yours: rudeness.
You could’ve had a decent conversation with a stranger who’s clearly stating his own (!) experiences, but instead you had no nice thought left to share, no mission to accomplish other than talking down on people.
Wow ...
@Dera Kioandria Williams you belong to America.
Very often people who only just started something are most fanatic about it.
I hope you'll never lose your job or get seriously ill.
Some time in the 90s a Danish woman was in New York and did exactly what you just described. She left her sleeping baby in its baby carriage outside and went into a coffee shop. She was arrested, and all hell broke loose. I remember how outraged the Danish media were, not about her behavior, but about the American justice system dealing with her.
I remember that! She was literally sitting on the other side of the window, with a clear view of the pram.
Bloody hell it must’ve been so traumatising for the mother. What actually happened at the end of that? I’m assuming she was released with no charges!?
@@danielwhyatt3278 Yes, it was really traumatising! And it took the New York authorities several days to figure out how much they had overreacted and to decide to reunite the child with her mother. I don't even think the New York authorities ever fully admitted how wrong they were. You can find much info about the case by web searching "Danish mother 1997 New York".
Well, considering how f***d up the US are, I wouldn't leave my baby unattended like I would in Europe. Maybe in hindsight the Police did her a favor
@@shanwyn Not by jailing her and removing her child for several days. Definitely not.
When I was 14, I went to Poland with my school for 3 weeks during the summer holidays. One day we visited the concentration camp in Auschwitz. We saw the wall with the bullet holes where people were shot,
piles of shoes, glasses and shaved hair, even the gas chambers and ovens where the bodies were cremated. There were also very small cells where you could only stand, which served as a special punishment. When my friend went into one of these cells and looked at the door sign, she said: "My grandfather was locked up in this cell, he gave me the number before we left and told me to go and see if it was still there." Yes, we all cried on the way back, but I would never say that the visit was wrong. The teachers at school can tell us a lot, but it still remains distant and abstract. Seeing it for myself helped me realise that something like that must never happen again.
Bless that man and his family. Thanks for sharing
So war das bei uns in den Mitte 80ern mit Buchenwald. Wenn man die sozialistische Färbung ausgeblendet hatte,wurde einem da enorm viel Wissen vermittelt.
@@rela4078 Tja, da haben die Soviets wohl die Massaker in Katyn vergessen,,,
Im Polish,living in Poland, we are taught about war in primary school, I took my first school trip to Auschwitz Birkeunau at 13.
i remember visiting it during two days trip from czech - and it was so chilly, i remember the beds and how it was essentialy every man for himself bcs the top beds were best
There are few things more adorable than a row of pre-schoolers holding hands on their way to an "Abenteuerspielplatz" or "Hallenbad".
that's so true ! I enjoy that sight every day when the little ones walk by my house towards the playground in every weather.
This is exactly what I said the other day when I saw little German children, all wearing red hats on their way to the Spielplatz... so cute!
So true.Our local "gang" of pre-schoolers walks by my office almost every day.Especially cute if they are singing.
My son and his entire grade just had a field trip to Dachau on Monday. When he came hone, I asked his impression. He said it was very “heavy”. He really appreciated the trip and said it was very worthwhile.
He probably won't forget the day. I was there over 30 years ago, and it's like it was yesterday.
For me it was 20 years ago and it’s still a fresh memory, seeing all the pictures, videos and the place itself, I remember it like yesterday
I was there over 30 years ago and i still remeber it vividly. My dad also took me to Verdun about a year later and i still remember every single detail i saw that day. Even seeing it with your own eyes, it is still hard to believe. Sheer madness! Experiences like these are important for kids. For me seems nationalism like a silly concept since then.
Yeah that's the answer I get most of children. They're not "traumatized" or scared by it but rather they truly understand what happened and take on the feeling of responsibility to never let that past happen again. I'm always in awe how well children are handling the past of Germany.
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COMMUNITY. The "answer" to many of your culture shocks here is community is an important part of European culture. 1. Your example of the stroller: Trust in community. 2. Your example of bars: Bars are places of community and children are seen as members of the community. 3. Your example of out-house activities: We raise children to be members of thwir community. It ks considered better to have them experience real life things and services of the community than stay hidden behind school walls.
CORRECT. | But it is the institutional racism that makes the U.S. a difficult country for SOME people.
Well said!
American parent here - I LOVED this video. When you talked about learning your history in school..... literally one of the top 10 reasons we are relocating to Germany. We feel like history is too important to brush over. In American History Classes, they paint history (especially our own) to be all butterflies and sunshine. The only way to not repeat history is to know history.
I wish you the best for your move and hope you enjoy Germany!
Wish you the best! (From Germany)^^
To which part of Germany are you relocating? If it's Cologne or somewhere in the Rheinland (Rhine area): Welcome. 🙂
As a german visiting america I experienced that myself. My parents and me went to hoover dam and got a tour there. First they showed us some film about it which was the dumbest thing I had ever seen in my life. It displayed what I thought only were prejudices against the USA but they're actually true, I guess. It basically only said that the dam was so great and had all of these benefits along with showing like 700 USA flags and having epic win music in the background. Even I knew at age 15 that a dam almost always has bad influence on the environment cause of lack of water in the area behind it, especially if it is build to generate electricity. But they didn't say anything about that and it was all butterflies and sunshine as you said. In germany I went to a lot of museums and other sights before where it always got explained neutrally what it's about with facts, data, problems and so on. So it kinda was a big culture shock for me and I couldn't understand why you would unironically show that to people. It seemed so surreal.
I think that American children being taught far more about the Holocaust than about slavery is really representative of America's arrogant, hypocritical self-view. Children learn about the big bad Germany but to me it seems like the goal of the exercise is not to learn about the past evils and how the country deals with its dark past today, but rather it seems to be that the lesson for children is "Germany was very bad in WW2, that's why we fought them and that's why we're the good guys". A big ego massage essentially, which I find really disrespectful towards the groups affected by the Holocaust. That is especially the case if you look at how the US deals with its own dark history: They sweep it under the rug and don't learn from it, and not just that, people of color are still being discriminated against.
And that's the essence of it: In America, history is an exercise in patriotism whereas in Germany, history is taught to raise awareness so it doesn't repeat itself.
> _"Germany was very bad in WW2, that's why we fought them and that's why we're the good guys"_
AKA:
"Germany was very bad in WW2, that's why we were thinking *really* hard about fighting them while we watched other countries fight them, and then when Pearl Harbor was blown up and we got declarations of war from Japan and Germany we decided that it's time to stand and show those evil Nazi's what's what, and no mistake about it!"
Your version has better chances of fitting on a bumper sticker, of course.
100% agree
"And that's the essence of it: In America, history is an exercise in patriotism whereas in Germany, history is taught to raise awareness so it doesn't repeat itself."
that's actually not really correct.
The main reason is completly different and this also explains why people are thaught to think like that.
Its very simple: the winner makes the rules and since germany was occupied allied and soviet forces made the rules what to teach and it didnt really change after that.
Dont get me wrong, that isnt bad or good, it's just a fact.
But its certainly not: "history is taught to raise awareness so it doesn't repeat itself."
Thats is historically and factually false.
@@flycrack7686 that is good to know, but I was referring more to the ways in which history as a subject is viewed nowadays rather than the original reason for it being the way it currently is.
@@charlotteice5704 yeah but thats a result of it and so somewhat a justification why we do it and not actually why we do it. if that makes sense XD
About the "daily" field trips, it is actually part of the education for early childhood teachers, how to analyze the ressources your community has to offer. Connecting with other institutions, using the offered free areas like communal playgrounds, forests etc. It is part of letting the children experience themselves as part of the community. We are not striving to isolate the kids, we are preparing them to be a part of this world around them.
Also: frequent trips help cement road safety in their minds. Looking before crossing the street, staying on the sidewalks, etc. That way they are better prepared to take their way to school by themselves a few years later.
That sounds like such a good thing to do for the kids.
Yes, the Germans let thier children go to school on their own, better in small groups, after training the way to school already in grade school. In the 4th grade they have training for cycling and pass a test. They get a certificate and then may ride the bike in the streets.
Parents usually walk the babies daily in the carriage to let them have fresh air. And yes, in winter you bundle them up very warm and they have a very good and deep sleep. So you do not wake them up but keep them in sight.
The education of Nazi Germany is very intense, almost too much. But that is the way they try to prevent this to happen again.
Alcohol of the age of 16 is for beer and wine. With 18 you are of age and only then you can purchase hard stuff. And yes, they get drunk, but don't they get drunk in the US, where it is forbidden?
My daughter offered on her 16th birthday party wine and beer and she was the only one drinking one glass of redwine. What is not forbidden is not so interesting.
I totally abhore the Waldtag, my kid truly struggles at times. They go regardless of the weather (maybe not over 30 C or if it pours or in minus degrees.) Not every kid wants to play with the damn bugs or branches,or just not every single week.
@@anamariaclaragrama-asztalo5562 I don't wan't my Boss or custumer every day, but i have do deal with it. But i was prepared
We are a forest kita and tze kids LOVE IT. It has always to do a lot with the perspective of the parents. If they sont like it, the kids dont.
Here's how the thing with the alcohol worked in our family:
From pretty early on, I got to sip a little wine at Christmas and a bit of champagne at New Year's Eve and my mother explained to me that it's something adults do for special occasions. She also told me about the negative side to it.
Or to put it differently: she didn't turn it into a taboo.
And the result was: since it wasn't a forbidden fruit, I never really had any interest in it. I didn't like the taste, I got to experience the "feeling funny" part of it under supervision and because of this it wasn't a good thing to express my "teenage rebellion".
Same happened with my brother. We always had alcohol openly and reachable in a shelf, happily gathering dust.
Similar here. My brother and I are in our 30s and still more or less non-drinkers (never got drunk). From time to time a good glass of wine or a cooling bottle of beer in the summer and I'm fine. But my parents are like that as well.
I only got drunk one time in my life, under my fathers watch. It happend at a family gathering to celebrate christmas. The weappon of choice was Glühwein/mulled wine. It didn’t need much in the first place. On the next morning my father did wake me up at 7 o clock in the morning. With a very famous german saying on his lips: if you can drink, you can also work. Well, did I mention, after this experience I never got drunk again? Same with cigarettes, because they weren‘t forbidden, I never felt the need to try them.
Same.
Definitely seems like trying to avoid demonizing on one hand and normalizing alcohol and cigarettes on the other hand is a pretty German child education thing. 🤷
Does anyone know if there are any studies around about that topic? Now I'm actually curious.
@@asaris_ I don't know but same could be said about sex education.
I just send my kid out to the playground to play unsupervised with his other unsupervised friends to watch this video with a cold lemonade in my garden. They came back because they were bored and i gave them tools to build a bench... i'm pretty convident that i'm an average german parent 😁
Ist die Bank fertiggeworden?
@@HowIamDriving Just what I was thinking: How did the bench turn out?
@@user-sm3xq5ob5d if it's like the "things" my nephews made, it's more like a medieval torture instrument. :-)
Ich habe die nägel, die nach oben rausgeragt haben, abeflext und wir haben den "Tisch" mit Mörtel abgesichert 😅
@@ketamu5946 xD xD
Learning about history isn't about assigning blame here. It's about learning to know what happened so we can identify patterns in today's world before the next incident comes to pass. And this is one of the reasons the whole discussion about "CRT" is so ludicrous in the first place.
The Fear of Knowledge is strong within the American psyche. The chance of an elementary or high school student learning the realities of Slavery in the United States, is somewhere between nil and nul.
Well said.
Well but if you identify patterns nowadays you're automatically playing down the nazis...
There is an old saying that those who fail to learn history are destined to repeat it. I'm really pleased to hear that Germans won't be repeating their bad history..... The USA is a little more concerning though.
CRT is not history as far as I know. It’s more like a social science philosophy class, they do learn a lot about slavery and discrimination in history. I live half time in the US and I had to hear a lot about the discussion and the level it could be discussed in HS, it would be everything but scientific.
Bread with butter and radishes sprinkled with a bit of salt is one of the best combinations (maybe surprisingly if you never had it), it's also popular here in Czech Republic and I remember liking it as a child. I haven't eaten it in so long, I think I'll buy some tomorrow.
Delicious memories!
In Poland too
14-16 years old, and you call them kids? I think they are more than old enough to learn about history, and about what can a man do to another man, if freedom and democracy are no more counted as values. My class was given Anne Frank's diary to read when we were 10-11, and I think it was not too soon. You were very brave to go to Dachau alone, it's a heart wrenching experience...
What a crap, Anne Frank was a fake character, half of the world history is and was a psyop. Why do you think Anne Frank, Emilia Erhardt, Glenn Miller apparently died after people started asking g questions. The elites took those fake characters off the scene.
I like putting myself in uncomfortable situations and learning along the way. I was a totally different person back then than I am today. I probably did not act in a respectable manner when I went but I guess the first step to change... is actually taking a step.
@@HayleyAlexis as I said, you are very brave
It is in the 7th grade when they are first introduced to the Holocaust. In 4th grade, they learn about sexuality. Also in the 7th grade, they start their 2nd language, which for many students here, it is their 3rd or 4th language.
Total normales Alter. Im Gymnasium war es Standard in der elften Klasse im Geschichtskurs (oder politische Bildung) dorthin zu fahren, es gab dann aber später auch schon Gruppen, die das als Wandertag gemacht haben ab der 8. Klasse. Genau das richtige Alter: reif genug um es zu begreifen, jung genug um noch beeinflussbar zu sein, was wirklich wichtig ist. Und man sieht ja auch, dass es irgendwelchen "Gangster-Rappern für Arme" gut getan hätte, wenn die in dem Alter da gewesen wären und es nicht erst nach ihren despektierlichen Texten, für die sie zurecht gehatet worden sind, getan hätten
Regarding kidnapping rates: Most kidnappings actually happen by relatives, usually either the mother or the father taking the child away from the partner. That a child just gets kidnapped by a random stranger isn't unheard of, but it is rare. In addition, Germans have this habit to look out for children on the street.
Heh. I had that three times now in Germany that some toddler got a sudden surge of independence, ditches mommy / daddy/ older sibling and head straight for the *automated* sliding doors leading to that fun parking lot full of fun cars ...
By now: whenever I'm in the area around the doors and see a toddler, my "worst case scenario" neurons activate and I'm watching the little sweetheart like a hawk.
They do look out WAY TOO MUCH
(As a German growing up in Germany and having had my son in Germany too), I have never ever experienced someone leaving their baby outside a cafe! I would never for once have considered doing this as a mother, nor do I know anyone who would! Of course one would be worried about kidnapping or even just the child waking up in a strange environment with nobody there to reassure or comfort him/her.
So I was very surprised about hearing this story, in any case I would not think this is in any way typical for Germany. On the contrary, in my experience many German mothers are even slightly over-worried and "security-obsessed" compared to mothers in other countries.
I'm a hunter, and we have a special type of kindergarten called waldkindergarten (forestkindergarten) were the kids are mostly outdoors in the woods. I often was there with some huntingmates or employees of the forest department to make field trips with the kids and teach them about the forest, the plants and the animals who live there. I ever remember the excitement in the eyes of these kids when they see frogs, salamanders or some insect species. I'm not a parent but I was always enjoyed of the curiosity of the kids, when we showed the secrets of the nature to them. We sometimes build some bows, showed them whittling, build huts, made quizzes about the things they had discovered, the kids also asked a lot of questions to us. It is a lot of funtime for me to do such things.
My Kindergarten class went to those I think twice every month and it's absolutely amazing, I still love being in the Forrest especially since my health is absolute garbage since childhood and the Forrest is one place I can go without struggling as much.
@@shatteredreality7892 Enjoy your time being outdoors.
This is so so cool! I wish I was a Waldkind!
In Denmark it is also very normal to let children sleep outside, even in winter. Also take them with you in the baby carriage when you go to a coffee shop with your friends. In 1997, a Danish woman was arrested in New York because she had "left" her child asleep in the baby carriage.
Oh yes, in 97 that happened! That is why I remember it so well. My oldest daughter was 1 year old at that time.
Same in Finland. You can imagine the shock of some foreigners when the temperature is like -10 celcius.
Concerning alcohol: I can remember that I was allowed a sip of sparkling wine at New Years Eves as child and I always felt very important and "grown up". Also my father sat with me one evening when I was 13 or 14 and he put some rum into my tea (that happened in the late sixties) . He said: " Drink it and experience how you feel, then you can recognise if someone tries to make you drunk. Perhaps it will help you to be safe." I was quite bewildered but I think it was a good and useful experience.
I think it's really common here to let children have a taste of beer when they ask if they can taste it and they're usually appalled, because it's bitter and disgusting to them, so they will be deterred for quite some time from trying it again. I'm 37 and I still hate beer and my grandfather let me try when I was about 5 years old, if I remember correctly
@@hopejohnson6347 I had the exact same experience with beer. Tried it as a kid and I hated it. I've never gotten used to the taste. I drink alcohol occasionally, but never beer 😄
I tried "Stroh Rum" myself, when I was 11, because it always tasted so nice, when added to belgian waffles( in drops). taking a little swig of that 80% Stuff left me without taste for 2 weeks :)
This is sad. I have experienced something similar. Imo, parents should not introduce their chilren to alcohol.
@@catsara9114 I do not think so. Kids experimenting themselves leads to far worse results.
The reason why so many kids in kindergarten go out so much is because A) they don't wanna see the same things everyday and B) they can learn something on the way. For example my kindergarten had it's own (big) playground but we kids would still pretty frequently walk to the town's playground. This way we learned how to behave when walking alongside the streets & how to interact with traffic. That way when I went to elementary school I could already navigate my way through town on my own and it took me only a few days to adapt to the new way and could then make my way to school without my parents.
I totally agree with you on he last point. I spent a year in highschool in the Midwest and found it weird from a German perspective that all the history concerning the killing and land grabbing of and from Natives Americans was never mentioned and when it was, it was always "oh the brave settlers fought and persevered"..you could visit local forts and see how the soldiers lived also how the Native Americans lived and grew their food but it wasn't mentioned that one group killed and stole from the other - ironically it ws mostly how the soldiers ans settlers withstood attacks be the NAtives *faceplam*...also a lot of racism and prejudice towards reservations and "them" getting money from the government. Just never a word about how "the Americans" got their beautiful land. From a German perspective that always felt shallow and false to overlook/ignore such a grieve misconduct in the past.
I'm not knowledgeable about the curriculum in the Midwest, however, in California we learned quite a bit about treatment of the Natives (trail of tears), etc.
My wife did her Abitur in Munich and we often compare the educational systems. My point of contention with the system is the segmentation of children rather early into gymnasium, etc.
Additionally, there should we one standardized Uni exam "Bundesweit" rather than value being placed on regional education systems and their specific Abitur grade. (The weighting of it based on Bayern, BW, Saxony, etc.)
@@w.e.b1326 I don't necessarily mean in school only - also historical sites etc.
Yes, the early segmentation is not really favorable - as a teacher I would like a course system that allows students to learn different subjects in different difficulty levels..I do think that the German way of teach all the different subjects throughout the different grade years and haven them all be mandatory results in a broader education than in the US. The Abitur is regionally different, yes - one of the last bastions of federalism, but I'm also not a big fan of standardized testing like the SATs..I don't think there will ever be total fairness in education, unfortunately
@@annamiehe6538 I agree that the SAT has flaws. Most certainly giving advantages to those who encounter certain verbiage as well as having the monetary means to take the expensive pre-SAT courses. However, I don't see this educational and opportunity disparity being so drastic here in Germany. I almost feel like it would work better here than in the U.S. I do fear that you are right, there isn't one perfect system and there will always be unfair advantages.
- To your point about having a broader mandatory curriculum, I didn't gather that information from my wife.
- Moreover, my daughter will be starting her academic journey in August. I look forward to observing the differences first hand.
@@w.e.b1326 You will see that there isn't any/much choice in subjects in German schools until the last two years in Gymnasium. All students have to have a certain number of lessons in Biology, Chemistry and Physics as an example and in the US (at least in my Highschool) it was enough to either have a year of Physics or Chemistry to graduate. Therefore most students chose either or and missed out on some valuable lessons (I'm a Physics teacher ;) ) Also mandatory foreign language, depending on the school two mandatory foreign languages..
Was anyone taught WHY settlers went to the Americas in the first place ?
Hallo Hayley, danke für das nette Video... aus meiner Perspeltive ist es auch verwunderlich, dass Kids in USA mit 16 jemanden umfahren können, mit 18 jemanden umschießen können, aber erst mit 21 selbst "gegen sich" trinken dürfen... so sind sie, die kulturellen Unterschiede - danke für deine Beiträge :-)
I know what you mean. Here in Britain we had similar rules. Sex at 16 and can also start learning to drive with driving at I think 18. Plus you are also legally considered an adult anyway at 18 so you can drink alcohol and fully drive with being a full adult at 21. Although obviously you can still best to do everything at 18 including going into active combat in the military. It feels crazy looking over at the US and seeing how they’ve got it completely backwards. Of course as we have seen recently, they are continuing to do everything backwards.
ganz ernsthaft also das mit dem überall saufen ist schon ein mega problem ... auch dass es überall zu jeder zeit verfügbar ist.
@@kohlrabenschwanz Ja viele wissen mit sich auch nichts anderes mehr anzufangen außer saufen. Für viele ist eine Feier ohne Alkohol auch keine Feier ...
Der Vorteil ist Erst mit 21 können sie betrunken Autofahren und aus dem Auto heraus schießen :D
@@blablup1214 Ja, mein Freund weiß auch oft nichts mit seinen Freunden anzufangen, außer Saufen oder Zocken. Beim Zocken redet er wenigstens manchmal auch über persönlichere Dinge mit seinen Freunden, aber insgesamt finde ich es etwas schade. Mit einer Freundin war ich vor ein paar Monaten im Palmengarten Frankfurt und will es demnächst mit einem Freund wiederholen. So was würde meinem Freund nie einfallen, mit seinen Freunden zu machen.
I work at a Gesamtschule (a form of secondary school) that also has the public library in the building. It's always so cute to see groups of toddlers or kindergardeners with their little traffic wests walk through the school building. And it's cute how sixthgraders "awww" over them.
I'm german and would never leave my baby outside, not even if I sat directly on the otherside of the window. But some people seem to have more confidence in other people.
Same here, I would never do that
Same here. I am able to imagine that this may happen in a very small village, but certainly not in a town or city here in Austria.
Not more.
In my childhood (1973 born) it was more common. It talked over this with my aunt.
It stopped in the end 80 and 90
Oh, only to mentioned im from Hessen.
Same for me
As a Belgian, I remember in middle school and high school we had trips to: Breendonk (WWII concentration camp in Belgium), the Africa museum (at least part of if was about Belgium's colonial past), the city of Ypers to visit the WW I trenches, graveyards and Menenpoort (memorial monument). As far as I know excursions like these are quite normal in Belgium middle/highschools.
I can't say I remember every visit clearly or that I enjoyed all of it (I remember not liking the Africa Museum, mainly because I though museums were boring), but to some extend they have left some impressions on me.
It seems like such a waste/missed opportunity to not take your pupils to visit a plantation/plantation home/etc if that is anywhere near you. A visit like that really sticks better in your mind than reading something in a textbook.
I'm afraid students in the southern states of the US are not allowed to read anything about that in textbooks. Those books have recently been banned because parents don't want their kids to read them.
I had nightmares for a LONG time after visiting Breendonk as a youngster. I live 10 minutes from there, and pass it every day. Still don’t like it.
No better way to learn about something than to see it. You can read as many books and watch as many movies as you like, but nothing will beat the real experience, escpecially with places like Breendonk. I mean details like the gutters to drain the blood... that sticks with you forever and can never be thaught in a classroom. That's why i think it is an obligated fieldtrip for all Belgian high schools for good reason.
Too bad they didnt mention anything about chopping off hands in the historylesson about the colinial times. Seems like every country has a nack of leaving out the worse...
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I think how much Congo was discussed really depends on the school/teacher.
I don't think we saw it extensively but I'm fairly certain we did see the main points including the hands chopping off thing in history class.
I had some friends and they said that the subject was actually thought quite extensively in their schools. (That's 10-15 years ago)
I'm fairly sure it must be a subject in the curiculum, but that it depends on the school/teacher, how fast or detailed they go over it.
Though I've been out of high school for more than 10 years now, I have not clue about how the current teenagers get it covered.
The last time (I think) a baby was stolen here in DK was around 1970. She was taken in a stroller outside a shop. Even though there was no social media then, the news ran fast and in no time the whole country was looking for her. I think she was found after a couple of days, unharmed. If I remember correct, it was a sick woman that took her.
Kids are still in their strollers outside shops.
EDIT: Just looked it up, it was in 1965 and the baby was named Tina, and she was away for about a week.
Eight in total since 1965 and a boychild was stolen about a year later, he was never found.
In 1966 there was also the Basse case from Odense, where a little boy was kidnapped in the middle of the day. A crime that has never been solved.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Ohh, I didn't know that.
@@pfrylle Strange, I can't remember that. I have always lived close to Odense.
@@Gert-DK Ikke fordi jeg kan huske den, der var jeg ikke født 😄
Men har både hørt om den som barn, opvokset i Odense, og har også læst artikler om sagen.
Prøv at Google Basse-sagen Odense, så kommer historien frem.
Har læst at det er stadig en af de sager som “naget” politiet i Odense, at de ikke har opklaret. Og den stadig er “aktiv” i opklaringen, hvis der kommer nye beviser eller vidneforklaringer.
Konzentration Camp Visit is in the shool plan for grade 9 since many years I guess. As far as I know, everybody is doing it.
Yes, we teach very young kids to eat raw vegetables (and fruits of couse) and hope, that they still do it, when they grow up. In Kindergarden or at birthday partys there are allways plates with raw vegetable and kids love it. It is also very common to eat it on buttered bread.
Visiting a regular concentration camp is not possible for some students as part of a "simple" day trip(Distance), but other abuse sites are also visited.
So-called satellite camps were often set up for specific purposes and the people concerned carried out special work there.
Sometimes for companies, like VW or for Schindler's factory and sometimes also for clean-up work after bombing raids (1944-1945)
@@manub.3847 our school does a trip to Auschwitz in Poland with the 10th grade every year. My son was very impressed and said it was an experience he'll never forget. Only after that he said he could really understand the dimension of the holocaust.
They are staying in Krakau for 3 days and also visit the city so they also encounter the modern Poland. I am happy they put so much effort in educating our kids.
I have visited Dachau many times with my pupils although I was the art and english teacher. I have also taken many classes to the synagoge in the nearby town. It's not only a part of the school curriculum, but a necessity.
I feel like going somewhere for activities in school or kindergarten is not just because of the lack of rooms, but to give the kids the opportunity to „go into the world“. I remember that it’s always a great adventure for me in kindergarten when we went to the woods or even just the library
1. I was born in the former GDR (1982), I know that it was really common to let your stroller with your baby outside a shop or restaurant. Now it is less. It is still often done in little villages or your home area (bakery...).
2. Letting children/teens visit bars is quite common. It is the same as e.g. in the UK or Ireland when visiting a pub. And letting 16 year old legally drink alcohol is ok. It is the same with sex: forbid it or make it hush-hush and they will do it in secret. Teach them responsibilities and consequences and they feel more like you think of them as grown-ups/mature.
3. At home we had vegetables to nearly every lunch/dinner. My parents let me help with the preparations and encouraged me to taste them in different way (raw, as salad, boiled, cooked, baked). It was a good way to train my taste and broaded my horizon. I still like cauliflower raw - it tastes a bit like walnut.
4. It was absolutely normal for us to play outside without supervision after school and homework were done. We had our times when we had to come home, but what we did and where we were were often a secret to our parents. It was fun!
5. There is a saying: Wer die Vergangenheit vergisst, ist verdammt, sie zu wiederholen. - Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. It is important to know the good and bad things that happened in the past and how they happened.
I agree with points 2 to 5, but leaving your child outside while visiting a restaurant, café or whatever, isn't really what a caring parent usually does. I'm from the west.
@@magmalin I also would never let a baby stay outside a restaurant, cafe or bar. And it is many years when I saw that happen.
I live in a village and there it is common to let your baby in the pram outside, but only at small shops (bakery, butchery, florist). You can see your baby through the windows and you are with it within a few minutes. And nearly all people know you and have an eye on your baby (especially older women/grandmas). It's quite safe.
@@seleyav.7101 Is it a problem where you live to push the pram with the baby into the shop so you can have an eye on your child?
I can only speak from my own experience but many small shops in germany are exactly that...small. I have been in flower shops and butcherys where you basically walk in forwards and walk back out backwards bc there is barely space to turn around (some of the most beautiful shops in my opinion). Or there are a couple steps in front of the door or sth like that. Its not very convenient for parents or disabled people but you can't change that from one day to the other...
@@magmalin "...isn't really what a caring parent usually does."
I feel like the “drinking alcohol in front of children” really is a huge cultural difference between Germany (and most other European countries) and the US. To me it seems almost as if alcohol in the US is often demonised as a drug (which it arguably is) while for most of Germany and Europe it’s an adult treat complementary to a dinner, festive occasions a warm summer night a cold winter day on the Weihnachtsmarkt, the drug aspect is less prevalent which one might think of as problematic but as a consequence the desire to abuse and overconsume is less since the ‘forbidden’ aspect isn’t really a given.
I don't think that more teenagers consume alcohol in Europe than in the US just because they have seen adults drink. When I was a teenager ( over 50 years back) my parents let me drink wine and beer at home as a teenager so that I could experience the effect of alcohol while my parents were present instead of trying it first at a party and overdoing it.
Maybe I will look up alcoholism rates in the USA and Germany. That might be interesting to see if the more lenient country (Germany) has more alcoholics or the USA (the more restrictive country). I can only assume it would be the USA
@@HayleyAlexis yes, that would be interesting. My guess would be that the US is similar to Scandinavia with their strict alcohol laws where kids get so smashed that they have to be taken to the hospital. They don't know how much they can 'digest' and then just drink too much. Of course that also happens in Germany but still not more than in those countries I would guess.
@@HayleyAlexis That would be interesting, indeed!
@@grandmak.My children were allowed alcohol from a young age. One hardly nipped at a glass of Sekt, the other stored the bottles of vodka and stuff her friends did not dare to take home. But did not drink any after the first time she got sick from drinking too much (and calling us to pick her up). It obviously was a good decision to trust our children to find their own way.
Everyone is always so impressed by how well Germany handles our dark past and how well kids here are educated on heavy topics like the Holocaust. But consider this: We (Germany) lost the second world war and were held accountable by the entire world for what our country did. We HAD to become this way because after ww2, everyone was watching and basically forcing Germany to acknowledge what happened. Nobody, no powerful outside force ever held the US accountable for what they did to native Americans and black people. This isn't meant to excuse the lacking education regarding Slavery and Genocide in the US and it isn't meant to dismiss what Germany is doing to educate about the Holocaust. It's just an explanation as to why Germany is so good at this and why the US has such an easy time ignoring its horrible past. Germans aren't "Just better at this", we literally had no other choice. While the US isn't pushed by anyone with enough influence and power and isn't held accountable by anyone from the outside. Why is this important to recognize and acknowledge? Because it helps to actually analyze why the situation in the US is the way it is. "People from the US care less and don't want to be held accountable as opposed to german people who care a lot and love being held accountable" isn't a good way to argue this because it isn't true. "There was a powerful and global push for german people to acknowledge the horrors that happened in their country so it shows you that Americans also would need a great (maybe not global) push to do the same. So how can we do this?" is much more productive. Countries who aren't held accountable by some greater outside force will always try to hide the horrors they committed (another example would be Japan and its horrific war crimes regarding Korea).
It's also an important thing to remember as a german person. Seeing ourselves as morally superior people who "Just did the right thing because it was right after such horrors!" is plain wrong because we would have ignored all of this if we weren't forced to acknowledge it. And thinking that way also prevents us from recognizing situations in which Germany DOES ignore horrible things our country did in the past (like german colonial crimes in Africa).
Very true and valid points!
I think the biggest problem for me is the emphasis the USA places on the Holocaust. Was the Holocaust one of the darkest times in history? Yes BUT the USA is not perfect.
Regardless if Germans were forced or not- they did and still continuously do today which is something that should be recognized. Maybe it's all a show? but I don't think so... not from the people I have met and that places I have been here in Germany.
God save the USA if some day they lose one of their many wars and are held accoutable for their war crimes.
Actually it started with the American/Allies making Germans citizens who lived near the camps actually see the bodies. It really gained traction in the 1950s when a wave of anti-semitism hit Germany again. The German government stepped up. Most other nations just don't talk about their part in the war.
I agree. The US is never held accountable. We're like the big bully that preaches "Do as I say, not as I do." We have done many wrongs as well- slavery, Native American injustice, not to mention taking over Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Arizona, New Mexico from their native people. The list can go on...
It´s traumatising to hear all this as a German kid. You want to kill yourself or become evil because all is meaningless.
I noticed that Americans miss one little thing about our drinking age. Technically we don't have a drinking age we only have a buying age (Beer 16yrs, Vodka etc 18yrs). So if a dad gives his 15 year old kid a little glass of sparkling wine for new year it's totally fine. People would probably judge you a bit for it and if it happens often you could get in trouble with the Jugendamt (Kids Protection ministry) but if it's a one time thing with a little amount you're not gonna get in trouble with the police if they see it
The good old times, when it was okish for your parents to let you party alone ,with other 14-15 years olds, including wine and beer. When I was the first time drunk and had to vomit, my mother told me: don't drink so much the next time. Leason learned. But you cannot buy guns here (which is good)
@@andreaslermen2008 You can absolutely buy and own guns in Germany. It is more regulated and also more expensive than in the US but if you are over 21 and want to own e.g. a large-caliber pistol or rifle, it is not that hard to legally get one. What is practically impossible for most people is to get a carrying license (Waffenschein).
@@Morpheus451 PLUS you have harsh restrictions concerning storage, transport, handling. You never see civilians carrying weapons openly - and that's good!
Technically, we also have a drinking age. By law, according to the "Jugendschutzgesetz", teens in Germany from the age of 14 can drink alcohol if they are accompanied by their parents and those have allowed it. According to the Jugendschutzgesetz, children and teens under the age of 14 are not allowed to consume alcohol at all.
@@capa_rus The "Jugendschutzgesetz" only applies to the public sector. It regulates who is allowed to sell alcohol in which form and quantity to whom and in which premises children and young people are allowed to stay under which conditions. It applies to restaurants, beer gardens and bars etc. At home, in the private sphere, the parents' duty of care applies. So if a father gives his 12-year-old son a sip of champagne on New Year's Eve, or a piece of eggnog cake at his grandmother's 80th birthday, that is permitted. The parents bear the responsibility here; if the child suffers harm, the parents are liable.
In France (Guadeloupe) as a kid (8-10years old)with my class we went to visit the plantation houses. It's very common. It's history and some of our ancestors. We talked about slavery in depth throughout the years. It's less common in mainland France because they have less visible traces of the slave trade. But in Bordeaux I guess you can still see the docks where the "Négrier" ships were.(i'm not sure)
I just remembered we went to a little museum explaining and commemorating the Amérindiens, which were Native people of the island before Colombus came. It was sad history but necessary. Some people are still descendants from them.
Well, when I went to school we had survivors comming to school and telling their stories. After this, tbh, every visit of a concentration camp is not much more than a reassurement, I did not misunterstand anything. First hand impressions are of such great value. And yes, its part of this land's history.
Unfortunately but naturally there aren't many survivors left so the visit to the camps as well as documentary films are all we have now.
I was there over 30 years ago, and it's like it was yesterday. (Dachau)
Yes, also in my Flensburg school class visited a jewish autor of a book about north german concentration camp on a munich school class camping trip, we visited concentation camp Dachau.
@@grandmak. my school is still doing that, my class attended the meeting in 2019. This year it was held again for the first time after covid started
The "letting the stroller" out is pretty interesting, especially for Bavaria. Back in the day in East Germany it was common to let your baby f.e. outside the supermarket while the moms are shopping. There are even some photos where you can see like 15 strollers lined up, parked in front of the supermarket. The crime rate was very low back then, so no one really worried that someone would snatch a baby away.
The other thing is that the kids should get as much fresh air ( Frische Luft) as possible, as long they are wearing fitting clothing so they are not freezing. So that they build a good immune system from early on :)
I would never have left the pram with my kids outside of either a supermarket , a café or anywhere else. Not because of any crime rate, but for the well-being of my children. Of course children need fresh air, but definitely not by parking them outside of a supermarket, café, etc.. But I guess that the east German mentality is still somewhat different.
Especially for Bavaria. And yes, back in the day. Way back in the day.
I have a history book about my east german town and they have photos of that as well, it looks so funny (I have never seen prams parked in that spot since I moved back here last year, I don't think it's common anymore. ... but we also don't have that many babies)
but the GDR was very into dropping babies off at daycare from 6 months on so I think the whole mentality was different, too. like, if you're told that your baby is fine if you have as little bonding time as possible (see also: letting a baby in distress scream it off until they basically pass out from exhaustion), you'll not see it as weird to leave them outside a café for an hour.
Now I don't think it was irresponsible though. I suspect people were just used to watching out for those babies a little.
I love seeing a group of kindergarten kids in town going somewhere.. it's such a funny sight, there are always those who follow the teacher, the naughty ones breaking the line, the curious ones going every which way, the giggly ones making jokes... it always brightens up my day :D
When I was a kid we made a short walk to the beach and a car stopped at the crosswalk very abruptly with screeching breaks so we were a bit frightened and shocked... but it taught us a lesson I think was very valuable about safety. And we got extra ice-cream to recover from shock, yeeeeey :))) I still remember that now in my 40s :)
I think you are the only America that talks and not shouting. That really is nice. Keep up the good work.
I also love Hayley‘s pretty voice. Nalf doesn’t shout, either.
@@LaureninGermany OK, two Americans then 😀
Hey America can you please hand over the ridiculous title of the land of the free to Germany it seems that the people in Germany have more freedom than the people in the Divided States of America WOW.
Other than that a great video keep it up👍
And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱
I totally agree
Dude... you can smoke weed in the open legaly😭... you should have the title😅
all European countries they have more freedom than the United States of america
@@ursulasmith6402 Thank you very much.
Ah the Netherlands, one of the most beautiful places I ever been to. I am from Germany and when I was in the Army I was stationed in Rheine, we went to the Netherlands often, and not for the drugs but for the country and the people itself. Met some very nice people there that I am still friends with after 28 years. Greeting from Germany!
I was told when we would do trips with our Kindergarten groups, it was so we would all go get "frische Luft" and to experience something new. We went to the Tierpark a lot, which is like a Zoo but in a forrest and it's all local animals for kids to see and feed.
Yep, that's always fun. Means the kids get some contact with nature and they have to move a lot, because Tierparks can be really large.
(And parents usually appreciate getting their kids back happy and dead tired; means they'll be chatting all the way home and then drop dead into bed, giving their parents some much-needed time.)
But surely there's wildlife parks in the US, too?
When my children where young we usually had pizza on Saturday. When they were teenager they suddenly mentioned "We don't want eat pizza anymore. Every week the same is boring". I was suprised because I never expected that.
I worked as Erzieherin and we did a lot of field trips. It is important for children to have as lot of new experiencenes as possible. This is how children learn the best and not by playing every day in the same room with the same toys.
I really enjoyed your video!
My daughter's family moved to Germany 2 years ago. They have a son who just turned six. Because of Covid, they had to put him in the only preschool/daycare that was available. He was in a small school with about 10 children and 2 teachers, none of whom spoke English. He was very quiet at this school for over a year, but a chatterbox at home. He was picking up German and using it. He loved his school, so he wasn't unhappy, but when it was time for him to be assessed for first grade, the teacher wrote that he was non-verbal. They had to have his teacher from his American daycare write a letter telling about his early verbal skills and how well he communicates. That's when my daughter realized that he needed a bilingual school right away. They were lucky enough to be able to transfer him to a much bigger school with teachers that speak both languages. He is one of the only kids who speaks both languages and is helping the teachers with words in both languages. He has English speaking friends and German speaking friends and has never been happier! It has been such a boost to his self-esteem. They decided to have him repeat Kindergarten because he is younger and smaller than the kids his age, which gives him an additional year at this wonderful school. They walk to playgrounds and museums and ride the train to the forest.
Something that my daughter told us is part of the way Germans raise their kids is to let them run errands alone, even as young as 6 or 7-years-old. That kind of freaks me out! They have let him go into a small bakery alone (while they wait outside) and ask for the bread or roll that he wants and to pay for it. I can get on board with this!
In Austria a day trip to Mauthausen KZ is basically mandatory in high-school. This is history that must never be forgotten. Every country has its dark patches in its past (and present) and it is imperative to learn about them. To show the mistakes that were made and the effects they still have on society.
I had two experiences with American children as a child and an adult here in Germany. Once, an American child deliberately ran into me on his bicycle and wanted to fight me. Before that, he was playing around with a knife with some friends. In the second experience, three American youths threw stones at cars and at me as a cyclist. Later I read in the newspaper that they killed a driver with an object they threw from a bridge. They were all sent to prison for 7-8 years.
Well, I haven't had any personal experiences with children in the States, but a friend of mine in CA, keeps on telling me how lound and unbehaved kids in the US, in her neighbourhood are, as well as their parents. In my neighbourhood, street, here in Germany there are quite a few kids up to about 12 years of age, they may be lound once in while, no problem at all because they have been taught manners and their parents also have been taught manners themselves.
7:49 this bit with the error sound... I nearly died laughing 🤣
After the war we even ate cooked potatoe slices (Pellkartoffeln) with salt on bread. Never found Kohlrabi in the States. Walked at least 30 min. to school, barefoot during the summer. At least we all were slim and trim.
Honestly I've never seen a stroller with a baby outside a store or cafe🤷🏻♀️It was actually very common in the former GDR but not nowadays, not a single parent that I know would do that.
Me too.
She said we are misinformed and she put a LMAO on my comment as well. She also said that people confirmed it in any of these comments. I am actually surprised she got a job for anyone German since she is spreading this kind of awkward information.
@@sundayangel5723 From time to time I see people parking their stroller with the baby outside. The crucial point is, that it has to be in line of sight and only a short distance.
Pretty sure this also depends on the neighborhood. I don't see anything awkward here.
@@Crimsonraziel absolutely not true!
@@sundayangel5723 Unless there is a conspiracy with actors pretending to be parents and placing stollers with next-level animatronic babies in front of café windows for reasons I can't think of, please consider the possibility of Germany being bigger than your personal experience.
@@Crimsonraziel I AM German ;-) 100%! Well, this person also says we don’t eat warm :D my American husband knows better than her and wouldn’t make any UA-cam videos. Wrong information of people having a culture shock. Period
Babies sleep outside in Denmark too, all year round. Like institutions have sheds they but them in, so they don't get rained or snowed on in the winter and don't get too much sun in the summer, but that's the norm. Never actually thought about it
Which is so crazy to me as an American.. Maybe not as much now as it was in the past but it was still a shock for me
@@HayleyAlexis Does Germany have forrest schools? If not, try watching a vid or 2 about them if you want another cultureshock^^ Have a great evening
@@lassemadsen607 That would be "Waldschulen", but I think they changed a bit over time from their original "open air school for sickly children". There's Garden Work Schools, too ( "Gartenarbeitsschule"). Similar motivation, but it wouldn't be a school but one of those out-sourced learning locations.
@@Julia-lk8jn It's so fun to learn about all the little differences^^
Here in my place at the North Sea coast we have a "Waldkindergarten"
All vegetables in American restaurants are usually purchased from a single huge corporate supplier, such as Sysco foods and Tyson's chicken. Just until recently they had absolutely no organic items for their bulk restaurant deliveries, all their vegetables were heavily processed and grown using cheapest chemical additives. So no matter where you eat in the US, all vegetables taste like liquid paper without any smell, taste or flavor. Most people compensate lack of quality with salad dressings or deep-frying, but in the reality we just need to improve our food quality.
Dear Haley, that was a very important and interesting perspective! Thank you :-)
Kids in Restaurants... I don't even know what to say. This attitude probably goes back to the Puritans; modern evangelical influence and the prohibition era... Having a meal with a glass of wine in a cultured surrounding definitely sets a good example on how to joyfully and responsibly consume food and drink...
"Outsourcing" kids acivities: We - and many other nationalities - think that it is a very important learning experience for kids to interact with other people, nature, museums, get awareness of your surroundings, to learn how to walk on the street responsibly, get dome exercise, learn to use public transport, how to behave in public, how to light a match, how to cook something simple, how to ride a bike, how to use a knife... So the number of days per month a kindergarden does excursions is actually a great selling point in Germany. Most Kindergardens in the area that I live in make at least one trip in nature per week :-) no matter what the weather is like. Some Kindergardens (Waldkindergarten) are outside wih the kids all the time!
Regarding history: Sometimes I feel kids here learn more in middle school about the transatlantic trade triangle and slavery as well as the genocide on native Americans than the US children do in all of their school. Also, I do find it very disturbing that so many books are being banned from school libraries and curriculums....
I'm sure there would be less craziness going on at American colleges if people were exposed to alcohol sooner and were allowed to drink legally. The combination of little to no experience + illegal drinking is terrible. It's not that binge drinking doesn't happen in other countries, but just being in public makes a difference - for example when someone needs help.
The first time I got flat out drunk I was with my sister at a party. My parents allowed me to go precisely so I could get some experience with it. I only got fully drunk maybe 2 or 3 times later. Never blacked out. Otherwise I can stop whenever I want.
I've heard/read that "eat your vegetables, kids" stuff a lot from Americans. It's also part of pop culture. Never understood it.
Nice video! Being a German mom I never ever would have left my kids in a stroller outside a cafe or ever witnessed someone doing it. So, I wouldn't go for normal here. But of cause there are different experiences. And yes, when a restaurant has a bar it's totally normal that kids can sit there. For us there is no difference between seeing your parent drink a glass of wine or beer at the table where you eat or at the bar. I like your view on dealing with history. As much as we benefit from this to raise awareness it also was installed by the winners of the war. It was meant to keep the German people feel guilty and therefore easy the manipulate even though after decades and generations whose grandparents where kids in the war where still taught to feel guilty and politicians i.e. from the USA still used it against our government.
We look at 18 year old young in USA and are always asking the question about the logic in being able to buy a gun at age 18 but first being able to buy a beer at age 21.
The laws in USA are not exactly logic or practical.
About history, it's actually very simple. If you don't learn your history, both the good and especially the bad, you are destined to repeat the mistakes of the past. If you don't know where we have been as a human race, how should we know where to go in the future?
Great observations. I love your videos
I'm a German and still studying (soon to be apprentice), it's not that our schools don't have the space or can't afford it , it's more that we shear our places with the schools and Clubs because it's easier. We have a Sports field next to our school but the schools near us also use it.
Personally I think it's better for us since we aren't so isolated in our school like in American schools (at least from what I've heard), we get to meet more people and get experience from the real world. For example a class from elementary school (like 5 or 6 years old) went over to it as we had a brake, so we (upper classmates) were playing with them and helping teaching them, cuz why not.
(For example showing them how to do a long jump in the sandbox)
It's just part of our culture, I guess?
That was a really great video. I grew up in Austria, but obviously similar upbringing to German kids. Now I did travel and lived at different places in the world. But for one who’s never changed perspective, this has been very informative and brought me to think things over as well considering the different upbringing me and my American friends experienced. Thank you!
German here. When I was a kid, my mom would make it a special - yet still common - thing, to make buttered bread slices, put some salt, pepper, and onion powder on it, then add halved cherry tomatoes, and cut the bread into bite sized pieces, the size of the cherry tomato halves, and have a whole tray like that, for us to much on while watching a movie in the evening. So we loved that more than frozen pizza, just because it was something special to us. Not special in the ingredients, but a special, cozy moment.
My grandmother would also tell us that Brussel sprouts were doll cabbages, so I've always liked them too, lol. You just gotta know how to sell it.
As for the history teachings, yeah. We also went on a school trip to the Buchwald concentration camp, when I was a kid. I remember there was one room, with a small sign in the back, that you had to go inside, to be able to read the sign. It said that the room used to be used to pile dead bodies in, for later burning. So they lured you into that room, to read the sign, and then have that oompf impact, of realizing where you were standing and what that meant about our history.
... While in contrast to that, when I went to American school for a while, because my stepfather was in the US army, we did fun little plays every year, about how pilgrims and "indians" had a nice thanksgiving dinner together.
Wieder sehr gut erklärt, Hayley
Danke Reiner!!
The general view in Germany is that if youths are responsible enough to vote when they are 18 they should see the potential consequences of casting their vote before they get to that age.
Great video!
In the first and second grade we had monthly hiking days. We learned what herbs grow in the meadows and which ones you can eat, what mushrooms you can eat, what types of trees there are and how to tell them apart. We also learned how to swim in a lake near the school. I must say that I am already very happy that schools in Germany offer such experiences for children.
Learning about history and school is one of the most important things. We watched Schindler‘s list in class for the first time in seventh grade and went to our first concentration camp in sixth grade and I’m really happy we did that. It’s so important to learn about it at a young age.
We just moved to Georgia this year from Washington state. My kids were so shocked to see cotton fields because they thought they were only from the slavery era. There are a lot museums and places to visit here to learn about the underground railroad and civil war. I dont know what they teach in the school here though. But for me and the kids its very new to see history here where we didnt have that in Washington state as far as the slavery era history. As far as American history in school I only remember learning all the Presidents and
Vice Presidents names and how we fought the british.
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Depending on where in Germany you grew up, generally learning about the war (i.e. that it happened and that's that) starts even earlier. When I was a kid in the 90s, we learned about munition safety in primary school. Because of course kids go out to forests or fields to play, and you might stumble upon forgotten munitions or not detonated b*mbs. And of course kids ask why is it there. So we were taught there was a war and people dropped b*mbs and sometimes they are still in the ground, so if you find one, here's what to do. And as the years progress, you learn more about it because it's in a lot of cities still part of everyday life. Oh, why is this building a ruin? War. Why can this construction site not continue? War. Why do we have to make a field trip to a concentration camp? So that dumb highschoolers get educated and there's no fodder for inappropriate jokes or, worse, denial. Imho it's good to be open about it. A hush-hush culture around ANY topic whatsoever will just be a breeding ground for misinformation and irresponsible behavior.
growing up in Berlin it was just "traffic is diverted from area xyz due to a bomb being defused" all the time. just normal german things 😂
Danke für das Video. Mir war gar nicht bewusst das in den USA nicht so über die eigene Vergangenheit Unterrichtet wird. Zu meiner Schulzeit war es bestimmt ein halbes Jahr ein Thema zu Deutschen "dunkelen" Vergangenheit.. Es hieß immer aus der Vergangenheit für die Zukunft lernen. Das mit dem Butterbrot ist halt eine deutsche Esskultur🤣🤣.. Wir haben ja auch das beste Brot der Welt 😉😉
reminded me of an experience several years ago. We were a bunch of famlies who went every year in december to a private forest and cut down some christmas trees. The forest owner had a chainsaw and cut the selected trees while the other adults drank Glühwein and made a nice bonfire and had fun. The kids ran around , the teens had knives and small saws and helped to clean the trees and also mae some sticks to make stick bread - all bye themself. An American couple was shoked when they saw kids with sharpe knives and kids "cooking" on the fireplace while the adults only barely take attention...
When I was at the age of 8 years old my father gifted me with an swiss army knife. I was very proud of it, because it was something special to me. It wasn't allowed at school (understandable) but when I was outdoors I've always had it with me. It was attached to a chain so I wouldn't loose it. It was normal for us boys to have some sort of pocketknives and sometimes you had some small injuries like a cut in your finger, but there were no knifefights or stuff like that. Those were TOOLS and we used them.
What a great over-view !!
And you at all on the point !!
THANK YOU !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@HayleyAlexis ooh ... i enjoy your vids since your (correct me) 1.st drive on German Roads ... or was at Autobahn ?? ... it´a while :-)
Dear Hayley,
thanks for your Video. I think, a lot of societies around the world are living habits, which have had developed over a long period
They seem completely normal, when you growned up with them. For this reason it is fascinating to me to meet (or listen to) people with different backgrounds.
Love your analysis and takes Hayley!! I think you are one of my favorite youtubers talking about experience living abroad. I learn a lot about the US and Germany watching this. As a Norwegian I always find it interesting to learn about all these little details which are similar in Norway to Germany as well as the things which are quite different.
The keeping kids outside in a stroller is very common here in Norway. I did that with my kids. They sleep very well outside in the cold and you don't wan to wake them up. Kids fall asleep easily in a wagon because of the rocking motion and they wake up quickly if you take them out. So if you want some peace and quiet, keep them in the wagon. Gives them fresh air and a good sleep. And yeah, I have never heard about anyone stealing kids. Do people really do that in the US? I am not sure if that is just some strange American paranoia or if it is rooted in actual experiences.
Our kids are also exposed more to the real world I feel. I studied in the US and found American teenagers extremely immature. I noticed when visiting parents and seeing how they got treated, that they were used to being micro-managed and not really managing things themselves. I think we learn to screw up earlier and in a bit more controlled fashion. Americans in college seem to be a trainwreck to me. They do everything they were not allowed to do at home which we spread out over 4 years in just 2 weeks or something. But I kind of get why it is like that in the US. There are few busses, trams, bike lanes or anything to take young people places. The suburbs are just houses. There is nothing to do. When I was a teenager, I walked to town regularly. Went to the book store, bought a pizza, magazine or whatever. I would meet friends downtown to go to clubs or bars. In the US it seems parents got to drive kids everywhere because there is no mixed zoning. Housing is kept very far away from other activities, shops, movies, gyms or whatever.
The bar and alcohol culture you describe in Germany is quite different from ours. We are a bit more moralizing. Drinking age is 18. But unlike the US it is not illegal for children to drink under age. It is illegal to sell alcohol to kids. Your parents could give you alcohol at any age. If I went to a party at 16 and did underage drinking the cops could not arrest me for that. I would not be breaking a law for drinking. Somebody 18 or older serving us would however be in trouble.
Better don’t learn from this person: D
Just because I think you’d like to know about this, preferring veggies to pizza, thats “Intuitive eating” and it’s something it’s starting to trend in Europe when it comes to teaching mindful eating to kids ❤️
You are a breath of fresh air on UA-cam. Thank you so much.
The same thing in Finland. We leave kids sleeping outside, even during winter or when visiting a store. No, they do not get stolen.
Das gute alte Butterbrot. Früher als Kind hätte ich schreiend die Pizza verlangt. Je älter ich wurde umso größer wurde die Liebe zum Butterbrot am Abend.
I think 16 year old's in Europe are more seen as young adults, where in America they are still "only" children.
Another excellent video Hailey!
About the vegetable thing, it is a upbringing thing I would say. When I was a lil´ kiddo, my grandma had this seriously huge garden in the backyard of her house and whenever I went over to her during harvest time, I used to disapear in the greenery with my widdle pocket knife, munching on sweet peas (pod and all), cabbage turnips, carrots and so much more for hours on end, having a grand, old time.
That history thing:
Teaching the truth about history is a very important part. Only if you know about the past, you can make decisions for the future.
The other thing is: the pupils get the awful parts in age appropriate portions.
That's a big thing i will always keep mentioning when it comes to the USA. Staying silent or even lying about the history is stealing opportunities to learn and mature. A lot if problems also occur by lack of knowledge when it comes to culture. This also can be "solved" by teaching facts and showing the different perspectives on them to help understanding each other.
Also: i love watching "i love about (insert country)" or "what shocked me/ what i don't like about (insert country)" because it helps to get a more wider perspective on how countries are seen and helps to avoid the "Betriebsblindheit" (avoiding the blindness for obvious things in plain sight/ wrong doings because 'that's how it always was done')
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Hey Hayley,
Great and interesting video. I do think it’s great that German schools teach so much about antisemitism.
I would like to add one thing that I’d like to criticize about our german history lessons:
The teaching of colonialism and genocide in Africa/western pacific. German schools almost completely neglect the 30 year long history of German colonialism. The topic is not taught at all in some German states and only touched on in others.
Hey Hayley,
just found your Vids today. So much fun to watch.
I didn´t know it was so different in the USA than in Germany.
I don´t know if they already answered that with the kindergarden and kids going places.
Sometimes its for what you said. WIth not having the space for it. But i think its also to make kids aware of the .. behavior on the street.
Also, as i remember it from back in the days, because its just so much fun. See different thnigs and learn more.
BTW. Herzlich Willkommen in Deutschland!!
We learned about our horrible history in school from the age of ten onward. We read books, went to museums, watched documentaries, went to memorials in several courses (German, History, Philosophy, French...) and even interviewed someone who survived the camps as a child. We do this to make sure something like this will never ever happen ever again!
Visiting a concentration camp is actually a mandatory part of the school curriculum in Bavaria, that's why there's so many school groups there.
Here in NRW we did not do them because of the great distance. But we have lots of those reminders scattered everywhere. Called "Stolpersteine". Those are tiny brass Plates infront of houses with the Names, Deathdates and year of departure of the jewish persons living in these houses. Very intresting stuff. Once known, you realize that there have been taken away so many of them just by walking around. Every tiny stone, one ore more of them taken away by Nazi Germany. Sad part of our history. But our responsibility is not the past. We have to take care, that stuff like that will never happen again :)
No. In school I never visited a concentration camp. Maybe I was sick on that day.
Ok that is interesting to know- something I had no idea about! That is good though. Like I said... there was a plantation home (turned into a museum) about 1 hour away from my school (I traveled further for soccer games in highschool) and I never knew about it until recently... which was shocking to me
@@kidgforce1 Where do you live? I just googled it again, and in Bavaria it's definitely mandatory.
Question: do kids learn to Cook in America also? I would think that would help the health issues. We learned to make bread, butter and Jam, in thrird grade, and had regular cooking classes from age 11.
I took home ec classes which taught us how to do basic "household" things like iron, sewing, cooking, fixing a toilet, etc etc. It was an elective course (meaning you did not need it to graduate). I do have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it!
My American education did not include any cooking at schools. I believe one of the schools I went to had one optional home ec ("home economics") class that might of taught a small amount of cooking, but it wouldn't have been the focus of the class. That's all to say that I believe that learning cooking in school in the US is (or at least was) uncommon or rare. I feel like many Americans don't learn how to cook for themselves until they are an adult, unless they happen to have a parent who enjoys cooking and/or puts an effort into teaching their child how to cook.
@@HayleyAlexis I really think home ec should be a mandatory class, and also part of a long series of classes. There are so many things I wish I had learned in school.
Home ec sounds really interesting!
Would be niece if all kids had that, maybe at a young age (8? That's When I first occasionally cooked for my fam) and maybe more often.
We learned the nutrition triangle, vitamins, fats etc very old School and basic. Then cooked lunch together. Risotto, salads, veg fritters, whole fish, different veg, lasagne... nothing revolutionary, but Always from whole foods. Boys and girls together obv. The final exam was cooking a dish alone.
I find cooking too important to fully delegate. Ofc we should learn how to properly do our taxes also, but paying someone else to do them every year is probably not going to harm your health.
The US not doing daily field trips is also about school zoning. Schools are usually far away from any residential or commercial area so taking kids there would involve driving. In the rest of the world schools and daycare are usually in mixed zones with residences and commercial buildings so just walking places is easier.
Yes that is important to note which I forgot to say in the video.. That our infrastructure does not allow it so easily like in Europe
A currently had a fresh white bread with butter and sliced strawberries + a bit sugar, and i also have some Pizza in the frifge, but the bread with seasonal strawberries from my garden tastes much better. It works also with banana slices on white bread. My mother is a fan of herb quark with cucumber slices + salt & pepper.
LOL if you would have told me years ago that I would be eating bred with butter and cucumbers on it... I would never believe you!
@@HayleyAlexis Cucumber sandwiches are wonderful! When I was a kid, and even now, one of my favourite snacks was a raw carrot.
I feel like in Europe we really want to teach kids about the real world from a young age. A bar is nothing scary, when I was like 10 or even younger I remember sitting at a bar drinking hot chocolate :p And field trips as well, in elementary school in Belgium we went inside the coal mines. We even went to the graves of the soldiers that fought in the war, and walk around and in the old trenches. This way history really sticks with you.
@HayleyAlexis if you are 12-14 years old in germany you are considered a teen and expected to make decisions for yourself (at the age of 14 you can even quit religion class without your parents consent needed) and learning about the evil of nationalism and the destrucion we have caused in the past is important. Fun fact, germany is the only country in the world that actually said sorry after it messed up the world.
I think thats also the reason why germany is so divided on actions against russia. We killed 9 millions of them. So learning about the past 2 world wars and a 30 year religious war that ravaged europe before USA even existed is pretty important for our culture.
Yeah that is the official story. Like in East Germany (DDR) in the old days., Talking in the Family is one thing and talking in public is another thing....I have still two Relatives who are in ther 90ys and served in Hitleryouth Division and Leibstandarde. The first husband of my mother were KIA (Killed in Action) 1944 in the East..he also volunteered for the SS. Thank god most of the Kids dont believe these J...BS...on top you have all this nongerman kids in schools who cheer when the German Army is mentioned
Me and my brother would sometimes sit at the bar in the local pizzeria. It was mostly just to be able to look into the kitchen, because it was very interesting to us to look behind the curtain of a restaurant.
To have the activities outsourced of schools actually was quite nice, cause this way I met different kids from other schools! I basically had two friend groups, one with school friends and one with after school activities friends. Also that way you met older or younger kids, you may share interests with that none of your school pals have!
The collar of your shirt drives me nuts 🤣
ME TOO! I was SO ANNOYED when editing the video...
Didn't notice, now I'm starring 😱
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that.
I think the issue with Alcohol is not really the Alcohol. A 4 year old has no idea what I am drinking and thinking back, my grandma always gave me a "Schorle", a small glass half wine and half sprite on Sunday for lunch. I did not become an alcoholic, so I think exposing kids to it from an early age will be better as there is no need to find substitutes and move straight to stronger drugs. I always wonder what do 17-20 year olds do in the US? They cannot go into a bar and have fun or lose steam, not able to go into a nightclub and dance the night away and when you are 21, many might have a family already, loosing those 3 years to do crazy things which you should to learn the reality of life.
I think getting 4 year olds used to the taste of alcohol by mixing it with sweet things is really risky, similar to making tobacco easier to consume by mixing it with substances which suppress the natural reflext to cough . Developing brains plus alcohol? Sounds unwise.
Teenagers I think are a different thing, they can already understand that a substance can wreck their body and mind, and taking a sip of beer or wine so alcohol isn't this huge fascinating mystery makes sense.
In the end, I think the biggest factors are the example our parents set to us, how they communicate with us and whether we find something valuable or important in our life so there's no need to fill it with some addiction or other. But in the end, there's no 100% protection against a child growing up and getting addicted; that's one of the many things that makes parenthood so scary.
My mom works as something called “childrens lawyer” (translated literally) and her job is basically to do physiological work to determine what the child wants/ is best for the child in custody battles and stuff. She once had a case where an American woman working and living in Germany was battling her husband for custody over her child and my mom was working with both parents and the woman was like “It’s my child I will sue” and my mom got to tell her that’s not how we roll in Germany, if the Familiengericht (family court) decides the father is the better guardian for the child, based on the child’s wishes and her evaluation of the parents, there’s nothing she can do about it
about concetration camps - they are favorite destinations for any school group with teenagers and up from different europe countries if they visit germany, i remember visiting it when i was 15
My bavarian kids (4 and 6) love raw vegetables! They eat away at the carrots, peas and cabbage in the garden like they were caterpillars 🤭
Yeah someone wrote in a comment down below that they serve raw vegetables/fruits at kids birthdays and I had to laugh because this is seriously something that is NOT common in the USA... AT ALL!
@@HayleyAlexis such a shame. There's nothing better than raw veggie sticks and Kräuterquark to dip 😋
@@HayleyAlexis Exactly! If you cater a birthday and don't offer carrot sticks etc. but only candy you are considered a low-education family (to say the least). And in Germany many people actually do plant veggies in the garden or on the balcony. Nothing better than to show the children how our foods grows and gives them incentives to help themselves. Whenever I read about US HOAs (Home Owner Associations) forbidding people to plant other things than lawn and ornamentals in their gardens I get sad and angry. A big disconnect between consumers and their food source is one reason of bad food choices and overweight.
It's a pity considering that Florida actually has a pretty interesting and colourful history compared to other places in the US. Not nice arguably, but interesting.
That was exactly the point I wanted to make... We have such interesting gems hidden in Florida that are NEVER talked about in our curriculum. Not even with slavery but the history of the USA.
@@HayleyAlexis
Is there any state specific curriculum at all? One that adds things, not removes them mind you. With Spanish Florida you literally have one century more interesting history to discuss than even some East Coast states.
Just read a little bit and the US don't look very good in it as soon as slavery comes up, oof.
My high school overseas didn't have a field for P.E. so we for outdoor sports, we rode our bikes to the another campus. Had one classmate who didn't have a bike so she was excused on those days. We didn't have substitute teachers. If a teacher was sick or changed jobs, we either didn't have class for that hour or the teachers reorganized the schedule so our school day was shorter. My school days were at least 5 hours and up to 8 hours on P.E. days (2 hours, once a week). The schedule looked more like college. I think it depends on the location in the U.S. on history. Some of my teachers did directly address their history such as needing to go North for college during segregation.
Wow,wirklich tolles Video. Vielen lieben Dank für deine ehrliche Meinung und klaren Worte ! ❤️
Bar culture...
When workers getting their "Lohntüte", their pay envelope, it was a bundle of cash money at the end of the week.
Many men would take the money and have beer in a bar after work, sometimes more than they should.
I would say it was not uncommon that the wifes would send the kids into the bar to enforce a little guilt in daddy and get him and the housekeeping money home.
Hiking to a destination in the forrests or field, was often a bar / restaurant you went to with the whole family.
He had at least 5 lodges / cottages however you want to call it outside the city where you had to walk between 1 or 2 hours from the city that served food, beer, cake and so on.
This was the kind of weekend entertainment Germans had from the outgoing 19th century up to the 1970's in some places.
So having your family / children in a bar is normal to our culture.
Great video as usual, although calling 14-17 year olds "kids" is a bit weird 😅 They're teenagers, not little children!
Yeah!
I almost wrote a comment on children at Biergartens before I realized my mistake!
Languages are different!
To many of us, children are pre-teens or pre-pubertal. But maybe this isn't really proper English.
'kids' is used for children as well as teenagers in American English.
That is a language difference LOL
Like @Grandma k said- kids in US English is pretty much a collective word for anyone under 18 ... heck my mom still refers to me as a kid (and I am 30).
@@grandmak. Ah good point, I guess that makes more sense in this regard 😄
I still call 20-year olds for kids - but heck, i’m old too 😂
My 3rd to 4th grade teacher was also my elementary schools vice principal, so he could approve his own field trips.
And oh man did we have many field trips... At least once every season we walked to the botanical garden to observe the seasonal flora, we've seen age appropriate plays in the theatre, we mapped all streets in our district, we walked through the parks, hiked the woods, seen historical sights, animal habitats and always "conveniently' found a playground on such trips, we went sledding on days with enough snow, we went to the public pool most days that would result in a heat day anyway, got in with cheap school class admission and with a slip from our parents were allowed to stay the rest of the opening hours after the teacher went home.
I think that was quite great.
If I remember it well, the visit to Dachau within the context of history lessons for the kids in and around Munich is during the ninth grade, that`s around 14 years.