2023 Toyota HiLux Rogue (inc. 0-100, off-road, autonomy & reverse test) review
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- Toyota has surprised everybody by introducing a wider, totally revised Toyota HiLux called the 2023 Toyota HiLux Rogue and Paul Maric has put it to the test across a number of disciplines - on road, off-road and even in reverse!
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior 1:05
Interior 6:35
Infotainment 7:52
Safety tech 9:03
Practicality 10:02
On the road 13:04
0-100km/h 17:32
Off road 19:21
Verdict 26:31
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Thanks Paul. Finally the review is here and is the best yet again
I have just purchased one, Easily the best Hilux to date thanks Paul for the great review I never knew how great the update was until this popped up on my UA-cam feed 👍🏼
It's marine grade carpet and hence nothing like what you would find in a bathroom. I think it's a fantastic idea especially as you can put all your luggage in their and not worry about sliding around too much
then you want to transport sand or turf or something....
It depends on the use you are making of the vehicle indeed. They should give you a choice. If it were up to me, there would be no carpet at all, not even on the floors. They are really hard to clean up.
@Dylan Sands believe it or not but most people DONT carry loose sand and dirt in their style side ute. They just don't.
Also this "carpet" is a bed rug that is non-reactive, hard wearing, oil and stain resistant and mould resistant. It's tough as hell. If you really want to carry dirt for some reason, the tub isn't very large you could just lay a tarp.
@@dylansands21 who loads sand in a top spec Ute? Pay someone to deliver it for you!
@@dylansands21 pretty certain you would use a trailer for sand? I'd rather rust out a $2k trailer than a $80k ute .
Hilux always my dream car love it 😊
Carpet in the tray is a great idea. Good sound deadening for when things are sliding about 👍🏻
Sand has entered the chat
Absolutely. And your groceries stay put!!
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
In South Africa, we have been treated to a special derivative. Gazoo Racing Sport (GR-S) with 165 KW & 550 NM. The carpeted bakkie tray is a total no for me. It should be rubberized with at least 7mm coating.
But that is still less than the old Amarok, have a power of close or 190kw and 500Nm.
My old 2011 2.5 4x2 Hilux is still running good with 500,000++ km . Heavily used in construction with No engine and suspension issues. Durability, load capacity and availability of parts everywhere in the Philippines makes the Hilux the No1 choice and No1 in sales. My new 1 is the 2020 Hilux Conquest 4x2.
I am a picture framer and love the idea of the carpet in the tub plus the security of the roller top. The wide wheel base would enhance towing of my caravan. I reckon that there could be a Rogue in my future.
Excellent review - you covered the content very well. Thanks Paul and well done!
In terms of interiors Toyota really is one of the most unadventurous car manufacturers out there.
Just picked up my new rouge. For me it’s a big upgrade from my 2019 rouge. Loving the new hilux rouge
I test drove one and decided to trade my 2020 Ranger Wildtrak for the Rogue. I’m not that into the tech of the new Ranger but the Hilux reliability reputation has won me over
Did you test drive a ranger also?
@@DaveoAU yes I did although it was a Bi-turbo not the V6. Big improvement from the previous model but the tech and digital display screens aren’t my thing
You mean the hilux reliability of faulty dpf and air box’s that don’t seal properly? 🤣
@@nrx963 you obviously haven’t owned a Ranger then. 😂
Agreed my old ranger blew up unfortunately
They have certainly thrown some mechanical updates at it. Actually I don’t mind that marine carpet in the tray, I put some on top of my spray in bed to stop stuff slipping around, so not as silly as it first looks in my opinion.
Toyota is like Apple, they roll out new features and upgrades slower than competitors, but they do it right, whereas Ford etc rush in and make a lot of changes without properly testing them and then do recalls.
Lol. Toyota have no recalls? You sure about that?
Yeah rolled out those DPF issues nice and slow. How many motors did they manage to fuck up before the owned their mistake? Toyota just coast on their reputation while other manufacturers push the segment further.
Toyota Tacoma has had so many recalls it’s not funny
300 series intake manifold and snorkle not sealed properly. Dust gets into engine, turbo bearings gone. $17 000 repair on a 5 years old car. And that's if you don't go into deep water, otherwise, water gets into the engine at the base of the snorkle straight into the engine.
But you are right, no recall.
Apple is way more premium. Toyota is like Samsung. Sometimes it blows up.
I hope I get one of these one day. Dream car!
Great review, thank you!
Great thorough review, thanks!
I love the carpet in the tray, I don’t carry anything really abrasive just camping, shopping, fishing gear and the odd Bunnings trip, and I think that is what its designed for, I hope Toyota keep the carpet on next gen
yeah i agree but it’ll be cool if there’s an option for carpet or the standard tray
@@zac9155that would be way better
Purchased a new Rogue a couple of weeks back. Very impressed with the enhancements (vs a 2020 Rugged X). Drive is far superior. Biggest surprise was no price increase!
how's the ride, was it bumpy?
Had my Rogue for a few weeks now and it has been awesome. My only complaint is the jolty lane keeping assist which I've turned off. It will be good for long highway runs though if I'm worried about falling asleep.
@@gutadin5 yes, fyi it is bumpy as toyota upgraded the suspension for off road reason.
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
A brilliant video
Throughly enjoyed that
That’s a good looking rig with the increased width, front end looks great. A shame the tech is so out dated. Great review as alway Paul.👍
Now that Toyota has lot of cars based on TNGA platform, I think Toyota is developing the successor, therefore you'll see lack of changes on the interior and dashboard. Toyota has TNGA-F platform which can be accommodated for a pickup truck like Hilux.
Sell your hilux and go buy a Ford ranger
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
Talked to few people in Australian regional, asked them what ute they prefer, they said no other brands have yet to built like the quality and reliability of a toyota
Isuzu Dmax is extremely reliable awesome engines
"yawn" and these people have only ever driven toyota
Great Reviews!
I love the carpet. I carpeted my old BT50 for the dog to ride in the back .
Thanks for the review
Great review Paul. This ute remains the King esp here in Afrika. As utes get more techie I worry as here in Afrika very few countries will have the tech support needed. So the Hilux and its brothers the 70 Series are good for us when they leg behind on tech.
toyotas are number one everywhere for good reason, the taliban virtually defeated the worlds greatest army with hiluxs and ak 47's
Have had one for over 12 months. The Android car play is really good, and the maps and voice command work great. The carpet in the back is really good. It stops all your luggage sliding around, and you take it out when you need to. The push button roller tub cover is very good. The ride is really nice. I prefer to drive it on trips than my merc. Breaking is really good with all-around discs. Fuel efficiency has been 10.3 ltte per 100 combined. On highway ive had it down to 9.8 sitting on 115kph. Beach driving is great with 15psi front 16psi rear. Towing my jayco pop top with it is very easy. With full load in tub and van fully wet and loaded. I was watching a car designer talk the other day on UA-cam. He summed it up very well. The simpler the car, the longer it lasts. You don't need the diff lock. Traction control works very well. Put a set of all terrains on it, and it is very good. I dont like the hand brake. It rolls forward a little bit when you come off the brake. You have to be wary of it.
Totally agree with you about the carpet. I had the previous model rogue about changed to a rugged x this year. Tub liner in the rugged is so much more practical. Toyota should have fitted the centre led light bar from the rugged onto the rogue, looks like it already has the cutout in the front bumper for it. Excited for the rugged replacement.
Strongly disagree about the carpet. It's extremely useful, it keeps objects from sliding around. No one is carrying loose dirt or gravel or compost around in any style side ute let alone a ute that has a roller cover so let's stop pretending.
I've been using my Rogue tray for carting large boxes and groceries, pet supplies and garden equipment and it is has been great. Very easy to clean too. If you're wanting a different tray liner the carpet comes out very easily, it's only attached by Velcro.
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
Depends what your using it for. I've found the heavy duty carpet extremely useful. Items don't slide around as much or get damaged or scratched. How many people are buying their Rogues as a tradies vehicle? Not many! And the ones who are usually remove the tub and install a tray with steel canopy or racks.
@@SunFlower-ts9owyes!
Pavl..will this new wider track model rogue will pass the moose test?as we all know hilux fail this test before with standard track..
The GR Hilux has been released in South Africa. Has everything this one has but with increased power output. Wen't from 150kw to 165kw and more torque as well. Same engine but just tuned to give better performance
Thanks again Paul - although I’m quite happy with my 2010 diesel Hilux this new Rogue version brings promise for the next Gen competitor for the new Ford Ranger - the wider track has definitely improved handling despite the hopping - so it’s a step in the right direction with larger disc rotors but get rid of the silly impractical tub carpet - I expect a larger body, V6 diesel for towing, Rogue specs and more attention to rear cup holders etc and tailgate assistance will help to improve a good ute - fire engine red duco for me please.
Carpet is a great idea. Stops scratches using basic things like suitecases etc, ease to knee on, can put a swag on. Easy to add a rubber mat if you want. I mean is not a tradie version aka SR5 is it?
the pricing in Aussie is insane, here in New Zealand this hilux (rogue/cruiser) is 64k, while a v6 ranger wildtrak is 82,500, so $18k cheaper. but damn only 1k cheaper in Aussie??? crazy
Yeah, noticed that. Not sure why there's such a large difference in price here in NZ. Recently my dad went out shopping for a new truck. He test drove the Hilux SR5 Crusier (Rouge) and V6 Wildtrak, he ended up getting the Ford. The SR5 Cruiser is quite a good deal I'd say, just wished it had an engine to compete with Ford's V6.
@@dallasfrost1996 ITS ABOUT 76K IN AUS WITHOUT EXTRAS (10% GST)
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
Good day Paul, first of all I like to say I value your expertise when it comes to 4x4 utes, and watched most of you tests and comparisons over the last 12 months, thanks for doing that by the way, there are a lot of us that really need some good advice, and yes you are the one I would ask.
Ok, having said that,,,I am currently looking at buying a new Hilux, preferably a Rougue,,,yes I have looked at the Nissan Warrior and Ford Ranger Raptor,,,I am really having a hard time deciding what step to take next,,,I love the Raptor,,,but then, I am thinking about the servicing cost and maintenance in comparison to the vehicles I just mentioned, ,,,,I am retiring within the next few months and I really would love your advice.
My plans for 2024 are to explore Cape York, then head west from there towards W.A., the plan is to explore and enjoy the outback, my main concern is the cost in regards to servicing and maintaining,,,I really need a break down between the Hilux Rougue, the Ford Raptor and Nissan Warrior,
I understand you are busy guy Paul, but any advice would be appreciated, And most of all I love watching your reviews, I know it helps me and others have a better understanding,,,thanks mate, all the best for 2024
I have marine grade carpet in my garage..best thing ever..fan of it in this rouge for what I'd use it for.
They can widen the track of a random limited edition hilux, but can't haven't been able to widen the rear track of the 70 series V8 for over 15 years
70 doesn’t have any real competition so they don’t have to 😂
Is it a detuned version of 3.3L V6 going into Hikux GR???
If the track in wider they could’ve made tub fit a pallet.
Great Review, good upgrade to rest of its class but interior 2010. They upgraded the suspension, track,rear brakes, what about the GCM & GVM values? Can it really tow 3500kg, maybe it’s the carpet that lets it.
I think this is test mule for next gen as previous Toyotas, small increments then change the body & frame.
The vehicle had a Redarc electric brake controller fitted in the video. Was that after market fitted or standard?
Which of the three midsize pickup trucks listed will you give 1 seat to? Toyota hailax, ford ranger raptor, mitsubishi l-200?
toyotas last forever, they find something that works and stick with it, theyve always been that way and is probably why they are the worlds number one automotive manufacturer
And this test is so important for a work vehicle...... what a DH.
I don’t hate the carpet idea. I wouldn’t have it in my ute but I can see why it would be of benefit for those using as a long boot family sedan. Good to see Toyota reacting to the market leader, the next gen can’t come soon enough for them.
They have carpet on boats?
@@rudiger86 They do.
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
So I'm Canadian, we have a fair amount of SUVs here, I drive a CX-30, but nothing compared to the dual cab utes like you have in Australia. Kinda shocked on that as we do have a lot of remote areas in Canada.
I bet you aren’t paying $175 thousand for an F150, all we have is small pickups for just under $100 grand, otherwise Ram, Chevy, Ford Ranger Raptor, F 150, anything from $109 thousand to $200 thousand bucks. Most imported as left hand drive from factory and pulled apart and rebuilt here in oz. We are robbed blind.
I like the carpet in the tray
Look up “bedrugs” Paul very popular in the US trucks. It’s a plastic system carpet that’s oil, dirt, fuel “proof” material. I had one there great.
The wider tryrw track and flares are a great improvement on what was getting old . It always looked slim and under fed until now. The Hilux however is screaming for a new interior and tech upgrade. Need the new generation now. That will be nice
Agreed the wider track is great, but Toyota have fallen for the old mistake of taking the cheap & nasty way out with too many stick-on plastic body bulges.
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
I’d would really like to see Toyota Racing Development (TRD) arrive in Australia. It would definitely ruffle feathers in multiple car classes. Things like the Camry TRD, Tacoma, Tundra & 4Runner. Or maybe even a GR Hilux or Hilux TRD Pro.
I think TRD is eventually going to be phased out in favour of GRsport brand.
I have seen plenty of TRD W16 Quad turbo Camrys here. They are call Ubers. They go at incredible speeds in all sorts of traffic.
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
What a awesome 👌 pick up love it
is it just me or does it look like a strut spacer at 2:22min rather than a longer strut to allow for the wider track force?
For that price, they should be doing better with the interior and screen. Its a real turn-off for me. However, I love the colours they are offering the exterior in.
nice review I’ve got one of these 23 rogues in Saturn blue (12000 kms in 3 months and it’s a dream. It drives great. The interior is dated I admit but I not one to fuss. My best mate has a 23 raptor and I’ll admit my hilux just doesn’t compete in driving dynamics and features. But throwing on a set of falken wild peaks instead of those horrible grandtrek road tyres it is just the best off-road. I just don’t like how the locking diff is only in 4 low. But to conclude if the raptor didn’t have a 2 year wait list I would have gotten one but having lived with the hilux and never stressing over reliability and haven’t regretted my choice + it’s great to live with ( I am 19 so a ride isn’t that big of an issue). An assisted tailgate would be nice tho as I use I’d a lot for work and opening and closing the tailgate while holding materials is tough.
Great review
U own a 23 rouge? Aren't they 78k drive away? 19 year old ..wow nice
Would be great to see if cars have remote windows in your reviews! Something I use all the time 😂
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
5:13 my 2014 Amarok has a BedRug in the back of it, same with my dad’s 2022 W580 Amarok (both are paired with a canopy). For us it’s mainly because our dog rides in the back of the bed, as well as not scratching the bed. Carpet in a Ute bed isn’t a bad idea, it depends on your use case on whether it’s a good idea or not
I see a lot of people rave about the tank lining (BedRug) but I think there will be an odor problem, if not cleaned regularly. In Vietnam we often use plastic pads. You can copy the keyword: Tấm lót thùng hilux . Sorry I'm not good at English
Exciting Paul about the 2023 Hilux it did well you said it needs do you have technology and drive train and don’t forget about the design of the ninth gen Hilux Will it beatFord Ranger or not
Im not big on Toyota or Ford but to me personally if I could afford these crazy prices the Ford V6 would be what I take home. Kudos to Toyota to try and improve the older model but the V6 has just moved the game to far ahead, thats if its reliable 😜😜
Def needs an update interior. However they are reliable as hell, and have good resale value.
Fit for purpose.
Can’t really go wrong with a Toyota.
With the wider track does it pass the moose test ?
They should’ve made the rugged X wide like this. Is there a way you can make the rugged x wide like this? What would I have to change?
Dam it, i want a Rogue👍
I will get one of these pick ups :)
Can I import this into South Africa? Looking forward to having these this side.
The Rogue is pretty looking good.
Is this called N80 ? If buying parts for it what do u cal it
19:25 - see a sneaky Jimny hiding in the background there....
Great review. Collect mine tomorrow after 9 months...long wait but your review confirms that the change should definitely be worth it. Maxxis AT's going on. Just need ARB to get their accessories sorted.
It needed the cruiser300 tdv6 in it with fox shocks and a update screen with digital instrument cluster
The wheel arch cladding isn't to protect the wheel from debris, but to protect pedestrians from being hit by the wheel and dragged under it. Try registering a vehicle in Australia with protruding wheels.
I believe the carpet adds on beauty and reduces on noise.
@carexpert do a review on the rocco please
Can the carpet be removed easily? It looks like it can
Paul, can you please do a review of SEA Electric Hilux conversion to EV?
wish we could get it in US looks awesome
Paul how about mercedes sprinter or the Volvo?
I think the carpet is a clever idea because it protects the bin
The navara, hilux and triton need to bring out a new generation. They’re wayyy too expensive for an old ute
Weren’t you in South Africa a few days ago?
This will be the last real bakkie, all else will be modern softies with too
much entertainment gadgetry. Great review. Mine on order
If you have a cam, let it be a good one, if ypu have LED lights, they should be good one ... No one excpects from Hillux to be as name says "lux", but some basic tech in 21 century is "must".
When is the new 2023 Kia carnival review coming out?
Do a comparison with the new wildtrak
Carpets make sense in terms of keeping the load from sliding around like on the hard plastic liner. Like the wider body look.
Carpet in the back probably suppresses the road noise to a degree, but totally inappropriate for any Australian application/environment.
Hilux looks so much better than the rest of the utes…still my favourite.
Can't wait for the next gen hilux
Wait for the next gen SR5 that will probably incorporate most of this and a refreshed interior
This new Rogue is good but I wonder if it will go the way of the Rugged X - deleted.
I've had 8 Toyota's, a number of Suzuki's, Subaru's and an Isuzu. The Toyota's have all had things go wrong on them. Had barely an issue with the others.
And the resale is simply a reflection on what you are paying upfront.
is the ford ranger platinum better than the Hilux?
we have a similar variant in malaysia with a very different look of course i saw this hilux they are everywhere
Variant ni ada di Malaysia dah? Yg ni lebar sikit kan?
@@TYT695 yes it's very different the wheel arches the head unit along others but everything else is the same only wheels and the colour which is exclusive to this variant
I wonder if this Hulix, is using the next generation TNGA chassis, which explains the wider track and changes to the suspension, e.g. the rear damper sitting outward of the chassis rails, which are changes that are not normal for a car still within it’s generation. If this is the case then Toyota is using the Rogue to findi out what journalists think of how the car drives and handles, before releasing the next generation Hilux and make any small changes they need to make that most journalists find in common that they feel could be improved.
Can we order a left hand drive?
With the updated Prado coming i won't be surprised if the interior of the Hilux gets a huge revamp to look similar to that style of interior.
Are we up to coil overs yet??
Something about the hills just seems very old, definitely needs a new generation. Even the px3 ranger looked newer on the interior
Is it better than a wildtrak? 2023
I honestly don’t reckon the carpet is a bad option. I know it’s not for everybody it’s not practical if you’re using it for work and carrying wood and stuff in the back of your Ute but this is the (top of the line) and I reckon most people will be carrying golf clubs or a surfboard which the carpet is probably a better option then standard plastic tub liner
In comparison, my MY21 Rogue looks pedestrian. Nothing different mechanically to the SR5, similar/same capabilities, just the "fluff" (which honestly, the roller cover was the main thing I wanted). I'd buy one of these if i was in the market (with only 11k km's, I'm clearly not) just for blicnd spot monitoring and increased track. Like you said, this bodes well for the next gen.
Try EGR rolltrac. Its what toyota has got as well.
@@soan09 I have one, thanks for your thoughts tho
Order the new one you’ll get great resale on yours once your new one arrives
12:22 do the rear ac vents blow good amount of air?
2021 2.8 auto, x-cab, invincible with a canopy and 400 kg in the tray and I can average 9-9.2\100km city/hwy.
Exclude highway and only country roads = 7.6 - 8.8.
Hey Paul, if you put the DAC on and then put it in S1 (push the gear shifter right and pull down to S1) & in H4 the car will crawl down much slower, not sure why it doesn't hold it slower in full auto but it can go slower in h4. Found that out whilst sliding down an icy hill recently, thank god it works, saved me :D
So
Rear disc brakes is awesome upgrade hope dmax bt50 triton ect start to follow.
Taillights still annoy me they could make the brake light led aswell or redesign it to be similar to say the dmax where its parker and brake lights. Its got a led reverse light... put the indicator at the top and revese light at the bottom so can upgrade to a brighter reverse light.
Good to see its got an egr dust defender
Carpet its nice but only if you doing say trips with a suitcase ect its more like a manager driving round checking on workers type car. Loading pushbikes and even car parts oil ect. Its not gonna look good for too long.
Its not bad updates but toyota still lacks in odds and ends in my opinion
Can you please review the Mercedes Benz GLC 300e?