Big thanks to ZenMarket for sponsoring this video! Do you guys think Saitama has earned the rematch with Goku? Or do you think he's still not there yet? Comment! Edit: For those confused about the video style, here's an explanation. The video is a collab style video, I don't do collabs anymore on the main, but I agreed to for this one. Noodles and I have vastly different scaling's on both Naruto and Saitama. That is why the video is split in multiple parts and goes over such a vast array of ways to interpret their strength. I'd say all in all, I consider Naruto and Saitama a lot more on the weaker side presented here, whereas Noodles would be more on the stronger side. I think both ways are worth thinking about though. Have a wonderful day. 2: For those that don't know what existence erasure is, it is not the same as warping space or ignoring it. Imagine more of a DoodleBob from SpongeBob, erasing your soul and your being, not the space or essence about you. All things in existence generally warp gravity and space somewhat. The TSO do not operate via conventional scaling or durability and more evidence needs to be gathered to prove a resistance, an assumption based on tropes isn't enough.
I prefer Stan Lee's "how would the writers make the fight" over these power scaling calculations the writers are not thinking that deeply into. Goku vs Saitama will result in a draw no matter what form or when the fight takes place. Because their characters are written to be a certain way. Goku's durability feats will always be contradicted by Toriyama style who would indicate that Moro's galaxy wide explosion would of taken out Goku and Vegeta. "How would the writer make it" is better than fan calculations.
Before the Saitama vs Garou fight, I would've tought Naruto wins. But yeah no, Saitama no diffs unless you use weird arguments to say Naruto is universal
A few years ago I'd agree with you, but now that I'm getting into power scaling, I now think that universal Naruto is no longer wank, especially after Momoshiki's introduction. I think he's blatantly universal by the time Naruto transforms into Baryon mode. Isshiki literally sent them to a parallel universe where Konoha never existed. Universal Naruto is not as consistent as Universal Ichigo but it's definitely not a weird argument.
@@SawyerFan.1 buddy, the problem with that argument is that Kaguya being universal isn't concrete. We don't exactly how large Kaguya's dimensions actually are, they're only vaguely around solar systems. However, Universal Naruto scaling is more concrete in Boruto.
Man I love Naruto but there's no way he wins. Saitama slams. What's Naruto's equivalent of Saitama casually catching two dimensional slash with his damn fingers, slashes which are outside the causality of the universe?
@@noodlesyoutuber Bruh, let my boy Naruto rest where he is currently. Within Kawaki's dimension. At this point Mumen Rider would be a better opponent for him. And you didn't answer my question.
@@noodlesyoutuber Did you watch the video? Put a time timestamp where the OP talks about EV and the dimension slash. That's right he didn't. The mental gymnastics you guys do is beyond me. There is reason we pit Saitama against Goku.
They used to glazed Naruto to universal, now they want glaze him to multiversal. But yet to show any feat that puts Naruto anywhere close to any of those scaling.
There is a feat in boruto anime, Naruto in Base form crack the space across the universe and those cracks reach Kaguya's dimension, cracking space across universe is a universel level feat and Naruto has done that in Base form with his presence alone
@@worldbosspf1 time manipulation techniques didn't always work like that, the techniques Saitama could use (or maybe he had forgotten it) will end up creating a difference time line, Naruto would be alive in his own time line and saitama would win against kid naruto in different time line, which techniqualy is not a win against boruto naruto
The one punch panel of stars in the sky being wiped out by a punch is mad (especially is overanalysed) as even with faster than light attacks, it would still take millions of years to see the damage. Implying he destroyed the space itself between there and the stars.
It'd take millions of years for the CHARACTERS to see the damage, not US, the VIEWERS of the story. We aren't inside the story, therefore the laws of reality don't apply to us.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 You're implying that fictional characters abide the laws of reality when reality manipulation, time hacks, and something as basic as being faster than the speed of light is the norm 😭
@@lancetheking7524 All I got to say is that it would explain why NOBODY reacted to the fact that an ENTIRE segment of space just CEASED TO EXIST after the energy of the clash was redirected. I'm not trying to debunk OPM scaling or anything, I'm just trying to help explain shit tbh...
Somewhere around 34:00 you say something about the distance of a star that us humans can perceive. You forgot that it was a space view panel. Which means we see farther because there is no atmosphere blocking our view. Which only makes this feat even more impressive.
Saitama literally held a dimension slash that negates distance and erases anything it touches. Truth seeking orbs ain’t doing shit. Plus he can even hold hyperspace gates.
honestly i'm very very disappointed, saitama just need one finger to wank naruto to existence, Immune to 5D power level of attacks is even suprior than superman prime one milion feat
@@SawyerFan.1 Its more than enough to counter the hax in Naruto. Also you skipped the part where broke into pocket dimensions. Fact is that he can interact with and manipulate space time itself. Aswell as interact with pocket dimensions and higher dimensions. That at the very least matches the hax in Naruto.
To be fair here, the Dimensional slash catch reallyyyy isn't all that impressive when you have weaker characters like Kakashi and Obito opening portals, and Teen Naruto touching and interacting with his own soul, also grabbing portals like Saitama, and literally swabbing hands with clones that exist in a separate plain of existence. But I agree, I do think Saitama may be able to at the very least touch a TSO if even Base SO6P Teen Naruto can. But then again it could just be a divine hax thing only for six path characters.
Latest chapter proves that nothing can stop Saitama anymore. As someone who doesn't even like the character, you have to admit that he crushes Naruto quite easily.
This video doesn't mention saitama's literal hax. He kicked away a portal which shouldn't even be possible, and the most recent chapter with empty void he just literally defies all physics
@ you shouldn’t be able to interact with a portal at all but naruto does it so this doesn’t matter, just because saitama kicked it and naruto ripped it open it doesnt mean anything
@@baconboy-robloxmore2684 Naruto Uzumaki’s power in significantly throughout the series, reflecting his growth and feats. Early on, in Part I, he’s ranked City Block level (8-B) due to basic abilities enhanced by Kurama’s chakra, allowing him to unleash powerful but limited attacks. As he progresses into Part II, his power rises to Mountain level (7-A) and even Island level (6-C) during battles like the one against Pain, thanks to Sage Mode and partial control of Kurama’s chakra. In the War Arc, Naruto becomes a powerhouse, achieving Small Planet level (Low 5-B) with Six Paths Sage Mode and full Kurama synchronization. By the New Era, as the Seventh Hokage, this level is consistent, supported by his mastery of chakra and continued scaling alongside god-tier characters like Sasuke and the Ōtsutsuki clan. Naruto’s rankings are based on feats like destroying meteors, clashing with god-like entities, and protecting the entire Shinobi Alliance. His steady progression from novice to one of the strongest shinobi in existence shows why he is consistently ranked among the top tiers in the Naruto universe.
That wouldn’t happen because saitama isn’t a gag character. He only does this to enemies that he’s stronger than because that’s his gag, not that him being a gag character makes him the strongest in his verse. If he meets his match he won’t be doing that to their attacks, just like against garou who was punching his face in, even though garou was still weaker than saitama
He strong, but not even close to one above all. There are plenty of characters who casually do extradimensional feats, he isn't really special in that regard. As of now, he would still get clapped by higher tiers.
Y'all saitama dickriding "one punch man🤡" are hella mad that a cute blondie ninja can casually eradicate Saitama existence with one attack deal with it and keep downplaying Naruto with yours headcanon fanfiction rage bait
Seth did you not make it to the recent chapters of the manga or are we ignoring it? Because Saitama fought a man who could jump out of the dimension and attack people from outside the dimension and when that man swinged his sword Saitama caught it.
@@worldbosspf1 we said the highball and the lowball, and saitama on his high end is higher dimensional which is accurate, on the low end of you don’t believe in the higher dimension stuff he has planetary and multi galaxy feats idiot that’s why. The lowball was never “planetary to large planetary. It was large planetary to multi-galaxy”
Everyone saying he’s giving Naruto the win either hasn’t watched the video or is completely ignoring the fact that they are admitting that Saitama can blitz him
That boros and physco ororchi low ball to multi continental is crazy when orochi was literally able to generate small planetery level of energy with his Gaia canon and he is literally fodder to them
(1) The space EV accesses is a 5D space. There is no contention about this and those who do can respectfully GET OU- - Blast mentions in chapter 197 that EV's dimesion slash ignores distance, size and energy. To even do this you would need to be a 5D being in existence. Some people have contentions with this which I will clarify - EV in ch 209 is suprised that the dimension slash stopped moving as nothing can stop a blade that cut through space itself, subsequently meaning he can cut through space-time as well. - Blast on numerous occasions says that the plane EV accesses is higher dimensional - The new official chapter translations confirm that the dimension slash strikes regardless of the targets distance, size or energy. But now the main important change int he translation is how Bladt specifies that the SCALE of the slash depends on the user not the property of ignorance. - Some people try to debunk the 5D argument via miscallenious evidence like them showing a tesseract when mentioning EV's slash. This is a dumb argument simply due to the fact that, that isn't even an actual 4D object, but rather the 3D shadow of a 4D hypercube. Why did Murata use this as an example? Simply because that's the most common association with higher dimensions in general. Not because he "thinks the space is 4D," Or even intended for it. - He is outside of cause and effect which we know in OPM via Saitama's 0 punch being called reversal of causality ounch or what not that time is an element ot cause and effect in OPM like most other verses. We even have direct references to Relativity. (2) Cosmology: Regarding the cosmology, assuming we're only talking about the universes in totality, all of them are at minimum Multi+ and likely Low 1-C via the degree of freedom present in the branching of said universes and realizing new universes and also assuming the GCH (General Continuum Hypothesis). We also have an extreme lot of suggestions suggesting that the OPM Cosmology has an MWI, ranging from a proper cosmology explanation using terms commonly used in reference to it, to a direct mention of Everett's concept of MWI in japanese (Taisekai Kaishaku) which cannot and does not usually refer to any other mutliverse theory in Genos's explanation of Saitama time traveling. If OPM is proven completely have Quantum Mechanics, this would mean the cosmology is confirmed to have an MWI which requires an uncountably infinite dimensional Hilbert's space with the confo of superposition. By VSBW standards, that could even qualify for High-Hyperversal+ to even Low-Outerversal. (3) Recent Scaling: The biggest feat we have right now is of Saitama catching Empty Void's dimension blade which established before is from a 5D plane, this is crazy as the Dimension Slash depending on Interpertation can scale extremely high- - Due to the properties of dimension blade, it at minimum has Universal+ AP and it doesn't matter if he didn't "destroy" the universe as if he ignores distance, size and energy, he would be able to destroy the Universe if his scale wasn't limited - With the attack being from a 5D plain, ignoring space-time and the 4D (time), this would mean that the attack should theoretically be able to slash an infinite 4D amounts of universes if his scale wasn't limited scaling to Multiversal+. - Some people try saying that this can't be the case because he didn't show these feats, but that's pure ignorance. But even taken intj account the Physics, EV can still have Multi+ AP and attack a small patch of the Earth without destroying the universe, causing space-time rifts or what not. This does not debunk the, Multi+ argument for his slash. - Saitama is able to catch the blade while in a 3D plain. This is crazy as this means he as resistance to any spatial attacks of any dimension as the effects a 5D being has on lets say a 3D one is the same as an 20D being has on the 3D being as well. This would mean Saitama is equal to the dimension slash in AP and Durability for narrative reasons of his power. - Saitama's most impressive feat is not him just grabbing it, but also yanking EV OUT OF THE PLAIN. I don't need to tell you that this is a crazy feat to begin with, but this means that he has the capabilities ti manipulate higher dimensional being of basically any magnitude. Logically, he would AT minimum need to be some higher dimensional amount above EV. Wether you think this scales to his AP is upto you but regardless the arguments Saitama has for winning are far greater then what Naruto has to offer - Also, Truthseeking orbs would not work on Saitama. Not only do we have absolute confirmation that spirits, and more metaphysical soul stuff exist in OPM, we also know that willpower can resist psychic powers and the creator of the manga compares tatsumakis power to Mob (he is the author of both). Saitama is completely resistant to these due to his sheer will power as such, the truth seeking or. Likely won't even work. Regardless, it's an easy win for Saitama no matter what scale you choose to use against Naruto. His arguments are significantly stronger and are clearly given within the manga. Also, if we assume Saitama doesn't have infinite power, it wouldn't matter as he's able to grow from being able to only destroy multiple galaxies to catching a higher dimensional blade.
@@billogdaeggog9071 higher dimensional =/= 5D, cutting space doesn't affect time either. No, appealing to irl science doesn't change that since we aren't talking about the real world. Authors always separate those 2 things because it's an easier framework to work in. You can disagree with this but I would need an actual argument for time and space being the same incanon MWI doesn't automatically scale to high hyper. You need to have specific conditions for infinite dimebsionality to be proven. Like the literal text book of Hilbert space describes it as "finitely dimensional" This is completely ridiculous. Any dimensional tier has infinite power scale within itself. Fodderizing someone doesn't make Saitama an entire dimension above him. To begin with dimensional scaling doesn't work like "4d automatically stronger than 3d" since the reason why dimebsionality matters is increase in energy possible with new axis
@@tabkg5802@tabkg5802 (1) A Hilbert's space is a conceptual plane in which all possible quantum wave-function are organized. And it isn't actualized in a physical sense in an MWI, rather it's merely a space that is used to organize stuff. In a standard MWI like this- "For applying MWI, the universal wavefunction is real in an objective sense, and every possible quantum result is actually present in some 'world' or universe that making it happen in the context given. That means there is a tree structure through every possible history of the universe branching up, with each branch being a different quantum timeline. If the MWI is true, as the number of branches grows exponentially over time, the entire multi verse of the MWI consists of an uncountable, in fact, an infinite number of different ‘quantum’ worlds. Furthermore, each world has further sub branches in an iterative fractal structure resulting in aleph infinities." Usually has a uncountably infinite dimensional Hilbert's space is used to account for the degree of freedom present in the quantum system of an MWI. Under the context I gave which OPM doesn't have it yet, it can't be considered that high. (2) It isn't even appealing to real science if it ignores vectors requiring space time. (3) I never said an MWI scales t high hyper. With proper context it does which OPM lacks I even said that. (4) Ig you're going to ignore every shit I said regarding why the higher space is atleast 5D. I listed my args below, with EV calling it a subspace and all the things already stated in the series already justifies the plane being 5D. (5) It isn't hyper-realism if we already get context to prove it's not. Energy, distance and size ignoring these require u to be equal to a being of a 5D plain (6) I like how you didn't even see how I pointed references to higher dimensional 4D+ objects with a literal tesseract shown, which is the 3D shadow of a 4D object. (7) You didn't even read what I said. Never once did I say fodderizi g someone makes him above EV. The fact that he dragged him from a higher plane means he either has higher dimensional existence or ignores conventional dimensional limits. You ignored nearly half of what I said and tried calling it bullshit because you don't know anything you're self.
@@emmanuelonss2093Are you a 5D being? Tell me this. Then how come you're saying that. He would see me like a dot? Just like how us 3D beings can look into a square box in the 2D without doing much, a 4D being can just see through the 3D box and see what's inside. Now tell me how this in a literal sense is him seeing the 3D as 2D. Surprise, surprise, he isn't. That's an analogy used to better describe what a 4D being may view, but it isn't supposed to be literally how they see things. And again, just because it doesn't align with how it would be in reality, doesn't mean it isn't 5D in context to the series. Taking you're logic to heart no character like Goku or anyone could be universal because they're 3D and can destroy 4D structures. But we still say they can realizing the discrepancy between reality and fiction. We use real world metrics to scale characters but also don't completely abandon the fictional nature of the story.
@@tabkg5802 (1) I never said higher dimension automatically equals 5D. If you bothered to read anything I said, you'd know why I'm saying that he is. (2) It doesn't matter as we have context. He ignores these scalar quantities that are fundamental to physics and space-time. It's ignoring these that gave him 5D dimensionality (3) I never even said the cosmology scales to high hyper, even I said we need slightly more context. And by standard MWI, this is the definition I mean- "For applying MWI, the universal wavefunction is real in an objective sense, and every possible quantum result is actually present in some 'world' or universe that making it happen in the context given. That means there is a tree structure through every possible history of the universe branching up, with each branch being a different quantum timeline. If the MWI is true, as the number of branches grows exponentially over time, the entire multi verse of the MWI consists of an uncountable, in fact, an infinite number of different ‘quantum’ worlds. Furthermore, each world has further sub branches in an iterative fractal structure resulting in aleph infinities." (4) A Hilbert's space arises with all MWI based on Quantum mechanics as the literal definition of it is a conceptual place where all possible quantum wave-functions are organized. This can be infinite or uncountably infinite dimensional, and I said that we need more context from OPM to get there. (5) I never applied hyper realism . Everything I said was based on established facts in the series. (6) You ignored half of what I said and called it bs, and didn't even bother reading it properly when I myself clearly clarified all of what you said. (7) It isn't ridiculous when you realize that all I said was theoretically you would need to be a higher dimensional being or someone transcending conventional dimensional limits To catch a blade by a 5D being that ignores distance, size and energy and has enough context to justify it's nature as one, and yanking that being into a lower dimensional plane. And as I specified, it's up to you whether u think this scales Saitama higher. If you don't wanna read my comment, then don't read it and don't reply without knowing what I'm trying to say.
@@SawyerFan.11. Saitama is no longer multi galaxy anymore he is universal due to his latest feat in the manga of easily grabbing empty voids dimension slash 2. He gets speed blitzed even if you think he has higher ap(he doesn’t) 3. Naruto is nowhere even near multi galaxy the feat you use to wank Naruto is not even a viable one she was going to destroy the dimension through her hax and there is no proof for it to be universe sized and even if you think both of those points are wrong by delusion she was going to destroy the dimension over time 4. Also extra point the otsosuki aren’t gods they are literally just aliens absorbing chakra from planets Amado says so himself
@michadrzymaa2206 lmao Such clowns cannot understand the power of Saitama OPM cosmology is way higher than Naruto fodder verse I don't know why community hates Saitama so much We know that boros is already beyond overkill for Naruto
I cannot take this video seriously. The high balled Naruto is complete wank based almost entirely on statements and weird gimmick techniques and powers. Saitama literally one chapter ago caught and negated attacks coming from outside of reality. Saitama actually does the things that Naruto is being wanked to
@@Shadow-vd8ss saitama has never destroyed a universe on panel. The dimension blade has less destructive capacity than kaguya’s etso. Kaguya and Momoshiki’s realms that they created are also just blatantly called hyperspaces dog, so what’s the argument?
@@noodlesyoutuber Show me Naruto destory a universe, a planet or even a moon? Go ahead, all wait. I keep asking Naruto fans to get me this universal/plantery feat for Naruto and They have yet to show even 1 single feat.
@@worldbosspf1 kaguya was going to destroy her hyperspace’s that she also created and Naruto is stated stronger than her. Sorry bro, the same thing I said to the guy above saitama has never shown the destructive capability to blow up a universe but I still think his attack potency is that strong. You just don’t know the difference between those two
@@noodlesyoutuber Bro you saying things doesn't make it true. Prove Kaguya created those dimensions she teleported to. Second prove those dimensions are universe in size. Third, prove she was going to destory the entire thing and how fast so that process going to be.
@@worldbosspf1Lemme tell you that and stop downolaying Naruto First of all almost every Otsutsuki's in Naruto can create dimensions (except the weaker one like Toneri,Hogoramo etc) and it's even shown in the manga and databook that Etso can create and destroy dimension. So we do know that every Otsutsuki's can create dimension and Kaguya stated several times that "it's my dimension". You guys are downplaying this feat by telling she just somehow owns this dimension, Crazy. "Prove these dimensions are universe in size" 1) Naruto's sensory range 2) Obito can easily spam and open portals from his dimensions to actual Naruto universe. But when Obito tries to open portal to Kaguya's dimension he literally sh**s himself because of the vastness of her dimension 3) Literally dozens of times her dimensions is called as time spaces 4)Her dimension is also called as Sekai which means world. World can be interpreted as Universe or Planet. We do know that there are stars and moons in her dimensions so it definitely not a planet, so it's definitely a universe. Also there is day and night cycle in her universe which means planets are orbiting around the sun. Also even Sasuke priased the vastness of Kaguya's dimension in Boruto Yes she's going to destroy the entire dimension and recreate at the same time, it's in the manga bruh just read Wym by how fast the process going to be? She's going to destroy the dimension to take down Sasuke and Naruto. So it definitely has to be in a short amount of time Even if you don't agree with Kaguya creating all her dimension. She would still scales to her root dimension. So she's Uni with lowball and low multi with higher interpretation
Really, when has buu transcend time space and causality, along with being able to grab a blade from a higher dimension, stated to ignore distance, size and energy. The blade was stated to trancend dimensions too making it 5d, each universe is 4d as confirmed in official translstions. This is literally more than any feat ever shown in dragon ball as a whole including super, but hey keep coping my guy 🥱
Really, when has buu transcend time space and causality, along with being able to grab a blade from a higher dimension, stated to ignore distance, size and energy. The blade was stated to trancend dimensions too making it 5d, each universe is 4d as confirmed in official translstions. This is literally more than any feat ever shown in dragon ball as a whole including super, but hey keep coping my guy 🥱
You have NOT been paying attention to the series, It quite literally mentions all ninjutsu tries to replicate shinjutsu in fact kaguya ate the god tree that was planted on earth where shibais dna so happens to be placed. Not only that but he was stated in a way to create their universe.
Here is what happened Shibai had shinjutsu (god techniques) And otsutsuki people's whole goal is to reach that higher level of being by eating chakra trees and these otsutsuki people try to imitate shinjutsu via the trees btw . like kaguya who ate a tree who should have the genetic information of shibai and ended up only having weak versions of the techniques instead of the real ones like literal omnipotent and omniscient So shibai being 5d on top of that would literally solo your favorite verse Shibi is also not the only one who could go that high because ascending reality is the goal of every otsutsuki
I remember uploading this a year ago with naruto winning due to those universal arguments. With it being “ closer than you think” one year later saitama has grown exponentially and instead of remaking the video we let seth do it. Big dubs😭🙏🏾
@@_------------_ Naruto has zero, I mean zero universal feat, no even Star Level. They always use statements to scale Naruto but scale the opponent based on feat. Why not use Saitama statement of him being the strongest in verse?
@@worldbosspf1Because Saitama’s statement of being the strongest in his verse doesn’t mean he’s the strongest in all verses so that statement holds no weight at all.
41:40 doesn't scale to god!? Literally during the Garou fight the narrative said no one in existence could observe the power Saitama had grown to god was literally watching that fight. This is a mad ignorant statement.
How so? We don't even know how strong God is. The only thing we know,is that Garou was possesing a little fraction of hes power and made Saitama to grow
@@barnabastoma1075 Garou made Saitama grow by killing Genos. His strength was irrelevant. Plus Saitama already has a default growth amp on him before the emotional amp comes in.
This is some next level of biasness because how are you going to sit there and say Naruto win against a character that transcended time, space and causality itself? Naruto can't do that nor has he defeat anyone who was capable of doing such a thing. Dude doesn't even have the capability to time travel if he wanted to.
@@XiaoJinx-G6Saitama never defeated anyone who transcends time & space lol Oh just cause EV existed out side causality doesn't make Saitama to exist outside of it too... Just watch Naruto dude he can already tag beings who don't even exist in the universe
@@Archetype_Earthy doesn't need to because he himself can idiot, therefore he scales above naruto, that can't even look at the corpse if his own God without dying 😂 and yes saitma scales above anything empty void can do, and show Me when naruto tagged someone outside cause and effect I'll wait
22:30 I'm not sure why Saitama not one shotting someone who can copy his strength in an instant (and who he doesn't even want to kill) would indicate that he can't one shot Naruto or that he has limits. Is Naruto able to instantly copy and reflect any attack thrown at him?
he forgot that saitama durability is far higher than his punches which is why garou (who copy saitama durability and stats) did not easily go down in 1 hit when garou copy saitama power and does the serious punch squared both of them are getting hit with an explosion that is at least 2 times stronger and yet both of them take no damage from it
Because if he was a gag character like yall claimed he would have beat him with one punch. Not saying he loses to Naruto but alot of characters in fiction are claimed to have no limits. Especially in comics so this alone cannot be a argument for him winning against characters
@@DODIRTT Says who? Saitama's gag isn't that he always beats everyone with one punch no matter what. It's just that he's too strong to ever really get the challenge he craves. Even facing his own strength doesn't make him struggle. He'll always be too strong to lose, even if it doesn't make sense. A lot of characters are claimed to have no limits and are then shown hitting limits. Pushing past limits with immense effort is not the same thing as actually having no limits. Acting like Saitama works the same as any other shonen protagonist is being purposefully ignorant.
@Supreme_Court. bruh thats literally been yall argument for 4 years that he will literally beat anyone with one punch. Secondly him being too strong to have a challenge is not a gag in the first place. Thats a plot point. Also you second argument doesn't work. Superman struggles in alot of his fights hes still stronger then Saitama because he not only have better feats but he fights people way stronger the Saitama fights. This is very lazy and dishonest imo to do vs battles. You cant argue plot is the reason why Saitama wins against someone. All main characters have plot behind them.
@@DODIRTT Bruh repeating a statement you've heard other people make doesn't counter what I said (or even counter what they said). Him being too strong is both a gag and a plot point. It's the whole point of the series. ONE has called Saitama's strength and existence a kind of gag. There will never be anything that can physically challenge him, unless ONE decides to make fundamental changes. You scaling Superman higher has nothing to do with him having limits or not. His character does have limits, just like most do. Again, eventually pushing past current limits (and then getting new ones) is not being limitless. All characters have plot behind them, not just main characters. You aren't saying anything profound here. I never argued plot as a reason for anything, I just corrected your incorrect assumption about what I think Saitama's gag is.
This Misinformation… I’ve been subscribed for years. Explain yourself. I didn’t know you were bias to a fault. I love Naruto a million times more than one punch man but like wtf!. Naruto doesn’t have to be over powered to be one of the greatest stories in anime history.
He needs fake engagement to build his channel back and He chooses the Opm fandom to do so. This isnt even like seth to just straight up lie like this. He knows people will talk about his shitty take.
I guess I'll elaborate. The video is a collab style video, and Noodles and I have vastly different scalings on both Naruto and Saitama. That is why the video is split in multiple parts and goes over such a vast array of ways to interpret their strength. I'd say all in all, I consider Naruto and Saitama a lot more on the weaker side presented here, whereas Noodles would be more on the stronger side. I think both ways are worth thinking about though. Have a wonderful day.
@@RedRag684 yall can talk shit all yall want but yall wont even debate the topic. Just cause saitama has flashy feats doesnt mean his best feat scales higher.
One shots is crazy considering he couldn't immediately one shot cosmic garou and Naruto has similar ap to saitama himself atleast at the start of the battle
This is definitely a professional troll video lol and I guarantee Seth after making this video rubbed his hands together like Birdman and laughed himself to sleep saying “this is going to stir shit up “ we all know Naruto is strong but in all of Naruto, including Boruto, we have not seen any real planetary feats beside tonari cutting the moon in half and the moon is smaller than the earth people just assume they can blow up planets in Naruto but in Opm we have literally watched. Saitama split the atmosphere across the planet with the force of his punch, and in the manga, he literally sneezed the atmosphere of Jupiter away. And Jupiter dwarfs earth. We have literally never seen Saitama get injured not even by planet busters there is not one person in Naruto that can beat Saitama and I don’t even like one Punch man
Seems weird to point out that OPM is faster because any long distance travel in Naruto is from hax special abilities, then scale naruto to universal because Kaguya can "create or destroy universes". She can use hax to create and destroy universes in the same way that Sasuke created a portal with space time hax to travel far distances quickly. I don't think she can do an attack capable of destroying a universe, she can use her hax to destroy one of the universes she created. Those are two very different things.
25:48 it would be traveling a lot faster than terminal velocity. It is a vacuum in space so no air resistance. They could be traveling 25 miles per second when they reach earth, the air resistance will slow it down a little bit but it is almost negligible.
@@Dont-like-or-sub-81Naruto can fight beings which exists outside the universe but you don't hear Naruto fans glazing that but Saitama grabs a dimensional blade & he's called Hyperversal
Here's what will happen Even if naruto goes all out And uses truth seeking orb Saitama will casually catch it and say Why are you throwing rocks on me is this what you call the power of god You can have your rock back And casually throw it back and boom naruto is reduced to atom along with multiple mountains and countries behind him My this statement is much better and exact then your 1 hour os shit lol Even a naruto fan would accept it but naruto meatrider like you will never 😂 so keep crying
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 prove your statement Or From your logic empty void can one shot Goku with his dimensional blade as it also negates durability and cannot be stopped or dodged but Saitama can just hold it CASUALLY with 2 finger and pull him who lies outside of the dimension and pull him like it's physically possible lol Naruto meatrider are going crazier then jjk meatriders What's next ! Sukuna one shotting Goku with his slash ahhahahah
@@nobassassin7630 If it negates durability, it would negate Saitama's durability. Therefore it's not durability negation. Saitama never tanked attack that targets soul specifically, nor one that uses all principles in nature, including both time and space(example being TSO being able to destroy current Time space of Kaguya and creating a new one). Therefore Saitama gets his soul erased. Also Goku survived dimension slicing attacks before, such as against Janemba, vice shout from Buuhan etc.
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 that's the fkin point Saitama lies outside of cause and effect that's why no attack affect him That's the whole point of his character That's his main fkin power that nothing can injured or affect him no hax no strength that's why he can break logic because he is a character who was written to be purely invincible that's why the show is called opm If you can't understand it then you should stick with your useless yelling and hair growing anime only
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 one more thing Until and unless the author publishes a chapter where Saitama takes damage until then he is invincible Because if a person 1) removed his limiter and hence is limitless 2) doesn't take any damage doesn't matter what attack enemy uses 3) casually grabs hyperspace gate and move them with his physical hand and catches something which is impossible to catch without hax still he does it without even trying even 1 bit 4) grow exponentially till infinity 5) The author named him one punch man 6) easily did time travel as well 7) many character also mentioned that there is no limit to his energy So until author himself makes a chapter showing Saitama can take damage until then you have no way of proving otherwise Only thing you can say is he didn't shown resistance to this attack that attack blah blah I can also say zeno or anos or alien x haven't shown any resistance to my slipper attack so many I can one shot then with my slipper? This is not how things work kiddo Go on cry if you want to you can live in your fantasy world where this type of youtuber make fool of you so he can make more money hahaha 🤣
Ye saitama maybe a gag character but that still doesn't put him on the level of arale just because ur a gag character doesn't mean ur strong just look at g5 luffy
@@SuperKamiGuruu gag isn't an auto win condition. There's a giant difference between g5 Luffy, Bobobo and Bugs Bunny. One is like planetary large planetary at max, other is high hyper from what I remember and the last is anywhere from outer to boundless lmao
The scaling for Naruto makes no sense. Kuramas databooks are HYPERBOLIC, as similar statements were made about Tamari and others. So if you want to use them, you'd have to accept all of them are LITERAL. How is Kaguya universal in physical stats? She made her dimensions with CHAKARA. How long did take? What tanking feat does she have that is UNIVERSAL? etc ... etc Under no circumstances does this make Naruto "universal" in attacking power, just because Kaguya could create "dimensions" as neither scale to this PHYSICALLY. Kaguya got injured by Sakara ... A canon thing. Saintama is LITERALLY showing us his feats, Naruto's "feat" are the biggest "ifs" takes. Good video but no. Saintama curb stomps.
She destroyed the dimensions with her own chakra and no, she used that jatsu in the fourth data book and she can rewrite reality using that jatsu I forgot the name for it but it’s in the fourth data book
Kurama isn't hyperbolic when massive scales above a canon that can blow up the Moon and has a moon level calc of destroying the meteors around Earth Chakra is half physical energy and her strongest attack is stated to be Vaccuum Palm which Naruto overpowers and she tanks hits from him Considering she is doing it in the middle of a fight I'll highball it to an hour Sakura scales to Six Paths tier so not really an Anti-Feat
@@notcensored3917 Sakura doesn't scale to ANY SP characters wtf 🤣 They were going to TELEPORT the moon, NOT destroy it. Naruto split a HOLLOW moon, not remotely planetary. Chakara is not half physical, wtf? they literally explain what chakara is in the story.
What's with the hype on truth seeking orbs? Did we forget that naruto literally just kicked them 😭 It's gonna be a miracle if the orb even damages saitama's outfit somehow
@manwaar6699 Because he's targeting a specific area doesn't mean the attack is necessarily limited to whatever he's targeting as it's stated to cut space itself, meaning it can cut the framework, because time and space r inseparable and they create a framework. A better match up would be boros vs naruto.
The growth in their delusion, much like DB fans, is exponential. Which each OPM chapter release, they grow exponentially more delusional. I don't think anyone can catch up.
Saitama doesn't have a 'Full Power'. All of these Blank vs Saitama wanks always attempt to compare feats. Saitama specifically is written to break opponent feats. It doesn't matter what the opponent brings, whether they affect time, space or reality. Saitama brushes off the attack, often confused by what the attack is as he grabs things that are impossible to grab and ponders what they are.
1hr just to glaze Naruto is crazy but the conclusion of TSO makes sense yeah, Naruto can't physically contend with saitama cuz realistically he physically out scales Naruto in every way... And let's stop scaling That empty void feat more than it is cuz it's not that impressive blocking that attack doesn't make him Immeasurable speed cuz it has a travel speed flashy flash and sonic can react too, so Immeasurable is false
@@Lucifier-2 So, Beating and overpowering a Universal threat several times doesn't make you universal? especially Cutting their goddamn arm off? That doesnt require universal AP?
Conclusion: if in character and Saitama lets Naruto attack at first, Saitama will lose but if he gets serious from the start then he will blitz Naruto because even though he’s so much weaker ironically, Naruto could never keep up with him if they were both blood lusted
You just ignored the whole video, Saitama is dying from TSO off contact, Naruto is way stronger and has way more massive power and better and more hax. Naruto would literally make him blitz clones and then surprise him as the real one.
@ I think you’re taking these verses battles too seriously 😂 I’m not discrediting anything that was said in the video. I simple stated how funny it would be for saitama to be saitama🤷🏾♂️
Garou is stated to have KNOWLEDGE of the flow of all energies in the universe, not to have the energy of all the universe. And he's using portals, not teleporting. It's not a speed feat to follow him through a portal. Seth, fire whoever did your OPM research, this man is a clown who couldn't scale his way out of a wet paper bag.
It can be used as a speed feat because Saitama didn't follow through the hyperspace to catch up he used his fart you can tell he didn't follow Garou through the hyperspace portal because behind Garou there were no portals when he was celebrating meaning he didn't follow through
@@callisto1796 Except he literally did follow him through the portal and you can literally see it on-panel when he's explaining it. I'm starting to believe I'm the only person on the internet who actually reads the series they power scale and everyone else just watches TikTok edits on it.
@@duncanmcokiner4242 expect it just showed he was chasing after him and never showed that he entered quite literally shows Garou celebrating with nobody behind him… no hyperspace behind him indicating that Saitama did not follow him through the portal
Seriously a dimensional slash that ignore size and distance catch with two finger and we never seen saitama get hurt not even garou copying Saitama power hurt saitama cause he grows too fast and eventually people keep down playing empty void feat and Saitama even swim in lava while naruto and sasuke almost died in lava and a normal sword can hurt naruto men so many things that can hurt Naruto like object it isnt even funny 😂
1. Most Delusional UA-camr Ever... 2. Truth Seeking Orbs aren't stronger than Void's Dimension Slash.. Saitama Neg-Diffed Dimension Slash... 3. Saitama is so strong that No One in Existence can Fathom his Power.. OPM God does exist, so God is definitely weaker than Saitama... Cosmic Garou was able to fight Saitama only because of Saitama Mode... It was like Saitama vs Saitama... 4. Naruto cannot survive Void's Dimension Slash... Dimension Slash ignores Distance, size, scale and Energy.. It strike regardless of how strong the opponent is.. 5. Catching Dimension Slash, pulling Void Back from Hyperspace space(hyperspace in OPM is at least 5D), Grabbing Hyperspace Gates, these feets makes Saitama atleast 7D on Low Ball... 6. Serious Punch Squared was Nerfed.. Blast and his crew sent more than 75% of SPS's Energy to another Dimension.. 7. Saitama and Garou didn't target the Galaxies, They punched each other and most of the damage, energy and power were tanked by them. 8. SPS made hole in the Universe... It isn't Multi Galaxy Level, it literally destroyed everything including Countless Galaxies and Space around them.. 9. Less than 25℅ of SPS's shock waves and energy created a void in the universe.. It wasn't 25% of SPS that made a hole in the universe, it was less than 25% of SPS's Shockwaves that did those damage.. 10. Saitama's Normal rate of Growth is so fast that he can overpower Himself from a nano second ago as Saitama was Overpowering Garou who was as strong as Saitama from a nano second ago... 11. He can Grow Exponentially on top of his Normal Growth rate.... If Saitama with his normal growth rate can Overpower himself from a fraction of a nano second ago, it becomes unimaginable to comprehend his exponential growth.. 12. Saitama becomes resistance to any Hax ability thrown at him... He is so strong that Space erasing power doesn't work on him, Telekinesis doesn't work, literally copy his power doesn't work and attacking with more than that power doesn't work as not only Garou was copying Saitama's power but he was growing strong than the Saitama he copied since Garou growth is also too fast.. 13. Saitama doesn't need to worry about his opponent's power as his just learn than and adopt them... He learned time travel from a Guy who didn't mastered Time travel him.. In chap 164 Saitama wasn't able to see God's foot but in chap 168 he could listen to God's Voice and reacted to it... In his Fight against Boros, Saitama hold is breath on the moon.. But in Jupiter he didn't need to breathe... 14. He just do whatever he wants breaking logic and rules... 15. It was stated Multiple times that Saitama has Immeasurable Energy, immeasurable power. Boros told Saitama has Immeasurable Energy and power. Blast said Saitama's power is Impossible to Fathom. Blast is someone who can manipulate the reality of the cosmos even he said it is impossible to fathom, he didn't said the he personally cant fathom Saitama power, he said no one can pathom.. 16. I don't even remember what Genos said in Chap 169 , but he said something like, Saitama is the strongest in the multiverse.. 17. Saitama is so powerful that King's Reality bending Luck doesn't work on Saitama... Only Saitama know King's Secret.. 18. Saitama has no Limits 19. Saitama has infinite Power 20. Saitama has Infinite Potential. 21. Saitama has Infinite Potential + Infinite Power.. Infinite Potential is actually better than Infinite Power.. 22.. Base Cosmic Garou Universal at minimum .. And without Saitama Mode he can't fight with Saitama.. 23. Saitama never went all out.. 24. Saitama can Oneshot anyone.. The only he wasn't oneshot while holding back was Saitama Mode Cosmic Garou. . 25. Boros isn't Multi Continental. He solos the Naruto Shippuden.. All of these are not my head cannon.. All evidence are right there, just read the official Viz OPM chapters... And Saitama solos Naruto Verse with a Casual Fart.
1. No 2. They dont need to be, they have different mechanics 3. This isnt stated anywhere 4.naruto isnt fighting void 5.naruto caught hyperspace gates too, and 7-D is pure headcanon not based on anything 6. Serious punch squared is irrelevant they already said saitamas stronger 7. Again not relevant , no one said naruto wins by punching him 8. No lmao, this just didnt happen, nothing universal here. 9. Okay still not relevant 10. Again not relevant, they already said hes stronger. 11. Not relevant 12. Headcanon never shown or stated, he also got temporal nulled. 13. Not relevant 14. Headcanon 15. Not relevant 16. Not relevant 17. Headcanon 18-21 not relevant, again, they agreed hes stronger 22. Headcanon non provable+scared of jupiter busting 23. He did for a moment against garou 24. Failed to do so against garou 25. Boros is multi continental, he gets destroyed by any six paths character Average opm brain cant comprehend anything
@@andrejmisev2386 You didn't even read the OPM manga properly.. All that I have stated are proven in Manga and are canon. Read the Official OPM manga... Pay attention to each and every detail... You are full of Head cannon and ignorance. You just ignored what is being said and shown in the manga.. If you can't reply with a strong argument you say its irrelevant and you claim that manga confirmed facts and statements are Headcanon... Everything that I said is Cannon and true to the story.. You should remove the lens of ignorance and negligence and read the Manga properly... Truth Seeking Orb are inferior to Void's Dimension Slash with is atleast 5D .. Tatsumaki Low Diffs Naruto Shippunden.... Tatsumaki is Planetary at minimum. Psykorochi and Orochi are also near that tier with the AP.. Boros in base is Planetary and MB Boros is Star Level..
the thing is for some reason, saitama always defends against a ninja attack. idk why but he just does. every instance he is attacked by either sos sonic or flashy flash(and recently empty void) he catches any of their attacks. Additionally, Saitama has dodged attacks from Genos during their sparring match. Saitama also worries about his clothes getting potentially damaged, so he wouldn’t want naruto to just straight up attack him with a large attack. So, it’s not entirely correct to assume that saitama always just let attacks happen to him. even if he does land a truth seeking orb attack, the second he feels damage he could just dash away. legit shows it right here too 53:52
Naruto is like multi continental to moon lvl at best. There's not a single planetary feat in the whole Naruto verse. Saying he's solar system is just funny. And Saitama doesn't have immesurabel speed where did even get that?
For saitama to catch the Dimensional Slash you need to be around that speed because the Dimensional slash comes from a Higher Dimension outside of Causality and ignores distance, Size and Energy
"Not a single planetary feat" there's enough statements for that+ Juubis sheer chakra being compared to small planet and Kaguya being able to create dimensions with AT LEASR planets in them
this is the brain dead biased seth i know. just ignore how boruto power scaling doesnt make sense or show off those feats its purely statements. eos naruto made not a lick of sense. the win condition is truth seeking orbs and saitima not dodging them. if thats the case naruto would never use them like that. but also saitima is grabbing the truth seeking orb no problem just like he kicked a portal.
Idk probably sneezing a planet away, that alone has more destructive capacity than anything in the naruto series, and that’s the lowest of low balls for Saitama.
@@x-immortalkill-x5596naruto has 0 feats of being planetry , all are statements and implications ,if someone else wants to be disingenuous to naruto he would be in multicontinental to moon level tiers while saying saitama can touch hyperspace so he is 5D This video is just glazing naruto to multiversal which is just wrong
Wow 4 guys here all of whom are idiots and saitama Glazers no planetary feats for naruto in 2024 is absurd living under a rock I see get saitama past ichigo first
Good video. Make sure to watch it until literally the very end. Spoilers below... Gotta say, even ignoring the most recent chapters I'd still give it to Saitama. The issue is that Naruto would have to kill Saitama in one shot with his abilities. In Naruto, even things like the Truth Seeking Orbs typically erase portions of the body, like an arm, leg, or else. In that case, Saitama would become way more serious and just blitz + one tap Naruto. Same with his other hax abilities. As for their higher end scaling, Saitama still outscales even the highest ends presented in the video. God's Hyperspace dimension is very explicitly higher-dimensional relative to not just 3-D space, but entire space-time continuums, going by it being "outside causality." You could even argue that "causality" there refers to not just an individual universe, but the entire sequence of cause and effect by which the multiverse splits out infinitely. Bare minimum, that space is 5th-dimensional with that interpretation. You could even argue 6-D if you believe in Many-Worlds Interpretation.
Saitama surviving every hax thrown at him in his series. These guys claiming Saitama will probably die from truth seeking obs or some generic hax. 😂😂😂 I am sure they'll keep making these video everytime Saitama keeps surviving more stupid hax abilities each arc. Each time we will come back here and laugh and go back to our normal lives.
@@jaydo787they’re just yapping to fulfill their bias. Then make claims like “well if he can’t survive now, he will be able to in the future” that’s like me saying Naruto might become the jinchuriki of a new ten tails when he’s out of kawaki’s dimension. These guys are clowns
I think it could have been worth mentioning Saitamas hax resistances since hax are just as if not more important in Naruto than pure stats. Saitama has casually resisted psychic/spiritual attacks, broken into pocket dimensions and interacted with/stopped higher dimensional things like Garous wormholes or empty voids slashes. Not to mention the implication of his reverse causality punch. The truth is, Saitama still holds back and I believe his defense is orders if magnitude higher than the offensive feats he has already displayed.
@@SawyerFan.1 Its a feat because it shows he isnt necessarily affected by supernatural powers. And his "minor spatial hax" are still enough to counter tons of stuff in Naruto. Now Imagine what he could do If he was going all out.
@@Lucifier-2 he’s already faster and stronger lol he’s only worse in terms of hax and hax resistance but yeah his character mentality is really bad for a fight like this
Dunno i don't really like that whole argument that truth seeker orbs would kill saitama when we saw characters even like Might Guy punch Madara through the truth sphere which he created to cover himself and plus in new OPM manga as shown in the video empty void slashes are stated to be able to cut anything in lower dimensions.
@@notcensored3917 yeah i know but if someone like madara or almost any Six path class character can negate the effects of them doesnt really make them absolute erasure. Edit also my whole point was about the fact that someone broke Truth seeking orbs with pure strengh.
@@Igrafel madara got kicked by guy which caused the orb to weaken. They had to kamui the orb to bypass the orb and let guy in to begin with. The orb didn’t break because guy kicked it. It broke because when madara got kicked and nearly died it weakened and broke. Just like when guy hit madara’s susanoo with his hirudora it caused his wood style entrapping the 8 tails weakened to break. They spent the entire fight trying to avoid the TSO’s ofc they can’t resist it. Also having a higher dimensional power blade doesn’t randomly give you existence erasure
@@noodlesyoutuber I guess you could interpret it that way damage taken = lower defense them but it never been shown again or atleast i don't remember such clear example plus does that also mean the other aspects would also go down like attack potency atd?? or is it only defense because that would be weird also also if the potency would actually fluctuate how you seem to suggest that would imply its not existence erasure but attack that simply attacks body and soul which is completety different tier. To end this like i said it empty void cleary stated that he cuts space itself which would be same tier as truth seeker only difference would be that TSO also attacks spirit but we also know that saitama has atleast spiritual resistance if anything so it really depends how high you wanna push the effectiveness of TSO. Edit also massive issue in general with TSO is that they just stop deleting people past Six path level which makes pinpointing exact power of them difficult.
@@Igrafel ”damage taken=lower defense” madara got hit with an attack that nearly killed him. That means the structure at which that was holding the tso up easily could have been weakened just like the structure that was holding up the wood style was weakened when guy hit him with hirudora. Guy never touched the tso he simply hit madara who then crashed through his own tso. Guy cannot touch TSO’s at all or he will get erased this is explicitly stated and shown several times. “You’re saying the power fluctuates” no I didn’t say the power fluctuates it still can have existence erasure properties but madara is simply unable to maintain the structure of his truth seeking orb when taking a near death attack. There’s nothing debunking the fact it’s existence erasure whatsoever. It literally is stated to erase you and is shown to erase even the soul and saitama has never resisted having his soul erased. Pinching a blade with 4D power does not grant you existence erasure resistance it grants you 4D power. Saitama being able to break into a spiritual realm does not mean he can resist his soul being erased either because naruto can grab his own soul and interact with his own soul and can manipulate spiritual energy to rip souls out of other people as well like he did with juubito. Even considering this fact Tobirama still told naruto that if he gets touched with the orbs he will get erased
Honestly i appreciate the effort you put into this video. You always do an amazing Job. This one is an absolute Miss to me respectfully. No slight against the video at all, its absolutely quality 👍🏿. I don't think we watched the same Naruto growing up or read the same mangas respectfully. Anyway cant wait to see your next video.
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Do you guys think Saitama has earned the rematch with Goku? Or do you think he's still not there yet? Comment!
Edit: For those confused about the video style, here's an explanation. The video is a collab style video, I don't do collabs anymore on the main, but I agreed to for this one. Noodles and I have vastly different scaling's on both Naruto and Saitama. That is why the video is split in multiple parts and goes over such a vast array of ways to interpret their strength. I'd say all in all, I consider Naruto and Saitama a lot more on the weaker side presented here, whereas Noodles would be more on the stronger side. I think both ways are worth thinking about though. Have a wonderful day.
2: For those that don't know what existence erasure is, it is not the same as warping space or ignoring it. Imagine more of a DoodleBob from SpongeBob, erasing your soul and your being, not the space or essence about you. All things in existence generally warp gravity and space somewhat. The TSO do not operate via conventional scaling or durability and more evidence needs to be gathered to prove a resistance, an assumption based on tropes isn't enough.
Goku's gonna keep bugging Saitama for a rematch. Lol
Hope u make 3 million broski respect🤌🤌🤌✊️👊✊️
You gotta do it, Goku vs Saitama updated
Saitama needs to wait
I prefer Stan Lee's "how would the writers make the fight" over these power scaling calculations the writers are not thinking that deeply into.
Goku vs Saitama will result in a draw no matter what form or when the fight takes place. Because their characters are written to be a certain way.
Goku's durability feats will always be contradicted by Toriyama style who would indicate that Moro's galaxy wide explosion would of taken out Goku and Vegeta.
"How would the writer make it" is better than fan calculations.
Seth: "Saitama in the future will undoubtedly be the winner one day without any contention or argument."
*Bro that day has already come* 💀
No It Hasn’t This Video Is Not Even Taking Narutos Best Interpretation Into Account Because Seth Doesn’t Like Naruto Uni Scaling. 🤦🏻♂️💀
@christianphrenger7902 bro he was glazing the absolute crap out of Naruto the entire time tho honestly
@ Not Even Close Multiversal Naruto Is Glaze Not Even Bringing Up Universal Naruto Is Outright Downplay.
@@KingPfrenger well saitama is 5d so 😂😂
@@KingPfrenger get naruto past star level lil bro
Before the Saitama vs Garou fight, I would've tought Naruto wins. But yeah no, Saitama no diffs unless you use weird arguments to say Naruto is universal
@@AlanLiebheart weird arguments? He was Cutting arms off of Universal threats
A few years ago I'd agree with you, but now that I'm getting into power scaling, I now think that universal Naruto is no longer wank, especially after Momoshiki's introduction. I think he's blatantly universal by the time Naruto transforms into Baryon mode. Isshiki literally sent them to a parallel universe where Konoha never existed. Universal Naruto is not as consistent as Universal Ichigo but it's definitely not a weird argument.
@@darryltorres7302 He's Universal by the time he Clashed, Tanked and beat a universal threat in hand 2 hand and CUT HER ARM OFF
@@SawyerFan.1 buddy, the problem with that argument is that Kaguya being universal isn't concrete. We don't exactly how large Kaguya's dimensions actually are, they're only vaguely around solar systems. However, Universal Naruto scaling is more concrete in Boruto.
@@SawyerFan.1saitama is 5d 😂
Man I love Naruto but there's no way he wins. Saitama slams. What's Naruto's equivalent of Saitama casually catching two dimensional slash with his damn fingers, slashes which are outside the causality of the universe?
@@omnisynsei778 we said he’s not as strong or fast watch the video for why we said naruto could win
@@noodlesyoutuber Bruh, let my boy Naruto rest where he is currently. Within Kawaki's dimension. At this point Mumen Rider would be a better opponent for him. And you didn't answer my question.
@@omnisynsei778 the video you didn’t watch answers your question.
@@noodlesyoutuber Did you watch the video? Put a time timestamp where the OP talks about EV and the dimension slash. That's right he didn't. The mental gymnastics you guys do is beyond me. There is reason we pit Saitama against Goku.
Easy answer. Better written. Saitama is juat a losers wet dream. He counts for nothing and his feats, all of them are moot.
The issue is if Saitama knows he's in a battle because when he was in a duel with Genos, he dodged everything that came his way.
the Naruto glazing is insane
They used to glazed Naruto to universal, now they want glaze him to multiversal. But yet to show any feat that puts Naruto anywhere close to any of those scaling.
There is a feat in boruto anime, Naruto in Base form crack the space across the universe and those cracks reach Kaguya's dimension, cracking space across universe is a universel level feat and Naruto has done that in Base form with his presence alone
@devilgod4552 That still doesn't beat someone that can reverse time.
@@worldbosspf1 time manipulation techniques didn't always work like that, the techniques Saitama could use (or maybe he had forgotten it) will end up creating a difference time line, Naruto would be alive in his own time line and saitama would win against kid naruto in different time line, which techniqualy is not a win against boruto naruto
Aren't you the guy that downplays Naruto and says he's a luffy victim
The one punch panel of stars in the sky being wiped out by a punch is mad (especially is overanalysed) as even with faster than light attacks, it would still take millions of years to see the damage. Implying he destroyed the space itself between there and the stars.
It'd take millions of years for the CHARACTERS to see the damage, not US, the VIEWERS of the story. We aren't inside the story, therefore the laws of reality don't apply to us.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 You're implying that fictional characters abide the laws of reality when reality manipulation, time hacks, and something as basic as being faster than the speed of light is the norm 😭
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 I'm no opm glazer but give them props when they have it
@@lancetheking7524 All I got to say is that it would explain why NOBODY reacted to the fact that an ENTIRE segment of space just CEASED TO EXIST after the energy of the clash was redirected.
I'm not trying to debunk OPM scaling or anything, I'm just trying to help explain shit tbh...
Not if even the photons were destroyed
Somewhere around 34:00 you say something about the distance of a star that us humans can perceive. You forgot that it was a space view panel. Which means we see farther because there is no atmosphere blocking our view. Which only makes this feat even more impressive.
Saitama literally held a dimension slash that negates distance and erases anything it touches. Truth seeking orbs ain’t doing shit. Plus he can even hold hyperspace gates.
saitama is above cause and effect so those truth seeking orbs really aren't doing anything to him
@@mrblack1587 saitama doesn't have resistance to existence erasure
@@vader4786prove it. Prove your statement
@@vader4786 i mean if his bare hands are resistent to existence erasure...
There's no proof to suggest he could withstand those types of attacks nor has he shown it.
This could either be the most fun power scaling video ever or the biggest snooze fest. I'm betting on you Seth, don't disappoint!
😂 Bro glazed Naruto was hard to multiversal yet Naruto himself has no such feat.
not even snooze fest, a whole 5 star treatment in dream world
@@worldbosspf1did you even watch the video?
honestly i'm very very disappointed, saitama just need one finger to wank naruto to existence, Immune to 5D power level of attacks is even suprior than superman prime one milion feat
@@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS nope he just doesn't like naruto
Saitama faster than light fart is peak fiction
Pre Dimensional Slash Catch, Saitama would catch the truth seeking orbs. like when he kicked the blackholes.
@@viciousrich minor spacial hax
@@SawyerFan.1
Dont think we can keep calling it minor when he keeps performing these feats effortlessly.
Its clear Saitama isnt even trying.
@@tobiasbayer4866 grabbing a Portal is not a massive hax, neither is grabbing a space blade
@@SawyerFan.1
Its more than enough to counter the hax in Naruto.
Also you skipped the part where broke into pocket dimensions.
Fact is that he can interact with and manipulate space time itself. Aswell as interact with pocket dimensions and higher dimensions. That at the very least matches the hax in Naruto.
To be fair here, the Dimensional slash catch reallyyyy isn't all that impressive when you have weaker characters like Kakashi and Obito opening portals, and Teen Naruto touching and interacting with his own soul, also grabbing portals like Saitama, and literally swabbing hands with clones that exist in a separate plain of existence. But I agree, I do think Saitama may be able to at the very least touch a TSO if even Base SO6P Teen Naruto can. But then again it could just be a divine hax thing only for six path characters.
Latest chapter proves that nothing can stop Saitama anymore. As someone who doesn't even like the character, you have to admit that he crushes Naruto quite easily.
I'm guessing he saw the newest opm chapter and had to make this video as a coping mechanism
This video doesn't mention saitama's literal hax. He kicked away a portal which shouldn't even be possible, and the most recent chapter with empty void he just literally defies all physics
@@rryyddeerr Empty Void also grabbed space
Naruto kicked away a truth seeking orb, so, so what?
naruto literally held open a portal so what is the glaze
@@jaydo787 thats completely diffetent. Portals open and close, they are meant to do that. Physically moving one with a kick shouldnt be possible
@ you shouldn’t be able to interact with a portal at all but naruto does it so this doesn’t matter, just because saitama kicked it and naruto ripped it open it doesnt mean anything
Saitama would catch the truth seeking orb, and probably go owowowow in a funny way as it burns his hand like a hot potato
Saitama has lots of feats that surpass Naruto. Those truth seeking orbs likely aren't doing anything.
@@baconboy-robloxmore2684
Naruto Uzumaki’s power in significantly throughout the series, reflecting his growth and feats. Early on, in Part I, he’s ranked City Block level (8-B) due to basic abilities enhanced by Kurama’s chakra, allowing him to unleash powerful but limited attacks. As he progresses into Part II, his power rises to Mountain level (7-A) and even Island level (6-C) during battles like the one against Pain, thanks to Sage Mode and partial control of Kurama’s chakra.
In the War Arc, Naruto becomes a powerhouse, achieving Small Planet level (Low 5-B) with Six Paths Sage Mode and full Kurama synchronization. By the New Era, as the Seventh Hokage, this level is consistent, supported by his mastery of chakra and continued scaling alongside god-tier characters like Sasuke and the Ōtsutsuki clan.
Naruto’s rankings are based on feats like destroying meteors, clashing with god-like entities, and protecting the entire Shinobi Alliance. His steady progression from novice to one of the strongest shinobi in existence shows why he is consistently ranked among the top tiers in the Naruto universe.
@@TaShawnEllison Nice AI response, but that didn't disprove anything that I said. Saitama is literally galaxy level by the way.
He can't do that
That wouldn’t happen because saitama isn’t a gag character. He only does this to enemies that he’s stronger than because that’s his gag, not that him being a gag character makes him the strongest in his verse. If he meets his match he won’t be doing that to their attacks, just like against garou who was punching his face in, even though garou was still weaker than saitama
I think everyone realizes at this point saitama is the one above all
He strong, but not even close to one above all. There are plenty of characters who casually do extradimensional feats, he isn't really special in that regard. As of now, he would still get clapped by higher tiers.
Lmao they tried to pull everything to make Saitama lose
no they didnt. they literally just displayed the factual information of the show, manga and guidebooks.
Saitama is 5d so he wins@@purplecadence7390
Maybe they did it to show that no matter how hard you try Naruto can’t possibly win
@@jimjamjon2285Saitama in the the grand scheme of things is just as irrelevant ad naruto Lol😂😂😂
Y'all saitama dickriding "one punch man🤡" are hella mad that a cute blondie ninja can casually eradicate Saitama existence with one attack deal with it and keep downplaying Naruto with yours headcanon fanfiction rage bait
Seth did you not make it to the recent chapters of the manga or are we ignoring it? Because Saitama fought a man who could jump out of the dimension and attack people from outside the dimension and when that man swinged his sword Saitama caught it.
@@justindeliwe8065 did you watch the video?
@@tabkg5802I did. And they do not mention or reference what I stated
@@justindeliwe8065 watch the video to the end, BUD! >:³
(Sorry, I'm watching too much Monkey Kid, I'm starting to get concern about it ( ".- .))
@@justindeliwe8065rewatch the vid cuz they literally did verbatim
@@mtna964 Rewatched it many times he did not say it verbatim
Saitama was beating garou holding back, and was using one hand for majority of the fight
While joking
No matter what Naruto throws at Saitama, it wouldn't hurt saitama, not even a scratch
TSO slams
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 Who has TSO slam? Why didn't he use the TSO as kaguya instead of sealing her?
It would😊
@@worldbosspf1 Cause she has Six Paths chakra rendering its soul nulyfying abilities useless? Have you even watched Juubito fight?
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 If it can be counter, Saitama will count.
Biggest Saitama lowball vs Biggest Naruto highball. Saitama solos the verse even in this shit comparision
We said saitama had higher dimensional power bud how is that a lowball
@@noodlesyoutuber How can anyone seriously lowball Saitama to Planet - Large Planet level. Dude literally has galaxy level feat at bare minimum.
@@worldbosspf1 we said the highball and the lowball, and saitama on his high end is higher dimensional which is accurate, on the low end of you don’t believe in the higher dimension stuff he has planetary and multi galaxy feats idiot that’s why. The lowball was never “planetary to large planetary. It was large planetary to multi-galaxy”
Saitama is 5d not 4d, each bubble is a universe which is 4d, as stated in the official translstions@@noodlesyoutuber
@@gokusama4445 a universe is not 4D inherently
Everyone saying he’s giving Naruto the win either hasn’t watched the video or is completely ignoring the fact that they are admitting that Saitama can blitz him
Yeah
That boros and physco ororchi low ball to multi continental is crazy when orochi was literally able to generate small planetery level of energy with his Gaia canon and he is literally fodder to them
(1) The space EV accesses is a 5D space. There is no contention about this and those who do can respectfully GET OU-
- Blast mentions in chapter 197 that EV's dimesion slash ignores distance, size and energy. To even do this you would need to be a 5D being in existence. Some people have contentions with this which I will clarify
- EV in ch 209 is suprised that the dimension slash stopped moving as nothing can stop a blade that cut through space itself, subsequently meaning he can cut through space-time as well.
- Blast on numerous occasions says that the plane EV accesses is higher dimensional
- The new official chapter translations confirm that the dimension slash strikes regardless of the targets distance, size or energy. But now the main important change int he translation is how Bladt specifies that the SCALE of the slash depends on the user not the property of ignorance.
- Some people try to debunk the 5D argument via miscallenious evidence like them showing a tesseract when mentioning EV's slash. This is a dumb argument simply due to the fact that, that isn't even an actual 4D object, but rather the 3D shadow of a 4D hypercube. Why did Murata use this as an example? Simply because that's the most common association with higher dimensions in general. Not because he "thinks the space is 4D," Or even intended for it.
- He is outside of cause and effect which we know in OPM via Saitama's 0 punch being called reversal of causality ounch or what not that time is an element ot cause and effect in OPM like most other verses. We even have direct references to Relativity.
(2) Cosmology:
Regarding the cosmology, assuming we're only talking about the universes in totality, all of them are at minimum Multi+ and likely Low 1-C via the degree of freedom present in the branching of said universes and realizing new universes and also assuming the GCH (General Continuum Hypothesis). We also have an extreme lot of suggestions suggesting that the OPM Cosmology has an MWI, ranging from a proper cosmology explanation using terms commonly used in reference to it, to a direct mention of Everett's concept of MWI in japanese (Taisekai Kaishaku) which cannot and does not usually refer to any other mutliverse theory in Genos's explanation of Saitama time traveling. If OPM is proven completely have Quantum Mechanics, this would mean the cosmology is confirmed to have an MWI which requires an uncountably infinite dimensional Hilbert's space with the confo of superposition. By VSBW standards, that could even qualify for High-Hyperversal+ to even Low-Outerversal.
(3) Recent Scaling: The biggest feat we have right now is of Saitama catching Empty Void's dimension blade which established before is from a 5D plane, this is crazy as the Dimension Slash depending on Interpertation can scale extremely high-
- Due to the properties of dimension blade, it at minimum has Universal+ AP and it doesn't matter if he didn't "destroy" the universe as if he ignores distance, size and energy, he would be able to destroy the Universe if his scale wasn't limited
- With the attack being from a 5D plain, ignoring space-time and the 4D (time), this would mean that the attack should theoretically be able to slash an infinite 4D amounts of universes if his scale wasn't limited scaling to Multiversal+.
- Some people try saying that this can't be the case because he didn't show these feats, but that's pure ignorance. But even taken intj account the Physics, EV can still have Multi+ AP and attack a small patch of the Earth without destroying the universe, causing space-time rifts or what not. This does not debunk the, Multi+ argument for his slash.
- Saitama is able to catch the blade while in a 3D plain. This is crazy as this means he as resistance to any spatial attacks of any dimension as the effects a 5D being has on lets say a 3D one is the same as an 20D being has on the 3D being as well. This would mean Saitama is equal to the dimension slash in AP and Durability for narrative reasons of his power.
- Saitama's most impressive feat is not him just grabbing it, but also yanking EV OUT OF THE PLAIN. I don't need to tell you that this is a crazy feat to begin with, but this means that he has the capabilities ti manipulate higher dimensional being of basically any magnitude. Logically, he would AT minimum need to be some higher dimensional amount above EV. Wether you think this scales to his AP is upto you but regardless the arguments Saitama has for winning are far greater then what Naruto has to offer
- Also, Truthseeking orbs would not work on Saitama. Not only do we have absolute confirmation that spirits, and more metaphysical soul stuff exist in OPM, we also know that willpower can resist psychic powers and the creator of the manga compares tatsumakis power to Mob (he is the author of both). Saitama is completely resistant to these due to his sheer will power as such, the truth seeking or. Likely won't even work. Regardless, it's an easy win for Saitama no matter what scale you choose to use against Naruto. His arguments are significantly stronger and are clearly given within the manga. Also, if we assume Saitama doesn't have infinite power, it wouldn't matter as he's able to grow from being able to only destroy multiple galaxies to catching a higher dimensional blade.
Lol
that's bullshit
5d being would see 3d being like how you see a dot but not only can you hear flashy flash but you can see him just a bit smaller
@@billogdaeggog9071 higher dimensional =/= 5D, cutting space doesn't affect time either. No, appealing to irl science doesn't change that since we aren't talking about the real world. Authors always separate those 2 things because it's an easier framework to work in. You can disagree with this but I would need an actual argument for time and space being the same incanon
MWI doesn't automatically scale to high hyper. You need to have specific conditions for infinite dimebsionality to be proven. Like the literal text book of Hilbert space describes it as "finitely dimensional"
This is completely ridiculous. Any dimensional tier has infinite power scale within itself. Fodderizing someone doesn't make Saitama an entire dimension above him. To begin with dimensional scaling doesn't work like "4d automatically stronger than 3d" since the reason why dimebsionality matters is increase in energy possible with new axis
@@tabkg5802@tabkg5802 (1) A Hilbert's space is a conceptual plane in which all possible quantum wave-function are organized. And it isn't actualized in a physical sense in an MWI, rather it's merely a space that is used to organize stuff. In a standard MWI like this-
"For applying MWI, the universal wavefunction is real in an objective sense, and every possible quantum result is actually present in some 'world' or universe that making it happen in the context given. That means there is a tree structure through every possible history of the universe branching up, with each branch being a different quantum timeline. If the MWI is true, as the number of branches grows exponentially over time, the entire multi verse of the MWI consists of an uncountable, in fact, an infinite number of different ‘quantum’ worlds. Furthermore, each world has further sub branches in an iterative fractal structure resulting in aleph infinities."
Usually has a uncountably infinite dimensional Hilbert's space is used to account for the degree of freedom present in the quantum system of an MWI. Under the context I gave which OPM doesn't have it yet, it can't be considered that high.
(2) It isn't even appealing to real science if it ignores vectors requiring space time.
(3) I never said an MWI scales t high hyper. With proper context it does which OPM lacks I even said that.
(4) Ig you're going to ignore every shit I said regarding why the higher space is atleast 5D. I listed my args below, with EV calling it a subspace and all the things already stated in the series already justifies the plane being 5D.
(5) It isn't hyper-realism if we already get context to prove it's not. Energy, distance and size ignoring these require u to be equal to a being of a 5D plain
(6) I like how you didn't even see how I pointed references to higher dimensional 4D+ objects with a literal tesseract shown, which is the 3D shadow of a 4D object.
(7) You didn't even read what I said. Never once did I say fodderizi g someone makes him above EV. The fact that he dragged him from a higher plane means he either has higher dimensional existence or ignores conventional dimensional limits.
You ignored nearly half of what I said and tried calling it bullshit because you don't know anything you're self.
@@emmanuelonss2093Are you a 5D being? Tell me this. Then how come you're saying that. He would see me like a dot? Just like how us 3D beings can look into a square box in the 2D without doing much, a 4D being can just see through the 3D box and see what's inside. Now tell me how this in a literal sense is him seeing the 3D as 2D. Surprise, surprise, he isn't. That's an analogy used to better describe what a 4D being may view, but it isn't supposed to be literally how they see things.
And again, just because it doesn't align with how it would be in reality, doesn't mean it isn't 5D in context to the series. Taking you're logic to heart no character like Goku or anyone could be universal because they're 3D and can destroy 4D structures. But we still say they can realizing the discrepancy between reality and fiction. We use real world metrics to scale characters but also don't completely abandon the fictional nature of the story.
@@tabkg5802
(1) I never said higher dimension automatically equals 5D. If you bothered to read anything I said, you'd know why I'm saying that he is.
(2) It doesn't matter as we have context. He ignores these scalar quantities that are fundamental to physics and space-time. It's ignoring these that gave him 5D dimensionality
(3) I never even said the cosmology scales to high hyper, even I said we need slightly more context. And by standard MWI, this is the definition I mean-
"For applying MWI, the universal wavefunction is real in an objective sense, and every possible quantum result is actually present in some 'world' or universe that making it happen in the context given. That means there is a tree structure through every possible history of the universe branching up, with each branch being a different quantum timeline. If the MWI is true, as the number of branches grows exponentially over time, the entire multi verse of the MWI consists of an uncountable, in fact, an infinite number of different ‘quantum’ worlds. Furthermore, each world has further sub branches in an iterative fractal structure resulting in aleph infinities."
(4) A Hilbert's space arises with all MWI based on Quantum mechanics as the literal definition of it is a conceptual place where all possible quantum wave-functions are organized. This can be infinite or uncountably infinite dimensional, and I said that we need more context from OPM to get there.
(5) I never applied hyper realism . Everything I said was based on established facts in the series.
(6) You ignored half of what I said and called it bs, and didn't even bother reading it properly when I myself clearly clarified all of what you said.
(7) It isn't ridiculous when you realize that all I said was theoretically you would need to be a higher dimensional being or someone transcending conventional dimensional limits
To catch a blade by a 5D being that ignores distance, size and energy and has enough context to justify it's nature as one, and yanking that being into a lower dimensional plane. And as I specified, it's up to you whether u think this scales Saitama higher.
If you don't wanna read my comment, then don't read it and don't reply without knowing what I'm trying to say.
It's so weird to watch this major collab, knowing the beef lore. Glad the community could heal
excellent rage bait
Havent we still never seen Saitama take damage yet? How do we know how durable he is?
I'll admit I bought into all the Naruto glaze, it's very consistent. And yet, Saitama would just flick any orb away
Saitama would make Naruto spit out his Ramen. Lol
@@IsaiahWayne2104 Naruto one taps his multi galaxy fodder
@@SawyerFan.11. Saitama is no longer multi galaxy anymore he is universal due to his latest feat in the manga of easily grabbing empty voids dimension slash 2. He gets speed blitzed even if you think he has higher ap(he doesn’t) 3. Naruto is nowhere even near multi galaxy the feat you use to wank Naruto is not even a viable one she was going to destroy the dimension through her hax and there is no proof for it to be universe sized and even if you think both of those points are wrong by delusion she was going to destroy the dimension over time
4. Also extra point the otsosuki aren’t gods they are literally just aliens absorbing chakra from planets Amado says so himself
@@SawyerFan.1how is stopping a blade that transcends dimensions multi galaxy 😂 saitama is 5d while naruto is 4d
@@gokusama4445hol up when did saitama became 5d
@@m.degamaulana2741 In the Manga he stopped a dimensional slash from Empty Void, an attack that shouldn't even be possible to dodge or stop.
Lol saitama downplaying is crazy
not just saitama but boros as well
he really said that psykos orochi might be above the collapsing star roaring canon like bruh
@michadrzymaa2206 lmao
Such clowns cannot understand the power of Saitama
OPM cosmology is way higher than Naruto fodder verse
I don't know why community hates Saitama so much
We know that boros is already beyond overkill for Naruto
@@capmohamad4738could say the same for you goofballs downplaying Naruto
I cannot take this video seriously. The high balled Naruto is complete wank based almost entirely on statements and weird gimmick techniques and powers. Saitama literally one chapter ago caught and negated attacks coming from outside of reality. Saitama actually does the things that Naruto is being wanked to
@@Shadow-vd8ss saitama has never destroyed a universe on panel. The dimension blade has less destructive capacity than kaguya’s etso. Kaguya and Momoshiki’s realms that they created are also just blatantly called hyperspaces dog, so what’s the argument?
@@noodlesyoutuber Show me Naruto destory a universe, a planet or even a moon? Go ahead, all wait. I keep asking Naruto fans to get me this universal/plantery feat for Naruto and They have yet to show even 1 single feat.
@@worldbosspf1 kaguya was going to destroy her hyperspace’s that she also created and Naruto is stated stronger than her. Sorry bro, the same thing I said to the guy above saitama has never shown the destructive capability to blow up a universe but I still think his attack potency is that strong. You just don’t know the difference between those two
@@noodlesyoutuber Bro you saying things doesn't make it true. Prove Kaguya created those dimensions she teleported to. Second prove those dimensions are universe in size. Third, prove she was going to destory the entire thing and how fast so that process going to be.
@@worldbosspf1Lemme tell you that and stop downolaying Naruto
First of all almost every Otsutsuki's in Naruto can create dimensions (except the weaker one like Toneri,Hogoramo etc) and it's even shown in the manga and databook that Etso can create and destroy dimension. So we do know that every Otsutsuki's can create dimension and Kaguya stated several times that "it's my dimension". You guys are downplaying this feat by telling she just somehow owns this dimension, Crazy.
"Prove these dimensions are universe in size"
1) Naruto's sensory range
2) Obito can easily spam and open portals from his dimensions to actual Naruto universe. But when Obito tries to open portal to Kaguya's dimension he literally sh**s himself because of the vastness of her dimension
3) Literally dozens of times her dimensions is called as time spaces
4)Her dimension is also called as Sekai which means world. World can be interpreted as Universe or Planet. We do know that there are stars and moons in her dimensions so it definitely not a planet, so it's definitely a universe. Also there is day and night cycle in her universe which means planets are orbiting around the sun. Also even Sasuke priased the vastness of Kaguya's dimension in Boruto
Yes she's going to destroy the entire dimension and recreate at the same time, it's in the manga bruh just read
Wym by how fast the process going to be? She's going to destroy the dimension to take down Sasuke and Naruto. So it definitely has to be in a short amount of time
Even if you don't agree with Kaguya creating all her dimension. She would still scales to her root dimension. So she's Uni with lowball and low multi with higher interpretation
Lil bro is a glazerrr of goku and doesn't wanna admit baldy solos his favourite verse 🤣🤣
Goku slams the trash verse
@@jaylevi8602 Saitama>DBZ, Boros>JJK
The verse’s best feats so far don’t even get past the Buu Saga lmao 🤣
Really, when has buu transcend time space and causality, along with being able to grab a blade from a higher dimension, stated to ignore distance, size and energy. The blade was stated to trancend dimensions too making it 5d, each universe is 4d as confirmed in official translstions. This is literally more than any feat ever shown in dragon ball as a whole including super, but hey keep coping my guy 🥱
Really, when has buu transcend time space and causality, along with being able to grab a blade from a higher dimension, stated to ignore distance, size and energy. The blade was stated to trancend dimensions too making it 5d, each universe is 4d as confirmed in official translstions. This is literally more than any feat ever shown in dragon ball as a whole including super, but hey keep coping my guy 🥱
Seth aint no way you tried twist the story like Naruto gets his powers from shibai that’s the most stretched truth I’ve heard in a minute
@@ZayDeyknow well everyone got his powers from Shibai in a way
@ absolutely not true everyone got there chakra from the tree nothing more nothing the less
You have NOT been paying attention to the series, It quite literally mentions all ninjutsu tries to replicate shinjutsu in fact kaguya ate the god tree that was planted on earth where shibais dna so happens to be placed. Not only that but he was stated in a way to create their universe.
Here is what happened
Shibai had shinjutsu (god techniques)
And otsutsuki people's whole goal is to reach that higher level of being by eating chakra trees and these otsutsuki people try to imitate shinjutsu via the trees btw . like kaguya who ate a tree who should have the genetic information of shibai and ended up only having weak versions of the techniques instead of the real ones like literal omnipotent and omniscient
So shibai being 5d on top of that would literally solo your favorite verse
Shibi is also not the only one who could go that high because ascending reality is the goal of every otsutsuki
@@JackRippa-bq9qo Exactly 💯
Saitama can wipe Naruto out with a sneeze...
His sneeze was Large planet level, Madara would tank it in base
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 saitama would kill madara easily lmao dont be delusional and actually read one punch man fanboy
@Mo-id7nl Madara's immortal
Then how he die😂 @guythatgoesbythenamekay7954
@@Mo-id7nlHe would but not with a sneeze lmao
he picked up a portal. he’d probably just catch the orb and look at it funny then throw it away.
It would erase his soul
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 nope Saitama literally had resistance to soul erasure hell God in opm can literally do just that
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 and if I remember tatsumaki can actually effect soul which Saitama was unfaze
lol blast would destroy Naruto.
Helll yeah 😂
I remember uploading this a year ago with naruto winning due to those universal arguments. With it being “ closer than you think” one year later saitama has grown exponentially and instead of remaking the video we let seth do it. Big dubs😭🙏🏾
Post more vidsss
You on crack? 💀 Universal my ass he can't even break a planet.
That's some MASSSSASIVE WANK you got there
@@_------------_ Naruto has zero, I mean zero universal feat, no even Star Level. They always use statements to scale Naruto but scale the opponent based on feat. Why not use Saitama statement of him being the strongest in verse?
@@worldbosspf1Because Saitama’s statement of being the strongest in his verse doesn’t mean he’s the strongest in all verses so that statement holds no weight at all.
Naruto is definitely Cooked and I'm here for it.
Depends On How You Look At The Verses As You Can Easily Argue Naruto Is Uni+ Off The Otsutsuikis Time Spaces.
@christianphrenger7902 Not against Saitama Naruto ain't doing nothing but be a bug to him 😂👌😂😂
@@KingPfrengerokay yapper
Thats obviously not the case and everyone knows
@christianphrenger7902 you can't, maybe ishiki but toneris biggest feat is slicing the moon so he's not even large star level
@@danteshollowedgrounds Saitama Definitely Isn’t Universal Rn In The Anime Or Manga.
Because of the coldnest of space Saitama accidentally sneezes on the Earth where Naruto lives. 🤷
41:40 doesn't scale to god!? Literally during the Garou fight the narrative said no one in existence could observe the power Saitama had grown to god was literally watching that fight. This is a mad ignorant statement.
How so? We don't even know how strong God is. The only thing we know,is that Garou was possesing a little fraction of hes power and made Saitama to grow
@@barnabastoma1075
Garou made Saitama grow by killing Genos. His strength was irrelevant. Plus Saitama already has a default growth amp on him before the emotional amp comes in.
@barnabastoma1075 you don't think saitama will eventually beat the big bad of the series?
@@SuperKamiGuruu I think he deffiniately will,but we don't know how. We cant just assume things and say they are 100% facts
This is some next level of biasness because how are you going to sit there and say Naruto win against a character that transcended time, space and causality itself? Naruto can't do that nor has he defeat anyone who was capable of doing such a thing. Dude doesn't even have the capability to time travel if he wanted to.
Hagoromo exists outside of and transcends + watches over Samsara which exists throughout the Naruto Cosmos so yes there is avenues
@notcensored3917 did you read my comment I said have he defeat any one that's capable of such? Have he did any of that himself? No.
@@XiaoJinx-G6Saitama never defeated anyone who transcends time & space lol
Oh just cause EV existed out side causality doesn't make Saitama to exist outside of it too... Just watch Naruto dude he can already tag beings who don't even exist in the universe
@@Archetype_EarthyLol
@@Archetype_Earthy doesn't need to because he himself can idiot, therefore he scales above naruto, that can't even look at the corpse if his own God without dying 😂 and yes saitma scales above anything empty void can do, and show Me when naruto tagged someone outside cause and effect I'll wait
Remember that time Lobo spit through a guy's head killing him? Saitama could probably do the same.
Nah what is bro smoking 🙏😭
Monster garou bullies naruto
Get monster Garou past Reborn Madara first
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954he clears
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 Lmao
Monster garou has 4D AP because he shook a 4D dimensional seal
@@Deko3349 4D object by itself doesn't scale anywhere
@@tabkg5802it scales to uni
10:04 Congratulations, _Serious Squirtgun victim_
In ur dreams
@@Oblivionking7Gaia canon small planet cry about it 😂🫵
@@Mudmanz Ye its small planetary so what narutos solar system idiot squirt gun wouldn't even tickle😂😂😂😂
22:30 I'm not sure why Saitama not one shotting someone who can copy his strength in an instant (and who he doesn't even want to kill) would indicate that he can't one shot Naruto or that he has limits. Is Naruto able to instantly copy and reflect any attack thrown at him?
he forgot that saitama durability is far higher than his punches which is why garou (who copy saitama durability and stats) did not easily go down in 1 hit
when garou copy saitama power and does the serious punch squared both of them are getting hit with an explosion that is at least 2 times stronger and yet both of them take no damage from it
Because if he was a gag character like yall claimed he would have beat him with one punch. Not saying he loses to Naruto but alot of characters in fiction are claimed to have no limits. Especially in comics so this alone cannot be a argument for him winning against characters
@@DODIRTT Says who? Saitama's gag isn't that he always beats everyone with one punch no matter what. It's just that he's too strong to ever really get the challenge he craves. Even facing his own strength doesn't make him struggle. He'll always be too strong to lose, even if it doesn't make sense.
A lot of characters are claimed to have no limits and are then shown hitting limits. Pushing past limits with immense effort is not the same thing as actually having no limits. Acting like Saitama works the same as any other shonen protagonist is being purposefully ignorant.
@Supreme_Court. bruh thats literally been yall argument for 4 years that he will literally beat anyone with one punch.
Secondly him being too strong to have a challenge is not a gag in the first place. Thats a plot point.
Also you second argument doesn't work. Superman struggles in alot of his fights hes still stronger then Saitama because he not only have better feats but he fights people way stronger the Saitama fights.
This is very lazy and dishonest imo to do vs battles. You cant argue plot is the reason why Saitama wins against someone.
All main characters have plot behind them.
@@DODIRTT Bruh repeating a statement you've heard other people make doesn't counter what I said (or even counter what they said). Him being too strong is both a gag and a plot point. It's the whole point of the series. ONE has called Saitama's strength and existence a kind of gag. There will never be anything that can physically challenge him, unless ONE decides to make fundamental changes.
You scaling Superman higher has nothing to do with him having limits or not. His character does have limits, just like most do. Again, eventually pushing past current limits (and then getting new ones) is not being limitless.
All characters have plot behind them, not just main characters. You aren't saying anything profound here. I never argued plot as a reason for anything, I just corrected your incorrect assumption about what I think Saitama's gag is.
Moral of the story.. Saitama wins
always has been hehe
Moral of the story.. Saitama lose badly*
blood lusted? yes
in character? no to very debatable.
@@purplecadence7390truth seeking orbs would bounce away from saitama bald head, that is just how it is lol
@@G1assWater ok
Saitama solos naruto verse since chapter one, and db at the same time as well
Get him past 3 Eyed Madara first😭😭
TF you mean solos DB as well?
@EdsaelA.PenaNievessolos db as well
@EdsaelA.PenaNieves you think he beats Beerus?
You are right, Saitama solos kid Goku
Saitama beats goku that's why you try to match him and compared him to naruto that's ridiculous😂 your just scared because goku is getting packed up
Haki?
Not even joking when I say goku could fart on saitama and disintegrate him
Goku would fold that universal fodder😂😂
This Misinformation… I’ve been subscribed for years. Explain yourself. I didn’t know you were bias to a fault. I love Naruto a million times more than one punch man but like wtf!. Naruto doesn’t have to be over powered to be one of the greatest stories in anime history.
He needs fake engagement to build his channel back and He chooses the Opm fandom to do so. This isnt even like seth to just straight up lie like this.
He knows people will talk about his shitty take.
I guess I'll elaborate. The video is a collab style video, and Noodles and I have vastly different scalings on both Naruto and Saitama. That is why the video is split in multiple parts and goes over such a vast array of ways to interpret their strength. I'd say all in all, I consider Naruto and Saitama a lot more on the weaker side presented here, whereas Noodles would be more on the stronger side. I think both ways are worth thinking about though. Have a wonderful day.
@ I can respect that. You have my respect for interacting with your community. 💯
@@RedRag684 yall can talk shit all yall want but yall wont even debate the topic. Just cause saitama has flashy feats doesnt mean his best feat scales higher.
@@Alseidiking101 Do you believe naruto beats saitama yes or no?
Dude... what Saitama just did to empty void is like he could drag Kaguya out of her dimensions casually. Naruto could never
Are this guys for real? Saitama one shots tf is this? 😂
Truth seeking orbs are slow asf and saitama not only is faster but immune to damage.
All Naruto has to do is put them before himself and its gg, Saitama touches them and its done
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 Why he didn't do that to Kaguya, Toneri, etc?
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 it still not working on 4d beings
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 let alone 5d and above
One shots is crazy considering he couldn't immediately one shot cosmic garou and Naruto has similar ap to saitama himself atleast at the start of the battle
This is definitely a professional troll video lol and I guarantee Seth after making this video rubbed his hands together like Birdman and laughed himself to sleep saying “this is going to stir shit up “ we all know Naruto is strong but in all of Naruto, including Boruto, we have not seen any real planetary feats beside tonari cutting the moon in half and the moon is smaller than the earth people just assume they can blow up planets in Naruto but in Opm we have literally watched. Saitama split the atmosphere across the planet with the force of his punch, and in the manga, he literally sneezed the atmosphere of Jupiter away. And Jupiter dwarfs earth. We have literally never seen Saitama get injured not even by planet busters there is not one person in Naruto that can beat Saitama and I don’t even like one Punch man
Not even by Multi Galaxy level people 😂 Saitama takes 0 damage.
Also that was a Hollow moon
Haven't watched the video yet, but Saitama, without any limbs and suffering from terminal heart disease will delete Naruto
indeed🥶
Funny thing is I dont think ue can suffer from terminal heart disease anymore
He gets one shot by universal Naruto 🥱
@@ChrisTookFlightNaruto is barely star level calm down kiddo
Easily star lvl, but he still loses.@@fourthhokage1686
Seems weird to point out that OPM is faster because any long distance travel in Naruto is from hax special abilities, then scale naruto to universal because Kaguya can "create or destroy universes". She can use hax to create and destroy universes in the same way that Sasuke created a portal with space time hax to travel far distances quickly.
I don't think she can do an attack capable of destroying a universe, she can use her hax to destroy one of the universes she created. Those are two very different things.
25:48 it would be traveling a lot faster than terminal velocity. It is a vacuum in space so no air resistance. They could be traveling 25 miles per second when they reach earth, the air resistance will slow it down a little bit but it is almost negligible.
Saitama glazing in the comments is insane.
😂 Naruto can wipe Goku
Fr saitama mfs just can except other people have different opinions on this topic
Saitama is just a spit on the face for anime scaling... Bro just grabbed a dimensional blade....
Hell nahh🔥
Naruto held open Kaguya's timespace portal, ur point?
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954was that man outside of the universe or time and space. If not it's not even close
Buu screamed a whole between dimensions because he wanted some chocolate. 😂 😂
@@Dont-like-or-sub-81Naruto can fight beings which exists outside the universe but you don't hear Naruto fans glazing that but Saitama grabs a dimensional blade & he's called Hyperversal
Here's what will happen
Even if naruto goes all out
And uses truth seeking orb
Saitama will casually catch it and say
Why are you throwing rocks on me is this what you call the power of god
You can have your rock back
And casually throw it back and boom naruto is reduced to atom along with multiple mountains and countries behind him
My this statement is much better and exact then your 1 hour os shit lol
Even a naruto fan would accept it but naruto meatrider like you will never 😂 so keep crying
Here's what will happen.
Naruto will throw TSO.
Saitama will catch it.
Saitama will disintegrate
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 prove your statement
Or
From your logic empty void can one shot Goku with his dimensional blade as it also negates durability and cannot be stopped or dodged but Saitama can just hold it CASUALLY with 2 finger and pull him who lies outside of the dimension and pull him like it's physically possible lol
Naruto meatrider are going crazier then jjk meatriders
What's next !
Sukuna one shotting Goku with his slash ahhahahah
@@nobassassin7630
If it negates durability, it would negate Saitama's durability. Therefore it's not durability negation. Saitama never tanked attack that targets soul specifically, nor one that uses all principles in nature, including both time and space(example being TSO being able to destroy current Time space of Kaguya and creating a new one). Therefore Saitama gets his soul erased. Also Goku survived dimension slicing attacks before, such as against Janemba, vice shout from Buuhan etc.
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 that's the fkin point Saitama lies outside of cause and effect that's why no attack affect him
That's the whole point of his character
That's his main fkin power that nothing can injured or affect him no hax no strength that's why he can break logic because he is a character who was written to be purely invincible that's why the show is called opm
If you can't understand it then you should stick with your useless yelling and hair growing anime only
@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 one more thing
Until and unless the author publishes a chapter where Saitama takes damage until then he is invincible
Because if a person
1) removed his limiter and hence is limitless
2) doesn't take any damage doesn't matter what attack enemy uses
3) casually grabs hyperspace gate and move them with his physical hand and catches something which is impossible to catch without hax still he does it without even trying even 1 bit
4) grow exponentially till infinity
5) The author named him one punch man
6) easily did time travel as well
7) many character also mentioned that there is no limit to his energy
So until author himself makes a chapter showing Saitama can take damage until then you have no way of proving otherwise
Only thing you can say is he didn't shown resistance to this attack that attack blah blah
I can also say zeno or anos or alien x haven't shown any resistance to my slipper attack so many I can one shot then with my slipper? This is not how things work kiddo
Go on cry if you want to you can live in your fantasy world where this type of youtuber make fool of you so he can make more money hahaha 🤣
People in this comment section are really salty about the fact that Naruto would clap Saitama if not for the fact that he’s so much slower 😂
Saitama slower? 😂 Nah
@@Mope333 Bro I said Naruto is slower, how how did you misunderstand💀
21:07 an interviewer literally asks if saitama is a gag character _just like Arale_ and Murata says yes. The yap knows no bounds.
Ye saitama maybe a gag character but that still doesn't put him on the level of arale just because ur a gag character doesn't mean ur strong just look at g5 luffy
@@SuperKamiGuruu gag isn't an auto win condition. There's a giant difference between g5 Luffy, Bobobo and Bugs Bunny. One is like planetary large planetary at max, other is high hyper from what I remember and the last is anywhere from outer to boundless lmao
@@tabkg5802
Bobobo and Bugs Bunny are in the same tier of power actually.
@@davidnewhart2533 how is someone who scales above Mxy in the same tier of power with high hyper dude?
@@tabkg5802but g5 luffy isnt a gag character lmao? wtf type of comparison was this do you know what a gag character is??
this is probably the dumbest video I've ever watched😂
The scaling for Naruto makes no sense.
Kuramas databooks are HYPERBOLIC, as similar statements were made about Tamari and others. So if you want to use them, you'd have to accept all of them are LITERAL.
How is Kaguya universal in physical stats? She made her dimensions with CHAKARA. How long did take? What tanking feat does she have that is UNIVERSAL? etc ... etc
Under no circumstances does this make Naruto "universal" in attacking power, just because Kaguya could create "dimensions" as neither scale to this PHYSICALLY. Kaguya got injured by Sakara ... A canon thing.
Saintama is LITERALLY showing us his feats, Naruto's "feat" are the biggest "ifs" takes. Good video but no. Saintama curb stomps.
She destroyed the dimensions with her own chakra and no, she used that jatsu in the fourth data book and she can rewrite reality using that jatsu I forgot the name for it but it’s in the fourth data book
Kurama isn't hyperbolic when massive scales above a canon that can blow up the Moon and has a moon level calc of destroying the meteors around Earth
Chakra is half physical energy and her strongest attack is stated to be Vaccuum Palm which Naruto overpowers and she tanks hits from him
Considering she is doing it in the middle of a fight I'll highball it to an hour
Sakura scales to Six Paths tier so not really an Anti-Feat
@@ahmedhassan-t7t8t Again .... Her chakara, thank you for proving my point.
@@notcensored3917 Sakura doesn't scale to ANY SP characters wtf 🤣
They were going to TELEPORT the moon, NOT destroy it. Naruto split a HOLLOW moon, not remotely planetary.
Chakara is not half physical, wtf? they literally explain what chakara is in the story.
False
Nothing beats seth solo content, no hate on chuck or anyone else but seth just brings the energy and fluidity no one else can match
Totally disagree, bro be sounding like a zombie sometimes
The duality of man XD
@@WavedashnoirI honestly don’t know what makes you feel this way.
@@T6Demobro sounds nothing like himself 25 min in rn
This isn't a solo video though
You have to glaze tf out of naruto and underscale tf out of Saitama to get close to this argument
What's with the hype on truth seeking orbs? Did we forget that naruto literally just kicked them 😭
It's gonna be a miracle if the orb even damages saitama's outfit somehow
He only kicked them because he sage of six paths power
@@Vuden13 And Saitama is literally a god, what is sage of six paths power to that.
@@Vuden13and saitama catch a sword that can cut anything, space, ignoring distance, energy and mass with his fingertip
@@G1assWateryea and can be dodged by flashy flash and could only cut mountains
@manwaar6699 Because he's targeting a specific area doesn't mean the attack is necessarily limited to whatever he's targeting as it's stated to cut space itself, meaning it can cut the framework, because time and space r inseparable and they create a framework.
A better match up would be boros vs naruto.
Naruto fans need to be studied. Their level of delusion is actually crazy😂
The growth in their delusion, much like DB fans, is exponential. Which each OPM chapter release, they grow exponentially more delusional. I don't think anyone can catch up.
Everything they said is from the databooks
Your stupidity is astounding
@@angrymeowngitrue they copy opm fans of being illusional.
i bet you dont even know a single naruto feat
I don't see Naruto destroying Jupiter with a sneeze 💀
He sent ripples throughout the ENTIRE universe by EXISTING
@jamevolve8380 No he didn't lmao. Mf thinks Naruto is Goku 💀
how would that make sense in the narrative of naruto?
@@jaydo787 Exactly
@@platinumvoid1648 fym exactly he can do it why does it make sense for him to do it at all in the series?
Saitama doesn't have a 'Full Power'.
All of these Blank vs Saitama wanks always attempt to compare feats. Saitama specifically is written to break opponent feats.
It doesn't matter what the opponent brings, whether they affect time, space or reality. Saitama brushes off the attack, often confused by what the attack is as he grabs things that are impossible to grab and ponders what they are.
Seth knew about the empty void feat an still found a way to lowball him
Bro fell off 😂 .... This is def a unsubscribe moment for me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
craziest naruto glazing ever, u ruined my day with this bullshit
1hr just to glaze Naruto is crazy but the conclusion of TSO makes sense yeah, Naruto can't physically contend with saitama cuz realistically he physically out scales Naruto in every way... And let's stop scaling That empty void feat more than it is cuz it's not that impressive blocking that attack doesn't make him Immeasurable speed cuz it has a travel speed flashy flash and sonic can react too, so Immeasurable is false
It’s doesn’t a debate even if I like Naruto but Saitama slams you don’t need to make a hour video just for this debate 💀💀
Multi galaxy vs Universal +
@@SawyerFan.1he’s not universal
@@Lucifier-2 So, Beating and overpowering a Universal threat several times doesn't make you universal? especially Cutting their goddamn arm off?
That doesnt require universal AP?
@@SawyerFan.1how are they a universal threat?
@@Xis_sa 1.About to destroy one 2.Moving the entire Naruto universe several times 3.Stated to create them at will
Conclusion: if in character and Saitama lets Naruto attack at first, Saitama will lose but if he gets serious from the start then he will blitz Naruto because even though he’s so much weaker ironically, Naruto could never keep up with him if they were both blood lusted
Don't You Know Why Saitama Is Called One Punch Man?
Death Battle gonna do a debunk video now😂😂
OPM universe so funny I could just see him juggling the truth seeking orbs before tossing them back 😂
You just ignored the whole video, Saitama is dying from TSO off contact, Naruto is way stronger and has way more massive power and better and more hax. Naruto would literally make him blitz clones and then surprise him as the real one.
@ I think you’re taking these verses battles too seriously 😂 I’m not discrediting anything that was said in the video. I simple stated how funny it would be for saitama to be saitama🤷🏾♂️
I guess Naruto wipes Goku too 😂
Can Naruto fart at light speed? No? Case closed.
Garou is stated to have KNOWLEDGE of the flow of all energies in the universe, not to have the energy of all the universe. And he's using portals, not teleporting. It's not a speed feat to follow him through a portal.
Seth, fire whoever did your OPM research, this man is a clown who couldn't scale his way out of a wet paper bag.
It can be used as a speed feat because Saitama didn't follow through the hyperspace to catch up he used his fart you can tell he didn't follow Garou through the hyperspace portal because behind Garou there were no portals when he was celebrating meaning he didn't follow through
@@callisto1796 Except he literally did follow him through the portal and you can literally see it on-panel when he's explaining it.
I'm starting to believe I'm the only person on the internet who actually reads the series they power scale and everyone else just watches TikTok edits on it.
@@duncanmcokiner4242 expect it just showed he was chasing after him and never showed that he entered quite literally shows Garou celebrating with nobody behind him… no hyperspace behind him indicating that Saitama did not follow him through the portal
@@duncanmcokiner4242 i mean there are panels showing garou alone which wouldn't make sense if saitama went inside the portal too.
@@duncanmcokiner4242 You not being accepting of that doesn't mean I'm not reading
Seriously a dimensional slash that ignore size and distance catch with two finger and we never seen saitama get hurt not even garou copying Saitama power hurt saitama cause he grows too fast and eventually people keep down playing empty void feat and Saitama even swim in lava while naruto and sasuke almost died in lava and a normal sword can hurt naruto men so many things that can hurt Naruto like object it isnt even funny 😂
Also do not forget that Saitama pulled Empty void outside of the casualty back to earth 😂
Naruto has a lava rasengan? Minato is faster than obito's time space jutsu in Naruto's way faster than that.
1. Most Delusional UA-camr Ever...
2. Truth Seeking Orbs aren't stronger than Void's Dimension Slash..
Saitama Neg-Diffed Dimension Slash...
3. Saitama is so strong that No One in Existence can Fathom his Power.. OPM God does exist, so God is definitely weaker than Saitama...
Cosmic Garou was able to fight Saitama only because of Saitama Mode... It was like Saitama vs Saitama...
4. Naruto cannot survive Void's Dimension Slash...
Dimension Slash ignores Distance, size, scale and Energy.. It strike regardless of how strong the opponent is..
5. Catching Dimension Slash, pulling Void Back from Hyperspace space(hyperspace in OPM is at least 5D), Grabbing Hyperspace Gates, these feets makes Saitama atleast 7D on Low Ball...
6. Serious Punch Squared was Nerfed.. Blast and his crew sent more than 75% of SPS's Energy to another Dimension..
7. Saitama and Garou didn't target the Galaxies, They punched each other and most of the damage, energy and power were tanked by them.
8. SPS made hole in the Universe... It isn't Multi Galaxy Level, it literally destroyed everything including Countless Galaxies and Space around them..
9. Less than 25℅ of SPS's shock waves and energy created a void in the universe..
It wasn't 25% of SPS that made a hole in the universe, it was less than 25% of SPS's Shockwaves that did those damage..
10. Saitama's Normal rate of Growth is so fast that he can overpower Himself from a nano second ago as Saitama was Overpowering Garou who was as strong as Saitama from a nano second ago...
11. He can Grow Exponentially on top of his Normal Growth rate.... If Saitama with his normal growth rate can Overpower himself from a fraction of a nano second ago, it becomes unimaginable to comprehend his exponential growth..
12. Saitama becomes resistance to any Hax ability thrown at him...
He is so strong that Space erasing power doesn't work on him, Telekinesis doesn't work, literally copy his power doesn't work and attacking with more than that power doesn't work as not only Garou was copying Saitama's power but he was growing strong than the Saitama he copied since Garou growth is also too fast..
13. Saitama doesn't need to worry about his opponent's power as his just learn than and adopt them... He learned time travel from a Guy who didn't mastered Time travel him.. In chap 164 Saitama wasn't able to see God's foot but in chap 168 he could listen to God's Voice and reacted to it... In his Fight against Boros, Saitama hold is breath on the moon.. But in Jupiter he didn't need to breathe...
14. He just do whatever he wants breaking logic and rules...
15. It was stated Multiple times that Saitama has Immeasurable Energy, immeasurable power.
Boros told Saitama has Immeasurable Energy and power.
Blast said Saitama's power is Impossible to Fathom.
Blast is someone who can manipulate the reality of the cosmos even he said it is impossible to fathom, he didn't said the he personally cant fathom Saitama power, he said no one can pathom..
16. I don't even remember what Genos said in Chap 169 , but he said something like, Saitama is the strongest in the multiverse..
17. Saitama is so powerful that King's Reality bending Luck doesn't work on Saitama... Only Saitama know King's Secret..
18. Saitama has no Limits
19. Saitama has infinite Power
20. Saitama has Infinite Potential.
21. Saitama has Infinite Potential + Infinite Power..
Infinite Potential is actually better than Infinite Power..
22.. Base Cosmic Garou Universal at minimum .. And without Saitama Mode he can't fight with Saitama..
23. Saitama never went all out..
24. Saitama can Oneshot anyone.. The only he wasn't oneshot while holding back was Saitama Mode Cosmic Garou. .
25. Boros isn't Multi Continental. He solos the Naruto Shippuden..
All of these are not my head cannon.. All evidence are right there, just read the official Viz OPM chapters...
And Saitama solos Naruto Verse with a Casual Fart.
Naurto claps. Stop crying
1. No
2. They dont need to be, they have different mechanics
3. This isnt stated anywhere
4.naruto isnt fighting void
5.naruto caught hyperspace gates too, and 7-D is pure headcanon not based on anything
6. Serious punch squared is irrelevant they already said saitamas stronger
7. Again not relevant , no one said naruto wins by punching him
8. No lmao, this just didnt happen, nothing universal here.
9. Okay still not relevant
10. Again not relevant, they already said hes stronger.
11. Not relevant
12. Headcanon never shown or stated, he also got temporal nulled.
13. Not relevant
14. Headcanon
15. Not relevant
16. Not relevant
17. Headcanon
18-21 not relevant, again, they agreed hes stronger
22. Headcanon non provable+scared of jupiter busting
23. He did for a moment against garou
24. Failed to do so against garou
25. Boros is multi continental, he gets destroyed by any six paths character
Average opm brain cant comprehend anything
Adapt to getting a soul erased.
@@andrejmisev2386 You didn't even read the OPM manga properly.. All that I have stated are proven in Manga and are canon. Read the Official OPM manga... Pay attention to each and every detail... You are full of Head cannon and ignorance.
You just ignored what is being said and shown in the manga..
If you can't reply with a strong argument you say its irrelevant and you claim that manga confirmed facts and statements are Headcanon... Everything that I said is Cannon and true to the story.. You should remove the lens of ignorance and negligence and read the Manga properly...
Truth Seeking Orb are inferior to Void's Dimension Slash with is atleast 5D ..
Tatsumaki Low Diffs Naruto Shippunden....
Tatsumaki is Planetary at minimum.
Psykorochi and Orochi are also near that tier with the AP..
Boros in base is Planetary and MB Boros is Star Level..
the thing is for some reason, saitama always defends against a ninja attack. idk why but he just does. every instance he is attacked by either sos sonic or flashy flash(and recently empty void) he catches any of their
attacks. Additionally, Saitama has dodged attacks from Genos during their sparring match. Saitama also worries about his clothes getting potentially damaged, so he wouldn’t want naruto to just straight up attack him with a large attack. So, it’s not entirely correct to assume that saitama always just let attacks happen to him.
even if he does land a truth seeking orb attack, the second he feels damage he could just dash away.
legit shows it right here too
53:52
Amps in Naruto aren’t multipliers they add onto your base power with the expansion of all of the 8 gates which are multipliers
I'm surprised they don't understand their own show
Naruto is like multi continental to moon lvl at best. There's not a single planetary feat in the whole Naruto verse. Saying he's solar system is just funny. And Saitama doesn't have immesurabel speed where did even get that?
For saitama to catch the Dimensional Slash you need to be around that speed because the Dimensional slash comes from a Higher Dimension outside of Causality and ignores distance, Size and Energy
@@balex55lp The slash has travel speed and Falshy Flash was able to react to it
"Not a single planetary feat" there's enough statements for that+ Juubis sheer chakra being compared to small planet and Kaguya being able to create dimensions with AT LEASR planets in them
this is the brain dead biased seth i know. just ignore how boruto power scaling doesnt make sense or show off those feats its purely statements. eos naruto made not a lick of sense. the win condition is truth seeking orbs and saitima not dodging them. if thats the case naruto would never use them like that. but also saitima is grabbing the truth seeking orb no problem just like he kicked a portal.
Boruto powerscaling makes sense people are just stupid to understand it.
But no this match is not even close saitama one shots him still.
@@jimjamjon2285what are saitamas feats that puts him above Naruto then?….
Idk probably sneezing a planet away, that alone has more destructive capacity than anything in the naruto series, and that’s the lowest of low balls for Saitama.
@@x-immortalkill-x5596naruto has 0 feats of being planetry , all are statements and implications ,if someone else wants to be disingenuous to naruto he would be in multicontinental to moon level tiers while saying saitama can touch hyperspace so he is 5D
This video is just glazing naruto to multiversal which is just wrong
Wow 4 guys here all of whom are idiots and saitama Glazers no planetary feats for naruto in 2024 is absurd living under a rock I see get saitama past ichigo first
Good video. Make sure to watch it until literally the very end. Spoilers below...
Gotta say, even ignoring the most recent chapters I'd still give it to Saitama. The issue is that Naruto would have to kill Saitama in one shot with his abilities. In Naruto, even things like the Truth Seeking Orbs typically erase portions of the body, like an arm, leg, or else. In that case, Saitama would become way more serious and just blitz + one tap Naruto. Same with his other hax abilities.
As for their higher end scaling, Saitama still outscales even the highest ends presented in the video.
God's Hyperspace dimension is very explicitly higher-dimensional relative to not just 3-D space, but entire space-time continuums, going by it being "outside causality."
You could even argue that "causality" there refers to not just an individual universe, but the entire sequence of cause and effect by which the multiverse splits out infinitely.
Bare minimum, that space is 5th-dimensional with that interpretation. You could even argue 6-D if you believe in Many-Worlds Interpretation.
Time is not the 4th dimension
Saitama surviving every hax thrown at him in his series.
These guys claiming Saitama will probably die from truth seeking obs or some generic hax. 😂😂😂
I am sure they'll keep making these video everytime Saitama keeps surviving more stupid hax abilities each arc. Each time we will come back here and laugh and go back to our normal lives.
kaguyas tso was gonna destroy a universe, base truth seeking orbs have existence eraser. So what are you on about?
@@jaydo787they’re just yapping to fulfill their bias. Then make claims like “well if he can’t survive now, he will be able to in the future” that’s like me saying Naruto might become the jinchuriki of a new ten tails when he’s out of kawaki’s dimension. These guys are clowns
@ literally im convinced they didnt watch the vid, just skipped to the end and went ape shit
I think it could have been worth mentioning Saitamas hax resistances since hax are just as if not more important in Naruto than pure stats.
Saitama has casually resisted psychic/spiritual attacks, broken into pocket dimensions and interacted with/stopped higher dimensional things like Garous wormholes or empty voids slashes.
Not to mention the implication of his reverse causality punch.
The truth is, Saitama still holds back and I believe his defense is orders if magnitude higher than the offensive feats he has already displayed.
The psychic thing isn't really feat, the pocket dimension feag has context and grabbing portals is minor spatial hax
No biggie
@@SawyerFan.1
Its a feat because it shows he isnt necessarily affected by supernatural powers.
And his "minor spatial hax" are still enough to counter tons of stuff in Naruto. Now Imagine what he could do If he was going all out.
@SawyerFan.1 no it's just just minor spacial hax. You're spamming misinformation
“Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb” ahh fight 😭🙏🙏🗣️🔥
My toji is cooler than yours
no way bro said naruto still wins.. clearly he didn't read the next chapter of opm
I literally talked about the latest chapter in the video
@@noodlesyoutuberkeep up the good content man but one day saitama will surpass naruto
@@donnelleraeburn9207 the next chapter is still only galaxy in terms of feats and a bit of spacial hax, so what?
Naruto is this man's life.
@@Lucifier-2 he’s already faster and stronger lol he’s only worse in terms of hax and hax resistance but yeah his character mentality is really bad for a fight like this
Dunno i don't really like that whole argument that truth seeker orbs would kill saitama when we saw characters even like Might Guy punch Madara through the truth sphere which he created to cover himself and plus in new OPM manga as shown in the video empty void slashes are stated to be able to cut anything in lower dimensions.
Madara is resistant to the Orb Guy literally had to avoid direct contact with them dawg just read the fight for the love of god
@@notcensored3917 yeah i know but if someone like madara or almost any Six path class character can negate the effects of them doesnt really make them absolute erasure. Edit also my whole point was about the fact that someone broke Truth seeking orbs with pure strengh.
@@Igrafel madara got kicked by guy which caused the orb to weaken. They had to kamui the orb to bypass the orb and let guy in to begin with. The orb didn’t break because guy kicked it. It broke because when madara got kicked and nearly died it weakened and broke. Just like when guy hit madara’s susanoo with his hirudora it caused his wood style entrapping the 8 tails weakened to break. They spent the entire fight trying to avoid the TSO’s ofc they can’t resist it. Also having a higher dimensional power blade doesn’t randomly give you existence erasure
@@noodlesyoutuber I guess you could interpret it that way damage taken = lower defense them but it never been shown again or atleast i don't remember such clear example plus does that also mean the other aspects would also go down like attack potency atd?? or is it only defense because that would be weird also also if the potency would actually fluctuate how you seem to suggest that would imply its not existence erasure but attack that simply attacks body and soul which is completety different tier. To end this like i said it empty void cleary stated that he cuts space itself which would be same tier as truth seeker only difference would be that TSO also attacks spirit but we also know that saitama has atleast spiritual resistance if anything so it really depends how high you wanna push the effectiveness of TSO. Edit also massive issue in general with TSO is that they just stop deleting people past Six path level which makes pinpointing exact power of them difficult.
@@Igrafel ”damage taken=lower defense” madara got hit with an attack that nearly killed him. That means the structure at which that was holding the tso up easily could have been weakened just like the structure that was holding up the wood style was weakened when guy hit him with hirudora. Guy never touched the tso he simply hit madara who then crashed through his own tso. Guy cannot touch TSO’s at all or he will get erased this is explicitly stated and shown several times. “You’re saying the power fluctuates” no I didn’t say the power fluctuates it still can have existence erasure properties but madara is simply unable to maintain the structure of his truth seeking orb when taking a near death attack. There’s nothing debunking the fact it’s existence erasure whatsoever. It literally is stated to erase you and is shown to erase even the soul and saitama has never resisted having his soul erased. Pinching a blade with 4D power does not grant you existence erasure resistance it grants you 4D power. Saitama being able to break into a spiritual realm does not mean he can resist his soul being erased either because naruto can grab his own soul and interact with his own soul and can manipulate spiritual energy to rip souls out of other people as well like he did with juubito. Even considering this fact Tobirama still told naruto that if he gets touched with the orbs he will get erased
thanks for the video. Glad to know you are still around and hopefully you are doing fine.
I will have to make a video refuting this bruh... rare Seth L
Calm down bro.
@EdsaelA.PenaNieves I'm fine man
if you do dont forget to add the fact naruto scales to low multi lmao
@@Alseidiking101 of course he scales to low multi... let's make him omniversal while we're at it
@@FandangoVA i mean thats nice logic we can use to favor my side but im afraid i wouldnt need it
the boros downplay is insane
why do you put saitama in character but make naruto basically be out for his head instantly
@p_rneliushubert naruto can sense his power so I doubt he’d hold back
@ but it’s not in character for him to try to kill someone for no reason
@@noodlesyoutuberwhat if he doesn't hold back? He ain't doing shi 😂
@p_rneliushubert if he views saitama as an enemy he would
@@EVILDEAD-je2rh he could one tap with a truth seeking orb
I have to be in a genjutsu, how is he uploading so many videos??
He does every year around this time.
Honestly i appreciate the effort you put into this video. You always do an amazing Job. This one is an absolute Miss to me respectfully. No slight against the video at all, its absolutely quality 👍🏿. I don't think we watched the same Naruto growing up or read the same mangas respectfully. Anyway cant wait to see your next video.
40:00 please…stop my brain hurts 😭😂