Meh triple tactics talent kinda did that. You could play floowandereeze normal summons to laugh, or special summon to make a deck out for Maxx C as even block dragon Counter nibiru to keep going.
@franckize oh that gets floowandereeze lol kinda an improvement even with the +6 limit let alone you can play other hand traps like impermanence to stay within. Would be funny if dust tornado setting a card ever became useful, but it's too slow.
@GamerZeroZX Actually is not. A Normal Set is close, since it takes your Normal Summon of the turn, but is also not exactly a Normal Summon, or a Summon at all, which is why you can still Set monstet u der effects that prevent you from Summons. A Flip Summon is the act to specifically flip face-up manually, during your turn, a monster that was Set a previous turn. This can be done in addition to your Normal Summon, but it cannot be done the same turn a monster was placed on field, since they cannot change battle position on the same turn they wete Summon/Set. Is not the same as being flip face-up in any other way, like by battle or by effect, which is why monster like Guardian Sphynx and similar (think on the PACMAN monsters for example) will not activate if flipped by an attack, they have to specifically be Flip Summoned.
@@GamerZeroZX Ah yes, the feeling when you can't Normal Summon for the rest of the turn after you Flip Summoned your Magician of Faith. Classical moment and the reason why Tsukuyomi never saw play at all and was at 3 for its entire existence. lol.
How did you even find old footage of people talking about maxx c on release. The grain of the camera just brings back that early 2010s nostalgia. Great vid, and written so damn well.
The reason I think Maxx C is not good for the game is how it warps deck building around it. After a certain rank in Master Duel (almost) everyone plays all the copies (3) they can of it and also all the possible counters, Ash Blossom (3), Called By The Grave (2), and Crossout Designator (1), so before you even decide what you want to play, 9 cards at least are already decided, almost a quarter of a regular 40 card deck. For a lot of decks it just makes them not have enough space to play fun tech cards, and since there are some many outs to it, it rarely resolves so the most it does its discard Ash Blossom from the hand of the opponent. The thing is, this is a best of one game so sometimes you play against stun or Floowandereeze or other decks that are immune to Maxx C so having these cards in your hand feels horrible. If you play the game you might have noticed Konami bans Maxx C from almost all monthly festivals, so they know this card is not fun.
The way I like to play is playing labyrinth furniture without handtraps except for Maxx c, so I can set my hand turn one and depend on my engine going second
@@minepool4343 Purple Card Turbo is one of those decks that functions better without Handtraps, as they often don't care about being hit by handtraps themselves, and Reasoning/Monster Gate gets stronger the less hand traps are in the deck to whiff on. It's still only a Rogue contender though. Resolving Balance of Judgement from GY with Rollback is still hilarious though.
When MD was new, I laddered to whatever the highest rank was with CyDra. At first I used normal machine dupe otk stuff and I did hit the rank, but the next couple of months I realized it was better if I was going hard second to just run trap cydra to make my life vs Maxx C easier. Got to that rank again 2 more times and then I dropped it bc Maxx C is so toxic
Modern yugioh has gone full circle to the OP staples of the DM era. It reduces 10K card options to the same 5 cards on every deck, and then your op monsters of the last set
one big reason for the tcg not being as popular as master duel is the price. in master duel, the most expensive a card can be is 30 ur points. some exceptions are banned cards, alt arts, and structure deck exclusives (if thats still a thing). its absolutely possible to compete at a high level without spending any money. in the tcg, a single card can cost anywhere from a few cents to 100 dollars and beyond, and power level isnt the only factor here. even a rogue deck can cost a new player 200 dollars because theyre gonna need some staples, and some deck specific cards that konami decided should be a secret rare will still be expensive because theyre just less available. i dont play master duel more than tcg because i accept maxx c, i play it because its the only way i can enjoy competitive yugioh without having to spend money. i could use 3rd party simulators to play tcg, but thats just not what i wanna do. getting told to kms because i play a competitive deck in the competitive mode isnt fun. so yeah, master duel is a miserable experience anytime maxx c resolves (and just in general anytime anything abuses its best-of-1 format), but its the best i can get, and its free. of course thats gonna make it a more desirable way to play for many people. theres also the fact that master duel is just.. more fun to watch. i dont know any numbers, but i wouldnt be surprised if master duel gameplay in general gets more viewers than like dueling book gameplay. another thing that would make master duel more popular than tcg, i guess
I mostly agree. Card prices are borderline predatory in the TCG and a big factor why it is hard to get into the game. Even harder to get into the competitive scene. However the format is that much better than MD and OCG. We often ban the problem cards instead of limiting everything. Look at Kash for example: No Arise-Heart (and obviously Mindhacker) is all it takes. Now Kash is a decent engine but not oppressive at all. The only slightly frustrating card that remains is Unicorn. The only thing I'd wish for all formats is to kill dedicated stun decks finally. The game would definitely be better without Barrier Statues, Fossil Dyna, Rivalry/Gozen & co... TCG's best of 3 format helps to not auto-lose if you face stun going second, but especially MD fucked up and limited Eldlich, Runick and other cards instead of tackling the actual problem cards.
You're not ever beating video games in terms of entertainment versus money spent, its a completely ludicrous comparison. That being said there's a lot of barriers to entry in playing the tcg. I don't find the price to be particularly absurd, its a pretty clear third behind finding a place to play the game locally and the inherent complexity of the game. Its also a rather flexible price point you have for the game, I got into the game in 2019 with a few ash blossoms from the soul burner structure and like 80 dollars of orcust and super quantal cards, I didn't really have to pay for another deck until adamancipator in 2020, and that deck lasted me 9 months. Granted I had a good locals scene for getting store credit and played online for years previously so I was immediately going positive in value.
A lack of Max C or overly degenerate formats isn’t the reason the American TCG is unpopular. The printing practices of the TCG branch is entirely to blame. The rarity distribution and archetypical design of the game makes pack filler worthless. The only playable cards will always be $60+ secret rares. The only main sets that sell are bought by stores, who open them to sell marked up foil singles to competitive players. The product just isn’t worth it. Compare yugioh tcg to ocg or to a game like pokémon to see how the anti-consumer design of the sets killed their popularity.
This was a startlingly well put together video. Informative, not clickbait by putting the cardname right at the start, really cleanly edited, felt personal to you, and with some fun iykyk references like that FMA fusion. kudos and hope this helps you build your channel!
This video is so well made, it's awesome! Can I point out that the TCG isn't only played in North America though? We play the TCG format in the UK, and it's played in Europe, South America and Oceania too. It's a common mistake that American players seem to make. The only difference in the formats is that Jump promos aren't legal outside of the US until they're reprinted in an official set.
The only people complaining about Max c are the ones trying to summon unnecessarily ridiculous shit loads of monsters. It's literally a perfect way to counter/temper your opponent from summoning stupid amounts of monsters.
11:10 This stuff about Maxx C causing a de-lineation in playstyle between formats isn't necessarily true. The best decks in the TCG and OCG have been largely the same across the years since the formats have split after all. Combo decks that have the ability to set-up into Maxx C without giving too many free cards like Tearlaments could with Sulliek pass, or decks that can take a turn off and can leverage the fact that they play 20 pieces of non-engine to buy a turn. Decks like these have over performed with and without Maxx C. Even with how much the card affects deck building and game play, Maxx C doesn't factor that much into what the best decks are into any given format. It's not interesting enough to have that kind of power.
Even if the best decks are similar, their card contents tend to be quite different. I remember RE Dark Dragoon basically not existing in TCG bc the main draw in OCG for him was how you could summon him for only 1 or 2 special summons but that wasn't enough in TCG.
its almost completely false, there are decks (unchained) that do better in the west due to no maxx c but they are few and far between and 90% of the time the two formats are exactly the same
@@ellachino4799 dragoon came out in japan pretty far in advance of rise of the duelist which contained triple tactics talent and forbidden droplet, the two best counters to dragoon while we got it well after that set. maxx c probably had a little to do with the popularity verte-dragoon plays i would hesitate to say its a big factor considering destroyer phoenix enforcer was also a verte target and was played in both formats.
@@Snookems64 dude it absolutely was. Numerous high level players (and ytubers) have talked about that. Dragoon wasn't the Plan A of most decks but it was a really powerful Plan B of a deck in the ocg after getting maxx c'd
If anything it is the complete opposite for example SHS was a plague in the OCG meta game a super fast ignorant combo deck. meanwhile in the TCG you have Unchained and Runick decks(midrange and control) being a larger part of the meta game during that time period. OCG players don't try at all try to play control/midrange style decks and that is mainly a TCG thing.
The editing on this is really excellent, nice job! What you bring up about the OCG and Master Duel being really popular even though they're formats that include Maxx "C" is interesting to me. Maxx "C" is one of the most hated cards in TCG-land, to the point where many people here deem it a huge reason they don't enjoy Master Duel. I would be curious about what people in the OCG think of it and if it's presence is a positive force on the game, since it's largely gone from a controversial card to a downright hated card here in the west.
i think its to keep words simple for un-experienced players. he clearly summons a lvl 4 this way in the vid so any misunderstanding is also cleared up by just watching. Its also funny to me that people point these things out, like hes gunna edit the vid and re-upload it or something.
@@stinkygoat2686 "less than 4" or "4 or less" is no difference in complexity, it's just a slip-up. Can't argue with the "he clearly summons a lvl 4" bit, but even if comments like these aren't necessarily reason for an edit, they serve both as "Here you can do better next time." and a resolution to the arising question "What's with 4, then?" for clueless people like me who didn't catch the lvl 4 monster being played by themselves.
@@stinkygoat2686dude that doesn't make it easier to understand it makes it harder to understand for people who aren't experienced. Being clear with language is a good thing. Pointing it out helps people who might be confused.
Yeah, sorry everyone. I just commented when I've watched the video only until that point. I guess it becomes more clear later on in the video. However, my comment is still correct, so ...
As someone who’s not played Yugioh in a a staggeringly long time, there’s something so hilarious about seeing a set named SUPREME DARKNESS with a black background and creepy box art and the preview card next to it is a cute lil cat flower thing and that card is like $100.
Back when Maxx C first released I managed to get one from a friend who didn’t know how good it was. To be fair, neither did I, but it’s funny to see the best card in the game sitting in my bulk.
Amazing video essay! Great video quality! Especially for someone relatively newer! Gonna have to subscribe and check out your other stuff! Quick clarification at 6:51 though. The sound effect/animation for drawing certain cards is specifically for drawing cards that are limited to 1 in the format. In fact, during the special Duel Trial where every card was limited to 1, the effect would happen every time you'd draw for turn. So it's special, but not THAT special.
Edit: the "Deck cost" thing sounds like a great idea, because I play a lot of wargames and they've got points costs for all the units. The points costs aren't always balanced, but it does drive players to be more efficient in their army builds, because often times you can't throw 9 of the strongest tank in the game into one army, because you'll run out of points.
I’ve had countless duels that go like this. I normal summon They maxx c I end my turn They normal summon I maxx c They summon a bunch, I draw, nibiru They end turn I pop off
This was a really good video! Props! The part about deck cost is something I've been thinking about Duel Costs to keep a certain balance in the game, in like an alternate format, but obviously it would be kind of impossible to implement. The only way I see it being a thing is with a community effort. There a lot of the older games (Like the mentioned Duelist of the Rose in your video) that do that though so that can be some kind of inspiration.
As a guy who spent the first five to ten years of yu-gi-oh trying to get into it, only to be flummoxed by the whole thing and the quitting, only to be dragged back in by my friends to start the whole process over again. I have to say this whole problem is hilarious to me. You know how other card games deal with this problem... set list. You don't have to deal with power creep if an old card is no longer usable in the modern format of the card game.
Part of why the new cards demonstrate the power is that they are still potentially viable despite the added drawback. Arguably other than the fact that they split it up into 3 different types of special summoning, it really didnt lose much utility. The whole 'feels bad' of it is when they build a giant board, and then now you are letting them draw into handtraps that can stop you from building your board. Might be better if those cards are set into your hand 'face down' so that 1 - the opponent knows what you got, and 2 - because they are face down, they are almost un-usable. Then during end-phase you can flip them face up. Maybe give it a hard once per turn 'You may flip a facedown card in your hand face up' so that you can still counter 1 thing, but at the highest levels, you generally can play though a single hand trap.
I feel like yugioh these days is a lot of just drawing cards that win in the spot be it droll or Nibiru or Dark Ruler No More or Shifter or Raigeki or Maxx C. What makes a meta deck meta is the ability to cram as many instant win cards in their deck as possible and still be about to OTK when the time comes
While maxx c is broken some people are sleeping on super polymerization, are you telling me that my oponent can just yoink my win con, use it to fuse summon his wincon, and then technically beat my ass with my onw card
Balance should be considered carefully for any card or effect that disables response. Currently Konami is just leaning into Super Poly like it's no big deal, it is a big deal.
Super Poly is dependent on format and deck, most decks cannot play the targets, and a lot of modern decks can play around it by not letting you poly anything away without investment first (aka not having two monsters of same attribute or type that they aren't willing to lose anyway)
Yes. Because Konami also says it's legal to yoink your win con and then proceed to cook that win con like a fish in a frying pan to temp buff an obstinate chef while ALSO yoinking any one other win con with a kaiju, then proceeding to nuke the board with a zeus. ....or just sit there with the chef that gives no shits until either he gets outed/circumvented or you just win
To me, the perfect maxx c would have this effect, keeping exactly what it is and is SUPPOSED to be, but also a lot fairer: "You can only activate the effect of "Maxx C" once per turn, in the first turn of the duel. Send this card from your hand to the GY; every time your opponent special summons a monster this turn: draw one card. During your next turn after the activation of this card, you can only special summon a number of monsters up to the number of cards drawn by this effect."
Also, I don't fully agree that the OCG is more control oriented because of Maxx C, master duel has Maxx C at 3 and most of the top decks are combo decks that often can't combo under Maxx C, and very recently, with the infection of combo decks that can full combo you with one card like yubel, snake eyes and ryzeal you see far more combo decks topping in those formats than control decks, mainly because even when getting maxx c'ed they have the back up of a thousand handtraps of their own that previous combo decks did not have. A lot of people used to say that even back then, but combo decks were never kept in check by maxx c, the ocg just played more control decks because that was the average profile of ocg players. If you want an example of that, just look at early master duel, with Halq into linkross into metal marcher into auroradon being literally every deck from that period until konami purged all the cards that were already banned everywhere else from the game
Straight out take speed counters from Yugioh 5D’s and implement it to deck cost. There was a few episodes of duel night where they did that. Which was cool and great to see implemented.
great video bro. I watch yugi youtube all day long and this is one of, if not the best, video i’ve ever seen. great production, script, narrative, voice and comedy. i’d drop a superlike if I could 👌
Honestly I'm no pro at yu gi oh or anything but I feel like the main issue I've come across is not the player going second drawing it but the player who went first and has already set up their board being able to fire off a maxx c during the second player's turn making it basically unwinnable lmao
Well, for me personally, Maxx C didn't brings the worst memory because I had several copies of them very early on and when I afked, I was so surprised to find their prices skyrocketing. The exciting part of the story has to be that Konami finally decided to print Maxx C several times so that I could afford 3 of them on my returning.
17:07 they actually does something similar to that in master duel called N/R, where they limit the cards rarity I think? There's also the festivals where most meta cards are banned + limited
Maxx "C" is a lose-lose situation when it's played against you, it doesn't give you a choice, it gives the illusion of choice. When Maxx "C" resolves, you have the options to: Pass turn, which in modern ygo is suicide, as even midrange decks have no issue putting 8000 damage on the field in one turn, especially with Accesscode Talker that most decks can (and do) run. Special summon as little as possible, which lets say you turbo out a boss monster in 4 special summons. Congrats, you just gave your opponent not one, but TWO Pot Of Greeds. In this scenario you pass turn with at most one or two powerful monsters on field, and your opponent now has 9 cards in their starting hand, which any one of could be various board breakers and one card starters. And like i mentioned earlier, most decks can easily put up 8000 damage in one turn if you pass under Maxx "C". In this scenario? You've given them double the resources to do it with. And the final option, to take the Maxx "C" challenge, and attempt to either; brute force your way throuh the Maxx "C" and build up the strongest board you possibly can to try and survive and get to turn 3, all while subject to many more handtraps from your opponent that their Maxx "C" is drawing them. Or to special summon so much that you force your opponent to deck out, which requires anywhere from 35-55 special summons depending on the size of the opponent's deck, which only a select few decks can really do. Ironically this is often the best option against Maxx "C", because no matter what, your opponent will have whatever they need to kill you, so it's safest to put up the strongest defence you possibly can. All of that is without considering the idea of having Maxx "C" used on you after your opponent has built a full board. Let's say you're going second, your opponent makes a Baronne De Fleur, 4 material Apollousa, Dragoon, Borreload Savage Dragon, and some GY setup too. Already a grim situation to be in, now the turn passes over, and in the draw phase of your turn, your opponent activates Maxx "C". Their Maxx "C" cannot be negated because they could use any of their on field negates to stop you from stopping the Maxx "C", so now you have to break through that board, whlie also giving your opponent even more cards for them to use against you. TLDR: Maxx "C" is the most toxic, miserable, and unfair card ever printed, and Konami needs to ban it in MD or add a seperate ranked mode that has it banned. Maxx "C" has no place in a competitive ygo format, when an entire duel is decided on turn one, by whether or not a certain card resolves, it's a problem.
20:10 six cards more than your opponent controls. if you opponent fills up all 13 zones turn one, you can have a starting hand of 20 cards after your draw phase.
They were SO close to making these cards interesting to play around. They just needed that number to be 1 or 2 but instead it's the same shit as maxx c except a few more decks can play better under them. Being 6 cards up is way more than enough to win immediately, that second clause was just useless...
@@majickman the 6 cards up was less about protecting the maxx c victim and more for stopping the maxx c challenge of getting decked out for using maxx c I think. I remember when I played master duel there were a couple of rogue decks that tried to punish maxx c by outright decking them for playing it (trickstar lol)
Max c and other handtraps just turn the game into Go-Fish in regards to having to constantly tiptoe around activating anything and worrying about a negate that you cannot even see.
I play Yugioh for fun. When master duel was still kinda new, I was messing around with a weaker deck I made, and lost so badly that I didn't want to play the game anymore. Thing is tho, even if I had a stronger deck, I don't think I could had beat it. They summoned like 30 cards in 1 turn, popped out a 100k attack beatstick, and won on my turn without me even having a chance to play the game.
Unless your opponent use an effect to say "no, you don't do that" a handful of times and you end up not playing the game, which is also an issue and the game is bad
What mountains are these? I feel like they’re in the Rockies and I love hiking, but you’ve got me at a loss. My official guess is the San Juan Mountains in Colorado
Awesome video, really interested by the deck cost idea! I'm wondering how feasible it would be to implement a system that assigns and updates a cost value for each card in the games, maybe based on public game data, the current meta, ...
Going back to Yugioh Link Evolution, a 2019 Yugioh game with sets up to IGAS (Ignition Assault), which is LITERALLY the set before massive powercreep (ETCO/Eternity Code with Accesscode, Linkross, & then soon to be Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon from the 2020 megatins) & I gotta say I really appreciate the small time capsule of a format that it brings me back to. Allows me to play my MR3-MR4 decks (mainly Savage Stike & Arc V format with stuff like Rafflesia & Toadally Awesome) against somewhat strong viable decks that the AIs use (like True Dracos, Invoked, Tri-Brigade, etc.) It's a great video game to revisit 2015-2019 Yugioh so I really recommend it for eveyone!!! ^_^ Only nitpick about Link Evolution is how excessively long it can take to get cards if you're not up for grinding against the bots (/surrendering numberous times to get the compensation DP which allows you to constantly buy packs) but other than that, it's really good for making legacy format decks.
They could draw any handtrap and slow down your summoning (Ash, Droll, Nib, ect) and if you summon less than 8 times they will win because of their card Advantage.
The deck cost concept reminds me of shared limits in Duel Links, which are sort of a step in that direction... ...and if Duel Links is indicative of its success, we can remember that, as long as this game prioritizes profit over balance, it will never work
Max c isn’t too much, what makes it seem “too much” is how much people special summon, and special summon with little to no draw back. How are you going second suppose to win vs a mf who special summoned 18 times? With several negates and went +10. How is that fair? It’s not and Maxx c evens the playing field bc now I have my 18 cards to try and stop your board. That’s why it’s not banned in the ocg bc it helps lower tier decks manage and nerf the free special summons. In the tcg they’re only worried about you buying their new produce so if Maxx c is making people with the shiny new cards from the new set mad, they lose money. So they banned it and now you have to buy the new set or play what’s popular or you’ll just lose.
The OCG is literally the same with new product... The product is just cheaper there. Also Maxx C got put to 2 in the OCG, so it's not protected from the banlist
@ yeah but they have cards like maxx c to help older decks keep up with new ones and it got out to two because ppl are cry babies and it’s been to 2 before
People would think highly of Maxx "C" if it worked like Nibiru. Like, if you resolve Maxx "C", then your opponent gets a Maxx "C" to use against you (and vice versa).
I guess the card needs a stipulation that you are forced to play Maxx C at the earliest possible time, and your opponent gets a copy of Maxx C to use. It makes the card great going second, but useless going first.
9:05 the maxx c minigame is actually where you try to deck your opponent out by spamming special summons then trying to empty their hand with something like card destruction.
Correct that's the maxx c CHALLENGE. The maxx c MINIGAME is like a quick time event where one Kung fu master is trying to land the five finger touch of doom, then both players unleash a quick flurry of parries and counters. Fighting for survival just for the chance to proceed with theduel.
maxx C ? after looking up this card. it seems u need to draw for each special monster. Meaning if someone could replay any special over & over, with a combo loop they could force u to draw out past the deck size. I wounder if there is any combo ever that let someone do that
There have been numerous decks out there that were capable of summoning a lot of times, on top of milling your opponent's deck with things such as "Necroface", and/or some cards that are no longer legal, making it significantly easier, resulting in your opponent decking out turn 1. "Card Destruction" is also very useful, as if your opponent has 15 cards in hand, that means you mill them for 15 more.
I do think the hate around Maxx C is overblown. Like unless you have a dedicated going second deck, going second feels like an exercise in faith, praying you can draw the out. The big at least helps to get that out of to at least slow your opponent down. I also wouldn’t say it’s necessary, I got to master rank in Master Duel with dinomorphia without any Maxx C in the deck. However it still does feel bad playing a more combo heavy deck knowing I lost probably lost to the bug. And the worst is still after your opponent puts up their billion negate board, activating Maxx c during your draw phase. The mulcharmies fix that last issue at least.
The point of Maxx "C" isn't necessarily to "heart of the cards your main combo piece". The main thing that makes Maxx "C" as powerful as it is is that it draws you other handtraps. Sure you'll also draw combo pieces, but most meta decks in the last few years already have built-in advantage generation. Radically increasing the odds of seeing multiple handtraps, specially high impact ones like Nib and Droll, is the strongest aspect of C.
It’s so powerful, they made 3 separate cards to replicate a fraction of its power.
Just like the anime version of Ra
Meh triple tactics talent kinda did that. You could play floowandereeze normal summons to laugh, or special summon to make a deck out for Maxx C as even block dragon Counter nibiru to keep going.
@@MrVariant i was referring to the Mulcharmies
@franckize oh that gets floowandereeze lol kinda an improvement even with the +6 limit let alone you can play other hand traps like impermanence to stay within. Would be funny if dust tornado setting a card ever became useful, but it's too slow.
@@MrVariant i mean cool hahaha im just referring to the mulcharmies hahahaha
Bro really went out to the mountains to film this 😭
Sometimes ya just gotta go to the mountains and talk about Maxxx C
Seems like a good day 👍
"There are 2 types of Summons: Normal Summon and Special Summon"
*cries in Flip Summon*
A Flip summon is a normal summon
@GamerZeroZX Actually is not. A Normal Set is close, since it takes your Normal Summon of the turn, but is also not exactly a Normal Summon, or a Summon at all, which is why you can still Set monstet u der effects that prevent you from Summons.
A Flip Summon is the act to specifically flip face-up manually, during your turn, a monster that was Set a previous turn. This can be done in addition to your Normal Summon, but it cannot be done the same turn a monster was placed on field, since they cannot change battle position on the same turn they wete Summon/Set. Is not the same as being flip face-up in any other way, like by battle or by effect, which is why monster like Guardian Sphynx and similar (think on the PACMAN monsters for example) will not activate if flipped by an attack, they have to specifically be Flip Summoned.
Then theres "Normal" Summon
@@GamerZeroZX Ah yes, the feeling when you can't Normal Summon for the rest of the turn after you Flip Summoned your Magician of Faith. Classical moment and the reason why Tsukuyomi never saw play at all and was at 3 for its entire existence.
lol.
@@TengoSuenho hey man my bad you were correct
Nina and Alexander was absolutely an insane line 💀
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I was thinking the same thing!
He's going to HELL. 😭
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i was not prepared for that fusion example.
this is the highest quality video i have seen from a small youtube channel in a while, the editing was top notch
How did you even find old footage of people talking about maxx c on release. The grain of the camera just brings back that early 2010s nostalgia. Great vid, and written so damn well.
The reason I think Maxx C is not good for the game is how it warps deck building around it. After a certain rank in Master Duel (almost) everyone plays all the copies (3) they can of it and also all the possible counters, Ash Blossom (3), Called By The Grave (2), and Crossout Designator (1), so before you even decide what you want to play, 9 cards at least are already decided, almost a quarter of a regular 40 card deck. For a lot of decks it just makes them not have enough space to play fun tech cards, and since there are some many outs to it, it rarely resolves so the most it does its discard Ash Blossom from the hand of the opponent. The thing is, this is a best of one game so sometimes you play against stun or Floowandereeze or other decks that are immune to Maxx C so having these cards in your hand feels horrible. If you play the game you might have noticed Konami bans Maxx C from almost all monthly festivals, so they know this card is not fun.
The way I like to play is playing labyrinth furniture without handtraps except for Maxx c, so I can set my hand turn one and depend on my engine going second
@@minepool4343 Purple Card Turbo is one of those decks that functions better without Handtraps, as they often don't care about being hit by handtraps themselves, and Reasoning/Monster Gate gets stronger the less hand traps are in the deck to whiff on. It's still only a Rogue contender though.
Resolving Balance of Judgement from GY with Rollback is still hilarious though.
When MD was new, I laddered to whatever the highest rank was with CyDra. At first I used normal machine dupe otk stuff and I did hit the rank, but the next couple of months I realized it was better if I was going hard second to just run trap cydra to make my life vs Maxx C easier. Got to that rank again 2 more times and then I dropped it bc Maxx C is so toxic
Modern yugioh has gone full circle to the OP staples of the DM era.
It reduces 10K card options to the same 5 cards on every deck, and then your op monsters of the last set
To be fair, with or without maxx c, people are going to play those staples.
one big reason for the tcg not being as popular as master duel is the price. in master duel, the most expensive a card can be is 30 ur points. some exceptions are banned cards, alt arts, and structure deck exclusives (if thats still a thing). its absolutely possible to compete at a high level without spending any money. in the tcg, a single card can cost anywhere from a few cents to 100 dollars and beyond, and power level isnt the only factor here. even a rogue deck can cost a new player 200 dollars because theyre gonna need some staples, and some deck specific cards that konami decided should be a secret rare will still be expensive because theyre just less available.
i dont play master duel more than tcg because i accept maxx c, i play it because its the only way i can enjoy competitive yugioh without having to spend money. i could use 3rd party simulators to play tcg, but thats just not what i wanna do. getting told to kms because i play a competitive deck in the competitive mode isnt fun. so yeah, master duel is a miserable experience anytime maxx c resolves (and just in general anytime anything abuses its best-of-1 format), but its the best i can get, and its free. of course thats gonna make it a more desirable way to play for many people.
theres also the fact that master duel is just.. more fun to watch. i dont know any numbers, but i wouldnt be surprised if master duel gameplay in general gets more viewers than like dueling book gameplay. another thing that would make master duel more popular than tcg, i guess
I mostly agree. Card prices are borderline predatory in the TCG and a big factor why it is hard to get into the game. Even harder to get into the competitive scene.
However the format is that much better than MD and OCG. We often ban the problem cards instead of limiting everything. Look at Kash for example: No Arise-Heart (and obviously Mindhacker) is all it takes. Now Kash is a decent engine but not oppressive at all. The only slightly frustrating card that remains is Unicorn.
The only thing I'd wish for all formats is to kill dedicated stun decks finally. The game would definitely be better without Barrier Statues, Fossil Dyna, Rivalry/Gozen & co... TCG's best of 3 format helps to not auto-lose if you face stun going second, but especially MD fucked up and limited Eldlich, Runick and other cards instead of tackling the actual problem cards.
You're not ever beating video games in terms of entertainment versus money spent, its a completely ludicrous comparison. That being said there's a lot of barriers to entry in playing the tcg. I don't find the price to be particularly absurd, its a pretty clear third behind finding a place to play the game locally and the inherent complexity of the game.
Its also a rather flexible price point you have for the game, I got into the game in 2019 with a few ash blossoms from the soul burner structure and like 80 dollars of orcust and super quantal cards, I didn't really have to pay for another deck until adamancipator in 2020, and that deck lasted me 9 months.
Granted I had a good locals scene for getting store credit and played online for years previously so I was immediately going positive in value.
A lack of Max C or overly degenerate formats isn’t the reason the American TCG is unpopular. The printing practices of the TCG branch is entirely to blame. The rarity distribution and archetypical design of the game makes pack filler worthless. The only playable cards will always be $60+ secret rares. The only main sets that sell are bought by stores, who open them to sell marked up foil singles to competitive players. The product just isn’t worth it. Compare yugioh tcg to ocg or to a game like pokémon to see how the anti-consumer design of the sets killed their popularity.
The fullmetal alchemist reference sent me into a fit of laughter.
I'm a MTG player and have no idea why this video was suggested to me. With that said, very neat video and well made. Keep it up!
This was a startlingly well put together video. Informative, not clickbait by putting the cardname right at the start, really cleanly edited, felt personal to you, and with some fun iykyk references like that FMA fusion. kudos and hope this helps you build your channel!
Crazy that Europe doesn't exist and NA is the only place were you play the TCG
This video is so well made, it's awesome! Can I point out that the TCG isn't only played in North America though? We play the TCG format in the UK, and it's played in Europe, South America and Oceania too. It's a common mistake that American players seem to make. The only difference in the formats is that Jump promos aren't legal outside of the US until they're reprinted in an official set.
The only people complaining about Max c are the ones trying to summon unnecessarily ridiculous shit loads of monsters. It's literally a perfect way to counter/temper your opponent from summoning stupid amounts of monsters.
11:10 This stuff about Maxx C causing a de-lineation in playstyle between formats isn't necessarily true. The best decks in the TCG and OCG have been largely the same across the years since the formats have split after all. Combo decks that have the ability to set-up into Maxx C without giving too many free cards like Tearlaments could with Sulliek pass, or decks that can take a turn off and can leverage the fact that they play 20 pieces of non-engine to buy a turn. Decks like these have over performed with and without Maxx C.
Even with how much the card affects deck building and game play, Maxx C doesn't factor that much into what the best decks are into any given format. It's not interesting enough to have that kind of power.
Even if the best decks are similar, their card contents tend to be quite different. I remember RE Dark Dragoon basically not existing in TCG bc the main draw in OCG for him was how you could summon him for only 1 or 2 special summons but that wasn't enough in TCG.
its almost completely false, there are decks (unchained) that do better in the west due to no maxx c but they are few and far between and 90% of the time the two formats are exactly the same
@@ellachino4799 dragoon came out in japan pretty far in advance of rise of the duelist which contained triple tactics talent and forbidden droplet, the two best counters to dragoon while we got it well after that set. maxx c probably had a little to do with the popularity verte-dragoon plays i would hesitate to say its a big factor considering destroyer phoenix enforcer was also a verte target and was played in both formats.
@@Snookems64 dude it absolutely was. Numerous high level players (and ytubers) have talked about that. Dragoon wasn't the Plan A of most decks but it was a really powerful Plan B of a deck in the ocg after getting maxx c'd
If anything it is the complete opposite for example SHS was a plague in the OCG meta game a super fast ignorant combo deck. meanwhile in the TCG you have Unchained and Runick decks(midrange and control) being a larger part of the meta game during that time period. OCG players don't try at all try to play control/midrange style decks and that is mainly a TCG thing.
This was the most beautifully produced Yugioh documentary I've seen. You're great at this!
Thanks homie!!
vid was so good i almost got back into yugioh. keep going bro, sooner or later u're going to blow up
With how good this video is you have gained another subscriber.
This video was so beautifully produced! Well deserving of a larger following my man
My grandson says it's time to resolve your going-first combo you started 43 years ago, Dylan.
The editing on this is really excellent, nice job! What you bring up about the OCG and Master Duel being really popular even though they're formats that include Maxx "C" is interesting to me. Maxx "C" is one of the most hated cards in TCG-land, to the point where many people here deem it a huge reason they don't enjoy Master Duel. I would be curious about what people in the OCG think of it and if it's presence is a positive force on the game, since it's largely gone from a controversial card to a downright hated card here in the west.
Blud thinks America is the only region that plays the tcg
Wow this is so well done! This could be a great series for people getting back into the game!
5:57 Woah, that’s my Dinosaur combo sheet that I made for MasterDuels release! Crazy to see it again!!
1:52 It's not "less than for stars", it's "4 or less". That's a big difference. Otherwise you couldn't normal summon level 4 monsters.
i think its to keep words simple for un-experienced players. he clearly summons a lvl 4 this way in the vid so any misunderstanding is also cleared up by just watching. Its also funny to me that people point these things out, like hes gunna edit the vid and re-upload it or something.
@@stinkygoat2686 "less than 4" or "4 or less" is no difference in complexity, it's just a slip-up. Can't argue with the "he clearly summons a lvl 4" bit, but even if comments like these aren't necessarily reason for an edit, they serve both as "Here you can do better next time." and a resolution to the arising question "What's with 4, then?" for clueless people like me who didn't catch the lvl 4 monster being played by themselves.
@@stinkygoat2686dude that doesn't make it easier to understand it makes it harder to understand for people who aren't experienced. Being clear with language is a good thing. Pointing it out helps people who might be confused.
Yeah, sorry everyone. I just commented when I've watched the video only until that point. I guess it becomes more clear later on in the video. However, my comment is still correct, so ...
@@ellachino4799 your not learning how to play yugioh from this video. its just to demonstrate the point that special summons were once unique.
Painful Choice is definitely stronger, but Maxx C is undeniably more controversial
Very good and well edited video.
Great video. This was such a well done and well edited documentary.
Thanks homie!!
the quality of this video is insanely good holy
Most important YGO video of the year. Well done.
I knew it was going to be Maxx c. Glad that the video opens with it instead of a build up
As someone who’s not played Yugioh in a a staggeringly long time, there’s something so hilarious about seeing a set named SUPREME DARKNESS with a black background and creepy box art and the preview card next to it is a cute lil cat flower thing and that card is like $100.
I feel like I stumbled on such a high quality essay, I don’t play yugioh but you got me hooked
Back when Maxx C first released I managed to get one from a friend who didn’t know how good it was. To be fair, neither did I, but it’s funny to see the best card in the game sitting in my bulk.
This was actually amazing for a little documentary about a yugioh card. Keep it up you got my sub 👍
this was so well made bro
8:35 mfw I'm in Europe and I could've played maxx c all this time since it can't be played only on north america 😭😭😭
I don’t play yugioh, but love hearing about game breaking tcg cards on a mountain
Awesome video, and take. I’m glad this was recommended to me. Commenting for the algorithm. Keep it up, bro.
Bro set up is wild 🐐
Amazing video essay! Great video quality! Especially for someone relatively newer! Gonna have to subscribe and check out your other stuff!
Quick clarification at 6:51 though. The sound effect/animation for drawing certain cards is specifically for drawing cards that are limited to 1 in the format. In fact, during the special Duel Trial where every card was limited to 1, the effect would happen every time you'd draw for turn. So it's special, but not THAT special.
Edit: the "Deck cost" thing sounds like a great idea, because I play a lot of wargames and they've got points costs for all the units. The points costs aren't always balanced, but it does drive players to be more efficient in their army builds, because often times you can't throw 9 of the strongest tank in the game into one army, because you'll run out of points.
Um, actually, I think it’s petit moth
I’ve had countless duels that go like this.
I normal summon
They maxx c
I end my turn
They normal summon
I maxx c
They summon a bunch, I draw, nibiru
They end turn
I pop off
I don't play YGO anymore but these kinds of videos are always enjoyable.
This was a really good video! Props! The part about deck cost is something I've been thinking about Duel Costs to keep a certain balance in the game, in like an alternate format, but obviously it would be kind of impossible to implement. The only way I see it being a thing is with a community effort. There a lot of the older games (Like the mentioned Duelist of the Rose in your video) that do that though so that can be some kind of inspiration.
As a guy who spent the first five to ten years of yu-gi-oh trying to get into it, only to be flummoxed by the whole thing and the quitting, only to be dragged back in by my friends to start the whole process over again. I have to say this whole problem is hilarious to me. You know how other card games deal with this problem... set list. You don't have to deal with power creep if an old card is no longer usable in the modern format of the card game.
incredible quality for such a small channel!
amazing editing and the video looks super nice
Part of why the new cards demonstrate the power is that they are still potentially viable despite the added drawback. Arguably other than the fact that they split it up into 3 different types of special summoning, it really didnt lose much utility. The whole 'feels bad' of it is when they build a giant board, and then now you are letting them draw into handtraps that can stop you from building your board.
Might be better if those cards are set into your hand 'face down' so that 1 - the opponent knows what you got, and 2 - because they are face down, they are almost un-usable. Then during end-phase you can flip them face up.
Maybe give it a hard once per turn 'You may flip a facedown card in your hand face up' so that you can still counter 1 thing, but at the highest levels, you generally can play though a single hand trap.
I play on Master duel, with the monsters i think are fun/funny, and I like Maxx C a lot. Gives me a fighting chance despite running bad cards
I feel like yugioh these days is a lot of just drawing cards that win in the spot be it droll or Nibiru or Dark Ruler No More or Shifter or Raigeki or Maxx C. What makes a meta deck meta is the ability to cram as many instant win cards in their deck as possible and still be about to OTK when the time comes
While maxx c is broken some people are sleeping on super polymerization, are you telling me that my oponent can just yoink my win con, use it to fuse summon his wincon, and then technically beat my ass with my onw card
Balance should be considered carefully for any card or effect that disables response. Currently Konami is just leaning into Super Poly like it's no big deal, it is a big deal.
Super Poly is dependent on format and deck, most decks cannot play the targets, and a lot of modern decks can play around it by not letting you poly anything away without investment first (aka not having two monsters of same attribute or type that they aren't willing to lose anyway)
Yes. Because Konami also says it's legal to yoink your win con and then proceed to cook that win con like a fish in a frying pan to temp buff an obstinate chef while ALSO yoinking any one other win con with a kaiju, then proceeding to nuke the board with a zeus. ....or just sit there with the chef that gives no shits until either he gets outed/circumvented or you just win
@@Sigmaairav hahaha, never got change of heart or snatch steal 'd before huh?
@gameplaycast I am the one who knocks and crooked cook will play all the mind games x3
I’ll die on the hill that Maxx C isnt a problem but the fact you can reliably special summon 20 times every turn is the problem with the game.
2:41 the fullmetal alchemist reference was brutal 💀💀
To me, the perfect maxx c would have this effect, keeping exactly what it is and is SUPPOSED to be, but also a lot fairer:
"You can only activate the effect of "Maxx C" once per turn, in the first turn of the duel.
Send this card from your hand to the GY; every time your opponent special summons a monster this turn: draw one card.
During your next turn after the activation of this card, you can only special summon a number of monsters up to the number of cards drawn by this effect."
Also, I don't fully agree that the OCG is more control oriented because of Maxx C, master duel has Maxx C at 3 and most of the top decks are combo decks that often can't combo under Maxx C, and very recently, with the infection of combo decks that can full combo you with one card like yubel, snake eyes and ryzeal you see far more combo decks topping in those formats than control decks, mainly because even when getting maxx c'ed they have the back up of a thousand handtraps of their own that previous combo decks did not have. A lot of people used to say that even back then, but combo decks were never kept in check by maxx c, the ocg just played more control decks because that was the average profile of ocg players. If you want an example of that, just look at early master duel, with Halq into linkross into metal marcher into auroradon being literally every deck from that period until konami purged all the cards that were already banned everywhere else from the game
I take 8000 emotional damage when Nina Chimera is summoned
"People using the mulcharmy cards" Maxx c: look what they need to mimic a Fraktion of our power!
Not Joe Rogan talking about it 😂😂
Great vid man. I like the editing
Straight out take speed counters from Yugioh 5D’s and implement it to deck cost. There was a few episodes of duel night where they did that. Which was cool and great to see implemented.
great video bro.
I watch yugi youtube all day long and this is one of, if not the best, video i’ve ever seen.
great production, script, narrative, voice and comedy.
i’d drop a superlike if I could 👌
holy quality instant sub
Honestly I'm no pro at yu gi oh or anything but I feel like the main issue I've come across is not the player going second drawing it but the player who went first and has already set up their board being able to fire off a maxx c during the second player's turn making it basically unwinnable lmao
Well, for me personally, Maxx C didn't brings the worst memory because I had several copies of them very early on and when I afked, I was so surprised to find their prices skyrocketing. The exciting part of the story has to be that Konami finally decided to print Maxx C several times so that I could afford 3 of them on my returning.
17:07 they actually does something similar to that in master duel called N/R, where they limit the cards rarity I think? There's also the festivals where most meta cards are banned + limited
Maxx "C" is a lose-lose situation when it's played against you, it doesn't give you a choice, it gives the illusion of choice. When Maxx "C" resolves, you have the options to:
Pass turn, which in modern ygo is suicide, as even midrange decks have no issue putting 8000 damage on the field in one turn, especially with Accesscode Talker that most decks can (and do) run.
Special summon as little as possible, which lets say you turbo out a boss monster in 4 special summons. Congrats, you just gave your opponent not one, but TWO Pot Of Greeds. In this scenario you pass turn with at most one or two powerful monsters on field, and your opponent now has 9 cards in their starting hand, which any one of could be various board breakers and one card starters. And like i mentioned earlier, most decks can easily put up 8000 damage in one turn if you pass under Maxx "C". In this scenario? You've given them double the resources to do it with.
And the final option, to take the Maxx "C" challenge, and attempt to either; brute force your way throuh the Maxx "C" and build up the strongest board you possibly can to try and survive and get to turn 3, all while subject to many more handtraps from your opponent that their Maxx "C" is drawing them. Or to special summon so much that you force your opponent to deck out, which requires anywhere from 35-55 special summons depending on the size of the opponent's deck, which only a select few decks can really do. Ironically this is often the best option against Maxx "C", because no matter what, your opponent will have whatever they need to kill you, so it's safest to put up the strongest defence you possibly can.
All of that is without considering the idea of having Maxx "C" used on you after your opponent has built a full board. Let's say you're going second, your opponent makes a Baronne De Fleur, 4 material Apollousa, Dragoon, Borreload Savage Dragon, and some GY setup too. Already a grim situation to be in, now the turn passes over, and in the draw phase of your turn, your opponent activates Maxx "C". Their Maxx "C" cannot be negated because they could use any of their on field negates to stop you from stopping the Maxx "C", so now you have to break through that board, whlie also giving your opponent even more cards for them to use against you.
TLDR: Maxx "C" is the most toxic, miserable, and unfair card ever printed, and Konami needs to ban it in MD or add a seperate ranked mode that has it banned. Maxx "C" has no place in a competitive ygo format, when an entire duel is decided on turn one, by whether or not a certain card resolves, it's a problem.
20:10 six cards more than your opponent controls. if you opponent fills up all 13 zones turn one, you can have a starting hand of 20 cards after your draw phase.
They were SO close to making these cards interesting to play around. They just needed that number to be 1 or 2 but instead it's the same shit as maxx c except a few more decks can play better under them. Being 6 cards up is way more than enough to win immediately, that second clause was just useless...
@@majickmanAlso, it doesn't count other handtraps you use. It should shuffle back (cards you drew this turn - number of cards your opponent controls)
@@majickman the 6 cards up was less about protecting the maxx c victim and more for stopping the maxx c challenge of getting decked out for using maxx c I think. I remember when I played master duel there were a couple of rogue decks that tried to punish maxx c by outright decking them for playing it (trickstar lol)
@@ellachino4799 You can still deck them out on your own turn lol you just have to summon one additional time
Max c and other handtraps just turn the game into Go-Fish in regards to having to constantly tiptoe around activating anything and worrying about a negate that you cannot even see.
bro I just went get food and now we'r outside, wtf, noooo the light
I play Yugioh for fun. When master duel was still kinda new, I was messing around with a weaker deck I made, and lost so badly that I didn't want to play the game anymore. Thing is tho, even if I had a stronger deck, I don't think I could had beat it. They summoned like 30 cards in 1 turn, popped out a 100k attack beatstick, and won on my turn without me even having a chance to play the game.
I can tell from this comment you would prob like Edison Format.
You can't play it on MD but you can on YGO Omega and similar things.
@CamerynWilliams-x9e I play a lot of duel links. Rush and speed, guess ya could say I gotta go fast...
Maxx c isn't the problem the game making you able to special summon 4,000 times a turn is. The game is bad.
Unless your opponent use an effect to say "no, you don't do that" a handful of times and you end up not playing the game, which is also an issue and the game is bad
Amazing video can't believe you don't have more subs keep it up
Great vid, whats the Song that plays during the mulcharmy section?
Maxx C just got the Ray separating Zarc into different counterparts treatment from Arc-V
Bro that was an awesome edit. I need to learn how to do that.
Maxx C will be banned in the summer of 2039, the inspiration for this prediction is Mystic Mine.
What mountains are these? I feel like they’re in the Rockies and I love hiking, but you’ve got me at a loss. My official guess is the San Juan Mountains in Colorado
Awesome video, really interested by the deck cost idea! I'm wondering how feasible it would be to implement a system that assigns and updates a cost value for each card in the games, maybe based on public game data, the current meta, ...
Going back to Yugioh Link Evolution, a 2019 Yugioh game with sets up to IGAS (Ignition Assault), which is LITERALLY the set before massive powercreep (ETCO/Eternity Code with Accesscode, Linkross, & then soon to be Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon from the 2020 megatins) & I gotta say I really appreciate the small time capsule of a format that it brings me back to.
Allows me to play my MR3-MR4 decks (mainly Savage Stike & Arc V format with stuff like Rafflesia & Toadally Awesome) against somewhat strong viable decks that the AIs use (like True Dracos, Invoked, Tri-Brigade, etc.) It's a great video game to revisit 2015-2019 Yugioh so I really recommend it for eveyone!!! ^_^
Only nitpick about Link Evolution is how excessively long it can take to get cards if you're not up for grinding against the bots (/surrendering numberous times to get the compensation DP which allows you to constantly buy packs) but other than that, it's really good for making legacy format decks.
Incredible video, would love to see more
TCG players have turned this game into pay-to-win solitaire.
Why not make a counter for maxxc that severely burns the opponent for every extra card drawn (1000 lp per)??
They could draw any handtrap and slow down your summoning (Ash, Droll, Nib, ect) and if you summon less than 8 times they will win because of their card Advantage.
What if you could activate the hand trap counter card by the end of turn, after the cards got drawn and burn for say 1500-2000 Per card drawn
Also how many life pts is 1 extra card drawn worth?
13:23 what is that piano piece?
Banger as always, quality is top
The deck cost concept reminds me of shared limits in Duel Links, which are sort of a step in that direction...
...and if Duel Links is indicative of its success, we can remember that, as long as this game prioritizes profit over balance, it will never work
Max c isn’t too much, what makes it seem “too much” is how much people special summon, and special summon with little to no draw back. How are you going second suppose to win vs a mf who special summoned 18 times? With several negates and went +10. How is that fair? It’s not and Maxx c evens the playing field bc now I have my 18 cards to try and stop your board. That’s why it’s not banned in the ocg bc it helps lower tier decks manage and nerf the free special summons. In the tcg they’re only worried about you buying their new produce so if Maxx c is making people with the shiny new cards from the new set mad, they lose money. So they banned it and now you have to buy the new set or play what’s popular or you’ll just lose.
The OCG is literally the same with new product... The product is just cheaper there. Also Maxx C got put to 2 in the OCG, so it's not protected from the banlist
@ yeah but they have cards like maxx c to help older decks keep up with new ones and it got out to two because ppl are cry babies and it’s been to 2 before
People would think highly of Maxx "C" if it worked like Nibiru. Like, if you resolve Maxx "C", then your opponent gets a Maxx "C" to use against you (and vice versa).
It wouldn't make a difference besides making it a even stronger first-turn player win-more card
I guess the card needs a stipulation that you are forced to play Maxx C at the earliest possible time, and your opponent gets a copy of Maxx C to use. It makes the card great going second, but useless going first.
Who is up for a handtrap that bans a random extra deck card for each special summon?
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9:05 the maxx c minigame is actually where you try to deck your opponent out by spamming special summons then trying to empty their hand with something like card destruction.
No, that's the Maxx c challenge
Correct that's the maxx c CHALLENGE. The maxx c MINIGAME is like a quick time event where one Kung fu master is trying to land the five finger touch of doom, then both players unleash a quick flurry of parries and counters. Fighting for survival just for the chance to proceed with theduel.
Great editor!
Yo that nina doggy really caught me
maxx C ? after looking up this card. it seems u need to draw for each special monster. Meaning if someone could replay any special over & over, with a combo loop they could force u to draw out past the deck size. I wounder if there is any combo ever that let someone do that
There have been numerous decks out there that were capable of summoning a lot of times, on top of milling your opponent's deck with things such as "Necroface", and/or some cards that are no longer legal, making it significantly easier, resulting in your opponent decking out turn 1. "Card Destruction" is also very useful, as if your opponent has 15 cards in hand, that means you mill them for 15 more.
I do think the hate around Maxx C is overblown. Like unless you have a dedicated going second deck, going second feels like an exercise in faith, praying you can draw the out. The big at least helps to get that out of to at least slow your opponent down. I also wouldn’t say it’s necessary, I got to master rank in Master Duel with dinomorphia without any Maxx C in the deck. However it still does feel bad playing a more combo heavy deck knowing I lost probably lost to the bug. And the worst is still after your opponent puts up their billion negate board, activating Maxx c during your draw phase. The mulcharmies fix that last issue at least.
The point of Maxx "C" isn't necessarily to "heart of the cards your main combo piece". The main thing that makes Maxx "C" as powerful as it is is that it draws you other handtraps. Sure you'll also draw combo pieces, but most meta decks in the last few years already have built-in advantage generation. Radically increasing the odds of seeing multiple handtraps, specially high impact ones like Nib and Droll, is the strongest aspect of C.
Love the video might be epilepsy concerns with the intro though