Again, your Top 5 Order can look different than mine! There is arguments for every character ion top 5 on who's the strongest so please watch the full video and don't be angry as if i don't acknowledge each character in top 5 can beat each other in some way.
In Sonic Heroes, Tails and Knuckles weren't actually super. They were just powered up by Super Sonic. And before anyone says anything to me, yes, I know Super Sonic shared his power with Shadow and Silver to make them go super but it's not actually stated why he wasn't able to do the same with Tails and Knuckles. However, I like to imagine that Sonic was just unable to give Tails and Knuckles their proper super forms because he didnt know how to.
And he might got better on giving their actual super forms because on 06 he gives Shadow and Silver theirs which is a power Sonic could learned from Heroes that he didnt knew before.
im glad sonic frontiers reinforced the fact that knuckles does in fact have a super form. i really hope we get a big story where sonic needs his friends to join him in super form
Soooo Burning Blaze above Super Shadow because she deals with a more dangerous Eggman? This is like saying "Kid Buu >>> Buuhan" because Kid Buu was more dangerous. Like another comment said, Super Shadow has more feats and statements + Burning Blaze got winded after fighting level 1 goons in the IDW comics, same comics that had Super Neo Metal Sonic yet you didn't add him here for some reason. You also said "main cast", so I'm just kinda pondering on why Mighty, Ray, and Trip was included. And correct me if I'm wrong but you said Amy had more experience than Tails? or Battle experience, either way, both are wrong. Oh and about that thing where "Shadow can't use Chaos Control without the use of a Chaos Emerald" , see the problem with this is that they are many examples were Shadow has used Chaos Control (and yes it was called Chaos Control in these circumstances) without Emeralds like: - Sonic Battle (he directly states after giving Emerl the last Emerald that as long as he carriers Maria in his heart does he need to Emerald to invoke Chaos Control) - Shadow the Hedgehog the game (During the games final stage can only usage of Chaos control progress the stage despite at this point in the story Black Doom having all 7 Emeralds) - Sonic Forces (when he comes in to save Sonic from the Phantom Ruby clone of his. He doesn't seem to have any emeralds and if you have the Super Sonic DLC than has Sonic all 7 emeralds) - Sonic Adventure 2 (During the final Sonic Vs Shadow fight are both using Chaos control despite Shadow not having any emeralds. 6 are in the Arc already, Eggman is about to slot the 7th one in, and Sonic has the only fake onboard) - IDW Sonic (Correct me if I'm wrong, but before Shadow got infected like a goofy, he used a short distance Chaos Control when Eggman had all seven chaos emeralds in his possession already?) I usually go off what Black Doom said in relation to his Chaos Control ability. Its something he can do without any emeralds on a smaller scale but the Emeralds can further enhance the ability to allow for larger scale actions like teleporting the whole Black Comet.
Fun fact: sonic never uses his full power when fighting his comrades. That’s why he gets bested so easily. Besides shadow. Also the reason why Sonic’s friends always are able to catch up with him is because he has to always slow himself down just enough so they can catch up. Mind you sonic has run out of voids. Infinite abysses. His comrades can’t match his speed.
16:40 Eggman nega being from Silver's universe, it is confirmed that he is a relative of Eggman's future, in Rush he was traveling from universe to universe
Okay so to add to things in Sonic Generations, Shadow travels through time and has to fight LESS experienced enemies than the current Sonic timeline, this is why he is able to fight Metal Overlord in base (Because Metal Overlord was equal to 3 super forms at the time) and yea, this is basically to show how strong Shadow has gotten overtime along with the rest of the Sonic cast, if we even get to play as them in future Generations DLCs.
Shadow's new feats in SonicXShadow Gens has nothing to do with any of the other cast members and shouldn't be used to scale them. These new doom powers could put Shadow above the others which is probably why he is able to solo Metal Overlord and on top of this we don't know if he keeps them at the end of the game as they aren't in games that take place after gens.
Yo bro for your next vid you should have form tournament where you debate on which form is stronger than the other and debate on who moves on,like a bracket type thing.
@@Tyrecordslol Hey Ty, I'm not hating or anything, just confused by the whole shadow below blaze thing, cuz I've always thought, isn't shadow MEANT to be Sonic's "Equal", albeit sonic being stronger?
Yo my boy wasted a opportunity with this thumbnail. Could've gone: Left side: All pink. Knuckles and Amy. Right side: All light-yellow. Shadow and Tails. Middle: Golden. Sonic.
I don't think you know but Akira Toriyama the creator of dragon ball was a Sonic Fan and inspired the creators of Sonic to make Super Sonic but in a different way instead of rage being the focus for Super Sonic its the chaos emeralds but also Akira Toriyama had made drawings of Sonic as a kid and later in his life when he was older he said they were terrible.
@TheMarioandSonicfan This has to be pure misinformation cause Akira Toriyama was making dragon ball before Sonic even existed, meaning he was an adult when sonic was created in 1991
Idk about the tails not being stronger than amy though I mean… I could list a BUNCH of reasons of why tails would beat Amy but idrc HECKits also been confirmed too. BUT ANYWAYS Great video man, you’re like the best sonic(ish) UA-camr in my opinion
i don't think characters like tails knux amy ray and mighty are going super, i think they are just getting a boost because we see them get stronger and faster but its not like they're flying or anything like that, and they don't change colors they just glow. PS i think in sonic heroes the super shield was a different thing than super form.
Its very complicated with super forms and the other sonic characters. In one time they say tails and knuckles dony go super, yet in 2020 they have a super tails funko pop, then it being retconned again, and a lot more.
@@john_negs7720 I'd assume given the fact that Silver's telekinesis is already super powerful in base, him being super would put said telekinesis into overdrive (idk this for sure don't know much abt 06 given its history)
14:54 doesn't make that much sense Wake up God damn Base Sonic going against perfect chaos in that game and Shadow fighting all them in base as well annoys you?! I think that's the best word word to put it in besides all that? Do you hear yourself?!
ngl a number 4 position for Silver is quite fair. He’s just like me not even gonna hold you, I hope they do give him that experience in future to the games so more people can acknowledge his strength & rank him as one of the STRONGEST characters in the franchise
you should do a video with all the versions of metal sonic from fanmade one like metallix to newer ones like neo metal sonic and btw huge fan luv your videos.
You know I respect your video and like also. But one thing about shadow and why he is built different from the rest… Is because he aware and restrain himself from the rest and hold back because he knows he can cause some serious damage. As to why he doesn’t take his rings off because that alone releases all of his power making him top 1 even without his super form now imagine him in super form without his rings and going out 100%. Most of us knows how sa2 ended. But that sa2 not shadow now. But I love the video tho it awesome how you explained your opinion and I respect it 100%.
First of all, it was shadow's first time going super while sonic went super in sonic 2,3 and adventure. Second, shadow did say sonic was the ultimate lifeform because shadow thought he was going to die but since he didn't die he changed his mind on sonic being the ultimate lifeform.
12:22 at a time he thought Sonic was the ultimate life form later entries after he basically came from back from the dead. He most likely rescinded that compliment. That's the simple answer
Again, your Top 5 Order can look different than mine! There is arguments for every character ion top 5 on who's the strongest so please watch the full video and don't be angry as if i don't acknowledge each character in top 5 can beat each other in some way.
silver still slams😮
Start a Minecraft let’s play
@@Tyrecordslol كبتكبد ،غ58ك
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You know it's a good day when Tyre drops a longform video.
Not to be a 🤓 but the re in his name is for records
@@Ttnytntny im aware, just abbreviating.
@@ፘ፞ ok
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In Sonic Heroes, Tails and Knuckles weren't actually super. They were just powered up by Super Sonic. And before anyone says anything to me, yes, I know Super Sonic shared his power with Shadow and Silver to make them go super but it's not actually stated why he wasn't able to do the same with Tails and Knuckles. However, I like to imagine that Sonic was just unable to give Tails and Knuckles their proper super forms because he didnt know how to.
Yeah I was gonna say that since doesn't tails have like birds all around him and electricity
And he might got better on giving their actual super forms because on 06 he gives Shadow and Silver theirs which is a power Sonic could learned from Heroes that he didnt knew before.
@@kolejohnson2836 maybe it's because tails needs the super emeralds to go super, which means he doesn't have a hyper form
@HurtlessAmmie😢
bro the game files in sonic heroes says its super tails and super knuckles
im glad sonic frontiers reinforced the fact that knuckles does in fact have a super form. i really hope we get a big story where sonic needs his friends to join him in super form
He doesn't
Ian flynn literally stated that was a joke line, knuckles was saying IF he had one
@@reggielacey2235I haven't done any research whatsoever but that sounds like cap imo
honestly idk why I’m commenting
Same
Same
Real😔
*guts theme play*
Cuz you want clout
I like the fact that silver actually got some respect😤
IK
justice for silver
He is truly the goat
Fr
IT’S NO USE🔥🗣️
Soooo Burning Blaze above Super Shadow because she deals with a more dangerous Eggman? This is like saying "Kid Buu >>> Buuhan" because Kid Buu was more dangerous. Like another comment said, Super Shadow has more feats and statements + Burning Blaze got winded after fighting level 1 goons in the IDW comics, same comics that had Super Neo Metal Sonic yet you didn't add him here for some reason.
You also said "main cast", so I'm just kinda pondering on why Mighty, Ray, and Trip was included.
And correct me if I'm wrong but you said Amy had more experience than Tails? or Battle experience, either way, both are wrong.
Oh and about that thing where "Shadow can't use Chaos Control without the use of a Chaos Emerald" , see the problem with this is that they are many examples were Shadow has used Chaos Control (and yes it was called Chaos Control in these circumstances) without Emeralds like:
- Sonic Battle (he directly states after giving Emerl the last Emerald that as long as he carriers Maria in his heart does he need to Emerald to invoke Chaos Control)
- Shadow the Hedgehog the game (During the games final stage can only usage of Chaos control progress the stage despite at this point in the story Black Doom having all 7 Emeralds)
- Sonic Forces (when he comes in to save Sonic from the Phantom Ruby clone of his. He doesn't seem to have any emeralds and if you have the Super Sonic DLC than has Sonic all 7 emeralds)
- Sonic Adventure 2 (During the final Sonic Vs Shadow fight are both using Chaos control despite Shadow not having any emeralds. 6 are in the Arc already, Eggman is about to slot the 7th one in, and Sonic has the only fake onboard)
- IDW Sonic (Correct me if I'm wrong, but before Shadow got infected like a goofy, he used a short distance Chaos Control when Eggman had all seven chaos emeralds in his possession already?)
I usually go off what Black Doom said in relation to his Chaos Control ability. Its something he can do without any emeralds on a smaller scale but the Emeralds can further enhance the ability to allow for larger scale actions like teleporting the whole Black Comet.
He just doesn’t like shadow
facts
I mean.... do your list instead of being such an annoying nerd....
Super neo is not canon
@@Peu115 Yeah, don't you hate it when someone knows something and tries to share their knowledge? It's really the worst.
Nice vid maybe you could give shadow a video like blaze when you compared her to sonics main team when shadow generations comes out
After I’ll give him a video going over his power and Full story
@@Tyrecordslol thanks
What about what i said can you make a playlist with you playing every sonic game I think that would be great
@@SirSir-c2tthat would be nice hope he listens to you😊😁👍
I hope so too
Fun fact: sonic never uses his full power when fighting his comrades. That’s why he gets bested so easily. Besides shadow. Also the reason why Sonic’s friends always are able to catch up with him is because he has to always slow himself down just enough so they can catch up. Mind you sonic has run out of voids. Infinite abysses. His comrades can’t match his speed.
Ayy, mah man! Thx for dis vid, bro! Loved it!
Never let him cook with shadow💀
Real
Bro imposted his own kind
Tye can't scale, he can stick to his TikTok shorts
He said it could go any order
@@Vlone.Zframesonly person who actually listened to the video
by the way, at 3:31, you accidently put ray the flying squirrel when talking about mighty.
yipppeee i got a heart
@@ChillGuy-128HELLO ITS A ME SUPA MARIO ON PS4 WAHOOOOOOOOOOOO
Omg speed recently commented on my video🤯
@@PhysicReal lemme check
@@ChillGuy-128 To this day he's still checking..... 😢
fro those people that don’t know what an Echidna is irl, it’s the only other egg-laying mammal besides the platypus
16:40 Eggman nega being from Silver's universe, it is confirmed that he is a relative of Eggman's future, in Rush he was traveling from universe to universe
His name is Eggman WHHAAAAAAT💀🥷🏿
Ivo name, robotik surname, Eggman nickname
@@gabrielcarvalhoseixas3112 oh ok my bad 💀
Okay so to add to things in Sonic Generations, Shadow travels through time and has to fight LESS experienced enemies than the current Sonic timeline, this is why he is able to fight Metal Overlord in base (Because Metal Overlord was equal to 3 super forms at the time) and yea, this is basically to show how strong Shadow has gotten overtime along with the rest of the Sonic cast, if we even get to play as them in future Generations DLCs.
Shadow's new feats in SonicXShadow Gens has nothing to do with any of the other cast members and shouldn't be used to scale them. These new doom powers could put Shadow above the others which is probably why he is able to solo Metal Overlord and on top of this we don't know if he keeps them at the end of the game as they aren't in games that take place after gens.
This is the type stuff you put on before bed because it’s so relaxing
3:31 You made a mistake. You said Mighty 5he Armadillo, but the text is Ray the Flying Squirrel.
I forgot to subscribe your content is great tyrec plz keep posting
Yo bro for your next vid you should have form tournament where you debate on which form is stronger than the other and debate on who moves on,like a bracket type thing.
that sounds great
@@Tyrecordslol thanks
@@Tyrecordslol Hey Ty, I'm not hating or anything, just confused by the whole shadow below blaze thing, cuz I've always thought, isn't shadow MEANT to be Sonic's "Equal", albeit sonic being stronger?
After Frontiers, Sonic has become one of the most OP mfs I've ever seen
The goat
Fr
LETS GO ANOTHER BANGER
Super Silver and Super Shadow are both above Burning Blaze.
The only correct comment in this vid
Why
They scale above her. Feats>Statements
He said it can go in any order.
Nice video 😁😁
6:03 ”GET OUT 🗣️"
GET OUT
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Fire music bro🗣🗣🔥
4:41 IT'S MILES TAILS PROWER
W video ❤ like always ❤🎉
14:00 *Shadow has left the chat*
Ngl, it caught me off guard
another fire upload🎉🎉
Yo my boy wasted a opportunity with this thumbnail. Could've gone:
Left side: All pink. Knuckles and Amy.
Right side: All light-yellow. Shadow and Tails.
Middle: Golden. Sonic.
Another wonderful video, keep it going‼️‼️‼️
Knuckles is really strong bro
He said you could swap the top five
I love this channel ❤
HOW MANY SUPER FORMS ARE THERE?!?!? They bouta turn sonic to literally dragon ball 💀
Sonic is the dragon ball
I don't think you know but Akira Toriyama the creator of dragon ball was a Sonic Fan and inspired the creators of Sonic to make Super Sonic but in a different way instead of rage being the focus for Super Sonic its the chaos emeralds but also Akira Toriyama had made drawings of Sonic as a kid and later in his life when he was older he said they were terrible.
@TheMarioandSonicfan This has to be pure misinformation cause Akira Toriyama was making dragon ball before Sonic even existed, meaning he was an adult when sonic was created in 1991
@@TheMarioandSonicfandragon ball came before Sonic
@@TheMarioandSonicfanman who lied to you
I love your content Ty
1:Sonic
2: Shadow
3:Silver
4:Blaze
5:Knuckles
6:Tails
7:Mighty
8:Ray
9:Amy
10:Trip
Idk about the tails not being stronger than amy though I mean… I could list a BUNCH of reasons of why tails would beat Amy but idrc HECKits also been confirmed too. BUT ANYWAYS Great video man, you’re like the best sonic(ish) UA-camr in my opinion
i don't think characters like tails knux amy ray and mighty are going super, i think they are just getting a boost because we see them get stronger and faster but its not like they're flying or anything like that, and they don't change colors they just glow. PS i think in sonic heroes the super shield was a different thing than super form.
Its very complicated with super forms and the other sonic characters. In one time they say tails and knuckles dony go super, yet in 2020 they have a super tails funko pop, then it being retconned again, and a lot more.
love the vid, keep it up tyre!
Why did mightys text just copy rays
Frr
19:27 bro i thought my phone skipped by its own💀💀
my favorite sonic character is espio the chamelon
Ow.
Very underrated character lol
Goated video tyrecords :)
Bro got a pimple on his forehead lol
He looks like a ign character
Who cares?
@@Chips0269 anybody that comment in my commentary like you cares.
@@Chips0269 people care alot more of my comment than your sorry ahh comment.
@@Chips0269 shut up
Ty with another BANGER
I think the top 4 is
1. Sonic
2. Shadow
3. Silver
4. Knuckles/blaze (interchangeable)
But i understand how you got your list
Why is blaze below silver?
@@john_negs7720 I'd assume given the fact that Silver's telekinesis is already super powerful in base, him being super would put said telekinesis into overdrive (idk this for sure don't know much abt 06 given its history)
@@john_negs7720 quote me if you like
@@john_negs7720If silver's telekenisis had a super boost he would implode her 💀.
@@Earlybeggar I disagree
Yo like your content
I am a real fan of TYRECORDSLOL ❤❤❤
I love your videos ❤keep it up ❤
Super shadow might be the strongest because he is the ultimate lifeform.
No he thinks he is
Proof?
@@dionebrinkley5551sega themselves called him the ultimate monkey.
@@dionebrinkley5551 ua-cam.com/video/f4LAb83MCR0/v-deo.html
Dude in video shadow even said "I know who is the ultimate life form...it might be you" to sonic
dude, i used to think you were one of those master oogway copies, but clearly, your the coolest! (i heart awful sonic quotes)
Shut Blaze is not better than Shadow the dayum ULTIMATE LIFE FORM do you hear that
14:54 doesn't make that much sense Wake up God damn Base Sonic going against perfect chaos in that game and Shadow fighting all them in base as well annoys you?! I think that's the best word word to put it in besides all that? Do you hear yourself?!
shut up, he has his own opinions.
@@malicious_intentionss so do I. And I'm pointing out the facts.
@@shadowdragon-whatif keep your opinions to yourself
@@malicious_intentionssthat not a good reason
The Goat is back!!!!
Knuckles is way more powerful than amy
then how did she send him into a tree even off guard he would be able to take it.
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Yayyyyy I love this guyy(I have no idea wat to say._.)
And number 0. Is fleetway sonic💀
Fleetway sonic isnt all that powerful, he hasn't beaten anybody that modern sonic can beat, and he also is just a variation of sonic.
@@Segasonic_ you definitely forgot fleetway sonic because he the crooked teeth menace💀
@@Jogoat_d_god yeah, he is just a variation of sonic. Saying he is stronger is a stretch, he is the same place as super sonic
He's only going by canon characters
ngl a number 4 position for Silver is quite fair. He’s just like me not even gonna hold you, I hope they do give him that experience in future to the games so more people can acknowledge his strength & rank him as one of the STRONGEST characters in the franchise
Dang the cope coming from y'all Shadow fans rn. Y'all need to chill and let Blaze have a win for once fr fr. 💀
Yoooo tyrecordslol vid W
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@@Micsize WHAT HE SAID 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
SEGA knew what they were doing when naming Eggman Nega
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Felt like listening to this while doing homework 😭😭😭
I hate blaze
Why
Me too
Why tho
@@Oliver-t5r idk why
Because her design is stupid and I hate how strong she is she doesn't deserve to be that strong and knuckles can be blaze in a fight
Ty you're the best
YAY HE UPLOADED
"I bet tangle would love climbing around these ruins" sonic in sonic frontiers talking about tangle, a character from the IDW comics.
Tyrecords your my favourite UA-camr I always watch you and it brightens my day!
Best ytber fr
ive never played these games, but, i fw this video, idk why.
The Superform is and will always be Goated. Blaze and Shadow's super forms looks the coolest to me.
9:11 never heard a sonic fan say this. But I honestly agree, not to mention how much wasted potential he has
The UA-camr 🔥🗿
yo yo yo its a good day when ty uploads
Another W vid, no surprise there
yeah Finally, the champion of comparisons
and Can you do a comparison between Sonic and Goku?
When will this saitima vs sonic or goku end bruh😭😭🙏💀
ngl i expected the invincible screen to pop up when u were about to say it lmao
Love your vid
Hey there Ty! Been watching for a while, just wanted to say hi!
You give me so much information of the best
HE FINALLY DID THIS VID!!!
Hi I'm a big fan
Fun fact, i think super mecha sonic and super classic sonic deserve to be on here tbh.
Ty made a new video let’s goooo
Shadow's air shoes should allow him to run on water unlike Sonic unless he's boosting
Hi Tyler I'm such a huge fan since I was 9❤
Bro's tier list is Goated
you should do a video with all the versions of metal sonic from fanmade one like metallix to newer ones like neo metal sonic and btw huge fan luv your videos.
Metallix isnt fanmade lol. He comes from the same comics that made fleetway super sonic. Johnny vector already made a video about him though.
@@Segasonic_ damn then its truly "no use"
You know I respect your video and like also. But one thing about shadow and why he is built different from the rest… Is because he aware and restrain himself from the rest and hold back because he knows he can cause some serious damage. As to why he doesn’t take his rings off because that alone releases all of his power making him top 1 even without his super form now imagine him in super form without his rings and going out 100%. Most of us knows how sa2 ended. But that sa2 not shadow now. But I love the video tho it awesome how you explained your opinion and I respect it 100%.
The fact he put amy above Tails is crazy considering she never goes super canonically
4:56
Bro became the SA2 NPCs with that mistake
17:42 the idw comics are cannon because Tangle is mentioned in sonic fronteirs (no hate your entitled to your opinion)
Anyone notice he put the flying squirrel when talking about mighty
First of all, it was shadow's first time going super while sonic went super in sonic 2,3 and adventure.
Second, shadow did say sonic was the ultimate lifeform because shadow thought he was going to die but since he didn't die he changed his mind on sonic being the ultimate lifeform.
But I think shadow in position 3 is fair.
@@hollowmanner36
Shadow being below Blaze is bs
@@AbdalSamad1 now that I think about it, it is bs
@@hollowmanner36
True
Goated man
9:34 ahh yes sonic has his pal Sonic 😂
10:39 ptsd indeed but no way bro thought that lil punch would kick hin out his super form
12:22 at a time he thought Sonic was the ultimate life form later entries after he basically came from back from the dead. He most likely rescinded that compliment. That's the simple answer