JULY 2022 UPDATE: This video now has over ONE MILLION VIEWS twelve months after I initially uploaded it! No other Veach video comes close. Thank you all so very much! Keep the mystery alive so that the solution to the Veach disappearance can be found.
OMG, I just found out about the Kenny Veach case today and I just saw your comment posted a few hours ago. it is not strange? I hope you're not thinking of entering that mine... btw I'm a sensitive person and my body trembled when i saw that image at 2:09 it seems to be a door.
Have over like maybe police and government if you can get them to see what's going on over there maybe they turned into a alien edit but I believe in God don't think I don't believe in God†
From what you showed, that cave seemed pretty easy to find for Kenny since he was so familiar with that area. My opinion is that this was not the infamous M cave. It does appear to be setup to mask the real one with the scratching, the sign and poor attempt to seal it. If it was to be covered by the military, some C4 would have done it. There are many that believe the feelings Kenny was getting while getting near the cave was a non lethal military weapon to keep people away. Thank you for all your videos love them all.
In my opinion, the sickness hikers experience when poking their heads in these caves is caused by breathing in hemotoxic pools of gases, left there either naturally or as pollution from the air force corrupting underground channels with fuel byproducts. It explains the fear, vomiting, nerve attacks, faintness and weakness. Attempts may have been made to fill in holes in the area to keep the public safe, not to conceal secret bases.
He said it went way back, he weren’t sure if a mountain lion or something similar was inside, you can clearly see inside this small gap in the rocks
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i agree for me this is not the infamous M cave, if it was or kenny body or something would be here and i think kevin would recover it on the spot if it was this one, and sorry but it doe's a m but for me the kenny cave was waaay bigger
You really think they would make the effort the create a fake M shaped cave in an area people rarely visit? If they really didnt want people to be there nobody would.
In Kenny’s original video he described the cave to be “as tall as him” so that he could walk into it and very deep. I don’t think this is it. I’ve seen other youtubers looking out there and saw other “M” shaped caves in their videos. Maybe make a map of every M shaped cave you come across out there. One of them have to be it.
@@fyodor_thefashionicon this is what the guy died over?😂 woooooow. Oh wait this is also the same guy is suspected to still be alive? Because of that break in at his sisters store if I remember right
he died form exposure or an injury. or he killed himself. One day his bones will be found. To think he was killed to protect a secret entrance to a not so secret open air base is laughable.
@@bigman4407 He was told of a undisclosed location by a military personnel near Area 51. If anyone happened to "fall of of the sky" lost in that specific location and were genuinely lost...i think, yes...you are correct. However I don't think people get accidentally lost near area 51, while also NOT knowing they are near Aera 51.
There's definitely something off about that wall. Those cracks as well as clear air coming out is definitely out of place. I'm also surprised you didn't mention how "out of place" everything is. Even once again - those cracks on the wall are just not right. You should seriously ought to organize for more people to come back and for some very good friend in a different city/state to know about the specific location, who's going there, what time, etc - so he could at least make media aware if something were to happen to you. You should also consider bringing some "special camera" which would be thin enough to go through the cracks and give you some input of what's behind the wall! This definitely looks like "M" shaped cave. And for those who say that "it couldn't be the cave because Kenny described it as "deep and dark" - well we haven't seen what's behind those rocks... yet!
UA-cam channel "EWU Unsolved" just covered Kenny & the cave. They said many have searched for the cave & no one has found it. So, I'm directing people to your channel for this Frank. 👍
Awesome! Another channel here on UA-cam that has devoted a LOT of time to the Kenny Veach mystery is Andrew’s channel titled “Warlike Wrath.” He’s done countless in-depth analyses of the case and stuff like that. Worth checking out!
This was a long time ago. I have not forgotten about Kenny either because I was among some of the UA-camrs watching the M cave video back when he first went missing..It was like one of those stories you hear about when they say, "users went to reddit, and quickly solved the puzzle." It was shocking. It was worrisome. I just watched this guys M cave video and now they couldn't find him. I remember months later people were skeptical about all of this suspecting Kenny may have faked his own death. I can understand that also, it makes sense. If he faked his death it was brilliant. I just refuse to believe a man like him would do that. He had a daughter and he was probably a really great loving type of parent. I don't accept that he is in hiding, but maybe he started getting death threats and had to do it? His story became internet lore. I'm pretty sure Coast to Coast AM did a segment on him. This is an unsolved mystery and we should all go tear that cave apart to see if there really is a hidden opening.
ua-cam.com/video/UThQqvEquAY/v-deo.html 44:47 this just shows there’s something going on inside the caves. Please people go to the time stamp and listen to it. You going to need some tnt to blow that up.Something just don’t sit right with me on this one.
Dude… this video raised so many more questions for me. Why was there wind coming out of that crack? Why was there wood planks inside this random cave miles away from anything? Why was there a nail in the rock? What was the deal with that Area 51 sign, was that even real or did someone buy that in a gift shop and leave it there for someone else to find? Why did someone try to block off this this tiny cave if it’s so obviously non-dangerous? (Unless it is dangerous?) You know how heavy those rocks would be? Like 60-100lbs each. Why would someone go through the trouble of blocking it off. Even more strange is why didn’t they finish? Where’s the rest of the wood? Why is there only pieces of something obviously a lot bigger? Was it a wagon of some kind? Is that how they got the rocks there? Someone needs to go back with actual scientific equipment and do a real investigation. I know people that have the resources and equipment. If I only knew the exact coordinates. We could plot a trip out there using 4-wheelers and trailers and do some real work. Ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, geologists who could examine the cave for anomalies. Mr Veach said he felt vibrations and it made him scared. You said you didn’t feel any of that but you seemed obviously scared. I mean how long did it take you to get out there to investigate this cave? And then how long did you actually stay before bolting? What if there was some thing behind the rocks that was producing electromagnetic current? Electromagnetism can cause fear and paranoia. I am honestly intrigued
You ain’t heard of that whistleblower who exposed the alien’s underneath the grounds of military bases? He was in the military and had some pretty recasting wounds from a battle with those beings honestly if you saw them you’d believe nothing but something over a certain temperature could have caused it.
If you watch Kenny’s video he walks past this little cave and then to the S shaped valley but then he hits like a dead end and turns around and goes back to his truck.
No se si me entendieras por que soy español pero para mi el se metió al área 51 sin querer, lo vieron los guardias y lo mataron Y para mi que lo mataron y al cuerpo se lo mostraron a su novia y ellos le dijeron que si ella decía algo le iba a pasar el mismo final
Thanks for this comment, especially since the cave that Kenny Veach said he found was closer to Nellis Air Force Base somewhere nearby the famous Picture Canyon area. It's a small range of mountains with dozens of caves. If the cave is there, you most likely might find the remains of Kenny Veach, assuming he wasn't eaten by mountain lions in that area. This particular cave being so close to Area 51, if not on the base itself, is most likely a shelter of some kind. Based on the look of the wood, the wood seems to be no older than 20 years. It's weathered, but it's still in a condition that could used for another decade or so for light building of some sort.
Theory: cave near or on millitary base. Tired of people camping in it, they blocked it with a wooden door. That didn't work, so they filled it in with concrete or something immovable?
Native Americans often built walls like that for defense & shelter. May have been a good place to hide out for the night. Kenny was showing some signs of mental illness so may have seen/felt things that weren't there.
@@nefariumxxx Frank mentioned that part of the wall looked odd. Made me think of how around here they often have to seal up the openings of old coal mines to keep people out. I'd never heard about Kenny's story until this video. It's sad when someone doesn't get the help they need. Also I'd think that even a hidden secret entrance wouldn't make you have to crawl through it one at a time. Lol
Came here to say this. I’m somewhat of an alpinist myself, and you’ll find walls like this ALL over the peaks in the Sierra Nevada. People build them as windbreaks for emergency bivies.
@@W7DSY That kind of location is good for them - rocks to sunbathe on, shade to shelter in, and rock piles that they could catch rodents and lizards in.
Where'd the wood come from? It looked like pieces of a packing crate, no doubt brought there for firewood. But from where? I agree about the stone wall, it'll keep the wind off you and help hide the cave (and fire).
The creepiest thing about this to me, assuming this IS the cave Kenny found, is just the fact that there's a bunch of wood in the middle of the cave that looks like it was used for something. If it really is the cave that Kenny found, I really wonder what that wood even is.
couldve been blown in there by a storm. they werent huge logs or anything, and if it was an old prospector's shelter they might be from that era too...or even just from other hikers camping there for the night.
If Kenny stumbled onto the opening of the underground base which is said to be staffed by both military and EBE's that certainly fits with the whole story here, he definitely would not have been permitted to leave if he did.
I had to google Kenny Veach but the cave you found looks like an old cowboy camp. The stacked rocks are a windbreak for having a fire and for sleeping. There are 2 packrat nests (middens) in the cave - one in the upper left at 3:11 (you can see the droppings piled up so the nest probably goes back into that crack in the rock a bit) and the one at the end that the Area 51 sign is in, the sign most likely was carried there by the packrat, they do that.
I know this is 2 years old but to me it looks like this entrance was blown up after Kennys case got so much attention, would also explain why the sign you found is crumbled up and covered in dust which could have been created from an explosion.
@Dystopia54109 airflow coming from a small cave/hole in a rock is a bit odd, could be gases which, in some cases, are toxic. i wouldnt wanna breathe that in either. since in the follow-up video this area is now restricted, it might actually be plausible that there is toxic gas involved, or some other kind of tomfoolery
@Dystopia54109 Because it might be that the cave was artificially closed by the military (but trying to make it look as natural), and that cave hides something important beneath that "improvised wall", something that the military doesn't want us to know about. So my guess is, that they are supervising that entrance constantly, just in case some dude tries to dig his way through the rocks. Staying there too long could make you target of lethal fire.
I used to be in the military (years ago), and I can assure you that there are many underground bases in places people would never guess. Around all big cities, is a sizeable base to hide the leadership of military and of the civilian high-ranking elected officials. Because, if a ballistic missile were to be coming in that city's direction, then these secret locations would open up and allow the Upper Cadre to gain entrance and protect them during the blast. So, everyone should also look around the outskirts of big cities to find similar entry points. They are often not hidden, as much, as one would think.
@@whitehusky3 any time I’d ask about where they are or how to find them my dad would always say “well i could tell you… but then I’d have to kill you. “ and I just accepted that. Lol. So I couldn’t help you. But would love to hear from anyone who does know of anything like that.
I don't believe this is the cave that Kenny was looking for. This is easy to spot and Kenny who was familiar with the area wouldn't have missed it. Thank you for going out there and exploring the cave, but just watching your video, I feel like there is something SUPER WRONG there ... that is, the scratch marks you pointed out as "Hatch" which actually means a door or "a covering for an opening area". I don't know why, but I feel like there's something hidden that needs to be discovered ... Otherwise, it is so random to find a cave that looks like M with some random lettering, hinting "a door".
I mean ... it could be a hidden entrence or emergency exit to that base he was talking about ... and im not at all surprised ... a perfectly hidden exit for the personell if shit went wrong ... and just scratched out word hatch just to inform those who know that this is the place ... so yea... wouldnt be surprised if there is like a hidden cam somewhere and someone is just lookin at that dude
@@cheeseninjad we dont know that, he left his phone behind. He had no camera so he didnt want to film it, his girlfiend wrote under his video that he most likely took his own life beacuse of qutting work, depression and other problems that led him to not wanting to be found
That airflow coming through that hole is a dead giveaway. That means that there has to be an entrance to an open area along that wall.. You did the smart thing by leaving though.
@@Vingul True but I also noticed his tone of voice change when he said "I feel like I've overstayed my welcome" at the end there, at the very least that airflow gave him a chill down the spine...
I am not suggesting that you should go back, but it would be very exciting if it was investigated by a team of people, you know so no one else dies, because it certainly looks like it’s blocked off with concrete or something.
Interesting how you started feeling uncomfortable about being there. I don't know how far this is from the boundary of Area 51, but the Area 51 sign was probably taken from somewhere else and brought there. It looks like somebody was working on building a little fire pit and had brought up the wood. The dowel with the reduced diameter on the ends looks like a chair rung. If you felt some cold air coming from some of the cracks I would tend to think that this could have been a mine entrance that had been back filled or collapsed. No idea if this is the same "M" cave that Kenny referred to in his video, but it was an interesting exploration anyway.
I dunno, him feeling uncomfortable seems like a self fulfilling prophecy to me. Due to the caves supposed backstory and him putting the ide he should be uncomfortable in his head by saying he didn't feel anything. It'd be interesting to bring somebody who hasn't heard the story out there and see if they feel the same naturally.
Why would anyone bring a bunch of "firewood" (perfectly fine building wood) to some remote place and then not make a fire with it at all (nothing burned)?
@@Vingul Might end up being a bad idea tho. I find that sign to be one of the most sus things about that cave. Obviously someone brought it from another area, it shouldn't be in that area. So who took that sign there, HOW did they manage to get the sign w/o being shot, and WHY did they leave it in that cave after going thru the bother of obtaining it? It wasn't hanging up, just left there... As if they're trying not to make the cave itself look like the restricted area, but left the sign as a hint to anyone that came there, just remember you're mortal and turn right back around...
6:22 sees area 51 sign and he seems scared right there and then 7:50 airflow through the cracks "WELL I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE. I THINK I OVER STAYED MY WELCOME" and there he goes. Those rocks seems really suspicious. It really feels like there was an opening there.
@@vnkdabaz3513 he means a false seal..like someone made it appear to be natural..unfortunately I don't think he "dissapeared" due to an accident or stumbling upon something he shouldn't of. He was battling depression for a while and I believe he may have taken his own life somewhere far out there deep in a crevasse or a cave so nobody would or could find him.
Given the mysterious circumstances around it, I wouldn’t go there at all Someone actually warned him from going in there and later he went missing in the same area. You’re brave.
I wish you could do more searching and digging around in that little M cave. I have a feeling there was more than meets the eye. Just don't disappear on us if you see an alien.
There was a video of a guy who was headed to area 51 and near the entrance he came across two old ladies who definitely did not look human at all, they looked like characters straight out of courage the cowardly dog, the video is nowhere to be found now because I tried to find it and no luck.
@@nicholasholloway8743 yeah, I always hate when I see people say the government "tried" to hide something it is very rare if not entirely impossible for the government to fail at hiding something, the only reason we know 99.9% of the shit they do/did is because they let us know. The truth is if the government wanted to hide this cave they would've done a lot better job 😂
My theory is that Kenny felt electromagnetic current from inside the cave being the reason he was feeling dreadful and when he left the rocks have probably fell blocking the cave's entrance and when Kenny was looking for it again he couldn't find it and got lost trapped within the perimeters of Area 51 also about the sign the sign was probably hand put in there to prevent people from coming in but since the rocks fell it knocked over the sign, for the wood and the nail in the rock I have no idea, but for the airflow it seems like the rocks you defined as " Suspicious " were hollow and the flow of air passes through what evers inside it. That's my theory.
I found a bunker type entrance on the side Kennesaw Mountain GA a few years back. I'm the type that wanders off the trails and I noticed a 90° angle through the woods one day while exploring. It was supper sketch. There was a blast door in the front that looked welded shut from the inside, and there was also a metal trap door on the top side. I could lift the door maybe a couple inches only to find that it was chained with a padlock on the inside. I've always wanted to go back back with a portable plasma cutter. My theory is that it connects to Dobbins AFB with isn't that far away. Considering it was closed and sealed from the inside only, leads me to believe there are other ways to get in. Who wants to go check it out with me? Still remember the exact location...
Very nicely done. Looks like an old mine entrance that has been back filled to keep people from going in the mine. If one feels uneasy in a mine or a cave, it's time to retreat and get out. But yet I heard wind coming from the cracks in the rocks.
@@chriswillis8069 but it's an area 51 base tho isnt it weird that Kenny found a cave right next to area 51 and got the weirdest feeling tried to go back to document it and just disappeared? That's not a coincidence and I believe that the government is hiding something and kenny found it and they killed him
@@ipeed that weird feeling he spoke about is extremely similar to that of an Active Denial System which is a non lethal defense used by the military to deter people from restricted areas. It makes you feel super hot and uncomfortable from a distance
Looks like a very intriguing place. Thanks for sharing with us! I will say though, Kenny had stated the M Cave was very deep, and this cave is shallow. Still a very interesting spot!
A lot and I mean A LOT of people are living in caves in the desert around Vegas!! I don't go 4 wheeling alone anymore because of it. I had more than a couple of instances where I encountered people when I thought I was alone; especially near Lake Mead.
@@TheDamageinc81 On the dirt road out to Skidoo, pretty early in the drive there was an old rusted car on the right and a mine with a big opening and an open stope a ways in . . In the big room there was a table and 2 chairs, a breakfast cereal bowl recently used, half a bottle of wine and some canned food. We skedaddled on our way to Skidoo after that !
@@whuzzzup - I wouldn't call it hostile but I definitely stumbled into areas where I shouldn't have been alone & female. I talked my way out of there or I never stopped to chit chat with anyone.....I just drove on. I only encountered 2 women total on my travels and they were with other men out there. Regardless, to find anyone living out in the desert is quite surreal.
The fact that Kenny himself said that he felt 'vibration'or overall uncomfortable, means that since he was near Area 51 He might have gone near a highly classified area. They use these machines to deny entry of such unemployed people to swat them off. (Vibration, heat ect.) This here is not the real cave. Seems that it may be a fake, or uninhabited. When you are talking about the government, these people are smart- and they will do whatever it takes to cover themselves.... Even if it means termination.
This is my favorite mystery I would love to solve. I hope there's a chance Kenny made it he was such a kind soul and to find out the truth would make myself and many other happy to just know why and what happened.
His girlfriend said she's pretty confident he committed suicide, he had lost his job, was diagnosed with depression and refused to take his meds. She also claims his video camera was still in his place, so he went out there with no intentions of filming.
I seen a docu on this tonight and the g/f said she and Kenny went to see the movie "Birdman" the night before he set out on that last hike. I also think he committed suicide as his father before him. Although the daughter doesn't think he would take his own life.
I really think either they filled the cave and that’s why you can’t go any further in cause Kenny said he was able to stand inside meaning the cave had to have been at least 8ft tall for him to go in with out crouching cause I doubt anyone would go into a cave that looks like you can’t come back out or looks like a tight squeez
I think that spot that the editor outilened in red was actually the opened part and the government closed it up…. Please recognize this so people can realize that this could be what happened
Hi Frank. Kenny described in his video that upon entering this particular cave, he felt an overwhelming vibration which spooked him so much he turned around and left. I wouldn't doubt that because of this vibration, it had, no doubt strings to Area 51. And, because of its discovery by Kenny, I believe this location was then filled so no longer can it be investigated by anyone else. Is Kenny Veach behind that makeshift wall, no one knows. I love your channel and explorations that gave me a new interest for caves and abandoned mines. One mine in particular actually scared the daylights out of me. I can't remember the actual name of it, however, it's the cave where you heard what you thought was "Snakes" but it was actually "chanting like whispering." Being there I realize is far more different than watching a video!! You then realized as well, I guess while editing, that the chanting is what you thought were"Snakes!!" That video is one on my favorite list in your collection of explorations! As always Frank, first and foremost, please remain Safe and Healthy my brother. NYC loves you!🤟 P. S. That DEFINITELY says "HATCH" and IS DELIBERATELY scratched there!
@@timbodnar6711 why do you have to be an ass? Why can't you just leave one to their opinion?? People like you fkn Suck and aren't happy unless they say shitty things to people. How sad are you.
@@dabidibup didn't even push the dirt away to see the floor. Also the hatch could've been under the pile of rocks with metal sign and didn't even look closer
@@ChannelNotFound that’s what I was thinking too…I’m not a cave explorer but I have ventured into some at Mathieson State Park and explored the rock more closely than this video. 🤷🏻♀️ Hard to say not being the one inside it looking but just seemed sort of like “found an M” nothing inside but pcs of wooden planks🤔🤷🏻♀️😊
The M cave was completely walled off and sealed by someone I think it’s absolutely heartwarming that people are still trying to help find Kenny! It gives me some hope in humanity
The pieces of wood that was there was by the mine that Kenny was at in his last video. It led down to a deep underground bunker it looked like. It’s still very eerie.. this entire situation still gives me the shivers as to what happened 🥺
@@Andrei_Antonov i dunno, and it’s sad to say that most likely nobody will ever know. But my speculations are that either his body is just out in the middle of the desert, in a hidden area, and just not found yet.
If you notice in the cave you can see where the rock and the cement separates someone put cement there to block off it off you can also see how dirt was thrown all over it to make it look natural
Fun fact, I moved to Vegas when I was 19 (Back in 99), got a job cleaning bus's that would transport workers out to Area 51. And every single day, probably 1 out of 5 buses would come back with a seat covered in vomit. And no, these were not party buses, and no the vomit did not smell like someone had been drinking. I always found that weird as hell.
I can't believe I've never heard this story before till now, wow this is crazy man. It looks like the entrance to the cave was deliberately closed off and covered up to look like there was never any entrance there.. but we know that there was if this was really the M Cave. Sad to think of what might've happened to Kenny..
Sry but if our military doesn’t want you to find it... you won’t. Still very interesting! And if you do start finding stuff... be very careful with what you post. Much Respect man🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Holy hell, the way his tone immediately changed and he FO'd from the cave after finding the sign. That's a "This is actually real and I need to leave NOW" type of dread. Terrifying
i remember this story, i heard it years ago and it was so interesting, i didn’t know if anyone else found the infamous m cave, but the fact that you found what was most likely the m cave is really cool 😎
I saw a video on tiktok, of kenny recording the cave entrance, it was shaped like the letter M and much smaller entrance, and he was talking about going back there another time, so I don’t think it is this cave
Nevermind because he said it was shaped like a giantic M and the one in the video wasn’t big, it was probably another youtuber who thought he found that cave or maybe him thinking how he found it again but he didnt
@@MAD-kh2oy kenny found something he wasnt supposed to. That's the reason he kept going back he knew something was there. When he found what he wanted to find the government killed him and covered up the original "M cave" and made this replica to throw anyone looking for kenny, off their trail. Theres a lot more at play and I have such a hard time believing that the military isnt at play
Kenny called it a cave, that’s like too small to be a cave, so I think they are hiding something and covered it up, he noticed some airflow which is interesting and that wall does seem suspicious, I wish some people would sneak down there and mine through that wall. I know it seems crazy but the military could of killed him for what he saw idk pretty crazy stuff
The fact there was air returning from the crack means that cave isn't as shallow as it seemed. Somewhere there is a shift running through. Maybe walled off or maybe at some other point in the area. Love videos like these. Exploration of the unknown is extremely fascinating! Subscribing!
That small wall around the entrance/opening of the cave was probably built as a fire reflector. (It gets quite cold in the desert at night) This looks like a shelter used by trappers or prospectors in the late 1800's. Based off the old wood and the style of nails, I'd say this was long term camping shelter for someone. I dont see much of anything to be suspicious about.
People really try to justify a hidden entrance to some kind of secret facility anywhere in the DESERT. Whatever they are smoking or snorting they need to stop. Thank you for your rational analyses.
At 5:56 when you go for the piece of metal, you can clearly see wood “in” “under” the dirt at the bottom of the screen. Did you try to dig and see if you were sitting on top of the hatch?
@A M if you look super close, at that exact time under the loose dirt u can see different wood inside the ground, just like the corner of a 2x4 but strangely it looks like it could be a hatch😳😳
yes there is a door or inside in this moment i do realise that too and the word is to any one come there to try find the truth and dig that point to find what theye shouldnt fond
I've been to dozens of military and government installations and there's never ever a secret hatch that's unguarded and just randomly situated where people can find it, outside controlled corridors. These facilities are contained and within layers of highly secured areas...
I figured as much as well. I don't believe any of the conspiracies. What needs to be secured or hidden the military probably secured just through normal means.
@@thetacoguyy Tell you what- you find an unguarded secret hatch outside the secure perimeters that leads to a secret base and I'll buy you a flock of awesome unicorns. Deal?
This guy did indeed find it. His senses started to go off when he felt that airflow, that’s the moment all doubt that nothing was there went away. He in a instant said “I need to go I’ve overstayed my welcome”
Nice work! Here's a few things to consider...The wood is quite old, so whatever it was used for happened a fair time back. Someone went to a good bit of effort to haul it up there, so the project was somewhat important. Many of the pieces of wood are short and have peculiar ends, suggesting they may have been used as rungs on a ladder (either rope or wooden). Alternatively, the wood may have been used to close off the entrance to the cave (perhaps by a prospector or hunter) making a fairly good shelter. There may be a mine shaft in the floor of the cave that was filled in with rubble and dirt. The back wall of the cave is pretty interesting, especially the circular area you pointed out. Not only does the circular feature stand out, but the rock appears to possibly be unnatural in that it may be constructed of small rocks joined with some type of mortar and camouflaged with smoke residue from a fire. The hole in the ceiling of the cave at 3:12 and 6:35 that has bat guano around the opening is also interesting and suggests there may be a larger cave within. Sure wish you had brought along a pick and shovel...
Imagine being caught driving a pick against the rock of this cave with a shovel leaning against it by a black SUV.... "hey, what you doing there buddy?........"
My theory on what happened to kenny: He wasnt trying to film the inside of the cave (his camera gear was at home when he was missing) but instead he was trying to find out what was in the cave as he must have knew that there was something in it. The military in area 51 found this out and killed him, completely removing his ID and any existance of him
I also think it was attached to area 51 and that what kenny felt when he was near it was something that area 51 has been using. I think kenny writ hatch when he was looking around too. Then once they removed his ID, they tried to cover the cave off. Where the hatch is u may ask? It is behind the back wall or the back of the floor cuz u can see where it has been covered off by rock and dirt.
I also read another theory where there was rat droppings where he sat down and that is where a deep space usaly is (the cave). But again this cave can be a whole setup and the cave was a dead end but a smart trick by area 51. They could have covered the back wall in weak concrete and put rat droppings just so that people would try and look there. But it could be that one at the same time. Maybe look for weak rocks in a mountain and if you cant find any then that is ur spot. when digging it out (if its that cave or the other one) try not to stay there for long periods of time and maybe study the guard movement. Then, make a schedual on what time u will be there. Dig it out with a few people too so it is quicker and u will probably need something to remove what material that is on the back wall. And that is where i end for now. Good day
@@ytsposter. first of all you can't spell and second of all he is saying that we will probably never see Kenny again so idk how he just cares about himself get your facts right
Yeah! That's the cave that shows in Kenny's famous video. I always pointed that out, while filming, he pass by the M cave without even knowing it was there.
Walling off shallow caves is a common practice for making a shelter. You see these a lot in the highland and lowland deserts in the southwest. Some sites still found today have been known to date all the way back to the era of westward expansion. A fire is made at one side of the cave opening, and the stacked rocks block off the remainder. The fire and rock wall provides a barrier against predators, and helps to hold the heat in. The rocks are only stacked up a couple feet, leaving room for flue ventilation.
if he found a hatch we would have never seen this video. even if he got out fine and uploaded it the video wouldve been removed immediately and he wouldve been arrested afterwards
when you first sat down and can see your boots there are a load of rat droppings collected into a small area. a rat, being a prey animal would not nest in such a shallow cave, deeper into a mineshaft yes, but not somewhere that dead ends like that. suggests to me that weak concrete / plaster at the back has been put there recently and a collection of brought from elsewhere items left behind to make it appear like it is natural and long since anyone was there. may i suggest a hand drill, microphone and small rock hammer if you go to stay there overnight you can record audio and test if it is hollow. if you gather any interesting data i will travel to nevada and dig the bastard out. they can't kill me ha
I agree. It looks a lot like concrete formed to have a look like old stones. You should hammer it with a small hammer to hear the difference to stone walls. There will be a clear different noise to it.
If you look on the unreleased footage of him stood at his car speaking to camera, he is holding a bottle of beer, which looks just like the bottle that was found in this cave!
Everytime he said, "Okay, I have gotta get outta here." I thought a soldier will come up and take him to the military base. Just like a random games starting scene.
The county sheriff might have closed that cave with explosives (they often do) probably upon request from someone who wanted no further exploration. The area 51 sign that you dug out is a pretty good indication that the someone was a security officer from NTS. Find an old retired miner to look the site over for a little expertise on closings.
Remember Kenny said that he had received a phone message from an unknown source warning him off of the place but my gut tell's that what you found is not the right cave. Thank you for inviting us along and sharing your experiences.
@@genesis_cr the very first time that I ever saw the original video, (not this one), Kenny talked about the phone call. If you're really interested go do a search & find his COMPLETE video. Good luck-
Yeah the wall looks like a hole was plugged. I was thinking that it was previously open and maybe that wood that’s in the cave was across the entrance before they sealed it up. Definitely looks they were going to wall it off. Something is strange. I can’t imagine what happened to that poor man.
Let's all remember when in his last video kenny said "I'm going to enjoy this beer". Unlabeled still looks like a beer bottle. Kenny made it to that cave. Just where did he go from there
That wooden dowel was 100% for a ladder. If that was once an entrance, one could only assume there was a ladder that you used to go down to a transport tunnel of some sort that would lead you inside area 51. This isn't the only entrance that's out there, I'm sure.
Good find, Frank. But from what I've heard/read about Kenny Veach, almost anything would have made him vibrate. I think he was either a suicide, or there's a skeleton in the bottom of a vertical shaft someplace. It was well-known he would go out with minimum provisions, including water. Your thoughts?
Thank you so much for taking the time to explore this for all of us. I only found this from another related video of people gone missing, hearing about Kenny I looked it up and found this. Not quite sure if scratch marks say anything. Cave look like an entrance that's all and ends soon as you enter. People have said to "Kenny" not to go in the "M" Cave! You will never come back out. So, I think it's not the right one being so short, I didn't see any signs of a covered door or hatchway.
Logically how would this be the same cave? Kenny said in his video he went back to get his gun so he he could explore it and protect himself from potential danger. This cave you don’t even need to step inside to see the whole thing… no one would need protection in the form of a firearm for this.
Old Sheahan family mine claim. Silver chloride and lead, probably low yielding and filled in. The right side of the M seen from far away is the crack where natural air and gases seep out, what you observed at the end (air flow) and your body telling you there was a change in oxygen level in that area (dread/flight instinct). Walled up but periodically used by wanderers and explorers. Digging down and back at 35 degrees you’d probably come across the original shaft. My best guess at a glance. That whole giant rock shooting up would have fissures once you get in it.
I just found this, and it is honestly scary about all the ways Kenny could have went missing. Especially the parts where he found the area 51 sign, the scratch marks, the wood pieces, and the bottle. The fact that the cave has tried to cover up is even more mysterious. Here is my theory: I feel like when Kenny Veach was inside, something had trapped him in, which is probably the cave. Remember when Kenny said that he had felt Vibration? Well, what if the scratches on the cave was him trying to write a message for the other people to look more deep into this place. And the vibration probably led him to a different place (If Kenny found the place again). And the bottle is probably from him, because maybe he was trying to explore this cave again, so I think he came prepared. I also feel like someone was trying to trap him inside, which is probably why there is all sorts of wood pieces. But yeah, this is my theory. I am really interested in this , so if you guys know more about this, it would really help me out, since I just learned about this today. Thank you for your time!
ua-cam.com/video/UThQqvEquAY/v-deo.html 44:47 this just shows there’s something going on inside the caves. Please people go to the time stamp and listen to it. You going to need some tnt to blow that up.Something just don’t sit right with me on this one.
Kind of surprised you didn’t snag that sign like most guys probably would including myself even if I had to do it off camera that thing is going up in the man cave 🤣
haha i probably would have too. Im pretty sure it was a fake sign though because the military never refers to the base as area 51. Usually groom lake or nellis air force range. I feel like they wouldnt put up a sign referring to it as area 51 in front of a cave. I could be totally wrong though
JULY 2022 UPDATE: This video now has over ONE MILLION VIEWS twelve months after I initially uploaded it! No other Veach video comes close. Thank you all so very much! Keep the mystery alive so that the solution to the Veach disappearance can be found.
OMG, I just found out about the Kenny Veach case today and I just saw your comment posted a few hours ago. it is not strange? I hope you're not thinking of entering that mine... btw I'm a sensitive person
and my body trembled when i saw that image at 2:09 it seems to be a door.
theres already multiple videos made before this about the M cave with more views, this is a popular youtube mystery
Have over like maybe police and government if you can get them to see what's going on over there maybe they turned into a alien edit but I believe in God don't think I don't believe in God†
@@osmopolito àqaà,p
Did you find your way out of the cave and survive or be found
From what you showed, that cave seemed pretty easy to find for Kenny since he was so familiar with that area. My opinion is that this was not the infamous M cave. It does appear to be setup to mask the real one with the scratching, the sign and poor attempt to seal it. If it was to be covered by the military, some C4 would have done it. There are many that believe the feelings Kenny was getting while getting near the cave was a non lethal military weapon to keep people away. Thank you for all your videos love them all.
@@nicholasholloway8743 then how did beach find it lmao
In my opinion, the sickness hikers experience when poking their heads in these caves is caused by breathing in hemotoxic pools of gases, left there either naturally or as pollution from the air force corrupting underground channels with fuel byproducts.
It explains the fear, vomiting, nerve attacks, faintness and weakness. Attempts may have been made to fill in holes in the area to keep the public safe, not to conceal secret bases.
He said it went way back, he weren’t sure if a mountain lion or something similar was inside, you can clearly see inside this small gap in the rocks
i agree for me this is not the infamous M cave, if it was or kenny body or something would be here and i think kevin would recover it on the spot if it was this one, and sorry but it doe's a m but for me the kenny cave was waaay bigger
You really think they would make the effort the create a fake M shaped cave in an area people rarely visit? If they really didnt want people to be there nobody would.
Interesting and the back story too. Unless a body turns of, or Kenny himself, we will probably never know what really happened.
Eaten by aliens prob.
What if the military has him they had something in that cave and he found it
Idk really he vanished
@@Paddingtonshorts solo hikers vanish all the time
His girlfriend believes that he commited suicide because he had fought deprrssion for a l9ng time
In Kenny’s original video he described the cave to be “as tall as him” so that he could walk into it and very deep. I don’t think this is it. I’ve seen other youtubers looking out there and saw other “M” shaped caves in their videos. Maybe make a map of every M shaped cave you come across out there. One of them have to be it.
Didn't he say it was at ground level aswell?
I feel like that’s a bit too small tho
I think he said it was in los vegas
@@angielou123 Thats what I was thinking and went back to the original video and you are correct.
Yeah that’s not the cave.
I feel so bad for Kenny Veach.... He was just a man who wanted people to believe the cave that he found😢
@@fyodor_thefashionicon this is what the guy died over?😂 woooooow.
Oh wait this is also the same guy is suspected to still be alive? Because of that break in at his sisters store if I remember right
@@User_yhvz he was also suspected to have committed suicide by his girlfriend and family, except his body was never found…
@@ThatOneGuyUsernameWords he didnt want to his body to found and he had told people if he did it no one would find him and he wanted a mystery.
he died form exposure or an injury. or he killed himself. One day his bones will be found. To think he was killed to protect a secret entrance to a not so secret open air base is laughable.
@Dystopia54109 The dude was abused and faked his own suicide to get away
The fact that he found an Area 51 warning sign is creepy af.
After turning the camera off to leave, I would have taken the Aera51 sign with me.
@@RodneyAEvans why would you take sign? You wouldn't want others to be warned?
That sign tells me all I needed to know. Dead to the feds and now a ghost of the desert forever
Area 51 is where they conduct satanic ritual sacrifices.
@@bigman4407 He was told of a undisclosed location by a military personnel near Area 51. If anyone happened to "fall of of the sky" lost in that specific location and were genuinely lost...i think, yes...you are correct. However I don't think people get accidentally lost near area 51, while also NOT knowing they are near Aera 51.
Well, Frank, I think it's fair to say: "the mystery continues"
Yes
His own girlfriend said he had been depressed, running out of money, struggling to get a business going and probably committed suicide.
@@philc3912 "probably" the mystery continues
@@security.930 he did
There's definitely something off about that wall. Those cracks as well as clear air coming out is definitely out of place. I'm also surprised you didn't mention how "out of place" everything is. Even once again - those cracks on the wall are just not right. You should seriously ought to organize for more people to come back and for some very good friend in a different city/state to know about the specific location, who's going there, what time, etc - so he could at least make media aware if something were to happen to you. You should also consider bringing some "special camera" which would be thin enough to go through the cracks and give you some input of what's behind the wall!
This definitely looks like "M" shaped cave. And for those who say that "it couldn't be the cave because Kenny described it as "deep and dark" - well we haven't seen what's behind those rocks... yet!
I'm no geologist, but the rock formations on the cave walls look unnatural to me.
@@wizzolo to me it looks a bit like concrete
@@wizzolo and i also agree that it looks unnatural. it gives the feeling that someone tried to block the cave up.
@@wizzolo what b0nkoi said.
Maybe that there used to be a mine shaft down there but is all covered up.
UA-cam channel "EWU Unsolved" just covered Kenny & the cave. They said many have searched for the cave & no one has found it. So, I'm directing people to your channel for this Frank. 👍
Awesome! Another channel here on UA-cam that has devoted a LOT of time to the Kenny Veach mystery is Andrew’s channel titled “Warlike Wrath.” He’s done countless in-depth analyses of the case and stuff like that. Worth checking out!
Ended up here from that video, definitely doing some digging
According to Kenny himself the cave is at ground level that's a known fact, the cave in this video is not.
@@AbandonedMines11 what do you think happened to epstein I mean veach?
I watched that yesterday!
This was a long time ago. I have not forgotten about Kenny either because I was among some of the UA-camrs watching the M cave video back when he first went missing..It was like one of those stories you hear about when they say, "users went to reddit, and quickly solved the puzzle." It was shocking. It was worrisome. I just watched this guys M cave video and now they couldn't find him. I remember months later people were skeptical about all of this suspecting Kenny may have faked his own death. I can understand that also, it makes sense. If he faked his death it was brilliant. I just refuse to believe a man like him would do that. He had a daughter and he was probably a really great loving type of parent. I don't accept that he is in hiding, but maybe he started getting death threats and had to do it? His story became internet lore. I'm pretty sure Coast to Coast AM did a segment on him. This is an unsolved mystery and we should all go tear that cave apart to see if there really is a hidden opening.
U from the tik tok
ua-cam.com/video/UThQqvEquAY/v-deo.html 44:47 this just shows there’s something going on inside the caves. Please people go to the time stamp and listen to it. You going to need some tnt to blow that up.Something just don’t sit right with me on this one.
Smarttt!
He killed himself.
Wait I’m confused why was he getting death threats?
Dude… this video raised so many more questions for me. Why was there wind coming out of that crack? Why was there wood planks inside this random cave miles away from anything? Why was there a nail in the rock? What was the deal with that Area 51 sign, was that even real or did someone buy that in a gift shop and leave it there for someone else to find? Why did someone try to block off this this tiny cave if it’s so obviously non-dangerous? (Unless it is dangerous?) You know how heavy those rocks would be? Like 60-100lbs each. Why would someone go through the trouble of blocking it off. Even more strange is why didn’t they finish? Where’s the rest of the wood? Why is there only pieces of something obviously a lot bigger? Was it a wagon of some kind? Is that how they got the rocks there? Someone needs to go back with actual scientific equipment and do a real investigation. I know people that have the resources and equipment. If I only knew the exact coordinates. We could plot a trip out there using 4-wheelers and trailers and do some real work. Ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, geologists who could examine the cave for anomalies. Mr Veach said he felt vibrations and it made him scared. You said you didn’t feel any of that but you seemed obviously scared. I mean how long did it take you to get out there to investigate this cave? And then how long did you actually stay before bolting? What if there was some thing behind the rocks that was producing electromagnetic current? Electromagnetism can cause fear and paranoia. I am honestly intrigued
Thank u. I thought i was overthinking all this.
So all you need is a travel guide. Someone to take you there?
Have you gone yet?
That cave resembles hundreds of natural caves in that region. Rocks fall and end up looking like they were intentionally stacked.
@@user-is3kn3gs6z he’s talking out of his ass, all he would need to do is get the location which isn’t hard
You ain’t heard of that whistleblower who exposed the alien’s underneath the grounds of military bases? He was in the military and had some pretty recasting wounds from a battle with those beings honestly if you saw them you’d believe nothing but something over a certain temperature could have caused it.
If you watch Kenny’s video he walks past this little cave and then to the S shaped valley but then he hits like a dead end and turns around and goes back to his truck.
What are you trying to say?
After the Kenny Veach incident, I think the authorities in Area 51 closed this place, but inside the cave.
No se si me entendieras por que soy español pero para mi el se metió al área 51 sin querer, lo vieron los guardias y lo mataron
Y para mi que lo mataron y al cuerpo se lo mostraron a su novia y ellos le dijeron que si ella decía algo le iba a pasar el mismo final
@@Proyect30Dayss yo creo lo mismo
@@Proyect30Dayss Por algo estaba ahi el letrero De Area 51 Fuerza Letal
@@ronaldaparicio5408
Verdad, la curiosidad lo mató.
@@Proyect30Dayss Y es su cuenta real, la que tiene en Facebook, pq su ultimo post fue en 2014 :0
This appears to have been a prospectors home. We find these frequently in the desert. The wall they built was to protect them from the elements.
Most sensible comment on this video.
Crazy how all the top comments are conspiracy theroys. This isn’t even the same M cave.
Thanks for this comment, especially since the cave that Kenny Veach said he found was closer to Nellis Air Force Base somewhere nearby the famous Picture Canyon area. It's a small range of mountains with dozens of caves. If the cave is there, you most likely might find the remains of Kenny Veach, assuming he wasn't eaten by mountain lions in that area. This particular cave being so close to Area 51, if not on the base itself, is most likely a shelter of some kind. Based on the look of the wood, the wood seems to be no older than 20 years. It's weathered, but it's still in a condition that could used for another decade or so for light building of some sort.
Prospector?
@@RNCHFNDhomeless/drifter
Theory: cave near or on millitary base. Tired of people camping in it, they blocked it with a wooden door. That didn't work, so they filled it in with concrete or something immovable?
Exactly my thoughts
Also they didn't want anybody using it as a "base" if they wanted to do some spying etc., to elaborate.
Native Americans often built walls like that for defense & shelter. May have been a good place to hide out for the night. Kenny was showing some signs of mental illness so may have seen/felt things that weren't there.
@@nefariumxxx Frank mentioned that part of the wall looked odd. Made me think of how around here they often have to seal up the openings of old coal mines to keep people out. I'd never heard about Kenny's story until this video. It's sad when someone doesn't get the help they need.
Also I'd think that even a hidden secret entrance wouldn't make you have to crawl through it one at a time. Lol
@@-Batman- Also, Why put up a warning sign in a small opening in a rock wall that literally goes nowhere?
Take Care All
I think that “wall” you are referring to is meant to be a windbreak
Came here to say this. I’m somewhat of an alpinist myself, and you’ll find walls like this ALL over the peaks in the Sierra Nevada. People build them as windbreaks for emergency bivies.
@@MrDavercadaver It's a good location for that although don't rattlesnakes like to hang out in those kind of places?
@@thursoberwick1948 In the desert they can be anywhere at any time, but on a warm/hot day, in the shade.
@@W7DSY That kind of location is good for them - rocks to sunbathe on, shade to shelter in, and rock piles that they could catch rodents and lizards in.
Where'd the wood come from? It looked like pieces of a packing crate, no doubt brought there for firewood. But from where?
I agree about the stone wall, it'll keep the wind off you and help hide the cave (and fire).
The creepiest thing about this to me, assuming this IS the cave Kenny found, is just the fact that there's a bunch of wood in the middle of the cave that looks like it was used for something. If it really is the cave that Kenny found, I really wonder what that wood even is.
Who's Kenny and what's up with him
@@user-jc4pu2ul8e The guy who first found the M Cave who went missing going back to it
i mean it could just be broken wood pieces tossed in there by travelers a long time ago
Are you sure that's the creepiest part about all this? A few planks of wood?
couldve been blown in there by a storm. they werent huge logs or anything, and if it was an old prospector's shelter they might be from that era too...or even just from other hikers camping there for the night.
If Kenny stumbled onto the opening of the underground base which is said to be staffed by both military and EBE's that certainly fits with the whole story here, he definitely would not have been permitted to leave if he did.
Why would the military have a secret underground base accessible from public land and leave it unguarded?
@@fortyseven1832 maybe backup exits? Idk
@@Plane_Person Or a long forgotten entrance/Exit, that was built before the technology.
FREE MASONRY
@@holycow4889 true
It’s set to M for mini, when you need to set it to W for wumbo.
Oh yes i have been looking into mystery’s all day and have not left the room I’m glad I have a spongbob joke to lighten the mood
Lol
Are you kidding me, Kenny Veach died and you jest like this?!........lol spongebob reference nice
My thoughts exactly!
They just don’t get it, people dedicate years of their lives to find the cave for Kenny’s memory.
I had to google Kenny Veach but the cave you found looks like an old cowboy camp. The stacked rocks are a windbreak for having a fire and for sleeping. There are 2 packrat nests (middens) in the cave - one in the upper left at 3:11 (you can see the droppings piled up so the nest probably goes back into that crack in the rock a bit) and the one at the end that the Area 51 sign is in, the sign most likely was carried there by the packrat, they do that.
Your moms a packrat
yep
I know this is 2 years old but to me it looks like this entrance was blown up after Kennys case got so much attention, would also explain why the sign you found is crumbled up and covered in dust which could have been created from an explosion.
he literally looked in a hole with airflow and was like alright better leave now lol
Lmfao I thought the same 😂😂😂 fuck that I’m turning around and leaving ..
@Dystopia54109 I think it’s more like there’s more to the cave behind the crack an it’s freaky
@Dystopia54109 airflow coming from a small cave/hole in a rock is a bit odd, could be gases which, in some cases, are toxic. i wouldnt wanna breathe that in either. since in the follow-up video this area is now restricted, it might actually be plausible that there is toxic gas involved, or some other kind of tomfoolery
@Dystopia54109 Because it might be that the cave was artificially closed by the military (but trying to make it look as natural), and that cave hides something important beneath that "improvised wall", something that the military doesn't want us to know about. So my guess is, that they are supervising that entrance constantly, just in case some dude tries to dig his way through the rocks. Staying there too long could make you target of lethal fire.
@Dystopia54109 I believe it means there is a cavity inside if air is circulating so there is probably something in there
I used to be in the military (years ago), and I can assure you that there are many underground bases in places people would never guess. Around all big cities, is a sizeable base to hide the leadership of military and of the civilian high-ranking elected officials. Because, if a ballistic missile were to be coming in that city's direction, then these secret locations would open up and allow the Upper Cadre to gain entrance and protect them during the blast. So, everyone should also look around the outskirts of big cities to find similar entry points. They are often not hidden, as much, as one would think.
Both my parents were in the Air Force for over 20 years and they have told me the same thing.
How big of a city? Would Appleton (pop: 74,139), Green Bay (pop: 104,777), or Milwaukee (pop: 594,548) have something like you described?
@@whitehusky3 any time I’d ask about where they are or how to find them my dad would always say “well i could tell you… but then I’d have to kill you. “ and I just accepted that. Lol. So I couldn’t help you. But would love to hear from anyone who does know of anything like that.
Valid point indeed
Give us an example to see an indication of an entrance on google maps in some city?
I don't believe this is the cave that Kenny was looking for. This is easy to spot and Kenny who was familiar with the area wouldn't have missed it. Thank you for going out there and exploring the cave, but just watching your video, I feel like there is something SUPER WRONG there ... that is, the scratch marks you pointed out as "Hatch" which actually means a door or "a covering for an opening area". I don't know why, but I feel like there's something hidden that needs to be discovered ... Otherwise, it is so random to find a cave that looks like M with some random lettering, hinting "a door".
bruh
it almost feels purposeful, like someones playing chess with all of us and we dont know it yet
Its the door to exit the simulation we are in!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I mean ... it could be a hidden entrence or emergency exit to that base he was talking about ... and im not at all surprised ... a perfectly hidden exit for the personell if shit went wrong ... and just scratched out word hatch just to inform those who know that this is the place ... so yea... wouldnt be surprised if there is like a hidden cam somewhere and someone is just lookin at that dude
Says hatch they say... I say it looks like the map of that area 51... idk I'm guessing
Don’t ever fuck with caves alone lots of shit goes there worldwide and i’m not joking
Those systems big as fuck.
What do you mean “goes there”?
Once i found bunch of dolls in one small cave in a forest. Creepy stuff, the torso without a head
@@yelrahkcorb snakebitmgee went to this cave and was never found
@@cheeseninjad we dont know that, he left his phone behind. He had no camera so he didnt want to film it, his girlfiend wrote under his video that he most likely took his own life beacuse of qutting work, depression and other problems that led him to not wanting to be found
That airflow coming through that hole is a dead giveaway. That means that there has to be an entrance to an open area along that wall.. You did the smart thing by leaving though.
That's not even the M cave Брат!
@@Andrei_Antonovso you have found it? share video footage then
@@Andrei_Antonov where is it then smart guy
nope. caves will have venting areas and most all caves have wind like that.
The scary bit about this is that this is the first bit of information that we have got on kenny and the M cave in nearly a decade
When this man looked into a crack and felt the airflow his entire tone changed
I thought that was very interesting.
@@icantthinkofaname15 7:42
He was already about to haul ass outta there though, so Brenbobert's comment seems to overstate the case a little.
@@Vingul True but I also noticed his tone of voice change when he said "I feel like I've overstayed my welcome" at the end there, at the very least that airflow gave him a chill down the spine...
@@Vingul no he isn't. Even though he was heading out, his whole attitude changed. His voice cracked and he was scared af.
LOL....I have been in caves where there is air coming through cracks...it's pretty natural.
bro the portal is closed during the day it only opens at night, come back at night and you will be amazed by what you will see
lol
@@ONSLAUGHTfps I don’t understand what does he mean??
@@inferno3080 hes joking.
I am not suggesting that you should go back, but it would be very exciting if it was investigated by a team of people, you know so no one else dies, because it certainly looks like it’s blocked off with concrete or something.
Be careful, we don't want you getting 'lost' like Kenny.
HE WENT MISSING
Interesting how you started feeling uncomfortable about being there. I don't know how far this is from the boundary of Area 51, but the Area 51 sign was probably taken from somewhere else and brought there. It looks like somebody was working on building a little fire pit and had brought up the wood. The dowel with the reduced diameter on the ends looks like a chair rung. If you felt some cold air coming from some of the cracks I would tend to think that this could have been a mine entrance that had been back filled or collapsed. No idea if this is the same "M" cave that Kenny referred to in his video, but it was an interesting exploration anyway.
I dunno, him feeling uncomfortable seems like a self fulfilling prophecy to me. Due to the caves supposed backstory and him putting the ide he should be uncomfortable in his head by saying he didn't feel anything.
It'd be interesting to bring somebody who hasn't heard the story out there and see if they feel the same naturally.
@@The-Okami-Project - exactly!! Well said.
Why would anyone bring a bunch of "firewood" (perfectly fine building wood) to some remote place and then not make a fire with it at all (nothing burned)?
@@whuzzzup For something to lie on?
I saw what you said about starting a fire. I think he probably was doing an average hike but then was killed by government or causes.
Kenny Veach’s body is behind the rocks, The real entrance to the M cave was sealed up which is why there’s air coming out from the cracks
I'd go back with a metal detector and shovel. Also I would have taken that area 51 sign.
My thoughts exactly.
Would have definitely taken the sign.
@@Vingul Might end up being a bad idea tho. I find that sign to be one of the most sus things about that cave. Obviously someone brought it from another area, it shouldn't be in that area. So who took that sign there, HOW did they manage to get the sign w/o being shot, and WHY did they leave it in that cave after going thru the bother of obtaining it? It wasn't hanging up, just left there... As if they're trying not to make the cave itself look like the restricted area, but left the sign as a hint to anyone that came there, just remember you're mortal and turn right back around...
6:22 sees area 51 sign and he seems scared right there and then 7:50 airflow through the cracks "WELL I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE. I THINK I OVER STAYED MY WELCOME" and there he goes. Those rocks seems really suspicious. It really feels like there was an opening there.
Wdym by openings
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@@vnkdabaz3513 he means a false seal..like someone made it appear to be natural..unfortunately I don't think he "dissapeared" due to an accident or stumbling upon something he shouldn't of. He was battling depression for a while and I believe he may have taken his own life somewhere far out there deep in a crevasse or a cave so nobody would or could find him.
He also seems to be breathing heavier during his stay… strange…
@@hoodycoo4391 nah if someone is a little scared the heart rate and breathing will change.
That area 51 sign was in interesting find.
I'd take that home
@@yuripessoa5336 definitely
Conveniente, para montar um enredo que vinculasse ao desaparecimento.
@@yuripessoa5336
Yeah I'll bet it's not there now! ;-)
That’s junk from a souvenir shop, some teenagers probably left it there
Given the mysterious circumstances around it, I wouldn’t go there at all
Someone actually warned him from going in there and later he went missing in the same area. You’re brave.
I wish you could do more searching and digging around in that little M cave. I have a feeling there was more than meets the eye. Just don't disappear on us if you see an alien.
There was a video of a guy who was headed to area 51 and near the entrance he came across two old ladies who definitely did not look human at all, they looked like characters straight out of courage the cowardly dog, the video is nowhere to be found now because I tried to find it and no luck.
@@cosmicsoul8042 update me if u find it
@@cosmicsoul8042 bro now im curious pls send the link if u have found it, thanks in advance
@@cosmicsoul8042 omg, I remember watching that video. I can't find it either. We need more people looking for it
I FOUND THE VIDEO ua-cam.com/video/f_Nt0jgGNek/v-deo.html
Only one thing you need to remember, Kenny said the cave was narrow... this cave entrance is wide
He had to get down on his belly to crawl out
"Hatch" pointed to a handle. Dig a little there. And that wall moves.
NVM, restricted area. Disregard
Resembles a Native American shelter and/or later used by miners. The natives often built that type of low wall for shelter and defensive purposes.
@@nefariumxxx It also reflects back heat from a fire which would otherwise dissipate.
@@nicholasholloway8743 yeah, I always hate when I see people say the government "tried" to hide something it is very rare if not entirely impossible for the government to fail at hiding something, the only reason we know 99.9% of the shit they do/did is because they let us know. The truth is if the government wanted to hide this cave they would've done a lot better job 😂
@@killerbug05 unless they sent a few PFCs and a super laidback Specialist to do the work. That would explain a half-assed cover up job.
My theory is that Kenny felt electromagnetic current from inside the cave being the reason he was feeling dreadful and when he left the rocks have probably fell blocking the cave's entrance and when Kenny was looking for it again he couldn't find it and got lost trapped within the perimeters of Area 51
also about the sign the sign was probably hand put in there to prevent people from coming in but since the rocks fell it knocked over the sign, for the wood and the nail in the rock I have no idea, but for the airflow it seems like the rocks you defined as " Suspicious " were hollow and the flow of air passes through what evers inside it. That's my theory.
You should have shook the camera at the end and turned it off like you were abducted.
and then have buddy Don upload the video.
that wouldnt work
human stupidity, it wont work
Plz dont start making yt vids because theres enough fake prank/fake video douche nozzles out there already
I found a bunker type entrance on the side Kennesaw Mountain GA a few years back. I'm the type that wanders off the trails and I noticed a 90° angle through the woods one day while exploring. It was supper sketch. There was a blast door in the front that looked welded shut from the inside, and there was also a metal trap door on the top side. I could lift the door maybe a couple inches only to find that it was chained with a padlock on the inside. I've always wanted to go back back with a portable plasma cutter. My theory is that it connects to Dobbins AFB with isn't that far away. Considering it was closed and sealed from the inside only, leads me to believe there are other ways to get in. Who wants to go check it out with me? Still remember the exact location...
Huuum tempting
Could you say the location? That way anyone else who can go there can take a look, maybe get some footage
@@hohsmith4723 record a video of it
I'm in Florida I'll go no fear in me
@@hohsmith4723 have you able to locate or visit it?
i think you actually found it nice going keep doing your thing man👍
Someone or something definitely Broke the Cave's entrance And Kenny got Himself Trapped with no food or Water I think thats how he was missing
Maybe
Very nicely done. Looks like an old mine entrance that has been back filled to keep people from going in the mine. If one feels uneasy in a mine or a cave, it's time to retreat and get out. But yet I heard wind coming from the cracks in the rocks.
Bro what. Its wind from the outside if its a door or trapdoor you wouldnt hear air but to test the theory just bring dynamite
@@chriswillis8069 that’s what I’m saying bro please check the link, there’s defo something there for sure.
@@chriswillis8069 but it's an area 51 base tho isnt it weird that Kenny found a cave right next to area 51 and got the weirdest feeling tried to go back to document it and just disappeared? That's not a coincidence and I believe that the government is hiding something and kenny found it and they killed him
@@ipeed found it?
@@ipeed that weird feeling he spoke about is extremely similar to that of an Active Denial System which is a non lethal defense used by the military to deter people from restricted areas. It makes you feel super hot and uncomfortable from a distance
I would have kept the sign. Very cool piece for a man cave.
Looks like a very intriguing place. Thanks for sharing with us! I will say though, Kenny had stated the M Cave was very deep, and this cave is shallow. Still a very interesting spot!
There it is ! Cool find !
Stuff in the desert can creep you out even if it’s normal !!
We found a cave in Death Valley and someone was living in it !
A lot and I mean A LOT of people are living in caves in the desert around Vegas!! I don't go 4 wheeling alone anymore because of it. I had more than a couple of instances where I encountered people when I thought I was alone; especially near Lake Mead.
Share this story with details please lol.
@@TheDamageinc81
On the dirt road out to Skidoo, pretty early in the drive there was an old rusted car on the right and a mine with a big opening and an open stope a ways in . . In the big room there was a table and 2 chairs, a breakfast cereal bowl recently used, half a bottle of wine and some canned food.
We skedaddled on our way to Skidoo after that !
@@shereesheree7735 So were those people hostile towards you?
@@whuzzzup - I wouldn't call it hostile but I definitely stumbled into areas where I shouldn't have been alone & female. I talked my way out of there or I never stopped to chit chat with anyone.....I just drove on. I only encountered 2 women total on my travels and they were with other men out there. Regardless, to find anyone living out in the desert is quite surreal.
The fact that Kenny himself said that he felt 'vibration'or overall uncomfortable, means that since he was near Area 51 He might have gone near a highly classified area. They use these machines to deny entry of such unemployed people to swat them off. (Vibration, heat ect.) This here is not the real cave. Seems that it may be a fake, or uninhabited. When you are talking about the government, these people are smart- and they will do whatever it takes to cover themselves.... Even if it means termination.
This is my favorite mystery I would love to solve. I hope there's a chance Kenny made it he was such a kind soul and to find out the truth would make myself and many other happy to just know why and what happened.
His girlfriend said she's pretty confident he committed suicide, he had lost his job, was diagnosed with depression and refused to take his meds. She also claims his video camera was still in his place, so he went out there with no intentions of filming.
@@Happyburn I wouldnt trust the gf to have any info.
I seen a docu on this tonight and the g/f said she and Kenny went to see the movie "Birdman" the night before he set out on that last hike. I also think he committed suicide as his father before him. Although the daughter doesn't think he would take his own life.
@@randalthor6872 Seconded to this
I really think either they filled the cave and that’s why you can’t go any further in cause Kenny said he was able to stand inside meaning the cave had to have been at least 8ft tall for him to go in with out crouching cause I doubt anyone would go into a cave that looks like you can’t come back out or looks like a tight squeez
I think that spot that the editor outilened in red was actually the opened part and the government closed it up…. Please recognize this so people can realize that this could be what happened
Hi Frank. Kenny described in his video that upon entering this particular cave, he felt an overwhelming vibration which spooked him so much he turned around and left. I wouldn't doubt that because of this vibration, it had, no doubt strings to Area 51. And, because of its discovery by Kenny, I believe this location was then filled so no longer can it be investigated by anyone else. Is Kenny Veach behind that makeshift wall, no one knows.
I love your channel and explorations that gave me a new interest for caves and abandoned mines. One mine in particular actually scared the daylights out of me. I can't remember the actual name of it, however, it's the cave where you heard what you thought was "Snakes" but it was actually "chanting like whispering." Being there I realize is far more different than watching a video!! You then realized as well, I guess while editing, that the chanting is what you thought were"Snakes!!" That video is one on my favorite list in your collection of explorations!
As always Frank, first and foremost, please remain Safe and Healthy my brother. NYC loves you!🤟
P. S. That DEFINITELY says "HATCH" and IS DELIBERATELY scratched there!
and you know this because you can see it so easily? lol
@@timbodnar6711 why do you have to be an ass? Why can't you just leave one to their opinion??
People like you fkn Suck and aren't happy unless they say shitty things to people.
How sad are you.
I agree. That clearly says Hatch. Something is up , no question. Frank wasn't staying long enough to find out!
Amazing! I just started researching this again like 20 minutes ago and you uploaded like ten ago!
Lol, “doesn’t seem to be anything here”
Sits down
“Area 51 - well, time to go”
@@dabidibup didn't even push the dirt away to see the floor. Also the hatch could've been under the pile of rocks with metal sign and didn't even look closer
@@ChannelNotFound that’s what I was thinking too…I’m not a cave explorer but I have ventured into some at Mathieson State Park and explored the rock more closely than this video. 🤷🏻♀️ Hard to say not being the one inside it looking but just seemed sort of like “found an M” nothing inside but pcs of wooden planks🤔🤷🏻♀️😊
The M cave was completely walled off and sealed by someone
I think it’s absolutely heartwarming that people are still trying to help find Kenny! It gives me some hope in humanity
The pieces of wood that was there was by the mine that Kenny was at in his last video. It led down to a deep underground bunker it looked like. It’s still very eerie.. this entire situation still gives me the shivers as to what happened 🥺
It just led down to a mine not bunker
Guys it’s obvious he committed suicide.. 🙁
@@xHuman-x_x But where did the body go?
@@Andrei_Antonov i dunno, and it’s sad to say that most likely nobody will ever know. But my speculations are that either his body is just out in the middle of the desert, in a hidden area, and just not found yet.
If you notice in the cave you can see where the rock and the cement separates someone put cement there to block off it off you can also see how dirt was thrown all over it to make it look natural
They probably did that right after kenny went back the 2nd time
Fun fact, I moved to Vegas when I was 19 (Back in 99), got a job cleaning bus's that would transport workers out to Area 51. And every single day, probably 1 out of 5 buses would come back with a seat covered in vomit. And no, these were not party buses, and no the vomit did not smell like someone had been drinking. I always found that weird as hell.
Radiation poisoning from working with exotic technologies, effects of having grey alien as co-workers, etc, etc ,etc.
Did it look normal ?
@@MentalExistence I dont really remember. I didnt even remember posting this comment. LOL
@@seananon4893 wake up
@@seananon4893 bruhhh. U made it up?
I can't believe I've never heard this story before till now, wow this is crazy man. It looks like the entrance to the cave was deliberately closed off and covered up to look like there was never any entrance there.. but we know that there was if this was really the M Cave. Sad to think of what might've happened to Kenny..
Sry but if our military doesn’t want you to find it... you won’t. Still very interesting! And if you do start finding stuff... be very careful with what you post. Much Respect man🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I would recommend to go there with a really big crew and record all that and go in there with weapons. That is the best you can do.
So you think this is the 19 century where weapons would save you. The military would kill you without you seeing them probably
That’s suicide if they actually get into area 51
Holy hell, the way his tone immediately changed and he FO'd from the cave after finding the sign. That's a "This is actually real and I need to leave NOW" type of dread. Terrifying
i remember this story, i heard it years ago and it was so interesting, i didn’t know if anyone else found the infamous m cave, but the fact that you found what was most likely the m cave is really cool 😎
I saw a video on tiktok, of kenny recording the cave entrance, it was shaped like the letter M and much smaller entrance, and he was talking about going back there another time, so I don’t think it is this cave
Nevermind because he said it was shaped like a giantic M and the one in the video wasn’t big, it was probably another youtuber who thought he found that cave or maybe him thinking how he found it again but he didnt
@@MAD-kh2oy kenny found something he wasnt supposed to. That's the reason he kept going back he knew something was there. When he found what he wanted to find the government killed him and covered up the original "M cave" and made this replica to throw anyone looking for kenny, off their trail. Theres a lot more at play and I have such a hard time believing that the military isnt at play
@@ipeed or ya know, he died
Life is futile and sometimes the most probably explanation is the correct one. However, this is creepy af!!
Kenny called it a cave, that’s like too small to be a cave, so I think they are hiding something and covered it up, he noticed some airflow which is interesting and that wall does seem suspicious, I wish some people would sneak down there and mine through that wall. I know it seems crazy but the military could of killed him for what he saw idk pretty crazy stuff
With the Kenny disappearance happening a few years ago, they may have found the cave (but not his body) and closed the cave for safety reasons.
To clarify, the safety reasons being people exploring it in search of Kenny.
5:56 there was a small piece of wood under the dirt at the very bottom of the screen. That could either be a hatch or just another piece of wood.
Does look buried. Interesting.
The fact there was air returning from the crack means that cave isn't as shallow as it seemed. Somewhere there is a shift running through. Maybe walled off or maybe at some other point in the area. Love videos like these. Exploration of the unknown is extremely fascinating! Subscribing!
That small wall around the entrance/opening of the cave was probably built as a fire reflector. (It gets quite cold in the desert at night) This looks like a shelter used by trappers or prospectors in the late 1800's. Based off the old wood and the style of nails, I'd say this was long term camping shelter for someone. I dont see much of anything to be suspicious about.
Excellent analysis! Thank you for thinking calmly!
Spot on
Oh they name Area 51 for that long term camping shelter?🥲
@@todddanforth8853 my guess is kenny fell in an abandoned mine, it's quite common i hear. 2nd theory: injured and sucumed to exposure.
People really try to justify a hidden entrance to some kind of secret facility anywhere in the DESERT. Whatever they are smoking or snorting they need to stop.
Thank you for your rational analyses.
At 5:56 when you go for the piece of metal, you can clearly see wood “in” “under” the dirt at the bottom of the screen. Did you try to dig and see if you were sitting on top of the hatch?
Yooooo what the fuck he's right
Welll Kaidermedia don’t go around telling people now
It's true! And also, when he drops the glass bottle seconds before, it sounds hollow. Not the way it would sound if it was only dirt.
@A M if you look super close, at that exact time under the loose dirt u can see different wood inside the ground, just like the corner of a 2x4 but strangely it looks like it could be a hatch😳😳
yes there is a door or inside in this moment i do realise that too and the word is to any one come there to try find the truth and dig that point to find what theye shouldnt fond
I've been to dozens of military and government installations and there's never ever a secret hatch that's unguarded and just randomly situated where people can find it, outside controlled corridors. These facilities are contained and within layers of highly secured areas...
I figured as much as well. I don't believe any of the conspiracies. What needs to be secured or hidden the military probably secured just through normal means.
You never know, the government can be weird like that
I mean it's already weird to find the Area51 sign like he did
@@thetacoguyy Tell you what- you find an unguarded secret hatch outside the secure perimeters that leads to a secret base and I'll buy you a flock of awesome unicorns. Deal?
I agree
This guy did indeed find it. His senses started to go off when he felt that airflow, that’s the moment all doubt that nothing was there went away. He in a instant said “I need to go I’ve overstayed my welcome”
Nice work! Here's a few things to consider...The wood is quite old, so whatever it was used for happened a fair time back. Someone went to a good bit of effort to haul it up there, so the project was somewhat important. Many of the pieces of wood are short and have peculiar ends, suggesting they may have been used as rungs on a ladder (either rope or wooden). Alternatively, the wood may have been used to close off the entrance to the cave (perhaps by a prospector or hunter) making a fairly good shelter. There may be a mine shaft in the floor of the cave that was filled in with rubble and dirt. The back wall of the cave is pretty interesting, especially the circular area you pointed out. Not only does the circular feature stand out, but the rock appears to possibly be unnatural in that it may be constructed of small rocks joined with some type of mortar and camouflaged with smoke residue from a fire. The hole in the ceiling of the cave at 3:12 and 6:35 that has bat guano around the opening is also interesting and suggests there may be a larger cave within. Sure wish you had brought along a pick and shovel...
Imagine being caught driving a pick against the rock of this cave with a shovel leaning against it by a black SUV.... "hey, what you doing there buddy?........"
@Steel Steez. OMG!!😂
What a nightmare!
Could be flood debris
@@steelsteez6118
Hahahaha with 4 guys dressed like men in black 😳
My theory on what happened to kenny: He wasnt trying to film the inside of the cave (his camera gear was at home when he was missing) but instead he was trying to find out what was in the cave as he must have knew that there was something in it. The military in area 51 found this out and killed him, completely removing his ID and any existance of him
I also think it was attached to area 51 and that what kenny felt when he was near it was something that area 51 has been using. I think kenny writ hatch when he was looking around too. Then once they removed his ID, they tried to cover the cave off. Where the hatch is u may ask? It is behind the back wall or the back of the floor cuz u can see where it has been covered off by rock and dirt.
I also read another theory where there was rat droppings where he sat down and that is where a deep space usaly is (the cave). But again this cave can be a whole setup and the cave was a dead end but a smart trick by area 51. They could have covered the back wall in weak concrete and put rat droppings just so that people would try and look there. But it could be that one at the same time. Maybe look for weak rocks in a mountain and if you cant find any then that is ur spot. when digging it out (if its that cave or the other one) try not to stay there for long periods of time and maybe study the guard movement. Then, make a schedual on what time u will be there. Dig it out with a few people too so it is quicker and u will probably need something to remove what material that is on the back wall. And that is where i end for now. Good day
Yah, we'll never see him again.
@@lynettedundon1410 hope see you never again you care about your selth
@@ytsposter. first of all you can't spell and second of all he is saying that we will probably never see Kenny again so idk how he just cares about himself get your facts right
Yeah! That's the cave that shows in Kenny's famous video. I always pointed that out, while filming, he pass by the M cave without even knowing it was there.
Walling off shallow caves is a common practice for making a shelter. You see these a lot in the highland and lowland deserts in the southwest. Some sites still found today have been known to date all the way back to the era of westward expansion.
A fire is made at one side of the cave opening, and the stacked rocks block off the remainder. The fire and rock wall provides a barrier against predators, and helps to hold the heat in. The rocks are only stacked up a couple feet, leaving room for flue ventilation.
You should’ve investigated the M cave more. You might’ve been able to find a hatch if you were lucky.
wonder what happened the last time someone explored the m cave
@@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergonnal Kenny Veachnever came out
@@canongnome when, has he been found yet?
@@ohyea2k he hasn't been found not that I know of
if he found a hatch we would have never seen this video. even if he got out fine and uploaded it the video wouldve been removed immediately and he wouldve been arrested afterwards
when you first sat down and can see your boots there are a load of rat droppings collected into a small area. a rat, being a prey animal would not nest in such a shallow cave, deeper into a mineshaft yes, but not somewhere that dead ends like that. suggests to me that weak concrete / plaster at the back has been put there recently and a collection of brought from elsewhere items left behind to make it appear like it is natural and long since anyone was there. may i suggest a hand drill, microphone and small rock hammer if you go to stay there overnight you can record audio and test if it is hollow. if you gather any interesting data i will travel to nevada and dig the bastard out. they can't kill me ha
i'm with this guy man! i support this kinda shit. link me up i'll help too!
I agree. It looks a lot like concrete formed to have a look like old stones. You should hammer it with a small hammer to hear the difference to stone walls. There will be a clear different noise to it.
You deduced all that from rat shit?
Let’s go I’m down
@@JohnCompton1 lmao now thats what i call an expert
Bro this guy better not go “missing”.
@🌿POPULATION-_-420☁ if this guy goes missing like the guy who found the cave did something is up.
If you look on the unreleased footage of him stood at his car speaking to camera, he is holding a bottle of beer, which looks just like the bottle that was found in this cave!
Definitely M shaped but hardly seems interesting enough for Veach to want to explore you can see the whole cave from outside it
do you know who snakebitmcgee is
Hmm....seems logical and it is a corner too so he bar ly can notice it
And to this day, that is still extremely suspicious. They don't do a very good job at covering up their tracks
Everytime he said, "Okay, I have gotta get outta here." I thought a soldier will come up and take him to the military base. Just like a random games starting scene.
That cave is too short, he said it was as tall as he was, so u could walk in, not have to crawl in.
The county sheriff might have closed that cave with explosives (they often do) probably upon request from someone who wanted no further exploration. The area 51 sign that you dug out is a pretty good indication that the someone was a security officer from NTS. Find an old retired miner to look the site over for a little expertise on closings.
Remember Kenny said that he had received a phone message from an unknown source warning him off of the place but my gut tell's that what you found is not the right cave. Thank you for inviting us along and sharing your experiences.
Oh really? When did he say that? There's no such thing in his video?!
@@genesis_cr the very first time that I ever saw the original video, (not this one), Kenny talked about the phone call. If you're really interested go do a search & find his COMPLETE video.
Good luck-
@@kilimanjaro5292 it was a comment not a phone call
It was a comment by lemi on UA-cam telling him not to go in the cave
Yeah the wall looks like a hole was plugged. I was thinking that it was previously open and maybe that wood that’s in the cave was across the entrance before they sealed it up. Definitely looks they were going to wall it off. Something is strange. I can’t imagine what happened to that poor man.
But people are still proving you can get in?
The reason you wall off caves and pits is to keep livestock from falling in.
In kenny’s video at 15:29 he says the M cave is “deep and dark.” I don’t think this is the cave he referenced.
Who knows... 2:10 that does looks suspicious. I mean it felt like there was an opening there once but was sealed off later.
if there’s an airflow there’s an entrance
Let's all remember when in his last video kenny said "I'm going to enjoy this beer". Unlabeled still looks like a beer bottle. Kenny made it to that cave. Just where did he go from there
That makes since. He said beer (assuming 1 since on a hike) and that could be a craft beer bottle
FREE MASON😊
Good video man! Be careful though, the M cave may just be a conspiracy theory, but I don’t wanna take the chance of it being real.
That wooden dowel was 100% for a ladder. If that was once an entrance, one could only assume there was a ladder that you used to go down to a transport tunnel of some sort that would lead you inside area 51. This isn't the only entrance that's out there, I'm sure.
Interesting search for the M cave, Frank. Too bad the nail you pulled out didn't open the secret entrance to the basement of Area 51.
The basement where they keep the alien childs
It leads to the basement of the Alamo.
@@some1iguess I cant-
Good find, Frank. But from what I've heard/read about Kenny Veach, almost anything would have made him vibrate. I think he was either a suicide, or there's a skeleton in the bottom of a vertical shaft someplace. It was well-known he would go out with minimum provisions, including water. Your thoughts?
I don’t know much about Kenny Veach, but I agree - he’s at the bottom of a shaft somewhere.
@@ted__ryan Yes, and the ultimate depression is a vertical mine shaft.
His girlfriend said he was in a really bad way for the last year of his life so my theory is government conspiracy. American Dad gottim.
@Mel Francis I heard that he had a wooden spoon that he carved from a larger wooden spoon.
@@W7DSY lol
He felt them chills Kenny felt once he noticed that air
Thank you so much for taking the time to explore this for all of us. I only found this from another related video of people gone missing, hearing about Kenny I looked it up and found this. Not quite sure if scratch marks say anything. Cave look like an entrance that's all and ends soon as you enter. People have said to "Kenny" not to go in the "M" Cave! You will never come back out. So, I think it's not the right one being so short, I didn't see any signs of a covered door or hatchway.
Logically how would this be the same cave? Kenny said in his video he went back to get his gun so he he could explore it and protect himself from potential danger. This cave you don’t even need to step inside to see the whole thing… no one would need protection in the form of a firearm for this.
or thats not the whole cave nd they blocked it off there cuz those cracks dont look natural
@@yagamixo8889 Yes they do lmao
@@gg-gn3re shut up
@@gg-gn3re u work for the government do u
@@yagamixo8889 you don't look natural
Old Sheahan family mine claim. Silver chloride and lead, probably low yielding and filled in. The right side of the M seen from far away is the crack where natural air and gases seep out, what you observed at the end (air flow) and your body telling you there was a change in oxygen level in that area (dread/flight instinct). Walled up but periodically used by wanderers and explorers. Digging down and back at 35 degrees you’d probably come across the original shaft. My best guess at a glance. That whole giant rock shooting up would have fissures once you get in it.
I just found this, and it is honestly scary about all the ways Kenny could have went missing. Especially the parts where he found the area 51 sign, the scratch marks, the wood pieces, and the bottle. The fact that the cave has tried to cover up is even more mysterious.
Here is my theory:
I feel like when Kenny Veach was inside, something had trapped him in, which is probably the cave. Remember when Kenny said that he had felt Vibration? Well, what if the scratches on the cave was him trying to write a message for the other people to look more deep into this place. And the vibration probably led him to a different place (If Kenny found the place again). And the bottle is probably from him, because maybe he was trying to explore this cave again, so I think he came prepared.
I also feel like someone was trying to trap him inside, which is probably why there is all sorts of wood pieces.
But yeah, this is my theory.
I am really interested in this , so if you guys know more about this, it would really help me out, since I just learned about this today.
Thank you for your time!
Remember he wanted that Cold beer
ua-cam.com/video/UThQqvEquAY/v-deo.html 44:47 this just shows there’s something going on inside the caves. Please people go to the time stamp and listen to it. You going to need some tnt to blow that up.Something just don’t sit right with me on this one.
@@deborahwallace9801 Omg yes! I will try to add on to my theory. Thank you so much for reminding me!
@@cowpoke2133 Thank you for sharing this with me, I will try to add on to my theory!
Yes i do think kenny was the one who wrote "hatch" on the rock
Imagine getting lost out there because you were in an accident. You wonder around, it’s hot, you find this cave and rest there for shelter…. So crazy!
Kind of surprised you didn’t snag that sign like most guys probably would including myself even if I had to do it off camera that thing is going up in the man cave 🤣
haha i probably would have too. Im pretty sure it was a fake sign though because the military never refers to the base as area 51. Usually groom lake or nellis air force range. I feel like they wouldnt put up a sign referring to it as area 51 in front of a cave. I could be totally wrong though