I run a casual team for people in my Fc. When my main team has completed the tier and there’s a patch lul I take people who are new to FF or new to raiding or simply wouldn’t normally have set foot into savage due to anxiety or fear of not performing well enough and coach them. Build their confidence
I’m new to FF, I really want to raid at a higher level, but yeah, not sure it’s worth it. I don’t mind a raid schedule but I don’t want it to be "ok, so farming consumables will take 6 hours a day, farming gold for repairs will take 6 hours a day, and you will raid for 12 hours a day."
@@alaskaimage395 the thing about raiding is there’s different levels of raiding. Some people raid crazy hardcore. Some raid equally as often but PF only. Some enjoy a more casual relaxed team that raids less. This particular team I do goes once a week for a couple of hours on a weekend and it’s aimed literally for those who wouldn’t normally set foot in raid. My advice to you is to join the ERC (European raid centre) or the US equivalent if there is one if you’re from across the pond. Put an ad on there for what you’re seeking. Try setting up some runs with some FC friends too. Create the environment you want to raid in. It’s easy finding 8 good players, it’s hard finding 7 other people you want to spend time with weekly that aren’t dicks
@@alaskaimage395 I don't know if that's the preparation expectation you have got from WoW or other MMOs, but in FF raid prep is amazingly simple. All you really need is the money you got from doing the story and your daily roulettes getting to endgame. Here, unless you spend big on housing or glamor, gold is quite easy to come by. You would get your repair cost settled easily just doing some daily roulettes. From the marketboard, buy one type of food (30min buff duration each) and one type of stat buff potion (1-2 used per raid encounter), and maybe some materia to slot into the gear you got from the Normal version of the raids. After that you are all set to start raiding. 12 hours a day is insane for anyone not racing to get world first. My group's schedule was just a couple of days a week for 2 hours each day after work. We were by no means fast, but just taking our time to learn the fights as a group we did eventually clear the last 2 tiers of Shadowbringer's Savage raids.
Bro what server and FC are you in, I need this 😂 Trying to work up towards getting the TEA weapon, it was my main goal before I even started playing XIV. But this sorta stuff is so far away from anything I know, and have no idea how to approach harder content let alone getting a group for it. I haven't hardly ventured at all out of MSQ content 😅
Most of my raiding anxiety comes from past experiences with toxic people. I feel very Confident with my main jobs (BLM and SMN) but I'm just afraid of running into toxic idiots. If not for them, I would have been into endgame raids ages ago. Thanks for the video, this will definately help me get over my fears.
Don't judge people for someone else's actions. Stick to this mindset and be more confident in your presence and integrity and no toxic idiot will ever ruin your fun.
The best advice I could give....fuck'em. If you're doing what you believe to be your best effort then just let it go in one ear and out the other. Better yet, abandon that toxicity immediately and find another group
look for "practice from start" raids with the sprout marker. That means, whoever started that raid, specifically marked it to be "ok for absolute beginners to come". Usually those people wont be toxic at all. They are people who genuinely want to help and/or dont mind total beginners.
Or terrible people that doesn't know what to do. ;( Just had a terrible group in the tower nier raid couldnt keep Hansel and Gretel separate and people just kept on dying not dpsing enough because of it. ;(
This video is right on time. I overcame my tanking and healing anxiety on my own. Extreme and savage anxiety is whole other beast. Thanks for the much needed confidence boost.
My issue with raiding isn't the stress, I enjoy it, it's the teammates that quit after a few wipes because they can't handle it. It's not an issue early on in a patch, but the further down the weeks you go, the harder it is to get into learning parties. Everyone goes with the expectations of clearing but don't understand that it's all about wiping many times and learning.
Yeah, from some videos I watched and my own experience. Western raider: abandon after 2-3 wipes. Japanese raiders: Bash the flippin bosses skull in multiple times regardless of deaths until everyone gets the clear they need. Probably why jp raid clears are so much higher than ours (besides the point of ffxiv being the only popular mmo there)
1000% this. I mean there is definitely fights that feel like a dps race, T7 for example and like some of the trials, Ramuh and Garuda being 2 that come to mind. But overall the game is highly designed to just focus on mechanics. Even the jobs are designed so. I know that BRDs are completely different then they were in ARR but literally we ran 2 BRDs solely for buff machines back in the twintania and SCoB days.. we weren't worried about dps and rightfully so until we got closer to FCoB. I mean there's a huge reason meters are controversial and not intended to be in the game. My only advice for new players going into this, especially from games like WoW or even other mmos, that have alot of fights designed around DPS races and how fast you can actually kill the boss, is just enjoy the game, communicate that you are a newer player and I promise if you don't get a complete explanation of the fight nor the patience that 90% of the players in 14 have, you probably aren't in the right group.. just enjoy the game, learn as much as you can! And you'll you'll just fine :)
I'm most afraid to get into savage content because I hold myself to an extremely high standard and upon messing up mechanics, I would become frustrated with myself. I would think I'm pulling the group down. If I can't keep myself alive through mechanics, how can my group rely on me to keep them alive when needed?
trust me, you can play as perfect as you want, at some point you or someone else will do a lethal mistake.......thats absolutely normal and happens more often than you might think. were all human after all ^^ mistakes happen and no ones getting mad (if youre not doing the same mistakes 100 times in a row) in my Static for example we have days where we grind the hell out of a fight pixelperfect and the next day we constantly wipe 3 hours in a row on the same fight due to small mistakes here and there.....thats totally normal ;)
@@maciiiiiiiiiii That example of your static is literally how it went with my static in the 2nd Eden tier. Especially Ramuh, for some reason we kept fucking up some mechanics and right after is fury fourteen, so yeah, get wiped. it's amazing how easy the fight is but then you wipe literally an entire raid session and barely get any prog done on the other fights. My main issue is what Abyssal said, he holds himself to an extremely high standard, I feel that honestly, especially once you master your rotation and know the entire fight, i'm not gonna wipe my static if I do for example but it becomes extremely hard for me to actually care about that pull. I main PLD and am a pretty good 1 honestly, (generally an purple parser) but fuck me is it impossible to care about a pull once i've made an mistake or just outright die (especially when not getting healed enough, let alone when Spirits Within comes off cooldown and i'm at 20% HP, WHY YOSHI, WHY IS PLD NOT AN OFF TANK WHEN YOU GIVE US AN ATTACK THAT LITERALLY BECOMES WEAKER THE MORE DAMAGE WE TAKE!?"
I think one of the best ways to get into savage raiding is to begin with people you know well, this tier was my first and I really enjoyed every second of it.
Des, you're such a good Lad :D I've found myself not wanting to raid anymore, not because of any of the reason's sighted here but because beyond the story completion aspect of say Bozja and Normal Eden I found myself gratified by that as much as l used to be by clearing high end raids back in the day. The only Extreme trial I did for the entirety of Shadowbringers was Memoria Misera, great fun, awesome time but that was for the AF4 armor and glamour the challenge was nice but ultimately not why I was there. I have a huge respect for people who raid and seek that challenge but such organised fighting isn't always feasible as we get older and work and family take there normal places for a lot of people. Kudos on a great Video \\//
As a newcomer I have found the most important thing is just, be willing to learn and be around people who are willing to teach. You can join practice parties or better yet join raiding discords, or even find people in your FC willing to help you. Nobody goes into a extreme or savage knowing the fight, you must learn before you clear. And even after you clear there's always more to learn, both about the fight and your job. Don't expect to ace it right away and avoid people who expect that.
Back then i was very scared of doing EX content let alone savage, but now i'm progging for E12S! You just have to learn the mechanics and be patient with wiping because without wiping you will not learn! AND REMEMBER RAIDING IS ALL FOR FUN, SO DONT STRESS YOURSELVES and keep hydrated!
Easier on controller I guess, you can effectively type and play at the same time without the risk of accidentally turning the chat and wasting key presses in it
We're not seeing this emphasised here or in the video, so here's our addition: It's okay to wipe. We all wipe. Sometimes a lot. It's okay to not get it every time. Wiping on a fight is a normal part of the process. Party wipes are part of the raiding experience. Sure, if you've completed a fight a bunch of times, and then someone mentally 404s and you all wipe, it can be frustrating, but its also normal. We're not bots. We can't be perfect every time. And we can't be perfect the first time, either. It's okay to fail a fight. Just talk about the mechanics, go over them with the group if need be, and try again. People attempt to prog the fights blind, with no help from guides or anything, so its possible to figure it out. Sometimes it takes time.
Great video. I've been trying to get into the Extreme and Savage raiding, but my anxiety just gets the best of me. About once a month I will try to join a group after watching a video on the harder content. I just have a hard time retaining what I watched. Plus, my main is whm. I love being the support, but knowing I'm the most crucial person on the team really scares me. If I die, they die. Also, people will talk out strategies with abbreviations and words I know nothing about, so even when they explain something I'm still lost. The ONLY reason I attempt the harder content is for the weapons. Thats it. I've been a super casual player since day 1 of FF14. Play all the PVE content until I finish the story and play the new raid, then take a break waiting for the next content to be released. I hope one day I will beat something on Savage. Still haven't to this day.
This is actually a legitimate psychological effect that happens, though admittedly, these effects have only ever been studied in research involving driving and learning to ride a bike. I forget the terminology but there are parts of the brain, upon learning something, that become very active which then take up other parts of the brain. Basically when learning something new, especially something visual and involving parts of the body having to move or interact with something else (keeping in mind driving or riding a bike.), your brain is focusing resources and concentration to make sure you're doing the thing. This of course, when first learning, can affect tiny details like peripheral awareness, maybe you have a list of things to think about to make sure you get it right, bam, resources are going there to make sure you get it right. BUT the more you do this something begins to change. There's a part of the brain that when you reach a point where you do something so often, that you've become so confident in with practice, that the "resources" and "concentration focus" actually becomes less. That doesn't mean you're NOT concentrating on the outside level of performing the task, but on a brain level it actually means that your brain is not allocating these ultra focused resources and in turn is actually FREEING up these resources on a level in which you can now DO MORE. So very much like practicing a job rotation or doing a fight in a game: When you're learning, you may be thinking "Ok, got do these button first, then this skill, then this one, OH SHIT, mechanic RUN, fuck my rotation!" But as you do it more you'll get to the point where you're not thinking about the order, not thinking about what comes next because it just comes naturally now. And now that you can perform at this level your brain is now more free to concentrate and react to mechanics. You performing your rotation has become so engrained (just as someone who learned to ride a bike is not thinking about balance or falling anymore) that you can now expand the amount of things you can keep an eye on. When it comes to a videogame, reaching this point is just satisfying to complete a fight. (as a recreational hobby should be lol). But just like learning to drive, depending on the person you are; when you get that confidence level with practice all said and done, you're obviously not thinking "Oh shit, im gonna hit something!" or "Damn I hate parallel parking!". You'll reach the point where you're just performing these mechanical tasks automatically and without as much fear or stress or worry. (It's different for everyone of course.)
Yeah. Basically this. Id adivse to either a) learn the fight first without concentrating on your rotation or b) learn your rotation until it feels second nature. Which ever you learned first helps you to have an easier time doing the other.
I completely agree with what was said in the video. I first started raiding in Heavensward during the final tier of Alexander. Started in A9S learning parties, practiced my rotation on the "Stone, Sky, Sea" dummies at least once a day for like an hour, got better gear, joined a newly forming static, raided with them for weeks until we finally cleared A11S before the echo was implemented and then A12S after echo was available. This continued into Stormblood where we quickly cleared the first fights of Omega Deltascape and then beat Neo-Exdeath after ~8 weeks of raiding. The video of that is still on UA-cam and hearing the voices of all myself and all my friends cheering after he went down gets me nostalgic. That group broke up after our first clear of God-Kefka though since most of us were burned out a bit. I still raided until the end of Omega Alphascape though and brought Final Omega down with a new group. Morale of the story is that everyone that clears the "big scary final fights of a tier" starts somewhere small. I had tons of self-doubt in the early days but i got better and better. I even got a 99% parse on O5S on the way there. I didn't do any savage or extreme raiding in Shadowbringers, but if i had the time and wanted to i'd now know exactly that i could do it again.
I just found a raid group and we are currently learning Cinder Drift. Communication is key and we all learn from one another. Even me, the monk who knows and is still learning her gear and rotations.
"You don't tell me what to do, Desperius, you don't pay my sub!" :D Just kidding, very encouraging video, part of me want to do high-end stuff, I did in the past, but socializing to do challenges with others and knowing every expansion even simple dungeon gears will outperform hard-grinded current savage gears is just very demotivating, it's okay.
tbh when you manage to do e2s ending without mistakes it feels so awesome that it overweight all the anxiety and hardships of learning. this sequence of boss mechanics in the end of e2s is the most intense stuff I've experienced in mmo for a very long time. And second only to the good old times of eve online.
No greater anxiety than joining an extreme trial or raid saying you know tactics but have never played it before or read up on it. Knowing that if you fail people will know and call you out for it, but if you manage to overcome it, learn pay attention, act dynamically to the boss and how other people react to it, you will have saved yourself a lot of time and have overcome an impossible challenge. Can only recommend the most savage of people. And also that bragging right after you cleared it admitting that you have never been there before.
I started my own groups for running extreme trials synced and it's made me fall in love with the game! Have made some really awesome friends and enjoying these fights. We're onto savage stuff next lol
Most of my fear in Savage raiding is the fact that I started with and primarily use a Black Mage. My mates told me that I gotta pump out big numbers, which isn't what scared me off, but it was the fact that other players actually adjust to me. That genuinely worries me due to the fact that I'm an AoE magnet with two left feet. I still pump up my ilvl to stay well within the necessary numbers to go into a Savage/Extreme raid, but I'm too damn scared to go into one because I'm not the most consistent mage out there. I'd hate to disappoint them.
Test your damage on the Kholusia dummies, if you can kill those within the time limit you are doing enough damage! Sure double-weaving might lead to more but in the end if you can’t, doing enough damage is plenty =)
Double weaving is not a necessity to pull the damage you need to clear. You probably won't perform at a 95+ level. But you can pull an 85-90 at your peaks which is more than enough to clear anything in the game. Even ultimates have a dps check of around 70s.
there are certain jobs that dont double weave at all, and if even if they do it usually wont destroy your dps to single weave to the point where you cant carry your own weight. sure you wont get a 99 on a machinist but especially playing one of the slower jobs you should be fine. Even weave intensive tanks like drk have a single weave opener on the balance, you are not alone.
Not sure which job does the least weaving, but black mage has very few things to weave (is pretty hard though). Tanks like warrior shouldnt need to much as well.
@@Merumya Casters at high ping is a pretty bad idea. Workable yes if you can adjust with it, but when you have high ping, your character location data is registered late to the server. Hence you could finish a cast, move quickly, and start casting. Then out of nowhere an "interupt" will come and cancel your skill due to the server sending data back late. Either way, all class is playable even at high ping. Contrary to the strict optimal rotations. You can find ways to make a slightly supoptimal rotation to still push 90+ % dps per any class. Just do not randomly freestyle. Keep the core rotation still.
"you can and will clear story fights without struggles" When I hear this and remember I've seen a wipe in every room (except the first) in Labyrinth of the Ancient makes me sad. And I was not around during ARR. Anyway, good video!
Great video! But if I could resume it: be good and more importantly be responsible study the fight and your job If I with a 240ping can clear ult and get 90logs anyone can do
Great video, man. I came from WoW in February, played Mythic before and I had some anxiety to start raiding in FFXIV, tho. I am learning about the endgame and maining Gunbreaker and Summoner, and your videos are very helpful to clarify many things, like rotation and gearing. Hugs from Brazil
I often have to remind myself that one can go into a raid with the best skills, but if that person doesn't have an attitude as good as their skills, they can, and quite often, will be the weakest link in the group. Patience and persistence is what wins in the end. Also, the worst person anyone could criticize in the group (besides the healers, for all the jokers out there), is themselves. If one believes themselves to be terrible, they will become terrible trying to too hard to impress others and/or themselves. I speak from experience.
I would like to thank you so much on your video about dragoon rotation I have followed your steps and It made a big difference on my gameplay I feel way more confident and I beating enemies faster then before ^^ plus this video is so encouraging I mean everyone has theirs ways of playing and with a lot of practice you can become better . So continue doing amazing videos like this they are very inspiring ^_^ 😀
I had my first Extreme trial tonight and it was miserable. The party knew what they were doing, I did not. I didn’t understand anything. I was blinded by the effects and didn’t know any of the terms. I feel hopeless, I have no idea how to fix these problems.
As a new player (only been playing for about 2-3 months) i was scared of these raids at first but it’s not that bad especially when you have veterans helping you out and calling out the shots
I do have some fear going into extreme content, just because I know I will run into elitists mindset and I find that incredibly triggering. BUT also, I just really don't see the point of doing it. I find just normal duty finder fun enough.
That is true lol, once you in that mode is hard to stand how other play their jobs. Most people don't fear raid but the many baggage that comes along with it. 😂😂
I tried savage for the first time a week ago, party leader posted a macro in the chat that I had no idea how to follow, I was so embarrassed seeing how everyone knew what to do except me so I asked If they wanted to replace me but they didn't. We tried the fight and as I expected, I was the burden for the group, the worst player in the party. After like 5 wipes though, I could do the 1st phase quite comfortably and basically understood the entire fight from videos, just needed practice. Unfortunately the party disbanded before we tried 2nd phase (platforms in E9S). Now I'm having trouble finding a party in PF and even if I do, they disband quickly and I have to start all over with a new party or wait 2 hours for phase 2 party specifically.
As easy as DPS seems in normal content, I would be useless in Extreme or Savage raids. I constantly forget to press my buttons while I'm focusing on running out of AoEs or trying to pay attention to mechanics. And that would definitely not fly for damage checks. Not only that, but I don't really know optimized rotations or openers, I just kind of do whatever is available. I try not to spam all my ogcd's, but I also might not be using them often enough, or using them together in the right way.
i remember when i started playing i was a monk. and during a roulettes dungeon run, 1 japanese dude ( i play in tonberry) kepet saying "MONK BAD". i was a sprout back then, and for some reason that moment hurt and i still remember it til today. anyway, i decided to play tank after that, and boy, i got so many toxicity cos i was still learning. but i followed though, and became 99 parser tank. i havent played the game for over a year now, and just started resubbing. not gonna lie, all those anxieties are coming back again lol. cant wait to face them all again and follow through.
as an SSS+ tier introvert, i absolutely refuse to raid with complete strangers who are possibly impatient or argumentative, especially if it’s gonna take time and communication and a lot of arguing, and i refuse to hop onto 20 practice PFs that disband 2 runs in after sprinkling the salt all over chat while i’ve learned little to nothing about the fight outside of watching a youtube guide prior to it, and end up being an absolute bum with quite the reputation as i’m trying to master a harder fight (PF tanks reputation to be exact). i’d rather a group of frens whom i know very well, but i couldn’t for the life of me accumulate 7 human beings whom i know very well in this lifetime. i’m sick of this dilemma tbh so fuck it. it’s completely fine to admit that yeah, fuck it. it’s not for me and it’s okay i’m not here to impress anyone and i’m not having fun striving to attain that certain status of good gamer boy. i don’t believe that competence and gratification can only be achieved through excessive and time consuming and ultimately exhausting teamwork when you’re not much of a team player by design.
Thing is I have quite a bad memory and it’s hard to memorize what every single mech does as a new player. Plus after running around for a while I usually have no idea which direction I’m currently in even with every abcd123 stuff on the map it’s painful
After days and weeks of joining a PF practice run for Diamond EX, i managed to clear it couple of days ago 😅 never touching it again idc for weapon and mount drop.
Fun little story I started playin middle of last month and doing some alliances raids right now But some guy kept complaining to me and the other healer but it was either let the team die or focus on him it was so funny to me and friends that he would die so fast like he’s not even moving
Tbf, the best way to get better at raiding is by raiding, so dont be scared. Feel free to annonce it's your first time trying endgame content and you'll find people in your situation. Ofc there are toxics unfortunately but dont let it stop you.
I don't fear raiding... if I did, i'd have the motivation to do it. I'm trying to get over the fact that it feels like working a part-time job that isn't fun. I just want to do it for completion but when I think about the fact that i'm paying to do something tedious and unproductive it's demotivating.
I've tried to get into raids a few times, but I'm always turned off by how much work it is and how quickly a group can turn toxic. Not to mention how bad a time it was to be online in my old FC whenever it was raid night. So much salt... Which is a shame, I like challenging games and would love to excel here. But the risk of unfun moments between friends just doesn't seem worth it.
dude u just got to say fuck them. Like go into a party group with ppl who arent toxic. they do exist lol. Many groups will be perfectly fine with ppl messing up as long as they are trying.
i dont fear it, but the time im going to spend trying to get into a static, weekly runs, just to get a little more bonus in my gear that dont really matter that much anyway.. is not worth it
I recently kinda got over my fear and anxiety for raiding but I feel like I'm not correctly following the Samurai rotation and that I'm not putting out enough DPS. I look at the rotations from SaltedXIV but my memory isn't that good to remember the rotations, so I guess I'm going to need that practice dummy so I can remember lol.
I recently started introducing a couple friends to hard content with diamond ex and on our first real attempt to clear we had a huge toxic asshole who threw an argument over denying the fact they misread their number for limit cut. Thankfully my friends weren’t too fazed as they knew who was in the right and the person being yelled at who was being blamed for doing it wrong when they didn’t also seemed ok.
You will always run into idiots, no matter what game you are playing. The only thing that matters, is that it shouldn't ruin your enjoyment of playing !
as tank mains, doing extreme and savage raid gives me worry, mostly because mitigation management, when to use heavy mitigation/small mitigation/invul/tank swap/gives mitigation to MT, because i use mitigation still on feels the boss attack/whims , thats why i havent do any extreme or savage yet :(
First of all, thanks for the video and awesome guides. I’ve learned all rotations from watching your guides . My main concern is how do I even find a team or “static”? I’ve been back to ff14 since earlier this year and pretty much spent most of my time leveling other jobs to max, getting cryptlurker or augmented exarchic gear. Would I love to do savage or extreme raids? HELL YES! can I find teams or FC’s doing that or recruiting? Nope nope nope..
Got called an idiot for like a solid minute (creative ways tho i will say) by an alliance and a half for dying two or three times to the last boss of tower at paradigms breach. Aint ever raiding again bro, i was violated.
I haven't gotten into raiding yet, and I kinda want to. But I have no idea how one would go about finding a reliable static that is open to newbies, or even if I have the gear to pull my weight in the fights. I have a FC that are really nice, but they've all already got their gear since I joined relatively late, and I don't want to trouble them with my noob antics lol
I haven't gotten into extreme/savage content yet, as i still need to gear up a bit, and learn to play my jobs a bit more "properly". Well that, and i don't have anyone to raid with atm But my main concern is my ping, since im playing on the NA server, from EU, so ping is quite high, and dodge attacks and such can be a pain, especially if they happen quite fast.
Hi! I'm in the UK and play on Crystal and, while I think I couldn't play something like MCH due to my lag, it's definitely not impossible to savage raid on most jobs! My static has cleared e12s and we're moving onto TEA and I'm a little nervous of the lag but I'm used to it at this point :)
i feel most fear to join raids for new player is the experience from WoW raids... they just assume riders are toxic bunch and they dont want to interact whit them in their free time...
I stopped savage exactly because of I can't find a fixed team to prog together since my work schedule is very different from everyone else. I just gave up.
Consider different servers discords, if you want to experience raiding. Its not hard to find one based on your time zone if you look on all 3 DCs. Ping may affect gameplay a bit. But not needed at all to perform more than needed to clear. Try aim on a midcore group.
@@HatsukaRaigeki What if they dont want to use discord, if you have to use discord (an outside source) to co-ordinate a raid group, that's not a good sign imo.
@@zovamou4873 I hope this is not a troll post. Anyway, you can raid without discord that is fine. But finding a static group or even a group to do things in the game without discord or reddit? The person is just gimping themselves and making their life way harder to just do PF or DF.
@@HatsukaRaigeki Its not that hard to find a FC raid group in game as you make it out to be, Ive lost count of the countless big sized, small sized, and medium sized fcs recruiting in shout chat and when I was new I was constantly invited to one despite never having met the person before, its completely feasable in game. Discord is an option, but its not the be all end all for people if they want to find a good static and it shouldnt be. Why do you think they put the community finder tab in the game as well? To help people find recruiting FCs they might be interested in raiding with without the need of third party apps/websites. It's a under used and under appreciated feature that people either ignore or dont even know exist cause they are told to just use discord/reddit.
This game has been an absolute pleasure to play. The only bad thing about this game is the mentors who do go outside and live a normal life. They just play and police the game. Had a mentor last night check out the accessories on my character before we started the drowned city of Skalla, and say is your gear deferent, your under geared, this is for a dungeons that I’ve already cleared with other people and done solo. He swore we would lose a definitely barley healed me through the whole dungeons, I’m a paladin so I spent the whole dungeons healing myself. Glade it was just a dungeon and didn’t get stuck with his trash ass in an extreme. They really try to fuck it up for new players but you gotta ignore those kind of people. Ran the same dungeon again afterwards because I’m farming the fending set for glam. There were no problems just like the other times I ran that dungeon, it’s just going to be some bitch ass mentor who thinks their good at the game, and think that crown gives them some type of authority, I tell you one thing they better not put voice chat in the game or that shit will get cleared up real fast.
Problem with PF is asking before start : everyone knows what to do? for example meteor placement on tsukuyomi. Silence tank pulls boss fight is unsynced going well bam meteors happen = chaos = wipe. I avoid PF full of idiots formed static problem solved won't have to deal with people that refuse to communicate to avoid frustration
My issue with raiding is putting practice tag then when I get there expecting someone to be able to articulate the mechanics some dunce just links a pastebin. What’s the point of the mentor mech if there aren’t any real mentors they just do the grind to get the title and the mount which in turn has ripple effects on the later
Regarding party setup r'equirement, I avoid those like the plague. Anyone setting a specific set of jobs for an EX or SAV encounter probably is a bad player that fell to the whole "this job is better". The gap in dps between top job and bottom job (of the same category) is marginal at best. Player's skill will account much more, and by much i mean 99% more than what job they're playing. A good RDM will always do more than an average BLM. A "slightly above good" RDM will also do more than a "good" BLM. "Any job combination can clear any content" is true. No matter what people say. I've cleared content with what would be considered "trash tier team comp" (like 2 range, DRK no WHM) with no issue. Would a WHM have made the whole living dead issue more enjoyable? Ofc Did it change a thing? nope, they just did 1 less dps gcd. On the other hand they probably saved more gcd heal thanks to the blackestnight that was used litterally on CD. Is DNC/BRD/DRG/BLMa "week 1 team comp"? Probly not, still did savage and uwu. Play what you like, and just be good at it. Being good at your job >>>>> anything else that has to do with team comp for ultimate that's pretty much it, they're not really harder than what you would find in savage (altough you're more likely to encounter tier 3-4 difficulty level mech, than tier 1-2) The core difference is the time you have to think about what you're gonna do and the time between that mech and the next one. If you look at regular EX or Savage encounter, you always have a good 30s between each mech. For instance, E9S first set of mech could be what you'd encounter in a Ultimate, execpt that you wouldn't have 15s between each AoE. It would look more like this 0 : pull, 1 aa, start casting (2s cast RB) 5: start casting spread/share (2s cast) 7: no cast, opposite triggers 1gcd after. 8: TB 12: Transition to forest phase cast In Savage, at 12s: she's just done she's actually just started casting the first AOE. In ultimate you'd be done with the whole set of 3 aoe Nothing here, in term of mechanic is harder, the only difference is the pace. You do not have 15s between each attack. And healers have to properly heal to party quick and effectively. Mitigation becomes mandatory because there's just so much a healer can do. This make these fight also much more enjoyable to learn as you don't have much time to get bored. My bf was reluctant to do Ultimate but he actually enjors it quite a lot.
waiting 4 hours to get a group filled up is what kinda got me away from bothering currently if you get into it and have no friends helping you its a slog to get a practice group going if you dont play when the content is fresh since almost everyone has the clear by then and why would anyone join a practice group if they already have the clear it happens sometimes though
I'm kinda worried about raiding because I'm already in a pretty chill FC and idk if they'll want to go into raiding like I do. I don't want to leave my FC just to join another FC that's more into raiding ya know.😣
Huh... well i may try but it seems like i won't be doing any raiding myself. I can barely keep up with normal eden raids, but with all these extra bits and the fact it's just a bullet hell of mechanics, i just won't be able to keep up
I kinda hate that the game forces you to participate in the raids in order to do the main story line. It really frustrated me cause I wanted to tank 5 mans, so I was leveling as a Warrior/DRK/GNB and the game kept making me tank raids I had no idea what the mechanics were for... So I ended up feeling obligated to start leveling a DPS class too and it kinda burned me out.
I guess my fear of savage or extreme routes in a simply fact: zero overview. I like to watch Drak and his static do the raids blind and finding their way - and everytime I'm like "The hell did you just see that??". And thats me watching them; imagining myself in the middle of that... I'd lose my bearing after the first mechanic. So, I've trained at those dummies - and by now I can kill dia ex with every job... but despite that, as much as I like normal raids and trials... hell, those ase challenging enough for me. As much I would like to try my hand on savage I want to pull my own weight... and with no idea were anything is or what happens... well, I think thats a bad prospect...
make a practice from the start group watch a guide and then learn each mechanic step by step not all at once thats how most ppl do it youll notice the progress and satisfaction of getting your first clear is always special
But how do I actually find people to do savage content with? I've tried looking for statics but they all want savage experience which I dont have. I just want the E4S mount :(
Finding your first static can be hard. Keep looking and work on yourself while you're looking. Work on getting your pre-raid BiS (In Patch 5.55 this would be full Augmented Cryptlurker Gear and a Blade's Weapon from the Resistance Weapon Questline). Join learning parties or make your own, the first 2 fights of a tier are usually PUGable without too many problems. Work on perfecting your rotation. That way you can be sure that any static that doesn't want you is missing out. Be sure to search in multiple ways too, not just in PF. On the European Datacenters we have a Raiding Central discord where we can put ourselves out there with our classes/roles/available times etc. Statics can browse the available players and contact you (and vice-versa, statics can also post adds there for players to search). Maybe the NA and JP Datacenters also have something like that.
You won't ever improve unless you tackle the content that you want to do. Challenge yourself. dying is normal if you do something for the first time! You're gonna die lots and lots but if you put your mind to it and learn from your mistakes you're gonna come out of it as a better player!
This is me grinding to get the 535 Relic weapon so i dont have to think about eden savage. Im a month and some change in and being the reason a team cant clear a savage raid is my fear
Tell them to suck a lemon if they give you any issues. It's all good to be the reason of failure, just make sure you're vocal about the difficulties you're having. People are more likely to hear you out than go back to trying to find another person.
Why do you need relic if you're not raiding? The only reason to get your gear better in this game is to make better parses in savage raids. Better gear has no use outside of raids, this game is not about gearing.
so... what you do when you're from a country that do not have an dedicated server to play and you gotta deal with mechanincs on a 1.5 seconds lag? :v it's that the south america doesn't have a dedicated server, playing with classes that need optimized rotations like Ninja turns to be annoying, beacuse you fight against mechanics and against lag.
@@DesperiusFFXIV I tried, actually, but it just took down my ping to 180ms (was 200), I enjoy that game so much, but is sad to deal with savage content when mechanics goes faster than lag can respond lol
The real issue is finding people who won't sperg out after 2-3 wipes. Seriously I was doing a savage run with a pug and 10 mintues in 3 people were blaming everyone about failure. Like dude we got 90 minutes, smoke some weed and chill.
I dont fear raids, I fear the other 23 people telling me I screwed up
Or the other 47 people, as in Bozja stuff.
When it comes to alliance raids you should not fear messing up as it can be made up by the two dozen other players, you’ll be ok
fuck em
In my years of mmo experience I've learned the toxic people are usually the ones who can't perform and cause the wipes.
If you never screw up, you never learn anything
we all know the real raiding anxiety is : seeing a cut scene for the first time while being fully award everyone else is waiting on you dancing
I run a casual team for people in my Fc. When my main team has completed the tier and there’s a patch lul I take people who are new to FF or new to raiding or simply wouldn’t normally have set foot into savage due to anxiety or fear of not performing well enough and coach them. Build their confidence
I’m new to FF, I really want to raid at a higher level, but yeah, not sure it’s worth it. I don’t mind a raid schedule but I don’t want it to be "ok, so farming consumables will take 6 hours a day, farming gold for repairs will take 6 hours a day, and you will raid for 12 hours a day."
@@alaskaimage395 the thing about raiding is there’s different levels of raiding. Some people raid crazy hardcore. Some raid equally as often but PF only. Some enjoy a more casual relaxed team that raids less.
This particular team I do goes once a week for a couple of hours on a weekend and it’s aimed literally for those who wouldn’t normally set foot in raid.
My advice to you is to join the ERC (European raid centre) or the US equivalent if there is one if you’re from across the pond. Put an ad on there for what you’re seeking. Try setting up some runs with some FC friends too. Create the environment you want to raid in. It’s easy finding 8 good players, it’s hard finding 7 other people you want to spend time with weekly that aren’t dicks
@@alaskaimage395 I don't know if that's the preparation expectation you have got from WoW or other MMOs, but in FF raid prep is amazingly simple. All you really need is the money you got from doing the story and your daily roulettes getting to endgame. Here, unless you spend big on housing or glamor, gold is quite easy to come by. You would get your repair cost settled easily just doing some daily roulettes.
From the marketboard, buy one type of food (30min buff duration each) and one type of stat buff potion (1-2 used per raid encounter), and maybe some materia to slot into the gear you got from the Normal version of the raids. After that you are all set to start raiding. 12 hours a day is insane for anyone not racing to get world first.
My group's schedule was just a couple of days a week for 2 hours each day after work. We were by no means fast, but just taking our time to learn the fights as a group we did eventually clear the last 2 tiers of Shadowbringer's Savage raids.
Bro what server and FC are you in, I need this 😂
Trying to work up towards getting the TEA weapon, it was my main goal before I even started playing XIV. But this sorta stuff is so far away from anything I know, and have no idea how to approach harder content let alone getting a group for it. I haven't hardly ventured at all out of MSQ content 😅
Most of my raiding anxiety comes from past experiences with toxic people. I feel very Confident with my main jobs (BLM and SMN) but I'm just afraid of running into toxic idiots. If not for them, I would have been into endgame raids ages ago. Thanks for the video, this will definately help me get over my fears.
Don't judge people for someone else's actions.
Stick to this mindset and be more confident in your presence and integrity and no toxic idiot will ever ruin your fun.
The best advice I could give....fuck'em. If you're doing what you believe to be your best effort then just let it go in one ear and out the other. Better yet, abandon that toxicity immediately and find another group
look for "practice from start" raids with the sprout marker. That means, whoever started that raid, specifically marked it to be "ok for absolute beginners to come".
Usually those people wont be toxic at all. They are people who genuinely want to help and/or dont mind total beginners.
might I ask what they were toxic about?
Or terrible people that doesn't know what to do. ;( Just had a terrible group in the tower nier raid couldnt keep Hansel and Gretel separate and people just kept on dying not dpsing enough because of it. ;(
This video is right on time. I overcame my tanking and healing anxiety on my own. Extreme and savage anxiety is whole other beast. Thanks for the much needed confidence boost.
My issue with raiding isn't the stress, I enjoy it, it's the teammates that quit after a few wipes because they can't handle it. It's not an issue early on in a patch, but the further down the weeks you go, the harder it is to get into learning parties. Everyone goes with the expectations of clearing but don't understand that it's all about wiping many times and learning.
Yeah, from some videos I watched and my own experience. Western raider: abandon after 2-3 wipes. Japanese raiders: Bash the flippin bosses skull in multiple times regardless of deaths until everyone gets the clear they need.
Probably why jp raid clears are so much higher than ours (besides the point of ffxiv being the only popular mmo there)
@@zovamou4873 they have Dragon quest X and FFXI pretty popular in japan aside from xiv
so basically, learn your job, learn the fight observe for variabilities communicate and have fun ^^
1000% this. I mean there is definitely fights that feel like a dps race, T7 for example and like some of the trials, Ramuh and Garuda being 2 that come to mind. But overall the game is highly designed to just focus on mechanics. Even the jobs are designed so. I know that BRDs are completely different then they were in ARR but literally we ran 2 BRDs solely for buff machines back in the twintania and SCoB days.. we weren't worried about dps and rightfully so until we got closer to FCoB. I mean there's a huge reason meters are controversial and not intended to be in the game.
My only advice for new players going into this, especially from games like WoW or even other mmos, that have alot of fights designed around DPS races and how fast you can actually kill the boss, is just enjoy the game, communicate that you are a newer player and I promise if you don't get a complete explanation of the fight nor the patience that 90% of the players in 14 have, you probably aren't in the right group.. just enjoy the game, learn as much as you can! And you'll you'll just fine :)
Just be good at the game 4Head
I have extreme raiding anxiety right now
I'm most afraid to get into savage content because I hold myself to an extremely high standard and upon messing up mechanics, I would become frustrated with myself. I would think I'm pulling the group down. If I can't keep myself alive through mechanics, how can my group rely on me to keep them alive when needed?
trust me, you can play as perfect as you want, at some point you or someone else will do a lethal mistake.......thats absolutely normal and happens more often than you might think. were all human after all ^^ mistakes happen and no ones getting mad (if youre not doing the same mistakes 100 times in a row) in my Static for example we have days where we grind the hell out of a fight pixelperfect and the next day we constantly wipe 3 hours in a row on the same fight due to small mistakes here and there.....thats totally normal ;)
@@maciiiiiiiiiii That example of your static is literally how it went with my static in the 2nd Eden tier.
Especially Ramuh, for some reason we kept fucking up some mechanics and right after is fury fourteen, so yeah, get wiped.
it's amazing how easy the fight is but then you wipe literally an entire raid session and barely get any prog done on the other fights.
My main issue is what Abyssal said, he holds himself to an extremely high standard, I feel that honestly, especially once you master your rotation and know the entire fight, i'm not gonna wipe my static if I do for example but it becomes extremely hard for me to actually care about that pull.
I main PLD and am a pretty good 1 honestly, (generally an purple parser) but fuck me is it impossible to care about a pull once i've made an mistake or just outright die (especially when not getting healed enough, let alone when Spirits Within comes off cooldown and i'm at 20% HP, WHY YOSHI, WHY IS PLD NOT AN OFF TANK WHEN YOU GIVE US AN ATTACK THAT LITERALLY BECOMES WEAKER THE MORE DAMAGE WE TAKE!?"
I think one of the best ways to get into savage raiding is to begin with people you know well, this tier was my first and I really enjoyed every second of it.
Des, you're such a good Lad :D
I've found myself not wanting to raid anymore, not because of any of the reason's sighted here but because beyond the story completion aspect of say Bozja and Normal Eden I found myself gratified by that as much as l used to be by clearing high end raids back in the day. The only Extreme trial I did for the entirety of Shadowbringers was Memoria Misera, great fun, awesome time but that was for the AF4 armor and glamour the challenge was nice but ultimately not why I was there. I have a huge respect for people who raid and seek that challenge but such organised fighting isn't always feasible as we get older and work and family take there normal places for a lot of people.
Kudos on a great Video \\//
As a newcomer I have found the most important thing is just, be willing to learn and be around people who are willing to teach. You can join practice parties or better yet join raiding discords, or even find people in your FC willing to help you. Nobody goes into a extreme or savage knowing the fight, you must learn before you clear. And even after you clear there's always more to learn, both about the fight and your job. Don't expect to ace it right away and avoid people who expect that.
Back then i was very scared of doing EX content let alone savage, but now i'm progging for E12S! You just have to learn the mechanics and be patient with wiping because without wiping you will not learn!
AND REMEMBER RAIDING IS ALL FOR FUN, SO DONT STRESS YOURSELVES and keep hydrated!
I am just not coordinated enought to type and fight at the same time and am in awe of those who can maintain thier rotation and do so.
Been working in IT for 25 years. And I still can’t type coherently.
I play on a PS5 so i can’t type in a middle of a fight whatsoever
Easier on controller I guess, you can effectively type and play at the same time without the risk of accidentally turning the chat and wasting key presses in it
We're not seeing this emphasised here or in the video, so here's our addition:
It's okay to wipe. We all wipe. Sometimes a lot. It's okay to not get it every time. Wiping on a fight is a normal part of the process.
Party wipes are part of the raiding experience. Sure, if you've completed a fight a bunch of times, and then someone mentally 404s and you all wipe, it can be frustrating, but its also normal. We're not bots. We can't be perfect every time. And we can't be perfect the first time, either. It's okay to fail a fight. Just talk about the mechanics, go over them with the group if need be, and try again. People attempt to prog the fights blind, with no help from guides or anything, so its possible to figure it out. Sometimes it takes time.
Great video. I've been trying to get into the Extreme and Savage raiding, but my anxiety just gets the best of me. About once a month I will try to join a group after watching a video on the harder content. I just have a hard time retaining what I watched. Plus, my main is whm. I love being the support, but knowing I'm the most crucial person on the team really scares me. If I die, they die. Also, people will talk out strategies with abbreviations and words I know nothing about, so even when they explain something I'm still lost. The ONLY reason I attempt the harder content is for the weapons. Thats it. I've been a super casual player since day 1 of FF14. Play all the PVE content until I finish the story and play the new raid, then take a break waiting for the next content to be released. I hope one day I will beat something on Savage. Still haven't to this day.
This is actually a legitimate psychological effect that happens, though admittedly, these effects have only ever been studied in research involving driving and learning to ride a bike.
I forget the terminology but there are parts of the brain, upon learning something, that become very active which then take up other parts of the brain. Basically when learning something new, especially something visual and involving parts of the body having to move or interact with something else (keeping in mind driving or riding a bike.), your brain is focusing resources and concentration to make sure you're doing the thing. This of course, when first learning, can affect tiny details like peripheral awareness, maybe you have a list of things to think about to make sure you get it right, bam, resources are going there to make sure you get it right. BUT the more you do this something begins to change.
There's a part of the brain that when you reach a point where you do something so often, that you've become so confident in with practice, that the "resources" and "concentration focus" actually becomes less. That doesn't mean you're NOT concentrating on the outside level of performing the task, but on a brain level it actually means that your brain is not allocating these ultra focused resources and in turn is actually FREEING up these resources on a level in which you can now DO MORE.
So very much like practicing a job rotation or doing a fight in a game: When you're learning, you may be thinking "Ok, got do these button first, then this skill, then this one, OH SHIT, mechanic RUN, fuck my rotation!" But as you do it more you'll get to the point where you're not thinking about the order, not thinking about what comes next because it just comes naturally now. And now that you can perform at this level your brain is now more free to concentrate and react to mechanics. You performing your rotation has become so engrained (just as someone who learned to ride a bike is not thinking about balance or falling anymore) that you can now expand the amount of things you can keep an eye on.
When it comes to a videogame, reaching this point is just satisfying to complete a fight. (as a recreational hobby should be lol). But just like learning to drive, depending on the person you are; when you get that confidence level with practice all said and done, you're obviously not thinking "Oh shit, im gonna hit something!" or "Damn I hate parallel parking!". You'll reach the point where you're just performing these mechanical tasks automatically and without as much fear or stress or worry. (It's different for everyone of course.)
Yeah. Basically this.
Id adivse to either
a) learn the fight first without concentrating on your rotation
or
b) learn your rotation until it feels second nature.
Which ever you learned first helps you to have an easier time doing the other.
I completely agree with what was said in the video. I first started raiding in Heavensward during the final tier of Alexander. Started in A9S learning parties, practiced my rotation on the "Stone, Sky, Sea" dummies at least once a day for like an hour, got better gear, joined a newly forming static, raided with them for weeks until we finally cleared A11S before the echo was implemented and then A12S after echo was available.
This continued into Stormblood where we quickly cleared the first fights of Omega Deltascape and then beat Neo-Exdeath after ~8 weeks of raiding. The video of that is still on UA-cam and hearing the voices of all myself and all my friends cheering after he went down gets me nostalgic. That group broke up after our first clear of God-Kefka though since most of us were burned out a bit. I still raided until the end of Omega Alphascape though and brought Final Omega down with a new group.
Morale of the story is that everyone that clears the "big scary final fights of a tier" starts somewhere small. I had tons of self-doubt in the early days but i got better and better. I even got a 99% parse on O5S on the way there. I didn't do any savage or extreme raiding in Shadowbringers, but if i had the time and wanted to i'd now know exactly that i could do it again.
@Joe Schmoe youre right. I just don't have much time in general so i spend it on other content 😁
I just found a raid group and we are currently learning Cinder Drift. Communication is key and we all learn from one another. Even me, the monk who knows and is still learning her gear and rotations.
"You don't tell me what to do, Desperius, you don't pay my sub!" :D
Just kidding, very encouraging video, part of me want to do high-end stuff, I did in the past, but socializing to do challenges with others and knowing every expansion even simple dungeon gears will outperform hard-grinded current savage gears is just very demotivating, it's okay.
tbh when you manage to do e2s ending without mistakes it feels so awesome that it overweight all the anxiety and hardships of learning.
this sequence of boss mechanics in the end of e2s is the most intense stuff I've experienced in mmo for a very long time. And second only to the good old times of eve online.
No greater anxiety than joining an extreme trial or raid saying you know tactics but have never played it before or read up on it. Knowing that if you fail people will know and call you out for it, but if you manage to overcome it, learn pay attention, act dynamically to the boss and how other people react to it, you will have saved yourself a lot of time and have overcome an impossible challenge. Can only recommend the most savage of people. And also that bragging right after you cleared it admitting that you have never been there before.
I started my own groups for running extreme trials synced and it's made me fall in love with the game! Have made some really awesome friends and enjoying these fights. We're onto savage stuff next lol
Most of my fear in Savage raiding is the fact that I started with and primarily use a Black Mage. My mates told me that I gotta pump out big numbers, which isn't what scared me off, but it was the fact that other players actually adjust to me. That genuinely worries me due to the fact that I'm an AoE magnet with two left feet. I still pump up my ilvl to stay well within the necessary numbers to go into a Savage/Extreme raid, but I'm too damn scared to go into one because I'm not the most consistent mage out there. I'd hate to disappoint them.
Due to my ping I literally can't double weave, that alone makes me hesitant because I wouldn't be doing as much damage as I should be doing.
Test your damage on the Kholusia dummies, if you can kill those within the time limit you are doing enough damage! Sure double-weaving might lead to more but in the end if you can’t, doing enough damage is plenty =)
Double weaving is not a necessity to pull the damage you need to clear. You probably won't perform at a 95+ level. But you can pull an 85-90 at your peaks which is more than enough to clear anything in the game. Even ultimates have a dps check of around 70s.
there are certain jobs that dont double weave at all, and if even if they do it usually wont destroy your dps to single weave to the point where you cant carry your own weight. sure you wont get a 99 on a machinist but especially playing one of the slower jobs you should be fine. Even weave intensive tanks like drk have a single weave opener on the balance, you are not alone.
Not sure which job does the least weaving, but black mage has very few things to weave (is pretty hard though). Tanks like warrior shouldnt need to much as well.
@@Merumya Casters at high ping is a pretty bad idea. Workable yes if you can adjust with it, but when you have high ping, your character location data is registered late to the server. Hence you could finish a cast, move quickly, and start casting. Then out of nowhere an "interupt" will come and cancel your skill due to the server sending data back late.
Either way, all class is playable even at high ping. Contrary to the strict optimal rotations. You can find ways to make a slightly supoptimal rotation to still push 90+ % dps per any class. Just do not randomly freestyle. Keep the core rotation still.
Managed to duty find a crew for Titan Extreme the other day.
Was wild.
"you can and will clear story fights without struggles"
When I hear this and remember I've seen a wipe in every room (except the first) in Labyrinth of the Ancient makes me sad. And I was not around during ARR.
Anyway, good video!
Great video! But if I could resume it: be good and more importantly be responsible study the fight and your job
If I with a 240ping can clear ult and get 90logs anyone can do
Great video, man.
I came from WoW in February, played Mythic before and I had some anxiety to start raiding in FFXIV, tho.
I am learning about the endgame and maining Gunbreaker and Summoner, and your videos are very helpful to clarify many things, like rotation and gearing.
Hugs from Brazil
If you're playing SMN go to Akhmorning for your rotation, it varies massively depending on party setup
I am always afraid of raiding. Because if there are beautiful girls like you in my group I fear to disappoint them
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I often have to remind myself that one can go into a raid with the best skills, but if that person doesn't have an attitude as good as their skills, they can, and quite often, will be the weakest link in the group.
Patience and persistence is what wins in the end.
Also, the worst person anyone could criticize in the group (besides the healers, for all the jokers out there), is themselves. If one believes themselves to be terrible, they will become terrible trying to too hard to impress others and/or themselves. I speak from experience.
I would like to thank you so much on your video about dragoon rotation I have followed your steps and It made a big difference on my gameplay I feel way more confident and I beating enemies faster then before ^^ plus this video is so encouraging I mean everyone has theirs ways of playing and with a lot of practice you can become better . So continue doing amazing videos like this they are very inspiring ^_^ 😀
Thank you very much, I am glad to hear that !
"Toxic assholes" nice and true. Really enjoy your stuff.
17 year WoW veteran here. Raiding was my all time favorite past time. I look forward to raiding in FF14, but am in no rush to get there.
I had my first Extreme trial tonight and it was miserable. The party knew what they were doing, I did not. I didn’t understand anything.
I was blinded by the effects and didn’t know any of the terms. I feel hopeless, I have no idea how to fix these problems.
As a new player (only been playing for about 2-3 months) i was scared of these raids at first but it’s not that bad especially when you have veterans helping you out and calling out the shots
that diablo music just gives me the chills, its soo good!
I do have some fear going into extreme content, just because I know I will run into elitists mindset and I find that incredibly triggering. BUT also, I just really don't see the point of doing it. I find just normal duty finder fun enough.
That is true lol, once you in that mode is hard to stand how other play their jobs. Most people don't fear raid but the many baggage that comes along with it. 😂😂
I get dungeon anxiety in XIV being a new player. I’ll never raid 😂
I tried savage for the first time a week ago, party leader posted a macro in the chat that I had no idea how to follow, I was so embarrassed seeing how everyone knew what to do except me so I asked If they wanted to replace me but they didn't. We tried the fight and as I expected, I was the burden for the group, the worst player in the party. After like 5 wipes though, I could do the 1st phase quite comfortably and basically understood the entire fight from videos, just needed practice. Unfortunately the party disbanded before we tried 2nd phase (platforms in E9S). Now I'm having trouble finding a party in PF and even if I do, they disband quickly and I have to start all over with a new party or wait 2 hours for phase 2 party specifically.
What I love about 24 man, only tank in group C of course but the 2 WHM 0 heals going out and I die. Repededly several several times over.
As easy as DPS seems in normal content, I would be useless in Extreme or Savage raids. I constantly forget to press my buttons while I'm focusing on running out of AoEs or trying to pay attention to mechanics. And that would definitely not fly for damage checks. Not only that, but I don't really know optimized rotations or openers, I just kind of do whatever is available. I try not to spam all my ogcd's, but I also might not be using them often enough, or using them together in the right way.
i remember when i started playing i was a monk. and during a roulettes dungeon run, 1 japanese dude ( i play in tonberry) kepet saying "MONK BAD". i was a sprout back then, and for some reason that moment hurt and i still remember it til today. anyway, i decided to play tank after that, and boy, i got so many toxicity cos i was still learning. but i followed though, and became 99 parser tank. i havent played the game for over a year now, and just started resubbing. not gonna lie, all those anxieties are coming back again lol. cant wait to face them all again and follow through.
dont play on tonberry then
as an SSS+ tier introvert, i absolutely refuse to raid with complete strangers who are possibly impatient or argumentative, especially if it’s gonna take time and communication and a lot of arguing, and i refuse to hop onto 20 practice PFs that disband 2 runs in after sprinkling the salt all over chat while i’ve learned little to nothing about the fight outside of watching a youtube guide prior to it, and end up being an absolute bum with quite the reputation as i’m trying to master a harder fight (PF tanks reputation to be exact). i’d rather a group of frens whom i know very well, but i couldn’t for the life of me accumulate 7 human beings whom i know very well in this lifetime. i’m sick of this dilemma tbh so fuck it. it’s completely fine to admit that yeah, fuck it. it’s not for me and it’s okay i’m not here to impress anyone and i’m not having fun striving to attain that certain status of good gamer boy. i don’t believe that competence and gratification can only be achieved through excessive and time consuming and ultimately exhausting teamwork when you’re not much of a team player by design.
Great video as always
Yea the content isn't so daunting but the ppl ..lot of toxic raiders out there and finding chill ppl in general Is a chore doe
Just got to ilvl 527. Can’t be bothered with relics and I don’t savage raid so I’ve got everything I can other than a single ring and weapon to 530.
Thing is I have quite a bad memory and it’s hard to memorize what every single mech does as a new player. Plus after running around for a while I usually have no idea which direction I’m currently in even with every abcd123 stuff on the map it’s painful
i’ve met really toxic people in normal content, so i’m just worried that that kind of toxicity would be increased tenfold in savage.
After days and weeks of joining a PF practice run for Diamond EX, i managed to clear it couple of days ago 😅 never touching it again idc for weapon and mount drop.
Fun little story I started playin middle of last month and doing some alliances raids right now
But some guy kept complaining to me and the other healer but it was either let the team die or focus on him it was so funny to me and friends that he would die so fast like he’s not even moving
My only raid anxiety was the kids fighting while I’m trying to concentrate. That’s why I quit savage and stick to Gold Saucer now.
me about to start doing the hard stuff i looked up this video cause im a nervous wreck
Tbf, the best way to get better at raiding is by raiding, so dont be scared. Feel free to annonce it's your first time trying endgame content and you'll find people in your situation. Ofc there are toxics unfortunately but dont let it stop you.
The only thing i fear nowadays is the log-in Qs! xD
Oooh night bloom,I live that song and wayward daughet
I don't fear raiding... if I did, i'd have the motivation to do it. I'm trying to get over the fact that it feels like working a part-time job that isn't fun. I just want to do it for completion but when I think about the fact that i'm paying to do something tedious and unproductive it's demotivating.
I've tried to get into raids a few times, but I'm always turned off by how much work it is and how quickly a group can turn toxic.
Not to mention how bad a time it was to be online in my old FC whenever it was raid night. So much salt...
Which is a shame, I like challenging games and would love to excel here. But the risk of unfun moments between friends just doesn't seem worth it.
dude u just got to say fuck them. Like go into a party group with ppl who arent toxic. they do exist lol. Many groups will be perfectly fine with ppl messing up as long as they are trying.
9 > 0. Get in there and DO IT!
When is Desperius going to make a video on black market moogle fights
i dont fear it, but the time im going to spend trying to get into a static, weekly runs, just to get a little more bonus in my gear that dont really matter that much anyway.. is not worth it
As soon as i finish the story i am going to raid all day every day
I recently kinda got over my fear and anxiety for raiding but I feel like I'm not correctly following the Samurai rotation and that I'm not putting out enough DPS. I look at the rotations from SaltedXIV but my memory isn't that good to remember the rotations, so I guess I'm going to need that practice dummy so I can remember lol.
If you're worried you will be bad, trust me, there will ALWAYS be someone worse than you. Give it a try, it's super fun!
I recently started introducing a couple friends to hard content with diamond ex and on our first real attempt to clear we had a huge toxic asshole who threw an argument over denying the fact they misread their number for limit cut. Thankfully my friends weren’t too fazed as they knew who was in the right and the person being yelled at who was being blamed for doing it wrong when they didn’t also seemed ok.
You will always run into idiots, no matter what game you are playing. The only thing that matters, is that it shouldn't ruin your enjoyment of playing !
I've cleared tons of savage with purples as well as ucob and I still have anxiety every time
as tank mains, doing extreme and savage raid gives me worry, mostly because mitigation management, when to use heavy mitigation/small mitigation/invul/tank swap/gives mitigation to MT, because i use mitigation still on feels the boss attack/whims , thats why i havent do any extreme or savage yet :(
First of all, thanks for the video and awesome guides. I’ve learned all rotations from watching your guides .
My main concern is how do I even find a team or “static”? I’ve been back to ff14 since earlier this year and pretty much spent most of my time leveling other jobs to max, getting cryptlurker or augmented exarchic gear. Would I love to do savage or extreme raids? HELL YES! can I find teams or FC’s doing that or recruiting? Nope nope nope..
If there is no one recruiting, you can put out a PF saying you are looking for a static or FC. Which server are you on?
@@marajademiller477 hello. I’m on the adamatoise server NA
I can't help then sadly, I'm on Light DC :(
Back in WOW TBC & WOTLK I raided competitively, I love hard content but there is no way I’m going back to 6-12 hours 7 days a week raiding.
rather than anxiety which is very down on my list it's more time since I'm play where it's downtime for the server
Got called an idiot for like a solid minute (creative ways tho i will say) by an alliance and a half for dying two or three times to the last boss of tower at paradigms breach. Aint ever raiding again bro, i was violated.
I haven't gotten into raiding yet, and I kinda want to. But I have no idea how one would go about finding a reliable static that is open to newbies, or even if I have the gear to pull my weight in the fights. I have a FC that are really nice, but they've all already got their gear since I joined relatively late, and I don't want to trouble them with my noob antics lol
I haven't gotten into extreme/savage content yet, as i still need to gear up a bit, and learn to play my jobs a bit more "properly".
Well that, and i don't have anyone to raid with atm
But my main concern is my ping, since im playing on the NA server, from EU, so ping is quite high, and dodge attacks and such can be a pain, especially if they happen quite fast.
Hi! I'm in the UK and play on Crystal and, while I think I couldn't play something like MCH due to my lag, it's definitely not impossible to savage raid on most jobs! My static has cleared e12s and we're moving onto TEA and I'm a little nervous of the lag but I'm used to it at this point :)
How about fear of time commitment? Sometimes I wanna do extremes and I just think to myself: “shit this is gonna take two hours”
i feel most fear to join raids for new player is the experience from WoW raids... they just assume riders are toxic bunch and they dont want to interact whit them in their free time...
I stopped savage exactly because of I can't find a fixed team to prog together since my work schedule is very different from everyone else.
I just gave up.
I've had that issue. My schedule isnt very good for raiding, but I've been lucky enough to find a group.
Consider different servers discords, if you want to experience raiding. Its not hard to find one based on your time zone if you look on all 3 DCs. Ping may affect gameplay a bit. But not needed at all to perform more than needed to clear. Try aim on a midcore group.
@@HatsukaRaigeki What if they dont want to use discord, if you have to use discord (an outside source) to co-ordinate a raid group, that's not a good sign imo.
@@zovamou4873 I hope this is not a troll post. Anyway, you can raid without discord that is fine. But finding a static group or even a group to do things in the game without discord or reddit? The person is just gimping themselves and making their life way harder to just do PF or DF.
@@HatsukaRaigeki Its not that hard to find a FC raid group in game as you make it out to be, Ive lost count of the countless big sized, small sized, and medium sized fcs recruiting in shout chat and when I was new I was constantly invited to one despite never having met the person before, its completely feasable in game. Discord is an option, but its not the be all end all for people if they want to find a good static and it shouldnt be. Why do you think they put the community finder tab in the game as well? To help people find recruiting FCs they might be interested in raiding with without the need of third party apps/websites. It's a under used and under appreciated feature that people either ignore or dont even know exist cause they are told to just use discord/reddit.
Nothing like playing with UI hidden to go full immersion (wish just the resource UI would should up)
literally my only problem is not finding a static :(
This game has been an absolute pleasure to play. The only bad thing about this game is the mentors who do go outside and live a normal life. They just play and police the game. Had a mentor last night check out the accessories on my character before we started the drowned city of Skalla, and say is your gear deferent, your under geared, this is for a dungeons that I’ve already cleared with other people and done solo. He swore we would lose a definitely barley healed me through the whole dungeons, I’m a paladin so I spent the whole dungeons healing myself. Glade it was just a dungeon and didn’t get stuck with his trash ass in an extreme. They really try to fuck it up for new players but you gotta ignore those kind of people. Ran the same dungeon again afterwards because I’m farming the fending set for glam. There were no problems just like the other times I ran that dungeon, it’s just going to be some bitch ass mentor who thinks their good at the game, and think that crown gives them some type of authority, I tell you one thing they better not put voice chat in the game or that shit will get cleared up real fast.
its been almost 250 hours and i couldn't pick what dps to play. I got really tired from leveling :P
Problem with PF is asking before start : everyone knows what to do? for example meteor placement on tsukuyomi. Silence tank pulls boss fight is unsynced going well bam meteors happen = chaos = wipe. I avoid PF full of idiots formed static problem solved won't have to deal with people that refuse to communicate to avoid frustration
My issue with raiding is putting practice tag then when I get there expecting someone to be able to articulate the mechanics some dunce just links a pastebin. What’s the point of the mentor mech if there aren’t any real mentors they just do the grind to get the title and the mount which in turn has ripple effects on the later
Regarding party setup r'equirement, I avoid those like the plague.
Anyone setting a specific set of jobs for an EX or SAV encounter probably is a bad player that fell to the whole "this job is better".
The gap in dps between top job and bottom job (of the same category) is marginal at best. Player's skill will account much more, and by much i mean 99% more than what job they're playing.
A good RDM will always do more than an average BLM. A "slightly above good" RDM will also do more than a "good" BLM.
"Any job combination can clear any content" is true. No matter what people say.
I've cleared content with what would be considered "trash tier team comp" (like 2 range, DRK no WHM) with no issue.
Would a WHM have made the whole living dead issue more enjoyable? Ofc
Did it change a thing? nope, they just did 1 less dps gcd. On the other hand they probably saved more gcd heal thanks to the blackestnight that was used litterally on CD.
Is DNC/BRD/DRG/BLMa "week 1 team comp"? Probly not, still did savage and uwu.
Play what you like, and just be good at it. Being good at your job >>>>> anything else that has to do with team comp
for ultimate that's pretty much it,
they're not really harder than what you would find in savage (altough you're more likely to encounter tier 3-4 difficulty level mech, than tier 1-2)
The core difference is the time you have to think about what you're gonna do and the time between that mech and the next one.
If you look at regular EX or Savage encounter, you always have a good 30s between each mech. For instance, E9S first set of mech could be what you'd encounter in a Ultimate, execpt that you wouldn't have 15s between each AoE.
It would look more like this
0 : pull, 1 aa, start casting (2s cast RB)
5: start casting spread/share (2s cast)
7: no cast, opposite triggers 1gcd after.
8: TB
12: Transition to forest phase cast
In Savage, at 12s: she's just done she's actually just started casting the first AOE. In ultimate you'd be done with the whole set of 3 aoe
Nothing here, in term of mechanic is harder, the only difference is the pace. You do not have 15s between each attack. And healers have to properly heal to party quick and effectively.
Mitigation becomes mandatory because there's just so much a healer can do.
This make these fight also much more enjoyable to learn as you don't have much time to get bored.
My bf was reluctant to do Ultimate but he actually enjors it quite a lot.
waiting 4 hours to get a group filled up is what kinda got me away from bothering currently if you get into it and have no friends helping you its a slog to get a practice group going if you dont play when the content is fresh since almost everyone has the clear by then and why would anyone join a practice group if they already have the clear it happens sometimes though
I'm kinda worried about raiding because I'm already in a pretty chill FC and idk if they'll want to go into raiding like I do. I don't want to leave my FC just to join another FC that's more into raiding ya know.😣
what DPS addon are you using?
Question, what is the rotation effect happening in the bottom left? Is it something added with post recording software?
its a Websocket plugin for ACT
@@kahl9670 that's so cool!
Huh... well i may try but it seems like i won't be doing any raiding myself. I can barely keep up with normal eden raids, but with all these extra bits and the fact it's just a bullet hell of mechanics, i just won't be able to keep up
I kinda hate that the game forces you to participate in the raids in order to do the main story line. It really frustrated me cause I wanted to tank 5 mans, so I was leveling as a Warrior/DRK/GNB and the game kept making me tank raids I had no idea what the mechanics were for... So I ended up feeling obligated to start leveling a DPS class too and it kinda burned me out.
I guess my fear of savage or extreme routes in a simply fact: zero overview. I like to watch Drak and his static do the raids blind and finding their way - and everytime I'm like "The hell did you just see that??". And thats me watching them; imagining myself in the middle of that... I'd lose my bearing after the first mechanic. So, I've trained at those dummies - and by now I can kill dia ex with every job... but despite that, as much as I like normal raids and trials... hell, those ase challenging enough for me. As much I would like to try my hand on savage I want to pull my own weight... and with no idea were anything is or what happens... well, I think thats a bad prospect...
make a practice from the start group watch a guide and then learn each mechanic step by step not all at once thats how most ppl do it youll notice the progress and satisfaction of getting your first clear is always special
Ok but how do you get into this content? Is there some unlock quest? Some secret menu to access these, what?
But how do I actually find people to do savage content with? I've tried looking for statics but they all want savage experience which I dont have. I just want the E4S mount :(
Finding your first static can be hard. Keep looking and work on yourself while you're looking. Work on getting your pre-raid BiS (In Patch 5.55 this would be full Augmented Cryptlurker Gear and a Blade's Weapon from the Resistance Weapon Questline). Join learning parties or make your own, the first 2 fights of a tier are usually PUGable without too many problems. Work on perfecting your rotation. That way you can be sure that any static that doesn't want you is missing out.
Be sure to search in multiple ways too, not just in PF. On the European Datacenters we have a Raiding Central discord where we can put ourselves out there with our classes/roles/available times etc. Statics can browse the available players and contact you (and vice-versa, statics can also post adds there for players to search). Maybe the NA and JP Datacenters also have something like that.
i‘m afraid of hard dungeons since i started 2 weeks ago :( i‘m a red mage and scared i won‘t do enough damage or die lol
You won't ever improve unless you tackle the content that you want to do. Challenge yourself. dying is normal if you do something for the first time! You're gonna die lots and lots but if you put your mind to it and learn from your mistakes you're gonna come out of it as a better player!
@@hydrohomie254 oh wow that motivated me 😭 i just don‘t want to make my team mad but i‘ll try it today!
There're no hard dungeons in this game, sadly.
How to: Play game, Learn game, play game. Phew, thanks for that. ^_^
Isn't Salted being shut down soon though?
This is me grinding to get the 535 Relic weapon so i dont have to think about eden savage. Im a month and some change in and being the reason a team cant clear a savage raid is my fear
Tell them to suck a lemon if they give you any issues. It's all good to be the reason of failure, just make sure you're vocal about the difficulties you're having. People are more likely to hear you out than go back to trying to find another person.
Why do you need relic if you're not raiding? The only reason to get your gear better in this game is to make better parses in savage raids. Better gear has no use outside of raids, this game is not about gearing.
@@ewigeleiden9045 because I just want it.. also by the time EW hits i dont have to worry about gear until level 87 or 88
so... what you do when you're from a country that do not have an dedicated server to play and you gotta deal with mechanincs on a 1.5 seconds lag? :v
it's that the south america doesn't have a dedicated server, playing with classes that need optimized rotations like Ninja turns to be annoying, beacuse you fight against mechanics and against lag.
You should check out NoPing or ExitLag for bypassing some connection issues. Some people use these VPN services, to reduce their Ping significantly
@@DesperiusFFXIV I tried, actually, but it just took down my ping to 180ms (was 200), I enjoy that game so much, but is sad to deal with savage content when mechanics goes faster than lag can respond lol
I wanna play this game but its seem so overwhelming.. like everything
Savage raiding is really fun and entertaining, except when regular pf can't do mechanics properly and teams disband.
The real issue is finding people who won't sperg out after 2-3 wipes. Seriously I was doing a savage run with a pug and 10 mintues in 3 people were blaming everyone about failure. Like dude we got 90 minutes, smoke some weed and chill.