This is Why Marketing Shouldn't Design Guitars | 80's Gibson Corvus / Futura History | Review + Demo
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:39 - Corvus Futura History
1:23 - Corvus Models
2:08 - Gibson Futura Specs 1983
3:04 - Why the Design?
4:51 - Why The Name Corvus?
5:29 - Colors
6:55 - Inside Look / Specs
14:16 - Futura Demo
15:38 - Corvus Demo
17:20 - Final Thoughts
19:56 - Blacklight Test
20:48 - The Case
📚 Description: The Gibson Corvus and Futura are some strangely shaped guitars. They are often called the "can opener" or "Pacman guitar" but the shape is actually supposed to resemble a bird in flight - more specifically... a crow because Corvus is Latin for crow. Gibson's marketing team turned this once headless design into a laughing stock of a guitar.
Despite the odd shape - they are nice comfortable bedroom strummers with a pretty good tone. The neck heavy design doesnt' make them my favorite to stand with unless you're in a "power-rock" pose.
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Bill Lawrence pickups have their drawbacks but do sound great clean.
I would love too but it's still pricey for my taste although I would love to have it.
Ugly corvice
It's definitely mahogany
its mahogany i have a book on woods i want to send you
Not even kidding, this is my dream guitar. I'm so enamored with the shape and how unconventional it is, I'm actually considering learning guitar making to craft more for myself.
This guitar is like when Homer’s long lost brother let him design a car
The Powell Motors car!
"$82,000!!! I'm ruined."
Persephone
IM RUINED! the story of Gibson.
@@JaseWescott Gibson : Pay Authentic
For some reason I’ve never wanted a guitar more than this one. Single EMG 81 and you’re good
A period pick-up and all the space you need for the battery under the pick guard.
This looks like something King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard would play.
Hahaha I'd love to see a micro tonal corvus
Stu or Joey plays that Holy Explorer thingy which is the guitar Trogly has talked about a while ago so...maybe Austin and King Giz has some similarity in that way?
There is no planet B!!!!!! (gallops)
how correct you were, my goodness
I absolutely love how wonky this looks. Gotta thank the Guitar Hero series for introducing these wonderful pieces of guitar history to me.
The straight string headstock is the best thing on this model!
That wraparound is kinda cool too.
The kind of collector piece that other collectors would say “Why the hell would you buy that.”
I have a few of those!
It looks like a better functioning guitar than the Les Paul models.
Definitely wasn't expecting this one!
I wasn’t expecting “Limp Richard” 😂
Yup... the ol’ Corvis
This era of Gibson is Trogly’s bread and butter tho I’ve missed it, actually
Other than favoring a front mounted jack,I actually LIKED the Corvus because it's odd shaped,light weight and sounded great with a DiMarzio. Wished I wouldn't have sold mine.
i prefer trogly's playing over the other guy. that dude is clearly a beast, but the simpler playing really showcases what the guitars sound like. that guitar sounded surprisingly good too
This brings back memories. My friend played a black Corvus I in our band back in high school. He always got asked about it by other guitar players wherever we played. It was weird, but that’s what we loved about it.
Woooot love when new trogly vids come out! Keep up the excellent work... I love learning!
Nice to have a classic Trogly episode with another quirky offering from Gibson's past. Gives me that happy feeling inside!
Nice! Always cool to see Weber demoing guitars for ya! Great dude and a great player! A fellow NE Ohio musician!
"I wouldn't mind having a mint condition collection of every colour."
Never change Trogly
Rather than jumping onto the headless bandwagon, it looks more like Gibson trying to jump into the BC Rich market ... lol
Now that’s a collaboration I’d like to see!
The Bich was originally a ten string, so the design element is the same as this corvus model
Didnt know that the headless design was already a thing in the early 80s. I know of the steinberger model that evh amongst others made famous, but that was 86 onwards.
My guitar teacher in the eaely 90s had a steinberger with no head and It already looked so 80s and outdated but it.was.still pretty interesting and played well
Had a hideous day today. This makes my night. Love that you're talking about this weird guitar.
All it takes his some kid to make it big playing one of these and instant collectors money.
That time has passed... If Kurt Cobain or Chris Cornell had used one, it'd be in demand now. My generation doesn't have any real guitar heros.
Bro I really need to get a corvus, it's like if you told someone to make a V on shrooms haha
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@Pompous Psycho lmfao it's youtube man relax
Is the person building it on shrooms or is the guitar on shrooms? The world may never know.
@Pompous Psycho Thank You
hahahaha
It’s so kooky I love it. It’s cool how that cutaway fits the leg
Does Michael Weber look like he is straight out of an 80s new wave band to anyone else? Very Joe Strummer vibes.
Even more so with that Corvus!
If you’re talking about the bandanna wearing butthole, I’d rather shit in my hands and clap than see his stupid face.
@@bikerjon8934 Lol why so mad?
@@bikerjon8934 wow, that repressed rage from not making it big in your youth clearly wasn't buried too deep. Talk about an inferiority complex.
@@bikerjon8934 uncalled for.
I love mine. My wife bought one for me in 83. It's very light and plays great and fun to have a guitar that's different.
I love the look of the Corvus. I've never played one though. I know that Tim Kasher from the band Cursive plays one. Super cool!
I love that bridge!! I'd love to find one to put on my doublecut Junior!
Is it just me or does he sound like he has some candy in his mouth during this video?
I was thinking the same thing
@@allisonholmesmusic97 me too
I actually own the tangerine Corvus II shown in this video @ 6:19. That photo was one of a few taken by Nationwide Guitars when they posted the guitar for sale. It is in mint condition and includes the original Gibson hard shell case and original warranty card.
That hand print case is gorgeous! Someone would want that!
I really dig the funky coolness of the Corvus. I was 12 and reading Guitar World and Guitar Player Magazine for the first time. Excellent Video👍🎸
I don't want one, but I DO want one of the pickups in it... that thing was beauty when you gave it gain!
I'd rock it just for how weird it is!
I would too, if I could move the strap button on the left though.
They should of made them silver burst.
With a reversed neck pickup?
Now thats funny
And charge 10 K for the Costom shop redux!!!!
Trogly, you should do a video where you show your personal collection. You buy and sell so many guitars-it would be really cool to see which ones you liked so much you kept them!
Pretty cool. I don't remember ever seeing one before.
seen a band that would shred on one of these, a big Cursive fan too.
I had an UltraVoilet Futura with factory gold Kahler tremolo. Bought it new in 1983. Came across a couple of photos with it just the other day. As I recall, I liked it pretty well.
I'm omw to buy this exact same spec model down to the color rn. Did yours have a locking tuner bar?
God I really like that wrap around bridge. Would love to get one of those for my jr
Wow made me smile today thanks
Great one! Craziest Gibson guitar, but on the bass side, check out the 20/20 bass from the same era!
Limp Richard, lmao! Good info as always. Thanks Trogly
Scott grove has a lot of love for these guitars. And I can see why good tuners, good pups and a good bridge
@Harry. B. Renner. jr. hate is really a broad term if you can make money off of it somehow 😆
I think the triangular deep "under the pots" was made to accomodate the 5 position blade switch of the Corvus 3.
I love this model so much I built myself a copy (can't find em down Under to my knowledge)!
I’d like to see more of that red Custom you crammed in the case at the end.
I like that wrap around tailpiece/bridge design, its a shame they didnt come up with something like a tremolo where you could put the "tailpiece" onto a spring like a maestro vibrola and have a tremolo but then be able to convert back without even completely undoing the strings.
Have you seen the Miyavi Telecaster? I'm so hyped for it! Hope you can get one to document.
did gibson buy steinberger after this attempt? actually a killer sounding guitar i thought
I love you did this review Austin 🤣 that guitar is everything I hate in a guitar but man it’s still kind of cool LOL
I think Elliot Easton from The Cars played one. Who also had a Gibson model of his own, a Les Paul maybe? Chime in Austin, I’m sure you already know the model and year if I’m correct or not lol!
@@DarttheLegend he’s played several Gibson’s and a few others I’m unsure of at this moment. But you might be correct about the SG being the one I’m thinking of. I saw him play with CCR back in the late 90s and he was playing a LP most of the show. They played “just what I needed” as an encore. It was actually a really good show. Tom fogerty almost sounds exactlyline John and Elliot was awesome playing lead.
I believe Elliot Easton has two Gibson Signature models, a SG and a Firebird that Gibson renamed the "Tikibird".
BTW, the "Tikibird" has dual 57 Classic Humbuckers and 4 additional switches to control the pickups configuration.
@@hkguitar1984 gonna have to look that up. It’s sounds like a guitar I’d be interested in! I like the ones with goofy switching and tonal options. Most of my guitars have been modded in some fashion like that. Working on a Firefly tele right now with esquire wiring on the bridge pup and a wide range in the neck with jaguar style switches for phase reverse and coil split (obviously it’s not a CuNiFe it’s the modern iteration) I forget how many tonal options it’ll have when it’s done but I have fun with em and eventually sell it to finance another. The ones that end up striking a chord with me are the ones that stay in my collection lol until the wife says there’s too many guitars in the house!
@@hkguitar1984 holy crap. I’ve wanted another firebird since I sold my Epiphone 300 and this is it. I sold that one with the intent on getting a Gibson and now I know which one I desire! Thanks man. I feel like we’ve met on UA-cam guitar talk before. Until the next time my friend!
If you can track down the headless prototype (or at least photos of it) that would be a great WYRON episode.
Good call
I'm going to risk looking stupid on your comment thread ( sorry, you seemed tolerant) . What does WYRON mean? See it in association with Trogly's episodes, but I've been slow to ask.
@@saltpeter7429 Would You Rock Or Not
@@saltpeter7429 Would You Rock Or Not
I think that body shape, in original format without the headstock, would've made for a very interesting bass design/shape.
I actually love the look of the futura and the corvus
I own a Bunker 1978 Pro Star, which I think was the first headless electric guitar. It has a removable "Gumby" head stock which is there to make the guitar look more normal. I know Ann Wilson of Heart played one.
"Doofy looking" = cheap looking. Or, at the very least, NOT what you'd shop Gibson for. It brings to mind another brand's "travel" guitar. That design guy looks like a young Magnum PI. Thanks for explaining the design. That actually made sense. Too bad what was supposed to be a "headless" guitar, this baby ended up with one of Gibson's biggest. I love the bridge / tailpiece. It certainly didn't effect the sound any. I think if Gibson gave it straight Les Paul hardware, it would have had a better asking price and collector's value.
Tim Kasher plays a vintage one of these on stage with the band Cursive.
Interested in a Futura-II, set neck 2-pickup. Got to save the dough!
Scott Grove loves these things. He had a big collection of them.
That threw me off because I thought there was a futura already so I'm glad u mentioned that
I found myself wondering if the correct plural is "corvuses" or "corvi" lol
A Murder of Corvuses
@@TheGregcellent ha! Well played
@@TheGregcellent LMAO. I get it.
Covid
I find the name really funny because the Gibson Explorer was originally called the Futura before being tweaked and altered to become the Explorer we all know. They actually made a few Futuras in the original proto-Explorer shape.
Is it just my phone? Or is the audio messing up?? A bit laggy great video anyhoo fella and hello from Wales..⚡🐉⚡
Imagine Trogly creating a Corvus using the Made 2 Measure program. Throw some weird pickups (like the jazzmaster) and make it silverburst 🤯🤯
The story of the marketing people messing this up reminds me of a story from the mid 80s. Martyn Booth worked for Gibson based in the UK. He came up with the concept of putting a nice top on a S335 plus a trem and everyone who saw it loved it. Except Gibson's marketing people.
Come NAMM a bloke from Maryland launches his range and everyone falls in love with the PRS Custom. A double cutaway guitar with a nice top and a trem. Gibson were pushing a tweaked victory superstrat style thing.
Booth later made his concept with Yamaha (who themselves had turned PRS down in '83) and now makes a range of guitars under his own name. IMO his version of a one pickup DC special is the best you can get.
The reason there's a gap in the finish like that is because there's normally a piece of masking tape there that's finished over. I can't say if that's true for EVERY Corvus, but my silver Corvus 2 still has the tape in the exact same spot. Also, that bridge is the Schaller 455 and the brass saddles are actually just gold-plated.
Wow I haven't seen that Corvus ad since 10th grade. Yes he certainly is rocking out, in a budget kinda way. What a shame to not of been headless, and ahead of it's time.
What’s that music in the background around 5:30 in the vid? I like it, it’s very nice and kinda reminds me of a magical Christmas movie or something
I cut both the front horns off my Warlock along with a cut straight across the top to even with the back point, changed out the pickups to more of a Paf style for a travel guitar, looks just like it Lol.
I think these are great. Gibson has been making the exact same things with slight changes over and over for years. It's nice to see that they can make something out of the ordinary. They should do it more often. Like more serious metal axes, PLEASE!
I love these things and your price is super reasonable. If I wasn’t broke from covid I would buy for sure lol
The should have done a test run of headless bolt on necks versions. that way the could have done what they did anyway and used the headless necks for a later headless series of any shape. I suggest the square \ rectangle Bo Diddly but smaller with different types of tuners.
BTW those black plastic Lawrence pickups are very nice sounding.
I'd love to see Epiphone reissue these, perhaps with a Wilshire headstock.
Fucking. No.
@@SquishyRed1 Fucking. Yes.
Those cheap, rare-ish 90s red label, ibanez ex necks were one peice maple. They were so sweet....oh yeah, solid maple body too. The best mod platform. Check em out, like 1or200 bux, gut the thing, keep body and neck and put your parts on.
To be honest I always liked the Corvus, the body style looks so cool
Ovation at the same time made a very similar looking guitar I can't remember what it was called but I remember in about 91 I worked in a little music shop and they had one it felt like a super heavy hunk of junk I'm sure it wasn't but that just my memory of it but yeah Ovation had a very similar body style and model of electric guitar
IMO the headstock is beautiful, straight string pull! I'd definately rock this🎸🤘
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Corvus encompaces a range of birds from the Jack door to the Magpie, Crow, Ravens and Rooks, they are all Corvids and so are of the Corvus strain. I think their cool. I have a black 66 Trini Lopez for $4000 in extra super condition.
This was a good one. Thank you.
They could have put the bottom strap button at the crow's wing than the head. I have been interested in that kind of guitar since Guitar Hero. That guitar is easy to use that could have been part of the Designer series.
12:51 "It's COMPLETELY straight!"
Well, I know what guitar I *wouldn't* be now lmao
@Harry. B. Renner. jr. plus tilt back hs if I saw that correctly, they learned from jackson
i agree with many of the other comments. these are actually pretty damn cool guitars!
Remove upper strap button, tie strap to headstock like an acoustic. You wont look any weirded than you did to begin with... because it's a Corvus either way.
You’re the Doug DeMuro of the guitar world and that’s what I appreciates about you
I like it. It's very unique looking. You know how axe is a slang term for guitar? The body of it looks like the blade of an axe.
Welcome back, chocolate ice!
By looking at the grain and the neck pocket crack i think this is a basswood body, that's how it looks to me at least.
I remember these from then. Can Opener is my first thought (this makes the Moderne look like Marilyn Monroe).
ha, almost bought a Sonix back then in late '81. A flat black LP shape, bolt on made out of compressed wood chips with a funky pick guard.
Bought a Matsumoku built Aria Pro II Cardinal CS250 (had to look it up, long time ago). Loved it but it broke strings like crazy.
It was gone in a year. Who knows which would have been a better buy .
I think the way to get the best sounds out of a Corvus/Futura is to get in a car with your recording equipment get up to about 65/70 mph. Then throw it out the window and record the sound of it crashing on to the road
I had one back in the day and put a p-100 in it. It wasn’t bad. I can’t believe how much they go for these days.
I just picked up a2009 fender American deluxe stratocaster 2 tone next to mint with with the 3 latch hard shell case with fender strap n key for case .for 1250 canadian good deal or not?? Comments.
It's like Kramer's The Duke bass. I'd actually love to build a bass in this shape.
Have you tried the Fender Katana yet? It looks so weird when viewed displayed vertically in Fender literature, but far better in playing position. Weird looking, but still great playing and sounding 😎
"Let's go ahead, plug it in, and see how it sounds"
Magically appears with *another guitar*
I have wanted one of these guitars for like 15 years. But they are impossible to find and is way to high a price when I do see them. I love the looks of these. Even though they were so hated.
Reverb, eBay and mail forwarding can work wonders. That's how I got mine.
Man I always wanted one of these
damn i kinda like that bridge on the normal corvuses
I actually like it!
The guitarist from Odin (now Armored Saint) had this model back in 85.
I like it.would like to have one
The Corvus' nickname was ' The Bottle Opener'. I have a soft spot for this model .