I think it depends on the offset on the rims and the width of the tires. With 255 width - original springs and the offset mentioned in the video I had no rubbing. And almost no weight. So if you are planning a overland build you will need to get springs with higher load rating to to keep the clearance. Personally I loved my light camping setup on original springs. 👌
Perfect timing. I'm just about to order 255/85R16 with 16x8 and ET+8 for a 110 and was wondering if they'd fit on full articulation without a lift. And here you are explaining exactly what I needed. Thanks!
You are more than welcome. I thought this info was missing as well and the main reason for making this video. Glad it could be of help to you and I hope you will be happy with your new setup. 👍😁
Sadly my Defender is no more. Engine death and too many problems have sent it to another life. I so wanted to love it but it just let me down. Have bought a Hilux now. Time to experience that legendary reliability.
Simon. Your rig looks so great now. I have been running the KM2's for about 6.5 years now. love them. when i am off road i run 18psi in the front and 14-16 in the rear depending on how much stuff i have in the back. I have replaced mine twice in the last 6.5 years with an average 25,000 mi. per year. about 80 percent hyway,15 percent gravel, 5 percent harder off road. The only things i don't like. are they can be pretty slippery on icy roads, they tend to weather crack after about 2 seasons, but still runnable, and they are heavy compared to other mud tires so down on power a little. other than that i love mine. mine 33x12.5x15in. Have a great one.
Hey Tom and thank you. Yeah it really came to it's own with these new wheels and Tyres. Thanks for sharing your long experiences, best way for others to find out if it is a tyre for them. Slippery on ice, yeah, MT's should never be near any road with ice. :) I forgot to say it in this video but this setup is only for summer. I have proper nordic winter studded tires for winter. :) I did not think about checking the weigth, I need to do that. Weight is so important for us overlanders, we don't want to be over that limit. Thanks again and stay safe. Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive had the originals on there for about 5 years + replaced 2 years ago with the new Pro version, found them quieter than bfg mud terrains and they had a stiffer tyre wall which was good off road !!
Nice, good to know. Great with getting some feedback from others with other tires. All who read can learn and can make better choices for their tires. Stiffer sidewalls, better for offroad is noted. 👍🙂
Yes to the perfect tyres (I have 255/85R16 and have been running them since 2006 - first the KM and then the KM2 s). However I think they are best on genuine Wolf rims although I do have Modular’s too on another truck. The only problem with 255s is the price now…before Covid I paid £165 for a brand new one, now they have gone up to around £260!!
We are seeing the the same price rise here in Norway. I was lucky and got these second hand for just 500$ for the set of five. A steal. 😊I like both the wolf and modular, but favor the modular. I know Erik like the wolf ones better. I now drive on cooper st maxx on my Discovery. So far so good. 😊
This steel rims are great but make sure you spray them with anticorosion spray to protect them as they have tendency to show signs of rust pretty quickly. I actually prefere them on my 90 more than Wolf rims as they are nearly 40kg lighter.
Good tip, I have the same ones on my winter tires and they are starting to show some rust. With all the road salt used here in this area. I haven't checked the weight so that's a great point, thanks for sharing that. With overland builds weight is a big factor. Thanks for great tips and thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe if you haven't yet and have a great Sunday. 👍🙂
@Land Rover Drive I run 4.75 diffs and 1.22 transfer box. With 85s my gearing is about 80% of the original (high range...low range is 1: 405 vs std 1: 334) on 235/75r16. With 100s, high range is about 90% of original high range, and about 1: 3.80 so still lower than std. Brakes are the problem and I need something more powerful to stop the thing.
I also have the same model tyres bfg km2 mud terrains but in 265/75 r16, this is my second set of km2 the first set was in 285/75 r16, I find the slightly smaller size in 265 performs better off road than the 285. The 255 size must be really good 👍mileage i do is about 70% off road 30 on road. The only main weakness of the bfg km2 in my experience here in the African bush is the sidewalls tend to struggle with thorns or sharp rocks on rocky rutted tracks particularly after about 20,000 kilometres the sidewalls seem to weaken but the tracks and driving conditions here are very rough, just have to be careful where I drive, other than that a great tyre! BTW they look awesome on your defender with the black rims, they've really enhanced your landy, enjoyed the video 👌
Hey and thanks Will for a great review from your experience. We don't se as much stakes and sharp rocks here as almost everything is covered in green here in Norway. So really great comment for other to see and learn from. 255 is really good, and super stable on road. I don't know about super soft sand if maybe a wider set would be better to get a bigger floating area, for beach and sand dunes runs. We don't have those conditions here. But for mud and forest tracks the narrower tires seems to find their way down through the mud and find traction on harder soil further down. In deep snow as well, Ref, our deep snow video with Erik's RRC on STT pro's, the find tracktion down under the loose snow. The look is great, love the black wheels look, I feel you can't go wrong with black wheels. Glad you liked the video and thanks again for a great comment. Stay safe down there and enjoy your great tracks. We really are envious of that up here in Norway. 👍🙂
@@LandRoverDrive thanks for the reply, absolutely it's great to compare notes on the same tyres in different terrain in different parts of the world! I'm soon replacing my km2 set with a new set but this time getting the newer model bfg km3 mud terrains rather than km2's in 265/75..it will be interesting to see how the km3's do compared to the km2's, i think bfg claim a 27% stronger sidewall or somewhere around there on the km3 compared to km2, I suppose time will tell but if that's the case they should be slighlty more durable maybe😀 I've also had a set of bfg ko2 all terrains which are also a great choice. For an all terrain tyre they are an amazing all round performer but i like and prefer mud terrain tyres for where i am.. personally even in sand i wouldn't go wider, adding extra rolling resistance to a small 200tdi engine there's only so much one can ask out of a great but small engine..Yes Erik's range rover classic on those cooper stt pro's what a combination off road💪good tyres off road are definitely one of the best upgrades one can do to any 4x4 vehicle, Stay safe and looking forward to your next video release 👍🏼
Thanks man, glad to hear that. 👍🙂 I'll be looking into the KM3s my self when I go browsing for tyres for my Discovery 3. 🙂 Rolling resistance is also a good point. Stay safe and the next video is out. And part 2 will be out on Sunday so stay tuned. 🤙🙂
Hey Thomas, Says 33mm in the my Defender Data slate. Positive offset, the rim is further in over the hub, negative it's further out. So going from +33 to +8 the tyre will come further out. I have check multiple times now so should be correct with +33 for the original rims. I see 16"x10" rims having a negativ offset of -33. So if you are running a wide 35 you get the tire ruther out, to get a better turning circle. 🙂 Really love the look, and they work great for my driving style and the trips that we do. Thanks for watching Thomas, and I hope I'm correct with the offset. 😅
Tyres & wheels look very good on your 110 👍🏻. I always thought you'd go for muds rather than A/Ts Plus anything to help the 110's turning circle can't be bad, eh? 😀
Hehe, should maybe be called "half a truning circle". Compared to the Discovery 3 it's silly. But that said, the turning circle on the Discovery 3 is better then most cars. It surprises me regurarly. Defender is looking awesome and love it. Thanks Steve and stay safe. 🙂👍
🤙🙂 Yeah, tyres are quite expensive. And if you want a spare it really set you back. I looked for second hand ones and was lucky finding these. Problem is I now want new wheels and tyres on the Discovery. The wheels/rims on the Defender is not that expensive from the UK, the tyres will be the most expensive part.
Yeah, A wider stance is nice, but as you say, to a cirtain point. Nothing should stick out at least. :) Happy with how this setup were just on point. 👍🙂
Looks perfect in my opinion, sounds like the wheels perform well too. I would suggest doing some preventative measures to the engine to help it last a long time and a little more power/efficiency. Depends on the legalities in Norway too I guess ;)
Yeah, I really like the looks of them and they did performed better than expected. The engine is running good but I would have liked to had it fully serviced. I'm not sure about the rules, but I think you need to go and get the new HP checked and written into the cars data slate. And bigger brakes if you tune it a lot. But a mild tune won't be noticed by anyones so it's pretty safe to do. But wont be a full blown popcorn popping tune, that's for sure.
@@LandRoverDrive What about removing the EGR and adding a catch can and bigger intercooler? You could put a straight through exhaust too and remove the cat if it has one.. all rather illegal of course
Not sure I have a cat at all. Got the middle pipe in the garage. :) The EGR was off but got a MOT failure, so I put it back on. Could take it of again but did not bother. There is a lot I would like to do, and many things illegal, but need to keep it legal because of all the filming. Hard to argue against the video proof, hehe. Will see what will happend with the Defender this year. It will take the backseat for a while as I will focus a bit more on the Discovery 3 and overland trips. I would like to do a EGR delete and remap on that as well. Going from 190hp to 230hp maybe. More like the D4 has. The good thing is that I haven't tested a D4 yet so I don't know what I'm missing out on yet. :)
Hey and thanks Grahame! 😉 Discovery 2, that's Hans Jakob. He has joined us on a couple of trips. Haven't spoken with him in a while but would love to go on a trip with him again. Will check up on him and his Discovery 2. I like the Disco 2, and of late I have thought that the pre new lights version looks the best. TD5 or V8 is the big question.. :)
@@LandRoverDrive It’s a V8. Less hassle with maintenance costs, dirty fuel etc. I concur that I use more fuel but I save on needing less fuel filters etc. Besides, it didn’t cost much to deplete savings nor cause me to get a bank loan. Any diesel owner who paid a fortune for a new LR AND had to get a loan should not tell me I’m crazy for running a petrol V8!
I would have gone for the V8 too. 😀 In the long run I think it will cost less because of expensive engine failures. Or at least cost the same. There are almost no V8's here in Norway, most are diesel. I have been looking at a LR3, changing out the D3. :) I think I need to own a V8 once, and now with more and more restrictions on cars I think I have to do it sooner than later. 😅 All LR owners are crazy, but in a good way.
Do the rims come with a certification concerning load capacity? The "modulars" and "8 spokes" ( "some call they "Mangels", look like the Dotz Dakar rims) for Defenders which I found in UK, miss the certification and therefore, I have no idea to keep the vehicle road legal (MOT) in Germany. How is this in N? I have the BFG MD in 265 75-R16. They are terrible on tarmac. I am looking for 255 85 R16 for my 109 S 3 ex- mod, preferred fitted to classic 6.5x16 ET 20.6, but they are vanished.
What wheels did you use specifically for your 110. I am having a hard time finding any I like, but I like what you have, but have not been able to find what they are or where you sourced them.
Thank you Land Rover Drive. I've been looking for new wheels and rims for quite some time. When you you quote an offset of 8, exactly what do you mean. I've been looking at rims where they quote an ET figure, usually as a positive or a negative, but measured in millimetres. eg ET-40, ET0 or ET+60 etc. how does the "8" relate to this please. The reason I ask is that in the UK they don't like the wheel/rim to protrude beyond the arches too much.
Hey Gary, if you google offset you can get some good drawings to explain it all. But + offset mean the wheel will sit further in. Original offset on a defender i +33. So with +8 the whill will stick further out like they do with this setup. You can go further and og to negative offset but then you will have the weels stick way out. With the orignal alloy wheels I had, with a 1" spacer, they came out about the same as my wintery tyres setup with. You need to think about the wheel size as well, if you go with a wider tire you need less offset to not protrude beyond the arches, but with that in mind you get a worse turning circle. Wich tires are you thinking of getting?
I run 235/85R16 KM2s on Wolf rims on my 110, very good tyres for mud use but I use 7.50R16 Michelin all terrains for longer road biased trips. Our works Defenders run 265/75R16 KM3s which I don't think are as good on the road, especially in the wet, but they are still a good mud tyre.
Oh, I forgot to add - going from the KM2s to the Michelins raised my fuel economy by almost 20%, you will probably find you use a bit more fuel, although your size increase might make it a bit less.
Thanks for sharing! Looks like you got it all sorted. I like the narrower look on the defender with the classic clean rims. Wolf rims are great, and I think they are legal when it comes to offset too. Erik got wolf rims with his new tires on his Defender before he sold it. Looked great. 265/75 is getting a bit chunky and I would guess, as you say, not the best for onroad driving. I think the narrow 255 makes it more stable and was surpriced how well it worked on road. I did not think about checking fuel, did not notice the difference, but as you say, I guess it would be about the same. Chunkier tiers but bigger size compensating for that. All good points, thanks you for a great comment. Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive You're very welcome. I don't know about legalities as I think the UK is more relaxed about that, in any case I ordered my 110 on wolf rims from the factory. The michelins are on standard wheels which look a bit "feeble" but do a good job. Either of them are preferable to the 900x16 crossplies on my IIA though 🤣
Haha, but would have been fun to see. With som proper old classic mud tires. IIA, thats nice. Series cars are becoming rear and I can see they are rising in value each year. Like the RRC 2 door.
Hi mate how do they go on the 8 inch wide rims when you let them down low have you had any dramas with them popping off the bead at 7 inch rims are optimal for these apparently
Hey Sam, I'm not going to find out. 🙂 MT tires are dangerous on hard packed snow, +2 to -3*C, and ice. I would not recommend it for anyone. Winter tires are the way to go, and studded if you can. You can get away with some AT tires if they are brand new, M+S marked and you clean them often. But only for the first winter season. Need to buy them in the fall. And need to have some snow chains as a backup. But why not just get winter tires then. :) Cheaper and safer, even the ones without studs. How's the Hankook studded tires holding up?
@@LandRoverDrive The Hannooks are working pretty good I’d consider them a poor man’s Nokians. Very similar tread design to the hakkapeliittas. Just not quite as many studs in the center area of the tire. Considering they are half the price I’m really happy with them and the local tire shop had them in stock. I would have had to wait about a week for the nokians.
I think it depends on how much driving too. A studded tire should be replaced either way in 3-5 years as the rubber gets old and amount of studs gets fewer. So it could be wiser to pick a cheaper tire and replace them more often than go for the more expencive tires. I will run mine for 5 seasons if the amount of studs is enough. I spend more money on tires on the cars where the children will be in and the car my wife will drive then on the Defender where I'm driving alone. But non the less, don't skip on safety, and you can feel if a tire is good or bad pretty fast when the winter comes. I always do some testdriving when the first snow and Ice comes. Just replace new winter studded tires on my wifes car. :)
@@LandRoverDrive I agree. I gave away some cooper studded snow tires that were probably 8 years old. The guy was going to pull the studs out and use them as summer tires on his pick up truck. They still looked almost new but my Defender has always been a spare/fun car and not my daily driver.
It’s the standard suspension, but remember I was running very light, almost no weight even when I was overlanding. If you have a big overland build in mind I would fit the tires, do the build and then do the suspension. Either stiffer original height or a one inch lift if you wanted a lift. Just new original springs can lift the car if you have old springs.
@@LandRoverDrive thanks for your answer! It’s for light running, I want just to change my tire 265/75/16 BF Goodrich T/A by 265/85/16 in mud terrain or STT Pro…
@@controleunit6036 okay, not sure if they will runb or not on flex, I guess they will. Maybe see if you can find someone running with that setup. I know they use 35” on the defender but I’m not sure if you have to lift it to make it fit properly. 🤔
255/85R16 is around a 33” tire. Not 235/85. And there is also some difference between each tire manufacturers. So a Cooper tire can be slightly bigger or smaller than a BFGoodrich tire. There are tire calculators online which you can use to find out what your tire is in inches, or form inches to mm. 👍😁 Hope that helps.
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BEST SETUP or ?? Let me know what you think.! Have a great weekend! Best, Simon. 🤙😀. REUPLOAD WITH A FIX..
Good to know! For some reason I thought most people got a lift in order to fit a 33” tire without rubbing.
I think it depends on the offset on the rims and the width of the tires. With 255 width - original springs and the offset mentioned in the video I had no rubbing. And almost no weight. So if you are planning a overland build you will need to get springs with higher load rating to to keep the clearance. Personally I loved my light camping setup on original springs. 👌
Perfect timing. I'm just about to order 255/85R16 with 16x8 and ET+8 for a 110 and was wondering if they'd fit on full articulation without a lift. And here you are explaining exactly what I needed. Thanks!
You are more than welcome. I thought this info was missing as well and the main reason for making this video. Glad it could be of help to you and I hope you will be happy with your new setup. 👍😁
Sadly my Defender is no more. Engine death and too many problems have sent it to another life. I so wanted to love it but it just let me down. Have bought a Hilux now. Time to experience that legendary reliability.
Simon. Your rig looks so great now. I have been running the KM2's for about 6.5 years now. love them. when i am off road i run 18psi in the front and 14-16 in the rear depending on how much stuff i have in the back. I have replaced mine twice in the last 6.5 years with an average 25,000 mi. per year. about 80 percent hyway,15 percent gravel, 5 percent harder off road. The only things i don't like. are they can be pretty slippery on icy roads, they tend to weather crack after about 2 seasons, but still runnable, and they are heavy compared to other mud tires so down on power a little. other than that i love mine. mine 33x12.5x15in. Have a great one.
Hey Tom and thank you. Yeah it really came to it's own with these new wheels and Tyres. Thanks for sharing your long experiences, best way for others to find out if it is a tyre for them. Slippery on ice, yeah, MT's should never be near any road with ice. :) I forgot to say it in this video but this setup is only for summer. I have proper nordic winter studded tires for winter. :) I did not think about checking the weigth, I need to do that. Weight is so important for us overlanders, we don't want to be over that limit. Thanks again and stay safe. Simon.
Thinking of fitting these on my Land Cruiser 76 series wear out. Looks awesome.
76 series looks so cool. 👌👌 Think the km3’s would be a great choice and look great as well. 😊
@@LandRoverDrive yeah, for sure. It would really stand out since most folks here prefer the looks of big and chunky
Great new wheel set up ! Running 285/75/16 Cooper Discoverer STT’s on mine !
Yeah really happy with it. 🙂 And nice, I have looked at those tires as well. Looks like a great tire. Happy with them?
@@LandRoverDrive had the originals on there for about 5 years + replaced 2 years ago with the new Pro version, found them quieter than bfg mud terrains and they had a stiffer tyre wall which was good off road !!
Nice, good to know. Great with getting some feedback from others with other tires. All who read can learn and can make better choices for their tires. Stiffer sidewalls, better for offroad is noted. 👍🙂
Yes to the perfect tyres (I have 255/85R16 and have been running them since 2006 - first the KM and then the KM2 s).
However I think they are best on genuine Wolf rims although I do have Modular’s too on another truck.
The only problem with 255s is the price now…before Covid I paid £165 for a brand new one, now they have gone up to around £260!!
We are seeing the the same price rise here in Norway. I was lucky and got these second hand for just 500$ for the set of five. A steal. 😊I like both the wolf and modular, but favor the modular. I know Erik like the wolf ones better. I now drive on cooper st maxx on my Discovery. So far so good. 😊
This steel rims are great but make sure you spray them with anticorosion spray to protect them as they have tendency to show signs of rust pretty quickly. I actually prefere them on my 90 more than Wolf rims as they are nearly 40kg lighter.
Good tip, I have the same ones on my winter tires and they are starting to show some rust. With all the road salt used here in this area. I haven't checked the weight so that's a great point, thanks for sharing that. With overland builds weight is a big factor. Thanks for great tips and thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe if you haven't yet and have a great Sunday. 👍🙂
Great combo. I have now gone 255/100 r16 Michelin...I'd never go wider, just taller for my use.
Thanks, how’s the gearing with the 100? The 85 was just low enough not to still be nice off-road. 🤓
@Land Rover Drive I run 4.75 diffs and 1.22 transfer box. With 85s my gearing is about 80% of the original (high range...low range is 1: 405 vs std 1: 334) on 235/75r16. With 100s, high range is about 90% of original high range, and about 1: 3.80 so still lower than std. Brakes are the problem and I need something more powerful to stop the thing.
I also have the same model tyres bfg km2 mud terrains but in 265/75 r16, this is my second set of km2 the first set was in 285/75 r16, I find the slightly smaller size in 265 performs better off road than the 285. The 255 size must be really good 👍mileage i do is about 70% off road 30 on road. The only main weakness of the bfg km2 in my experience here in the African bush is the sidewalls tend to struggle with thorns or sharp rocks on rocky rutted tracks particularly after about 20,000 kilometres the sidewalls seem to weaken but the tracks and driving conditions here are very rough, just have to be careful where I drive, other than that a great tyre! BTW they look awesome on your defender with the black rims, they've really enhanced your landy, enjoyed the video 👌
Hey and thanks Will for a great review from your experience. We don't se as much stakes and sharp rocks here as almost everything is covered in green here in Norway. So really great comment for other to see and learn from. 255 is really good, and super stable on road. I don't know about super soft sand if maybe a wider set would be better to get a bigger floating area, for beach and sand dunes runs. We don't have those conditions here. But for mud and forest tracks the narrower tires seems to find their way down through the mud and find traction on harder soil further down. In deep snow as well, Ref, our deep snow video with Erik's RRC on STT pro's, the find tracktion down under the loose snow. The look is great, love the black wheels look, I feel you can't go wrong with black wheels. Glad you liked the video and thanks again for a great comment. Stay safe down there and enjoy your great tracks. We really are envious of that up here in Norway. 👍🙂
@@LandRoverDrive thanks for the reply, absolutely it's great to compare notes on the same tyres in different terrain in different parts of the world! I'm soon replacing my km2 set with a new set but this time getting the newer model bfg km3 mud terrains rather than km2's in 265/75..it will be interesting to see how the km3's do compared to the km2's, i think bfg claim a 27% stronger sidewall or somewhere around there on the km3 compared to km2, I suppose time will tell but if that's the case they should be slighlty more durable maybe😀 I've also had a set of bfg ko2 all terrains which are also a great choice. For an all terrain tyre they are an amazing all round performer but i like and prefer mud terrain tyres for where i am.. personally even in sand i wouldn't go wider, adding extra rolling resistance to a small 200tdi engine there's only so much one can ask out of a great but small engine..Yes Erik's range rover classic on those cooper stt pro's what a combination off road💪good tyres off road are definitely one of the best upgrades one can do to any 4x4 vehicle, Stay safe and looking forward to your next video release 👍🏼
Thanks man, glad to hear that. 👍🙂 I'll be looking into the KM3s my self when I go browsing for tyres for my Discovery 3. 🙂 Rolling resistance is also a good point. Stay safe and the next video is out. And part 2 will be out on Sunday so stay tuned. 🤙🙂
They do look great.
Thanks, really pleased with the look. :)
Very good and in depth info! Exactly what I need. I'm considering same size tires. Perhaps KM3 🤔 Cheers 👍🏻
Yeah, I would go for the km3 if I was buying new ones. 👍 Glad the video could help out, exactly why I made it. Thought this kind of video was missing.
@@LandRoverDrive I'm always in between 235/85 (skinny 32), 265/75 (wider 32) and 255/85 (taller 33) 🤔
@@LandRoverDrive I presume I'd go for the "deal", as tyres are very expensive
Original rim offset is -33, not + 33? The size and looks are perfect for the defender by the way😎
Hey Thomas, Says 33mm in the my Defender Data slate. Positive offset, the rim is further in over the hub, negative it's further out. So going from +33 to +8 the tyre will come further out. I have check multiple times now so should be correct with +33 for the original rims. I see 16"x10" rims having a negativ offset of -33. So if you are running a wide 35 you get the tire ruther out, to get a better turning circle. 🙂 Really love the look, and they work great for my driving style and the trips that we do. Thanks for watching Thomas, and I hope I'm correct with the offset. 😅
Tyres & wheels look very good on your 110 👍🏻. I always thought you'd go for muds rather than A/Ts Plus anything to help the 110's turning circle can't be bad, eh? 😀
Hehe, should maybe be called "half a truning circle". Compared to the Discovery 3 it's silly. But that said, the turning circle on the Discovery 3 is better then most cars. It surprises me regurarly. Defender is looking awesome and love it. Thanks Steve and stay safe. 🙂👍
What is the best size of tyres for defender 110 255/85 /16 or 265/75/16 or 285/75/16 which one?
Fantastic, got to start saving.
🤙🙂 Yeah, tyres are quite expensive. And if you want a spare it really set you back. I looked for second hand ones and was lucky finding these. Problem is I now want new wheels and tyres on the Discovery. The wheels/rims on the Defender is not that expensive from the UK, the tyres will be the most expensive part.
Looks really nice!
Yeah, love the look of them now. Not Unimog big but a decent size. 😀👍
@@LandRoverDrive I like your tires because they are still not to width. I dont really like the wide tire look on defenders and similar cars
Yeah, A wider stance is nice, but as you say, to a cirtain point. Nothing should stick out at least. :) Happy with how this setup were just on point. 👍🙂
Looks perfect in my opinion, sounds like the wheels perform well too. I would suggest doing some preventative measures to the engine to help it last a long time and a little more power/efficiency. Depends on the legalities in Norway too I guess ;)
Yeah, I really like the looks of them and they did performed better than expected. The engine is running good but I would have liked to had it fully serviced. I'm not sure about the rules, but I think you need to go and get the new HP checked and written into the cars data slate. And bigger brakes if you tune it a lot. But a mild tune won't be noticed by anyones so it's pretty safe to do. But wont be a full blown popcorn popping tune, that's for sure.
@@LandRoverDrive What about removing the EGR and adding a catch can and bigger intercooler? You could put a straight through exhaust too and remove the cat if it has one.. all rather illegal of course
Not sure I have a cat at all. Got the middle pipe in the garage. :) The EGR was off but got a MOT failure, so I put it back on. Could take it of again but did not bother. There is a lot I would like to do, and many things illegal, but need to keep it legal because of all the filming. Hard to argue against the video proof, hehe. Will see what will happend with the Defender this year. It will take the backseat for a while as I will focus a bit more on the Discovery 3 and overland trips. I would like to do a EGR delete and remap on that as well. Going from 190hp to 230hp maybe. More like the D4 has. The good thing is that I haven't tested a D4 yet so I don't know what I'm missing out on yet. :)
@@LandRoverDrive no CAT for the P10 td5 engine ;) But a catch can would do you good ;)
@Erik Iversen For sure! :)
Looks perfect, makes it look more aggressive.
Thanks man. :) And yeah it really looks like it's ready for some off-road now. 👍🙂
Ask whomever owns the Discovery 2 to go with you on your next adventure. I own a 2002 Disco early model. Cheers 🥂🙏🏽🙏🏽😷🦘🦘
Hey and thanks Grahame! 😉 Discovery 2, that's Hans Jakob. He has joined us on a couple of trips. Haven't spoken with him in a while but would love to go on a trip with him again. Will check up on him and his Discovery 2. I like the Disco 2, and of late I have thought that the pre new lights version looks the best. TD5 or V8 is the big question.. :)
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It’s a V8. Less hassle with maintenance costs, dirty fuel etc. I concur that I use more fuel but I save on needing less fuel filters etc. Besides, it didn’t cost much to deplete savings nor cause me to get a bank loan. Any diesel owner who paid a fortune for a new LR AND had to get a loan should not tell me I’m crazy for running a petrol V8!
I would have gone for the V8 too. 😀 In the long run I think it will cost less because of expensive engine failures. Or at least cost the same. There are almost no V8's here in Norway, most are diesel. I have been looking at a LR3, changing out the D3. :) I think I need to own a V8 once, and now with more and more restrictions on cars I think I have to do it sooner than later. 😅 All LR owners are crazy, but in a good way.
About time!😉😃 I ran the same tires on my old Defender back in the day on Wolf rims...😎
Yeah, It really took some time to get them on.. To bad the Defender is showing some old man syndroms....
@@LandRoverDrive it probably wants to be part of more garage videos... :D
Hehe, A whole garage series on it's own.
Do the rims come with a certification concerning load capacity? The "modulars" and "8 spokes" ( "some call they "Mangels", look like the Dotz Dakar rims) for Defenders which I found in UK, miss the certification and therefore, I have no idea to keep the vehicle road legal (MOT) in Germany. How is this in N? I have the BFG MD in 265 75-R16. They are terrible on tarmac. I am looking for 255 85 R16 for my 109 S 3 ex- mod, preferred fitted to classic 6.5x16 ET 20.6, but they are vanished.
What wheels did you use specifically for your 110. I am having a hard time finding any I like, but I like what you have, but have not been able to find what they are or where you sourced them.
Hi, any suspension upgrades? if not.... any scrub?
alrite got it at the end... all stock suspension set up
Yeah, no scrub that I noticed but I had almost no weight in the car so that’s something to think about. 👍😊
Thank you Land Rover Drive. I've been looking for new wheels and rims for quite some time. When you you quote an offset of 8, exactly what do you mean. I've been looking at rims where they quote an ET figure, usually as a positive or a negative, but measured in millimetres. eg ET-40, ET0 or ET+60 etc. how does the "8" relate to this please. The reason I ask is that in the UK they don't like the wheel/rim to protrude beyond the arches too much.
Hey Gary, if you google offset you can get some good drawings to explain it all. But + offset mean the wheel will sit further in. Original offset on a defender i +33. So with +8 the whill will stick further out like they do with this setup. You can go further and og to negative offset but then you will have the weels stick way out. With the orignal alloy wheels I had, with a 1" spacer, they came out about the same as my wintery tyres setup with. You need to think about the wheel size as well, if you go with a wider tire you need less offset to not protrude beyond the arches, but with that in mind you get a worse turning circle. Wich tires are you thinking of getting?
I run 235/85R16 KM2s on Wolf rims on my 110, very good tyres for mud use but I use 7.50R16 Michelin all terrains for longer road biased trips. Our works Defenders run 265/75R16 KM3s which I don't think are as good on the road, especially in the wet, but they are still a good mud tyre.
Oh, I forgot to add - going from the KM2s to the Michelins raised my fuel economy by almost 20%, you will probably find you use a bit more fuel, although your size increase might make it a bit less.
Thanks for sharing! Looks like you got it all sorted. I like the narrower look on the defender with the classic clean rims. Wolf rims are great, and I think they are legal when it comes to offset too. Erik got wolf rims with his new tires on his Defender before he sold it. Looked great. 265/75 is getting a bit chunky and I would guess, as you say, not the best for onroad driving. I think the narrow 255 makes it more stable and was surpriced how well it worked on road. I did not think about checking fuel, did not notice the difference, but as you say, I guess it would be about the same. Chunkier tiers but bigger size compensating for that. All good points, thanks you for a great comment. Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive You're very welcome. I don't know about legalities as I think the UK is more relaxed about that, in any case I ordered my 110 on wolf rims from the factory. The michelins are on standard wheels which look a bit "feeble" but do a good job. Either of them are preferable to the 900x16 crossplies on my IIA though 🤣
Haha, but would have been fun to see. With som proper old classic mud tires. IIA, thats nice. Series cars are becoming rear and I can see they are rising in value each year. Like the RRC 2 door.
@@LandRoverDrive The bulk of my channel features my IIA, take a look 👍
Hi mate how do they go on the 8 inch wide rims when you let them down low have you had any dramas with them popping off the bead at 7 inch rims are optimal for these apparently
Running 255/85r16 on a 16x8 is not smart, when these tyres should be 16x7 for that width and profile percentage.
How will they do in the ice. I use Patagonia MT for summer tires and Hannook Ipikes studded tires for winter.
Hey Sam, I'm not going to find out. 🙂 MT tires are dangerous on hard packed snow, +2 to -3*C, and ice. I would not recommend it for anyone. Winter tires are the way to go, and studded if you can. You can get away with some AT tires if they are brand new, M+S marked and you clean them often. But only for the first winter season. Need to buy them in the fall. And need to have some snow chains as a backup. But why not just get winter tires then. :) Cheaper and safer, even the ones without studs. How's the Hankook studded tires holding up?
@@LandRoverDrive The Hannooks are working pretty good I’d consider them a poor man’s Nokians. Very similar tread design to the hakkapeliittas. Just not quite as many studs in the center area of the tire. Considering they are half the price I’m really happy with them and the local tire shop had them in stock. I would have had to wait about a week for the nokians.
I think it depends on how much driving too. A studded tire should be replaced either way in 3-5 years as the rubber gets old and amount of studs gets fewer. So it could be wiser to pick a cheaper tire and replace them more often than go for the more expencive tires. I will run mine for 5 seasons if the amount of studs is enough. I spend more money on tires on the cars where the children will be in and the car my wife will drive then on the Defender where I'm driving alone. But non the less, don't skip on safety, and you can feel if a tire is good or bad pretty fast when the winter comes. I always do some testdriving when the first snow and Ice comes. Just replace new winter studded tires on my wifes car. :)
@@LandRoverDrive I agree. I gave away some cooper studded snow tires that were probably 8 years old. The guy was going to pull the studs out and use them as summer tires on his pick up truck. They still looked almost new but my Defender has always been a spare/fun car and not my daily driver.
Yeah, 8 years is pushing it. 🙂 But good others can use them as it's a shame to throw away tyres that is usable for other conditions.
Did you change the suspension bécote to place this tires ? I have 265/75/16…
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It’s the standard suspension, but remember I was running very light, almost no weight even when I was overlanding. If you have a big overland build in mind I would fit the tires, do the build and then do the suspension. Either stiffer original height or a one inch lift if you wanted a lift. Just new original springs can lift the car if you have old springs.
@@LandRoverDrive thanks for your answer!
It’s for light running, I want just to change my tire 265/75/16 BF Goodrich T/A by 265/85/16 in mud terrain or STT Pro…
@@controleunit6036 okay, not sure if they will runb or not on flex, I guess they will. Maybe see if you can find someone running with that setup. I know they use 35” on the defender but I’m not sure if you have to lift it to make it fit properly. 🤔
Hi does this mean all tyres that are 235/85/16 will be 33" inches in diameter?
255/85R16 is around a 33” tire. Not 235/85. And there is also some difference between each tire manufacturers. So a Cooper tire can be slightly bigger or smaller than a BFGoodrich tire. There are tire calculators online which you can use to find out what your tire is in inches, or form inches to mm. 👍😁 Hope that helps.
@@LandRoverDrive thanks for the help 👍
Happy top help! 👍🙂
Is it the stock suspension here? Does wheel fit well into the arc still?
Oh got it at the end
Hehe, good you got it. Biggest tire with the best fit I think. 👍🙂
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Comfort tyre
Hehe, depends. But for overlanding first it's the perfect tyre, as you say, it has some comfort to it when driving. Rolling light and easy to turn. 👍🙂
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