Many thanks for your help in this matter! After all of these years, the issues related with LG UltraFine (and now Apple Studio Display) still persist. Thanks to you and many other UA-cam channels (and all people around the Internet forums and message boards) we can say that we have finally found a group of solutions (so that we can tell it finally works). I have recently made a comment on a UA-cam video. And I would like to share the basic steps that I have elaborated there so that it can reach many more people looking after some sort of solution. Note 1: LG UltraFine 1st iterations differ vastly from the latter versions. My comments are based on the second variations of the same product line. If you have the first iterations, I highly recommend looking for a Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) PCie card. This might change in the future once USB4 (with necessary video signal and data transmission) standards are applied on the future products. Note 2: LG UltraFine 5K (2nd iteration) differs slightly from its 4K brother (2nd version). UltraFine 5K requires Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) PCie card if you want full 5K resolution. Otherwise, it will be limited to 4K. This might be an issue since you will suffer from lack of sharpness and proper scaling; and, hence, you will not get desired experience. Here is the comment that I have made on video entitled, "Windows PC to Apple Studio Display - Will it work?" by 6 Months Later Reviews. In my understanding, Apple Studio Display is more like the “infamous” LG UltraFine 4K (24-inch) and 5K (second version) monitors that were lined up next to Apple computers. Just like LG’s UltraFine lineup, Mac Studio Display will behave nicely if you manage to send video and data signals from the same cable. Both Huawei and Belkin’s charge and sync cable for Huawei’s VR Glass do a great job when it comes to catering for those in this scenario. It is simple, plug & play. Unlike a Thunderbolt 3 & 4 add-on card, you are free from all the hiccups that come with software issues. Brightness, audio and additional USB ports also work very well. The only downside is you are limited to USB 2.0 on those USB ports. The second alternative is Club 3D’s “CAC 1332” HDMI cable. From my readings through the Internet, this cable might have a second iteration that does not have a USB additional data cable anymore. So, be cautious. But the first iteration works like charm without any hiccups. If you happen to have a Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X or S, or Playstation 5, you are good to go with this cable. For those PC users also, this cable will work very well. There is one downside though. You can no longer access to USB ports (so you are limited to audio). There are additional fourth and fifth alternative solutions that can actually help (if you are a desktop PC user). If you have a compatible motherboard, you can attach a Thunderbolt card. Unfortunately, not all computers are Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) compatible, so you might be out of luck. In the fourth and the last alternative, you use Delock 89582 PCI Express Card. This card is a re-branded version of Sunix UPD2018 in the EU market. Unfortunately, I do not have enough information about this product. In summary, Apple Studio Display will only come into your use if you go through these alternative solutions. If you are already a Mac user, and you really want to make this kind of monitors work, here is your endeavor waiting for you. But if you are a PC user, I do not recommend USB-C only monitors at all. They do not support KVM switch, and more importantly because they need macOS for software updates, you are going to have trouble. Addendum You can actually control brightness and additional settings thanks to ClickMonitor DDC. Unfortunately, the software development has apparently stopped, but it works great with MS Windows 11. If you are a Linux user, gDDCControl is quite useful.
4.5k... The entire point of going through all of this hassle is to get the native 5k resolution. Which is very important on an LCD, because unlike a CRT display which can actually change how many pixels it is natively displaying, an LCD cant. Think of it like a fixed grid or mosaic. It has to resample a 4k or 4.5k into a 5k grid, meaning that you will never get a pixel perfect display, and areas that should be a perfect 1pixel stroke for example will end up being hazy resampled 2px line of blurriness.
It’s nice but to fully utilise that resolution wouldn’t a larger screen like 32 or 40 inch let have better productivity ? Otherwise you’re having to scale to 200% as things will just be too small on the screen?
Drivers have nothing to do with the lack of 5K. It's the lack of display bandwidth. 5K at 30 bits per pixel and 60 Hz is 5120*2880*30*60 = 26.54 Gbit/s. The Thunderbolt add-in card you used has only one DP 1.2 port, which provides 17.28 Gbit/s and doesn't support compression. To run the display at full resolution, you either need to connect two DP inputs, or one DP 1.4 input if the display supports compression. Both aren't supported by this add-in card.
Hi I have a LENOVO_MT_90JF_BU_Lenovo_FM_Legion T730-28ICO with a Lenovo 36E9 Motherboard... I am trying to figure out if there is an expansion I can purchase. Any Help?
Hi again Arikatecht. I just tried my xps 15 9570 at Apple store and it worked right away with the lg 4k ultrafine. Did you develop a way to adjust the screen brightness on your setup? Thanks a lot!!
I read somewhere how someone solved it but I cant remember where I found it but I will. If I find it and it works Ill let you know if youd like. Thanks for the fast responses.
hola como instalarlo para Windows 10 y Windows 11 saludos y éxitos necesito los driver o la solución mi placa base gigabyte z790 aorus elite ax y mi tarjeta es rtx 4070
Hello brother. I have connected lg 5k display to my windows pc using gigabyte gc titan ridge. But it only supports upto 4k. How can I get 5k resolution ?
its not drivers it's a physical limitation that apple overcame with custom thunderbolt controller; normal 5K monitors on PCs require 2 display port connections at the same time, thunderbolt 4 on a Mac handles both connections internally. there is no equivalent available for PC, you'd have to buy a dual display port 5k compatible monitor (extremely rare) and use a dual header output video card (most are capable) - which is why this monitor is specifically targeted to Mac users because it costs LG less to make this screen for apple than a similar PC version and a custom recombiner hardware that requires it's own cpu and ram on the monitor.
Just using the ASUS ThunderboltEX 3 is not enough because the ASUS AIC is only a DP1.2 in, to fully drive the 5k display you need two DP1.2 in or one DP1.4 in ext card. so only Gigabyte GC-Alpine Ridge/GC-Titan Ridge can fully drive 5k display
cao ping yes you are correct, I have ordered a GB card and will test, my channel comment section has become quite a hot bed or discussion. I will be testing if that GB card will work with an Asus MB
@@robertk2456 The TB Header is different on the Gigabyte x299 Boards and expansion cards than on the Asus versions. They aren't interchangeable since Intel hasn't developed a standard motherboard pin out for thunderbolt. Super frustrating!
This way works even without any discrete GPU, but your CPU should have internal video chip, e.g. intel UHD graphics. My LG Ultra fine 5K works well on system intel core i9 Windows 11 (PC) without videocard, only Intel UHD 770 and ASUS thunderbolter 4. So Resolution 3840x2160 and i'am totally happy.
Hey Arikatect, I've added a similar expansion card and the same monitor to my PC. When I first installed the monitor, it would auto detect every time I booted up the system. However, one day it stopped autodetecting the monitor and now I have to unplug and plug in the monitor to get the PC to see the connection. Any experience with this and or a solution? Thanks!
So brightness controls seem to be the broken part of this setup. I would probably not recommend the 5k or 4K Ultrafines for a windows only setup. It's obvious that the support of this product not existent for the windows side. Heres an article below of someone who found a utility that sort of works. Thanks for the questions guys. Who knows some software engineer might write an application that lets you adjust the brightness. medium.com/@ambroselittle/running-the-lg-ultrafine-27-5k-display-on-windows-10-e8b58cb9bf43
Arikatect ClickMonitorDDC 7.0 works the best for me for controlling the brightness of the LG Ultrafine 5K in Windows. Unfortunately, the color controls don’t seem to work, so you still get some oversaturation, but the brightness controls work fine.
The display is able to process RGB colour? I thought it's only able to work in DCI-P3 colour space. Besides the brightness being an issue, are the colours in Windows ok? No over-staturation, etc?
I have ASRock H370 Pro4 and I've installed Thunderbolt 3 AIC R2.0 card from ASRock. Brightness and USB hub works. I use an app called "LG Ultrafine Brightness" which can be found in the Microsoft Store. I had to set the BIOS setting "Windows 10 Thunderbolt support" to false so that the monitor would wake up from sleep. So in short everything works! The colours in Windows indeed look a bit oversaturated, so in my Nvidia Control Panel I dial back the digital vibrance to 45% from the default 50%. Colours are still not the same as in my Macbook Pro, but close enough. This is with the LG UltraFine 4k 21.5" P.S. I've also tried, side by side, Dell P2415Q and the UltraFine looks much better b/c the outgoing light is not diffused / scattered unlike the Dell which has a matte screen. I wish more manufacturers adopted Apple's approach of adding an anti-reflection layer vs using a matte screen.
I have the LG Ultrafine 4K installed on my Windows with the same Asus TB3ex youre using but whenever I put the computer to sleep and wake back up, it doesn't wake up the displayport. Instead it defaults to HDMI, which is my TV. Is your 5K able to wake up from sleep?
I'm having this issue as well, but it happens after ~2-3 hours of continued use as well. Once it's "sleep" I can't wake it up again without replugging and rebooting. Even then it doesn't always come back.
@@christopher-pfeifer you can probably disable your displayport or monitor from sleeping or turning off to save power in device manager. i stopped putting my comp to sleep. i just shut down now cuz my comp boots up in about 15 seconds anyway. There was this other pci express card with usb c alt mode called Sunix UPD2018 that worked waking up this monitor from sleep but it was glitchy as hell. the screen would go black for a second a few times an hour. ASRock makes one of these cards too if you wanna try their version and let us all know how it turns out
it works with tb4 too LG Ultrafine 27MD5KA-B laptop ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZM_FX507ZM but in single mode it goes very low in fps 3dmark 11 advanced 5k benchmark crashes out
My work notebook (HP Elitebook 840 G5) can only drive 4K on the LG Ultrafine 5K through its native TB3 port, but interestingly, if I connect it to my HP Thunderbolt Dock G2, I can get the full 5K. I think it’s because the Dock has 2 DisplayPorts, and is able to send the double DP signal through the TB3 port.
I imagine the dock has the chipset that allows multiple 4K monitors. Thus giving enough bandwidth to run at 5k. It’s similar to the setup inside Mac laptops.
I have an Acer Orion Predator w a 3070 and the LG 5k monitor. I've got it working great on 4k res with a bidirectional DP to usb C cable. I'm keen to get a Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) card though to get that crispy native 5k resolution though. If anyone out there has had success with a similar setup as mine, give me a shout out, thanks!
Thank you for sharing. i use GC-ALPINE RIDGE and Z390 Aorus Master, but i have this issue: LG Ultrafine monitor’s power delivery (Black out from the boot and wait until power delivery for 5-10min later). Do you have this problem??
DK zhao yeah I have had similar issues with running this display, I think it’s down to there not being any real drivers for it in windows. But also check you Thunderbolt settings in the bios there might not be something enable during the boot process.
Dude, i just bought the Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model with 2080 Max Q. My LG 5K works with 5K native Resolution. I thought this is not possible... But it works. Connected Peripherals and Audio also work plug and play.
Lukas von Niederhäusern that’s pretty awesome! They most have updated the display post standard on the new Razers. The LG 5K is just a Thunderbolt device so it should work with other Thunderbolt enabled things like laptops.
@@Tiraloale There are not many cons. Only the fan is a little bit annoying. It is still on, also when you do just nothing. I usually work with a 4k resolutions instead of the full 5k. When i do 5k, the integrated intel GPU has near 100% workload and the fans are going wild. Performance of the 2080 Max Q is good. It is very similar to my 980 Ti which i had in my "old" desktop computer. Yeah, and sometimes, i have to plug in the LG 5k one or two times until it works correctely.
Neil Thomas yes depends on the motherboard u have but for the most alll x570 motherboards with thunderbolt will support full 5k output providing your video card supports 5k monitors
Hey there Arikamedu, appreciate the info you provide. Unfortunately, I am unable to go beyond 3840x2160. I am using all the hardware as it is from ASU’s. Motherboard : Prime X299 - A Graphics : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Display : LG Ultra Fine 5k
I have an XPS 15 w thunderbolt 3 and it works flawlessly with the lg 5k at full res, with audio. There's a clunky github app to control the screen brightness.
So are you you happy you bought this knowing now you dont get the 5K resolution where you could have purchased a 4k monitor for less? I am considering getting one for my xps 15 9570 with 4 lane thunderbolt ports.
So I'm also a Mac user where I do get the full advantage of the monitor. This was more about being able to get the monitor to work with windows. I didn't purchase this monitor for a permanent windows experience. This was for if someone who already owns a Mac, Windows Desktop, and to use the LG ultrafine with there setup. I would say save your money with a 4k Display. Im very happy with this display and have no regrets for the purchase. But for windows experience isn't super worth it.
I am mainly on windows and use this as my main monitor and I am super happy with it. No monitor on the market comes close to the color or brightness. Also its 27" whereas the ultrafine 4k is only 24".
임준성 unfortunately no the LG Ultrafine is a Thunderbolt Display and has a built in control firmware that requires it to be connected by Thunderbolt to work.
Owen Wardlaw it’s definitely not a high refresh rate gaming monitor. You might do better selling it can getting a proper gaming monitor. Great monitor for content creators.
anyone tried? i going to have the same setup this weekend with my new DIY PC. so the audio will still going to work as in the sound coming from the 5k monitor?
I have had no issues with audio. It works as it should with the setup that the video author used. The only thing I have issues with is the webcam, but I use a better quality external webcam anyways, so this does not bother me.
i get one but it not work for me .i have the expansion card from creation msi card x299 .put i dont have the mini display cabe and i dont have a mini display port as well in the expansion card , i have on it 2 hdmi and 2 usb c thunderbolt3 port .can u help me please
@@luben2994 Can you share pls? also I have found this ua-cam.com/video/RfnNtkju-lM/v-deo.html that worries me because he try with a cable to the display port and does not work :(
@@noopnoog I don't think he test the displayport in that video(only via usb c and HDMI). I will maybe test the above mentioned method to see if it work out.
I am wondering how do you go about switching between your Mac and Windows PC on the daily basis? Is there some sort of USB-C Thunderbolt switch that you utilize? Thanks
Ruslan Shashkov, I thought only one of those ports is an active video input port TB3 for MacBook Pro or Windows 10 machine, the rest are expansion ports to daisy chain other monitors and hard drives etc. Are you sure that I can have multiple computers connected to those ports on the back of the monitor? How do I go about switching which input source I use due to lack of any buttons on the UltraFine 5K monitor itself? I can’t figure out how to switch between 2 video sources on this monitor?
@@send2sergei I think Ruslan might have been referring to LG's newer models that have both TB3 and HDMI, not sure. I can confirm it's only got 1 input TB3 port.
Christopher Pfeifer that makes sense that while it has 4 TB3 ports only 1 of those is the video input. Are there any external TB3 video switches that you would recommend for multiple input source switching?
@@send2sergei no, I've been told they don't really exist and you'd just need a TB3 "dock" or "hub" that includes video. But it probably wouldn't have two inputs and switching so yeah.. Not really lol.
Since the GPU is connected directly to the Thunderbolt expansion card able to run the monitor at 4K. The only issue is if your motherboard is compatible with a thunderbolt expansion card.
Hi guys, I have a Hackintosh and an LG UltraFine Display 24MD4KL. I would like to connect to my Hackintosh. Please help me with this problem. Hackintosh details: - Gigabite B365M DS3H - Asus RX 5500 XT 8Gb GDDR6 DUAL-RX5500XT-O8G-EVO - 2,9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 - 32GB - Catalina Thanks for your help!
Well, several issues. The motherboard you have is MATX so you only have a single expansion slot. This means you can’t add a TB expansion card in. Your GPU also doesn’t have a type c port with DisplayPort like some nvidia rtx cards. From the specs you sent there really isn’t a way to do it with the system you have.
Its an absolute shame that thunderbolt is so locked down. I hope that changes with USB 4.x which includes Thunderbolt support. (Why is it still not possible to buy a universal thunderbolt card that fits in a normal PCIe slot, without any further connections except GPU loopthrough). Also, the display needs two DP1.2 streams to have full 5K/10bit support. (Or a single DP1.4 which works at least with 8 bit color depth). Your GPU or the thunderbolt card either don't support DP1.4 or the monitor just has DP1.2 support. There are adapter boards to make this panel a normal dual DP1.2 display. However they connect straight to the panel. I am waiting for one from china. costs around 200 bucks, and you have to drill a hole in the back of the monitor for the new connections. Well worth it as I got an Ultrafine 5K with a defective driver board almost for free.
Many thanks for your help in this matter! After all of these years, the issues related with LG UltraFine (and now Apple Studio Display) still persist. Thanks to you and many other UA-cam channels (and all people around the Internet forums and message boards) we can say that we have finally found a group of solutions (so that we can tell it finally works). I have recently made a comment on a UA-cam video. And I would like to share the basic steps that I have elaborated there so that it can reach many more people looking after some sort of solution.
Note 1: LG UltraFine 1st iterations differ vastly from the latter versions. My comments are based on the second variations of the same product line. If you have the first iterations, I highly recommend looking for a Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) PCie card. This might change in the future once USB4 (with necessary video signal and data transmission) standards are applied on the future products.
Note 2: LG UltraFine 5K (2nd iteration) differs slightly from its 4K brother (2nd version). UltraFine 5K requires Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) PCie card if you want full 5K resolution. Otherwise, it will be limited to 4K. This might be an issue since you will suffer from lack of sharpness and proper scaling; and, hence, you will not get desired experience.
Here is the comment that I have made on video entitled, "Windows PC to Apple Studio Display - Will it work?" by 6 Months Later Reviews.
In my understanding, Apple Studio Display is more like the “infamous” LG UltraFine 4K (24-inch) and 5K (second version) monitors that were lined up next to Apple computers. Just like LG’s UltraFine lineup, Mac Studio Display will behave nicely if you manage to send video and data signals from the same cable. Both Huawei and Belkin’s charge and sync cable for Huawei’s VR Glass do a great job when it comes to catering for those in this scenario. It is simple, plug & play. Unlike a Thunderbolt 3 & 4 add-on card, you are free from all the hiccups that come with software issues. Brightness, audio and additional USB ports also work very well. The only downside is you are limited to USB 2.0 on those USB ports. The second alternative is Club 3D’s “CAC 1332” HDMI cable. From my readings through the Internet, this cable might have a second iteration that does not have a USB additional data cable anymore. So, be cautious. But the first iteration works like charm without any hiccups. If you happen to have a Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X or S, or Playstation 5, you are good to go with this cable. For those PC users also, this cable will work very well. There is one downside though. You can no longer access to USB ports (so you are limited to audio). There are additional fourth and fifth alternative solutions that can actually help (if you are a desktop PC user). If you have a compatible motherboard, you can attach a Thunderbolt card. Unfortunately, not all computers are Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) compatible, so you might be out of luck. In the fourth and the last alternative, you use Delock 89582 PCI Express Card. This card is a re-branded version of Sunix UPD2018 in the EU market. Unfortunately, I do not have enough information about this product.
In summary, Apple Studio Display will only come into your use if you go through these alternative solutions. If you are already a Mac user, and you really want to make this kind of monitors work, here is your endeavor waiting for you. But if you are a PC user, I do not recommend USB-C only monitors at all. They do not support KVM switch, and more importantly because they need macOS for software updates, you are going to have trouble.
Addendum
You can actually control brightness and additional settings thanks to ClickMonitor DDC. Unfortunately, the software development has apparently stopped, but it works great with MS Windows 11. If you are a Linux user, gDDCControl is quite useful.
Can ClickMonitor DDC control the colour temperature of the display?
@@NyashaM Unfortunately, it cannot.
Wow! thank you.
4.5k... The entire point of going through all of this hassle is to get the native 5k resolution. Which is very important on an LCD, because unlike a CRT display which can actually change how many pixels it is natively displaying, an LCD cant. Think of it like a fixed grid or mosaic. It has to resample a 4k or 4.5k into a 5k grid, meaning that you will never get a pixel perfect display, and areas that should be a perfect 1pixel stroke for example will end up being hazy resampled 2px line of blurriness.
It’s nice but to fully utilise that resolution wouldn’t a larger screen like 32 or 40 inch let have better productivity ? Otherwise you’re having to scale to 200% as things will just be too small on the screen?
Drivers have nothing to do with the lack of 5K. It's the lack of display bandwidth. 5K at 30 bits per pixel and 60 Hz is 5120*2880*30*60 = 26.54 Gbit/s. The Thunderbolt add-in card you used has only one DP 1.2 port, which provides 17.28 Gbit/s and doesn't support compression. To run the display at full resolution, you either need to connect two DP inputs, or one DP 1.4 input if the display supports compression. Both aren't supported by this add-in card.
Thanks mate this was really helpful - keep up the good work
Hi I have a LENOVO_MT_90JF_BU_Lenovo_FM_Legion T730-28ICO with a Lenovo 36E9 Motherboard... I am trying to figure out if there is an expansion I can purchase. Any Help?
Thank you very much for this great guide, it works perfectly
Thanks a lot Arikatect for the video at least and the fast response.
Thanks for the comment. The video is just to help inform people about 5k from a Windows perspective.
Hi again Arikatecht. I just tried my xps 15 9570 at Apple store and it worked right away with the lg 4k ultrafine. Did you develop a way to adjust the screen brightness on your setup? Thanks a lot!!
im still working on it! i tried the Bootcamp drivers but they weren't very well.
Sorry, the driver wasn't very stable.
I read somewhere how someone solved it but I cant remember where I found it but I will. If I find it and it works Ill let you know if youd like. Thanks for the fast responses.
hola como instalarlo para Windows 10 y Windows 11 saludos y éxitos necesito los driver o la solución mi placa base gigabyte z790 aorus elite ax y mi tarjeta es rtx 4070
Hello brother. I have connected lg 5k display to my windows pc using gigabyte gc titan ridge. But it only supports upto 4k. How can I get 5k resolution ?
did you use two DP In cables? just purchase other 20 cm DP cable, have a try
its not drivers it's a physical limitation that apple overcame with custom thunderbolt controller; normal 5K monitors on PCs require 2 display port connections at the same time, thunderbolt 4 on a Mac handles both connections internally. there is no equivalent available for PC, you'd have to buy a dual display port 5k compatible monitor (extremely rare) and use a dual header output video card (most are capable) - which is why this monitor is specifically targeted to Mac users because it costs LG less to make this screen for apple than a similar PC version and a custom recombiner hardware that requires it's own cpu and ram on the monitor.
Just using the ASUS ThunderboltEX 3 is not enough because the ASUS AIC is only a DP1.2 in, to fully drive the 5k display you need two DP1.2 in or one DP1.4 in ext card. so only Gigabyte GC-Alpine Ridge/GC-Titan Ridge can fully drive 5k display
cao ping yes you are correct, I have ordered a GB card and will test, my channel comment section has become quite a hot bed or discussion. I will be testing if that GB card will work with an Asus MB
Arikatect any news here? did the gigabyte card work with the asus motherboard?
@@robertk2456 The TB Header is different on the Gigabyte x299 Boards and expansion cards than on the Asus versions. They aren't interchangeable since Intel hasn't developed a standard motherboard pin out for thunderbolt. Super frustrating!
Arikatect sad . I really love 5k monitor . The pixel is so sharp. I don’t have a choice so i bought an IMac after i sold dell up2715k.
This way works even without any discrete GPU, but your CPU should have internal video chip,
e.g. intel UHD graphics. My LG Ultra fine 5K works well on system intel core i9 Windows 11 (PC) without videocard, only Intel UHD 770 and ASUS thunderbolter 4. So Resolution 3840x2160 and i'am totally happy.
Hi Arikatect, thanks for sharing, I am in similar situation and going to buy a TB3 card. I have one question, how is the built-in webcam quality?
Hey Arikatect, I've added a similar expansion card and the same monitor to my PC. When I first installed the monitor, it would auto detect every time I booted up the system. However, one day it stopped autodetecting the monitor and now I have to unplug and plug in the monitor to get the PC to see the connection. Any experience with this and or a solution? Thanks!
Nice video. So should one get the LG 4K version instead then? Are we able to adjust the brightness etc on the monitor when connected to a PC? Cheers.
I haven’t tried the 4K. It’s on my list of products to try.
So brightness controls seem to be the broken part of this setup. I would probably not recommend the 5k or 4K Ultrafines for a windows only setup. It's obvious that the support of this product not existent for the windows side. Heres an article below of someone who found a utility that sort of works. Thanks for the questions guys. Who knows some software engineer might write an application that lets you adjust the brightness.
medium.com/@ambroselittle/running-the-lg-ultrafine-27-5k-display-on-windows-10-e8b58cb9bf43
Arikatect ClickMonitorDDC 7.0 works the best for me for controlling the brightness of the LG Ultrafine 5K in Windows. Unfortunately, the color controls don’t seem to work, so you still get some oversaturation, but the brightness controls work fine.
I got some research that LG Ultrafine 5K use double DP 1.2 cable to boost to 5K. As Asus only one DP In. I suppose it can not support full resolution
When I first set this up, I was able to get full 5k resolutions working in Windows. But now I cannot go beyond 4k. Any ideas why?
The display is able to process RGB colour? I thought it's only able to work in DCI-P3 colour space. Besides the brightness being an issue, are the colours in Windows ok? No over-staturation, etc?
I have ASRock H370 Pro4 and I've installed Thunderbolt 3 AIC R2.0 card from ASRock. Brightness and USB hub works. I use an app called "LG Ultrafine Brightness" which can be found in the Microsoft Store. I had to set the BIOS setting "Windows 10 Thunderbolt support" to false so that the monitor would wake up from sleep. So in short everything works! The colours in Windows indeed look a bit oversaturated, so in my Nvidia Control Panel I dial back the digital vibrance to 45% from the default 50%. Colours are still not the same as in my Macbook Pro, but close enough.
This is with the LG UltraFine 4k 21.5"
P.S. I've also tried, side by side, Dell P2415Q and the UltraFine looks much better b/c the outgoing light is not diffused / scattered unlike the Dell which has a matte screen. I wish more manufacturers adopted Apple's approach of adding an anti-reflection layer vs using a matte screen.
it works !!!!! like !
Thanks! now I don't have to sell my expensive monitor and buy another one!
I have the LG Ultrafine 4K installed on my Windows with the same Asus TB3ex youre using but whenever I put the computer to sleep and wake back up, it doesn't wake up the displayport. Instead it defaults to HDMI, which is my TV. Is your 5K able to wake up from sleep?
I'm having this issue as well, but it happens after ~2-3 hours of continued use as well. Once it's "sleep" I can't wake it up again without replugging and rebooting. Even then it doesn't always come back.
@@christopher-pfeifer you can probably disable your displayport or monitor from sleeping or turning off to save power in device manager. i stopped putting my comp to sleep. i just shut down now cuz my comp boots up in about 15 seconds anyway. There was this other pci express card with usb c alt mode called Sunix UPD2018 that worked waking up this monitor from sleep but it was glitchy as hell. the screen would go black for a second a few times an hour. ASRock makes one of these cards too if you wanna try their version and let us all know how it turns out
@@tee228 Does the ASRock one work with the ASUS motherboard thunderbolt headers or is there a ASRock motherboard I'd need as well?
@@christopher-pfeifer I'm using this Asus card on a non Asus mobo without the headers and it works so i dont think it matters
@@tee228 if you don't have the headers then what does the card's internal cord plugged into?
What in your opinion is the best windows PC monitor on the market. Benq? For an architecture workstation I want to build.
LG UP3218K
Hello everyone, will this work for the motherboard?: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E Gaming WiFi Motherboard Socket AMD AM5
Also for the LG ultrafin 4k ?
Hola! Pudiste solucionar ese problema? Saludos cordiales!
Isaac Newton tu sabes cómo es ?
it works with tb4 too LG Ultrafine 27MD5KA-B laptop ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZM_FX507ZM but in single mode it goes very low in fps 3dmark 11 advanced 5k benchmark crashes out
My work notebook (HP Elitebook 840 G5) can only drive 4K on the LG Ultrafine 5K through its native TB3 port, but interestingly, if I connect it to my HP Thunderbolt Dock G2, I can get the full 5K. I think it’s because the Dock has 2 DisplayPorts, and is able to send the double DP signal through the TB3 port.
I imagine the dock has the chipset that allows multiple 4K monitors. Thus giving enough bandwidth to run at 5k. It’s similar to the setup inside Mac laptops.
I have an Acer Orion Predator w a 3070 and the LG 5k monitor. I've got it working great on 4k res with a bidirectional DP to usb C cable. I'm keen to get a Thunderbolt 3 (or 4) card though to get that crispy native 5k resolution though. If anyone out there has had success with a similar setup as mine, give me a shout out, thanks!
is these cards still needed
Thank you for sharing.
i use GC-ALPINE RIDGE and Z390 Aorus Master, but i have this issue:
LG Ultrafine monitor’s power delivery (Black out from the boot and wait until power delivery for 5-10min later).
Do you have this problem??
DK zhao yeah I have had similar issues with running this display, I think it’s down to there not being any real drivers for it in windows. But also check you Thunderbolt settings in the bios there might not be something enable during the boot process.
when you put your comp to sleep and wake, does it turn this monitor back on? mine goes to HDMI on wake
Did you ever get this issue sorted out? I am experiencing the same problem.
Dude, i just bought the Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model with 2080 Max Q. My LG 5K works with 5K native Resolution. I thought this is not possible... But it works. Connected Peripherals and Audio also work plug and play.
Lukas von Niederhäusern that’s pretty awesome! They most have updated the display post standard on the new Razers. The LG 5K is just a Thunderbolt device so it should work with other Thunderbolt enabled things like laptops.
Arikatect Yeah but sometimes they don‘t passthrough the video signal. And sometimes it is just onboard graphics...
@@lukasvonniederhausern6153 could pls do a video of you system, pros and cons?
@@Tiraloale There are not many cons. Only the fan is a little bit annoying. It is still on, also when you do just nothing.
I usually work with a 4k resolutions instead of the full 5k. When i do 5k, the integrated intel GPU has near 100% workload and the fans are going wild.
Performance of the 2080 Max Q is good. It is very similar to my 980 Ti which i had in my "old" desktop computer.
Yeah, and sometimes, i have to plug in the LG 5k one or two times until it works correctely.
Lukas von Niederhäusern so 5k attaches to integrated card, 2080 is not available to drive tb display?
you just need to download the Apple boot camp drivers and install the drivers for the LG display.
It's really that simple? Did you try?
@@mburton yes I have been using my LG 5K in windows for years no issues.
PKTV does this output in 5k?
Neil Thomas yes depends on the motherboard u have but for the most alll x570 motherboards with thunderbolt will support full 5k output providing your video card supports 5k monitors
PKTV thank you! Do you know where you can get the ultra fine specific boot camp drivers?
Hey there Arikamedu, appreciate the info you provide. Unfortunately, I am unable to go beyond 3840x2160. I am using all the hardware as it is from ASU’s.
Motherboard : Prime X299 - A
Graphics : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Display : LG Ultra Fine 5k
I'm facing same issue. Have you found any solution ?
Is there a way to connect this LG 5k to a Dell XPS 15 with USB c?
I have an XPS 15 w thunderbolt 3 and it works flawlessly with the lg 5k at full res, with audio. There's a clunky github app to control the screen brightness.
Does it work if you are going to use two lg 5k monitors using windows?
So are you you happy you bought this knowing now you dont get the 5K resolution where you could have purchased a 4k monitor for less? I am considering getting one for my xps 15 9570 with 4 lane thunderbolt ports.
So I'm also a Mac user where I do get the full advantage of the monitor. This was more about being able to get the monitor to work with windows. I didn't purchase this monitor for a permanent windows experience. This was for if someone who already owns a Mac, Windows Desktop, and to use the LG ultrafine with there setup. I would say save your money with a 4k Display. Im very happy with this display and have no regrets for the purchase. But for windows experience isn't super worth it.
Also the reason why 5k works with Macs is down to a special thunderbolt controller they developed that's different than the third party adapters.
I am mainly on windows and use this as my main monitor and I am super happy with it. No monitor on the market comes close to the color or brightness. Also its 27" whereas the ultrafine 4k is only 24".
Do you know if this will work with a GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ULTRA Motherboard?
I don't think so, Gigabytes Thunderbolt expansion card don't support AMD systems and that motherboard doesn't have the correct I/O built in.
Would "USB-C to HDMI" cable work to connect a PC and LG 5K monitor? I just need to use the LG 5k monitor, I don't care quality.
임준성 unfortunately no the LG Ultrafine is a Thunderbolt Display and has a built in control firmware that requires it to be connected by Thunderbolt to work.
Did the camera work?
Does it top off at a frame limit or lose any computing power? I got a free lg 5K monitor and want to use it for gaming.
Owen Wardlaw it’s definitely not a high refresh rate gaming monitor. You might do better selling it can getting a proper gaming monitor. Great monitor for content creators.
i use a bidirektional usbc to dp cable to drive one on my windows maschine.
anyone tried? i going to have the same setup this weekend with my new DIY PC. so the audio will still going to work as in the sound coming from the 5k monitor?
I have had no issues with audio. It works as it should with the setup that the video author used. The only thing I have issues with is the webcam, but I use a better quality external webcam anyways, so this does not bother me.
i get one but it not work for me .i have the expansion card from creation msi card x299 .put i dont have the mini display cabe and i dont have a mini display port as well in the expansion card , i have on it 2 hdmi and 2 usb c thunderbolt3 port .can u help me please
its work i connect a display port from expansion card to the gpu now its work fine but its not take it as main display when i restart
How does brightness adjustment work with this setup?
brightness is controlled by nvidia control panel
Is it possible to connect the monitor to my windows with cable that is displayport out and type c in?
Same here I would like to know if can run on a RTX 2060 with a cable that goes from type-c to display port. Thanks in advance ;)
I found some cable that’s capable of transmitting 5k (5120x 2880 @ 444) signal bidirectionally.
@@luben2994 Can you share pls? also I have found this ua-cam.com/video/RfnNtkju-lM/v-deo.html that worries me because he try with a cable to the display port and does not work :(
@@noopnoog I don't think he test the displayport in that video(only via usb c and HDMI). I will maybe test the above mentioned method to see if it work out.
Lu Ben today I received the thunderbolt card! In 4 hours I will mount it! Will see what happens xD
I am wondering how do you go about switching between your Mac and Windows PC on the daily basis? Is there some sort of USB-C Thunderbolt switch that you utilize? Thanks
UltraFine has four USB Type-C sockets. And two of them are thunderbolt enabled. So you could connect both of your Mac and PC.
Ruslan Shashkov, I thought only one of those ports is an active video input port TB3 for MacBook Pro or Windows 10 machine, the rest are expansion ports to daisy chain other monitors and hard drives etc. Are you sure that I can have multiple computers connected to those ports on the back of the monitor? How do I go about switching which input source I use due to lack of any buttons on the UltraFine 5K monitor itself? I can’t figure out how to switch between 2 video sources on this monitor?
@@send2sergei I think Ruslan might have been referring to LG's newer models that have both TB3 and HDMI, not sure. I can confirm it's only got 1 input TB3 port.
Christopher Pfeifer that makes sense that while it has 4 TB3 ports only 1 of those is the video input. Are there any external TB3 video switches that you would recommend for multiple input source switching?
@@send2sergei no, I've been told they don't really exist and you'd just need a TB3 "dock" or "hub" that includes video. But it probably wouldn't have two inputs and switching so yeah.. Not really lol.
Would this work with a nvidia GTX 980 ti ?
Since the GPU is connected directly to the Thunderbolt expansion card able to run the monitor at 4K. The only issue is if your motherboard is compatible with a thunderbolt expansion card.
can you connect with RTX 2080ti directly from usb-c?
Not sure I will test it with an RTX 2080
did it work
Thanks for trying dude, ill have my rtx 2080 in 2 days, wilk try also. But do you think in future can they add this kind of support?
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Hi guys,
I have a Hackintosh and an LG UltraFine Display 24MD4KL. I would like to connect to my Hackintosh. Please help me with this problem.
Hackintosh details:
- Gigabite B365M DS3H
- Asus RX 5500 XT 8Gb GDDR6 DUAL-RX5500XT-O8G-EVO
- 2,9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5
- 32GB
- Catalina
Thanks for your help!
Well, several issues. The motherboard you have is MATX so you only have a single expansion slot. This means you can’t add a TB expansion card in. Your GPU also doesn’t have a type c port with DisplayPort like some nvidia rtx cards. From the specs you sent there really isn’t a way to do it with the system you have.
Its an absolute shame that thunderbolt is so locked down. I hope that changes with USB 4.x which includes Thunderbolt support. (Why is it still not possible to buy a universal thunderbolt card that fits in a normal PCIe slot, without any further connections except GPU loopthrough).
Also, the display needs two DP1.2 streams to have full 5K/10bit support. (Or a single DP1.4 which works at least with 8 bit color depth). Your GPU or the thunderbolt card either don't support DP1.4 or the monitor just has DP1.2 support. There are adapter boards to make this panel a normal dual DP1.2 display. However they connect straight to the panel. I am waiting for one from china. costs around 200 bucks, and you have to drill a hole in the back of the monitor for the new connections. Well worth it as I got an Ultrafine 5K with a defective driver board almost for free.
Could you give a bit more information on this? I've got one of these Ultrafine 5k displays just sitting here right now
This prove eGPU can make with 2 tb3 bolt build in
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