Dodge and Burn Is Finally Here For Luminar NEO - Don't Use It! Try THIS Instead.
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Get Luminar NEO here with a discount: bit.ly/Luminar... Use code "ATNEO". Let's look at the new Dodge and Burn tool in Luminar NEO and lets see why we may want to avoid it. At the end of the video I'll share a far superior way of working with the dodge and burn technique.
Although I'm not a huge fan of the Dodge and Burn tool, I am a fan of the new HDR Merge plugin for Neo. Find out more here: bit.ly/HDRMerge. You can save when you buy it with NEO using the code ATNEO here: bit.ly/NEOandHDR or if you already have NEO you can order your copy of the HDR Merge plugin here: bit.ly/HDR4NEO
Dodge and burn is a technique for controlling the brightness values through our photos enabling us to sculpt the light to our choosing. This technique was developed in the darkroom and is still used in high end retouching today. If you don't know dodge and burn you NEED to add it to your photo editing skillset!
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I've still not found the time to learn much about editing that much,
I prefer taking the photos.
Watched this yesterday though, had a little play and was pleased with the outcome.
A helpful straight forward video.
Thank you.
Vote YES for a masterclass. Keep up the good work.
A longer master class would be appreciated. Well done mate, cheers.
Masterclass. Please. I like your direct ( no waffle) tutorials!
Masterclass, PLEASE. (But this brief overview is excellent.)
Masterclass would be so helpful. Love the way you explain how to get different results.
Thanks 😄
Master Class would be wonderful ! Really appreciate the meticulous approach taken in your tutorials.
I would like to see a Masterclass on Dodge and Burn. Thanks Andy
Masterclass please. Love your tutorials.
Thank you! Please bless us with a Masterclass
Hi again Anthony! Nice to see Skylum re-introducing the tools available in Luminar 4 and Luminar AI, but still no 'clone stamp' tool! I agree, dodge and burn can be overdone, so like yourself, I only subtly apply it. By the way, Masterclass please Anthony! Regards from. Felix the Cat. 🐱🐱
Thanks Felix the Cat! Always puts a smile on my dial to see a comment from you 😀 Thanks for your continued support!
Thanks so much. Would love to see the Masterclass
The colorshift is almost a new feature and I like it. I feel the "feature" should be kept and a button be added to Burn & Dodge to turn it on and off.
Me too.
D&B here at last!! I enjoyed your comparison of the tool and your "home made" version. I think there is a place for both. However, as you have just demonstrated, D&B can be emulated quite easily so I am wondering why they didn't introduce Clone and Stamp first as this is something you can't do any other way (apart from erase, but more intricate work needs C&S - still having to hop over to another program if C&S is needed. Fingers crossed for C&S to come soon!
Apparently It's being worked on... yes, hopefully it'll be here soon. 🙏
@@AnthonyTurnham Good news!! Just opened NEO to check for the D&B update along with the new HDR Merge (free for me as an owner of Aurora) and it says the version 1.1.1 is the latest update!! Has it been released yet or have you got an early test version?
@@NJM1948 According to e-mails I have received from Skylum Merge will be available this Thursday (28/7/22)
@@brucecampbell4485 Thanks, yes, I remember seeing that date. I thought maybe they had brought it forward a few days as Anthony didn't menttion that this was a prelease version...unless I missed that bit!!! It makes sense to hold back on D&B until the same time too so that there is only one release. Thanks again
Hi @Nigel Moore the general release date for the update is in fact 28th July 2022. I got crossed wires on the info. My bad. A couple more days and you'll be good to go!
Nicely done tutorial, Anthony. Would like to see a Masterclass on this, also.
Hi Anthony, masterclass please! and thank you for the effort!
Great video! BTW Hey Luminar engineers, luminance range and color range, now get to work!
Masterclass would be awesome. thanks
Excellent ! Thank you for this brilliant explanation with clarity and professionalism. Thank you Antony.
Masterclass would be great. Nice tutorial!
Masterclass....definitely welcome
I appreciate your extreme attention to detail. As we know, the devil is always to be found hiding in the details and if we are not concerned about the subtle details then, frankly, we are not worthy of calling ourselves true artists but are actually nothing but crude hacks. Obviously, not all things we produce are needed to have the ultimate high art treatment but for those works that do warrant it compromising and saying "that's good enough" is like swearing.
Very good video.
I've never liked dodge and burn for the reasons you stated :)
Masterclass please!!! This was very helpful.
Masterclass would be helpful!
Great learning Anthony. Thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful!
I have good hopes for Neo, but until they fix the issue where keywords are stripped out unless you are using Lightroom, I can't use it full time in my workflow. This has been going on since Luminar 3 at least and they don't seem to be able to fix it, or care to. Thanks for another great video, Anthony.
Very well done, Masterclass thank you.
Masterclass please Anthony. Thanks.
MASTER CLASS PLEASE. Thanks for sharing
Please - a Masterclass! Thank you!!
Anthony, have you ever considered compiling all your wisdom and expertise into a Skillshare or MasterClass course? I would pay...whatever sum you felt was fair... to access all your lessons, techniques and skills within one Super-Course! You are my Go-To Guru for all Real Estate, Luminar and Adobe suite photography wisdom. Please, please, PLEASE, consider taking the next step to move all that you provide (for free) to a Master Class or SkillShare platform. I have multiple UA-cam folders that contain most everything you have produced and I have become a far better photographer and editor by what you offer and by how well you teach your craft. I would enrol in the University of Turnham, if it only existed!
Wow, thank you so much.
I'm actually giving it serious consideration. UA-cam is great but crafting a course that takes people through in a logical process really appeals to me.
Thanks for the encouragement and the channel support too!
Master class... Woo-Hoo! Thanks again Anthony.
Master Class would be wonderful !
Masterclass would be nice. What is missing from these tools is the normal highlights, midtones, darks, options for the dodge and burn. Feels like a quickly cobbled-together and half-finished module dropped in because users said "where's the dodge and burn". Pretty much like the HDR add-in that has no control for the user from the makers of Aurora (it is barely better than nothing - but then I do still have Aurora). I've been a user of Macphun (skylum) since Aurora was first released and I still only see NEO or AI as effects plugins for use with apps that have much better core editing tools
well done as usual
master class would be appreciated
Yes, please! Masterclass
I have been using Neo now for a couple of weeks and find it to be a really useful tool for my photo editing. This was an interesting video and I'm sure down the road there will be improvements to the new doge & burn tool. I use a lot of what you demonstrated in the develop tool and for now, will probably stick with method #2 as you described.
Thanks John. Good feedback 👍
I like the Dodge and burn tool, handy for doing quick edits. I don’t understand why the clone tool is not back yet. I would like a Master class.
Hi Norma. I know the clone tool is in development so hopefully we won't be waiting too long...
@@AnthonyTurnham see the comment in our replies. I received a comment saying I am a great winner of a prize. I think someone is running a scam.
Masterclass, please!
Masterclass … Thank you!
Thank you too!
Yes please masterclass.
A masterclass would be great!
Although I'm not a huge fan of the Dodge and Burn tool, I am a fan of the new HDR Merge plugin for Neo Find out more here: bit.ly/HDRMerge. You can save when you buy it with NEO using the code ATNEO here: bit.ly/NEOandHDR or if you already have NEO you can order your copy of the HDR Merge plugin here: bit.ly/HDR4NEO
I hope this video is useful to you! Let me know if you want a deep dive into the best ways to apply the dodge and burn technique. Just write "masterclass" in the comments to let me know. If the interest is there I'll put something together.
Thank you, Masterclass
Dodge and burn masterclass, please.
Great tips. But, I'm confused why you inverted the mask before you started to burn/dodge. Why couldn't you just start brushing once you adjusted the exposure?
Just keeping you on your toes Tom 😜 No, in seriousness, it's nothing more than I like seeing my image as is, and taking a few seconds to visualise how to approach the dodging or burning before I commit to laying a brush stroke.
@@AnthonyTurnham Thanks for the explanation. I might give that technique a try.
Another great video. I have never liked dodge and burn tools mind you.
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I had always thought the D&B tool was over rated. I think a luminosity mask tool for Neo would be of more value.
Hey, I'm with you on that Edward. I'd love to see Luminosity masking make an appearance!
Masterclass please!
MasterClass Ant!!! Later, K... Bra!!!
Thanks Ant & can't wait... & does Rouge n Burn still have noticeable edges if ya shoot it 13, 33, or 69% light or darker & can it B Fix'd K Bra B safe & also ur Family 2, Keep in-Touch K???
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We have reached version 1.2 of Luminar Neo, a program that since version 1.05 has a huge bug. After cropping a photo proportionally with, for example, the original dimensions of 5184x3456, when we finish editing if we export indicating that we want the original dimensions, Neo simply ignores the instruction and keeps the dimensions after the crop. As I mentioned the problem only arises I think in version 1.05 (or 1.06 I'm not sure anymore). And no one at Skylum detects the bug. As long as it persists, the acquisition is not justified.
Hi Carlos. Have you brought it up with their helpdesk? It's only through user feedback that the bugs get caught.
Masterclass please :)
Masterclass 🙏
Hi Anthony! I haven't got the latest update yet, I suppose it will arrive to download later or tomorrow! Regards, Felix the Cat. 🐱🐱
Hello Anthony. I like your alternative method. I think I see one problem with it. If you open a RAW file you don't get a mask option in Develop.
Hi John. Usually dodge and burn comes later in your workflow. So dev raw would be used to set the base of the photo as shown in a lot of my other videos, then you'd build your edit from there. On subsequent applications of the develop tool the mask becomes available.
@@AnthonyTurnham Ah, makes perfect sense. Thank you.
Hi Anthony, I enjoyed this video because it confirmed what I had learned and have been using to effect from another of your videos. I'm still waiting for the clone tool but I'll be patient.☺
Thanks Kim 😀 Yes, I kinda foresaw this would be a short coming of the tool when it was released.
I have never understood Dodge and Burn. How is it different from painting in brightness or darkness using the Enhance (Develop) tool?
That's pretty much it! Selectively painting bright and dark parts where you want them to sculpt the light.
Masterclass!! Please
Hello Anthony, is this true? I have to pay the shipping price and there are currently many scams on the internet. Thank you very much!!
Master Class please
Master Class
Thanks again
All good Ryan!
Master class please
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Masterclass please . mike
Nice tut.
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Masterclass would be good. I feel luminar is doing too much quick fix which can take longer than your method when the quick fix method doesn't look right. Personally I use on1 to develop and dodge and burn and luminar to add finishing touches
Hi Martin, in certain instances I take the approach of editing in Lightroom, then Photoshop, then finishing in Luminar, and sometimes some Topaz along the way for image enhancements.
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Thanks Bob
Hi Anthony, what happens if you duplicate the layer and set the blending mode on that layer on luminosity. After that dodge and burn on that layer. Is it correct that I won't see any color shifting? Regards.
Hi Nick. That's correct. Luminosity blend mode allows only the brightness value to change but the saturation remains as per the underlying layer.
i dont have it on my neo i did the update
Hi Dean. V1.2 of Luminar Neo drops on 28th July. Sorry, I got my wires crossed on the general release date and wrongly thought it was available from the time Skylum lifted the embargo on sharing info on it. Sorry for the confusion!
Hii, I have Luminar program, but I can't even edit one image, the program is very slow, I have a Mac mini m1 16 GB RAM and a Sony camera a7r Iva , what is the reason for the slow program? The program also takes a large hard disk 😓
Bottom line is Luminar is very dependent on AI and takes a lot of system resources to run. Fast CPU, large amount of RAM and ideally installed on an m.2 ssd for optimum performance. I also shoot large raw files but find 32gb ram and the Ryzen multithread chipset handles it well.
Discount codes aren’t working for subscriptions right?
Yes, I think the codes exclude subscriptions, they're just for purchasing out right.
I have noticed that it’s not that responsive with brush strokes. Not refined but sluggish on my system.
Anyone also having issues?.
Once you click, yes it can take a moment to initiate the brush. It's little things like this that often get fixed with the updates.
Couldn't you could just put a grey layer on top in luminosity mode then dodge and burn that layer?
Hi Jackie, it's a nice idea but the dodge and burn tool used on the grey layer doesn't "see" the information underneath so effectively it's no different to painting with a white and black brush to dodge and burn. Which, yes is of course an option, however, luminosity blend mode also has it's own limitations when dealing with saturation shifts (or the lack of them) when you change the brightness or darkness with more intensity.
Aha! Thanks. I assumed layers in Luminar might work the same way they do in Photoshop. Off-topic related sidenote: it would be great if Luminar could send layers back and forth like we can send Photoshop layers to Luminar and back again. I think it'll happen eventually, so everything works as a plugin to everything else. A bit like how midi and vst became universal standards and transformed the audio world, making it better for everybody.
How does D&B go with RAW files taken in colour but edited to various B&W tonings (not via BW Tool but via a gradual process of edits) or for Sepia
I'd need to do a bit more research into that for a definitive answer. I'd expect similarly aggressive and still better to be done through the develop tool.
So the Dodge and Burn is only with HDR?
Hi mate. The dodge and burn is in the free update for Neo owners. The HDR merge is now available but it is an optional plugin.
I Am having problem with the erase
Okay. Thanks. I'll see if I can cover it and how to use it best. Cheers.
Masterclass please…
I do not see it in my luminar Neo. I own Neo, AI, and Aurora. I check for updates and it says I'm all up to date with version 1.1.1 Am I missing something?
I think so. Version 1.2 should be available to you through the "check for updates" or autodetecting that a new version is out. If you're still not having luck maybe reach out to Skylum helpdesk.
I heard Thursday for the masses to get this update.
@@AnthonyTurnham Hey Anthony, is that you notifying winners of a prize if they Telegram you? I doubt it!
I haven't got this update yet is it in Beta by any chance? also I used the discount code while they had the offer on including the free bundle for the HDR program to come out
I don't think any of us have it yet and this video should have been released when it is
Hi @DAPP1J. The full update is released on 28th of July. Sorry for the confusion!
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Does photoshop dodge and burn desaturate colors? Also, why doesn’t the company just fix this damaged tool? I gotta laugh as Luminar and ON1 have now both lost me as a customer going forward. BOTH companies engaged id]n a quasi bait and switch practices. You but Neo and then only after you buy it, they start hitting you up for big $ for shit that should be in the damn orig. program! These “add ons” would have been product updates a year ago. Now, they lure the user in with a LACKING product, then want to charge you another 80.00 to bring it up to speed! Pathetic and a low blow for previous customers. ON1 is just as guilty.
I use ethe same technique in Photoshop because of the change in saturation. It's complex to explain but it's just an optical by-product of the lightening/darkening effect. Personally I'm okay with the new extensions. The core of the program is all there and you can fully edit without any of the specialist extensions. HDR, focus stacking and AI upscaling are all things that most companies that produce them charge for as they're pretty dedicated bits of code/development. Photoshop is the exception - however that's a subscription model and you also get these tools included if you choose the subscription with Luminar.
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panel pro is far more amazing than neo. tssk
Are you talking about Jon Wetherby's Pro Panel for Photoshop? It's a nice tool but you gotta own PS to use it. A lot of viewers for this video are Luminar owners interested in the HDR function. Very different things to compare.
Would you please refer to the audience as "you", not "you guys"? "You guys" makes it sound impersonal.
Nicely done tutorial, Anthony. Would like to see a Masterclass on this, also.
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