ALTERNATE Bosses In Shadow Generations

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  • @mr_fredfyre9121
    @mr_fredfyre9121 17 днів тому +123

    Fun fact: Shadow’s lines in Dream Team are the EXACT same in Shadow Gens

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +37

      WE GOT THE VOICE PORT AFTERALL LFGGG 🗣️

  • @SPEEDYDIM2
    @SPEEDYDIM2 17 днів тому +58

    i love how 2024 was just the year of sick as hell shadow animations
    *dream team*
    *shadow gens*
    *dark beginning’s*
    *movie 3*
    THEY WERE ALL PEAKKK

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +11

      iirc the storyboarding team for Dark Beginnings also worked on Sonic 3! they should be mainstays along with marza
      I'm glad we're seeing a focus on action and combat again as opposed to just parkour (as entertaining as that is)

  • @MrSonicGuy3765
    @MrSonicGuy3765 17 днів тому +33

    6:59
    SOMEONE GIVE THE CAMERAMAN A RAISE BECAUSE HE JUST TOOK THE SHOT OF ALL TIME

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +7

      LMAO thank you
      There's a few shots in this video I was really proud of! I originally almost put this shot in the thumbnail but it was too small.

    • @huntertaylor4523
      @huntertaylor4523 13 днів тому +1

      "Why do I hear boss music?"

  • @hydrocityshark
    @hydrocityshark 17 днів тому +51

    What Sega need to do is have collectable skins in the base game of future Sonic games. I would eat it up like a toddler when handed birthday cake.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +9

      ^^ this ontop of the unlockable music/art from Gens in every game would be great. They could still sell artbooks even if they put concept art from the game as a collectible imo.
      Maybe you could even have side quests tied to your skin similar to Mario Odyssey

    • @hydrocityshark
      @hydrocityshark 17 днів тому +5

      @ Right off the bat, the SOAP shoes would be for a grinding challenge.

  • @sophiavollenberg
    @sophiavollenberg 17 днів тому +14

    fun fact: the amiga tts voice is also used in sonic cd's jp ost, in metallic madness you can hear it in the background saying stuff like "Sonic, dead or alive, is mine"

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      I exclusively play with the JP OST and never noticed this! Tbf I don't listen to the tracks isolated.

    • @jackhumphries1087
      @jackhumphries1087 13 днів тому +1

      @@DolphynsDeckit’s only in the bad future of jp metallic madness, it says “you can’t do anything so don’t even try it” “don’t do what sonic does” and “sonic, dead or alive, is mine!” Presumably metal sonic is meant to be the one saying them

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy 16 днів тому +11

    The Amiga voice is a reference to Sonic CD's Metallic Madness JP Bad Future mix, where we hear that voice say lines like "You can't do anything, so don't even try it" and "Sonic, dead or alive... is mine." Because of this, some people associate that voice with Metal Sonic, specifically Classic Metal.

  • @Slimeonian
    @Slimeonian 17 днів тому +23

    Now we just need Infinite to be modded over the Mephiles boss. Turn all the purple to red. I’m sure there’s voice lines from Infinite in forces that could fit really well for the fight too

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +12

      I've seen WIP posts of this exact thing in the Hedgemodding server! They even replace the Scepter Of Darkness with the Phantom Ruby :)

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +14

    5:47 The Forgettable, Giant, Phantom Metal Sonic from Sonic Forces Would Like A Word

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +3

      I forgot about him ngl

    • @gundamgamer7060
      @gundamgamer7060 17 днів тому +2

      I don't think that was even the real Metal Sonic, but just a Phantom ruby illusion since Infinite's final boss fight plays out practically the same exact way.

    • @KiiBon
      @KiiBon 17 днів тому +1

      ​@@gundamgamer7060Canonically Metal Sonic was being upgraded to Neo during the events of Forces, so yeah

    • @gundamgamer7060
      @gundamgamer7060 16 днів тому +1

      @@KiiBon Oh, so that's how he regained the Neo form in the beginning of the IDW comics. That explains everything, actually.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +14

    There’s a bunch of quick time events that are automated to play on their own, but I’m glad that, apart from the final hit, Mephiles’s fight will actually play out a little different if you fail a quick time events. And typically Mephiles will mock you for failing to match his power

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +7

      I honestly wish there was more penalty like in the Titan fights. A bit of a letdown in that regard.
      It almost looks like Mephiles parries you before hitting you! I want more stuff like that in the next game!!

  • @KyanoAng3l0_24
    @KyanoAng3l0_24 17 днів тому +6

    As a '90s kid, I find that Amiga voice nostalgic, heh. I never used the Amiga myself, but that's similar to the kind of text-to-speech I grew up with. Even in kids' games/apps like Davidson's Kid Works Deluxe where they tried to make T2S sound more kid-friendly or goofy, little me always found it creepy or uncanny. That said, it suits Metal Sonic Kai imo.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +3

      I found it fascinating how new games always use 90s computer interfaces, terminals & tts as an element for horror because to people unfamiliar with it (younger generations) it's probably even more startling than those who grew up around it. It's a cool time capsule. I appreciate this perspective on your end too!

    • @Preteristboy
      @Preteristboy 16 днів тому

      You can also hear the voice in Sonic CD, specifically in Metallic Madness' JP Bad Future mix. That might be why some people associate it with Metal.

  • @wispunleashedofficial
    @wispunleashedofficial 17 днів тому +11

    5:48 Superstars: Am I a joke to you?

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +7

      I said Modern 💅

    • @wispunleashedofficial
      @wispunleashedofficial 17 днів тому

      @@DolphynsDeckI was saying in terms of it being a Modern time classic Sonic game, but since you said, it now doesn't count.

    • @wispunleashedofficial
      @wispunleashedofficial 13 днів тому

      Wait, but there's also forces which is a giant phantom copy of Metal Sonic.

  • @Judgement456-fr6ju
    @Judgement456-fr6ju 4 дні тому

    Amazing video and love the Titan Overlord mod I honestly don’t know if he looks more terrifying in Red or Blue . Red definitely makes him look like he’s straight from the dark fiery pits of the underworld while Blue just makes him even more disturbing sonic horror creature.
    Also I do agree while that voice change does make sense the original voice emotions you here especially the “Not you! Not Sonic! NOT ANYONE!” Ohhh you can feel the hatred in it which the voice pack sadly doesn’t have.

  • @Xero1130
    @Xero1130 16 днів тому +3

    3:04 WHO IS PLAYING MINECRAFT DUNGEONS?

  • @MantledMimi
    @MantledMimi 17 днів тому +5

    My favorite skin mod for Shadow has to be Dragon Hunter Lancelot.
    It fits the doom wings really well.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +2

      I almost used him over Warrior Shadow in the Mephiles fight! I figured Warrior was a bit more recent and fit Mephiles' theme better. Amazing point with the wings though omg - gonna steal that when I use his skin in a vid ngl 🫣

  • @tonutboi5945
    @tonutboi5945 16 днів тому +2

    I kinda wish they had these skins for the hard mode versions of the boss fights, really reminds me of how kirby does its boss battle rematches

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  16 днів тому

      Give me a true arena in Sonic and I will never touch another video game again

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +3

    I’ve never been able to binge watch sonic underground (not because it’s unavailable for me, just because I can’t sit through it, even if one day I do plan on forcing myself to just to say I have) so I’m impressed that they found a character so obscure, but even I didn’t know about him. Although I will say I do with chomps had something for the wing form. Maybe the eggs that make up the wing could’ve been green to reference the master emerald? Or maybe they could’ve been music notes, I don’t know.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      Did Knuckles have the Master Emerald in Underground? I legit don't remember rofl
      I have some friends who watch Underground ironically but I don't think many people even remember who Chomps is lol
      I definitely remember seeing this episode as a kid (there's a scene where Sleet and Dingo are on a spit for trespassing on the island) but I didn't remember the funny lil dino guy at all lol
      I would probably only return to Underground for educational purposes because there are some other spin-offs that reference it and I'd like to know how accurate they are.

  • @furious_pie466
    @furious_pie466 17 днів тому +9

    18:24 honestly if you ever do a video where you play as Sonic over Shadow the Shadow over Mephiles mod could honestly work pretty well since we never got a rival battle between the two, although Sonic vs Mephiles would go extremely hard since he killed him in 06 so seeing Sonic get his payback would be raw as hell
    (I am so sorry for the amount of yapping I’m about to do but I just really felt like making some sort of comment sharing mod combos I’ve done 💀)
    Speaking of Sonic based off a reply I’ve seen in your eclipse mod showcase it seems like at some point you plan to give Sonic a shot in this game which is pretty cool and for a bit of fun I want to recommend a bunch of different mods I personally use and have mixed together that make Sonic feel a lot more like well, SONIC instead of just a shadow skin, i’ll be going from stuff I consider most essential to just little personal touches.
    1. Sonic X Sonic Generations by Lulamooonz
    You’re probably familiar with this but i’ll explain so this works for everyone reading, this WIP mod replaces Shadow with Sonic along with running animations instead of skating/hovering and re-colours and replaces the Doom Powers to fit Sonic better.
    2. Jason Griffith Sonic Voice Clips by Dolm
    Essentially it does exactly what the Eclipse mod does but this time it’s Sonic, all of the voice clips sound like Sonic, level & boss dialogue is replaced with Sonic the bosses and Black Doom have had their dialogue edited and the side characters have had their interactions changed to sound like they’re actually talking to the blue guy.
    3. Movie Sonic Mod by Demonicbear
    replaces Movie Shadow with Movie Sonic, although there is an issue with this mod at the moment where the chaos control aura and after images are very broken but I do have a semi fix for that at the end of the list so stick around
    4. Sonic Styled Music + Rank Pack
    This replaces multiple songs from the game with more Sonic sounding ones and has multiple different styles for the result screen that you can customise, The options being modern style, Advance style, Rush style, Black Knight style, and Orchestral style,
    5. Sonic Title Screen over Shadow by DanielGamerDX
    This is where things get more personal so if you’re happy with the way things are then you can leave it that way, this mod simply replaces the Shadow gens title screen with a Sonic themed one, I know the Sonic x Sonic gens mod already does this but personally I think this one looks better.
    6. Sonic The Hedgehog by yoonyoon
    Now this is 1 of 3 mods where we won’t actually be using it but instead we will be extracting files with hedgeArcPack and mixing it with Sonic X Sonic Gens, now no offence to yoonyoon as I will always have respect for people going out of their way to make this stuff but the other Sonic mod is overall less buggy and more solid then this one.
    Anyways the files you’ll want to grab are the boost CEMTS as one tiny detail this mod has over the Lulamooonz one is that the boost aura is fully blue compared to the other mod where there’s still some orange left over from Shadow, so do your typical extraction when mixing animation mods only this time for boost CEMTS and you’re golden.
    7. No Chaos Control Aura
    this one I specifically recommend for Movie Sonic as his chaos control aura is very broken and while this doesn’t fully fix it it does remove the aura when getting Chaos Control (idk if you’ll remember this but I actually recommended this to you on Twitter and you even respond… so ummmm hello)
    8. Stylish Warp Attack by MarsonM526
    This changes the animation that plays after Shadow’s chaos control homing attack to be the trick animation when you jump off a ramp in radical highway, this one is easily the most personal of them all but I think it makes sense for Sonic to style on the enemies after each attack, and conveniently this mod comes with an option to just download the necessary animation files so that’s a treat.
    Oh and for a bit of fun in the mod manager codes you could restore the stomp bounce and drop dash to make it truly feel like you’re playing as Frontiers Sonic, you could also disable the chaos control teleport BUUUUUUUUT as you should know it’s a little broken since it effectively disables the Doom Blast (though I’m pretty sure you can get through every level and boss with it… even if the final boss will take forever)
    Also I’m sorry but I do not have the energy to explain how HedgeArcPack works to those read who don’t know, Best I can do is recommend you watch one of LightningWyverns Frontiers modding tutorials as they do a pretty good job explaining
    Overall I hope this was useful to anyone that enjoys modding and I hope it is useful to you Dolphin :)

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +6

    As much as I love metal overlord, I think metal sonic Kai works so well because of his red color scheme. Not only is it very intimidating, but it gives a good visual contrast next to the blue water. Don’t get me wrong, metal overlord in no way is subtle, but let’s just say I’m glad I don’t have to actually aim the canisters we fire at him because blue on blue is a little hard to see at high speed. The red on the other hand immediately is eye catching.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      You could say this is a positive, but I almost don't know how to feel about Kai's palette fitting with the rest of Final Fortress. It fits in a little too well. I don't dislike it, but I did appreciate the Blue Kai form as well.
      Red is really cool for intimidation reasons, the red lens flare and just looking like a different hulking beast than normal Overlord.

  • @Thorax7x686
    @Thorax7x686 16 днів тому +2

    Metal Overlord Kai
    An old boss from knuckles chaotix 1995
    .
    Fun fact Kai means improvement in Japanese

  • @bagelgod946
    @bagelgod946 17 днів тому +9

    I hope we get concept art or something for metal sonic Kai. It’s such a werid design for metal sonic and I wanna know there thought process when making it.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +5

      I've actually seen shockingly little about Knuckles' Chaotix online in general despite it having a lot of staying power in modern stuff. I'm curious how they went about making essentially a 5th classic era game while using an entirely different cast of characters.

  • @Omega1313-7
    @Omega1313-7 6 днів тому

    Oh just seeing the time stop being surrounded by Mephlies would be perfect with the chaos blast attack.

  • @F0nnmcguy8
    @F0nnmcguy8 17 днів тому +3

    7:08 this goes hard ngl

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      Ayyy, you're the 2nd person to point this out! Ty, I love trying to get unique angles especially in fights. I love adding a cinematic flare to these videos.

  • @birdofterror6628
    @birdofterror6628 8 днів тому

    "I love all of these Mephiles lines with this voice changer!"
    >Talks over every line so we can't hear it

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  8 днів тому

      Factually this didn't happen! I let multiple of his lines play.

  • @UltraBeastMode01
    @UltraBeastMode01 16 днів тому +1

    4:48 I want them to bring back metal sonic Kai somehow. Even in the smallest reference in idw or something. I like how Metal Kai is Red. Almost more representative of Eggman's colours, as if Eggman wanted to project himself and his character onto metal.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  16 днів тому

      His last reference was Mania (albeit blue) but he'd be gorgeously scary in a 3D game. In general I'd love to see stuff from the Classic artstyle get translated to one of the mainline modern games.

  • @taxisalad
    @taxisalad 12 днів тому

    I was gonna bring up the fact the Amiga TTS is likely used for MSK because of Sonic CD, but others already brought it up, so instead I wanna bring up something else:
    With Sonic Team throwing references to past things both liked and disliked, imagine if they made a sort of modern iteration of Chomps (probably by a different name) but use that as both an opportunity to give Knuckles something of his own AND as an explanation for what species the Biolizard is.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  12 днів тому +1

      God, that sounds like a connection I'd see in the Archie comics lmaooo
      Always loved how they'd connect their original stuff to the game canon

  • @sthG3rson
    @sthG3rson 16 днів тому +1

    Poor Chomps, anyway, when I saw the Shadow 3ds model and how you were talking with the Biolizard mod, I thought the mod was the 3ds biolizard 😂

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +3

    One day, I would love to learn how to make character mods.
    First things first I need to learn how to install and use mods, but then, after that, I would love to learn how to use blender to make/import models and then put them into the game.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      It's actually easier than you think imo! There's a new Hedgemodding Wiki, the Hedgemodding server and plenty of resources and there's tutorials on @LightningWyvern3218 's channel. I used the character importing video to make my Knuckles the Dread mod: gamebanana.com/mods/488594

    • @comicfan1324
      @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +3

      @@DolphynsDeck
      Thanks. I’ll definitely look into at least giving this a try at some point. I guess my biggest dread has always been “what if I accidentally ruin the game by messing with the files?” But I think one day I will take the leap. Especially since I have console versions of games like sonic frontiers so worst case scenario if I deleted something essential, I could always just reinstall the game and I have a completed file on my PS5

    • @comicfan1324
      @comicfan1324 17 днів тому +1

      @@DolphynsDeck
      Of course first things first I’m gonna have to purchase frontiers and shadow generations on PC, but I’m sure I can find a time when they’re on sale or just save up

  • @HLKforever1
    @HLKforever1 17 днів тому

    I really feel that starting connection with sonic underground. The show is heavily underrated and actually holds quite a bit of information that’s connected to the comics.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому

      Yooo it feels cool for you to point that out specifically! I may not love Underground but I think it has so many interesting interpretations of Sonic. I always enjoy seeing people mod in Sonia & Manik. Even Archie referenced them a few times.

  • @Daydreamingthrumath
    @Daydreamingthrumath 15 днів тому +1

    BABE WAKE UP DOLPHYNS DECK IS AT 20K

  • @lightningboy7099
    @lightningboy7099 15 днів тому

    I would love for Sega to include a shop for future Sonic games where we can get purchase outfits from the mobile games and older Sonic games

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  15 днів тому

      Maybe CrossWorlds will do something like this 🤞 the mobile version of Sonic Racing has alt costumes

  • @Zeigarian
    @Zeigarian 17 днів тому

    that mephiles mod goes so hard

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому

      Finally some love for my boy ✋ 🔥

  • @Burger_King_Official
    @Burger_King_Official 17 днів тому +1

    4:27 funny metal kai man 😜

  • @Naoki-wk1in
    @Naoki-wk1in 10 днів тому

    it would be so cool if we had a sonic x biolizard mod with four actual legs and everything

  • @Browhatisyoudoing
    @Browhatisyoudoing 17 днів тому +2

    After seeing neo metal Kai a thought occurred to me
    Do you think for sonic movie 4 if there a giant metal sonic climax, will they use metal sonic Kai or metal overlord?

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +2

      I'm not even sure Metal Sonic will be *the* antagonist of Sonic 4. I feel someone might be pulling the strings behind him.
      If they do though I don't think we'd see Kai. Probably Overlord at most but considering we didn't get Chaos or a proper Biolizard it might scare younger viewers lol
      Ian used Kai a few times in Archie so I could see him returning in IDW or the games if Sega starts allowing Classic stuff in Modern.

  • @colorred2363
    @colorred2363 17 днів тому +2

    Yo 20k subs! We keep winning🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +2

      It feels unreal ngl, I'm grateful that my long-winded commentary is entertaining lol

    • @Ivan210bluboi
      @Ivan210bluboi 17 днів тому +1

      Real 🗣🔥

  • @jacobruby2237
    @jacobruby2237 17 днів тому

    Hopefully Chronicles models for characters possibly happens, heh. Can you even mod unplayable characters like Big in Shadow's game?

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      Yup! In my Christmas video there were costumes for all the NPCs.

    • @jacobruby2237
      @jacobruby2237 17 днів тому

      Just saw it, pretty nifty. Only people I can think of that won't get Chronicles models in base game is Metal Sonic, the Chaotix Blaze, Silver, and classic Eggman. Also I found a Frontiers mod that has Sonic's Chronicles model, so that was neat too.

  • @DialingDock2
    @DialingDock2 13 днів тому

    7:09
    This goes hard
    Take a screenshot

  • @insanityboo
    @insanityboo 17 днів тому +1

    Is that free roam camera a mod and if so what is it because I so need that!!!

  • @AlvinPlayz997
    @AlvinPlayz997 17 днів тому +1

    Hey Dolphin I've got a question. Around the start of the video, you mentioned that the Movie Skin is now OFFICIALLY playable in the regular stages. My question is, is this just an update or do I have to do something else because on Switch(the only platform I have to play SxS Gens) the latest version is 1.10.

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +1

      I just said they officially put the Movie Skin in the game. I used a modded piece of gameplay showing him in the Ark because it looked cool. Sorry man

    • @AlvinPlayz997
      @AlvinPlayz997 17 днів тому

      @DolphynsDeck oh it's ok. Sorry for the inconvenience

  • @alvinT27A
    @alvinT27A 16 днів тому

    1:07 THEY ADDED THE MOVIE SHADOW SKIN OFFICIALLY?!?!?!

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  15 днів тому +2

      I mean. That's the Movie Pack yeah

    • @alvinT27A
      @alvinT27A 15 днів тому

      @DolphynsDeck i meant u could play him in the normal game

    • @-hamburgerman-
      @-hamburgerman- 15 днів тому

      ​​@@alvinT27A yes you can play as him in any level just find it in the DLC configuration

  • @soundwavetheminiconcarrier
    @soundwavetheminiconcarrier 16 днів тому

    I hope someone makes a skin mod based off Dark Beginnings

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  16 днів тому +1

      Considering there's cel shaded Sonic X mods in Frontiers I'd say this is very possible

  • @powerupkids4505
    @powerupkids4505 14 днів тому

    Pokémon Skin Ideas for Shadow: Mewtwo and Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament (Both Shadow and Mewtwo being Ultimate Life Forms) and Incineroar (Both Shadow and Incineroar have the same Color Scheme and both have Tragic Backstories.)

  • @jaredzloyd1828
    @jaredzloyd1828 16 днів тому

    Chomps is the biolizard before bio

  • @Charizardslash
    @Charizardslash 17 днів тому

    weren't oni mephiles and warrior shadow released back to back in speed battle and dash

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому

      Typically most content in Forces also releases in Dash :)

    • @Charizardslash
      @Charizardslash 16 днів тому

      @DolphynsDeck yeah I know I was just saying oni memphis and warrior shadow released right after each other in both games

  • @shadow74732
    @shadow74732 15 днів тому

    What binds do you use for chaos speer and chaos control? And do you have boost on r2? I cant decide which binds i should use 😬

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  15 днів тому

      Boost R2
      Spear L2
      Chaos Control Y/Triangle

  • @Hyperspeed-n3p
    @Hyperspeed-n3p 17 днів тому

    Amazing

  • @kachowboo400
    @kachowboo400 17 днів тому

  • @tigersoul6171
    @tigersoul6171 16 днів тому

    Don’t know why but this game is really too easy

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  16 днів тому

      Most modern Sonic games are. That's why I like The Final Horizon :)
      Hard Mode in this game could've been better but it's good at first.

  • @nazomius7033
    @nazomius7033 17 днів тому +1

    Aka the same bosses

    • @DolphynsDeck
      @DolphynsDeck  17 днів тому +2

      It's not if you have 🌈 imagination 🌈

  • @HoshMyTots
    @HoshMyTots 17 днів тому +2

    first