If Batman Was Charged For His Crimes

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  • @miguelcarunchod.1493
    @miguelcarunchod.1493 Рік тому +521

    You forgot the 2 biggest crimes:
    -Possession of a nuke hidden in a civilian area, the fusion reactor was built by Wayne enterprises and he was well aware of the dangers and he deliberately hide it from the public and the army...
    -Possession of many unregistered military grade tanks, which were taken by the league of shadows and used to take the city.
    Batman pretty much created the uprising by himself.

    • @boredgunner
      @boredgunner Рік тому +13

      Those aren't tanks but yeah

    • @TheIrishLoaf
      @TheIrishLoaf Рік тому +16

      Remember Lucius Fox telling him not to go the full ORWELL on Gotham's residence?

    • @cybertruck2008
      @cybertruck2008 Рік тому +13

      You could classify the batmobile as a tank because it is armour and has weaponry as a tank@@boredgunner

    • @boredgunner
      @boredgunner Рік тому

      @@cybertruck2008 A tank is a lot more than that, otherwise even a Humvee is a tank.

    • @miguelcarunchod.1493
      @miguelcarunchod.1493 Рік тому +16

      "Tank" is any moving vehicle designed specifically to Withstand enemy fire while moving.
      The batmobile "Tumbler" was armored but it was mainly designed to jump huge gaps for quick "bridge making" for the army.
      It is not a military grade tank but it is a civilian grade tank. And for some reason it has a rotating cannon on its top, with high explosive capability.

  • @Zygothknightlord
    @Zygothknightlord Рік тому +822

    Feel weird to see a superhero being charged for his crimes. But I agree that Batman did some illegal things.

    • @eta_carithebrightlord3396
      @eta_carithebrightlord3396 Рік тому +145

      well vigilantism is a crime

    • @TheBision23
      @TheBision23 Рік тому +51

      Illegal things to stop the bad guys he shouldn’t be charged with anything

    • @eta_carithebrightlord3396
      @eta_carithebrightlord3396 Рік тому +86

      @@TheBision23 If he was actually put to trial, most juries would probably be on his side tbf.

    • @laphonz
      @laphonz Рік тому +12

      @@eta_carithebrightlord3396nah Batman would have life in prison lol

    • @kriszack8374
      @kriszack8374 Рік тому

      He literally saved the city from a nuke! They even made a statue in his honour.@@laphonz

  • @dharshunanand8369
    @dharshunanand8369 Рік тому +112

    Everybody gangsta until *if Alfred pennyworth was charged for his crimes* video gets uploaded

    • @miguelcarunchod.1493
      @miguelcarunchod.1493 Рік тому +24

      Pretty much: "Accesory" to all batman crimes.

    • @watevr4evr
      @watevr4evr Рік тому +2

      Lmaaao waiting for it

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Рік тому +1

      @@miguelcarunchod.1493not if he didn’t know ahead of time what he would be doing…he has plausible deniability in his favor

    • @DvznClipz
      @DvznClipz 5 місяців тому

      Bruce: “ima tell them it was all your idea” *Talking to Alfred*

  • @SheldonAdama17
    @SheldonAdama17 Рік тому +77

    Judge: Do you have a defense?
    Batman: I’M BATMAN!
    Judge: Understood, you’re free to go, have a nice day.

  • @ivanhunter6492
    @ivanhunter6492 Рік тому +53

    Reporter: How did you get out of prison?
    Batman: I built this prison

    • @Yeycee
      @Yeycee 9 місяців тому +1

      nah, he bought it

  • @Krazy6ix
    @Krazy6ix Рік тому +544

    He'd just buy the jail hes going to be in.

    • @KINGZZPVP_YT
      @KINGZZPVP_YT Рік тому +26

      first, and fr.

    • @3410glenn
      @3410glenn Рік тому +41

      Definitely can see a Wayne corrections lmao

    • @Yashiro205
      @Yashiro205 Рік тому +28

      Before that, he gonna buy the courthouse

    • @darlalathan6143
      @darlalathan6143 Рік тому

      It works for druglords!

    • @jonathansayah9506
      @jonathansayah9506 Рік тому +19

      I know you're joking. But at some point you'd think he actually would buy a jail. Then make it so that the prison is hard for his supervillains to escape. Arkham Asylum and Blackgate were hardly doing shit.

  • @KINGZZPVP_YT
    @KINGZZPVP_YT Рік тому +70

    "Batman, you are currently charged with-"
    "I'm Batman."
    "Nevermind, you're free to go."

  • @300thNPC
    @300thNPC Рік тому +17

    The triumphant Batman music abruptly stopped by the "17x Battery: 8.5 Years In Prison" made me cry laughing 😂😂

  • @wayne30-f7h
    @wayne30-f7h Рік тому +804

    If John wick was charged for his crimes

  • @James-sl7zn
    @James-sl7zn Рік тому +86

    "We're all criminals, Clark. The only difference is that you have a boss."

  • @TheIrishLoaf
    @TheIrishLoaf Рік тому +125

    Batman was only supposed to be temporary. Harvey Dent (Gotham's White Knight) was the district attorney Wayne intended to replace Batman as the "face" of crime-fighting justice because Wayne understood that vigilantism was not right.

    • @Ayyothatsbrandogaming
      @Ayyothatsbrandogaming Рік тому +18

      Well that and Bruce wanted to be happy with Rachel.. til Joker.. yk

    • @bigmike3007
      @bigmike3007 Рік тому +6

      Nah he just wanted to spoon Rachel that’s it and he was jealous of Harvey because he hid behind his lil mask acting like a tough guy with all his rich guy armor and everything lol

  • @fillerchannel7136
    @fillerchannel7136 Рік тому +12

    Ooo, always nice to see new stuff from you!
    Renewing my request for Agent 47 from the Hitman games.

  • @BruceWayne-vk6dw
    @BruceWayne-vk6dw Рік тому +108

    Superman:How did you get out of the prison? Batman:I bought the prison.

    • @alexpena4091
      @alexpena4091 Рік тому +10

      I feel that would be the case once he got his one phone call

    • @markjordan5478
      @markjordan5478 Рік тому +8

      Crazy thing is joker would break batman out 😂😂

    • @watevr4evr
      @watevr4evr Рік тому

      Lol seeing as how apparently us prisons are privatized... wouldn't put it past possibility

    • @dylantennant6594
      @dylantennant6594 Рік тому +2

      So the Escobar method.

  • @2ricky
    @2ricky Рік тому +83

    2 minutes in and Batman has already earned himself a life sentence in prison 😂😂😂😂

  • @Gush27
    @Gush27 Рік тому +6

    Something tells me hacking into 7 million phones with full image and volume would be a lot more than 5 years in prison lol

    • @TheDarkSideOfIndustry
      @TheDarkSideOfIndustry 7 місяців тому +1

      I think it's because he was doing it to save people. If it was any ordinary criminal they would get much longer

  • @adamsjay212
    @adamsjay212 Рік тому +5

    “WHERE ARE YOU?!”
    “Here.”
    “AHH!!”

  • @faminhaariha2656
    @faminhaariha2656 Рік тому +58

    "How did u get out of prison?"
    - I bought the prison
    "How did u avoid paying charges"
    - I bought the charges
    ..... Very Bruce wayne thing to do😎

    • @RobHorrorLive
      @RobHorrorLive 8 місяців тому +1

      The government owns the prison. He wouldn't be able to buy it.

    • @jeriesawwad6306
      @jeriesawwad6306 7 місяців тому

      He can simply just buy the government​@@RobHorrorLive

    • @mojoglojo23
      @mojoglojo23 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RobHorrorLivethe US has a ton of private owned for-profit prisons, so Bruce could buy the prison he’s going to

    • @RobHorrorLive
      @RobHorrorLive 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mojoglojo23 then he would go to a different prison, and the one he bought would be confiscated by the government. Even if you buy a prison, you can still become a prisoner.

  • @veljkopavlovic607
    @veljkopavlovic607 Рік тому +11

    In court room: What's your defense ?
    I'm Batmen
    Not guilty

  • @Cheez1000
    @Cheez1000 Рік тому +132

    And not one murder charge. That's what really matters.

    • @maskedmarvyl4774
      @maskedmarvyl4774 7 місяців тому +5

      How many Robins died under his care?

    • @PierceKimbrow
      @PierceKimbrow 7 місяців тому +6

      Bro he killed two face

    • @no_signal259
      @no_signal259 7 місяців тому +12

      ​@@PierceKimbrow Self defense

    • @itscjuun93
      @itscjuun93 5 місяців тому

      4:35 there is no way nobody died there

  • @Daboiieli
    @Daboiieli 11 місяців тому +6

    Batman wants to stop crime but low key does it himself

  • @brandon_crow1291
    @brandon_crow1291 Рік тому +114

    I feel like some of those situations of "battery and false imprisonment" are kinda fair though. Batman did know there were crimes being comitted and in terms of reasonable force they were armed pretty heavily. Like to the point where use of lethal force would have been fair if Batman killed. Also there were points where Batman was technically working with/for the cops.

    • @Mangaka_Library
      @Mangaka_Library Рік тому

      Cops still considered it Vigilantism..
      Although Bruce Gave Them The rightful Evidence to perform a arrest on The suspect...
      But can't even trust Gotham cops, They can be brought and even be corrupt at times like Branden
      (A character in Batman: Year One)

    • @harley4230
      @harley4230 Рік тому +10

      Yeah some of them were fair enough. On the other hand though, he wasn't charged with multiple attempted murders or something in the same vein as he probably would be since he had no way of knowing some criminals as well as some police officers would survive what he did to them.

    • @orangenostril
      @orangenostril Рік тому +1

      ​@@harley4230Within the context of the story, he knew it wouldn't be lethal or he wouldn't have done it

    • @caseymetcalfe7191
      @caseymetcalfe7191 Рік тому +5

      Batman is more or less an unofficial police asset/consultant, especially in more recent films. This doesn’t exempt him completely from criminal charges (when he intimidates witnesses, for example), but as far as I understand it does allow him to be more confrontational under the law than an average Joe off the street. Most of the people he beats up are in the process of committing crimes and armed with weapons, and he usually only uses the force required to take them down.

  • @michaelhoosein1650
    @michaelhoosein1650 3 місяці тому +1

    That’s absolutely sick 💯 3:22

  • @eightnickel1513
    @eightnickel1513 Рік тому +32

    Imagine how much longer Batfleck would’ve gotten if he was charged with crimes

    • @watevr4evr
      @watevr4evr Рік тому +5

      Ooo i want that one next lol

  • @dethbucketghostparanormalg5042
    @dethbucketghostparanormalg5042 Рік тому +80

    If John "Jigsaw" Kramer was charged for his crimes!

    • @owaine-changaming
      @owaine-changaming Рік тому +16

      Oh god there would be so many kidnapping charges that’s like 86 counts of kidnapping

    • @Austinpuppet
      @Austinpuppet Рік тому +6

      Why not do Leatherface who's a crazy killer

    • @etano1701
      @etano1701 Рік тому +3

      @@owaine-changamingor bane because he was about to millions with an atomic bomb

    • @SirDistic
      @SirDistic Рік тому +2

      @@owaine-changamingYou can't charge him for all the kidnapping that other people did after he died in 3. Before, then yes. Also torture, false imprisonment, drugging, etc.

    • @shane7778
      @shane7778 Рік тому +4

      @@SirDistictechnically you can since in saw 7 he is still the one pulling the strings. Only ones you can’t charge him for are jigsaw and spiral

  • @kevinsnewhorizon
    @kevinsnewhorizon Рік тому +6

    Batman: I’m whatever Gotham needs me to be.
    The Cinema Cop: Soooo a criminal?

  • @-_Pluto-the-planet_-
    @-_Pluto-the-planet_- Рік тому +13

    So no one is gonna look at how many times he risked his life to save thousands of people and just charge him for all the crimies

    • @orangenostril
      @orangenostril Рік тому +5

      Emphasis on the _if_ batman was charged

    • @recitador
      @recitador Рік тому +4

      what about all the times he blew up half the city and did major property damage to both city and personal assets just so he could take a shortcut or two or evade the police

  • @TI-IESTARMAN
    @TI-IESTARMAN Рік тому +42

    Batman and Tony Soprano sharing a cell is crazy 😂😂

    • @Eightsixseven23224
      @Eightsixseven23224 Рік тому +13

      The funny thing is Batman would probably be the one who put Tony in the cell in the first place

  • @PoetsAges
    @PoetsAges Рік тому +2

    You actually did it! I was beginning to wonder if you would get around to this one!

  • @lukeborne3253
    @lukeborne3253 Рік тому +7

    So Batman would get in trouble for bats helping him I would love to hear that in court

    • @wneup
      @wneup Рік тому

      animal endangerment, I guess? I dunno

  • @dvcomedy133
    @dvcomedy133 Рік тому +3

    Imagine u having to be the judge for Batman case but he saved u and ya family lives from dying

  • @cinespressotvok
    @cinespressotvok Рік тому +11

    I do feel like some of the cases of battery could fall into self-defense. And 280 grand would barely make a dent in Bruce Wayne's bank account

    • @Czajnickov
      @Czajnickov 8 місяців тому

      It actually wouldn't even make a dent, it probably wouldn't even be a scratch

  • @LegoBatmanTheVideogameVideos
    @LegoBatmanTheVideogameVideos 6 місяців тому +2

    We need this again, but for the Arkham Games.

  • @kapitanmuka
    @kapitanmuka Рік тому +29

    If Anton Chigurh was charged for his crimes

  • @UnnecessaryAlbanian
    @UnnecessaryAlbanian Рік тому +4

    Just protecting Gotham city

  • @BautiMasterGamer
    @BautiMasterGamer Рік тому +6

    If Dominic Toretto was charged for his crimes.

  • @StrategicLemon
    @StrategicLemon Рік тому +1

    I literally busted out laughing from the first burglary charge

  • @jessicapinkman-hd4bw
    @jessicapinkman-hd4bw Рік тому +4

    his only crime is continuing to let the joker live

  • @Percy_P
    @Percy_P Рік тому +2

    Dam Batman out here wildin 😂

  • @MistaKliq
    @MistaKliq Рік тому +1

    Just tuned into your channel, I love it, keep it up

  • @JAXsolochannel
    @JAXsolochannel Рік тому +9

    Wouldn’t kidnapping Lau be considered reckless endangerment? I mean Lau could’ve slipped out of Batman’s grasp and fell to his death.

    • @Mangaka_Library
      @Mangaka_Library Рік тому

      Legal Eagle has done something on this..
      (A Lawyer on UA-cam)
      Batman would be charged for kidnapping yes, but reckless endangerment is putting others in harms way without thought..
      So batman was charged with Kidnapping and something that legal eagle called "The Forbidden Fruit Crime" where batman has performed a Un-warrented arrest, but he gave the Right evidence to The police to Question Lau's actions..

    • @Dctctx
      @Dctctx Рік тому

      That’s not what reckless endangerment is

  • @RaveQuicksilverStudios
    @RaveQuicksilverStudios 11 місяців тому +2

    I mean yeah Batman is a criminal ‘technically’ but he did it for the right reason(s) and for that he’s a hero just not your typical hero. A dark knight if you will.

  • @heintz256
    @heintz256 Рік тому +2

    There was no reason for him to smash through the toll booth thing at all lol.

  • @gibsy4843
    @gibsy4843 Рік тому +1

    Funniest part has to be destroying a train being self defense 😂 fair enough

  • @mikegamerofsparta
    @mikegamerofsparta Рік тому +6

    I’m sure Bruce can pay that 280,250 fine no problem he can afford it.

  • @Ninnerd
    @Ninnerd 7 місяців тому

    1:47 I'm Batman! *Headbutt* hehehe 😂😂

  • @instantfailure3810
    @instantfailure3810 Рік тому +4

    Bender from Futurama would be cool, but probably difficult since he has done so many crimes and some of his crimes happened in space (which is international waters i think)

  • @dylantennant6594
    @dylantennant6594 Рік тому +5

    Two things
    One you forgot the scene of Bruce preparing to shoot Joe Chill. Even if he didn’t pull the trigger in the end, that’s still conspiracy to commit murder.
    Also I’m not sure, I know ownership of a gun is legal in New Jersey, but I would guess bring it into a court house would also be an additional felony.

    • @gabrielelatorre22
      @gabrielelatorre22 Рік тому

      Vabbè ma se non ha fatto nulla, poco importa

    • @dylantennant6594
      @dylantennant6594 Рік тому

      @@gabrielelatorre22 Bull shit. First, I checked, bringing a gun into a public space such as a courthouse is strictly against the law in New Jersey.
      And conspiracy to commit a crime, even if the crime is not carried out, is still a crime.

    • @gabrielelatorre22
      @gabrielelatorre22 Рік тому

      @@dylantennant6594 With all the things he's done, who the fuck cares about that? In the end he didn't do anything anymore, so bye. You don't go to prison just for thinking about killing, you go there when you do it

  • @RebelRockstar919
    @RebelRockstar919 Рік тому

    You sir, have earned yourself a subscriber . Well done 👏

  • @Lor_Kreny
    @Lor_Kreny Рік тому

    You forgot a BUTTLOAD of “destruction of property” 😂😂😂😂

  • @theultimatehuman
    @theultimatehuman Рік тому +2

    Now I see why he faked his own death in a nuclear blast

  • @huseyin2093
    @huseyin2093 Рік тому +1

    fact that jokers sentencing video is 5 minutes and this is 11 minutes

  • @emmashafer4893
    @emmashafer4893 Рік тому +8

    Nice video! But Talia's father is Liam Neeson's character, since he is the real Ra's Al Ghul.

  • @-THE_META
    @-THE_META Рік тому +5

    If Light Yagami were charged for his crimes.

  • @copyangelstopmotion6103
    @copyangelstopmotion6103 Рік тому +3

    To be fair if batman was actually changed for is crimes he'd need saul Goodman

  • @etano1701
    @etano1701 Рік тому +4

    Imagine charging batman for his crimes💀

  • @williamj.dovejr.8613
    @williamj.dovejr.8613 Рік тому +1

    Awesome! Thanks!

  • @danthemancushecan
    @danthemancushecan Рік тому +8

    So, on another UA-camr's channel (he is a lawyer but I can't remember his name), he said when Batman hacked all the phones in Gotham, he committed more crimes in that one instance than the Joker did. I believe the reasoning was due to the number of phones Batman hacked which was a few million.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Рік тому

      in total, but they would have to prove it…extremely doubtful he gets consecutive sentences for that due to violating his 8th Amendment rights, especially for something that didn’t actually hurt anyone except terrorists hurting the city

  • @jasonmarin8187
    @jasonmarin8187 Рік тому +2

    The first one should have been arson and destruction of private property.

  • @XanthosAcanthus
    @XanthosAcanthus Рік тому +5

    Does it really count as battery if they are shooting at you?

  • @rahim9nine
    @rahim9nine Рік тому +1

    Do if netanyahu was charged for his crimes….

  • @BeatRoot14
    @BeatRoot14 Рік тому +2

    what about use of an unlicensed vehicle on public roads?

  • @totalgamers602
    @totalgamers602 Рік тому +2

    Batman would roughly be looking at 161 years in prison

  • @benhulme2863
    @benhulme2863 Рік тому

    If I’m wanted for watching a movie then I’m guilty as charged. 🎉 😂 nuff said.

  • @rexviperfan
    @rexviperfan Рік тому +3

    Hmm, also driving his vehicle which is most probably not street legal.

  • @Laufield
    @Laufield Рік тому +2

    I don’t think so. The Batman can’t go to prison because he was a hero

  • @Ron_Keffer
    @Ron_Keffer 7 місяців тому +1

    I think the fine is pointless, He can afford it. Plus he can get a good lawyer for reduced prison sentence. I think the most they can get out of him is some form of vigilante justice.

    • @JKBDTS
      @JKBDTS 4 місяці тому

      So what that he can afford it? I don't get it.
      Also it's the minimum sentence

  • @markflavell5782
    @markflavell5782 3 місяці тому +1

    Batman charged with bat tery lol

  • @liamdacre1818
    @liamdacre1818 7 місяців тому

    He’s called the dark knight for a reason. He works outside the law as a vigilante

  • @matejpetrovic7377
    @matejpetrovic7377 Рік тому

    Yooo, I wanted to see Batman on this channel!

  • @CrossriderBankai23
    @CrossriderBankai23 Рік тому +2

    You should do Superman from Man of Steel
    💀 The amount of destruction and deaths

  • @setzer1023
    @setzer1023 Рік тому +2

    next case if HBO Oz prison officers request

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Рік тому +1

    Just subscribed to this channel

  • @darlalathan6143
    @darlalathan6143 Рік тому

    "Aggravated arson?!" Who knew you could aggravate that??

  • @jagersmash849
    @jagersmash849 Рік тому

    😂😂 the combo counter on the side

  • @BlackMale1st
    @BlackMale1st Рік тому +2

    I don’t think a jury would convict him. He’d be let off

    • @klaushassen3954
      @klaushassen3954 Рік тому

      Not with the illegal 1984 mass surveillance no way that they would let it slide remember how Americans reacted to Watergate and the NSA

  • @PhamBoy91
    @PhamBoy91 Рік тому +2

    He can be charged all day long but I promise you won't catch him😂😂

  • @phusikinema5020
    @phusikinema5020 Рік тому +2

    I want a "If V (from V for Vendetta) Was Charged For His Crimes" !

    • @abramsullivan7764
      @abramsullivan7764 Рік тому +2

      Well V would be in prison for the rest of his life after all the killing, and blowing up Landon landmarks.

  • @SaiyaW
    @SaiyaW Рік тому +4

    Now real questions, do you think based on circumstances provided by the movies, how likely do you think the cops would be to accept his help and secondly would he be offered bail?

  • @9.teen.87
    @9.teen.87 Рік тому

    Bruce Wayne : 6 months probation & a charitable contribution

  • @quaderjohnson5061
    @quaderjohnson5061 Рік тому

    Bro has an unlimited jail sentence 🤣

  • @cr9890
    @cr9890 Рік тому +2

    you guys are joking right lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @PartyNearTheDoorKBR
    @PartyNearTheDoorKBR Рік тому +2

    I see why the cops want Batman so bad

  • @2laughmma383
    @2laughmma383 Рік тому +2

    Can you do some character of Power

  • @martyngregory4849
    @martyngregory4849 Рік тому

    Next you should if Peter griffin was charged for his crimes lol

  • @ROJOMk
    @ROJOMk Рік тому +2

    Would like to see CJ's version of this

  • @killerkub7040
    @killerkub7040 Рік тому +4

    If Thomas Shelby was charged for his crimes.

    • @luisvillalobos6373
      @luisvillalobos6373 Рік тому

      That's a tough one considering how the law was different back then.

  • @DavidProv
    @DavidProv Рік тому

    He at least has the ability to pay the fine without breaking a sweat.

  • @HorrorMovieFan-2007
    @HorrorMovieFan-2007 Рік тому +2

    Watch Dogs If Aiden Pearce Was Charged For His Crimes

  • @WorldViewPonderance
    @WorldViewPonderance Рік тому +2

    If Thomas Shelby was charged for his crimes

  • @KUKEKAT
    @KUKEKAT Рік тому

    this criminal thought he fought for justice 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @CamConglomerate
    @CamConglomerate Рік тому +1

    John wick and Jax Teller next please!

  • @geraltofrivia1599
    @geraltofrivia1599 Рік тому

    If rose from two and a half men was charged for her crimes

  • @Angel-Dust-The-Prostitute
    @Angel-Dust-The-Prostitute 9 місяців тому

    I would love to see Batman from the 2006-2008 cartoon, "The Batman" get charged for his crimes. Some of them are pretty major. Each episode you can make a charge for trespassing.

  • @anthonybraeckman3960
    @anthonybraeckman3960 Рік тому +2

    Mr. Wayne is going away for long time and pay a fine which cause a whole hell of a lot of money.

  • @dalessandrokiko8324
    @dalessandrokiko8324 Рік тому +2

    If Cj Carl Johnson Was Charged For His Crimes

  • @rocketperson44
    @rocketperson44 Рік тому +1

    Do Jack Bauer next

  • @1Guason3
    @1Guason3 Рік тому

    Rich dude pleads guilty: 3 years sentence, freed on 1 year on good behavior.

  • @hellosirimlookingforcrackg776

    Can you do o-dog and Caine from menace 2 society next? Or some of the characters from the snowfal series?

  • @jessereddick719
    @jessereddick719 Рік тому +2

    Funny how they put Batman on this list. Should also do bane. You did both Batman and joker.

  • @mxt217
    @mxt217 Рік тому +3

    only illegal if you get caught