Using Teflon Tape the CORRECT Way

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 23 лис 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 116

  • @elizabethguerra2379
    @elizabethguerra2379 2 роки тому +15

    Aposolutly correct! 3 rotations of teflon, thin layer of pipe dope, never had a leak. Thank you Roger for educating people. Love your channel.

  • @Koh-Wei-Jian
    @Koh-Wei-Jian 2 роки тому +9

    I am a fire sprinkler contractor and i wrap 15 rounds of teflon on a 15mm pipe and 30 rounds for 50mm pipe, and somewhere in-between for other sizes. Threaded pipes and fittings take 3.5 turns to tighten. The application is for 200psi water.

    • @Z.the.G
      @Z.the.G 2 роки тому

      I imagine you are beveling the application of your Teflon,.
      The thing to consider is that your fitting is not all the way sunk in to and the exposed thread patter will create turbulence.
      That's one reason why it's import to tighten a gas fighting in far enough but not too far.

    • @alamedajon1453
      @alamedajon1453 Місяць тому

      way to much tape, 39 year sprinkler fitter here ( retired )

  • @JerryWick
    @JerryWick 2 роки тому +2

    Oil field experience, most roustabouts putting together 2" flow line together used standard white tape and tru-blue. I did the same and had no leaks. Pressures sometimes exceeded 2-3000psi.
    Now working on hydraulic systems of all types and sizes regularly, straight Blue Monster with no dope. 15000psi max. No leaks.
    I think as long as you put something on pipe threads and do it properly like wrapping the tape in the right direction; it will work

  • @BlairScouten
    @BlairScouten 2 роки тому +2

    Pool guy checking in! I teach this 101 all the time! The majority of fittings I see are PVC. Mostly 1.5’ sometimes 2”. For my purposes, I tend to use clear silicone rather than pipe dope. WAY easier to clean off again if you have to take things apart! 😉 I also use just the regular white teflon. Nothing fancy.
    As far as how I learned, I picked it up initially by watching the senior guy doing fittings and then gave it a try myself. That was back in 2003. Got educated formally on this stuff in apprenticeship school in 2004.
    Now I’m the senior guy on the job showing the rookies how it’s done!

  • @lyster1ne681
    @lyster1ne681 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a welder by trade, so most of my joints are hot and sparky, but of course lots of times there’s threaded systems included with the weldments, often 1-3 inch pipe. I typically use 5 - 8 wraps of the blue monster and a small bead of dope, and it seals right up. That said, my first company was so damn cheap I often had to make do with either tape or dope, not both. For tape only jobs I would add 2 or 3 extra wraps, and crank down as hard as I could with the wrench. For dope only I just used a little extra, didn’t tighten down too hard, and then wiped a small amount around the joint after it was assembled, works like a charm.

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou 2 роки тому +2

    I do it like you do. I use the thicker tape on higher pressures, but like you said the normal no frills stuff usually works just as well with a few more wraps.

  • @eggmanfryer
    @eggmanfryer 2 роки тому +1

    I just use tape on threaded joints. I use Teflon paste on compression fitting because it lubricates the ferrule and it tightens up smother.

  • @AKITM
    @AKITM 2 роки тому +17

    One plumber I worked with taught me to use tape and dope for water and gas fittings. Another told me to use tape for water and dope for gas. I worked with yet another plumber and he used both tape and dope for water fittings... and he has about 30 years experience.

    • @SaratogaJerry
      @SaratogaJerry 2 роки тому +1

      In another industry, I had a boss that liked to use the power of "and" which seemed to apply to everything! 🙂

    • @countrifried
      @countrifried 2 роки тому +4

      Tape and dope on water. Dope only, for gas. That’s how I was taught.

    • @Kidney7661
      @Kidney7661 2 роки тому

      I was told to never use Teflon on gas, only use dope. But I’m not a plumber, so I’m not sure.

    • @Z.the.G
      @Z.the.G 2 роки тому

      This explains why as a service plumber I constantly find leaks on these all over Austin, I didn't understand why someone wouldn't use Teflon aswell. Usually It would be for quicker installation and is running at low psi. I was taught by the 332 Rmp of Texas for American Plumbing. He would constantly quote, "do gas right crank it tight"
      We would have to set our gas tests at 100 psi minimum. I understand that is outlandish but as a man of craftsmanship it felt good to put this into someone's home.

    • @hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987
      @hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987 2 роки тому

      I only use tape. White for water and yellow for gas and only use dope in a pinch and my dad is the opposite. Neither of us have ever had a problem with either

  • @alexs-zq6ni
    @alexs-zq6ni 2 роки тому +1

    I do it with regular teflon tape about three times around for the work I do.
    I like the sound of your method. I like doing the parallel to your method with electrical tape and liquid electrical tape to insulate splices.

  • @ryuranzou
    @ryuranzou 2 роки тому +2

    I've only used regular blue teflon didn't even know there were other kinds. The main thing I learned was to make sure I don't put the tape on backwards and to not overtighten it. I'll remember to brush the fittings if I do end up with leaks next time and ask my boss about using pipe dope. I've heard of him using it on some projects, but have never seen it myself since he said it can be messy.

  • @safeinsound432
    @safeinsound432 2 роки тому

    Sprinkler fitter here
    Dope then tape for the side you tighten
    Just dope for tightening on the machine
    My stuff only leaks when I for get to tighten it lol 👍

  • @billygoat4591
    @billygoat4591 Рік тому +1

    Military always wants us to use yellow for natural gas, Blue Monster is used everywhere else....we have that on hand by the case. Civilian plumbers that work civil service that are retired SNCOs seem to have the best tips, methods & advice

  • @ronlovell5374
    @ronlovell5374 2 роки тому +4

    I've used just standard white Teflon for many years, but find lately have to do 8 to 10 rotations because fittings are getting sloppier and poorly cut these days, especially with lack of supplies. A few times I had to resort to dope and wicking, or pipe sealing cord for old cast iron rad fittings, because I would use a tonne of tape and still get leaks, even tried other more expensive tapes, with no luck. Guess you can't beat a classic!

    • @waytospergtherebro
      @waytospergtherebro 2 роки тому

      Maybe you shouldn't buy fittings from the same place that sold you your dictionary.

    • @ronlovell5374
      @ronlovell5374 2 роки тому +2

      @@waytospergtherebro huh, Dictionary?

  • @shawncalhoun1363
    @shawncalhoun1363 2 роки тому +3

    PTFE (Teflon) is chemically inert in and of itself, the colors are nothing but sales marketing to get you to buy more expensive products. However a lot of your local "home improvement" stores sell super cheap and super thin teflon tape. If the fitting is less than 1/4" you need 1/4" tape, up to 1" fitting needs 1/2" tape, anything larger I use 1" wide tape. In general 3-4 wraps should be able to seal any joint, as long as you wrap it the right direction, and don't cover the first thread and contaminate the system. As to applying dope, well some people like to, and it's a backup, but if you do the tape right you don't need it, but I understand people's thoughts of better safe than sorry.

  • @BarrettPlumbing
    @BarrettPlumbing 2 роки тому +4

    I use 4-5 wraps and plumbers grease for extra lubrication. It makes it so much easier to fully tighten fittings with plumbers grease compared to pipe dope

  • @galoyd2
    @galoyd2 2 роки тому +2

    I remember from one of Roger's videos he told the story of why he uses tape + pipe dope. If it works for Texas Instruments, I'm gonna trust it.

  • @williammorris3303
    @williammorris3303 2 роки тому +2

    I 100% agree with cleaning fittings, even new fittings I keep a wire brush handy, I tend to use a welders wire brush because they seem stiffer, and even with new fits there is rust spots and debris sometimes. I go above and beyond on gas because I don’t ever want to be the guy that destroys a house or god forbid kills someone with a leak

  • @badgermetal
    @badgermetal 2 роки тому +1

    I use a couple layers of blue tape and a pipe dope on the pipe we thread ourselves. Only issue sometimes is the threads can easily be set up to cut too deep on our adjustable machine. To test it I thread the fitting on dry while it's still hot without tape or dope to check if its good. 2 or 3 full rotations by hand is ideal. Any more than that and the tolerance is too big, when the pipe cools down and shinks it could leak. If the threads are from the factory I use less tape because the tolerances are always a little tighter.

  • @michaelstaley9979
    @michaelstaley9979 2 роки тому +1

    I was taught to use both the white Teflon tape and pipe dope. Thank you for sharing this video.

  • @mr.futuristicsmile5282
    @mr.futuristicsmile5282 2 роки тому +1

    big blue and t+2 are the go to!

  • @angserran
    @angserran 2 роки тому

    I bought Double Bowl Sink & Dishwasher End Outlet Waste kit made by Kenney Holdings, LLC to replace piping under sink. The bag says, "These parts are designed for a hand-tight installation. Pipe thread compound is not required." Bag doesn't mention Teflon tape at all. However, if there's a leak, I would consider using Teflon tape.

  • @thewolfman61
    @thewolfman61 2 роки тому +2

    we use antiieze on threads, tape, and more antisieze. We work with hard dirty water and dam if the pipes come apart easily when they finlly rot. Old timer also told me if u took the pipe off with a 18" pipe wrench use a 14" to put it back on and havent had a problem yet

  • @Chrominance87
    @Chrominance87 2 роки тому

    You do the same thing I do. I always feel like it's unnecessary, but I always prefer to remove any old thread tape prior to wrapping any new tape on.

  • @Mr1337sheep
    @Mr1337sheep 2 роки тому

    tape and dope all the way, I don't think it directly prevents any leaks but the ability to drive the threads on a pipe in further because of the lubrication definitely helps stop leaks

  • @Drewdayz2419
    @Drewdayz2419 2 роки тому

    And I am so glad you said that was a thread protector and not a coupling so sick of seeing them suckers used as a coupling they do not have a tapered thread do not use them as a coupling

  • @fitter5423
    @fitter5423 2 роки тому

    I’m a sprinklerfitter and when I’m doing threaded pipe I use pipe dope and tape on the threads I’m making up by hand and dope only on the side I’m pulling the fitting on with the machine. Reason for the dope only is that’s the fitting I don’t want to move on me when I using a second wrench as a hold back when I’m running screwed line pipe. Brass sprinkler heads in cast fittings I use tape and dope.

  • @quazy1328
    @quazy1328 2 роки тому

    Working on hydraulic systems that are wet(previously in use) I only use tape due to the oil and I have a thicker tape for larger pipe fittings. These days you don't normally see NPT/NPFT in hydraulic systems though.

  • @frankmccurry2083
    @frankmccurry2083 2 роки тому +1

    Roger I love ur videos I do it the same way as u do it but I don't always use pipe drop

  • @gabepart3503
    @gabepart3503 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the videos they help tremendously!

  • @monokromis
    @monokromis 2 роки тому +1

    Please consider review PPRC plumbing and try it, its so common around the world and I want to see what will you think about it 🤙🏻

  • @m1staack
    @m1staack 10 місяців тому

    Watched your video to the end great stuff my good man! Just for clarification (I’m not a plumber) your First wrap was one layer around the back end of the treads, then it looked like you kinda half wrapped the first layer while moving towards the unwrapped threads. I guess my question is are you trying to create 3-4 LAYERS of tape on all the treads, or just one full layer at the back and work it forward so that all the treads have at least on layer of tape! Thanks

  • @victorb145
    @victorb145 2 роки тому

    I just use the regular tape same way you do. I haven't used the other product you mentioned, though if I notice it and remember I will pick it up to try it. Forgive me if I don't want to use the name on social media.
    I just don't want some paranoid computer program take an action because it can't think.

  • @budgunter8950
    @budgunter8950 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video! Great Channel! Thanks for keeping things simple. I also liked the Roger Bannister reference.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  2 роки тому

      Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching brother

  • @saltyxD_YT
    @saltyxD_YT 2 роки тому +1

    Can you use locktite to seal a pipe ore glue together a PVC pipe? That were be a nice video idea. 😋

  • @jacobkindsvatter4055
    @jacobkindsvatter4055 2 роки тому

    I use both tape and dope for everything, im kind of IFFY on hookups for alluminum tie ins (gas ranges, furnaces, etc) i litterally just hand threat with no tape and dope 3 times, then i tape it and dope it, then with my wrench i hand thread it by hand again until i cant then i use my wrench 2 times

  • @mrpopesalot8041
    @mrpopesalot8041 2 роки тому

    Blue monster is boss! Thanks Roger for another great video! There's a whole lot of different dopes out there as well I'd love to see a video going into depth about those! I like the yellow rectorseal slow dry with blue monster, I've had exceptionally good luck with that combo.

  • @johnrundhaug4194
    @johnrundhaug4194 2 роки тому

    Hey, I am a fire sprinkler fitter apprentice. In our trade it is common to dope first and cover all of the threads to make in, and use three wraps of 3/4 teflon and if the threads are correct you won't have a leak. It is rare, but some people dope then tape. Nobody knows the answer in our entire union, it's preference. Most people that dope first say it's less of a mess when you pile the fittings. What are some thoughts?

    • @krakhare7111
      @krakhare7111 2 роки тому +1

      There are a few fitters in my company that “dope then tape”. I wasn’t trained that way, but it is less mess. And the joints don’t leak. Personal preference I guess.

    • @safeinsound432
      @safeinsound432 2 роки тому

      I'm a 669 apprentice we do the same thing. I am curious if it makes any difference

    • @ctaylor7089
      @ctaylor7089 2 роки тому

      I dope then tape and it always works well for me.

  • @DeDraconis
    @DeDraconis 2 роки тому +3

    I am un-learned. I just use 1/3-1/2 of the whole container of Teflon on the one fitting I'm trying to DIY, cross my fingers, and hope for the best. :)

  • @Rio-bx6nc
    @Rio-bx6nc Рік тому

    Can you drop link for your fitting brush
    Thanks appreciate the videos

  • @Rgb414
    @Rgb414 2 роки тому +4

    Like some one told me many years ago, there is more then one "right'" way to do something.

  • @wheelitzr2
    @wheelitzr2 2 роки тому

    Blue monster is my go to. Use 4-5 wraps and it won't leak. I will use some white dope on the blue monster tape if the temp on that fitting changes regularly.

    • @AKITM
      @AKITM 2 роки тому

      The plumber I regularly work with uses blue monster tape and blue monster dope. But one of the plumbers turned me on to Hercules Pro Dope. I found it to be less gummy compared to blue monster dope.

    • @wheelitzr2
      @wheelitzr2 2 роки тому

      @@AKITM I don't use blu monster dope, just tape.

    • @AKITM
      @AKITM 2 роки тому

      @@wheelitzr2 ahh ok. The shop I work for stocks blue monster dope and some other brands of dope that I haven't seen anyone else using. I talked the plumber I train under into trying Pro Dope cause I liked it, but he keeps using the blue monster dope... preferences.

  • @marinefoxalpha4499
    @marinefoxalpha4499 2 роки тому +2

    The only tip I can add is if it is an exposed joint, think shower head. At the end of the wraps I wrap 2ish times, 6 inches up the pipe to leave me a tail. Because after I’m done I have a tail to unwrap the excess tape with. Most expose tape will come off. Needed no but looks good.

    • @paulz9371
      @paulz9371 2 роки тому

      I just use a grey color teflon at a shower head, it usually blends in with the chrome or other finish of the fixture and call it good

  • @nickcrane1888
    @nickcrane1888 Рік тому +1

    Could you address the proper order to apply tape and dope and those who apply dope before tape?

  • @sleektoneofficial
    @sleektoneofficial 2 роки тому +1

    I use blue monster on everything water ill usually go just tape unless its underground or the inlet and outlets on water heaters gas anything over 1/2” especially 1” and up im using tape and dope

  • @Steelandbrass
    @Steelandbrass 2 роки тому

    I have a toilet that will only flush after the second flush, the first flush acts like it’s clogged but then the second flush sends water down normally. We replaced the flapper valve assuming that was the issue but it didn’t fix the problem. It only occurs after the toilet hasn’t flushed for about 10 minutes. It looks like the cleaning company we use may have accidentally let a portion of a cleaning tab fall down the hole that the flapper covers. Could this cause the problem I am experiencing or is there something else I should look at?

  • @lance16O1
    @lance16O1 2 роки тому

    Putting your thumbs close together when you tear it helps cut down on strings.

  • @jimsyhammond
    @jimsyhammond 2 роки тому +1

    Some are thicker than the standard white one too

  • @williamstewart1883
    @williamstewart1883 2 роки тому

    I do it the same way you do and always use the basic white tef

  • @freightliner18
    @freightliner18 2 роки тому +1

    What do you do when you’re screwing on an elbow, and it gets tight 180* from the direction you need it?

    • @Bezolden
      @Bezolden 2 роки тому

      Potentially more leverage is needed to get the fitting where it needs to be. Put a piece of pipe over a pipe wrench to extend the handle.

  • @disquiet3163
    @disquiet3163 2 роки тому +2

    Monster blue tape and Hercules pro-dope are my go to, always making sure I wipe off any excess to make it look like I know what I'm doing 😀

  • @macbirt56
    @macbirt56 Рік тому

    I was taught in the 1960's and I would never use more than 3 wraps. And when I was trained in the Navy on Advanced Nuclear Submarine Pneumatics and Hydraulics they would fail us if we used more than the manufacturer's suggested 1-1/2 to 2 wraps. We were told that if your threads leak after two wraps then your threads are defective. And since we were operating at upto 4500 PSI Pneumatics and 3000 PSI Hydraulics, the theory was that threads should seal without sealant, but sealant helps prevent weeping from temperature changes. Nowadays I see people using 5, 6 or 7 wraps and then adding paste sealant and I cringe. lol. But as you say, whatever works for you... BTW, I was also trained on Oxygen Generators for the air we breathed on my sub and there were NO threaded fittings for 3000 PSI Oxygen or Hydrogen. We used what they called cell seals, teflon rings with stainless rings for support. Those suckers would hold 3000 PSI 99.97% pure Hydrogen, without a leak. They did not pay me enough back then... lol.

  • @ANONYMOUSJESUS
    @ANONYMOUSJESUS 2 роки тому

    I use Blue Monster religiously, with dope on top.

  • @Drewdayz2419
    @Drewdayz2419 2 роки тому

    Also something I do , I work for atmos, I small layer of dope, than tape , than dope again on top

  • @siedliko
    @siedliko 2 роки тому +1

    I always use the white one, as the white one is superior to any other colours.

  • @VadymZakrevskyy
    @VadymZakrevskyy 2 роки тому

    Is the AC broken?
    Love your channel!

  • @williammorris3303
    @williammorris3303 2 роки тому

    I cannot tell you how often I separate joints and find the tap pushed all out of the joint. Literally1/3 of all jobs. How some people haven’t blown up some houses is beyond me

  • @ChefBoyareB
    @ChefBoyareB 2 роки тому

    Please use pipe dope on compression fittings. Same reason for tape in threads. It lubricates. Guaranteed, you'll never crush a pipe again. If you're distorting your pipe, you're doing it wrong.

  • @some0ne8
    @some0ne8 2 роки тому +1

    Next video should be how to install an AC system in the studio haha

  • @gordarmstrong4925
    @gordarmstrong4925 2 роки тому +1

    I do it however the guy next to me tells me to do it, I've had guys tell me I'm using to little Teflon, too much Teflon, too much pipe dope, not enough dope, wrong color dope, wrong color Teflon, that I should start from the bottom and work my Teflon to the end of pipe, also been told to work it end of pipe to the bottom.... in all these cases I've never had a leak..... I always use Teflon and dope, I've come to the conclusion that if you make sure your Teflon is going the right way and dope it, and thread it on right and you're in far enough in and it's tight.... you probably okay... key thing is make sure your Teflon is going the right way.... don't be that guy who puts It on backwards and wonders why there's more Teflon at your feet than in the threads...

  • @tallbrian100
    @tallbrian100 2 роки тому +9

    The biggest problem I see with threaded connections is not making them tight enough. To many weak plumbers now days.

  • @StoneysWorkshop
    @StoneysWorkshop 2 роки тому

    Next, talk about the direction to face unions!

  • @jake48396
    @jake48396 Рік тому

    I tape my Teflon at the tip of the nipple and terminate my taping up on the non threaded part and apply dope that way I can pull the excess tape off and leave an extremely clean and good looking joing

  • @danielrandolph9170
    @danielrandolph9170 2 роки тому

    Good video thanks !

  • @jamescdavis3624
    @jamescdavis3624 2 роки тому

    What about those who insist on dope tape dope. Glad to see your a tape dope guy.

    • @PeytonOver
      @PeytonOver 2 роки тому

      Im thinking tape dope tape.

  • @HiddenResolve
    @HiddenResolve 2 роки тому

    Dope Tape Dope for me. When you getting some nice cool refreshing AC up in that place?

  • @jeffery.campbell5763
    @jeffery.campbell5763 2 роки тому

    If it is a thread protector why do they only come on one end of the pipe ?

  • @freeandcriticalthinker4431
    @freeandcriticalthinker4431 3 місяці тому

    U have a great channel. But sir the back ground music makes it hard for the people like myself, to hear what you are saying over the constant distracting background noise/music.

  • @zackaryramos5085
    @zackaryramos5085 2 роки тому +1

    Another reason we need a shirt “well I don’t have leaks “

  • @TheSignatureK
    @TheSignatureK 2 роки тому

    I like using my propane torch to smoke the dope after applying it to the pipe.
    😂

  • @hitechmechanical8258
    @hitechmechanical8258 2 роки тому

    Pipe dope first to sealed the treads than tef

  • @u_t_d_s_h-1_a
    @u_t_d_s_h-1_a Рік тому

    What's the point using teflon tape -- if it is going just rumple-up, break and cannot stop leaks? Plumbers black silicone or pvc (don't know which anymore) tape ---works far more...

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  Рік тому

      If you apply it right it won't rumple up and break

  • @LiveeviL6969
    @LiveeviL6969 2 роки тому +1

    Don't ever use the "tape" that's included with some products. Toss it and use good quality tape. Now, go enjoy some A/C and cool off.

  • @tennesseetim3752
    @tennesseetim3752 2 роки тому

    if it was a thread protector it would be on both ends of the pipe. not one end

  • @zachosborne6577
    @zachosborne6577 Рік тому

    Thought all threads were just “pipe extenders” for plumbers who forget to measure twice

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 2 роки тому +2

    the pink tape promotes breast cancer awareness.

    • @ctaylor7089
      @ctaylor7089 2 роки тому

      I always thought it was for electricians

  • @raxorlp9932
    @raxorlp9932 Рік тому

    here in germany we use loctite

  • @mitchmayes5760
    @mitchmayes5760 2 роки тому

    Blue monster or the grey kind with the gladiator on it. That's good stuff too.

  • @sunshine3914
    @sunshine3914 2 роки тому +1

    Can’t get past the background noise.

  • @bennymoz3091
    @bennymoz3091 2 роки тому +1

    As a sharkbite installer...
    We never use teflon...
    😎😎😎...
    Cause sharbite never leak!!!
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @adammosher1115
    @adammosher1115 2 роки тому

    I need some help I'm looking for a bathroom sink drain without a drain stopper any suggestions

  • @sumpurnis
    @sumpurnis 2 роки тому +2

    Don't want to rain on your parade, but real men use not Teflon, but linen tow sealing.

  • @Drewdayz2419
    @Drewdayz2419 2 роки тому

    Always , always, Tape and dope on the dissimilar metal for gas, gas company rules, same metal dope only is ok , this is atmos rules

  • @RackedandStacked
    @RackedandStacked 2 роки тому

    im here early

  • @bigglilwayne7050
    @bigglilwayne7050 2 роки тому

    If only Roger would make a farewell video showing how to totally dissapear from UA-cam....